Sumter v. Drummond Transcript of Record

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February 23, 1962

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    The State of South Carolina
IN THE SUPREME COURT

APPEAL FROM SUMTER COUNTY 

H onorable J ames H ugh M cF addin

CITY OF SUMTER, Respondent, 

against

EDDIE DRUMMOND cmd HERMAN K. 
HARRIS, JR., Appellants

TRANSCRIPT OF RECORD

E rnest A. F in n ey , J r., 
Sumter, South Carolina, 

W illiam  W . B ennett, 
Florence, South Carolina, 

J enkins & P erry,
Columbia, South Carolina 

Attorneys for Appellants.

C. M. E dmunds,
Sumter, South Carolina, 

Attorney for Respondent.



P age

Statement....................................................................  1

Warrant ......................................................................  2

Transcript of Trial Proceedings ............................  4

Witnesses for the City of Sumter:

J. H. Lawson:
Direct Examination....................................  6
Cross Examination ....................................  11
Re-direct Examination ..............................  15
Ke-cross Examination................................  15

C. M. Brown:
Direct Examination....................................  16
Cross Examination ....................................  18

Witnesses for Defendants:
Herman K. Harris, J r.:

Direct Examination....................................  26
Cross Examination ....................................  31
Re-direct Examination..............................  41
Re-cross Examination................................  44

Mildred Welch:
Direct Examination....................................  45
Cross Examination ....................................  46

Order of Judge McFaddin........................................  48

Exceptions ..................................................................  ^9

Agreement ..................................................................  51

INDEX



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STATEMENT
The appellants, both of whom are Negro College 

students, were arrested on February 14, 1961 and 
charged with the common law offense of breach of 
peace. Appellants were tried before Sumter City 
Recorder Raymon Schwarz, Jr., sitting without a 
jury, on March 2, 1961. At the conclusion of all the g 
evidence, Judge Schwarz found each of the appellants 
guilty and sentenced to pay fines of One Hundred 
($100.00) Dollars each or serve thirty (30) days in 
prison. Notice of Intention to Appeal was duly served 
upon the City Recorder.

Thereafter, the matter was argued before Honor­
able James Hugh McFaddin, Resident Judge, Third 
Judicial Circuit. On February 23, 1962, Judge Mc­
Faddin issued an Order, affirming the judgment of the 
City Recorder. Notice of Intention to Appeal was 
thereupon duly served upon the City Attorney.

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City of Sumter v. Drummond et al.

AFFIDAVIT
THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA,

City  and County of S umter .

Personally came before me Raymon Schwarz, Jr. 
Recorder of the City of Sumter E. E. McIntosh who 
being duly sworn says: That he is informed and be­
lieves that at Sumter, S. C., on or about the 14th day 
of February 1961, one Eddie Drummond and Herman 
K. Harris, did enter the premises of Lawson’s Phar­
macy, in Sumter, S. C. and did sit down for service in 
said premises and did fail and refuse to leave said 
premises when ordered to do so by the owner and op­
erator Dr. J. II. Lawson and by said acts did breach the 
peace, in violation of an Ordinance of City of Sumter, 
and that deponent and others are material witness to 
prove the above allegations.

, /s /  E. E. M cI ntosh .

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 14th 
day of February, 1961.
/ s /  R aymon  S chwarz, Jr. (L. S.)

Recorder.



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WARRANT
THE STATE OP SOUTH CAROLINA,

City  and County op Sumteb .

To the Sheriff of Sumter County or to any or either of 
the Policemen of the City of Sumter.

Whereas, complaint upon oath has been made before 
me as Recorder of the City of Sumter, by E. E. Mc­
Intosh That he is informed and believes that at Sum­
ter, S. C., on or about the 14th day of February, 1961, 
one Eddie Drummond and Herman K. Harris, did 
enter the premises of Lawson’s Pharmacy, in Sumter, 
S. C. and did sit down for service in said premises 
and did fail and refuse to leave said premises when 
ordered to do so by the owner and operator Dr. J. H. 
Lawson and by said acts did breach the peace in vio­
lation of an Ordinance of City of Sumter in such cases 
made and provided.

These are therefore to authorize and command you 
to arrest the witnesses above named and Eddie Drum­
mond and Herman K. Harris and bring them before 
me at Recorder’s Court to be dealt with according to 
law.

Given under my hand and Seal this 14th day of Feb­
ruary, 1961.

/ s /  R aymon  S chwaez, J r . (L. S.)
Recorder.



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City of Sumter v. Drummond et al.

IN THE RECORDER’S COURT OP THE 
CITY OF SUMTER

The above-entitled case came on for trial before The 
Honorable Raymon Schwarz, Judge of the Recorder’s 
Court of the City of Sumter, on Thursday, March 2, 
1961, in the Recorder’s Court Room, Sumter, South 
Carolina.
Appearcmces:

For the City of Sumter: C. M. Edmunds, City At­
torney.

For the Defendants: Ernest A. Finney Jr., and Wil­
liam W. Bennett, Attorneys at Law.

PROCEEDINGS
The Court: Before we get into any of the cases that 

we are trying today, I want to make a few statements.
I know that the trial of the cases we are interested 

in today will have created a great deal of public in­
terest, but, in order that all defendants, as well as the 
City, of course, might have a fair trial, this Court in­
tends to strictly enforce the rules of the court. We 
will not have spectators standing at the rear or in 
the halls; we will not have any talking in this court­
room during the trial of the case except by those par­
ticipants in the case actually concerned with the trial 
of the case or cases. Of course, while the Press is wel­
come, as it always is in Sumter, there will be no pic­
ture-taking, any photographs taken, in this courtroom, 
as it is a direct violation, according to the rules of 
court.

The only transcript which will be taken will be that 
—other than what you might wish to take by writing 
or shorthand, or what have you—will be that which is



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taken by the official court stenographer, and there will 
be no recording device used by anyone else during 
the trial of the case, because, of course, this would 
be in conflict with the transcript, with the delegated 
authority to the court stenographer to take the official 
transcript of the case.

As it is customary in this court to have our colored 
citizens sitting to my left, our white citizens sitting 
to my right, in view of the large number of colored 
people interested in the trial of this case, I am indulg­
ing this rule to the extent of permitting the back three 
rows on the side to my right to be utilized by colored 
citizens of our community, as well as the entire side 
to the left. Should there be a trend to shift the number 
of colored spectators proportionately to the white 
spectators, the Court, of course, would reserve the 
right to restate the rule as it originally applies in this 
court.

The first cases which are to be tried today are City 
of Sumter v. Eddie Drummond and Harris K. Herman. 
These two cases will be tried jointly.

Is the City ready, Mr. Edmunds?
Mr. Edmunds: Yes, sir.
The Court: Is the defense ready?
Mr. Finney: The defense is ready, Your Honor.
The Court: The defendants in the case of City of 

Sumter v. Eddie Drummond and Harris K. Herman 
are charged with a breach of the peace.

How do they plead?
Mr. Finney: Your Honor, before entering a plea, we 

would like to make some motions.
We would like to move at this time that the warrant 

be dismissed on the grounds that the facts as set forth 
in this warrant do not, under the laws and statutes of



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the State of South Carolina or of the City of Sumter,

21 constitute the offense of breach of the peace.
The Court: The warrant in the case sets forth that 

Eddie Drummond and Harris Kardd Herman did enter 
the premises of Lawson’s Drug Store and did order 
soft drinks and, upon receiving the same, did sit down 
in a booth in said premises and did fail and refuse to 
leave said premises when ordered to do so by Dr. J. 
H. Lawson, the owner and operator of said business, 
and by said acts did breach the peace.

As I have stated in previous trials similar to this
22 trial, it is the opinion of the Court that, knowing the 

inflammatory situation, anyone who does any act which 
might tend to bring about a breach of the peace would 
be guilty of breach of the peace. The burden is on 
the City to prove the breach.

Motion denied.
Mr. Finney: We would like at this time to move for 

the amendment of the warrant on the grounds that 
there is a typographical error. It’s Herman Harris in­
stead of Harris K. Herman, 

a The Court: No objection?
Mr. Edmunds: No objection.
Mr. Finney: The defense is ready, Your Honor. The 

plea is not guilty.

Dr. .J. H . L awson, called as a witness by the City, 
being first duly sworn, was examined and testified as 
follows:

Direct Examination 
By Mr. Edmunds:
0. Dr. Lawson, I believe you are president of Law-

24 4son’s Pharmacy?
A. Yes, sir.



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Dr. J. H. L awson
Q. Do you operate Lawson’s Pharmacy yourself?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. How long have you been at that particular loca­

tion?
A. Eleven years; have been in business since 1935.
Q. On the 14th of February of this year were you at 

your store, supervising the operation?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. I believe you have a soda fountain in the store; 

is that right?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And then you have drugs and the usual things 

that a drugstore carries?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. In the front portion of the store, what do you 

have, sir?
A. When you enter the door, I have booths on each 

side of the door, and then these aisles of merchandise, 
and on the right-hand side I have a cigar case, soda 
fountain, drink case, delivery counter.

Q. Those booths, about how many tables are there; 
do you recollect?

A. There’s three on each side—no, I believe there’s 
two on one side and three on the other.

Q. Has it been your custom in past years to sell 
drugs and commodities to colored people ?

A. Yes, sir; still is.
Q. And has it been the custom for colored people 

to sit at those tables in the front that you described?
A. Never has been.
Q. Have any of them ever sat there in the eleven 

years you have operated the store?
A. Not except one time, when they sat down there 

and were arrested for doing so.



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0. That was on this occasion, or—

29 A. No, sir, one prior occasion about a year ago.
Q. And what has been your custom, what was your 

custom on the 14th of February, ’61, in regard to sell­
ing members of the colored race any soft drinks?

A. We have a room back there in which is a couch 
that holds four that they can sit on and drink them, 
or they can take them out the store. That’s been the 
custom all these years; I ’m doing it today and have 
been doing it every day, prior and since.

Q. That’s a private room, with a couch?
80 A. For the colored people.

Q. You don’t furnish that for the white race too?
A. No.
Q. And that has been the custom throughout the

years ?
A. For anyone that wanted to stay in the store and 

consume the drinks.
Q. On this occasion, on the 14th, did these two col­

ored boys come into your store, whose names are, or 
similar to, Eddie Drummond and Harris Kardd Her-

sx man?
A. Two came in there. I don’t know their names or 

anything, had never seen them before; they had never 
patronized me before, to my knowledge.

Q. And what did they do?
A. Well, the two came in the front door. These two 

out-of-town white men came in ahead of them with a 
movie camera. One came in Aisle No. 1, came in the 
front door and went down Aisle No. 1—

Q. What is Aisle No. 1, so I ’ll—
A. Over next to the fountain. The white men, they

32 were in Aisle No. 2. The other one came down Aisle 
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the wrapping counter, where he should. The man at 
the wrapping counter asked him what he could serve 
him and he said he would like to have a Coca-Cola. He 
said “Do you want a large or a small one!” He said 
he’d take a large Coke. So he ordered a large Coke in 
a paper cup, and he gave it to him.

Q. Did he pay for it!
A. He paid for it. The other one stopped at the 

soda fountain. One of the young ladies on duty there 
asked him what he wanted. He said he wanted an 
orange soda. She said “Well, you go back there where 
you see the other colored man and you’ll get service.” 
He said “ Do I have to go back there to get service!” 
She said “ You do.” So he went back there and bought 
an orange drink.

Q. Did he pay for it!
A. Yes, sir. Those two, after getting the drinks, 

went across the store like they were going out the side 
door on Hampton Avenue, and they turned up the last 
aisle and went back to the front of the store and when 
they got to the front of the store they came back across 
the front and sat in the corner booth on the right-hand 
side.

Q. Facing the store, it would be on the right-hand 
side!

A. If you come in the front door, it would be on 
the right-hand side.

Q. And that corner booth is designed to hold how 
many people!

A. Six or eight people.
Q. Was anybody else sitting at that table at the 

time!
A. No. They went up there and sat down. When I 

saw what had happened, I went up there and I told



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them, I said “You cannot sit in here and drink.” They 
said “We bought the drinks in here.” I said “Yes, I 
know you did, but,” I said, “we do not serve colored 
people in the booths and you know it as well as I know 
it, so get out.”

Q. Did they get out?
A. They didn’t move, so I put them out.
Q. How did you put them out?
A. I got each one by the coat lapel and walked him 

to the front door and put him out. When I came back 
the other one was still sitting there and I said “Didn’t 
you hear me tell the other one to get out? You didn’t 
hear me?” He didn’t answer me, so I just picked him 
up and put him out.

Q. When all this was going on, was there or not any 
confusion in your store at the time?

A. Yes, sir. These two men from—told me they were 
from Huntley and Brinkley News, one of them did, the 
pilot of the plane told me they were from there. When 
I started up there and got to the front he was already 
taking pictures of the colored people sitting in the 
booth. So I told him—I said “Don’t take any pictures 
in this store.”

Q. That was in the hearing of these colored boys?
A. Yes, sir. I said “Don’t take any pictures of this 

in my store and I don’t want to see it on television or 
anywhere else.” So then I went over and put the first 
one out. I came back and he was still taking the pic­
tures. I said “ I told you don’t take no pictures in 
here.” I said “Now get out.”

Q. Did he get out?
A. Not until I put the other one out. Then when I 

came back I got him out.



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Dr. J. H. Lawson

Q. Your store is in the limits of the City of Sumter? 
A. Yes, sir.
Mr. Edmunds: You may examine.

Cross Examination 
By Mr. Finney:
Q. Dr. Lawson, did you charge these two defendants 

with any offense in your store?
A. I didn’t charge them with anything.
Q. Did you sign a warrant for them?
A. No.
Q. When you helped them out of the store, did they 

resist you in any way?
A. No, not to my knowledge.
Q. You took one out and you came back and took 

the other one out?
A. That’s right.
Q. And there was a photographer in your store, tak­

ing pictures?
A. Against my will.
Q. And you ejected him also?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And you used force to eject the photographer as 

well?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did anything else transpire between you and the 

photographer?
A. Yes.
Q. What else, sir?
A. I threw the drinks of the boys on him.
Q. You took the drinks that the boys had bought 

and threw it on the photographer?
A. Yes, sir.



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Q. About what time of day was this, Doctor?
A. To be perfectly frank with you, I couldn’t swear. 

It was before midday; I can say that much.
Q. It was in the morning?
A. It was in the morning, before dinner.
Q. Did you observe anybody doing anything at the 

boys, other than you asking the boys to move ?
A. Wasn’t anybody there. I ’m the manager of the 

store; nobody else to do it.
Q. There wasn’t anybody else in the store at the 

time, sir?
A. Oh, yes, plenty of people.
Q. Did you hear any of these people say anything 

to these boys?
A. No.
Q. Did you see any of these people do anything 

toward these boys?
A. Not in my knowledge.
Q. You maintain a room in the back of the store 

where you serve drinks for members of the Negro 
race that wish to come in and sit down?

A. It’s been there for all these years. People eat 
dinner there every day, some of the colored people 
that work downtown.

Q. Were these boys orderly in your store?
A. Well, so far as stirring up—saying anything to 

anybody, they did not.
Q. All right, sir. Then the answer to that question 

would be that they were orderly?
The Court: Isn’t that a question for the Court? Isn’t 

that what we are here trying, to determine whether it 
was any disorderliness or breach of the peace?

Mr. Finney: All right, sir. We’ll ask it this way, 
then—we’ll withdraw that question.



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By Mr. Finney:
Q. Did the boys say or do anything in your store, 

sir, other than—
A. They didn’t say anything, and all they did was 

sit in the booth, which they knew was the wrong thing 
to do.

Q. Do you know of any law which would prohibit 
them from sitting in the booth, sir?

Mr. Edmunds: I object to that question, Your Honor.
The Court: I don’t think he would be the proper 

person. If there’s any law, I ’m sure the City Attorney, 
if he wanted it in, would put it in and, if there is none, 
you will have an opportunity to argue that to the 
Court.

Mr. Finney: The only question, sir, was did he know. 
I thought he could testify as to whether he had knowl­
edge of such—

The Court: He’s a layman. Well, for whatever it’s 
worth, I ’ll let him answer the question.

A. I really don’t know what laws are on the books.
Q. Do you know, sir, of any that would require

them—
A. I don’t know of any.
Q. You do have a custom of not serving colored at 

your booths in the front of your store; is that correct?
A. It’s always been that way.
Q. And the only reason you ejected these boys was 

because they were colored and were sitting in the booth 
at the front of your store, sir?

A. There were white ladies up there and all and I 
thought it would start a—

Q. Sir, may I ask the question again: The only rea­
son you ejected these hoys was because they were col­
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63 custom, did not allow members of the Negro race to 

sit?
The Court: I think his answer was responsive to 

that, Finney. His answer, as I understood it, was that 
there were white ladies up there and he was afraid 
it would create a disturbance. Isn’t that definitely re­
sponsive to your question? It gives another reason for 
the ejection.

By Mr. Finney:
Q. Did these white ladies that were present complain

to you, sir?
64 A. They have on several occasions.

Q. Did these white ladies at that time complain to 
you, sir?

A. The ones that work for me have.
Q. My question is addressed to the ladies that were 

occupying the booths, sir, and you said might cause 
some friction. Did they complain to you, sir?

A. I had two.
Q. Did those two ladies complain to you on this 

occasion, sir?
66 A. Yes.

Q. What did they tell you?
A. They told me that when they come in there for 

the coffee-break they were scared and didn’t want to 
be in that kind of excitement. I told them that I didn’t 
think it would happen any more.

Q. And then you took it upon yourself to eject the 
boys from your store?

A. Yes, sir. I put white ones out as well as colored 
when they do things that’s not becoming to the store.

Q. You say you put white ones out as well as colored. 
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conducting themselves as these two young men were, 
would you have put them out?

A. No, because they are allowed to sit in the booths; 
the colored are not.

Q. Then the reason you put these two boys out was 
because they were colored?

A. Yes, that was one of the reasons.
Mr. Finney: Thank you. That’s all.

Re-direct Examination
By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. Dr. Lawson, you said you never had seen these 

colored boys before. Do you think perhaps you would 
recognize them if you saw them now?

A. I doubt it.
Q. Well, let’s see. I will ask the defendants to stand 

up.
A. Yes, those were the two.
Q. You recognize them?
A. Now I do. I had never seen them before the other 

day. If they were in my store before, I ’ve never known 
it.

Mr. Edmunds: All right. You may examine.
Re-cross Examination

By Mr. Finney:
Q. Dr. Lawson, do you see anyone else in this court­

room that was arrested in your store? Would you like 
to stand up and look around? Any that had been ar­
rested in your store? You said that prior to this time 
you’d had some sit-ins in your store. Do you recognize 
anyone else?

A. The one with the white coat, the one next to him.
Q. Those two back there?



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A. Yes. This girl over here (indicating). Several of 
them were arrested in there that I didn’t take out the 
store because—

Q. You do recognize that young lady and these two 
young men, the one with the glasses on and the one 
sitting next to the wall?

A. Yes. There was more of them, but I—
Q. You recognize those three, sir?
A. Yes, that’s all. There was some others, but I 

talked to the ones that was at the head of them.
Mr. Finney: Thank you very much.
(Witness excused.)

Mr. C. M. B row n , called as a witness by the City, 
being duly sworn, was examined and testified as fol­
lows :

Direct Examination
By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. Mr. Brown, you are a patrolman for the City of 

Sumter?
A. I am.
Q. How long have you been with the City Police 

Force?
A. Going on eleven years.
Q. And were you with the City on the 15th or 14th 

of February of this year?
A. On the 14th of February, I was.
Q. And were you on duty on that day?
A. I was.
Q. Have you been in court during this hearing?
A. Yes, sir.



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Q. Now tell me what you know about the case against 

these particular boys.
A. When I got there at Mr. Lawson’s it was about 

eleven-twenty-five in the morning; it was on Tuesday, 
I believe, February the 14th. Mr. Lawson was outside 
the door and those two boys right there—

Q. The same ones that stood up a while ago?
A. Yes, sir, the second one and the third—and two 

white fellows with movie projectors, they was there, 
and these fellows here turned around when Dr. Lawson 
brought them out the door and Mr. Lawson told them 
to go on. So the two colored fellows walked on off and 
the two white fellows were still there arguing. I got 
Mr. Lawson quieted down and got him back in the 
store. There was a big crowd there, they was all in 
the street, a lot of people standing around. I watched 
those two boys and they went in Mitchell’s Drug Store.

Q. Alderman’s, or Mitchell’s?
A. Alderman’s. They went in Alderman’s.
Q. That’s right across the street from Lawson’s?
A. Yes, sir, right on the southwest corner. They 

went back there to the fountain and they bought two 
Coca-Colas, bottled Cokes, and then they went and sat 
down in the first booth as you go in to the fountain, the 
first booth, and that’s where we got them out of there.

Q. You arrested them and put them in jail?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Now, when you went in Lawson’s, where were 

these boys?
A. They was coming out the door, Mr. Lawson was 

bringing the last one out the door at the time.
Q. Approximately—I know you didn’t count them; 

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people were gathered up there, in and outside the
store ?

A. I would say fifty or better, Mr. Edmunds. The 
street was full of them. We finally got them quietened 
down.

Q. Did you see Dr. Lawson put one or both of the 
white men out of the store.

A. I seen him when he threw the Pepsi-Cola in one 
of them’s face and camera and all, and I saw him put 
oue of those boys yonder out, too. He’d done put one 
of them out when I got there.

Mr. Edmunds: You may examine him.

Cross Examination 
By Mr. Finney:
Q. Officer, you said that as soon as you got Dr. 

Lawson quieted down you went hack into the store 
and went across the street?

A. I watched those two boys. Dr. Lawson was pretty 
upset and so were the people around.

Q. Did you ever go into Dr. Lawson’s store?
A. I did.
Q. What did you see happen in there, sir?
A. Well, there was a lot of people standing around, 

that’s the only thing. I didn’t see none of the excite­
ment in there; it was outside.

Q. Then you don’t know that there was any excite­
ment in there, do you, sir?

A. Well, there was bound to he, with all those people. 
Q. Did you see it?
A. I didn’t see it. I seen some of it outside the door. 
Q. You said it was eleven-twenty in the morning, sir? 
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Q. At that time of morning Dr. Lawson has his 73 

counter open, serving the public, doesn’t he?
A. That’s right.
Q. And you did not go inside, did you?
A. I didn’t go inside—I went inside after this hap­

pened.
Q. Did you go inside before or after you arrested 

the two defendants?
A. I went in there afterward.
Q. After you had arrested the two defendants?
A. That’s right. 74
Q. Did you take the to jail?
A. That’s right.
Q. So everything that you saw happened on the 

street; is that correct, sir?
,A. No, the door was open and he was bringing one 

of them out the door at the time, like to pushed one of 
them over me, one of them he was coming out the door 
with.

Q. You said there were some people there. Would 
you care to estimate how many police officers were n 
there ?

A. Two.
Q. There were only two officers?
A. That’s right.
Q. Who was the other officer?
A. Sergeant Conner.
Q. You and Sergeant Conner brought the defend­

ants to jail?
A. I did.
Q. That means that no police officer stayed around 

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A. That’s right. There was one more stayed there. 

We got one there at the time and one stayed there; I 
don’t know which one it was, but one stayed there.

Q. There were three policemen on the scene, then?
A. No, there wasn’t but two at the time and when 

the excitement started another police officer came up, 
Officer Durant.

Q. You said the excitement started. What was the 
excitement?

A. The people crowding in the street and all, 
around on the sidewalk, blocked the sidewalk.

Q. What about the throwing of the Coca-Cola into 
the cameraman’s face?

A. I seen that.
Q. You saw that?
A. That’s right.
Q. The cameraman was where then?
A. Shooting pictures of Dr. Lawson.
Q. Where, sir?
A. Coming out—backing out the door.
Q. He was in the street when the Coke—he was out 

the door then?
A. No, he was right in the edge of the door, backing 

out.
Q. Right in the edge of the door?
A. That’s right, backing out.
Q. Did you hear any person say anything inflamma­

tory?
A. No, I didn’t.
Q. Did you see anybody make any threatening ges­

tures ?
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Q. Did you see these two defendants do anything 

threatening to anybody?
A. I seen them walk out, that’s all, one of them come 

out the door.
Q. Did you hear them say anything inflammatory!
>A. No, they didn’t say nothing.
Q. Then do you know of any act, of your own knowl­

edge, that they did which was threatening to anybody?
Mr. Edmunds: Your Honor, that comes right back 

to this same proposition. We haven’t got a jury here 
and, in that event Your Honor is the judge and the jury 
and that, I think, is for the jury and the judge, as a 
matter of fact and a matter of law.

The Court: I think the way the question was phrased, 
anything inflammatory, would be proper. If he had 
asked as to breach of the peace or disorderly, I would 
exclude it.

Mr. Edmunds: I may be wrong, but I thought he said 
did he see them commit any act that was inflammatory. 
Is that what you said?

Mr. Finney: Or threatening.
The Court: That would be a fact, not a conclusion. I 

believe I will permit the question.
By Mr. Finney:
Q. Did you see these defendants commit any act that 

was threatening?
A. I didn’t.
Q. Did you hear them say anything that was in­

flammatory?
A. No, they didn’t say anything.
Q. Did anyone in Alderman’s ask you to arrest 

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A. The girl said they sat down without permission; 

they were supposed to be out, she didn’t want them in 
there.

Q. All she said to you was that they’d sat down with­
out permission?

A. And that they wasn’t supposed to sit there.
Q. You are a police officer?
A. I am.
Q. Do you know of any law which would require 

them not to be in there, sir?
A. The only law, they ain’t supposed to sit down

86 where the whites sit, that’s all.
Q. Do you know of any law, sir?
A. As a rule, I don’t.
Q. Then the answer would be you do not know of any 

law, sir?
A. I don’t know of any.
Q. You do know that there is a custom that the 

whites and Negroes do not sit down at the same lunch- 
counter?

A. That’s right.
87 Q. So at the time the girl told you that they were 

sitting where they did not have permission to sit, did 
you ask them to leave?

A. No, we got them on the book on account of they 
caused all that disturbance in Lawson’s; that’s what 
we arrested them for actually, breach of the peace.

Q. Did you see them cause any disturbance in Law­
son’s, sir?

A. We saw the crowd and that’s what it was—that’s 
where it was at, and that’s the only reason we arrested 
them.

88 Q. Could the crowd have been caused, sir, by the 
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A. No, it couldn’t have—
Q. But yo did see that overt act, didn’t you?
A. I seen that and seen one of them come out with 

Dr. Lawson.
Q. But you did not see them doing anything, did you, 

sir?
A. No; the only thing I seen them doing wrong was 

in there.
Q. Then the only thing they were doing wrong was 

violating a custom; is that correct?
A. That’s right.
Q. So you arrested them for violating a custom?
A. That’s right.
Q. And that was your only reason?
A. For breach of the peace.
Q. And the violation of a custom?
A. That’s right.
Q. You realize that the City of Sumter is a part of 

the State of South Carolina?
A. Yes.
Q. And that you are an official of the City of Sum­

ter?
A. That’s right.
Q. And, in your duty, you were aiding in the mainte­

nance of a custom?
A. That’s right.
Q. Now this custom is based solely upon race, isn’t 

it, sir?
A. That’s right.
Q. And that is the only reason you arrested these 

two defendants?
A. Not solely. For breach of the peace is what I did 

it for. on account of disturbance and all the people 
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Q. But you did not see them commit any overt act, 

did you, sir?
A. I didn’t see them do anything in there.
Mr. Finney: Thank you, sir.
(Witness excused.)
Mr. Edmunds: That concludes the City’s case, Your 

Honor.
MOTIONS

The defendants move to quash the warrant or, in 
the alternative, to dismiss the warrant on the ground 
that the statute and laws under which the same is 
brought are unconstitutional in that they constitute 
an infringement on the rights of these defendants in 
the exercise of their rights as guaranteed them by the 
Fourteenth and First Amendments to the United 
States Constitution, in that the said statutes and/or 
laws under which the said warrant is brought deprives 
the defendants of their constitutional rights as guar­
anteed by said provisions of the United States Con­
stitution.

Motion denied.
The defendants move to quash the warrant or, in 

the alternative, to dismiss the warrant on the ground 
that the statute and/or laws under which the warrant 
charging them is brought is violative of the rights of 
these defendants as guaranteed them under Article I, 
Sections 4 and/or 5, of the Constitution of the State of 
South Carolina.

Motion denied.
The defendants move to dismiss or, in the alterna­

tive, for a directed verdict on the ground that the evi­
dence shows conclusively that the arresting officers 
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Lawson’s Drug Store and/or Alderman’s Drug Store 
in Sumter, South Carolina, to maintain a custom of 
discrimination against the defendants, all Negroes, in 
the operation of lunch-counter facilities solely on the 
basis of race or color, such conduct on the part of such 
police officials, agents of the State, being prohibited 
by the guarantees safeguarded to the defendants under 
the Due-Process and Equal-Protection Clauses of the 
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitu­
tion.

Motion denied.
The defendants move to dismiss or, in the alterna­

tive, for a directed verdict on the ground that the evi­
dence shows that by this prosecution this Court is 
being used in the furtherance of a policy or custom of 
racial distinction based upon race or color alone, in 
the operation of lunch-counter facilities in Lawson’s 
Drug Store in Sumter, South Carolina, any such ac­
tivity on the part of this Court, an instrumentality of 
the State, being prohibited by the Due-Process and 
Equal-Protection Clauses of the Fourteenth Amend­
ment to the United States Constitution.

Motion denied.
The defendants move to dismiss or, in the alterna­

tive, for a directed verdict upon the ground that the 
City of Sumter has failed to establish by competent 
evidence the corpus delicti.

Motion denied.
The defendants move to dismiss or, in the alterna­

tive, for a directed verdict upon the ground that the 
City of Sumter has failed to establish by competent 
evidence a prima facie case.

Motion denied.



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H erman K . H arris, Jr.
H erman K . H arris, Jr., one of the defendants, being

101 first duly sworn, was examined and testified as fol­
lows :

Direct Examination
By Mr. Finney:
Q. What is your name!
A. Herman Harris.
Q. Where are you from!
A. Lancaster, South Carolina.
Q. What are you doing in Sumter!

102 A. I am a student at Morris College.
Q. What’s your classification!
A. Sophomore.
Q. On or about February the 14th, 1961, did you 

have occasion to go into Alderman’s Drug Store!
A. Yes.
Q. When you got into Alderman’s Drug Store, tell 

the Court what happened.
A. When I got into Alderman’s Drug Store I bought 

a soda.
103 Q. Where did you buy the soda!

A. Over at the counter.
Q. What happened after you bought the soda!
A. The fellow with me, we went over and sit down 

and we sat there for about approximately two minutes 
and two officers came to us. Well, they said “What are 
you doing sitting here!”  We just looked at them, so 
the}T took us by the arm and brought us out.

Mr. Edmunds: Let me interrupt. Where are you 
talking about!

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By Mr. Finney: 10B
Q. He took you by the arm and led you out?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did he tell you you were under arrest?
A. No. I asked him, I said “What are you arresting 

me for?” He said “ You know you don’t have any busi­
ness being in here.” They brought us on down the 
street and through the alley there and they stayed be­
hind us, told us to come in the blue door. We came on in 
and stopped and waited on them. They told us to come 
on in. We stopped again. They said go into this room 
back there. 10

Q. Which room?
A. That room over there.
Mr. Finney: I would like for the record to indicate 

that he is showing the room where the booking station 
is at Police Headquarters—I guess that’s what you call 
it.

The Court: That’s right.
By Mr. Finney:
Q. Did anyone in Alderman’s Drug Store say any­

thing to yon? Did the waitress say anything to von! im
A. No.'
0. Did anyone come over and ask you to leave!
A. No.
Q. Did the officer ask you to leave?
A. No.
Q. Was there anyone sitting at the table—what were 

you sitting at, the table or a counter?
A. We were sitting at a table.
Q. Was anyone sitting at that table?
A. No one but Mr. Drummond and T. ]08
Q. Was there anyone else at any of the other tables?
A. Yes.



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Q. And no one said anything to you!
A. No.
Q. Did the officer tell you to leave!
A. No, sir.
Q. When you got to the desk back here, what hap­

pened then!
A. The officer behind the desk told us to empty our 

pockets. So we took everything out of our pockets and 
put it on the table. Then he said—

Mr. Edmunds: Your Honor, I object on the ground 
that this is no part of the charge here.

110 The Court: Objection sustained. It’s after the actual 
occurrence with which the defendant is charged and I 
don’t see the relevancy of it.

By Mr. Finney:
Q. When you went into Alderman’s Drug Store did 

you say anything to anybody!
A. No, sir.
Q. Did you ask the lady at the counter for what you 

wanted!
A. Yes, sir.

111 Q. Did you pay for it!
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you get your change back!
A. We gave her a dime for each soda.
Q. Were you—I don’t want you to brag on yourself, 

but were you well-dressed, or were you neat!
A. Yes, sir, I suppose.
Q. Were you disorderly in any manner!
A. No, sir.
Mr. Edmunds: I object.
The Court: Tht’s a conclusion that I ’m going to have 

to decide. I ’m going to strike that.

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H erman K . H aebis, Jr.
By Mr. Finney:
Q. Did you do any overt act!
A. No, sir.
Q. Did you go in Lawson’s Drug Store immediately 

before you went in Alderman’s?
A. Yes.
Q. While in Lawson’s Drug Store did you buy any­

thing?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What did you buy!
A. I bought an orange soda.
Q. Did you pay for the orange soda?
A. Yes, sir, I did.
Q. What happened after you paid for the orange 

soda?
A. I came up the aisle on the left-hand side going out 

of the store and sat down at the booth.
Q. Did anyone say anything to you?
A. No.
Q. Did Dr. Lawson come up to you?
A. We sat there for apprixamtely two or three min­

utes and someone said “ Dr. Lawson, Dr. Lawson”, and 
this elderly gentleman came and grabbed me by my 
arm and he said “Nigger, get out” , and I didn’t say 
anything. He used obscene language and said “Did you 
hear me tell you to get out?”

Mr. Edmunds: I object to his statement there. Let 
him say what he said.

The Court: Objection sustained.
By Mr. Finney:
Q. What did he say to you? Don’t say “ obscene” ; 

say what he said, if you remember.
A. He said “You God-damned son-of-a-bitch, didn’t 

you hear me say get out?” and he grabbed me by my



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right arm and pulled me out, and Mr. Drummond stood 
up also. The man that served us the soda pushed Mr. 
Drumond and—

Q. Dd you see him push him?
A. Yes, sir. So this elderly gentleman—I guess he 

was Mr. Lawson—pushed us out the store. After he 
pushed us out of the door, then he pushed the other 
guys out, the camerman. He went back to get my 
orange soda and he threw it all over the man, and he 
was cursing those men.

Q. Did he give you your money back for your orange
soda?

A. No, sir, he did not.
Q. Did you do anything to resist Mr. Lawson when 

he put you out of his store ?
A. No, I didn’t.
Q. Did you see anyone else do anything in Mr. Law­

son’s store?
A. No, I didn’t.
Q. Did you see Mr. Lawson when he threw the 

orange soda at or on the cameraman ?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you know anything about the cameramen 

were going to be here?
A. No, I didn’t.
Q. And you saw nobody do anything except Mr. 

Lawson ?
A. The young man that served us the soda came up 

and pushed the young man who was with me; said 
“Nigger, didn’t you hear Mr. Lawson say get out of 
here?”

Q. So the only persons you heard or saw do any­
thing were Mr. Lawson and the young man who served 
the soda?

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H erman K. H arris, Jr.
A. There was a young lady there too.
Q. What did she say or do?
A. She was trying to calm this elderly gentleman 

they call Mr. Lawson down.
Q. When you say “ calm him down” , what was he 

doing?
A. Well, he was cursing and throwing this soda out 

on the street on this man and she told him “ Come back 
inside, Doctor; don’t get upset.”

Q. When you got on the street did you see anybody 
else, did you see many people around?

A. No, sir.
Q. Did you see the officer that just testified?
A. Yes, sir, he and another officer.
Mr. Finney: Your witness.

Cross Examination
By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. Your name is Herman Harris?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you know of any other reason, except just a 

mere coincidence, that those camera people came in 
that store just the same time you did, or thereabouts?

Mr. Finney: I object, Your Honor. I think that that 
calls for a conclusion beyond the knowledge of the 
witness that has not been established.

The Court: Well, if the witness doesn’t know, he 
can say so. It might be that he had heard. I wouldn’t 
know whether it was beyond his knowledge or not.

By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. Did you know or have any knowledge at that 

time that the meeting of you and your friend checked 
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with the moving-picture cameras, except a mere co-

L25 incidence1?
A. I don’t know.
Q. Did you know that they were going to be there? 
A. No.
Q. Were you told that they were going to be there? 
A. No, sir.
Q. Their being there was a complete surprise to

you?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Had you ever been in Lawson’s before this oc-

126 casion?
A. I don’t think so.
Q. You don’t know whether you had or not?
A. No, sir, I hadn’t been in there.
Q. What day of the week was this?
A. The 14th of February, if I recall correctly.
Q. And what day of the week would that be?
A. I don’t know.
Q. Do you have classes every morning of the week 

out at Morris College?
127 A. You ask me do I have classes?

Q. Yes.
A. No, sir.
Q. What mornings do you have classes out there?
A. Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
Q. What do you do Tuesdays, Thursdays and Satur­

days?
A. Tuesday I have a class at ten o’clock.
Q. That lasts how long?
A. Ten to eleven, and that afternoon I have one from' 

one to two, and Thursdays I have only one and that’s 
ten to eleven.

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Q. Did you cut any classes in order to come to Law­

son’s on this particular day?
A. No, I didn’t.
Q. Do you have to get permission from anybody in 

authority out at Morris College to leave the campus?
Mr. Finney: Your Honor, we object to this. I think 

it’s going too far afield. I realize it’s cross examination, 
but it has no relation, no bearing, upon this charge of—

The Court: I think I see what Mr. Edmunds is lead­
ing to, that he’s attempting to delve into whether there 
was any possibility of any intention to come into town 
purposely to get arrested. Is that what you are—

Mr. Edmunds: That’s my purpose, and if I don’t 
link it up I expect Your Honor would strike it.

The Court: I overrule the objection.
By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. How did you come to town on this particular 

morning ?
A. I came to town in a car.
Q. Whose car?
A. I ’m not positive whose car it was.
Q. How many of you rode in the car?
A. Approximately five.
Q. Did you come with Drummond?
A. Yes, we did; we were together.
Q. And you came for a particular purpose, did you 

not?
Q. Did you not come to down to go into Lawson’s 

so that you would be arrested?
A. No; no, sir.
Q. Did you not come to town to go into Lawson’s to 

sit down at what they call a sit-in demonstration ?
A. No, sir.



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133 Q- the people that you rode to town with in the 

car enter into a sit-in demonstration anywhere else in 
town on this particular morning?

A. The person that drove the car?
Q. Anybody else in the car with you?
A. I don’t know what you mean by—
Q. Just give me the names of the people you rode 

to town with.
A. Mr. Moore, Mr. Drummond, myself, Mr. Andrew 

Pollard.
Q. How do you spell that last name?

134 A. I don’t know.
Q. Well, is it P-a-r-k, or Parler, or what?
A. Pollard.
Q. P-o-l-l-a-r-d?
A. I don’t know; it’s not my name.
Q. You say you are a sophomore at college?
A. Yes, sir, I am.
Q. Did you not know on this particular morning that 

there were going to be sit-ins in several places in the 
city?

1 3 5  i  -x-rA. No, sir.
Q. Did you not know that you would not be allowed 

to sit down at those front counters in Lawson’s?
A. Would you restate the question, please?
Q. You had no trouble hearing your lawyer. Why 

can’t you hear me? Did you not know that you were 
not allowed, and would not be allowed, to sit down at 
those counters in Lawson’s?

A. No, sir, I did not.
Q. You did not?
A. No, sir. There was no sign to say where I could 

sit.

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H erman K. H arris, Jr .
Q. Well, have you been coming downtown during 

the two years you have been here!
A. This is my first year here in Sumter.
Q. When did you come here—in September?
A. Yes, sir, I did.
Q. From September until February did you come 

downtown and sit down at counters that sell food in 
Sumter?

A. Well, no.
Q. You did not; you never tried it before?
A. No, sir.
Q. Well, tell me this: Why didn’t you sit down at 

the counter when you first went into the drug store 
and then ask for service?

A. Isn’t it the policy that you go back and order 
your drinks before you sit down?

The Court: Don’t answer the question with a ques­
tion. Just answer the question.

The Witness: Well, I wanted to get my soda first 
and sit down.

By Mr. Edmunds:
Q! Why?
A. Because I though that was the policy.
Q. You did?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You don’t think that people sit down at coun­

ters in cafes and so forth and a waitress comes up and 
asks what they want and they serve them?

A. I don’t know, sir.
Q. But you did not sit down there when you first 

went in, did you?
A. No, sir.
Q. You went back to the wrapping counter on the 

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A. I guess you’d call it the wrapping counter. I 

don’t know what it was.
Q. And you asked for an orange drink, I believe!
A. May I say something!
Q. Just answer my question.
A. No, sir.
Q. What did you ask for!
A. Well, I went to the counter and the lady stand­

ing there, she never did wait on me, and we went on 
down to another, possibly five feet, and a young man 
waited on me.

142 Q. And you bought an orange drink from him!
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You paid him a dime for it!
A. I did.
Q. Was Drummond right by you!
A. Yes, he was.
Q. And what did he order!
A. I don’t recall directly, but it was soda in a cup.
Q. Yours was in a glass and not in a cup!
A. Yes, it was in the bottle.

143 Q- Now when you and Drummond got your drinks 
and paid the man didn’t you head back through the 
store toward the entrance on Hampton Avenue!

A. No, sir.
Q. Where did you go after you got your soda!
A. We came on up the aisle.
Q. Which aisle!
A. The aisle on the left-hand side, coming out of 

the store.
Q. The aisle right by the soda fountain!
A. Yes.

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A. Yes, sir.
Q. And that was the booth in the corner that would 

hold some six to eight people, I believe?
A. That’s right.
Q. Did Dr. Lawson come up and tell you you weren’t 

supposed to be sitting there and to get out, or words 
to that effect?

A. Yes, sir.
Q. And, just like he says, you didn’t get out, did 

you? You just looked at him and said nothing?
A. He didn’t say that.
Q. What did he say?
A. He came up and first thing he did was start 

cursing and grabbed my arm and pulled me out; that’s 
the way he said get out.

Q. Didn’t he tell you “Boy, don’t you know you got 
no business here? Now get out” ?

A. No, sir, he had me when he was telling me that.
Q. Well, did you get out?
A. Well, yes, I got out.
Q. Didn’t he get you by the lapel of your coat and 

pull you out?
A. He had my arm. No, sir, he didn’t have my lapel.
Q. And that’s exactly what you expected to happen, 

wasn’t it?
A. No, sir.
Q. By that time you realized, then, that you weren’t 

allowed to sit at the counter in Lawson’s and ask for 
service or sit down and drink; is that right?

A. I suppose so.
Q. Very definitely—isn’t that so? From the lan­

guage you say he used, could he have used any 
stronger language?

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Q. All right. So you went right across the street to 

Lawson’s and pulled the same trick, didn’t you!
A. Alderman’s!
Q. Alderman’s, yes.
A. Yes, sir.
Q. When you had just been thrown out of Lawson’s!
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Didn’t the young lady tell you you weren’t sup­

posed to sit in Alderman’s and ask you to get out and 
you didn’t do it!

u» A - Tes> sir’
Q. And just momentarily after that the police came 

in and arrested you, didn’t they!
A. That’s right.
The Court: Let me ask you one question. Have you 

heard of any other Morris College students in the last 
several months being arrested for using the counters 
or booths in other stores on Main Street in the city o£ 
Sumter!

The Witness: Yes, sir, I ’ve heard about that.
161 The Court: When you told Mr. Edmunds that you 

knew that it wasn’t prohibited to sit down at these 
places—I’m not trying to quote—that wasn’t entirely 
accurate; you had knowledge of other people being 
arrested for the same thing that you did—is that cor­
rect!

The Witness: Yes, sir, I heard about it, read 
about it.

By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. Do you deny in this proceeding and to the Court 

o that you weren’t intentionally participating in what
162 you read in the papers about sit-in demonstrations!

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H erm an  K . H arris, Jr.
Q. Do you deny that you weren’t knowingly partici­

pating on this occasion in what we commonly call— 
you say you read the newspapers—a sit-in demon­
stration ?

A. Yes.
Q. You deny that!
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Then you say that you were perfectly innocent 

in your actions in this matter!
A. I do, sir.
Q. That you sincerely thought that you could either 

have sat down there and been served or do as you did, 
get your drink and go and sit down and drink it!

Mr. Finney: Your Honor, we object to the question. 
It is long and involved and actually leading to the wit­
ness. I realize this is cross examination—

The Court: On cross examination I think it’s a 
proper question. Objection overruled.

Will you read the question, Mr. Reporter!
(Pending question read by the reporter.)
By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. What’s your answer to that?
A. Yes, sir.
The Court: Let me ask you this: Why did you think 

that you would receive any different treatment from 
the treatment other students that you knew about had 
received ?

The Winess: Will you repeat the question, please?
The Court: I will. Why did you think you would 

receive any treatment from the treatment other stu­
dents you had read about had already received before 
you?



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H erman K . H arris, Jr.
The Witness: Well, Your Honor, I thought that, 

just being free, a person could buy something, if he 
could buy anything else in the store—

The Court: That’s not an answer to my question, I 
don’t believe. Did you understand the question!

The Witness: I don’t think so.
The Court: You have testified that you had heard 

that other Morris College students had been arrested 
for doing exactly what you had on this day; is that 
right!

The Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: And you have further testified that you 

felt that you could go in and sit down and do these 
things without any fear of being bothered whatsoever; 
is that right!

The Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: How do you reconcile the two state­

ments, that others had been arrested for doing exactly 
what you did, how is it you felt that you could do it 
and be above the law and not be arrested!

The Witness: Because I didn’t think that was the 
law, arresting a person for sitting down like that.

The Court: Had you read further in the paper that 
these other Morris College students had been con­
victed for breach of the peace!

The Witness: No; frankly, I don’t know what that 
means.

The Court: Do you know that they had been tried 
and found guilty of something as a result of what they 
did!

The Witness: No, sir.
The Court: You didn’t know that!
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H erman K. H arris, J r .
The Court: But you knew they had been arrested?
The Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: And you didn’t think you would be ar­

rested for doing exactly the same thing they had done?
The Witness: No, sir, I didn’t.
The Court: Mr. Edmunds, I didn’t mean to inter­

rupt your examination.
Mr. Edmunds: That’s all right.
By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. I believe you were saying that you felt that they 

were free and would have the right to do what they 
did without being arrested; isn’t that what you said?

A. Yes, sir.
Q. And you resented the fact that those others had 

been arrested and convicted, did you not?
A. Would you restate the question, please?
Q. You resented the fact that the ones you read 

about had been arrested and convicted?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Then you thought you would try it and see how 

you came out?
A. No, sir.
Q. You were going to demand your rights as you 

considered them to be; is that right?
A. I think that would be right, yes, sir.
Mr. Edmunds: That’s all.

Re-direct Examination
By Mr. Finney:
Q. Since the Court and prosecuting attorney have 

gone into what happened before and since, have you 
heard of any change in the policy of any stores in the



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H erman K. H arris, J r .
166 city of Sumter since your arrest, as to serving mem­

bers of the Negro race at lunch counters?
A. I think so.
Q. And what is that change which you have heard 

of?
Mr. Edmunds: Your Honor, I know both Counsel 

Finney and myself have gone into Alderman’s, which 
was part and parcel of it, and what happened before 
and his intent would be part and parcel of it and, 
therefore, relevant, but if, considerably subsequent to 
the time of this particular occurrence, there has been 
some change, it could not, if it please the Court, affect 
the question of his intent or his feelings in the matter 
or his actions on this occasion, if it happened even a 
day after this took place.

Mr. Finney: Your Honor, we ask the question be­
cause of the fact that the point has been raised as to 
the question of the enforcement of this custom and 
did he know. Of course, we take the position that this 
is a maintenance of a custom and customs can change, 
and the Court went into that realm and we were merely

167 trying to show that there has been, in fact, a change 
of custom perhaps in this locality.

The Court: Let me hear a little bit more before I 
rule on the question. I think your first question cer­
tainly is not objectionable, but I agree with Mr. Ed­
munds that the time element is very important in this 
kind of question.

Mr. Finney: I don’t remember what the question 
was now, but—

The Court: I think I can almost rephrase it for you: 
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H erman K. H arris, Jr.
By Mr. Finney:
Q. Have you heard of any change in custom in the 

city of Sumter since the beginning of this year?
A. I think so, yes, sir.
Q. What was your knowledge of that?
The Court: Before I ’m going to let him answer I ’m 

going to want it tied down as to when he heard of it 
and when the change of custom took place.

By Mr. Finney:
Q. Do you know when you heard of this change?
The Court: Let me ask a question that might clarify 

it. Did you hear of this change before you were ar­
rested or after you were arrested?

The Witness: After I was arrested.
The Court: I am going to rule the line of question­

ing out. It could not have had any effect on his inten­
tion at the time.

Mr. Finney: All right, sir.
By Mr. Finney:
Q. As a student, do you know that customs do 

change; before you were arrested, did you know that 
customs have a habit of changing?

A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you know of any law which would prohibit 

your sitting down, at a lunch counter or at a table in 
Lawson’s or Alderman’s?

A. No, sir.
Mr. Finney: That’s all.



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H erman K . H arris, Jr.

us Re-cross Examination
By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. Did you know of any law that when you go into 

a private place of business and they ask you to leave 
that you are required by law to leave promptly?

A. If it’s private, yes, sir.
Re-direct Examination

By Mr. Finney:
Q. What type of store is Lawson’s?

174 A. It’s a drug store.
Q. Do they have other counters in there?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you see members of the public in there at 

the time you went in there?
A. The public, yes, sir.
Q. Did you see members of the public in Alderman’s

also?
A. Yes, sir.
(The witness excused.)

175 Mr. Edmunds: Do you want to stipulate that the 
other witness will testify likewise? It suits me, if 
you do.

Mr. Finney: All right.
I think we want to put one additional witness on the 

stand to clarify one point. The defense calls Mildred 
Welch.

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M ildred W elch
M ildred W elch , called as a witness by the defend^ 

ants, being first duly sworn, was exam ined and testi­
fied as fo llo w s :

Direct Examination
By Mr. Finney:
Q. What is your name?
A. Mildred Welch.
Q. Did you hear the gentleman who identified him­

self as Dr. Lawson testify this morning?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you see Dr. Lawson point you out as a per: 

son who was arrested in his drug store?
A. Yes.
The Court: Let me ask this: What’s the relevancy 

of this?
Mr. Finney: Challenging the credibility of the iden­

tification.
The Court: On a collateral matter?
Mr. Finney: Yes, sir.
The Court You can’t test it on a collateral matter.
Mr. Finney: Your Honor, he has identified these 

gentlemen as persons and he identified others on the 
stand who had been arrested, and he testified—

The Court: What do you say, Mr. Edmunds?
Mr. Edmunds: I have no objection.
The Court: All right, you may proceed.
By Mr. Finney:
Q. Did you hear Dr. Lawson identify you as an in­

dividual who had been arrested in his drug store?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Are you a student at Morris College?
A. No, I am not.
Q. Have you ever been arrested in Dr. Lawson’s 

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M ildred W elch 
A. No, I haven’t.
Q. Did you attend Morris College at one time?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Have you ever participated in a demonstration 

in Dr. Lawson’s drug store?
A. No, sir.
Q. Or any other demonstration in and about the city 

of Sumter?
A. No, sir.
Mr. Finney: Thank you. Your witness.

Cross Examination 
By Mr. Edmunds:
Q. Have you been arrested anywhere in town in the 

last six months?
A. No, sir.
Q. Do you go to Morris College?
A. No, sir.
Q. Where do you live?
A. I reside at 210 Brown Street.
Q. What’s your business?
A. I teach.
Q. What do you teach?
A. I ’m not teaching at the present time.
Q. What do you do now for a living?
A. Sitting down—
Mr. Edmunds: Sitting down? You can go back there 

and sit down.
The Court: Sitting down, or sitting in?
The Witness: Sitting down at home.
(The witness excused.)
The Court: Anything in reply for the City, Mr. 

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Mr. Finney: I think, as Mr. Edmunds has already 
indicated, we will stipulate that if we were to call the 
other defendant he would testify—

Mr. Edmunds: That he would testify to the same 
things.

Mr. Finney: Your Honor, at this time we would like 
to get an agreement from Mr. Edmunds that we re­
new our motions made at the end of the City’s case.

Mr. Edmunds: That’s all right.

MOTIONS
It is stipulated that the defendants at this point re­

new each and all of the motions heretofore made at the 
close of the City’s case, and that each and all of the 
said motions are denied.

JUDGMENT
The Court found each of the defendants guilty as 

charged and imposed fines of one hundred dollars or 
the service of thirty days as to each of the defendants.

MOTIONS
It is stipulated that the defendants at this point 

move for arrest of judgment or, in the alternative, for 
a new trial upon each and every of the grounds as­
signed in the motions heretofore made prior to the 
plea, at the close of the City’s evidence and at the close 
of all of the evidence, and that each and all of said 
motions are denied.

Mr. Finney: We wish to give oral notice of inten­
tion to appeal and will file written notice.

(Thereupon, the trial of the above-entitled case was 
concluded.)



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ORDER
These defendants were convicted by the Recorder of 

the City of Sumter for breach of the peace under a 
warrant setting forth that they did enter the store of 
S. H. Kress, a private mercantile establishment, and 
they sat down at the lunch counter and were requested 
to leave by the manager or his agent and that they 
refused to leave, for which they were subsequently ar­
rested and found guilty of breach of the peace.

The exceptions raise the issue that the Recorder 
erred in refusing the motion to quash the warrant 
upon the grounds that the facts therein stated did not 
constitute a breach of the peace, that the arrest of the 
officer constituted state action, that the statutes and 
ordinances under which the warrant was issued, which 
are unconstitutional in that they infringe upon the 
rights of the defendants as guaranteed by the first and 
fourteenth amendments of the Constitution of the 
United States, and article one, sections four and five 
of the Constitution of South Carolina; and that the 
defendant has been denied the right of freedom of 
speech and assembly as guaranteed by the first amend­
ment of the Constitution of the United States; and 
that the evidence fails to make out a prima facie case 
against the defendants; and motion for direction of 
verdict should have been granted. These same ques­
tions are presented as errors for motion of arrest of 
judgment and of a new trial.

The facts are undisputed and briefly stated, the de­
fendants are colored and went into a private store, 
made a purchase and sat down at the lunch counter 
and were requested by manager or his agent to leave 
and that they refused to leave. Trial and prosecution 
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It may now be said to be the settled law of this state 
that one who enters a private establishment and re­
fuses to leave at the request of the management or 
agent is guilty of trespass and breach of the peace and 
that no constitutional rights guaranteed by either the 
United States Constitution or South Carolina Consti­
tution have been violated. (State v. Bouie, Feb. 13, 
1962.

The exceptions are, therefore, without merit and the 
conviction of the Court below is affirmed, and 

It is so ordered.
J ames H tjgh M cF addin, 

Judge of Third Judicial Circuit.
Manning, S. C.,
February 23, 1962.

EXCEPTIONS
1. The Court erred in overruling appellants’ motion 

to quash the information and dismiss the warrant, 
made upon the ground that the warrant does not set 
forth or allege facts sufficient to constitute a breach 
of the peace.

2. The Court erred in refusing to hold that the City 
of Sumter failed to establish the corpus delicti or 
prove a prima facie case, in that:

(a) It was not shown that appellants engaged 
in conduct which was unlawful.

(b) It was not shown that appellants committed 
acts which directly tended to breach the peace.

(c) It was not shown that appellants committed 
acts or engaged in conduct which incited others to 
violence.

(d) It was not shown that appellants committed 
acts of violence.



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(e) It was not shown that appellants engaged in 
obscene conduct.

(f) It was not shown that appellants uttered 
profane language.

(g) It was not shown that appellants conducted 
themselves in disorderly fashion.

3. The Court erred in refusing to hold that appel­
lants were convicted upon a record devoid of any evi­
dence of the commission of any of the essential ele­
ments of the crime charged, in violation of appellants’ 
right to due process of law, guaranteed by the Four­
teenth Amendment to the United States Constitution 
and by Article I, Section 5, Constitution of the State 
of South Carolina.

4. The Court erred in refusing to hold that the evi­
dence shows conclusively that by arresting appellants, 
the officers were aiding and assisting the owners and 
managers of Lawson’s Pharmacy in maintaining their 
policies of segregating or excluding services to Ne­
groes at their lunch counters on the ground of race 
or color, in violation of appellants’ right to due proc­
ess of law and equal protection of the law, secured by 
the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Con­
stitution.

5. The Court erred in refusing to hold that the evi­
dence shows that by arresting appellants, the officers 
deprived them of their rights to freedom of expression 
and freedom of speech, protected by the First and 
Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Consti­
tution.

6. The Court erred in refusing to hold that the evi­
dence offered against appellants, all Negroes, estab­
lishes that at the time of their arrests, they were at­
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son’s Pharmacy, open to the public, which was denied 
them solely because of race and color, in violation of 
the due process and equal protection clauses of the 
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Consti­
tution.

AGREEMENT
It is hereby stipulated and agreed by and between 

counsel for the appellants and respondent that the 
foregoing, when printed, shall constitute the Tran­
script of Record herein and that printed copies thereof 
may be filed with the Clerk of the Supreme Court and 
shall constitute the Return herein.

C. M. E dmunds,
Sumter, S. C.,

Attorney for Respondent.

E rnest A. F in n ey , Jr.,
Sumter, S. C.,

W illiam  W . B ennett ,
Florence, S. C.,

J enkins & P erry,
Columbia, S. C.,

Attorneys for Appellants.

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