Johnson v. The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company Appendix Vol I

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September 17, 1969 - February 7, 1973

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AFL-CIO and Local Union No. 347 also acting as defnedants-appellees

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    IN THE
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS 

FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT 
NO. 73-1712

R. L. JOHNSON, et al.,
Plaintiffs- Appellants,

THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY, 
and INTERNATIONAL UNION OF 
OPERATING ENGINEERS, AFL-CIO, LOCAL 
UNION NO. 347,

Defendants-Appellees.

Appeal From The United States District Court For The 
Southern District of Texas, Houston Division

APPELLANTS' APPENDIX 
Volume I, pages la - 337a

GABRIELLE K. MCDONALD 
MARK T. MCDONALD1834 Southmore Blvd. 

Suite 203
Houston, Texas 77004

JACK GREENBERG 
WILLIAM L. ROBINSON 
C. VERNON MASON 
MORRIS J„ BALLER

10 Columbus Circle 
Suite 2030
New York, N.Y. 10019

ATTORNEYS FOR PLAINTIFFS- 
APPELLANTS



INDEX

Docket Entries ....... .............................  la
Complaint, filed September 17, 1969 ...............  7a
Answer of Defendant Goodyear Tire & Rubber
Company filed October 14, 1969 ....................  10a
Motion To Substitute Counsel, filed June 3, 1971 ... 14a ^
Plaintiffs' Motion For A Continuance, filed in
Duplicate July 8, 1971 ..................... ....... 16a
Plaintiffs' Motion To Join Party Defendant, filed 
in Duplicate, July 8, 1971 ........................  18a
Motion of International Union, etc. in CA-71-H-1027
For Consolidation, filed October 14, 1971 .........  23a
Order granting Plaintiffs' Motion To Join As A
Party Defendant, Local 347, International UnionOf Operating Engineers, AFL-CIO, October 19, 1971... 26a
Plaintiffs' First Amended Complaint, filed
October, 1971 ...................................... 27a
Order Granting Defendants Motion To Consolidate
signed and filed October 27, 1971 .................  34a
Answer of defendant International Union, filed
November 10, 1971 .................................  3 5a
Order Granting Plaintiffs' Application For a
Preliminary"Injunction, filed November 19, 1971 .... 39a
Defendant Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company's
Amended Answer filed December 13, 1971 ............  41a
Memorandum Opinion filed August 10, 1972 ..........  43a
Judgment entered November 20, 1972.................  70a
Notice of Appeal by Plaintiffs filed (Consolidated 
CA 71-H-1027) , December 18, 1972 ..................  75a
Notice of Appeal by Defendant Goodyear Tire & Rubber
Co., filed December 29, 1972 ......................  77a
Notice of Appeal by Defendant International Union 
Of Operating Engineers, filed January 2, 1973 .....  79a l

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Order granting an Extension of time for filing the
Record on Appeal, filed February 7, 1973 ................  81a
Trial Transcript ......................................... 82a

Plaintiffs Exhibits: (also A,8,0,0)
Charge of Discrimination filed by R.L. Johnson with
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission dated 5-4-67 ....  717a
Decision of the Equal Employment Opportunity
Commission dated 10-23-68 ...............................  718a
Notice of Right to Sue within 30 days received from 
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission by R.L.
Johnson, dated 8-18-69 ..................................  723a
EEO-1 Reports of the Defendant Goodyear Tire & Rubber
Co., Synthetic Rubber Plant, Houston, Texas dated
12-15-66; 3-24-67; 3-22-68; 5-16-69; 11-30-70 ............. 724a
Total New HireesOf the Defendant Goodyear Tire and 
Rubber Co., Synthetic Rubber Plant, Houston, Texas 
from 12-1-69 through 11-30-70 ...........................  734a
Wage Rates for the period covering 7-2-65 through
7-26-71 .................................................. 738a
Guidelines on Testing and Educational Qualifications 
promulgated by the Equal Employment Opportunity
Commission 29 CFR 1605 ..................................  749a
Statistical Data on Years of Education completed by race:

(a) Civil Rights in Texas, A Report of the 
Texas Advisory Committee to the U.S. Commission
on Civil Rights, February, 1970, p.4 ................ 757a
(b) The Social and Economic Status of Negroes 
In The United States, 1969 jointly prepared by 
the United States Department of Labor and
Department of Commerce, p.51 .......................  760a
(c) Population Characteristics, 1969 prepared
by the United States Department of Commerce ........  762a

Labor Contracts between the defendants - joint exhibit 
- See Defendant Companys1 Exhibits at 824a & 896a



Chart for Black Employees, Showing Name, Continuous 
Service, Divisional Seniority, Initial Job Classi­
fication, Present Job Classification, Present Job
Rate, Tests and Scores and Educational Years ............  768a
Chart for White Employees, Showing Name, Continuous 
Service, Divisional Seniority, Initial Job Classi­
fication, Present Job Rate, Tests and Scores and
Educational Years .......................................  777a
Summary Sheet for Black Employees hired pre-1957 ........  801a
Summary Sheet for White Employees hired pre-1957 ........  802a
Summary Sheet for Black Employees hired since 1957 ......  803a
Summary Sheet for White Employees hired since 1957 ......  804a
Summary Sheet for Total Employment of Blacks ............  805a
Summary Sheet for Total Employment of Whites ............  806a
Test Scores of Employees hired after 1956 ...............  807a
Black Employees placed in departments other than
Labor from 1962 through 12-10-71 ........................  817a
Blacks hired into Labor initially from 1957 through
1971 ..................................................... 819a
C. Lyon's Refusal .....................................  820a
Whites placed into departments other than Labor
from 1962 through 12-10-71 ................................ 821a
Whites hired into Labor from 1957 through 1971 ..........  822a
Employees hired after 1956 ...............................  823a

Defendant Company's Exhibits :
Labor Contract between the Goodyear Tire and Rubber
Company and IOUE Local No. 347, 1967 ....................  824a

ILabor Contract between the Goodyear Tire and Rubber
Company and IOUE Local No. 347, 1970 ....................  896a
Production - Divisional Seniority and Classification
1967 ..................................................... 959a
Production - Divisional Seniority and Classification
1969 .................. ..................................  983a
Production - Divisional Seniority and Classification 
1971 .......................... .................... 1008a



Affected Class - Minority Employees Now Employed
Who Were Hired Prior to September 7, 1965 ...............  1035a
Corrected Minority List (Negroes only), 1971 ............  1049a
Transfers to Production, 1968 ...........................  1056a
Results of 1969 Survey of Labor Department Employees
Hired Before 1957 .......................................  1070a
Minority Employment by Operating Engineer Seniority
Groups As of December 11, 1971 ..........................  1093a
Employees as of July 1, 1971, who Entered Operating
Engineer Seniority Groups from July 14, 1962 Through
April 27, 1971 by Transfer or Hiring ....................  1094a
Current Employees Who Entered Operating Engineer 
Seniority Groups from January 1, 1962 Through
December 12, 1971 By Transfer or Hiring .................  1095a
Transfer Card ............................................ 1096a
The Wingfoot - Goodyear's Publication for March-April
1962 ..................................................... 1097a
Transfer to Production, L. Brown ........................  1098a
Employees Rate Cards (Black Employees) ................... 1103a
Employees Rate Cards (White Employees) ................... 1161a
Flow Chart of the Plioflex Cold Rubber Process ..........  1290a
11.6.70 Letter from F.L. Vanosdall to Paul Teague ....... 1291a
9.7.71 Letter From F.L. Vanosdall to Paul Teague ........  1293a
Affected Class (List of Employees now Employed Who
Were Hired Prior to September 7, 1965) ..................  1294a
11.8.71 Letter from F.L. Vanosdall to Members of
the Affected Class ......................................  1295a
10.29.71 Notice Posted in the Production Department .....  1296a
11.8.71 Notice Posted in the Production Department ......  1297a

Defendant Union's Exhibits;
10.22.70 Letter from Paul Teague to F.L. Vanosdall ......  1298a
1970 Union Contract Proposals ............ „.............. 1300a



1967 Union Contract Proposals 
1964 Union Contract Proposals

jL308a
1316a

Report of the Hearing of the 6.17.70 Arbitration
Board Regarding the Discharge of J.J. Long ...............  1321a
Arbitrator Howard W. Wissner's Decision in 1967 ..........  1336a
7.24.70 Labor Agreement Between Defendants Goodyear 
and Local 347 (Same as Defendant Co's Exhibit at 896a)
7.13.71 Letter from B.A. Rossiki to Guy W. McCarty .......  1344a
10.29.71 Letter from V.R. Burch, Jr., to William
N. Wheat .................................................. 1346a
11.9.71 Letter from V.R. Burch, Jr. to William N.
Wheat ..................................................... 1347a

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T ITLE  OF CASE ATTORNEvs

R.L. JOHNSON, | For RU,»;,r.pHIIjLIp sx
VS ! Suite-500-711-MAIN

THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER CO. ; --HOUSTON , TKX-,— / 1002 CA-2-
SYNTHETIC RUBBER PLANT, jGabrielle K. MeDona
LOCAL 347,INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING ! Jr&34^outteHere--Bl-vd 

!Houston, Texas 770ENGINEERS, AFL-CIO (joined 10/19/71) | For Defendant: 3ak;er , foi
i Sherhhrd & Coates !

Burch. Jr..) "-r-r
j Houston, 2, Texas

BASIS OF ACTION:VIOLATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS, PERTAINING j
TO EMPLOYMENT PRACTICES, 1 William N. Wheat

715 Houston Citizen
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FILINGS—PROCEEDINGS

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9-17-69 COMPLAINT, filed in dup. 1 -d
n n SUMMONS ISSUED

0-3-69 SUMMONS RETD. & FILED (EXECUTED 9-24-69) ---.— 2

10/14/69 Deft.'s Answer. filed. 3-d hi 5
H_6-7oj Transferred to Judge C3rl 0. Bue, Jr
7_6_71 j (COB) Motion to substitute c ounsel and o-'der thereon filed.

I and order entered _____ _____________________ —
7-9-71 j Plaintiff's motion for continuance filed in duplicate____________j_

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1.0/14/71
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MOTXON o f  T n fp r n ^ t -  11 . Uni' o n  , e t c  . i n  C l  7 1 - 1 - 1 0 2 7  _________
Consolidation, filed. (Oral hearing 1Q/2S/71, requested)

.0/19/71 j "Plaintiff' s MOTION t.o Join as a Party Defendant, hocnl 347,

.0/20/71 :

International Union of Ooeratinq Engineers, AIT,-CTO, is 
-flPTUPThO-r"— ( o a r  L ie  •=—n o t i  f x n f t ;— rlo V ---------t o r n . ! .  • • . . . .  .  ,  ,  .  -Plaintiff's FIRST AMKNDKP COUPI.-AINT (lo.ininrr Tonal. 347, e~c)
filed. SUMMONS issued for service on C. R. lowrey,Jr.,Pres. 
) f \j< )(jri r— 3^7 , t-i 1:U J . UO V.O .I. . . .i q -06-71 jpeft. Memorandum :n Ounnort of Motion to Jisj'isŝ riled.

)/27/71 I (J V S )  0RDER_of CONSOLIDATION this case conr.o 1 idated_w 1th_
CA 71-H-1027, signed & filed. (Case to be carried under this 
-number- CTr 69-K-899) ~~(pa rtl e s~nbtlf ied by c/cT rTo)

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11/3/71 I Plaintiff1s Memorandum of Points and Authorities in Sunnprt_of_ 

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11-12-71

cn C.K.Lcwery,Jr. filed. 13
70-73. on Goodyear Tire 8:
T-nnorhll -riled. __l4._
filed in dunlicate 15 Y -Z i

's Appl. for Prelim. Inf. lo-d t i l
.n for Prelim. InJ. filed 17-d 7//
r nre 1 imiiiary injunction.

i:ut ju'i't.tn Evidence heard.
1? /l 5 / 7 11 Plaintiff's First. '£nterro,~atoi*1 es to Defendant Oocdyeo r Tire ft 

P.ubbf r Coi.it-ny _Pursnr nt to Mule_3.
r .e . r .T T  r r. * 1(COB) Order grant! 

''..-12-71 Pr.rtj.es notified 
!.!•• i >?! P‘rlt to serve cry
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12/13/71

FILINGS—PROCHCOINGS

1 Judge Bue.
CLERK ’S FEES A Mi'

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E MOLl.PLAINTIFF | DEFENDANT RCTli

Writ , Ret. & filed. Ex.52/ 11/22/71. 21.
Reporter's Transcript of Proceedings Before Judge Bue I f U >■
on N o vember 12, 1971> filed. 22.
P1aintlff1s Proposed Findings of Fact, filed. J ? 3 .

Deft .Goodyear Tire fc Rubber Co.'s Amended Answer filed,.._2U

AFL-CIO.Local Union No.34.7'a.Proposed Findings of.Fact and __
conclusions of Law, filed. - 25:__ Of,

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12/13/T1 Defendant The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.'s Proposed

Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Lav., filed. 26’ ‘7,, V/., /
12/13/71 Deposition of Paul Teague, filed. 1 27
12/13/71 Deposition of R. L. Johnson, filed. . 28
12/13/71 Deposition of Benjamin A. Rosinski, filed. 29
12/14/71 Defendant International Union of Operating Engineers'

Pre-Trial Memorandum, filed. 30 7/
12-15-71 Joint nretrial order filed 31 •1 *7// / /
12-15-71 (COB 1 Order first days hearing before the cou rt entenid
12-16-71 Order second days trial before the court entered
12-17-71

iOrder third days hearing before the court entered-
12-20-71 Order fourth days trial before the court entered (Coneluded )

Briefs to be filed by Jan. 17, 1972. Reply bpiefs to
be filed by Jan. 24, 1972.

12-20-71 Exhibits filed with case papers 32
1 /I 7/72 npfpndnnt fnir.nsnv ' s Post -Hearing Memorandum, filed 33 ?//
1/17/72 Defendant Union's Post-Trial Memorandum of Po Lnts and

Authorities, filed. __ ...
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1/17/72 Plaintiff's Post Trial Brief filed in Duplicato. _35 . :/-■/
1/27/J2 Defendant Comcnnv's Reply to Plaintiff's Post Trial. _ j

Brief, filed. . 3?._i._
1/27/72 Plaintiff's Reply to the Defendant Company's Post- j I 1

Bearin'.: Memorandum, filed. 37. • ' i 7 /
2/3/72 _

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Plaint iff(r. Motion. for_Speci f.lc_ Performance, J'/D.2/1,4/72. 38.. /•»

2/18/72. .Defendant Company's Reply in .CpF03iti.cn to Plaintiff '_s .'otio
for Specific Performance, filed. ..39-

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C LERK 'S  FEES AMOUNT 

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PLAINTIFF
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RETURNS

L 1 / 6 / 7 2 Plaintiff's Statement in Support of His Proposed Judp;me lit, file a .
1 - 2 0 - 7 2 (COB) Judgment filed & entered 7 6 '  ■'

(Injunction issued. Amount of money damages and attorney;;5
fees to be determined later. Defendant to pay co 3ts r

. 1 - 2 1 - 7 2 Parties notified
2 - 1 8 - 7 2 Plff (R.L.JOHNSON) Notice of Appeal, filed (Consolidated CA 7 1 - H - 1 0 2 7 )  ?£■ ‘1
1 - 1 8 - 7 2 Cost Bond on Appeal, filed. r > ,

- 2 9 - 7 2 Notice of Appeal on behalf of Deft GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER CO.,filed. V>7-
- 2 - 7 3 Notice of Appeal on behalf of INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING

ENGINEERS, filed. ! f U
2 - 7 - 7 3 (COB) Order extending time for filing record on appeal ,to March

2 8 , 1 9 7 3 ,  filed. (Copies to Ct. of Appeals, Attys & Ct.Reporter) r
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3 - 2 6 - 7 3 Reporter's Transcript of Proceedings, filed (3 vols) i  ' / t/ r- • £ ~ > :>/

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CIVIL DOCKET
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
. c. F o r m  k «, k »  Rw-Hovistfln Division -

CONSOLIDATED w>‘ CA 69-H-899 10/27/71 
and carried under 6 9-K-S99

Jury demand date:
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T I T L E  O F  C A SS

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CARL O. BUE

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A T T O R N E Y S

TERNATIONAL UNION OP OPERATING ENGINEERS, 
]>CIO, LOCAL UNION NO. 3'+7

:E GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY, HOUSTON 
'EMI CAL PLANT

For plaintiff:
WILLIAM II. WHEAT
715 Houston Citizens Bank Bldg.
Houston, Texas 77002 22i!-IGU!7

j) For defendant:
V. R. Burch Jr.

|j BAKER Z: BOTTS 
j ^COO One Shell Plaza 
Houston, Texas 77002

ST A T IS T IC A L . R E C O R D C O ST S j D A T E

1 1971-
S. 5 mailed Clerk 9-23 

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S. C mailed / ^ Marshal

'sir, of Action: Injunctive Docket fee
iteT, Breach of
llective Bargaining Witness fees
ntract, National Labor

KfISe &&. i Depositions

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P R O C E E D IN G S

-23-71 ! Original complaint, filed. (no service per a:.ty.)
-27-71 i (JVS) ORDER to Show Cause, setting hearing 10-26-71 at 9:30 a.m., 

j filed and entered.
-27-71 WRIT TO SERVE w/complaint and order issued on Goodyear Tire & 

Rubber Co., thru Personnel Mgr.
0- 14-7] MOTION FOR CONSOLIDATION, filed. (Original of motion filed in 

C.A. 69-I-I-399)
1-21-71 Deft. Motion to Dismiss Pltf. Complaint, filed.
i/27/71 (JVS) ORDER OF CONSOLIDATION, signed & filed. Consolidating this 

I case with CA 69-H-899 and carried under that number.
(parties notified by c/c, rlo) _________________________ _______

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11-12-71jI
.1-19-71
11-19-71;

(COB) Oral hearing on application for temporary injunction.
Evidence heard. _

(COB) Order granting temporary injunction filed & entered
Parties notified pursuant to Rule 77(d) FRCP

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Ll-19-71 
12/7/71|
12/9/71;
12-15-71I
12-15-71
12-16-71
.2-17-71
L2-20-7l!

Writ to serve copy issued and delivered to U.S.Maishal 
Reporter's Transcript of Proceedings before Judge Bue on November
12, 1971, filed(CA-59-H-899) , ^Plaintiff's Proposed Findings of Fact,filed.(Ca-69-H-o99)•
Joint pretrial order filed (in CA 69-H-899)
(COB) Order first days trial before the court entered
Order second days trial before the court entered 
Order third days hearing before the court entered
Order fourth days trial before the court entered (Concluded)

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I8-10-72: (COB) Memorandum opinion filed
8-11-72 Copies mailed to counsel

.1-20-72: (COB) Judgment filed & entered
(See Judgment for details. Injunction imposed November 19, 1971 
d i s solved. Defendant to pay costs)

.1-21-72' Parties notified
2-18-72 Notice of Appeal filed in C . A . 71-H--1027.

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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS

HOUSTON, TEXAS

R. L. JOHNSON

VS.
THE GOODYEAR T I R E .& RUBBER CO. 
SYNTHETIC RUBBER PLANT 
HOUSTON, TEXAS

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CIVIL ACTION NO. W

TO THE HONORABLE JUDGE OF SAID COURT:
I.

This action arises under Title VII of the Civil Rights 

Act of 1964, 42 U.S.C.A. Section 2000e-5 (f) et seq., as herein­

after more fully appears.
This action is also brought as a class action on behalf of 

the named complainant, and on behalf of the defendant's other em­

ployees who are similarly situated.
II.

Complainants are African-American (Negro) citizens of the 

United States, and at all material times were and still-are em­

ployees of Defendant employer at its plant in Houston, Texas.

III.
Defendant, a foreign corporation doing business in the 

Southern District of Texas, is an "employer" within the meaning 

of Title VII of the said Act of Congress in that, at all material 
times, it has been engaged in an industry affecting commerce and 

had had 50 or more employees for each working day in each 20 or 
more calendar weeks in the current or preceeding calendar year. 
Heretofore, Complainant filed charges before the Equal Employment 

Opportunity Commission alleging unlawful employment practices on 
the part of the Defendant, a copy of which charge was furnished to 

the Defendant by said Commission. Thereafter, said Commission 
made an investigation and determined that there is reasonable cause 

to believe that the said charge is true. Thereafter, the said
CLERK, U. S. DISTRICT COURT 

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS F I L E D
SEP 17 1969



Commission notified Complainant in writing that conciliation 

efforts on its part in the matter of the alleged unfair employment 

practices had failed to achieve voluntary compliance with said Act 

by the Defendant. This suit is filed within thirty (30) days of 

the receipt of such written notification by Complainant.

Attached to this complaint is Exhibit "A," which is a 

true copy of the decision of the said Equal Employment Opportuni­

ty Commission showing the decision of the Commission in the pro­

ceedings filed by Complainant against this Defendant, the docket 
number thereof and the date of such decision, reference to which 

is here made as if the same were set out verbatim in this Complaint. 
Likewise, attached hereto as Exhibit "B" is a true copy of the 

letter from said Commission to Complainant advising of the failure 
of conciliation efforts following determination of probable cause 
by the Commission.

The parties in said proceedings before the Commission 
are the identical parties in this cause.

IV.

Defendant, THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COMPANY, has inten­

tionally engaged in unlawful employment practices as defined in 

Title IV of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, Section 703 (a); U.S.C.A. 

Title 42, Section 2000e-2(a). It has not allowed complainants to 

transfer into its production department, and has required of them 

that they take a test not required of other employees that were 

hired when they were hired. It has further, and in the alterna­

tive, discriminated against Complainants while they were employed 

by the Defendant with respect to their conditions of employment 
because of the fact that they were African-Americans.

V.

Defendant has intentionally engaged in the unlawful employ­

ment practices charged before the Commission and in this Court.

To remedy such practices, Complainant prays that the Court grant 
appropriate relief by enjoining Defendant from engaging in such 

unlawful employment practices, by ordering appropriate affirmative

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action, including reinstatement and back pay, and such other relief 

as the Court may find appropriate to effectuate the policies of the 

Act, to make this Complainant whole and to correct and prevent the 

recurrence of such unlawful employment practices.
VI.

Complainants further pray for declaratory judgment, declar­

ing that the unfair employment practices and specific related 

conduct of defendant are violative of the said act of Congress 

as applied to complainant and to each member of the class similarly 

situated, to wit; each Negro employee of Defendant who is, or may 
be, subjected to identical or similar unlawful employment practices

VII.
Complainant brings this lawsuit at his own expense and has 

hired attorneys to prosecute this action and for enforcement of 
rights after exhaustion of the statutory procedure for voluntary 

compliance. Accordingly, Complainant prays for a reasonable 

attorneys1 fee as a part of the costs to be allowed by the Court, 

which Complainant alleges to be $35.00 per hour of work by such

attorneys.
WHEREFORE, Complainant demands judgment as prayed for here 

in, and for court costs and for such other relief as Complainant 
may show himself entitled.

By:

711 Main St. Suite 500 
Houston, Texas 77002 
CA2-6636

PHILH> .S 
Attorney

;r e e n e  ^
for Complainant

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CLERK, U. S. DISTRICT COURT
IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF THE UNITED STATSOUTHERN DISTRICT. OF. TEXAS

F I L E D
FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS

HOUSTON DIVISION

R. L. JOHNSON,
Plaintiff

VS.
THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER C0^ / ^ L , V,Q 
SYNTHETIC RUBBER PLANT, HOUSTON, TEXAS,

Defendant

OCT 1 4 1969
V. BAILEY THOMAS. C L ir x  

BY DEPUTY;

CIVIL ACTION 

NO. 6 9-H-899

A N S W E R

COMES NOW The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company and 

files this its original Answer to the Plaintiff's original 

Complaint and for such answer would show the following:

I.
FIRST DEFENSE

The Complaint fails to join as an indispensable 

party Local No. 347, International Union of Operating E n ­

gineers, AFL-CIO (hereafter called "Local 347"). Local 
347 is an unincorporated association which is the duly 
authorized bargaining representative of Plaintiff and all 

of the Defendant's other employees who are similarly class­

ified and situated. Defendant is a party to a collective 

bargaining agreement with Local 347 which sets forth the 

wages, hours and other terms and conditions of employment 
of the Plaintiff and of all of the Defendant's other employees 

who are similarly classified and situated. The claim asserted 

by the Plaintiff in this action involves the construction and 
application of such bargaining agreement and the relief appar­

ently sought would require that said bargaining agreement be 

modified or set aside and would affect the seniority and other 
employment rights of employees represented by Local 347 who 

are not parties to this action.

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SECOND DEFENSE

The Court lacks jurisdiction over the subject 

matter because the Complaint sets forth claims for alleged 

unlawful employment practices which were not set forth in 

such charges as were filed with the Commission by the 

Plaintiff as required by Section 706(e) of the Civil Rights 

Act of 1964, 42 U.S.C. §§ 2000e-l, et seq (hereafter referred 

to as the "Act").
III.

THIRD DEFENSE

The Court lacks jurisdiction over the subject 
matter and/or the Complaint fails to state a claim upon 

which relief can be granted, because the Plaintiff failed 
to exhaust contractural and/or administrative remedies 

against alleged discrimination available to him under the 

applicable collective bargaining agreement.
IV.

FOURTH DEFENSE
The Complaint fails to state a claim upon which 

relief can be granted as a class action because the Civil 

Rights Act does not authorize class actions, because no 

charges have been filed under Section 706(d) of the Act 

and the Commission has not endeavored to conciliate under 

Section 706(a) of the Act in behalf of the un-named em ­

ployees sought to be represented as a class, because the 

persons constituting the class are not so numerous as to 

make impracticable to bring them all before the Court, b e ­

cause the napied Plaintiff will not fairly insure the ade­

quate representation of all the class, and because the 

rights sought to be enforced for the class are several and 

the questions of law or fact affecting the several rights 

of the employees in the class are not common.

XX.

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Pleading further, if such be necessary, and sub­
ject to and without waiving the foregoing defenses, the
Defendant would show the following:

V.
Defendant admits that the cause of action allegedly 

arises under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 but, 
for the reasons stated above, denies this Court has juris­
diction of the Complaint.

V I .
Defendant admits the allegations in Paragraphs II 

and H I  of the Complaint except Defendant denies that 
R and E are relevant or material to this action and Defendant 
further denies that the parties to this action are identical 
to the parties in the proceedings t.fore the Equal Employment 
Opportunity Commission in that John h. Jones .as a party to 
those proceedings and is not a party to this action.

VII.
Defendant denies the allegations in Paragraphs IV,

V, and VI of the Complaint.
VIII-

Defendant is without knowledge concerning the Plain- 
tiff,s staining the services of Attorneys but denies that 
Plaintiff is entitled to Attorneys' fees as alleged 
graph VII of the Complaint and denies that the Plaintiff is 
entitled to any of the relief for which he prays.

IX.
Defendant would further show the Court that it is 

affirmatively committed to the principle and practice of 
affording equal employment opportunities to all of its e 
ployees without regard to race, color, religion, 
national origin, and that the terms and conditions of its

, . ,iff ic in full compliance withemployment with the Plaintiff is m  tui

the Civil Rights Act.

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As a result of the Plaintiff's action herein 

the Defendant has been required to retain the services of 

the undersigned Attorneys and the Defendant is entitled to 

recover reasonable Attorneys' fees under Section 7 0 6 (k) of 

the Act.

WHEREFORE, premises considered, Defendant prays 
that upon final trial and hearing hereof it have judgement 
that Plaintiff take nothing by his suit and that Defendant 
recover all costs of Court incurred, including reasonable 
Attorneys' fees, and that Defendant have such other and 
further relief both general and special, legal and equitable 
to which it may show itself justly entitled.

_____V . R. Burch, Jr.
1600 Esperson Building 
Houston, Texas 77002

Of Counsel:

BAKER, BOTTS,
SHEPHERD & COATES

Attorneys for The Goodyear 
Tire & Rubber Company.

PROOF OF SERVICE
I have served one copy of the foregoing original 

Answer by mailing the same to his attorney of record, Mr. 

Philip S. Greene, 711 Main Street, Suite 500, Houston,

Texas 77002.

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IN T H E  DISTRICT C O U R T  O F  T H E  U N I T E D  S T A T E S
CLERK, U

F O R  T H E  S O U T H E R N  DISTRIC'ScOfiHE

R. L. JOHN S O N ,

H O U S T O N  DIVISION

X

P l a i n t i f f

STRICT COURT 
^'ICT OF TEXAS 

F f L E  D

JUL 61371
V, BAILEY .THOMAS, CLERK 

BY DEP.UIYa ,  4^ / ___

v  s X CIVIL A C T I O N  NO. 69-H-899

T H E  G O O D Y E A R  TIRE & R U B B E R  X 
C O M P A N Y  S Y N T H E T I C  R U B B E R  
P L A N T ,  H O U S T O N ,  T E X A S  X

Defendant X

T O  T H E  H O N O R A B L E  J U D G E  O F  SAID C O U R T :

M O T I O N  T O  S U B S T I T U T E  C O U N S E L  

N o w  comes Philip S. Greene Attorney of Record for Plaintiff 

in the above styled and numbered cause and respectfully prays for 

leave of court to withdraw as said Attorney of Record. It is further 

requested that Gabrielle K. McDonald be henceforth designated Attorney 

of Record for Plaintiff.

1717 South Shepherd 
Houston, Texas 77019 
526-2131

« A L
Gabrielle K. McDonald 
1834 Southmore Boulevard 
Houston, Texas 77004 
523-7423

A P P R O V E D :

/s
K.1/ J O H N S O N ,
Plaintiff

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O R D E R

This day come on to be heard the foregoing Motion to Substitute 

Counsel. The Court being of the opinion that said motion should be 

granted it is therefore
O R D E R E D  that Philip S. Greene have leave to withdraw as 

Attorney of Record and he is hereby relieved of his duties as Attorney 

of Record. It is further O R D E R E D  that Gabrielle K. McDonald have 

leave to represent the Plaintiff and she is henceforth^ignated A t t ^ y

of Record for Plaintiff,

SIGNED. R E N D E R E D  A N D  E N T E R E D

. A - D • 1 9 n -

7 , A  . ______
J U D G E  P R E S I D I N G

A P P R O V E D :

Philip S. Greene 
1717 South Shepherd 
Houston, Texas 77019 
526-2131

kjLjJijib
I Gabrielle K. McDonald 
1834 Southmore Boulevard 
Houston, Texas 77004 
523-7423

Plaintiff

CLERK, 1). r>. DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS F I L E D

JUL £1971

V. BAILEY THOMAb. CLERK 
BY DEPUTY:



IN  T H E  U N I T E D  S T A T E S  DISTRICT C O U R T

F O R  T I I E  S O U T H E R N  D IS T R IC T  O F  C«® JEA teS. DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS 

F I L E DH O U S T O N  DIVISION
JUL 81971

R.L. J O H N S O N
Plaintiff, V. BAILEY THOMAS, CLERK 

BY DEPUP'

V S .

T H E  G O O D Y E A R  TIR E  & R U B B E R  
C O M P A N Y  S Y N T H E T I C  R U B B E R  
P L A N T ,  H O U S T O N ,  TEX A S ,

C.A. No. 69-H-899

Defendant. )

R E Q U E S T  F O R  C O N T I N U A N C E

T O  T H E  H O N O R A B L E  C O U R T :

Plaintiff R.L. Johnson respectfully requests this Court to postpone 

and continue the Pre-Trial and Trial of this cause and as grounds therefor

1. O n  June 24, 1971, a Motion To Substitute Counsel in this cause

was forwarded to the Court for filing,

2. Gabrielle K. McDonald, sought to be substituted as attorney of

record for Plaintiff has been advised by Philip S. Greene, present attorney 

of record for Plaintiff that the Court has scheduled a Pre-Trial in this cause 

for July 21, 1971;
3. Gabrielle K. McDonald has examined the file of this cause and 

notes that the Defendant contends that there has been a failure to join as an 

indispensable party Local No. 347, International Union of Operating Engineers,

4. Counsel sought to be substituted needs additional time to make 

a final determination of whether to join Local No. 347 as a party Defendant

5. Present counsel is not in a position to proceed with the prepa­

ration for trial of this cause in its present posture and needs additional time

shows:

AFL-CIO;

to this action;

to prepare.

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W H E R E F O R E ,  Plaintiff prays that the Pre-Trial and Trial of the

above entitled cause be postponed and continued.
Respectfully submitted,

M C D O N A L D  & M c D O N A L D  
1834 Southmore Boulevard 
Suite 203
Houston, Texas 77004 
523-74230 6 0 " i

t^  M . A .
tJABRIELLE K. M c D O N A L D

C E R T I F I C A T E  O F  S E R V I C E

The undersigned hereby certifies «... a copy of the foregoing Segues. 

For Continuance was served by mailing the same the attorney o, record 

,„r the Defendant, V.S. Burch, dr., B.her «. Botts, One Shell Blasa.Houston, 

Texas 77002 and Mr. Philips. Greene, 1717 S. S h e p h e r d  Drive,-Houston,

Texas 77019.

<’ g a b r i e l l e  k . M c D o n a l d

a ,
Done this 7 day of July, 1971.

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H O U S T O N  DIVISION
N

R. L. J O H N S O N ,  *
Plaintiff, I

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Trc, * C. A. No. 69-H-899VS. j

T H E  G O O D Y E A R  TIRE & R U B B E R  \
C O M P A N Y  S Y N T H E T I C  R U B B E R  *
P L A N T ,  H O U S T O N ,  TEXAS, *

Defendant. I

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PAULY IHO/.yV'l 

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M O T I O N  T O  JOIN P A R T Y  D E F E N D A N T  

T O  T H E  SAID H O N O R A B L E  C O U R T :

C O M E S  N O W ,  Plaintiff, R. L\ Johnson by and through his 

attorneys and files this Motion To  Join As A  Party Defendant, Local 347, 

International Union of Operating Engineers, A F L - C I O  and as grounds

therefor states the following: • ~
1. In a charge of discrimination dated M a y  4, 1967,

filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Plaintiff,

R. L. Johnson named as Respondents the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company, 

Houston Synethetic Rubber Plant and Local 347, International Union of 

Operating Engineers, AFL-CIO. (attached hereto and mad e  a part hereof 

as Exhibit A) In that charge, Plaintiff alleged that both these Respondents 

had engaged in practices which denied he and other Negro employees equal 

employment opportunities.
2. In a letter dated August 18, 1969, Plaintiff was notified 

of his right to institute a civil action within thirty days from receipt

of said letter by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, (attached

hereto and made a part hereof as Exhibit B)

3. On September 17, 1969, Plaintiff filed his Complaint

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naming as the only Defendant, the Goodyear Tire & Rubber C ompany 

Synthetic Rubber Plant. Thus, although he alleged in the charge which 

he filed with E E O C  that Local 347 had failed to give proper represent­

ation to Negro m e m b e r s  because of their race or color, he failed to 

join Local 347 as a party defendant.

4. Plaintiff's First A m e n d e d  Complaint attached 

hereto m o r e  fully delineates exactly those practices and policies of 

the Goodyear Tire &  Rubber Co m p a n y  and Local 347 which he believes 

denied he and other Negro employees equal employment opportunities 

because of their race or color. In summary, Plaintiff charges that 

Negroes who were employed in the Labor Department before there was 

a test requirement are now required to take and pass a test or tests to 

be eligible for transfer to another department; that white contemporaries 

hired in other departments have not been required to take and pass 

this test or tests; that upon transfer to another division, the Plaintiff 

who because of his race has in the past been restricted to employment 

in the Labor Department, will receive a new division seniority date 

and that promotions and lay-offs are based upon this new division 

seniority date notwithstanding his years of service as an employee with 

the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company; and that Local 347, International 

Union of Operating Engineers, A F L - C I O  has failed to represent Negro 

employees fairly because of their race or color and is a party to a 

Labor Agreement with the Goodyear Tire &  Rubber C o m p a n y  that 

denies Negro employees equal employment opportunities.

5. Because the.Plaintiff did not nam e  as a Defendant 

in his first Complaint Local 347 within thirty days from receiving his 

Notice of Right to Sue from E E O C .  Local 347, unless an agency relation­

ship with the Goodyear Tire &  Rubber Company can be shown, cannot 

be m a d e  a party defendant to this action pursuant to Title VII of the

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Civil Rights Act of 1964, 42 U. S. C. §2000e et seq. However, Plaintiff 

in his first amended complaint attached hereto, sets forth an additional 

jurisdictional basis in 42 U. S. C. §1981 which permits the Plaintiff 

to join Local 347 as a party defendant and challenge all practices and 

policies which have been maintained by these Defendants which have 

denied him and m e m b e r s  of his class equal employment opportunities 

because of their race or color.

6. Plaintiff is jointly asserting against said party 

sought to be joined as a party defendant his rights provided by 42 U. S. C. 

§1981 which have been violated by said party in the sa m e  transaction, 

occurrence or series of transactions or occurrences in which the 

named Defendant the Goodyear Tire &  Rubber Co m p a n y  has violated 

said rights.

7. A  question of law or fact c o m m o n  to these Defendants 

will arise in this action.

8. The party sought to be joined does business within 

the jurisdiction of this Court.

9. The joinder of all Local 347 will avoid the necessity 

of a multiplicity of suits.

10. The interest of justice will be served by permitting 

the joinder of Local 347.

W H E R E F O R E ,  for all the foregoing reasons Plaintiff 

prays that this Court order the joinder as party Defendant Local 347, 

International Union of Operating Engineers, AFL-CIO.

Respectfully submitted,

M C D O N A L D  & M C D O N A L D
1834 Southmore Blvd.
Houston, Texas 77004
523-7423

By: /)xd(' J
Gabrielle K. McDonald

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N O T I C E  O F  H E A R I N G  O N  M O T I O N  T O  JOIN 
--------- P A R T Y  D E F E N D A N T -

TO: V. R. Burch, Jr.
Baker & Botts 
One Shell Plaza 
Houston, Texas 77002 
Attorney for Defendant

Please take notice that the undersigned will bring the fore

going Motion To Join Party Defendant on for hearing before this 

Court at the United States Courthouse in Houston, Texas on the 

^ 7 ^  day n f ™ 1 at 10:00 a’m ‘ or 1

soon thereafter as counsel can be heard.

C E R T I F I C A T E  O F  S E R V I C E

The undersigned hereby certifies that a copy of the foregoing
and M e m o r a n d u m  of L a w  in support thereof

Motion T o  Join Party Defendant/was served by mailing the same to the 

attorney of record for the Defendant, V. R. Burch, Jr. , Baker & Botts,

One Shell Plaza, Houston, Texas 77002. .

'Gabrielle K. McDonald
lh

D O N E  this ____day of September, 1971.

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C H / ^ ° : E  c : =  ):m  xJ
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vi* you have a complaint, till in this form and mail it to t!v  Eijua! 
employment Opportunity Commission's Regional Oltice in your area 
as soon as possible. It must be mailed within 90 days alter the dis­
criminatory act took place. (See addresses on back page)

This form is to be usee.'only to tile a charge of discrimination b« 
on RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, or NATIONAL ORIGIN.

Case File No.

. /1 Your Name__
Street Address _U—r— J  - -J~- 
City'___ —

vPLEASE PRINT. OR TYPE) 
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/■ A  '  ■ .Phone Number..!

..State- _Zip Code.

2  WAS THE DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE OF: (Please check one)
Race or Color t* Religious Creed □  National Origin □  Sex Li

3  Who discriminated against you? Give the name and address of the employer, labor organization, employment agency and/or apprentices
Rubber Plantcommittee. If mo1: '  titan on \  list ail. , , .Ccoc/em* L̂i'w and Rubber Name__________________ i ----------------------------------

feet *h,w  La Porto Road. Post Office-. Zoa_53fg—
C ity . Kous ton _Z;p Code.
AND (other parties it any) Local 34?. Intô iovcont ~0

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4  Have you filed this charge with a state or local government agency? Yes □  When.

5  If your charge is against a company or a union, how many employees or members? Over 25 50 D Over 75 C

3  The most recent date on which this discrimination took place: Montn------Ap_ipJ,._26------D ay . _Year_i$u?_

7  Explain what unfair thing was done to you:
Tug Goodyear Company has a practice pR ux'radir.;* Ne/'roc
the wey the/ upgrade the v;hito employe
Is OigT'OGcJ t,C j o• .nemo ;iuv>
—te s-t—£o r-u pp r e c i_ n p *-— Vfe—be.__.ev c - thu.t~x.ne

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v.ny in which .evmiy._one cjui-.bc-troutud_ee.nlly.

Hie Union , 0d crating Engineers. enn 
;r representation 

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8  I swear or affirm that I have read the above charge and that it is true to the best c : my knowledge, information uno uene;.
Pate-Z /sfT ,.  </. . ___/ . v R ./ ___  I . p 4 . y , .

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Subscribed and sworn to betore me this________ _ / z _________________day o:-----—». p n  .. r /

iStjjn your name

;j
If it is difficult for you to get a Notary Public to sign this, sign your own name and mail to the Regional Oti.ce. The Commass.or. v .... r.elo “a 
get the form sworn to. ■J.S. OCVCR.SC.CNT PA. STAG -

E X H I B I T  A

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E Q U A L  E M P L O Y M E N T  O P P O R T U N I T Y  C O M M I S S I O N  
R E G I O N A L  O F F I C E  

300 E. Oth STREET 

AUSTIN. TEXAS 78701

A rea Code 5 I 2 
47S-501 1

August 18, 1969

CERTIFIED— RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
File No. AU7-5-3I1

Mr. R. L. Johnson /  ^ V  J>
4801 Leffingwell 
Houston, Texas

Dear Mr. Johnson:

This is to advise you that conciliation efforts in your case have failed to 
achieve voluntary compliance with Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Pursuant to Section 706(e) of the Act, you are hereby notified that you may, 
within thirty (30) days of your receipt of this letter, institute a civil action 
in the appropriate Federal District Court.

If you are unable to retain an attorney, the Federal Court is authorized, in 
its discretion, to appoint one to represent you and to authorize the commence­
ment of the suit without payment of fees, costs or security.

In such circumstances, should you decide to institute suit, you may take 
this letter, along with the Commission determination of reasonable cause to 
believe Title VII has been violated, to the Clerk of the Federal District Court 
nearest to the place where the alleged discrimination occurred and request that 
a Federal District Judge appoint counsel to represent you.

In the event you retain an attorney, or if one is appointed by the Court to 
represent you, w e  would appreciate being so notified. Please send to this 
office his name, address, and if possible, his telephone number. This will 
enable us to keep current with your case and to try to give the attorney any 
help he may request.

Please feel free to contact the Commission if you have any questions about 
this matter.

Sincerely

1,Lee G./Williams 
Regional Director

Enclosures EXHIBIT B
cc: Regular Mail



IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF THE UNITED STA'ifePK, U, £>• P^TRICf 6QURTSOUTHERN DISTRICT. OR .TEXAS

FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS F. I L £ D
HOUSTON DIVISION OCT 1 41971

R. L. JOHNSON §
§VS. §
§

THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER CO. §
SYNTHETIC RUBBER PLANT §
HOUSTON, TEXAS §

CIVIL ACTION NO. 69-H-899

INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATINGS 
ENGINEERS, AFL-CIO, LOCAL UNION §
NO. 347, §

§Plaintiff, §§ L
VS. § CIVIL ACTION NO. 71-H-1027

§
THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COM- §
PANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL PLANT, §

§
Defendant. §

MOTION FOR CONSOLIDATION

COMES NOW International Union of Operating Engineers, 

AFL-CIO, Local Union No. 347, Plaintiff in the above-captioned 

Civil Action No. 71-H-1027, and Co-Defendant in Civil Action No. 

69-H-899, by and through its undersigned attorney of record, and 

respectfully moves the Court pursuant to Rule 42 of the Federal 

Rules of Civil Procedure, to consolidate for all purposes the 
above styled civil actions and as grounds therefor would respect­

fully show unto the Court as follows:
I.

Each of the civil actions captioned above involve The 

Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company, hereinafter called the Company, 
and the International Union of Operating Engineers, AFL-CIO, Local 

Union No. 347, hereinafter called Union, the Company acting in its 

role as an employer, and the Union acting in its role as the 

collective bargaining representative for the employer's employees.

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Civil Action No. 69-H-899 originally involved only the Plaintiff,

R. L. Johnson, as representative of a class, and the Company, but 

thereafter the Union was impleaded. While R. L. Johnson and the 

class he represents, are not litigants in Civil Action No. 71-H-1027,

R. L. Johnson and the entire class will be and are now employees 

represented by the Union.
, II.

All litigants in the above-captioned civil actions are 

respectively represented by the same counsel.
III.

Both civil actions involve issues of fact and law arising 

under Federal statutes and Presidential Executive Orders governing 
employment practices for the purpose of eliminating racial discri­

mination .
IV.

The issues of fact in each of the above-captioned civil 

actions will and do involve essentially the same circumstances, to-wit: 

Civil Action No. 69-H-899 involves alleged discriminatory employment 

practices engaged in by the Company, and Civil Action No. 71-H-1027 
involves the Company's efforts to remedy such discriminatory practices. 

Further, the issues of fact in each civil action will essentially be 

the same even though Civil Action No. 69-H-899 involves Title VII of 

the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 42 U.S.C. 2000e-5(f), et se£, and 

Civil Action No. 71-H-1027 involves the right of the Company to 

abrogate vital collective bargaining contract provisions under 

color of authority of the Office of Federal Contract Compliance 

(OFCC) , of the United States Department of Labor.
V.

The Union urgently contends that any remedy flowing 

from litigation in either of these civil actions would of absolute 

necessity either encompass or contradict any remedy flowing from 

the other, and the Union would submit that separate litigation of 

these civil actions in separate District Courts of the United States 
would almost certainly be inimical to basic doctrines of jurisprudence.

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No party to either of the above-styled civil actions 

will be prejudiced, delayed, nor denied every relief sought, and 

consolidation will expedite judicial disposition of the entire 

controversy at a minimum of cost and time to all parties as well 
as the Court.

WHEREFORE, PREMISES CONSIDERED, the Union prays that the 
above-entitled actions be ordered consolidated for all purposes.

Respectfully submitted,

LAW OFFICES OF I$LLIAM N. WHEAT

William N. Wheat
715 Houston Citizens Bank Bldg.
Houston, Texas 77002
224-4447

Attorney for Local Union 347

V I .

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

I hereby certify that a true copy of the above and
foregoing Motion for Consolidation has been duly served upon 

✓  /th^fol^ot/ing by United States Mail on this the / j  day of
, 1971.

CERTIFIED M A I L :

Gabrielle K. McDonald 
McDonald & McDonald 
1834 Southmore Boulevard 
Houston, Texas 77004
F. L. Van Osdall 
Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company 
2000 Goodyear Drive 
Houston, Texas

WILLIAM N. WHEAT



ORDER ENTERED ON JU D G E'S CALENDAR

"Oct. 19, 1971: Plaintiff's Motion to Join as a Party 

Defendant, Local 347, International Union of Operating 

Engineers, AFL-CIO, is granted.

Clerk will notify counsel.

C.O.B.,Jr."



c l e r k , u. s . Dis t r ic t  c o u r t

F O R  T H E  S O U T H E R N  D IS T R IC T  O F  TEX8QUTHERN DISTRICT OR TEXAS
F I L E D

H O U S T O N  DIVISION OCT 2 J 1971

R. L. JOHNSON,
Plaintiff,

V. BAILEY 
BY. D.EfiU.T.Y.:

i
V S .

T H E  G O O D Y E A R  TIRE & R U B B E R  
C O M P A N Y ,  H O U S T O N  C H E M I C A L  
P L A N T ,  H O U S T O N ,  T E X A S  A N D  
L O C A L  347, I N T E R N A T I O N A L

C. A. NO. 69-H-899

FIRST A M E N D E D  COMPLAINT
I.

Jurisdiction of this Court is invoked pursuant to 28 U. S. C. 

§1343(4) and 28 U.S. C. §§2201 and 2202. This is a suit in equity 

authorized and instituted pursuant to §2000e - 5(f) of Title VII of the 

Act of Congress known as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U. S.C. 

§2000e et seq. ) and 42 U. S. C. §1981. Jurisdiction of this Court is 

invoked to secure the protection and redress the deprivation of rights 

secured by 42 U. S. C. §2000e et seq. , providing for injunctive and 

other relief against racial discrimination in employment and rights 

secured by 42 U. S. C. §1981 providing that all persons in every state 

and territory within the jursidiction of the United States shall have 

an equal right to mak e  and enforce contracts. This is also a suit for 

a declaratory judgment of the rights established under Title VII of the 

Civil Rights Act of 1964 and 42 U. S. C. §1981.

Plaintiff brings this action pursuant to Rule 23 (b) (2) of the 

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure on his own behalf, on behalf of other

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black persons similarly situated who are employed by the Goodyear 

Tire & Rubber Company, Houston Chemical Plant, Houston, Texas, who 

have been denied equal employment opportunities by the Defendants 

because of their race. These persons who are similarly situated are 

persons who have been subjected to the unlawful discriminatory practices, 

policies, customs and usages which have been instituted, maintained 

and/or acquiesced in by the Defendants as hereinafter m o r e  fully appears. 

The class is so numerous that joinder of all m e m b e r s  is impracticable; 

there are questions of law or fact c o m m o n  to the class, the claims and 

defenses of the Plaintiff are typical of the claims of the class so repre­

sented. The Defendants have acted on grounds generally applicable to 

the class thereby making appropriate final injunctive relief or corres­

ponding declaratory relief with respect to the class as a whole.

III.

This is a proceeding for a permanent injunction restraining the 

Defendants from maintaining practices, policies, customs or usages 

which discriminate against Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of his class because 

of their race or color with respect to employment, compensation, terms, 

conditions and privileges of employment and/or by limiting, segregating 

and classifying these persons in ways which deprive them of employment 

opportunities or otherwise adversely affect their status because of their 

race.
This is also a proceeding for a declaratory judgment that these 

practices, policies, customs or usages instituted, maintained and/or 

acquiesced in by the Defendants are violative of rights secured by Title 

VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and 42 U. S. C. §1981.

IV.

The n amed Plaintiff in this action is R. L. Johnson, a Negro citizen 

of the United States and resident of the City of Houston in the State of 

Texas. R. L. Johnson is presently employed by the Goodyear Tire &

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Rubber Company, Houston Chemical Plant.

V.
)The named Defendants in this action are:

A. The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company, Houston Chemical 

Plant (hereinafter referred to as the "Company") which does business 

in the State of Texas and the City of Houston, and is an employer 

within the meaning of 42 U. S. C. §2000e(b). The C o mpany is engaged 

in industry affecting c o m m e r c e  and employs more than seventy-five 

(75) persons.

B. Local 347, International Union of Operating Engineers,

A F L - C I O  (hereinafter referred to as the "Union") which does business 

in the State of Texas and the City of Houston and is a labor organization 

within the meaning of 42 U. S. C. §2000e-(d). The Union has m o r e  

than seventy-five (75) members, is engaged in an industry affecting 

comm e r c e  and exists in whole or in part for the purpose of dealing with 

the Company concerning grievances of some or all of employees 

including the Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of his class.

VI.

Prior and subsequent to July 2, 1965, the Defendants have in­

tentionally engaged in practices, policies, customs and usages made  

unlawful by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U. S. C. §2000e 

et seq. ) and 42 U. S. C. §1981 which deny Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of his 

class equal employment opportunities because of their race or color.

A. The Company has maintained a practice or policy of employ­

ing blacks only for jobs in the Labor Department regardless of qualifi­

cations. The Plaintiff was initially employed and presently occupies 

a job in the Labor Department. The Labor Department is monstly 

composed of the lowest paying jobs. The Defendant C o m p a n y  has instituted 

and maintained and the Defendant Union has acquiesced in a practice

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and policy which requires that employees in the Labor Department as 

a prerequisite to transfer must achieve a satisfactory score on certain 

tests or tests. This practice and policy as applied to black employees 

in the Labor Department employed before there was a requirement 

that any test or tests must be passed for initial employment for the 

departments which they now seek to transfer, denies them equal employ­

ment opportunities because white employees hired at about the same 

time as Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of his class, before there was a test 

requirement, are not subjected to this test or tests. On  information and 

belief, said tests are not professionally developed ability tests within the 

meaning of §703 (h) of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 42 U. S. C. 

§2000e-2(h), and their administration or action upon results are designed, 

intended or used to discriminate against Plaintiff and black employees 

similarly situated because of their race or color. White employees 

already employed with the Company before there was a test require­

ment in those departments to which Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of his class 

now seek to transfer are not required to achieve a satisfactory score

on these tests to remain on their job.

B. The Labor Agreement between these Defendants provides 

that a black employee who transfers from the Labor Department to 

another division will receive a new division seniority date as of their 

transfer and future promotions and lay-offs in that new division to which 

they transfer are based on that new division seniority date notwithstanding 

their accrued seniority in the Labor Department and notwithstanding the 

Defendants long-standing policy of not employing Negroes in departments 

other than the Labor Department because of their race.

C. Defendant Company instituted and maintained and the Defendant 

Union has acquiesced in a practice and policy of not permitting black 

employees in the Labor Department who do not possess a high school

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diploma or G. E. D. certificate the opportunity to take the test or tests as 

a prerequisite to transfer from the Labor Department to another depart­

ment. This practice and policy denied Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of his 

class equal employment opportunities, for it conditions transfer to the 

better paying jobs in other departments on possession of a high school 

diploma or G. E. D. certificate which was not reqired of whites at about 

the same time as Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of his class.

D. The Defendant Union has failed to represent fairly the Plaintiff 

and m e m b e r s  of his class because of their race or color.

E. The Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of the class he represents if 

given the requisite amount of training afforded similarly situated

white persons would be able to perform satisfactorily the jobs in the other 

departments of the plant of the C o mpany which have been denied them.

F. At all times material to this action, m a n y  of the matters 

regarding compensation, terms, conditions and privileges of employment 

of the Plaintiff and the class he represents have been governed and 

controlled by collective bargaining agreements and supplemental agree­

ments thereto entered into between the Defendants. Under and pursuant to 

these agreements, there has been intentionally designed a promotional and 

seniority system which has the effect of denying Plaintiff and the class he 

represents equal transfer, promotional and demotion opportunities 

because of their race or color in violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights 

Act of 1964 and 42 U. S. C. §1981, thus limiting them to the generally 

lower paying jobs in the Labor Department.

VII.

A. On or about M a y  4, 1967, within ninety days of the occurrence 

of the acts complained of, Plaintiff R. L. Johnson filed a written charge 

of discrimination, under oath, with the Equal Employment Opportunity 

Commission naming the Defendants herein as Respondents. In a letter 

dated August 18, 1969 from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission 

which Plaintiff received prior to the filing of his first complaint, herein.

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he was advised that he could institute a civil action in the appropriate 

Federal District Court within thirty days of receipt of said letter.

B. Neither the State of Texas nor the City of Houston has a law 

prohibiting the unlawful employment practices alleged herein.

VIII.
Plaintiff and the class of persons he represents have suffered 

and will continue to suffer irreparable injury by the practices, policies, 

customs and usages of the Defendants complained of herein until the 

same are enjoined by this Court. Plaintiff has no plain, adequate or 

complete remedy at law to redress the wrongs alleged herein and this 

suit for a permanent injunction and declaratory judgment are his only

means of securing adequate relief.

W H E R E F O R E ,  Plaintiff prays that this Court advance this case 

on the docket, order a speedy hearing at the earliest practicable date, 

cause this case to be in every way expedited and upon such hearing, to:

1. Grant Plaintiff a permanent injunction enjoining the Defendants 

and their agents, successors, employees and those acting in concert 

with them and at their direction from continuing to maintain the c o m ­

plained of practices, policies, customs or usages which discriminate 

against Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of their class because of their race with 

respect to employment, compensation, terms conditions and privileges

of employment and/or by limiting, segregating and classifying these persons 

in ways which deprive them of employment opportunities or otherwise 

adversely affect their status because of their race;

2. Order the defendants to take that affirmative action necessary 

to correct the practices, policies, customs and usages complained

of herein which discriminate against Plaintiff and m e m b e r s  of his class 

because of their race;

3. Grant the Plaintiff and the class Plaintiff represent a 

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complained of herein are violative of rights protected by Title VII of

the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and 42 U. S. C. §1981;

4. Grant the Plaintiff and each m e m b e r  of the class Plaintiff 

represent all wages lost as a result of the practices, policies, customs 

and usages maintained by the Defendants which have denied Plaintiff 

and each m e m b e r  of his class equal employment opportunities because

5. Plaintiff further prays that this Court will allow him his costs 

herein, reasonable attorney's fees and grant such further, additional 

or alternative relief as m a y  appear to the Court to be equitable and just.

of their race;

Respectfully submitted,

M c D o n a l d  &  M c D o n a l d  
1834 Southmore Blvd. 
Houston, Texas 77004 
523-7423

A T T O R N E Y S  F O R  P L A I N T I F F

By:
' G A B R I E L L E  K. M c D O N A L D
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CLERK, U. S. DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OE TEXAS

F I L E D
IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF THE UNITED STATES 0 CT 2 7  1971

FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS 

HOUSTON DIVISION

R. L. JOHNSON 

VS.
THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER CO. 
SYNTHETIC RUBBER PLANT 
HOUSTON, TEXAS

INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING 
ENGINEERS, AFL-CIO, LOCAL UNION 
NO. 347,

Plaintiff,

VS.
THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COM­
PANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL PLANT,

Defendant.

X CIVIL ACTION NO. 69-H-899
XXXX

XXXXX
XX CIVIL ACTION NO. 71-H-1027
XXXXX

O R D E R

On this day came on to be heard the Plaintiff's Motion 

for Consolidation, and it appearing to the Court that said civil 

actions should be consolidated, it is accordingly
ORDERED that the above-captioned civil actions are

hereby consolidated.
ENTERED this the £ L day of C rr> A ^ /€ . 1971.

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IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF THE UNITED S™ S  ̂  D|STR1CT C0Ul<r 
FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXASOUTHERN DISTR^TO F TEXAS

HOUSTON DIVISION N0V 1 U 1971

R. L. JOHNSON,
Plaintiff,

VS.
THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER 
COMPANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL PLANT, 
HOUSTON, TEXAS AND LOCAL 347, 
INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING 
ENGINEERS, AFL-CIO,

npfsndants.

V. BAILEY THOMAS,; CLERK 
BY DEPUTY:! _X X X X

l  CIVIL ACTION NO. 69-H-899XXXXXXXT

A N S W E R

COMES NOW Defendant. International Union of Operating 

Engineers, AFL-CIO, Local Union No. 347, hereinafter called Union 

and for answer to Plaintiff's First Amended Complaint in the 

above styled civil action, would respectfully show unto the Court 

as follows:
FIRST DEFENSE

As set forth in Paragraph VII, Subsection A of Plaintiff s 

First Amended Complaint, the Plaintiff R. L. Johnson on or about 

May 4, 1967, filed his charge pursuant to Title VII of the Civil 

Rights Act of 1964, 42 U.S.C. Sec. 2000, et se^, and thereafter, 

on August 18, 1969, the Plaintiff received the 30 days notice pro­

vided for in said Section, during which period of time Plaintiff 

was authorized to bring suit against either the Company or the 

Union. However, Plaintiff did not in fact seek to implead the 
Defendant Union until the filing of its Motion to Join Party Defendant

on or about September 15, 1971.
Subsection (e) of 42 U.S.C. 2000e-5 specifically provides 

that actions such as the one herein shall be brought within 30 days 

after the notification referred to above, of August 18, 1969.

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Accordingly, Plaintiff's suit against the Union is more than 
two years late and should be dismissed.

By way of further answer, should further answer be 
required, Defendant Union would respectfully show as follows:

I.
Defendant Union admits that the Plaintiff has properly 

characterized its suit and that the subject matter is one in 
which the jurisdiction of this Court may be invoked.

II.
Defendant Union neither admits nor denies the material 

allegations set forth in Paragraph II of Plaintiff's First Amended 
Complaint for the reason that such allegations relate to the 
Defendant The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company, Houston Chemical 
Plant, hereinafter called Company, and Defendant Union has no 
knowledge of such allegations. Defendant Union further denies 
that this suit is properly brought as a class action.

III.
Defendant Union admits that Plaintiff has correctly 

characterized this suit, but neither admits nor denies the material 
allegations in Paragraph III, because such matters are within the 
knowledge of Defendant Company and the Union has no knowledge of 
such allegations.

IV.
Defendant Union admits the material allegations set 

forth in Paragraph IV of Plaintiff's First Amended Complaint.

V.
Defendant Union admits the material allegations set 

forth in Paragraph V, Subparagraph A, of Plaintiff's First Amended 
Complaint.



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Defendant Union admits the material allegations set 
forth in Paragraph V, Subparagraph B, of Plaintiff's First 
Amended Complaint, subject to the First Defense heretofore stated.

VI.
Defendant Union denies the material allegations set 

forth in Paragraph VI, Subparagraph A, of Plaintiff's First 
Amended Complaint.

Defendant Union denies the material allegations set 
forth in Paragraph VI, Subparagraph B, of Plaintiff's First 
Amended Complaint.

Defendant Union denies the material allegations set 
forth in Paragraph VI, Subparagraph C, of Plaintiff's First 
Amended Complaint.

Defendant Union denies the material allegations set 
forth in Paragraph VI, Subparagraph D, of Plaintiff's First 
Amended Complaint.

Defendant Union denies the material allegations set 
forth in Paragraph VI, Subparagraph E, of Plaintiff's First 
Amended Complaint.

Defendant Union denies the material allegations set 
forth in Paragraph VI, Subparagraph F, of Plaintiff's First 
Amended Complaint.

VII.
Defendant Union admits the material allegations set 

forth in Paragraph VII, of Plaintiff's First Amended Complaint.

WHEREFORE, PREMISES CONSIDERED, Defendant Union prays 
that upon trial hereof, that Defendant Union have judgment in its 
behalf, together with all costs of Court and attorney's fees and

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such other and further relief, at law and in equity to which
it may show itself justly entitled.

Respectfully submitted,
WHEAT AND BARTLETT 
ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELORS

By William N. Wheat
715 Houston Citizens Bank Bldg.
Jefferson at Main 
Houston, Texas 77002 
224-4447

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I hereby certify that a true copy of the above and 

foregoing Answer has been duly served upon the following by 
Unite/ Statek Mail, postage prepaid, on this the Jf___  day of
Nmit+t mA -----  1971.

CERTIFIED M A I L :

Gabrielle K. McDonald 
McDonald and McDonald 
1834 Southmore - #203 
Houston, Texas 77004

V. Reagan Burch, Jr. 
Baker & Botts 
3000 One Shell Plaza 
Houston, Texas 77002

REGULAR M A I L :

Mr. Paul Teague 
Engineers Local 347 
P. 0. Box 1429 
Texas City, Texas 77591

WILLIAM N. WHEAT



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IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF THE UNITED STATES , . ' 1
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FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS 1 L  .:. ~J

HOUSTON DIVISION NOV 1 9 1371

R. L. JOHNSON,
Plaintiff,

VS.
THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER 
COMPANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL 
PLANT, HOUSTON, TEXAS AND 
LOCAL 347, INTERNATIONAL 
UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS, 
AFL-CIO,

Defendants

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

V. bailey thc:.:as, clerk
3Y. D-RUTYs

CIVIL ACTION NO. 69-H-899

INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING 
ENGINEERS, AFL-CIO, LOCAL UNION 
NO. 347,

Plaintiff,
VS.
THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER COM­
PANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL PLANT,

Defendant.

XXXXXX
X CIVIL ACTION NO. 71-H-1027XX -X X X

ORDER GRANTING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION

Be it remembered that on the 12th day of November, 1971, 

came on to be heard in the above styled and captioned consolidated 

cases, the application for a preliminary injunction presented by 
International Union of Operating Engineers, AFL-CIO, Local Union No. 

347, Plaintiff in Civil Action No. 71-H-1027, and Defendant in 
Civil Action No. 69-H-899, hereinafter called the Union, and came 

The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company, Houston Chemical Plant, Defendant 

in Civil Action No. 71-H-1027 and Co-Defendant in Civil Action No.

69-H-899, hereinafter called the Company, and came R. L. Johnson 

through his attorney, and upon hearing the pleadings, the evidence, 

and the argument of counsel in open court, and the Court being of 

the opinion that the temporary relief sought by the Union should 

be granted,
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I T  I S  HEREBY ORDERED t h a t  t h e  D e f e n d a n t ,  The G o o d y ear

Tire & Rubber Company, Houston Chemical Plant, and all others 
acting in concert or participation therewith, be, and hereby are, 
restrained and enjoined from unilaterally abrogating or breaching 
Article X, styled Seniority, of the collective bargaining contract 
now in force and effect between the Company and the Union, by 
instituting, effectuating, or continuing to effectuate any system 
of seniority other than that set forth in the collective bargaining 
contract now in force and effect between the parties, by any manner 
or means, until such time as these civil actions may be heard upon 
the merit of the cases, in open court.

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that this Order Granting Temporary
Injunction be served upon Defendant, The/Gool 
Company, Houston Chemical Plant, by a/United 
manner prescribed by the Federal Rules of Cif

ENTERED on this the
in Houston, Texas.

^/UNITED' STATES DISTRICT JUDGE

WILLIAM N. WHEAT, Attorney for 
the Union

V. REAGAN rtJURCH, JR., Attorney C' 
for the Company

GABRIELLE K. MCDONALD, Attorney
for R. L. Johnson

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R.

UNITED STATES 

FOR THE SOUTHERN 

HOUSTON

L. JOHNSON,

Plaintiff,

DISTRICT COURT „
C® K' u - S. DISTRICT COURT 

D IS T R IC T  OF TEXASTHERN D,STR,C'T OR TEXAS
F I  L E D
DEC 1 519 71

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DIVISION

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v - S CIVIL ACTION NO. 69-H-899

§THE GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER 
COMPANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL §
PLANT, HOUSTON, TEXAS, and 
LOCAL 347, INTERNATIONAL §
UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS,
AFL-CIO, §

Defendants. §

AMENDED ANSWER

COMES NOW, Defendant, The Goodyear Tire & Rubber 
Company, and files this its amended answer to Plaintiff's 

Complaint and for such answer would show the following:

I.
Defendant Company hereby answers by referring to 

Defendant Company's original answer to Plaintiff R. L. 

Johnson's original complaint, reference to which is here 

made as if the allegations in such answer were expressly 

contained herein with the inclusion of the additional 

defense below which is incorporated in Defendant's original 

answer. Attached to this answer as Exhibit A  is a true 

copy of Defendant's answer to Plaintiff's original complaint.

II.
FIFTH DEFENSE

.The Court lacks jurisdiction over the subject 

and/or the complaint fails to state a claim upon which relief 
can be granted with respect to the claim under the Civil 

Rights Act of 1866 (42 U.S.C. §1981) because Title VII of 

the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. §2000e-et seq.) 
affords an exclusive remedy for such action.

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WHEREFORE, premises considered, Defendant Company 

prays that upon final trial and hearing hereof it has 

judgment that Plaintiff take nothing by his suit and that 

Defendant Company go hence without day and with all costs 

of Court incurred and reasonable attorneys' fees herein, 

and that Defendant Company have such other and further relief, 

general and special, at law or in equity, to which it may 

show itself justly entitle^

was served on William N. Wheat, 715 Houston Citizens Bank 
Building, Houston, Texas 77002, and on Gabrielle K. 

McDonald, 1834 Southmore Boulevard, Houston, Texas 77004,

V. R. BURCH, JR. 
DANIEL O. GOFORTH 
3000 One Shell Plaza 
Houston, Texas 77002

Of Counsel:

BAKER & BOTTS 
Houston, Texas 77002

Attorneys for The Goodyear 
Tire & Rubber Company

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

I hereby certify that the foregoing Amended Answer

on this the 13th day of December, 1971.r, iy/x. 7̂

V. R. BURCH, JR.

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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT CCjlJR'̂  y s DISTRICT COUR:
SOU THERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS

FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS F I L E D  

HOUSTON DIVISION AUG 1019^2

R. L. JOHNSON, )
)

Plaintiff, )
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GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER )
COMPANY, SYNTHETIC RUBBER )
PLANT, AND INTERNATIONAL )
UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS, ) 
AFL-CIO, LOCAL UNION NO. 347, )

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Defendants, )

INTERNATIONAL UNION OF )
OPERATING ENGINEERS, AFL- )
CIO, LOCAL UNION NO. 347, )

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Plaintiff, )

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V. )

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GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER )
COMPANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL )
PLANT, )

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Defendant. )

V, BAILEY THOMAS. CLERK 
BY DEPUTY;.

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CIVIL ACTION 

NO. 69-H-899

CIVIL ACTION 

NO. 71-H-1027

Gabrielle K. McDonald, McDonald & McDonald, 
Houston, Texas, for plaintiff.

V. Reagan Burch, Jr., Daniel 0. Goforth, 
Baker & Botts, Houston, Texas, for defen­
dant Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.

William N. Wheat, Wheat & Bartlett,
Houston, Texas, for defendant Local 
Union No. 347.

MEMORANDUM OPINION

These two consolidated lawsuits were tried to the 

Court. The first action was instigated by a black employee 

against an employer and labor union and arises out of 

alleged racial discrimination in employment practices violative

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of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 42 U.S.C.

§ 2000e-2 and the Civil Rights Act of 1866, 42 U.S.C. § 1981.

The second action was commenced by the labor union against 
the employer to prevent a unilateral abrogation of the col­
lective bargaining agreement implemented by the employer 
allegedly to rectify a racially discriminatory provision in 
the collective bargaining agreement, but attacked here, not­
withstanding the first suit, as being violative of section 301 
of the Labor-Management Relations Act, 29 U.S.C. § 185.

In the first lawsuit, plaintiff, a black employee of 

Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company (Goodyear), seeks on behalf of 

other black employees similarly situated injunctive relief 

and back pay as a result of alleged racial discrimination in 

employment practices by Goodyear and Local 347, International 

Union of Operating Engineers (Local 347) in violation of Title 

VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-2 and 

the Civil Rights Act of 1866, 42 U.S.C. § 1981. Jurisdiction 

is invoked pursuant to 42 U.S.C. §§ 2000e-2(a), (c), 2000e-5 

(f) and 28 U.S.C. § 1343. Plaintiff contends that as a con­

sequence of the employment practices and collective bargaining 

agreement entered into by the defendants black employees have 

been in the past and continue to be segregated by  assignment 

to the labor department. It is further alleged that Goodyear's 

testing and high school educational requirements as well as 

the seniority provision in the applicable collective bargaining 

agreement serve to perpetuate this hiring discrimination.

In response to plaintiff's claim of racial discrimination 
defendant Goodyear, although apparently conceding past racial

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discrimination, contends that since 1962 it has not only 

Stopped any racially discriminatory practices but, in 

addition, it has employed an active program to recruit and 

employ black employees into non-labor department jobs. 

Specifically, it is asserted by Goodyear that blacks are no 

longer segregated in the labor department, that the testing 

and educational requirements, although abruptly abandoned on 

April 22, 1971, at the behest of the Office of Federal Contract 

Compliance, were employed solely to select the most qualified 

employees and not for any discriminatory purpose and that the 

seniority provision embodied within the collective bargaining 

agreement was negotiated in good faith and was not intended 

to discriminate against black employees. Defendant Local 347 

alleges that it is not a proper party, since it had no con­

trol over Goodyear's hiring and employment practices made the 

basis of this lawsuit.

In the second lawsuit. Local 347 seeks to enjoin Goodyear 

from unilaterally annulling the seniority provision, article X, 

of the collective bargaining agreement or, alternatively, to 

prevent the amendment of the article in such a manner so as to 

impose a seniority system that is patently discriminatory as 

to other employees in the applicable bargaining unit. Goodyear 

alleges that since it does substantial work for the government, 

it is subject to the regulations of the Office of Federal 

Contract Compliance of the United States Department of Labor.

In accordance with regulations promulgated pursuant to an 

Executive Order, Goodyear is required to abolish its allegedly

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discriminatory seniority provision in the collective bargaining 

agreement and substitute a provision which would give black 

employees who transfer out of the labor department whatever 

seniority they have previously acquired. On September 7,

1971, Goodyear openly announced that it intended to amend 

article X of the collective bargaining agreement and sub­

stitute a new seniority provision.

On November 19, 1971, this court preliminarily enjoined 

Goodyear from abrogating the seniority provision. The Court 

took this course of action after reviewing the anti-injunction 

section of the Norris-LaGuardia Act, 29 U.S.C. § 101, in con­

junction with section 301 of the Labor-Management Relations 

Act, 29 U.S.C. § 185, and thereupon concluding that the state 

of the law with respect to enjoining employers from abrogating 

a collective bargaining agreement was unclear. Under the cir- 

• cumstances the Court chose to resolve the question on general 

principles of equity and, accordingly, ordered the status quo 

maintained pending trial on the merits of the two causes of 

action. S p p  Retail Clerks Union Local 1222 v. Alfred M. Lewis^ 

Inc., 327 F .2d 442 (9th C i r . 1964); Local Union No. 328 v.

Armour & Co., 294 F. Supp. 168 (W.D. Mich. 1968). See also 

Annot., 16 L.Ed.2d 1143 (1967). Local 347 stipulated at the

_____  hearing on the motion for preliminary injunctive relief that

any disposition of the first lawsuit, including any Court 

ordered change in the seniority provision of the collective 

bargaining agreement, would be dispositive of its prayer for 

relief in the second action. Such a stipulation serves to 

simplify the task of this Court in resolving the issues contained 

in these two consolidated lawsuits.

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I.
, Factual Background

A. The Company and Union

Goodyear's Houston plant which is devoted exclusively 

to the production of synthetic rubber was operated for the 

United States Government from 1943 to 1955. In 1955 Goodyear 

assumed ownership of this plant and thereafter has continuously 

operated the plant in a private capacity. In 1957 when Goodyear 

undertook to expand the plant's facilities, a rule was imposed 

requiring that any applicant for employment to any non-labor 

department and any employee seeking a transfer to any non­

labor department possess a high school education or its 

equivalent, and achieve a satisfactory score on certain tests, 

primarily an adaptability test prepared by Science Research 

Associates.

Goodyear as the employer and Local 347, which has 

represented the production and labor department employees at 

this plant in contract negotiations since 1943, have employed 

through the collective bargaining agreement a form of depart­

mental seniority system at this plant. An employee, pursuant 

to this system, began accumulating seniority in a department 

upon entering it and thereafter utilized such accrued seniority 

withirr this departmental group when moving between job assign­

ments, when layoffs occurred and in other instances in which 

seniority was a controlling factor. However, there has never 

been any established procedure for transferring seniority 

from one department to another. Before July 24, 1970, trans­

ferring employees retained their seniority in the former

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department for two years. Since July 24, 1970, a transferring 

femployee, although unable to transfer his previously accrued 

seniority to the new department, has been able to retain 

seniority in the former department indefinitely.

As a result of Goodyear's employment hiring practices 

it is an undisputed fact that until July 14, 1962, black 

applicants seeking employment at the plant were segregated 

into the labor department, and until September 7, 1965, white 

applicants were funneled away from the labor department. It 

is also undisputed that the employment positions in the labor 

department were composed of the least skilled and lowest paid 

positions in the applicable bargaining unit at this plant.

In 1962 Goodyear became involved in the Plans for Progress 
Program, a voluntary program created for the purpose of improving 
employment opportunities for minority groups. Thereafter, 
Goodyear undertook to employ minorities in all departments of 
the plant. Procedures were established whereby black employees 
in the labor department could request transfers to other depart­
ments if they could satisfy the educational and testing require­
ments. Further, on three occasions Goodyear, at the behest 
of the OFCC, offered to relax the educational and testing 
requirements as applied to labor department employees. First, 
in 1968 all employees hired in the labor department prior to 
1957 were given the opportunity to transfer to other depart­
ments if they had attained a seventh grade education and 
were able to achieve a satisfactory score on the tests. No 
affirmative results were obtained, since no minority group 
employee was able to pass the tests. Second, in 1969 the same

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group was given the opportunity to transfer without taking 

the tests. However, in view of the distinct disadvantage 

incurred when transferring, whereby accrual of seniority in 

the new department for transferring employees only commenced 

on the date of transfer, little success was attained in 

placing blacks in departments other than the labor depart­

ment. Four employees were eventually transferred. Finally, 

after the educational and testing requirements were abolished 

on April 22, 1971, labor department employees hired prior to 

September 7, 1965, were given the opportunity on September 7, 

1971, to transfer without satisfying the educational or testing 

requirements and, most importantly, to carry with them their 

labor department seniority.

B. The Plaintiff

The plaintiff, a high school graduate, was initially 

employed by Goodyear in the labor department on September 18, 

1944. After submitting an application for employment and 

without taking any type of employment test, he was assigned 

to that department where he continued to work as a laborer.

At no subsequent time has this employee ever taken the employ­

ment tests made the subject of this lawsuit.

On May 4, 1967, plaintiff filed a charge of racial dis­

crimination against Goodyear and Local 347 with the Equal 

Employment Commission (EEOC) alleging racial discrimination 

in that Goodyear "has a practice of upgrading Negroes in one 

manner and the way they upgrade the white employees [is] dif­

ferent" and that this particular employer administers tests

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unfairly. It was also charged that the union. Local 347, 

acquiesced in these discriminatory practices and failed to 

represent black employees fairly. After an investigation the 

EEOC concluded that reasonable cause did exist to believe 

that Goodyear violated the Civil Rights Act of 1964 by dis- 

criminatorily applying its testing requirements. However, 

this investigative agency concluded that there was insufficient 

evidence to properly determine if Local 347 had also employed 

discriminatory practices violative of the Act. After efforts 

at conciliation failed, plaintiff filed this action pursuant 

to Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, initially naming 

Goodyear as the sole defendant. Approximately two months 

prior to trial this Court granted plaintiff's unopposed motion 

to join Local 347 as a defendant pursuant to the Civil Rights 

Act of 1866, 42 U.S.C. § 1981. The amended complaint, in 

addition to naming Local 347 as a defendant, alleges that 

Goodyear's discriminatory practices are violative of both 

Civil Rights Acts.

II.

Defendants' Preliminary Contentions 

Preliminarily, defendants have asserted three con­

tentions in an attempt to forestall or whittle down the 

significance of plaintiff's action.—  First, it is asserted 

that the action must be dismissed since an indispensable 

party. Local 347, was not joined as a party defendant within 

the statutory period prescribed by Title VII of the Civil 

Rights Act of 1964 and that the latter Act is the exclusive 

remedy for determining racial discrimination in employment

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practices. This contention pertains to a recently litigated 

issue in this Circuit: the interrelation of the remedies

under two separate statutes. Title VII of the Civil Rights 

Act of 1964 and the Civil Rights Act of 1866. Second, it is 

asserted that the only issue litigable in this lawsuit is the 

propriety of the testing procedures inasmuch as that was the 

only issue stated in the EEOC charge. Third, it is asserted 

that the scope of the class action maintainable by plaintiff 

must be limited to black employees hired in the labor depart­

ment prior to 1957 who satisfied the educational requirements.

A. Employment Discrimination: Title VII of the
Civil Rights Act of 1964 vs. The Civil Rights

_____Act of 1866__________________________________________

Defendants contend that the remedy provided for in 

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 42 U.S.C. § 2000e, 

is the exclusive cause of action for racial discrimination in 

employment. The argument is thus made that, inasmuch as an 

indispensable party. Local 347, was not joined as a party within 

the statutory period prescribed by Title VII, this action is 

not maintainable. Such a theory of statutory construction 

based on the proposition that Title VII preempts previous 

remedies for discrimination in employment has recently been 

stripped of its viability in this Circuit. Indeed, it has 

been held that the Civil Rights Act-of 1866, 42 U.S.C. § 1981, 

applies to racial discrimination in employment, and the remedies 

provided for in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, in 

this regard, have been construed as a mere continuation of the 

remedies provided for in the earlier Act. Caldwell v. National

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Brewing Co.. 443 F.2d 1044 (5th Cir. 1971), cert, deni e d , 405 

U.S. 916 (1972); Sanders v. Dobbs Houses, Inc., 431 F.2d 1097 

(5th Cir. 1970), cert, deni e d , 401 U.S. 948 (1971).

In Sanders the plaintiff, after exhausting the EEOC 

administrative procedures, but after the expiration of the 

thirty day jurisdictional period, filed a civil action pur­

suant to Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. After 

defendant sought to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction, plaintiff 

was able to state a cause of action by predicating jurisdiction 

upon the Civil Rights Act of 1866, 42 U.S.C. § 1981. In 

Caldwell the plaintiff chose not to pursue the EEOC administrative 

procedures, but instead filed a civil action pursuant to the 

Civil Rights Act of 1866. The Court after approving of the 

mutuality of the remedies encompassed within the two Acts 

concluded that in this instance "due regard [must be given] 

to the conciliatory policy which is at the heart of Title VII 

while at the same time preserving the full remedy of § 1981."

443 F .2d at 1046. The Court referred to the power of the EEOC 

to assist in the conciliatory process pursuant to Title VII, 

as being applicable to an action under the Civil Rights Act 

of 1866. It was also suggested that Title VII conciliatory 

procedures should be resorted to as a matter of policy in 

actions brought pursuant to the Civil Rights Act of 1866, 

either with or without the trial court granting preliminary 

injunctive relief to maintain the status quo. The Court 

indicated that "[s]uch an approach melds the Title VII policy 

into the § 1981 remedy." 443 F.2d at 1046. See Young v. 

International Telephone & Telegraph Co., 438 F. 2d 757 (3d

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Cir. 1971); Waters v. Wisconsin Steel Works of International 

Harvester Co., 427 F.2d 476 (7th Cir.), ce r t . denied, 400 

U.S. 911 (1970). In the instant case, it is this Court's 

conclusion that the policy condemning racial inequality in 

employment can be best promoted by providing a remedy pursuant 

to the Civil Rights Act of 1866. This approach is viewed as 

being entirely consistent with the policy of Title VII, inas­

much as the EEOC administrative procedures have been exhausted 

as to both defendants.

B. Scope of the Litigable Issues as Related to
_____the EEOC Charge___________________________________

Next, Goodyear contends that the only issue properly 
before the Court is the propriety of the testing procedure.
It is urged that this is the only allegation presented in 

plaintiff's initial charge to the EEOC. In Sanchez v.

Standard Brands, Inc., 431 F.2d 455 (5th Cir. 1970), the 

permissible scope of a complaint pursuant to Title VII of 

the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was stated to be limited "to 

the 'scope' of the EEOC investigation which can reasonably 

be expected to grow out of the charge of discrimination."

431 F.2d at 466. The scope of the EEOC charge is to be liberally 

construed. Danner v. Phillips Petroleum Co., 447 F.2d 159 

(5th Cir. 1971). It is apparent that the above standard 

requires a reasonable relevancy between the EEOC charge in 

conjunction with the EEOC investigation and the scope of the 

civil action. Here, plaintiff's allegation of discrimination 

before the EEOC that "[t]he Goodyear Company has a practice 

of upgrading Negroes in one manner and the way they upgrade

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the white employees [is] different" and that Local 347 has 

failed to represent black employees fairly is reasonably 

relevant to defendants' allegedly discriminatory seniority 

system including the disputed educational and testing require­

ments .

C. Scope of the Class A c t i o n .

Defendants next contend that the scope of the class 

which plaintiff can properly represent pursuant to Rule 23 

(b)(2), Fed. R. Civ. P., must be limited to those black 

employees who meet the educational requirements and were hired 

in the labor department prior to 1957, except as to the matter 

of change in the seniority system which Goodyear contends 

should apply to a class composed of all blacks employed in 

the labor department prior to September 7, 1965. On the other 

hand, plaintiff contends that the class should be composed of 

all black employees in the labor department who have been dis­

criminated against since July 2, 1965, because of the practices 

alleged in the complaint.

This Circuit has repeatedly emphasized that racial 

discrimination is by its very nature a class action for 

similarly situated fellow employees. Jenkins v. United Gas 

Corp., 400 F.2d 28, 33 (5th Cir. 1968). Thus, a class action 

— is permissible, even though only one of its members has

presented a grievance to the EEOC. Oatis v. Crown Zellerbach 

Corp., 398 F.2d 496 (5th Cir. 1968). Measuring this suit 

against the legal standards contained in these decisions, it 

appears to this Court that plaintiff has satisfied the require­

ments of Rule 23(a), Fed. R. Civ. P., for a class action.

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Further, since "the party opposing the class has acted or 

refused to act on grounds generally applicable to the class", 

the class action requirements of Rule 23(b)(2), Fed. R. Civ.

P., are also satisfied. See Rowe v. General Motors Corp., 457 

F.2d 348, 359-60 (5th Cir. 1972); Johnson v. Georgia Highway 
Express, Inc., 417 F.2d 1122 (5th Cir. 1969); Jenkins v.
United Gas Corp., supra; Oatis v. Crown Zellerbach Corp., 

supra; Griggs v. Duke Power C o ., 420 F.2d 1225 (4th Cir. 1970), 

r e v 1d on other grounds, 401 U.S. 424 (1971); Broussard y. 

Schlumberger Well Services, 315 F. Supp. 506 (S.D. Tex. 1970); 

Hicks v. Crown Zellerbach Corp., 49 FRD 184 (E.D. La. 1968).

See also Annot., 8 ALR Fed. 461.(1971). The proper class for 

purposes of this lawsuit, as this Court views it after having 

examined and weighed the evidence forthcoming at the trial, is 

one composed of all black employees similarly situated to 

plaintiff who were hired in the labor department and who have 

been discriminated against as a result of defendants' employ­

ment practices alleged in the complaint.

III.

The Discriminatory Hiring Practices 

The purpose of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 

1964 in outlawing discrimination in employment "was to achieve 

equality of employment opportunities and remove barriers that 

have operated in the past to favor an identifiable group of 

white employees over other employees." Griggs v. Duke Power 

C o ., 401 U.S. 424, 429-30 (1971). Accordingly, the Act prW*- 

hibits all forms of racial discrimination, regardless of the 

degree or the employment situation involved. Local 189,

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United Paper-makers and Paperworkers v. United States, 416 F.2d 

980 (5th Cir. 1969), ce r t . deni e d , 397 U.S. 919 (1970). The 

Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has taken a particularly strong 

stand in condemning this form of inequality among citizens:

This Court has continuously given 
a wide scope to the act in order to 
remedy, as much as possible, the 
plight of persons who have suffered 
from discrimination in employment 
opportunities. We have described 
this as "one of the most deplorable 
forms of discrimination known to our 
society, for it deals not with just 
an individual's sharing in the 'outer 
benefits' of being an American citizen, 
but rather the ability to provide 
decently for one's family in a job or 
profession for which he qualifies or 
chooses.”

Rowe v. General Motors Corp., 457 F.2d 348, 354 (5th Cir. 1972). 

The scope of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, 42 U.S.C. § 1981, 

in racial employment discrimination cases is similarly to be 

liberally construed. See Caldwell y. National Brewing Co.,

443 F.2d 1044 (5th Cir. 1971), cert, denied, 405 U.S. 916 (1972) 

Young v. International Telephone & Telegraph C o . , 438 F.2d 757 

(3d Cir. 1971). See also Jones v. Alfred H. Mayer C o . , 392 

U.S. 409 (1968). It is in this light that the evidence forth­

coming at the trial of this lawsuit must be viewed.

Plaintiff presented undisputed evidence that black 

applicants for employment were hired solely for the unskilled 

labor department jobs until July 24, 1962. This constituted 

an obvious disparity in employment opportunities for black 

applicants. Plaintiff also presented evidence that from 1957 

to the present time only five percent of the total applicants 

at the Goodyear plant have been initially employed into the

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labor department, whereas 48 percent of all black applicants
1/have been employed initially in the labor department.

Goodyeap, while admitting a history of past discrimination, 

asserts that it is not involved in any present discriminatory 

hiring practices and that it has not so engaged since early 

1962. This defendant, accordingly, disputes the accuracy of 

the plaintiff's statistics. Goodyear's position is that 

plaintiff's statistics are of doubtful validity, since they 

fail to take into consideration the important fact that all 

new applicants employed at the Goodyear plant after April,

1971, are initially placed into the labor department as a matter 
of policy. Goodyear argues that these.statistics are, there­
fore, misleading, inasmuch as a significant number of black 
employees were hired after April, 1971, who will accrue within 
a short time span sufficient seniority to transfer to non-labor 
department jobs. More importantly, Goodyear counters plain­
tiff's contentions through use of its own statistics to demon­
strate that from January 1, 1962, to December 12, 1971, over
32 percent of all employees transferred or hired into non-labor

2/department jobs have been black employees. According to
Goodyear, this employment picture in conjunction with the fact 
that the Houston area is composed of approximately 24 percent 

-blacks, 8 percent Spanish-Americans and 68 percent whites
. . .  3/refutes plaintiff's statistical evidence of discrimination.

It is clear from the authorities that a substantial 
disparity in valid racial employment statistics serves to 
establish a prima facie case that race was a significant 
factor in an employer's hiring practices. Rowe v. General

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Motors c orp., 457 F.2d 348 (5th Cir. 1972). Once such 

disparity is persuasively demonstrated, the burden of proof 

is then placed upon the employer to come forward with 

acceptable reasons to refute the case of racial discrimination. 

In this regard, "mere conclusional statements that it had 

never discriminated against Negroes in [its] hiring" practices 

will clearly not suffice. Bing v. Roadway Express. Inc.. 444 

F.2d 687, 689 (5th Cir. 1971) . However, in the application 

of this broad legal standard to the facts of this case including 

relevant time period, the Court finds extreme difficulty 

in ascertaining from the record what plaintiff characterizes 

as proof of a prima facie case of hiring discrimination 

extending beyond July 2, 1965. In short, the statistical

presented and heavily relied upon by plaintiff for 

this time period is convincingly rebutted by the statistical 

evidence presented by Goodyear. Accordingly, the Court con­

cludes that plaintiff has failed to make out a prima facie 

case, since for all practical purposes there is no significant 

or persuasive evidence that the discriminatory hiring practice 

extended beyond July 2, 1965. Of course, any evidence indicative 

of discrimination prior to July 2, 1965, is not relevant to 

plaintiff's present claim of hiring discrimination. This is 

so because, clearly. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 

1964 does not provide a remedy for discriminatory hiring 

practices occurring prior to July 2, 1965, the date the Act 

became effective. Additionally, the applicable statute of 

limitations has expired as to any discriminatory hiring practice 

occurring prior to July 2, 1965, relevant to any cause of action 

plaintiff might have under the Civil Rights Act of 1866. ^

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I V .

The Discriminatory Promotion 
And Transfer Practices

p  ̂ The Testing and Educational Requirements

The absence of persuasive proof of overt racial d i s ­

crimination in hiring after July 2, 1965, does not terminate 

the Court's scrutiny of Goodyear's employment practices.

Congress has required "the removal of artificial, arbitrary 

and unnecessary barriers to employment when the barriers operate 

invidiously to discriminate on the basis of racial or other 

impermissible classification." Griggs y. Duke Power C_o._, 401 

U.S. 424, 431 (1971). The Court in the.Griggs case indicated 

that " [u]nder the Act, practices, procedures, or tests neutral 

on their face, and even neutral in terms of intent, cannot be 

maintained if they operate to 'freeze' the status quo of prior 

discriminatory employment practices." 401 U.S. at 430. Further

it was stated that:

The Act proscribes not only overt 
discrimination but also practices 
that are fair in form, but dis­
criminatory in operation. The touch­
stone is business necessity. If an 
employment practice which operates 
to exclude Negroes cannot be shown 
to be related to job performance the 
practice is prohibited.

401 U.S. at 431.

Three factors should be considered in ascertaining if 

practices which are discriminatory in operation are rooted 

in overriding legitimate business necessity and therefore not 

violative of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

First, the practice must be shown to be significantly related

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to successful job performance. Second, the practice must not 

operate to disqualify a substantially higher rate of minority 

group applicants than white applicants. Third, in making 

this determination it is significant if the employment 

positions under scrutiny had formerly belonged to non-minority 

group employees in accordance with a long standing discriminatory 

practice. Rowe v. General Motors Corp., 457 F.2d 348, 354-55 

(5th Cir. 1972).

1. Black Employees Hired Prior to 1957
Initially, it is obvious that the non-EEOC validated

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testing and educational requirements could not validly be 

applied to black employees hired in the labor department prior 

to 1957, the year of the adoption of these employment and 

transfer criteria, when fellow white employees hired at the 

same time were not obligated to satisfy the requirement. . •

This is clearly an instance of racial discrimination in opera­

tion. Griggs y. Duke Power Co., 420 F.2d 1225 (4th Cir. 1970), 

r e v 'd on other grounds, 401 U.S. 424 (1971). The effect of 

utilizing these requirements was to lock into the labor depart­

ment those employees who were segregated initially into that 

department as a result of racially discriminatory hiring 

practices. United States v. Bethlehem Steel Corp., 446 F.2d 

652 (2d Cir. 1971); Broussard v. Schlumberger Well Services,

315 F. Supp. 506 (S.D. Tex. 1970). The total effect of these 

requirements was to preclude black employees from ever attaining 

the equivalent seniority status and commensurate employment 

advantages that white employees who were employed at the same 

time could attain. Robinson v. Lorillard Corp., 444 F.2d 791 

(4th Cir.), cert, dismissed, 404 U.S. 1006 (1971).

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2. Black Employees Hired After 1957 

With reference to black employees who were hired in 

the labor department after 1957 and after the adoption of the 

non-EEOC validated employment and transfer criteria, there is 

a significant disparity in plaintiff’s proof of the discrimina­

tory effects of the educational and testing requirements. As 

to the educational requirement, plaintiff has established dis­

crimination in operation, since this requirement disqualifies

black applicants at a substantially higher rate than white
6/applicants. Goodyear has not seriously attempted to justify

this practice by showing an overriding legitimate business

necessity. However, with regard to the testing requirement
and its application to these employees, the plaintiff has

clearly failed to sustain his burden of proof. The evidence

presented by plaintiff fails to indicate that the testing

requirement disqualifies black applicants at a substantially
7/ . 'higher rate than white applicants. Accordingly, the Court

finds for the defendants on the testing requirement.
B. The Racially Neutral Seniority System 

Turning now to plaintiff's attack upon defendants' 

alleged racially neutral but prohibited seniority system, it 

was stated in Local 189, United Papermakers and Paperworkers 

v. United States, 416 F.2d 980, 982-83 (5th Cir. 1969), cert, 

denied, 397 U.S. 919 (1970), that "one of the most perplexing 

issues troubling the courts under Title VII [is] how to recon­

cile equal employment opportunity today with seniority expec­

tations based on yesterday's built-in racial discrimination."

It is the law that a racially neutral seniority system

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predicated upon past hiring racial discrimination is violative 

of Title VII. Accordingly, the Court in Local 189 indicated 

that:

It is not decisive therefore that a 
seniority system may appear to be 
neutral on its face if the inevitable 
effect of tying the system to the past 
is to cut into the employees present 
right not to be discriminated against 
on the ground of race. The crux of 
the problem is how far the employer 
must go to undo the effects of past 
discrimination.

416 F.2d 988. In other words, if a neutral seniority system 

has the effect of perpetuating past hiring discrimination to 

a significant extent, then the employer is under an affirmative 

duty to implement corrective procedures to rectify this con­

tinuing wrong.

The seniority transfer system employed by Goodyear, 

and acquiesced in by Local 347, had the effect of locking 

into the labor department the black employees who were initially 

segregated on a racially discriminatory b a s i s . In order to 

transfer to a non-labor department job, a black employee had 

to forfeit his previously earned seniority rights in the labor 

department. As a result of this system, white applicants who 

entered a non-labor department position at the same time as 

black applicants were segregated into the labor department 

obtained and maintained a distinct advantage over fellow black 

employees, an advantage predicated solely on past racial dis­

crimination. Goodyear offered essentially no proof which 

would extricate this system from condemnation because of a 

substantial business necessity. The fact that Goodyear shortly



prior to trial offered to relax its seniority transfer 

requirement as to pre-September 7, 1965, labor department 

employees does, not render moot this aspect of this lawsuit 

as to plaintiff or the class he represents. Jenkins v. United 

Gas C o r p ., 400 F.2d 28 (5th C i r . 1968). Accordingly, since 

Goodyear's seniority transfer system is predicated upon past 

racial discrimination in segregating black employees into the 

labor department, this system cannot withstand plaintiff's 

Title VII attack. Bing v. Roadway Express, Inc., 444 F.2d 

687 (5th Cir. 1971); Robinson v. Lorillard Corp., 444 F.2d 

791 (4th Cir. 1971); Griggs v. Duke Power C o ., 420 F.2d 1225 

(4th Cir. 1970), rev'd on other grounds, 401 U.S. 424 (1971); 

United States v. Bethlehem Steel Corp., 446 F.2d 652 (2d Cir. 

1971); Local 189, United Papermakers and Paperworkers v.

United States, 416 F.2d 980 (5th Cir. 1969), cert, denied.

397 U.S. 919 (1970); Quarles v. Philip Morris. Inc.. 279 F.

Supp. 505 (E.D. V a . 1968). Additionally, since this discrimina­

tory practice affects the right of plaintiff and the class 

he represents to contract for employment and is embodied 

within the collective bargaining agreement, for which Goodyear 

and Local 347 are mutually responsible, this practice is 

violative of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, 42 U.S.C. § 1981.

The latter section prohibits private racial discrimination in 

employment by either an employer or labor union. See Caldwell 

v. National Brewing C o . . 443 F.2d 1044 (5th Cir. 1971), cer t . 

d enied, 405 U.S. 916 (1972); Young v. International Telephone 

& Telegraph C o . . 438 F.2d 757 (3d Cir. 1971); Sanders v.

Dobbs Houses, Inc.. 431 F.2d 1097 (5th Cir. 1970), cert.

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denied, 401 U.S. 948 (1971); Waters v. Wisconsin Steel Works 

of International Harvester C o . , 427 F.2d 476 (7th Cir.), c e r t . 

denied, 400 U.g. 911 (1970).

This Court requested that the parties submit a remedial 
seniority transfer proposal encompassing the appropriate and 
necessary changes in the presently employed seniority system, 
as stated in the collective bargaining agreement between Goodyear 
and Local 347, which would be adequate to effectuate the policies 
of the Acts if the Court decided the present system was dis­
criminatory as to plaintiff or the class he represents. The 
parties are in basic agreement as to the mechanics of such a 
proposal. However, as to the employees entitled to the benefits 
of such remedial seniority rights there is irreconcilable dis­
agreement. Plaintiff would apply the proposal to all black 
employees hired in the labor department prior to the Court's 
injunctive order of November 19, 1971. Goodyear, on the other 
hand and at the request of the Office of Federal Contract Com­
pliance, would apply the proposal to all labor department 
employees hired prior to September 7, 1965, the date on which 
the first white applicant was employed into the labor depart­
ment. Local 347 in concurring with Goodyear would apply the 
proposal to all employees hired in any seniority group at the 
plant. It is the conclusion of the Court that the policies of 
both Acts can best be served in view of the Court's previous 
factual determination without unnecessary discrimination against 
other employees, white or black, by the adoption of the proposal 
submitted by Goodyear. The mechanics of the stipulated remedial 
seniority transfer proposal are detailed as follows:

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1. Such employees presently in divisional 
seniority groups other than the Labor Depart­
ment, or such employees hereafter transferred 
from the Labor Department to entry level jobs 
in other seniority groups, shall be vested 
with remedial group seniority equivalent to 
their plant seniority.

2. Such employees shall be entitled to use 
such remedial group seniority for all purposes 
presently determined by group seniority under 
the provisions of the collective bargaining 
agreement between the Company and Union dated 
July 30, 1970.

3. Such remedial group seniority shall cease 
upon occurrence of either of the following:

(a) In the case of an employee who 
transfers from the Labor Department to 
the Production Group, such remedial 
seniority shall cease if the employee 
advances beyond the entry level of such 
Group and subsequently transfers to 
another seniority group.

(b) In the case of an employee who 
transfers from the Labor Department to 
any seniority group other than the Pro­
duction Group, such remedial seniority 
shall cease if the employee subsequently 
transfers to another seniority group.

4. Such remedial seniority rights shall 
apply to an employee's first transfer out of 
the Labor Department.

The remedial seniority transfer rights, as set forth above, 

shall be subject to reasonable rules and regulations as 

established by  Goodyear and Local 347 to insure the safe and

operation of the plant as well as to insure that any 

employee seeking to exercise these transfer rights is reasonably 

qualified for the job sought. However, no member of the class 

involved herein to which the remedy applies shall be subjected 

to any unduly burdensome residency requirement in a new depart­

ment prior to moving up through the various lines of job progression

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which was not previously required of similarly situated 

employees, white or black, as a condition to the exercise of 

this remedial seniority in any new department.

V.
The Significance Of Defendant Goodyear's Good 

Faith Effort To Eliminate Discrimination
The court feels that in fairness to defendant Goodyear 

it is necessary to make an additional observation with reference 

to the proof forthcoming at the trial of this cause. This 

lawsuit does not pose a blatant instance in which an employer, 

or a labor union, has deliberately or consciously employed 

continuous racially discriminatory practices. To the contrary, 

the record reflects that Goodyear has willingly and apparently 

in good faith attempted to eliminate past discrimination.

However, notwithstanding the propriety of Goodyear's affirmative^ 

action program, "the question is whether on this record and 

despite the efforts toward conscientious fulfillment —  the 

employer still has practices which violate the Act." Rowe v. 

General Motors Corp.. 457 F.2d 348, 355 (5th Cir. 1972) .

Neither Goodyear's voluntary changes in the seniority provision, 

nor its abandonment of the testing and educational requirements 

prior to trial alleviates the need for declaratory and injunctive 

relief in order to effectuate the changes in these employment 

practices and to insure that they are not reinstituted. Rowe 

v. General Motors Corp., supra, at 359.

VI.
Injunctive Relief

For the reasons stated in Part IV(A)(1) of this opinion, 

plaintiff and the class he represents shall be granted permanent

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injunctive relief to the extent that Goodyear is prohibited 

from reinstituting the testing and educational requirements 

with respect to labor department employees hired prior to 

1957, the year these requirements were instituted. In accord 

with Part XV(A)(2) of this opinion, permanent injunctive relief 

is also granted to plaintiff and the class he represents in 

order to preclude reinstitution of the educational requirement 

by Goodyear as a condition for transfer to positions where 

black employees were previously discriminated against as a 

result of being segregated into the labor department. Further 

in accord with Part IV(B) of this opinion, permanent injunctive 

relief is granted to the extent that the previously employed 

seniority system as embodied in the collective bargaining agree 

ment between Goodyear and Local 347 is hereby modified so that 

the heretofore described remedial seniority transfer system 

can be instituted.

V I I .

Damages —  Backpay and Attorney's Fees 
The Court, after having considered the applicable law 

and all of the evidence forthcoming at the trial of this suit, 
finds that in order to effectuate the policies of both Acts 
the named plaintiff shall be entitled to the recovery of back 
pay from Goodyear as compensation for tangible economic loss 
resulting from these past racially discriminatory practices.
The obligation to provide back pay stems from the same source 

as the obligation to remedy the discriminatory employment and 

transfer criteria as applied to this black employee who was

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hired into the labor department prior to 1957, the year of

adoption of these employment requirements. The measure of

damages is the difference between plaintiff's actual earnings
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during the relevant period and those which in all probability 

he would have earned had he not been locked in the less desirable 

employment positions found in the previously segregated labor 

department. Further, plaintiff is entitled to reasonable 

attorney's fees. Counsel shall be given thirty (30) days to 

agree to an appropriate amount of back pay and reasonable 

attorney's fees to be awarded to plaintiff. if counsel are 

unable to agree on a fair dollar amount after engaging in bona 

fide discussions to achieve such an end, then the Court will 

promptly schedule a hearing to ascertain and assess such a 

monetary a w a r d .

The foregoing constitute the Court's Findings of Fact 

and Conclusions of Law. Subject to the above directive con­

cerning the ascertainment of damages, counsel will prepare 

and submit an appropriate judgment within thirty (30) days

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1/ Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 14.

2/ Defendant Goodyear's Exhibit No. 14; see Defendant
Goodyear's Exhibit No. 13. Compare Plaintiff's 
Exhibit Nos. 14, 15, 16, 17.

3/ Defendant Goodyear's Exhibit Nos. 13, 14.

4/ The Civil Rights Act of 1866, 42 U.S.C. § 1981, in
conjunction with the applicable local statute of 
limitations, requires that the alleged discrimination 
occur within a four year period prior to the date the 
civil action is filed. Tex. Rev. Civ. Stat. Ann. art.
5529 (1958) . See Boudreaux v. Baton Rouge Marine 
Contracting Co., 437 F .2d 1011 (5th Cir. 1971).

5/ See 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-2(h) and 29 C.F.R. §§ 1607.3-1607.14.

6/ Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 8(a). Compare the statistics
for the state of North Carolina as presented and 
relied upon in Griggs v. Duke Power C o ., 401 U.S. 424,
430, n .6 (1971) .

7/ Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 18 reflects that between
March 31, 1969, and September 30, 1971, 132 black 
applicants failed the test as compared to 126 white 
applicants. This is a difference of less than six 
p e r c e n t .

8/ In order to effectuate the policies of the Acts in
conjunction with 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-5(d) and Caldwell 
v. National Brewing C o . , 443 F.2d 1044 (.5th Cir. 1971), 
cer~t • denied, 405 U.S. 916 (1972), the Court, pursuant 
to its discretion, concludes that plaintiff's backpay 
remedy should extend from February 4, 1967, which is 
ninety days prior to the date the EEOC charge was filed.

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CLERK, U. S. DISTRICT COURT 
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICTS(&Ktf£f?N DISTRICT OF TEXAS

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FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS 2 0  ^72

HOUSTON DIVISION

R. L. JOHNSON, )
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GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER )
COMPANY, SYNTHETIC RUBBER )
PLANT, and INTERNATIONAL )
UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS, ) 
AFL-CIO, LOCAL UNION NO. 347, )

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V, BAILEY THOMAS, CLERK 
BY DEPUTY!

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CIVIL ACTION

NO. 69-H-899

INTERNATIONAL UNION OF 
OPERATING ENGINEERS, AFL- 
CIO, LOCAL UNION NO. 347,

Plaintiff,

V.

GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER 
COMPANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL 
PLANT,

Defendant.

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JUDGMENT
Civil Action No. 69-H-899 came on for trial before the 

Court without a jury on December 15, 1971, wherein all parties 

appeared in person and by counsel and were heard to present 

their pleadings, evidence and argument. Thereafter, on August 

10, 1972, the Court issued its Memorandum Opinion containing 

Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law pursuant to Rule 52 

of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and, pursuant to that 

Memorandum Opinion,

It is hereby ORDERED, ADJUDGED and DECREED as follows:

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1. The defendant Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company, 

Synthetic Rubber Plant, Houston, Texas ("Goodyear"), is 

hereby permanently enjoined from reinstituting any testing 

or educational requirements with respect to Labor Department 

employees hired prior to 1957.

2. The defendant Goodyear is hereby permanently 

enjoined from reinstituting any educational requirements as 

a condition of transfer to positions in any department other 

than the Labor Department, unless such educational requirements 

are validated in compliance with the applicable Guidelines of 

the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

3. Defendant Goodyear and Defendant International 

Union of Operating Engineers, AFL-CIO, Local Union No. 347 

("Operating Engineers") are hereby permanently enjoined from 

giving force or effect to any seniority system insofar as such 

seniority system is inconsistent with the following:

(a) Plaintiff, and any members of the Class 

plaintiff represents who were hired in the Labor 

Department before September 7, 1955, if presently 

employed in divisional seniority groups other 

than the Labor Department or if hereafter trans­

ferred from the Labor Department to entry level 

jobs in other seniority groups, shall be vested 

with remedial group seniority equivalent to their 

plant seniority.

(b) Such employees shall be entitled to use 

such remedial group seniority for all purposes 

presently determined by group seniority under

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the provisions of the collective bargaining 

agreement between the defendants Goodyear and 

Operating Engineers dated July 30, 1970.

However, such an employee's remedial seniority 

will not entitle him to exercise divisional 

seniority rights over another employee whose 

plant seniority exceeds the remedial seniority 

of such employee.

(c) Such remedial group seniority shall 

cease upon occurrence of either of the following:

(1) In the case of an employee 
who transfers from the Labor Department 
to the Production Group, such remedial 
seniority shall cease if the employee 
advances beyond the entry level of such 
Group and subsequently transfers to 
another seniority group.

(2) In the case of an employee 
who transfers from the Labor Department 
to any seniority group other than the 
Production Group, such remedial seniority 
shall cease if the employee subsequently 
transfers to another seniority group.

(d) Such remedial seniority rights shall only 

apply to an employee's first bona fide transfer 

out of the Labor Department.

(e) The remedial seniority transfer rights, 

as set forth above, shall be subject to reasonable 

rules and regulations as established by defendants 

Goodyear and Operating Engineers to insure the 

safe and efficient operation of the plant as well 

as to insure that any employee seeking to exercise 

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the job sought. However, no such employee 

shall be subjected to any unduly burdensome 

residency requirements in a new department 

prior to moving up through the various lines 

of job progression which was not previously 

required of similarly situated employees, 

white or black, as a condition to the exercise 

of this remedial seniority in any new department.

4. The named plaintiff, R. L. Johnson, shall recovcr 

'from defendant Goodyear back pay-for the period from February''' 

4, 1967, through November 18, 1971, and from defendant Operating

Engineers back pay for the period from November 19, 1971, to
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date of entry of this Judgment, measured by the difference

between plaintiff's actual earnings during such periods and

those which in all probability he would have earned had he not
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been locked in the Labor Department. Plaintiff is also entitled 

to interest at the rate of six per cent per annum (6%) on the 

. amount of wages found to be due from the date such wages became

due until the date of the Judgment.

5. Plaintiff Johnson shall recover of the defendants 

Goodyear and Operating Engineers reasonable attorney's fees 

and costs of Court incurred in the prosecution of this case 

apportioned on the basis of two-thirds against Goodyear and 

one-third against Operating Engineers.

6. This Court retains jurisdiction of this cause for 

the purpose of ascertaining the amounts of back pay and 

attorney's fees if the parties are unable to agree upon such 

amounts within thirty days following either the exhaustion of

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any appeals which may he taken or the expiration of the time 

for perfecting appeals.

7. Civil Action No. 71-H-1027 was presented to the 

Court on November 19, 1971, in a hearing wherein all parties 

were heard to present their pleadings and evidence and the 

argument of counsel, and thereafter the Court entered its 

Order enjoining and restraining the defendant Goodyear from 

unilaterally abridging the contractual seniority system then 

force and effect during the period intervening between 

institution of that cause and entry of this Judgment and Order. 

Accordingly, it is hereby ORDERED, ADJUDGED and DECREED that 

the injunction of November 19, 1971, imposed on defendant



IN TH E UNITED S T A T ES  DISTRICT COURT  

FO R TH E SOUTHERN D ISTRICT O F T E X A S  

HOUSTON DIVISION 

R . L . JOHNSON, §

CLERK, U .S. DISTRICT COURI 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXA. 

F I L E D  '

DEC 18 1972

P lain tiff,

VS.

GOODYEAR T IR E  & R U B B E R  
COM PANY, SYN TH ETIC  R U B B E R  
P L A N T , and IN TERN ATIO N AL  
UNION O F O PERA TIN G  EN G IN EERS, 
A F L -C IO , LO C A L UNION NO. 347 , 

D efendants.

IN TERN ATIO N AL UNION O F O P ­
ERATING EN G IN EER S, A F L -C IO , 
LO C A L UNION NO. 347,

P lain tiff,

VS.

GOODYEAR T IR E  & R U B B E R  
COM PANY, HOUSTON C H EM ICA L  
P LA N T ,

Defendant.

v. ^ e y Vw q m a s , C L E ^  
BY De/ u) Yj

C IV IL ACTION NO. 6 9 -H -8 9 9

C IV IL ACTION NO. 7 1 -H -1 0 2 7

NO TICE O F A P P E A L

N otice is  h ereb y  given th at P la in tiff, R . L . Joh n son, h ereb y  ap peals  

to the United S ta tes  C ou rt of A p p eals fo r the F ifth  C ircu it fro m  the final Ju d g­

m en t en tered  in th is actio n  on the 20th  day of N ovem b er, 1972 .

IA B R IE L L E  K. McDONALD
m a r k  t . McDo n a l d
1834 Southm ore B lv d ., Suite 203  
H ouston, T e x a s  77004  
(713 ) 5 2 3 -7 4 2 3

JA C K  G R EEN B ER G  
W ILLIA M  L . ROBINSON  
MORRIS J .  B A L L E R  
10 Colum bus C irc le  
New Y o rk , New Y o rk  10019  
(212 ) 5 8 6 -8 3 9 7

A T T O R N EY S  FO R P L A IN T IF F

C E R T IF IC A T E  O F SER V IC E

T his is  to ce rtify  that the u nd ersigned  cou nsel fo r P la in tiff  has this



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f[g & L  day of ’ 1 9 7 2 * SerV6d a C° Py ° f the fo re g ° ing

N otice of Appeal upon counsel for D efendants by m ailing sam e by United S ta tes

m ail ad d ressed  as  in d icated .

V. R . B u rch . J r . .  3000  One Shell P la z a . H ouston. T e x a s  
7 7 0 0 2 . A ttorn ey  for Defendant G oodyear T ire  & R ubber 
Com pany. Houston C h em ical P lan t.

W illiam  N. W heat, 600 C ullen C e n te r Bank Building,
H ouston, T e x a s  7 7 002 , A tto rn ey  for Defendant In te rn a ­
tional Union of O perating E n g in e e rs , A F L -C IO , L o c a l  
Union No. 3 47 .

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CLERK, U. S. DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS 

F I L E D
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS 

HOUSTON DIVISION

DEC 2 91972
V. BAILEY THOMAS, CLERK^

R. L. JOHNSON,
Plaintiff,

VS.
GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER 
COMPANY, SYNTHETIC RUBBER 
PLANT, and INTERNATIONAL 
UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS, 
AFL-CIO, LOCAL UNION NO. 347,

Defendants.
INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OP­
ERATING ENGINEERS, AFL-CIO, 
LOCAL UNION NO. 347,

Plaintiff,
VS.
GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER 
COMPANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL 
PLANT,

Defendant.

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NOTICE OF APPEAL ~
Notice is hereby given that Defendant, Goodyear Tire 

& Rubber Company, hereby cross appeals to The United States 

Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit from the Final Judg­

ment entered in this action on the 20th day of November, 1972.

3000 One Shell Plaza 
Houston, Texas 77002
ATTORNEY FOR DEFENDANT 
Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company

OF COUNSEL:

BAKER & BOTTS



Certificate of Service

This is to certify that on this the 29th day of
December, 1972, a copy of the foregoing Notice- of Appeal 
has been served upon Gabrielle K. McDonald, Attorney for 
Plaintiff and William N. Wheat, Attorney for Defendant Union 
at the below addresses by Certified Mail:

Mrs. Gabrielle K. McDonald 
Mark T. McDonald 
1834 Southmore B l v d . , Suite 203 
Houston, Texas 77004

Mr. William N. Wheat
600 Cullen Center Bank Building
Houston, Texas 77002

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CLERK, U. S, DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OR TEXAS

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F I L E D

FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS JAN 2 1973
HOUSTON DIVISIO N  y BAILEY THOMAS, CL^RK

BY.OEEU

R. L. JOHNSON,

Plaintiff,
VS.
GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER 
COMPANY, SYNTHETIC RUBBER 
PLANT, and INTERNATIONAL 
UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS, 
AFL-CIO, LOCAL UNION NO. 347,

Defendants.
INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OP­
ERATING ENGINEERS, AFL-CIO, 
LOCAL UNION NO. 347,

Plaintiff,
VS.
GOODYEAR TIRE & RUBBER 
COMPANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL 
PLANT,

Defendant.

NOTICE OF

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APPEAL

Notice is hereby given that Plaintiff, International
Union of Operating Engineers, AFL-CIO, Local Union No. 347, hereby

appeals to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit

from the final Judgment 

November, 1972.

Suite 600, Cullen Center Bank Building 
Jefferson at Louisiana 
Houston, Texas 77002 
(713) 224-4447
Attorney for International Union of 
Operating Engineers, AFL-CIO, Local 
Union No. 347



CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

I hereby certify that a true copy of the above and 

foregoing Notice of Appeal has been duly served upon the following 

by United States Mail, postage prepaid, on this the 2nd day of 

January, 1973:

V. R. Burch, Jr.
3000 One Shell Plaza 
Houston, Texas 77002

Gabrielle K. McDonald
1834 Southmore Blvd., Suite 203
Houston, Texas 77004

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IN T H E UNITED ST A T ES  DISTRICT COURT  

FO R  T H E SOUTHERN DISTRICT O F T EX A S  

HOUSTON DIVISION

R . L . JOHNSON,
P lain tiff,

VS.

GOODYEAR T IR E  & R U B B E R  COM PANY, 
SYN TH ETIC  R U B B E R  P L A N T , and IN­
T ERN A TIO N A L UNION O F O PERA TIN G  
EN G IN EER S, A F L -C IO , LO C A L UNION 
NO. 3 47 ,

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CLERK, U. S. DISTRICT. COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF, TEXAS 

F I L E D

F E B  7  1973

IN TERN ATIO N AL UNION O F O PERA TIN G  
EN G IN EER S, A F L -C IO , LO C A L UNION
NO. 347 ,

P la in tiff,

VS.
GOODYEAR T IR E  & R U B B E R  COM PANY, 
HOUSTON C H EM IC A L P L A N T ,

D efendant.

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C IV IL ACTION NO. 7 1 -H -1 0 2 7

O RDER EXTEN D IN G  T IM E FO R  FILIN G  REC O RD  
_______ON A P P E A L _______________

It having been m ade known to the C ourt th at the C o u rt’ s o fficial 

C ou rt R e p o rte r  is unable to p re p a re  the re c o r d  on appeal in the above num ­

b ered  and sty led  ca u se  within the fo rty  (40) day p eriod  p rovided by law , and 

the C ourt being of the opinion th at the tim e  fo r filing the r e c o r d  should be

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IN THE UNITED STATES D I S T R I C T  COURT

FOR THE SOUTHERN D I S T R I C T  OF TEXAS

HOUSTON D I V I S I O N

R.  L .  JOHNSON, )
P L A I N T I F F ,  )

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GOODYEAR T I R E  6 RUBBER )
COMPANY, SYNTHETIC RUBBER ) 
PLANT,  AND INTERNATIONAL )
UNION OF OPERATING E N G I N E E R S , )  
A F L - C I O ,  LOCAL UNION NO. 3 ^ 7 , )  

DEFENDANTS.  )

INTERNATIONAL UNION OF 
OPERATING ENGINEERS,  A FL -  
C I O ,  LOCAL UNION NO. 3^7,  

P L A I N T I F F ,

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GOODYEAR T I R E  £ RUBBER 
COMPANY, HOUSTON CHEMICAL  
PLANT,

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I ,  EVELYN OVERBECK,  O F F I C I A L  COURT REPORTER 

FOR THE UNITED STATES D I S T R I C T  COURT, SOUTHERN 

D I S T R I C T  OF TEXAS,  DO HEREBY C E R T I F Y  THAT THIS IS  A 

TRUE AND COMPLETE TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS HAD IN THE 

ABOVE STYLED AND NUMBERED CAUSE,  COMMENCING ON THE 

15TH DAY OF DECEMBER,  1971,  BEFORE THE HONORABLE CARL 

0 .  BUE,  J R . ,  UNITED STATES D I S T R I C T  JUDGE.

WITNESS MY O F F I C I A L  HAND AT MY O F F I C E  IN

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EVEL YN  OYER-HECK
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T E S T I MO N Y  OF FRED L .  VAN O S DAL L

D I R E C T  E X AMI NA T I ON -  MRS.  MC DONALD 
CROSS E X AMI NA T I ON -  MR.  BURCH 
R E D I R E C T  E X AMI NAT I ON - MRS.  MC DONALD

T E S T I M O N Y  OF R.  L .  JOHNSON

D I R E C T  E X AMI NA T I ON -  MRS.  MC DONALD 
CROSS  E X A MI N A T I O N  - MR.  WHEAT 
R E D I R E C T  E X AMI NA T I ON - MRS.  MC DONALD 
R E C R O S S  E X AMI NA T I O N -  MR. BURCH

T E S T I MO N Y  OF JOHN H.  CHAPMAN

D I R E C T  E X A MI N A T I O N  - MRS.  MC DONALD 
CROSS E X A MI N A T I O N  - MR.  BURCH 
CROSS E X AMI NA T I ON - MR.  V/HEAT 
R E D I R E C T  E X AMI NA T I ON - MRS.  MC DONALD 
R E C ROS S  E X AMI NA T I O N - MR.  BURCH

T E S T I MO N Y  OF L ONNI E  BROWN

D I R E C T  E X AMI NA T I ON - MRS.  MC DONALD 
CROSS E X A MI N A T I O N  - MR.  BURCH 
CROSS E X AMI NA T I O N -  MR. WHEAT

T E S T I M O N Y  OF P E R C Y  V I T A L
D I R E C T  E X AMI NA T I O N -  MRS.  MC DONALD 
CROSS  E X AMI NA T I ON -  MR.  WHEAT 
R E D I R E C T  E X AMI NAT I ON - MRS.  MC DONALD 
R E C R O S S  E X AMI NA T I ON -  MR. BURCH

T E S T I M O N Y  OF N A T H A N I E L  BEAN

D I R E C T  E X AMI NA T I O N - MRS.  MC DONALD 
CROSS E X AMI NA T I ON -  MR.  BURCH 
CROSS E X AMI NA T I O N - MR.  WHEAT 
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APPEARANCES

REPRESENTING THE P L A I N T I F F :

MC DONALD AND MC DONALD
BY:  G A B R I E L L L E  K.  MC DONALD, ESQ.

REPRESENTING THE DEFENDANT,
GOODYEAR T I R E  S RUBBER COMPANY:

BAKER AND BOTTS
BY:  V.  REAGAN BURCH, J R . ,  ESQ.

REPRESENTING THE DEFENDANT 
LOCAL UNION NO. 347 :

WHEAT AND BARTLETT
BY:  WILLIAM N. WHEAT, ESQ.

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PROCEEDINGS  

DECEMBER 15,  1971

THE COURT: C I V I L  ACTION NO. 6 9 - H - 8 9 9 ,

CONSOLIDATED WITH 7 1 - H - 1 0 2 7 ,  R.  L .  JOHNSON VS.  GOODYEAR 

T I R E  £ RUBBER COMPANY.

WHAT SAYS COUNSEL FOR P L A I N T I F F  JOHNSON? 

MRS. MC DONALD: P L A I N T I F F  IS  READY,

YOUR HONOR.

THE COURT: WHAT SAYS COUNSEL FOR THE

DEFENDANT GOODYEAR T I R E ?

MR. BURCH: THE COMPANY IS READY,  YOUR

HONOR.

THE COURT: WHAT SAYS COUNSEL FOR THE

UNION?

MR. WHEAT: UNION IS READY,  YOUR HONOR.

(OPENING STATEMENTS OF COUNSEL . )

THE COURT: ARE YOU IN POSITION TO PRO­

CEED NOW?

MRS. MC DONALD: Y E S ,  YOUR HONOR.

P L A I N T I F F S  CALL MR. S .  VAN OSDALL AS AN ADVERSE WITNESS,  

YOUR HONOR. HE IS  PERSONNEL MANAGER OF THE DEFENDANT 

COMPANY. I WOULD L I K E  TO BE PERMITTED UNDER THE RULES

TO QUESTION HIM AS AN ADVERSE WITNESS.
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THE COURT: I THINK IT  MIGHT BE WELL

TO DETERMINE HOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COURTROOM 

ARE WITN ESS ES .  WILL  ALL THOSE WHO ARE WITNESSES IN 

THIS CASE PLEASE STAND.

MRS. MC DONALD: YOUR HONOR, I DON'T LIKE

TO INTERRUPT BUT THERE IS A MATTER I NEED TO R A I S E .

MR. R.  L .  JOHNSON, P L A I N T I F F  IN THE CASE ,  BECAUSE OF 

HIS R EL I G I O US  B E L I E F S  HAS NOT RAISED HIS HAND TO SWEAR,  

SO I F  AT THIS TIME THE COURT WILL  ADMINISTER THE OATH 

TO OTHER WITNESSES AND THEN MR. JOHNSON CAN BE ADMINI­

STERED TO SEPARATELY .

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DULY SWORN BY THE C L E R K . )

MR. BURCH: YOUR HONOR, I APOLOGIZE - -

I HAVE NEGLECTED TO INTRODUCE TO THE COURT MR. DALE 

MARTIN WHO IS PRESENT AT THE COUNSEL TABLE WITH US.

HE IS  WITH GOODYEAR LAW DEPARTMENT. HE IS ADMITTED TO 

PRACTICE  IN THE STATES OF OHIO AND I L L I N O I S ,  AND WE 

WOULD ASK THAT HE BE PERMITTED TO TAKE AN APPEARANCE  

IN THE CASE AND THAT THE COURT PERMIT HIM TO DO SO 

FOR THIS ACTION ONLY.

THE COURT: Y E S .  HAPPY TO HAVE YOU WITH

US,  MR. MARTIN.

VERY WELL.  YOU MAY PROCEED.

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FRED L .  VAN OSDALL,

CALLED AS AN ADVERSE WITNESS BY THE P L A I N T I F F ,  HAVING 

BEEN F I R S T  DULY SWORN, WAS EXAMINED AND T E S T I F I E D  AS 

FOLLOWS:

DI RE CT  EXAMINATION

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, PL EA S E .

A I T ' S  FRED L .  VAN OSDALL.  V-A-N O - S - D - A - L - L .

Q M R . . VAN OSDALL,  ARE YOU AN EMPLOYEE OF GOODYEAR?

A I AM.

Q ARE YOU THE PERSONNEL MANAGER FOR GOODYEAR?

A I AM AT THIS PLANT.

Q THAT IS AT THE HOUSTON PLANT?

A THAT'S RIGHT.

Q HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN PERSONNEL MANAGER?

A S INCE  OCTOBER,  1950.

Q B R I E F L Y  CAN YOU T EL L  THE COURT WHAT ARE YOUR

MAJOR DUTIES AND R E S P O N S I B I L I T I E S  AS PERSONNEL  

MANAGER?

A WELL,  THEY INCLUDE EMPLOYMENT FUNCTION, THE UNION

RELATIONS FUNCTIONS,  THE STAFF FUNCTIONS,  INCLUDING  

THE RATE S ET T IN G,  SALARY S ET T IN G,  TRAINING,  SAFE TY ,  

ADMINISTRATION FOR OUR SUGGESTION SYSTEM.  AND 

THERE IS SOME OTHER INCIDENTAL FUNCTIONS.

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Q WHAT ARE THE ENTRY LE VE L  JOBS FOR WHICH NEW 

PERSONNEL ARE EMPLOYED I N I T I A L L Y ,  GENERALLY?

A I HOPE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT AL L  MY ANSWERS

APPLY ONLY TO THE OPERATING ENGINEERS BARGAINING  

U N I T.

Q < Y E S ,  S I R .

A THE ENTRY JOB INTO OUR PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT IS 

BALER H E L P E R .  ANOTHER ENTRY JOB IS U T I L I T Y  

OPERATOR IN OUR U T I L I T Y  DEPARTMENT.  ANOTHER ENTRY 

JOB IS A STORAGE CLERK - -  NO, RE C EI VI N G AND STORAGE  

DEPARTMENT.  ANOTHER ENTRY JOB IS A WAREHOUSEMAN 

AND SHIPPER IN OUR S HI PPI NG DEPARTMENT.  ANOTHER 

ENTRY JOB IS A LABORATORY T E C H N I C I A N ,  SECOND 

C L A S S ,  IN OUR LABORATORY DEPARTMENT.

ANOTHER ENTRY JOB IS OUR PROCESS CON­

TROL CHEMIST IN OUR CHEMIST GROUP IN OUR LABORATORY 

ANOTHER ENTRY JOB IS THE OI LER IN THE OI LE R DE­

PARTMENT.  ANOTHER ENTRY JOB IS LABOR OR YARDMAN 

IN OUR LABOR DEPARTMENT.

I B E L I E V E  THAT THAT IS THE T O T A L ,  MRS.
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Q ARE NEW PERSONS WHO ARE EMPLOYED FOR THE FI RST  

TIME GENERALLY EMPLOYED IN ONE OF THESE I N I T I A L  

ENTRY JOBS THAT YOU HAVE J U S T MENTIONED?

A YES .

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Q NOW, THE BALER HELPER JOB IS IN THE PRODUCTION 

DEPARTMENT, IS  THAT CORRECT?

A THAT IS CORRECT.

Q IS  I T  TRUE THAT MOST OF THE I N I T I A L  OPERATIONS

OCCUR IN THE BALER HELPER JOB IN THE PRODUCTION,

AND THAT THE GREATER PERCENTAGE OF PERSONS WHO 

ARE HIRED I N I T I A L L Y  COME INTO THAT JOB?

A THAT HAS BEEN TRUE.

Q NOW, CAN YOU GIVE  ME AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WOULD 

BE THE PERCENTAGE OF NEW EMPLOYEES WHO COME IN 

THE PLANT BY WAY OF THE BALER HELPER JOB I N I T I A L L Y ?

A WELL,  AT THE PRESENT,  MRS. MC DONALD, THE GREATER 

MAJORITY OF OUR EMPLOYEES CAN COME IN AS LABORERS.

Q AND HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN THE CASE?

A S INCE  MAY, *7 1 .

Q OF ’ 71?

A RIGHT .

Q PRIOR TO THAT TIME WHAT WERE THE APPROXIMATE PER­

CENTAGE F I GU RES ?

A I WOULD ESTIMATE PRIOR TO THAT TIME S E V E N T Y - F I V E

PER CENT CAME IN AS BALER HE LPERS .

Q AND APPROXIMATELY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE NEW EM­

PLOYEES WOULD COME IN AS U T I L I T I E S  OPERATOR?

A A LOW PER CENT.

Q PROBABLY LESS THAN ONE PER CENT,  WOULD THAT BE TRUE

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A PROBABLY.

Q WOULD THAT ALSO BE TRUE FOR THE STORAGE CLERK?

A YES , ABOUT AT THAT L E V E L .

Q LESS  THAN ONE PER CENT OR SO?

A 1 WOULD ESTIMATE THAT BETWEEN ONE AND F I V E  PER 

CENT,  WE’ LL  SAY.

Q PRIOR TO A P R I L  OF ' 7 1 ,  WHAT WERE THE PERCENTAGE  

F I G U R E S ,  APPROXIMATELY,  FOR THE WAREHOUSEMAN- 

SHIPPER JOB CATEGORY?

A I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT AT TEN PER CENT.

Q AND FOR THE LABOR T ECHNI CI AN SECOND CLASS?

A F I V E  PER CENT.

Q AND FOR THE PROCESS CONTROL CHEMISTS?

A THREE PER CENT.

Q AND FOR THE O I L E R  JOB?

A LESS THAN THREE PER CENT.

Q AND FOR THE LABOR AND YARDMEN PRIOR TO A PR IL  OF 

THIS YEAR?

A OVER HOW LONG A PERIOD?

Q YOU HAVE T E S T I F I E D  THAT S INCE  APPROXIMATELY APRIL

OF THIS YEAR.

A RIGHT .

Q THE MAJORITY OF NEW PERSONS HIRED COME IN I N I T I A L L Y  

AS LABORERS.

A YES .
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Q NOW, PRIOR TO A PR IL  OF THIS YEAR WHAT PERCENTAGE  

GENERALLY CAME IN AS LABORERS?

A JUST GUESSING,  BACK OVER THE YEARS I WOULD SAY 

F I V E  PER CENT.  THERE WERE SOME PERIODS IT  WAS 

GREATER THAN THAT,  SOME YEARS.  I DIDN’ T ATTEMPT 

TO TOTAL THOSE IN MY MIND.

Q I HAVEN’ T E I T H E R .  I UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN E S T I ­

MATE .

A OKAY.

Q NOW, WHY S INCE  A P R I L  OF THIS YEAR IS IT  THE

MAJORITY OF THE EMPLOYEES AS YOU HAVE T E S T I F I E D  

COME IN I N I T I A L L Y  AS LABORERS?

A WELL,  UNDER OUR UNION CLAUSE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT  

TO BID INTO OTHER JOBS AS THEY BECOME VACANT.

Q WHAT CHANGES OCCURRED IN A PR IL  OF ’ 71 ,  I F  ANY,

THAT SEEMINGLY HAS CHANGED THE EMPLOYMENT DIRECTION  

FOR NEW EMPLOYEES?

A WELL,  WE NO LONGER APPLY ANY TESTING PROGRAM OR 

REQUIRE ANY EDUCATIONAL Q U A LI F I C A T I O N S .  THIS IS  

SOMETHING THAT WE SUSPENDED UNDER THE Q . F . A . E .

FEE  IN A P R I L  OF ' 7 1 .

Q DID YOU ALSO THEN BEGIN TO EMPLOY AT THAT TIME THE 

GREATEST PERCENTAGE OF ALL EMPLOYEES IN LABORER 

JOBS I N I T I A L L Y ?

A RIGHT.

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} ALONG WITH EXTENSION OF THESE TESTS IN HIGH SCHOOL,  

IS THAT RIGHT?

\ WE LL ,  ONE LED TO THE OTHER,  BECAUSE WE SUSPENDED

TE ST IN G AND OUR HIGH SCHOOL REQUIREMENT.  THERE IS 

J U S T  A GENERAL BID UP OF TRANSFERS FROM THE LABOR 

GROUP INTO THE OTHER GROUPS.

Q NOW, PRIOR TO THE SUSPENSION OF THE TE ST ING  AND

EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS IT WAS NOT A REQUIREMENT  

TO S A T I S F Y  THE TE STING IN HIGH SCHOOLS TO BE EM­

PLOYED IN LABOR,  CORRECT?

A THAT IS RIGHT.

Q SO THEN THIS IS WHY - -  BUT THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT  

THAT THESE BE S A T I S F I E D  FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS,

IS THAT CORRECT?

A THAT IS CORRECT.

Q SO THEN WITH THE SUSPENSION OF THESE REQUIREMENTS  

THEN AL L  PERSONS,  REGARDLESS OF THE JOB FOR WHICH 

THEY ARE H I R ED ,  HAVE TO S A T I S F Y  THE SAME REQUI RE­

MENTS AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE EMPLOYED I N I T I A L L Y  

IN LABOR,  IS THAT CORRECT?

A THAT IS RI GHT,  BECAUSE OF THAT THE E F F E C T  HAS BEEN 

THAT WE EMPLOY LABORERS OR HIRE LABORERS AND WHEN 

WE HAVE OTHER VACANCIES THEY HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED  

FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT TO THE DEPARTMENT WHERE 

THE VACANCY I S .

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Q NOW, DURING 1970 ,  MR. VAN OSDALL,  DID YOU BECOME

AWARE OF THE FACT THAT MINO RIT IE S  TENDED TO BE R E ­

JECTED IN GREATER NUMBERS BY GOODYEAR BECAUSE OF 

THEIR  I N A B I L I T Y  TO PASS THE TESTS THAT WERE B^ING 1 

GIVEN THAN WHITES?

A WELL,  MRS. MC DONALD, I DO KNOW IN AN ATTEMPT TO 

RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION THAT THE PERCENTAGE WE 

HIRED OF NEGROES HAD INCREASED AND WAS STEA DILY  

INCREASING.  I CAN'T SAY WITH A P O S I T I V E  OPINION 

THAT WE HAD TO TEST  MORE NEGROES IN ORDER TO OBTAIN 

THAT MANY, BUT I RATHER THINK THAT THAT WAS THE 

TRUTH, THE CASE .

Q SO THEN THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT,

YES OR NO?

MR. BURCH: YOUR HONOR, I SUB-
!MIT HE HAS ANSWERED THE QUESTION AND IT  

I S  NOT S U S C E P T I B L E  TO JUST A YES OR NO.

THE COURT: I WILL PERMIT HIM

TO ADD TO THE ANSWER I F  HE WISHES TO.

COMPLETE YOUR ANSWER, MR.

VAN OSDALL.

A WELL,  IT  COULD WELL HAVE BEEN THAT WE HAD TO TEST  

MORE NEGROES TO ARRIVE AT AND S EL EC T  THE NUMBER OF 

NEGROES WE HIR ED,  BUT I REALLY CAN'T SAY THAT IN 

SUPPORT OF DATA.

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IWHAT WOULD BE THE ANSWER, THOUGH, YES OR NO? |

WOULD YOU STATE THE QUESTION AGAIN?

WELL,  ARE YOU SAYING THAT PERHAPS YOU WOULD HAVE 

TO TEST MORE NEGROES THAN WHITES TO GET THE PER­

CENTAGE OF NEGROES THAT YOU HAD?

VERY P O S S I B L Y .

THIS IS YOUR EXPLANATION?

VERY P O S S IB L Y .

NOW, I S N ' T  THAT BECAUSE A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF 

NEGROES WERE REJE CTE D BECAUSE THEY F A I LE D  TO PASS 

THE PRE-EMPLOYMENT TESTS THAN WHITES,  AND WEREN'T  

YOU AWARE OF THIS DURING THAT PERIOD OF 1970?

WELL,  IT  WASN'T AN IMPORTANT AWARENESS TO ME. WE 

WERE DOING - -  WE WERE HIRING THE PERCENTAGE OF 

NEGROES THAT E X I S T S  IN THE AREA.

I R E A L I Z E

IN FACT,  WE HAD TO TEST MORE NEGROES TO HIRE  THAT 

MANY. I F  I WAS GENERALLY AWARE THAT WAS GOING ON,
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Y E S ,  BUT I DID NOT F E E L  WE WERE IN VIOLATION OF 

THE LAW OR ANY REQUIREMENT BY HAVING DONE THAT.
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MR. VAN OSDALL,  YOU ARE REALLY GETTING BEYOND MY 

QUESTION.  I UNDERSTAND NOW YOU HAD TO TEST MORE 

NEGROES TO GET THE ONES THAT YOU HAD. NOW, WHY IS  

THAT TRUE?

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A YOU MEAN YOU WANT MY OPINION OF THE PSYCHOLOGICAL
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TRAINING OF NEGROES IN THE HOUSTON AREA AND THIS  

SORT OF THING,  TO ANSWER THAT WAY?

Q NO, S I R .  I WOULD JUST L I K E  YOU TO ANSWER THE 

QUESTION THAT I HAVE ASKED YOU, AND THAT IS - -  

A I DON’ T SET MYSELF UP AS AN AUTHORITY TO KNOW OR 

TO T E S T I F Y  WHY IT  IS  TRUE.  I T  COULD WELL BE TRUE 

BECAUSE NEGROES HAVEN’ T HAD THE EDUCATIONAL AD­

VANTAGES.  THAT COULD WELL BE THE REASON. BUT I 

AM NOT HERE AS AN EXPERT WITNESS TO HAVE THAT 

OPINION.  I KNOW IT  DID E X I S T .

Q WHAT DID E X I S T ?

A AM I ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION?

Q I DON'T THINK YOU ARE.  MAYBE YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTAND­

ING THE QUESTION.

I AM ASKING YOU DURING THE PERIOD OF 1970 

WERE YOU AWARE THAT A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF NEGROES 

WERE REJECTED FOR FA I L I N G  TO PASS THE PRE-EMPLOYMEN

TEST THAN WHITES?  I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE GIVEN AN
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Q WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER?

A I WOULD SAY Y E S .

Q Y ES?

A Y E S .

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Q WHEN DOES AN E M P L O Y E E ' S  PLANT S ENIOR IT Y BEGIN?

A AFT ER HE HAS BEEN EMPLOYED NINETY DAYS.

Q AND THEN WHEN DOES HIS D I V I S I O N A L  S ENI OR IT Y BEGIN?

A THE SAME,  AFTER HE HAS BEEN EMPLOYED IN A DI VI SI ON

FOR NINETY DAYS.

Q AND WHAT G E N E R A L L Y ,  SO THE COURT CAN GET AN UNDER­

STANDING,  I R E A L I Z E  IT IS IN THE LABOR CONTRACT - -  

IS D I V I S I O N A L  S ENIORIT Y USED FOR?

A S E L E CT I ON  OF JOBS WITHIN A D I V I S I O N ,  LAYOFFS

WITHIN A D I V I S I O N ,  ANY PREFERENCES THAT MIGHT BE 

BASED ON S ENIOR IT Y WITHIN A D I V I S I O N .

Q VACATIONS?

A NO.

Q IS THAT PLANT S E NI OR I TY ?

A RIGHT.

Q SO IS IT TRUE THEN - -

A I MAY WELL SAY THAT THE S E L E CT I ON  OF WHEN A MAN

TAKES A VACATION IS BASED ON D I V I S I O N A L  S E N I O R I T Y ,  

BUT THE E L I G I B I L I T Y ,  THE AMOUNT OF VACATION TO 

WHICH HE IS E N T I T L E D ,  IS BASED ON HIS PLANT S E N I O R ! '

Q I S E E .  BUT WHEN COMPETING AMONG EMPLOYEES TO DE­

TERMINE WHO HAS THE F I R S T  OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE A 

CERTAIN PERIOD OF T I ME ,  THEN THAT IS BASED ON DIVIS  

S E N I O R I T Y ,  IS THAT TRUE?

A THAT IS CORRECT.

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Q NOW, PRIOR TO THE LABOR AGREEMENT, THE CURRENT 

LABOR AGREEMENT E F F E C T I V E  JULY 2 4 ,  1970 ,  IS  IT

TRUE THERE WAS NO CONTRACT PROVISION FOR AN EMPLOY 

TO TRANSFER FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER?

A THAT IS CORRECT.

Q HOW DID AN EMPLOYEE WHO WANTED TO TRANSFER FROM 

ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER TRANSFER,  I F  THAT WAS 

P O S S I B L E ,  PRIOR TO THE CURRENT CONTRACT?

A HE MADE HIS WISHES KNOWN TO US IN THE PERSONNEL

DEPARTMENT AND WE EXAMINED OR EVALUATED HIS QUALI ­

F ICATIONS  AND I F  WE CONSIDERED HE WAS SATISFACTORY  

WE TRANSFERRED HIM.

Q DID THE FOREMAN OF AN EMPLOYEE'S  DEPARTMENT THAT 

HE WAS IN GIVE  HIS OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT 

HE F E L T  THE EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED?

A IN SOME CA SES ,  Y E S .  IN SOME DEPARTMENTS, Y E S .

Q AND WOULD THE FOREMAN IN THAT DEPARTMENT TO WHICH 

THE EMPLOYEE WANTED TO TRANSFER ALSO PLAY A ROLE 

IN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THAT EMPLOYEE WAS 

TRANSFERRED INTO HIS DEPARTMENT?

A IN SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT IS TRUE.

Q FOR WHICH DEPARTMENTS WAS THAT TRUE?

A WELL,  IN PRODUCTION IT WAS VERY RARELY TRUE THAT 

THE FOREMAN HAD ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT WHO THE EM­

PLOYEE WOULD BE THAT WENT IN AS A BALER HELPER .

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IN THE U T I L I T I E S  DEPARTMENT IT  WAS TRUE THAT THE 

FOREMAN HAD GOT QUITE INVOLVED,  AND WE RESPECTED  

HIS OPINION ON THE APPLICANT.

IN THE LABORATORY IT  WAS D E F I N I T E L Y  TRUE.  

SOMEBODY, SOME MEMBER OF MANAGEMENT IN THE LABOR­

ATORY,  WOULD GIVE  US HIS OPINION ON THE APPLICANT,  

HIS A B I L I T Y  TO LEARN THAT JOB.

IN THE RECEVING AND STORES,  THIS CONSISTS  

OF SEVERAL D IFFERENT  ASSIGNMENTS AND IN SOME CASES 

WE DID CONSULT OR COUNSEL WITH THE DEPARTMENT MANAGE 

OR THE FOREMAN.

IN THE SHIPPING DEPARTMENT IT  WAS SOME­

TIMES YES AND SOMETIMES NO THAT WE WOULD CONSULT 

WITH THE FOREMAN OF THE SHIPPING DEPARTMENT.

IN THE OILERS  DEPARTMENT WE USUALLY ASKED 

THE APPROVAL OF OR THE OPINION OF THE FOREMAN OF 

THAT DEPARTMENT, I F  HE THOUGHT THIS MAN COULD DO 

THE OILERS  JOB.

I THINK I HAVE GONE DOWN THE L I S T .

PRIOR TO THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS IT  TRUE THAT THERE 

WERE FEW TRANSFERS MADE BY EMPLOYEES FROM ONE DE­

PARTMENT TO ANOTHER?

"FEW" IS A WORD THAT I DON'T KNOW WE ARE THINKING 

THE SAME, BUT I WOULD ESTIMATE THERE WERE BETWEEN 

25 AND 50.

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TRANSFERS?

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WOULD YOU SAY THAT THERE WERE ANY TRANSFERS MADE 

BY EMPLOYEES IN PRODUCTION TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT 

DURING THIS PERIOD?

DURING WHAT PERIOD?

PRIOR TO JULY 24 ,  1970?

I AM SURE THERE WERE SOME THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD  

OF OUR PLANT'S OPERATIONS SINCE  1943.

WOULD YOU AGREE THAT IT  WOULD BE RARE FOR AN EM­

PLOYEE IN THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT TO TRANSFER 

TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THAT DEPARTMENT 

DOES CONTAIN THE HIGHEST PAYING JOBS ,  DOESN'T I T ?

I T  DOES CONTAIN THE HIGHEST PAYING JOB IS TRUE.  

THERE HAVE BEEN EMPLOYEES WHO ARE BALER HELPERS  

WHO HAVE TRANSFERRED TO SHIPPING BECAUSE THEY COULD 

GET THE MAXIMUM RATE IN SHIPPING WITHIN A MUCH 

SHORTER TIME THAN THEY COULD GET THE OPERATOR'S  

RATE IN PRODUCTION.

ONCE YOU ARE BEYOND THE JOB OF BALER HELPER WOULD 

YOU AGREE IT  WOULD BE RATE FOR AN OPERATOR TO TRANS 

FER FROM PRODUCTION?

Y E S ,  THAT WOULD BE RARE.

THE GREATEST NUMBER OF THE TRANSFERS THAT OCCURRED 

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P L A NT ,  THOSE FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT TO OTHER DE­

PARTMENTS WAS GREATER THAN THOSE FROM ANY OTHER 

DEPARTMENT TO ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT - -  IS THAT THE 

QUESTION?

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LET ME ASK IT ANOTHER WAY. ARE YOU ASKING IF MORE 

LABORERS TRANSFERRED OUT OF THEIR DEPARTMENT THAN 

MORE EMPLOYEES IN ANY ONE DEPARTMENT?

Y E S ,  THAT IS MY QUESTION.

ANY ONE DEPARTMENT?

YES .

I WOULD THINK SO.

THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES?

I WOULD THINK SO.

NOW, PRIOR TO THE CURRENT CONTRACT,  IF AN EMPLOYEE  

TRANSFERRED FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER AFTER
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TWO YEARS HE WOULD F O R F E I T  HIS S ENIOR IT Y IN HIS 

HOME DEPARTMENT,  IS THAT CORRECT?
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T H A T ' S  CORRECT.

NOW, UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT SUCH AN EMPLOYEE  

DOES NOT FORFEIT HIS S ENI OR I TY  IN HIS HOME DEPART­

MENT;  IT DOES NOT CONTINUE TO ACCUMULATE AFTER HIS

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A THAT IS CORRECT.

Q BUT DURING THE PRESENT CONTRACT AND THE CONTRACT 

PRIOR TO THE PRESENT ONE,  AN E MP L O Y E E ' S  DI VI SI ON  

S ENI OR I TY  WOULD BEGIN FROM HIS DATE OF TRANFER  

OR THIRTY DAYS AFTER HIS DATE OF TRANSF ER,  IS THAT 

CORRECT?

A THAT IS CORRECT.  IF YOU WOULD LET ME RESERVE THE

EXCE PTION OF THE E F F E C T E D  CLAUSE PROPOSALS WE MADE.

Q A L L  RI GHT.  YOU COULD EXPL AIN THAT.  YOU SAY YOU 

WANTED TO RESERVE —

A WELL ,  IF YOU WILL LET ME MAKE THAT EXCEPTION TO MY 

ANSWER.

Q MAYBE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO EXPL AIN TO THE COUI 

WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,WHEN THIS E F F E C T I V E  CLAS 

PROPOSAL WAS MADE BY THE COMPANY.

A OKAY.  WE TALKED TO THE E F F E C T I V E  CLASS OF EM­

PLOYEES DURING THE WEEK OF NOVEMBER 8 T H , THIS YEAR,  

AND TOLD THEM IF THEY WANTED TO TRANSFER TO ANOTHER 

DEPARTMENT FROM THEIR LABOR DEPARTMENT THAT THEY 

COULD CARRY WITH THEM THEIR S E N I O R I T Y .

TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE,  IF AN EMPLOYEE HAD 

WORKED AS A LABORER FOR T WENT Y- FI VE  YEARS WE TOLD 

HIM DURING THE WEEK OF NOVEMBER 8 TH THAT IF HE 

WANTED TO TRANSFER TO PRODUCTION HE WOULD CARRY

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WITH HIM HIS TWENTY-FIVE YEARS'  SENIO RITY  INTO 

PRODUCTION. FURTHERMORE, WE TOLD HIM THAT HE 

WOULD ONLY NEED TO STAY ON THE ENTRY LEVEL  J OB ,

THE BALER HELPER JOB,  ONE DAY AND THEN HE WOULD 

HAVE TWENTY-F IVE  YEARS'  S E N I O R I T Y ,  PRODUCTION 

D I V I S I O N  S E N I O R I T Y ,  TO BID ON AN OPERATOR'S JOB 

WHICH WE HAD ON THE BUL LET IN  BOARD AT THAT TIME.

NOW, THAT WAS THE STATEMENT WE MADE TO 

THEM DURING NOVEMBER 8TH, BUT I AM SURE THE COURT 

I S  AWARE OF THE FACT THAT INJUNCTION WAS GRANTED 

LATER THAT WEEK WHICH HELD UP THIS SEN IORITY  CHANGE 

TO THESE EFFECT ED CLASS PEOPLE.

WE DISCUSSED THAT,  MRS. MCDONALD, AT THE 

PREVIOUS T R IA L  WHEN YOUR ASSISTANT WAS HERE.

Q NOW, ON NOVEMBER 8TH THE UNION HAD ALREADY MADE

THEIR REQUEST FOR AN INJUNCTION,  IS THAT CORRECT?

A THAT IS RIGHT.

Q WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT  WAS GENERALLY KNOWN IN THE

PLANT THAT THE UNION WAS TRYING TO GET AN INJUNCTIOf  

CONCERNING THIS CHANGE?

A I WOULD ASSUME SO,  MRS. MCDONALD, BUT I NEED TO 

SAY THAT A LOT OF THINGS ARE KNOWN IN THE PLANT 

THAT I DON'T KNOW, THAT I AM NOT ON OUR GRAPEVINE.

9 ™ IS  PROPOSAL OF NOVEMBER 8 ,  ' 7 1 ,  WAS L IM ITE D TO

t h e  p r o d u c t i o n , i s  t h a t  c o r r e c t ?

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A L IM ITE D TO WHAT?

Q L IM IT ED  TO THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT, OR DID IT  

APPLY TO ALL DEPARTMENTS?

A I T  A PPL IED  TO ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

Q NOW, DID THIS NOVEMBER 8 ,  1971 PROPOSAL PROVIDE
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THAT AN EMPLOYEE WHO CHOSE TO E X E R C I S E  THIS OFFER  

WOULD NOT RETAIN SE NI ORI TY  IN HIS HOME DEPARTMENT?

A THAT IS RIGHT .  HE COULD NOT HOLD A TWENTY-F IVE

YEAR S EN IO RI T Y  IN BOTH, THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT 

AND THE LABOR DEPARTMENT. HE COULD CARRY IT  WITH | 

HIM BUT HE COULDN'T RETAIN AND CARRY - -  IS  THAT 

YOUR QUESTION?

A Y E S ,  THAT IS THE QUESTION.  THE ANSWER IS Y E S ,

IS  THAT RIGHT?

A THAT IS RIGHT.

Q DID THIS PROPOSAL ALSO PROVIDE THAT THERE WOULD BE 

A ONE-TIME OPPORTUNITY?

A YES .

Q I T  COULD BE DONE ONCE, YOU COULD CHOOSE TO GO TO 

THE DEPARTMENT ONCE AND BRING YOUR FULL PLANT 

SE N I O R I T Y  WITH YOU, IS THAT RIGHT?

A THAT IS RIGHT.  I F  YOU WILL LET ME AGAIN POINT 

OUT THAT HE COULD HAVE GONE TO THE BALER HELPER  

C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  AND I F  HE HAD NOT ADVANCED BEYOND 

THE BALER HELPER C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  IN PRODUCTION

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THEN HE COULD HAVE TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER DEPART­

MENT AND CARRIED HIS S ENI OR I TY  TO THE OTHER DEPART  

MENT .

Q AND WITH THIS EXCE PTI ON IT WAS A ONE -T IME TRANSFER,  

IS THAT RIGHT?

A RI GH T.

Q NOW, SUPPOSE AN EMPLOYEE TRANSFERRED TO A DEPART­

MENT UNDER THE COMPANY'S PROPOSAL OF NOVEMBER 8 TH 

AND HE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE I T ,  EITHER HE P HY SI CA LL Y  

WAS NOT ABLE TO PERFORM THE JOB OR FOUND OUT THAT 

HE D I D N ' T  L I KE  IT AFTER HE GOT IT —  NOW, UNDER 

THE NOVEMBER 8 TH PROPOSAL HE DID NOT RETAIN  

S E N IO R IT Y  IN HIS HOME DEPARTMENT,  SO WHAT WOULD 

THAT EMPLOYEE DO?

A WELL ,  IF HE WAS D I S Q U A L I F I E D  AND COUL DN' T  DO THE 

JOB WE WOULD TRANSFER HIM BACK WHERE HE WAS AND 

HE WOULD HOLD THE SENIORITY IN THE JOB TO WHICH HE 

HAD BEEN TRANSFERRED BACK.

NOW, WAS THERE MENTION OF THE RIGHT OF AN EMPLOYEE  

IN THE E F F E C T E D  CLASS TO RETAIN TO HIS HOME DEPART 

MENT IF HE WAS D I S Q U A L I F I E D  IN THE WRITTEN S T A T E ­

MENT THAT A COMPANY GAVE THE E F F E C T E D  CLASS?

I DON'T  RECALL  THAT WE DID MAKE THAT POINT IN THE 

WRITTEN STATEMENT.

BUT YOU WERE SAYING THAT IT WAS THE POLICY OF THEQ
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COMPANY TO ADVISE  EMPLOYEES OF THIS R IGHT ,  THOUGH?|I
A THAT IS THE POL ICY  WE HAVE IN GENERAL,  THAT I F  A

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MAN IS D I S Q U A L I F I E D  HE GOES BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT 

FROM WHENCE HE CAME.

Q I F  AN EMPLOYEE OF THE EFFECT ED CLASS E X E R C I S E S  THE 

NOVEMBER 8TH RIGHT AND TRANSFERS TO ANOTHER DE­

PARTMENT, FOUND OUT HE D IDN’ T L I K E  THE JOB ,  HE 

COULDN’ T RETURN TO HIS HOME DEPARTMENT, COULD HE,  

WITH ITS  S E N I O R I T Y ?

A WELL,  IT  WAS A ONE-TIME PROPOSAL.  HE COULDN’ T 

CHOOSE AND TRY AND MAKE REPEATED CHOICES .

Q NOW, WHO WAS THIS EFFECT ED CLASS THAT YOU HAVE

MENTIONED? YOU HAVE USED THE WORD ’’ EFFECTED C L A S S . "  

WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

A ALL RIGHT .  WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYEES IN 

RESIDENCE HIRED PRIOR TO 1957 .

Q SEPTEMBER 7 TH ?

A R IG HT ,  HIRED PRIOR TO THAT TIME AND WITH RESIDENCE  

OF OR HAD THE IR  EMPLOYMENT IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT.  

DO YOU WANT ME TO - -

Q WERE THESE EMPLOYEES HIRED PRIOR TO '57  OR EM­

PLOYEES HIRED PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 7 TH, ' 6 5 ?

A WELL,  IT WAS ORIG INALLY  ’ 57 ,  BUT WE HAVE EXTENDED 

I T  AND LENGTHENED THE L I S T  TO SEPTEMBER 7 T H , 1 9 6 5 .

Q NOW, THE PRE-57  GROUP WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL  BLACKS

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OR OTHER M I N O R I T I E S ,  IS  THAT CORRECT?

A R IGHT .

Q BLACKS OR ME X I CAN-AMERI CANS?

A R IGHT .

Q NOW, WHY IS I T  1 THE COMPANY GAVE THESE PRE-

57 GROUPS AN OPPORTUNITY TO E X E R C I S E  THIS NOVEMBER 

8 TH RIGHT?

A WHY DID WE G I VE  THEM THE RIGHT ON NOVEMBER 8 TH ?

Q Y E S .  WHY DID THE COMPANY - -

A I NEED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU, MRS. MC DONALD, WE GAVE

THEM OFFERS PREVIOUS TO NOVEMBER 8 ,  1971.

Q I UNDERSTAND, BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT - -

A BUT THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST THAT WE 

DO SO BY THE O . F . C . C .  OR THE O F F I C E  OF FEDERAL  

CONTRACT COMPLIANCE COMMISSION, WHICH IS ADMINIST­

ERED BY THE A . E . C .  IN OUR PLANT.

Q WHY ARE EMPLOYEES HIRED IN 1957 IN THE LABOR DE­

PARTMENT, WHY NOT HIREDIN OTHER PLACES?

A SEPTEMBER 7 ,  1965 WAS THE DAY IN WHICH WE BEGAN 

THE EMPLOYMENT OF A WHITE OR A CAUCASIAN IN THE 

LABOR DEPARTMENT.
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YOU MEAN WHY THE SELECT ION OF THAT AS THE

DATE?

Q YES .

A WHAT IS THEREASON FOR THE SELECT ION OF THAT DATE?

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Q IS  IT  TRUE THAT NONE OF THE WHITE EMPLOYEES HIRED
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PRIOR TO 1957 HAVE TRANSFERRED FROM THEIR DEPART­

MENT THAT THEY WERE HIRED INTO?

A NO, THAT IS NOT TRUE.

Q THAT IS  NOT TRUE?

A NO.

Q NOW, WOULD A WHITE PERSON WHO IS HIRED AND WOULD 

HAVE TO BE IN A DEPARTMENT OTHER THAN LABOR OR 

HAVE TO TAKE AND ACHIEVE A CERTAIN SCORE ON TESTS  

I F  HE TRANSFERRED FROM HIS DEPARTMENT AFTER ' 5 7 ?

A YES .

Q SO THAT I F  SUCH AN EMPLOYEE HAS TRANSFERRED HE 

HAS TAKEN THE T E ST S ?

A R IGHT .

Q DOES THE COMPANY HAVE THE SCORES FOR THESE IN­

DIVIDUALS WHO TOOK THESE TE ST S ?

A WELL,  I CAN’ T ASSURE YOU THAT WE HAVE EVER SCORE OF
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EVERY EMPLOYEE WHO EVER TOOK A T E S T .  WE HAVE A LOT 

OF THEM. WE HAVE LOANED OUT TESTS TO FOREMEN AND 

PEOPLE L I K E  T H I S .  WE GAVE SOME TESTS TO THE

UN IVERS ITY  OF HOUSTON PSYCHOLOGISTS WHO ARE CON-
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SULTING .

Q DOES THE COMPANY HAVE TEST SCORES FOR ANY EMPLOYEE  

HIRED PRE-57  EXCEPT FOR BLACK EMPLOYEES?

A EXCEPT FOR BLACK EMPLOYEES?
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Q THE REASON I ASK IS I D IDN'T  GET ANY. I ASKED 

FOR SOME AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE NONE.

UNLESS YOU CAN CORRECT ME, I F  SO,  I 

WOULD L I K E  TO FIND OUT.

MR. BURCH: YOUR HONOR, I DON'T 

KNOW I F  A REQUEST L I K E  THAT HAS BEEN 

MADE. WE HAVE FURNISHED AS FAR AS I KNOVf 

ALL THE TEST  SCORES AND THE TEST  DATA 

WE HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR.  I HAVE ONE SET  

OF TEST  SCORES THAT WE WERE ASKED ABOUT 

JUST A DAY OR TWO AGO FOR TEN NAMED 

BLACK EMPLOYEES WHICH I HAVE FURNISHED.

MRS. MC DONALD. WHAT I DID,

I SPOKE WITH MR. GOFORTH. I HAD DATA ON 

PR E- 19 57  BLACKS,  EDUCATIONAL LE VE L  AND 

TEST SCORES.  AFTER THE RESPONSES WERE 

GIVEN TO ME I DID NOT HAVE THAT ON 

PRE-57  WHITES.  I HAVE GOTTEN THE EDU­

CATIONAL L E V E L ,  BUT NO TEST SCORES.  I F  

THERE ARE SOME I WOULD L I K E  TO FIND OUT.

MR. BURCH: I KNOW WE WERE

ASKED FOR EDUCATIONAL LEVELS  FOR PRE-  

1957 WHITES.  I T  TOOK SOME TIME AND WAS 

COMPILED AND GIVEN TO YOU.

THE COURT: I DON'T WANT TO
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Q

A

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INDULGE IN THE ANSWERS TO INTERROGATORIES  

AT THIS T IME.  I HAD RATHER HAVE YOU D I ­

RECT YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE WITNESS AS TO 

WHAT HE HAS. IN THE EVENT THE ANSWERS 

DEVELOP INFORMATION THAT HAS NOT COME 

TO YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE,  WHY TAKE IT  

UP IMMEDIATELY WITH COUNSEL AT THE 

INTERMISSION.

TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, MR. VAN OS DAL L , HAVE ANY 

WHITE PERSONS HIRED PRIOR TO 1956 TAKEN THE TEST  

THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE COMPANY - - P R I O R  TO ’ 57 ,  EX­

CUSE ME.

MAY I SAY F I R S T ,  MRS. MC DONALD, THAT I REALLY  

DON'T KNOW OF ANY WHITE EMPLOYEE HIRED IN PRIOR 

TO 1956 WHO HAS TRANSFERRED.

IT  WOULD BE PRIOR TO ’ 57 ,  ACTUALLY.

PRIOR TO ' 5 7 ,  Y E S .

MRS. MC DONALD: NOTHING

FURTHER,  YOUR HONOR.

THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.  MR.

BURCH.

MR. BURCH: JUST A COUPLE OF

QUESTIONS,  YOUR HONOR, AND I WOULD RE­

SERVE MOST OF MINE UNTIL  OUR DIRECT  

TESTIMONY.

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THE COURT: I UNDERSTAND.

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. BURCH:

Q MR. VAN OS DAL L , I THINK YOU MAY HAVE MADE THIS  

CLEAR,  BUT I WOULD L I K E  TO BE SURE IT  I S .  YOU 

HAVE USED THE TERM " E FF EC T ED  CLASS" WITH A PAR­

TICULAR MEANING, HAVE YOU NOT?

A I HAVE.

Q AND WITHOUT GOING INTO THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT YOU 

AND THE ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION OR PREVIOUS  

GOVERNMENT AGENCIES HAVE SAID TO ONE ANOTHER, IS  

I T  CORRECT OR NOT THAT ABOUT 1968 THE COMPANY 

MADE A PARTICULAR TRANSFER OPPORTUNITY OVER TO 

CERTAIN EMPLOYEES IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A THAT IS CORRECT.

Q AND WHAT GROUP WAS GIVEN THE OFFER IN ' 6 8 ?

A THOSE HIRED PRIOR TO 1957.

Q ALL RIGHT.  AND AT THAT TIME IN YOUR DEALINGS WITH 

THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY DID YOU ESTABL ISH THIS TERM 

" E F F E C T E D  CLASS" TO REFER TO THAT GROUP?

A THIS WAS THE TERM THAT THEY USED WITH US AND WE 

USE ,  I GUESS,  IN RETURN SO TO SPEAK.

Q ALL RIGHT.  YOU AGAIN MADE A S P E C I A L  TRANSFER

OPPORTUNITY OVER TO A CERTAIN GROUP OF EMPLOYEES

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IN 1969,  DID YOU NOT?

A THAT IS RIGHT.  WE DID.

Q AND AT THAT TIME WHAT GROUP WAS GIVEN THIS OFFER?

A THOSE HIRED PRIOR TO 1957.

Q ALL RIGHT ,  S I R .  THEN IN 1971 ,  IN NOVEMBER WHEN 

YOU MADE THE OFF ER ,  THE GROUP WAS EXPANDED, WAS 

I T  NOT?

A THAT IS CORRECT.

Q NOW, THE D E F IN I T I O N  OF THE GROUP IN 1971 ,  WAS

THAT ARRIVED AT BY DISCUSSION OR NEGOTIATION  

WITH THE A . E . C .  OR IN WHAT MANNER WAS THAT NEW 

D E F IN I T I O N  CREATED?

A WHEN YOU ARE SAYING THE D E F I N I T I O N ,  YOU ARE TALK­

ING ABOUT THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE IN THE EFFECTED  

CLASS?

Q I 'M TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THE CLASS WAS EXTENDED

TO INCLUDE PERSONS HIRED PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 7,  1965

A THE EXTENTION AND THE MAKE-UP OF THE GROUP, SO

TO SPEAK,  WAS AS REQUESTED OF US BY THE REVIEWING  

O F F I C E R  OF THE A . E . C .

Q ALL RIGHT.  YOU WERE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT 

YOUR AWARENESS OF THE RESULTS OF TESTS THAT WERE 

BEING GIVEN IN 1970 ,  AND WHETHER YOU WERE AWARE 

THAT THOSE T E S T S ,  THAT MORE BLACKS F A I L E D  THOSE 

TESTS THAN WHITES.  I WILL ASK YOU F I R S T ,  DO YOU

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ADMINISTER TESTS OR DID YOU ADMINISTER TESTS IN
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THE NORMAL ROUTINE OF OPERATING YOUR DEPARTMENT?

A PERSONALLY?

Q Y E S ,  S I R .

A NO, VERY RARELY.

Q PARDON ME?

A VERY RARELY.  THERE WOULD BE DAYS WHEN MR. MOSLEY 

WOULD BE ON VACATION AND THAT SORT OF THING AND 

I WOULD GIVE  THE T E S T S .

Q IN 1970 ,  THE PERIOD MRS. MC DONALD ASKED YOU ABOUT.

WAS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON TO BE AWARE OF 

THE EF F E C T  OF THE TEST ON HIRING BLACKS,  OR DO 

YOU REMEMBER IN 1970 GIVING ANY WEIGHT TO THAT 

CIRCUMSTANCE?

A I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING A POINT THAT

WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT OR WE THOUGHT WAS OF 

INTEREST TO OUR T ES T IN G .  BY THAT, I MEAN THAT WE j 

WERE S T I L L  HIRING BLACKS AND THE PERCENTAGES SHOWN 

IN OUR RECORDS,  AND THE FACTS THAT WE WERE GIVING  

MORE TESTS TO BLACKS THAN WE WERE TO WHITES IN 

ORDER TO HIRE THAT PERCENTAGE,  WE D IDN'T  F E E L  THAT 

WAS OF GREAT CONCERN TO US.

Q NOW, AT ANY TIME IN THE PAST PRIOR TO 1970 WAS IT  

EVER NOTED OR DISCUSSED THAT A HIGHER PERCENTAGE  

OF BLACKS THAN WHITES PERHAPS HAD NOT PASSED THESE

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A S INCE 1970?

Q NO, I AM SAYING IN THE PAST PRIOR TO 1970 WHETHER 

OR NOT YOU CAN GIVE  US A DATE,  JUST T E L L  US WHAT 

THE FACTS WERE.

A I CAN'T RECALL THIS BEING A MATTER OF EXAMINATION

OR DI SCUSS ION .  I REALLY DON'T.

Q AT THE TIME YOU SUSPENDED YOUR USE OF THE EMPLOY­

MENT TESTS WAS IT  THE B E L I E F  OF THE COMPANY THAT 

THOSE TESTS WERE IN ANY WAY IMPROPER OR UNLAWFUL? 

A NO.

Q WHY DID YOU SUSPEND THE USE OF THE T E ST S ?

A BECAUSE THE REVIEWING O F F IC E R  OF THE ATOMIC

ENERGY COMMISSION MADE SUCH A REQUEST IN ORDER TO 

APPROVE AFF IRMATIVE ACTION PROGRAM.

Q YOU WERE ASKED SEVERAL QUESTIONS HERE ABOUT THE

TRANSFER OF WHITES HIRED BEFORE 1957 FROM ONE DE­

PARTMENT TO ANOTHER. IS IT  YOUR TESTIMONY THAT

AS OF THIS TIME YOU SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW THE NAME
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OF ANY SUCH WHITE?

A THAT IS MY TESTIMONY.
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Q IS  I T  YOUR TESTIMONY OR NOT THAT YOU B E L I E V E  SOME 

SUCH TRANSFERS HAVE OCCURRED, OR DO YOU HAVE AN 

OPINION OR B E L I E F  OR ANY KNOWLEDGE ON THE SUBJECT  

AT THIS POINT?

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A WELL,  MY B E L I E F  IS THAT THESE EMPLOYEES HIRED
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THEIR  D I V I S I O N  SEN IO RIT Y  IN ORDER TO TRANSFER TO 

ANOTHER D I V I S I O N .  I CAN'T THINK OF ANY INDIVIDUAL  

WHO HAS DONE THAT.

JUST IN GENERAL,  IT  WOULD BE MY OPINION 

THAT IT  IS VERY L I K E L Y  THAT NONE DID.

Q ALL  RIGHT.  AGAIN,  I 'M ASKING YOU ABOUT WHITES 

HIRED BEFORE 1957.

A I UNDERSTAND.

Q ALL RIGHT ,  S I R .

A MAY I MAKE THIS POINT - -

Q NO. WE WILL  TRY TO KEEP IT  SHORT.

A ALL  RIGHT.

Q I F  A PR E-1957  WHITE HAD DESIRED TO TRANSFER FROM 

ONE D I V I S I O N  TO ANOTHER IS I T  CORRECT OR NOT 

THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO THE SAME 

SEN IO RI T Y  REQUIREMENTS AS A BLACK EMPLOYEE,  FOR 

EXAMPLE,  WHO WANTED TO TRANSFER FROM A LABOR 

DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER?

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EMPLOYEE,  RIGHT.

Q WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE 

LABOR CONTRACT AS IT  A PPL IED  TO ALL EMPLOYEES?

A OF COURSE THE LABOR CONTRACT DIDN' T SPEC I FY THE

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TESTS AND EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENT.

Q I 'M ASKING YOU ABOUT THE S E N I O R I T Y .

A EXCUSE ME. THE S E N I O R I T Y ,  AS YOU EXPLAINED UNDER 

THE LABOR CONTRACT.

Q AS FAR AS YOU KNOW I F  A PR E- 195 7  WHITE HAD R E ­

QUESTED TO TRANSFER FROM ONE D I V I S I O N  TO ANOTHER 

OR DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER AT THE TIME YOU WERE US­

ING THE TEST WOULD IT  HAVE BEEN THE POLICY  OF THE

COMPANY TO REQUIRE THEM TO TAKE THOSE T E ST S ?
A YES .

Q NOW, LET ME ASK YOU JUST A DET AI L  THAT MIGHT BE

WELL TO CLEAR UP. IN THE DEPARTMENTS OTHER THAN 

PRODUCTION AND THE LABOR DEPARTMENT IS IT  COR­

RECT THAT THE ENTRY LEVEL  JOB IS THE ONLY JOB IN 

THOSE DEPARTMENTS?

A P R A C T IC A L LY ,  Y E S .

Q THERE ARE A FEW EXCEPTIONS WHERE YOU HAVE LEAD

MAN TYPE JOBS,  IS  THAT CORRECT?

A Y E S ,  THAT IS CORRECT.

Q ALL  RIGHT.  IS  IT  CORRECT OR NOT THAT IN THE PRO­

DUCTION DEPARTMENT THERE ARE SEVERAL HIGHER-PAY ING 

JOBS THAN THE JOB OF BALER HELPER?

A THAT IS TRUE.

MR. BURCH: ALL RIGHT.  PASS

THE WITNESS.

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MR. WHEAT: YOUR HONOR, WE HAV
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NO QUESTIONS OF THIS WITNESS AT THIS  

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MRS. MC DONALD: JUST A COUPLE

OF QUESTIONS.

REDIRECT  EXAMINATION 

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q IS I T  TRUE,  MR. VAN OSDALL,  THAT AN EMPLOYEE HIRED 

PRIOR TO 1957 DID NOT HAVE TO TAKE A TEST  OR 

S A T I S F Y  THE EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO REMAIN 

ON HIS  JOB IN PRODUCTION; IS THAT TRUE?

A THAT IS TRUE.

Q IS  I T  ALSO TRUE THAT HE DID NOT HAVE TO SA T I SF Y  

THESE REQUIREMENTS,  PRE-57  EMPLOYEES,  TO PROMOTE 

TO A HIGHER PAYING JOB WITHIN PRODUCTION?

A THAT IS TRUE.

Q IS THAT TRUE FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL?

A EXCEPT FOR THE LABOR DEPARTMENT, YE S .

Q NOW, EVEN IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT THERE WAS NO
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REQUIREMENT THAT HE TAKE A TEST TO REMAIN ON THE

JOB, IS THAT TRUE?

A Y ES , THAT IS TRUE.

Q NOW, YOU HAVE T E S T I F I E D  THAT THE COMPANY DROPPED

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THAT A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF BLACKS WERE FA IL IN G  

TO PASS THE PRE-EMPLOYMENT TESTS THAN WHITES?

MR. BURCH: I OB JECT ,  YOUR

HONOR, ON THE GROUNDS THAT IS COMPLETELY  

IRRELEVANT TO ANY ISSUE IN THE CASE.

THE COURT: I WILL OVERRULE

THE OBJECT ION.

YOU MAY ANSWER THE QUESTION.

A THEY MAY HAVE. I REALLY DON'T - -  I HAVEN'T RE­

VIEWED THAT.  I F  THEY DID IT  IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 

SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

Q NOW, THEY WERE MAKING THE REVIEW IN A P R I L  OF THIS  

YEAR,  IS  THIS CORRECT?

A WELL,  THEY CAME TO ME F I R S T  IN JANUARY, RIGHT.

Q AND THE COMPANY DROPPED THE TESTS IN A P R I L ,  IS

THIS R IGHT ,  OF THIS YEAR?

A THAT IS RIGHT.

Q ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU DO NOT RECALL IT  BEING  

MADE KNOWN TO YOU THAT A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF 

NEGROES WERE F A I L I N G  THE TEST  THAN WHITES?

A MRS. MC DONALD, I HAVE TO T EL L  YOU THAT THERE WERE 

TWO MONTHS I WAS OUT S I C K .  DURING THOSE TWO 

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Q HAS IT  COME TO YOUR ATTENTION THIS FACT THAT I

HAVE JUST MENTIONED, THE GREATER NUMBER OF NEGROES 

WERE F A IL IN G THE PRE-EMPLOYMENT TESTS THAN 

WHITES?

A NOT TRYING TO AVOID AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION,

I 'M TRYING TO REMEMBER I F  THEY MADE THAT POINT TO 

US.  I F  YOU HAVE EVIDENCE THAT SAYS THEY D ID,  I 

WILL SAY Y E S .  I ASSUME YOU DO.

Q WHY DID A . E . C .  ASK YOU TO DROP THE TE ST S ?

A I UNDERSTOOD THEIR LARGE CONCERN OR PART OF THEIR  

CONCERN WAS THAT THEY WEREN'T GIVING THE LABORERS 

AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFER.

Q BUT YOU ALSO DROPPED THE TESTS FOR I N I T I A L  EM­

PLOYMENT, IS THAT CORRECT?

A THAT IS TRUE.

Q IN APRIL  OF THIS YEAR?

A UM-HUM.

Q WHY DID A . E . C .  ASK YOU TO DROP THESE T E ST S ?

A (NO RESPONSE.  )

MR. BURCH: YOUR HONOR, I WANT

TO - -  FOR THE RECORD,SHE HAS NOW GONE 

INTO THE THINKING AND THE POSITION OF 

THE A . E . C . ,  WHICH IS NOT BINDING ON US 

AND NOT RELEVANT TO ANY ISSUE IN THE 

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THE COURT: I RECOGNIZE THAT,

MR. BURCH. HE CAN SIMPLY T E L L  WHAT 

HE KNOWS. I F  HE HAS INFORMATION THAT 

WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION,  I WILL  PERMIT 

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A WELL,  MRS. MC DONALD, AS I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION
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OR THE LETTERS INVOLVING THE TESTS IN ISSUE  THEY 

WERE OF A FORM NATURE AND DIDN’ T BECOME S P E C I F I C  

AS TO OUR PROBLEM AS TO OUR PR A C T IC ES .  I CERTAINLY  

FORMED THE IMPRESSION THAT A . E . C .  NOT ONLY TOOK 

THIS POSITION WITH US BUT THEY WERE TAKING IT  

WITH EVERY COMPANY THAT WAS TE ST ING.

NOW, THIS IS MY BEST UNDERSTANDING, THAT
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THEY D IDN’ T TAKE THEIR  POSITION WITH US BASED ON 

OUR DATA. THEY TOOK THE POSITION WITH US BASED 

ON THEIR GENERAL P R A C T IC E ,  AND THEIR GENERAL  

PRACTICE  IS  THAT THEY WON’ T APPROVE TE ST IN G.

Q UNLESS WHAT - -  JUST ABSOLUTELY THEY WON’ T APPROVE 

TEST ING?

A THAT IS WHAT I HAVE HEARD. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE 

BEEN TOLD.

Q WHEN I WAS QUESTIONING YOU PRIOR TO MR. BURCH’ S 

QUESTIONS I B E L I E V E  YOU T E S T I F I E D  THAT YOU WERE 

AWARE OF THE FACT THAT FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME,  

1970 ,  THE YEAR OF 1970 ,  THAT A GREATER PERCENTAGE
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OF BLACKS HAD BEEN REJECTED FOR EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE  

OF THEIR  FALURE TO PASS PRE-EMPLOYMENT TESTS THAN 

WHITES .  IS  THAT TRUE OR NOT TRUE? I REALLY WANT 

YOU TO ANSWER YES OR NO.

A I THOUGHT I ANSWERED THAT ONCE, MRS. MC DONALD.

Q WHAT WAS YOUR ANSWER?

A I THOUGHT I SAID Y E S .

Q Y E S .  I HAVE NOTHING FURTHERCN THAT.

WITH REFERENCE TO THE TRANSFER OPPORTU­

NITY THAT WAS GIVEN PRE-57  BLACKS IN 1968 ABOUT 

WHICH YOU HAVE T E S T I F I E D ,  IS  I T  TRUE WHEN THE 

OFFER WAS MADE IN 1968 AN EMPLOYEE WHO EXERCISED  

THIS RIGHT WOULD LOSE HIS D I V I S I O N  SE N IO RI T Y  IN 

HIS HOME DEPARTMENT AFTER TWO YEARS?

A THAT'S CORRECT.

Q IS IT  ALSO TRUE HE WOULD NOT BRING WITH HIM HIS  

SEN IO RIT Y  AND THAT HIS D I V I S I O N  S EN IO RI T Y  WOULD 

BEGIN ANEW FROM THE DATE HE TRANSFERRED?

A THAT IS TRUE.

Q IS  IT  ALSO TRUE AT THE TIME OF THIS 1968 OFFER

SUCH AN EMPLOYEE HAD TO BE ABLE TO PASS THE TESTS?

A THE 1968 OFF ER ,  Y ES .

Q NOW, IS IT  TRUE AT THIS TIME THAT SUCH AN EMPLOYEE

HAD TO HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA OR C E R T I F I C A T E ?

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Q WAS THAT REDUCED?

A Y E S .

Q TO WHAT L E V E L ?

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Q IN 1969,  AGAIN TO BLACK EMPLOYEES HIRED PRIOR

TO ’ 57 ,  WAS I T  TRUE THAT AT THIS TIME AN EMPLOYEE 

CHOOSING TO E X E R C I S E  THIS OFFER WOULD LOSE HIS  

SEN IO RIT Y  IN HIS HOME DEPARTMENT AFTER TWO YEARS?

A THAT’ S CORRECT.

Q IS  I T  ALSO TRUE AT THIS TIME HE DID NOT BRING

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BEGIN FROM THE DAY OF HIS TRANSFER?

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Q IS  IT  TRUE IN 1969 SUCH EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE TO 

PASS THE TESTS THAT WERE BEING GIVEN?

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YOUR HONOR.

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THE COURT: ALL RIGHT .  YOU MAY

STEP DOWN.

THE COURT: AT THIS TIME WE WILL  TAKE A
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THE COURT: CALL YOUR NEXT WITNESS.

MRS. MC DONALD: MR. R.  L .  JOHNSON.

R.  L .  JOHNSON,

P L A I N T I F F  IN THE ABOVE-STYLED CAUSE,  HAVING F I R S T  

AFFIRMED TO T E L L  THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING 

BUT THE TRUTH, T E S T I F I E D  AS FOLLOWS:

DIRECT EXAMINATION 

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, PL EA S E .

A MY NAME IS  R.  L .  JOHNSON.

Q AND MR. JOHNSON, ARE YOU THE P L A I N T I F F  IN THIS  

LAWSUIT?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q MR. JOHNSON, FOR THE RECORD WHAT IS YOUR RACE?

A BLACK.

Q WHEN WERE YOU F I R S T  EMPLOYED BY THE DEFENDANT

COMPANY?

A IN 1944 ,  SEPTEMBER 18TH.

Q AND IN WHAT DEPARTMENT WERE YOU EMPLOYED? SEE I F

YOU CAN TALK UP JUST A L I T T L E  B I T .  I 'M A LONG * 1

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WAYS FROM YOU. WHAT DEPARTMENT WERE YOU EMPLOYED?

A AS A TRUCK DRIVER .

Q IN WHAT DEPARTMENT WAS THAT?

A THAT’ S THE LABOR DEPARTMENT.

Q IN WHAT DEPARTMENT ARE YOU PRESENTLY EMPLOYED?

A LABOR DEPARTMENT.

Q WHAT JOB DO YOU HAVE?

A AS A JANITOR.

Q WHAT IS YOUR PAY RATE?

A FOUR ONE.

Q PER HOUR?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q MR. JOHNSON, HOW FAR DID YOU GET IN SCHOOL?

A ELEVENTH GRADE.

Q WHERE DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL?

A LIMESTONE COUNTY, ACRES HIGH,  KOUNTZE,  TEXAS.

Q NOW, MR. JOHNSON, IN EVIDENCE AS P L A I N T I F F ’ S EX­

H I B I T  1 IS  THE CHARGE THAT YOU F I L E D  WITH THE 

EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION AGAINST  

THE DEFENDANTS,  AND I WANT YOU TO REFER TO THAT 

CHARGE, PARTICULARLY THE F I R S T  SENTENCE OF THE 

CHARGE. WOULD YOU JUST READ THAT F I R S T  SENTENCE  

TO THE COURT, PL EAS E .

A THE GOODYEAR COMPANY HAS A PRACTICE  OF UPGRADING

NEGROES IN ONE MANNER AND THE WAY THEY UPGRADE THE

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OKAY. NOW , MR. JOHNSON, WHEN YOU F I L E D  THIS  

CHARGE WHAT DID YOU COMPLAIN OF S P E C I F I C A L L Y ?  I 

KNOW THAT IS  A GENERAL STATEMENT, BUT T E L L  THE 

COURT WHAT YOU WERE COMPLAINING OF?

I WAS COMPLAINING —

MR. BURCH: WHAT MR. JOHNSON

HAD IN MIND IS NOT RELEVANT.  THE CHARGE 

SPEAKS FOR I T S E L F .

THE COURT: I WILL  PERMIT HIM

TO EXPLAIN THE CHARGE. I AM ASSUMING
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WILL  KEEP I T  WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE
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CONTEXT OF THE STATEMENT.  I WILL  PERMIT

YOUR ANSWER. I DON’ T WANT A NEW ANSWER.  

I WANT AN ELABORATION UPON THE CHARGE.

I WAS COMPLAINING OF THE EDUCATION,  THE TEST IN G.  

NOW, DID YOU HOLD A POSITION WITH THE UNION?

I AM THE STEWARD.

YOU ARE A STEWARD?

Y E S ,  MA'AM.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A STEWARD?

SAY APPROXIMATELY S INCE  ' 6 2 .

YOU ARE PRESENTLY A STEWARD, IS THAT RIGHT?

Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

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Q WHAT BA SICALLY  ARE YOUR R E S P O N S I B I L I T I E S  AS A 

STEWARD?

A I REPRESENT THE MEMBERS OF THE LABOR DEPARTMENT,  

OTHER MEMBERS.

Q NOW, WHEN YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL  

REQUIREMENTS CAN YOU T E L L  THE COURT IN YOUR OWN 

WORDS WHAT I T  WAS ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL REQUIRE­

MENT THAT YOU B E L I E V E  NOW TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST  

BLACKS?

A WELL,  I F E L T  THAT THE EDUCATION THOSE WHITES THAT 

WERE HIRED THE SAME TIME I WAS DIDN’ T HAVE TO 

TAKE THE T E S T ,  AND ALSO WASN’ T REQUIRED TO HAVE A
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HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, AND YOU COULD TRANSFER WITH­

OUT LOSS OF S E N I O R I T Y .
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Q WERE ANY OTHER EMPLOYEES REQUIRED TO TAKE A TEST

OR TO S A T I S F Y  A PARTICULAR EDUCATIONAL L E V E L ,  ANY ^
'OTHER BLACKS?

A I BEG YOUR PARDON, MA’ AM.

Q WERE ANY OTHER BLACKS REQUIRED TO TAKE A TEST OR  ̂

HAVE A PARTICULAR EDUCATIONAL LE VE L ?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.
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Q WHO WERE THESE BLACKS?

THE COURT: MR. JOHNSON, I ’ M

HAVING D I F F I C U L T Y  HEARING YOU AND I ’ M

ONLY TEN FE E T  AWAY. I WANT YOU TO SPEAK
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UP SO EVERY LAWYER IN THIS ROOM CAN 

HEAR YOU VERY,  VERY CLEARLY .  WILL  YOU 

DO THAT, PLEASE?

Q NOW, WHO HAD TO TAKE THE TESTS AND WHO HAD TO BE 

SUBJECTED TO THE EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS,  WHAT 

BLACKS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

A I 'M SPEAKING OF THE BLACKS THAT WERE HIRED PRIOR 

TO ’ 57.

Q AND THE BLACKS WHO WERE HIRED AFTER ’ 57 IN THE

LABOR DEPARTMENT, DID THEY HAVE TO TAKE A TEST AND 

ACHIEVE A CERTAIN EDUCATIONAL LE VE L  TO GET OUT 

OF THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q NOW, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOUR SE NI ORI TY  I F  YOU 

CHOSE TO LEAVE ,  TRANSFER,  FROM THE LABOR DEPART­

MENT? HOW WOULD THE SE NI ORI TY  OPERATE?

A WELL,  PRIOR TO 1970 YOU WOULD LOSE YOUR SENIORITY  

AFTER TWO YEARS,  TWENTY-FOUR MONTHS.

Q IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.
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MENT?

A NO, MA’ AM.

Q NOW, DID THE COMPANY OFFER YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO

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A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q AND DID YOU ACCEPT THAT OFFER?

A NO, MA'AM.

Q WHY DIDN’ T YOU?

A WELL,  I F  I TRANSFERRED I WOULD LOSE MY S E N I O R I T Y .

Q YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BRING IT  WITH YOU?

A NO, MA'AM.

Q NOW, DID YOU INDICATE THAT YOU WANTED TO TRANSFER,  

A TRANSFER,  THAT YOU WOULD ACCEPT A TRANSFER?

DID YOU INDICATE THAT YOU WOULD ACCEPT A TRANSFER?  

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS WOULD YOU ACCEPT A TRANSFER?

A WELL,  UNDER THE CONDITIONS THAT I WOULD BE ABLE

TO BRING MY S E N I O R I T Y .

Q NOW, WHAT JOBS DID YOU INDICATE IN 1969 THAT YOU 

WOULD ACCEPT,  WHAT DEPARTMENT?

A THE PRODUCTION, THE U T I L I T Y ,  FIREMAN.

Q SPEAK UP JUST A L I T T L E  LOUDER.

A THE U T I L I T I E S ,  THE PRODUCTION AND THE F I R E  DE­

PARTMENT.

Q THE PRODUCTION, THE U T I L I T I E S  AND THE F I R E  DEPART­

MENT.

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q WERE YOU OFFERED IN 1969 AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFE

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IN 1969 WERE YOU OFFERED AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRANS FE 

TO THE F I R E  DEPARTMENT?

NO, MA' AM.

IN 1969 WERE YOU OFFERED AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRANS FE 

TO PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT?

BALER HELPER.

TO THE BALER HELPER?

Y E S ,  MA' AM.

WHY D I D N ' T  YOU TAKE THAT?

BECAUSE AFTER TWO YEARS I WOULD LOSE A L L  MY 

S E N I O R I T Y .

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO BRING YOUR S ENI ORI T Y  WITH 

YOU?

NO,  MA' AM.

DID YOU WANT TO TRANSFER TO A JOB ABOVE BALER  

HELPER?

Y E S ,  MA' AM.

WERE YOU OFFERED THE RIGHT TO TRANSFER TO A JOB 

ABOVE BALER HELPER?

WHEN WAS THIS?

IN *69?

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A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

THE COURT: YOU MEAN 1971?

MRS. MC DONALD: Y E S .  NOVEM­

BER OF 1971.

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q NOW, DID YOU ACCEPT THAT OFFER?

A NO, MA'AM.

Q WHY DIDN'T YOU ACCEPT THE OFFER?

A THERE,  AGAIN,  THAT I WOULD STAND TO LOSE MY

SE N IO RI T Y  I F  I TRANSFERRED.  I HEARD RUMORS THERE 

WOULD BE AN INJUNCTION SO I WAS KIND OF RELUCTANT  

TO TRANSFER.

Q I 'M SORRY,  I D IDN'T  HEAR YOU.

A I SAID THERE,  AGAIN,  I F  I WOULD HAVE TRANSFERRED 

I WOULD LOSE MY SEN IO RI T Y  AND I FE L T  THAT THERE 

WOULD BE AN INJUNCTION.  THE UNION WAS TALKING  

INJUNCTION.

Q NOW, YOU WOULD LOSE YOUR SE NI ORI TY  IN THE LABOR 

DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q NOW, IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR DID THE CONTRACT 

BETWEEN THE COMPANY AND THE UNION PROVIDE THAT 

YOU WOULD LOSE YOUR SE NI ORI TY  IN YOUR OWN DEPART­

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A NO, MA'AM. YOU WOULD ALWAYS RETAIN THE DEPART­

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Q BUT THE OFFER AT THAT TIME THAT THE COMPANY MADE, 

YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU WOULD NOT KEEP YOUR 

SEN IO RIT Y  IN YOUR HOME DEPARTMENT, IS THAT CORRECT!?

A THAT'S RIGHT.

Q NOW, HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN THE TESTS THAT HAVE

BEEN GIVEN BY THE COMPANY?

A NO, MA'AM.

Q WHY IS IT  YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN THESE T E ST S ?

A WELL,  I WAS HIRED IN 1944 .  ALONG THIS TIME THERE 

WAS A NUMBER OF WHITES THAT WAS HIRED THE SAME 

TIME AS I .  THEY D IDN'T  HAVE TO TAKE THE T ES T ,

SO I FELT  I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE I T .

Q DID YOU F E E L  THAT THE TESTS HAD ANYTHING TO DO 

WITH THE JOBS?

A NO, MA’ AM.

Q NOW, AS P L A I N T I F F  IN THIS LAWSUIT ARE YOU TRYING

TO GET R E L I E F  FOR YOURSELF OR ARE YOU TRYING TO 

GET R E L I E F  FOR OTHER BLACKS?

A I ’ M TRYING TO GET R E L I E F  FOR OTHER BLACKS ,  MYSELF  

AND OTHER BLACKS.

Q ARE THESE BLACKS THAT HAVE BEEN HIRED IN THE

LABOR DEPARTMENT?

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A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q NOW, IN YOUR OPINION,  MR. JOHNSON, HAS THE DE­

FENDANT UNION REPRESENTED YOU AND THE OTHER BLACKS 

F A I R L Y ?

A NO, MA'AM, I DON'T F E E L  L I K E .

Q I 'M SORRY,  I D IDN'T  HEAR YOU.

A I SAY NO MA'AM.

Q WHY DO YOU F E E L  THEY HAVEN'T REPRESENTED YOU 

F A I R L Y ?

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THEY SHOULD, THESE THINGS,  TRYING TO COME UP TO 

UPGRADE THE BLACK FROM THE LABOR D I V I S I O N ,  AND I 

F E E L  THAT THEY SHOULD.

Q HAS THE UNION DONE ANYTHING ABOUT THE TEST ING AND 

EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE?

A NO, MA'AM.

Q DO YOU F E E L  THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE HAS THE UNION EVER AGREED TO 

THE TESTING AND HIGH SCHOOL REQUIREMENTS?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q HOW HAVE THEY AGREED TO I T ?

A BY NOT SAYING ANYTHING OR NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT
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Q DO YOU KNOW A MR. DEMBY, D - E - M - B - Y ?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q WHAT IS HIS RACE?

A H E ' S  BLACK.

Q TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE HAS MR. DEMBY EVER BEEN TRANS­

FERRED TO A JOB OUT OF THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM, ON ONE OCCASION,  MR. DEMBY WAS TRANS­

FERRED TO THE 1220 JOB.

Q WHAT DEPARTMENT IS THAT, 1220?

A STOREROOM AND R ECE IV IN G AND CLERKING.

Q WAS HE TRANSFERRED AS A STOREROOM CLERK?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM. I N I T I A L L Y  HE TOOK THE JOB AS A 

BATCH-UP JOB IN THE DEPARTMENT.

Q WHAT IS A BATCH-UP JOB?

A THEY BATCH UP CHEMISTRY,  M I X . I T  WITH RUBBER.

Q I CAN’ T HEAR YOU.

A THIS IS  THE BATCH-UP OF CHEMISTRY THAT GOES INTO 

THE MAKING OF THE RUBBER.

Q ARE THEY WRAPPING THINGS?

A NO. THEY IS  WEIGHING INGREDIENTS AND DRY CHEMIS1 

AND THINGS.

Q NOW, WERE YOU STEWARD AT THE TIME THAT MR. DEMBY 

WAS TRANSFERRED TO THIS JOB?

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Q IS  MR. DEMBY ON THE STOREROOM CLERK JOB NOW?

A NO, MA'AM.

Q DO YOU KNOW WHY HE IS NOT ON THAT JOB?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q WELL,  CAN YOU T E L L  THE COURT WHAT HAPPENED, I F

ANYTHING?

A AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME THERE WAS A NEED FOR A 

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KNOWLEDGE TO PERFORM THIS WORK, THE SUPERVISOR  

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FROM THE WHITE MEMBERSHIP.

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HONOR. MY OBJECTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN 

STATED A L I T T L E  E A R L I E R .  I 'M GOING TO 

OBJECT TO HIM T E S T I F Y I N G  TO THIS UNLESS 

THERE IS PREDICATE LAID TO SHOW HE 

KNOWS ABOUT THE FACTS.  AS FAR AS THE 

TESTIMONY SO FAR AS THOSE,  I T  IS COM­

P L E T E L Y  HEARSAY.

THE COURT: CAN YOU LAY A

PROPER PREDICATE?

MRS. MC DONALD: Y E S ,  YOUR

HONOR.

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A YES , MA’ AM.

Q WHO EL SE  WAS PRESENT?

A THERE WAS MR. MARTY JACKSON. I B E L I E V E  AT THE 

TIME MR. VAN OSDALL,  AND PERHAPS MR. COLEMAN.

Q MR. JACKSON, WHAT JOB DID HE HAVE?

A HE WAS CH IE F  STEWARD.

Q WITH THE UNION?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q AND MR. COLEMAN, WHO IS MR. COLEMAN?

A HE IS  IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR IN THE LABOR DEPART­

MENT.

Q CAN YOU T E L L  THE COURT WHAT WENT ON ON THAT DAY?

A WELL,  AS I SAY,  THERE WAS A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS

FROM THE WHITE GROUPS, I MEAN, WHITE PEOPLE FROM 

THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

Q DID MR. VAN OSDALL STATE WHY HE WAS TAKING MR. 

DEMBY OFF OF THAT JOB?

A MR. VAN OSDALL INFORMED MR. DEMBY THAT HE HAD NOT 

ENOUGH EDUCATION TO HOLD THIS JOB.

Q DID HE REFER TO THE TESTING?

A HE HADN'T TAKEN THE T E S T ,  Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q AND WAS THE CH IE F  STEWARD, MR. JACKSON, WAS HE

PRESENT WHEN THIS STATEMENT WAS MADE?

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AND HE DIDN'T  SAY ANYTHING, JUST AGREED THAT THIS  

WAS THE THING TO DO FOR HIM, TO REMOVE HIM FROM 

THE JOB.

Q MR. DEMBY IS A BLACK WHO WAS HIRED BEFORE '57  IN 

THE LABOR DEPARTMENT, IS THAT RIGHT?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q HAVE YOU EVER COMPLAINED TO THE DEFENDANT UNION 

ABOUT THE SEN IO RI T Y  SYSTEM AS IT  IS A PPL IE D  TO 

YOU AND OTHER BLACKS IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM. I MADE SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO TRY TO 

COMPLAIN TO THEM.

Q YOU HAVE TRIED TO DO WHAT?

A TR IED  TO, YOU KNOW, COMPLAIN TO THEM ABOUT I T .

Q WHO HAVE YOU TRIED TO COMPLAIN TO?

A VARIOUS COMMITTEEMENS, C H IE F  STEWARDS.

Q AND CAN YOU GIV E  ME THE NAME OF THE CH IE F  STEWARD 

WHOM YOU HAVE COMPLAINED TO ABOUT T H I S ?

A I HAVE TALKED TO A MR. JACK E • VAUGHAN AND TO A MR. 

BEN HASSEY ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

Q WHAT HAS BEEN THEIR PO SIT IO N ,  THEIR RESPONSE?

A MR. HASSEY AND MR. VAUGHAN BOTH HAS STATED THAT

THEY DIDN'T F E E L  THAT S E N I O R I T I E S  CAN BE ANYTHING 

DONE ABOUT IT  AS FAR AS ME TRANSFERRING TO A

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HIGHER JOB.

Q WERE YOU COMPLAINING TO THESE STEWARDS ABOUT THE 

FACT YOU COULDN'T BRING YOUR SENIORITY  WITH YOU 

I F  YOU TRANSFERRED?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

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THER,  YOUR HONOR.

THE COURT: CROSS EXAMINE,  MR.

BURCH.

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. BURCH:

Q MR. JOHNSON, JUST TO START AT THE LAST HERE,  YOU 

WERE TALKING ABOUT AN INCIDENT WITH A MR. DEMBY.  

WHEN DID THIS INCIDENT YOU HAVE TOLD US ABOUT 

OCCUR?

A SOMEWHERE BETWEEN AROUND '6 9  OR '65  - -  ' 6 3 ,  ALONG

IN THERE.

Q YOU SAY IT  WAS SOMETIME BETWEEN 1963 AND ' 6 5 ?

A YES .

Q WAS IT  AT A TIME WHEN IT WAS THE STATED POLICY OF

THE COMPANY THAT EMPLOYEES WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE 

HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION AND PASS A TEST TO TRANSFER 

INTO DEPARTMENTS OTHER THAN LABOR, IS THAT CORRECT'?

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Q IS  IT  YOUR TESTIMONY THAT MR. DENBY WAS TAKEN

OFF OF A JOB IN STORES AND REC E IV ING BECAUSE HE 

HAD NOT PASSED A TEST?

A I D IDN'T  QUITE UNDERSTAND YOU, S I R .

Q WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR MR. DENBY BEING REMOVED 

FROM THE JOB AT STORES AND R EC E I V IN G ?

A WELL,  IT  WAS SAID HE HADN'T PASSED THE REQUIREMENT 

T E S T ,  THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.

Q I S E E .  AT THE PRESENT TIME IN YOUR JOB AS A J A N I ­

TOR DO YOU WORK DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS, THE 

DAY S H I F T ,  AT THE PLANT?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q ARE MOST OF THE JOBS IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT JOBS 

THAT WORK DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q ARE THE JOBS IN THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT JOBS 

THAT OPERATE TWENTY-FOUR HOURS A DAY?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q DO YOU KNOW WHETHER EMPLOYEES WHO GO INTO PRODUCTI  

ARE SUBJECT TO BEING PUT ON S H I FT  WORK AND RE­

QUIRED TO WORK SAY DURING THE EVENING OR THE 

GRAVEYARD S H I F T ?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q IS  THAT CONSIDERED A DES IRABLE  OR UNDESIRABLE

WORKING HOUR GENERALLY AT THE PLANT?
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A WELL ,  I UNDERSTAND BY SOME,  YEAH.

Q IT IS CONSIDERED UNDESIRABLE BY SOME,  IS THAT COR­

RECT?

A YES .

Q NOW, THERE IS NOT ANY DISPUTE THAT IN 1969 YOU WERI  

OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFER INTO PRODUC­

TION WITHOUT BEING REQUIRED TO TAKE A T E S T ,  I S N ' T  

THAT CORRECT?

A TO THE BALING ROOM, Y E S ,  S I R .

Q NOW, I S N ’ T IT CORRECT,  MR. JOHNSON,  THAT OVER

THE YEARS GENERALLY EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE GONE INTO 

THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT HAVE STARTED OUT IN THE 

BALER ROOM WORKING AS A BALER HELPER?

A I WOULDN'T - -  YOU SAY

Q AS A GENERAL RULE H A V E N' T  MOST EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE 

STARTED OUT IN PRODUCTION STARTED AS A BALER 

HELPER?

A I WOULD SAY THE GREATEST PERCENTAGE,  Y E S .

Q I S N ' T  IT CORRECT THAT A BALER HELPER IN THE PRO­

DUCTION DEPARTMENT PRIMARILY WORKS AT TAKING 

BALES OF SYNTHETI C RUBBER OFF THE END OF THE PRO­

DUCTION LINE AND SEEING THAT THEY GET INTO A 

PACKING CRATE?

A YOU SAY GENERALLY?

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A I WOULDN’ T KNOW, S I R .

Q BEG YOUR PARDON?

A I SAY I WOULDN’ T KNOW, NO, S I R .

Q DIDN'T YOU T E L L  ME THE OTHER DAY WHEN I TOOK

YOUR DEPOSITION THAT YOU DIDN’ T REALLY WANT TO 

WORK IN THE BALER ROOM AS A BALER HELPER?

A I MEAN, I D IDN’ T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE HARDNESS

PART,  HOW HARD IT  WAS OR MY KNOWLEDGE OF HOW HARD 

I T  WAS.

Q I S E E .  WHY DID YOU NOT WANT TO WORK AS A BALER  

HELPER ,  MR. JOHNSON?

A WELL,  BECAUSE THE TIME THAT I WAS OFFERED TO WORK 

I WOULD LOSE ALL MY S E N I O R I T Y .

Q D IDN'T  YOU T E S T I F Y  ON DEPOSITION THAT THE MAIN

REASON YOU TURNED DOWN THE BALER H E L P E R ’ S JOB IN 

PRODUCTION IS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T  WANT TO WORK ON 

THAT JOB?

A I DIDN'T  F E E L  THAT I SHOULD HAVE TO WORK AT THAT 

JOB .
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Q I B E L I E V E  YOU T E S T I F I E D  HERE THIS MORNING THAT 

YOU FE L T  L I K E  YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO 

PRODUCTION AT SOME HIGHER POINT THAN BALER HELPER.

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A YES .

Q AND WOULD IT  BE CORRECT TO SAY THAT THIS IS BE ­

CAUSE YOU F E E L  YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE PLANT AS LONG 

AS SOME OF THE WHITES WHO WERE HIRED BEFORE 1957?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q ALL R IGHT .  AND I S N ’ T IT  ALSO CORRECT THAT SINCE

YOU HAD COMPLETED HIGH SCHOOL, AT LEAST S INCE  

ABOUT 1962 YOU REAL IZED  THAT YOU COULD HAVE MOVED 

INTO PRODUCTION BY TAKING A TEST AND GOING OVER 

THERE UNDER THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT?

A I GUESS THAT IS P O S S I B L E .  THERE,  AGAIN,  I FELT  

THAT I SHOULDN’ T HAVE TO TAKE THEM BECAUSE THE 

WHITE HIRED THE SAME TIME AS I DIDN'T  HAVE TO 

TAKE THE T E S T S .

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NUMEROUS NEGROES HIRED INTO THE LABOR DEPARTMENT 

WHO FROM 1962 RIGHT DOWN TO THIS DATE HAVE GONE 

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AND WORKED UP THROUGH THOSE JOBS?
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SOME BLACK EMPLOYEES IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT FROM

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TO TAKE THE TEST  AND MOVE INTO PRODUCTION?

A I WOULD SAY SO.

Q AND WOULD IT  BE AN ACCURATE AND FAIR STATEMENT TO 

SAY THAT YOU F E L T  IN YOUR SITUATION THAT YOU HAD 

THE RIGHT NOT TO BE REQUIRED TO TAKE THAT TEST?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q AND FOR THAT REASON YOU CHOSE NOT TO?

A RIGHT .

Q ALL  RIGHT .  NOW, THERE 'S  NOT ANY DOUBT THAT OVER

THE YEARS - -  L E T ' S  TALK JUST ABOUT WHITE EMPLOYEES  

- -  WHEN WHITE EMPLOYEES HAVE GONE INTO THE PRO­

DUCTION DEPARTMENT GENERALLY THEY HAVE BEEN RE­

QUIRED TO START AT THAT LOWEST JOB OF BALER HELPER  

AND WORK THE IR  WAY UP, HAVEN'T THEY?

A I WOULDN'T SAY ALL OF THEM, NO, S I R .

Q S I R ?

A NO, S I R .  I WOULDN'T SAY ALL OF THEM.

Q WOULDN’ T YOU SAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE

TO DO THAT?

A I WOULD S T I L L  SAY NOT ALL OF THEM.

Q DO YOU REALLY KNOW - -  I THINK YOU TOLD US A MINUTE

AGO YOU DIDN’ T KNOW WHAT THE JOB WAS L I K E .  DO 

YOU KNOW WHAT THE ROUTINE HAS BEEN IN THAT DE­

PARTMENT?

A YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THOSE STARTING?

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L E V E L ,  BUT I THINK YOU WAS MENTIONING ABOUT THOSE 

THAT WENT DI RE CTL Y  TO OPERATIONS OR SOMETHING.

Q MAYBE WE CAN GET AT IT  THIS WAY: L E T ' S  JUST TALK

NOW ABOUT WHITE EMPLOYEES OVER THE YEARS WHO HAVE 

BEEN HIRED DI RECTLY  INTO PRODUCTION. I S N ' T  IT  

TRUE THAT GENERALLY MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE 

STARTED AT BALER HELPER AND WORKED THEIR WAY UP 

IN PRODUCTION?

A WELL,  I MEAN, THAT I S ,  I T  DEPENDS ON HOW MANY,

YOU SAY.

Q ALL  RIGHT.  MR. JOHNSON, WE TALKED ABOUT YOUR 

CHARGE THE OTHER DAY ON THE DEPOSITION AND THE 

REASON YOU F I L E D  I T ,  AND I WILL JUST ASK YOU THIS  

- -  I F  YOU WANT TO REFER TO IT  - -  DID YOU SAY 

ANYTHING IN YOUR CHARGE ABOUT EDUCATION?

A S P E C I F I C A L L Y  YOU MEAN WORK, EDUCATION?

Q Y E S ,  S I R .

A I T ' S  NOT IN THERE.

Q IN YOUR CHARGE DID YOU SAY ANYTHING S P E C I F I C A L L Y

ABOUT THE SEN IO RI T Y  SYSTEM?

A WELL,  I MEAN, IT  ALL DEPENDS.

Q DO YOU FIND ANYTHING IN THERE?

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F I L E D  THE CHARGE YOUR COMPLAINT WAS BASICALLY  

WHAT YOU HAVE SAID HERE TODAY, YOU DIDN'T F E E L  

THAT BLACKS HIRED BEFORE '57 SHOULD BE REQUIRED 

TO TAKE THE T ES T ?  WASN'T THAT YOUR POSIT ION?

A I T  MAY BE ,  Y E S .

Q AND AT THAT TIME IT  WAS YOUR B E L I E F  THAT WHITES 

HIRED BEFORE '57  DIDN'T  HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE 

THE T E S T ,  DIDN'T  HAVE TO GO BACK AND COMPLETE HIGH 

SCHOOL?

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Q THAT BASICALLY  IS YOUR COMPLAINT AND HOW YOU FELT

THE COMPANY HAD DISCRIMINATED?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

THE COURT: I WILL  INTERRUPT

YOU AT THIS T IME ,  MR. BURCH. IT  IS  

1 2 : 3 0 .  IT  IS  THE NORMAL TIME WE RUN 

IN THIS COURT.

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THE COURT: MR. BURCH.

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A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TIME THIS YEAR
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AROUND NOVEMBER WHEN YOU WERE OFFERED AN OPPOR­

TUNITY TO TRANSFER TO THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT 

AND TO CARRY YOUR LABOR DEPARTMENT SEN IO RIT Y  

WITH YOU. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT OFFER?

Y E S ,  S I R .

AND WHO TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT OFFER?

MR. VAN OSDALL.

DID MR. VAN OSDALL GIVE  YOU A WRITTEN STATEMENT 

ABOUT THE OFFER AS WELL?

Y E S ,  S I R .

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TO MOVE TO THE BALER HELPER JOB AND WORKED THERE 

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OPERATOR'S JOB YOU WOULD PROMOTE UP TO?

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HAVE YOU PRESENTED IN BEHALF OF BLACK EMPLOYEES 

ANY GRIEVANCE TO THE COMPANY OBJECTING TO THE

COMPANY'S USE OF A HIGH SCHOOL OR TEST REQUIREMENT
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Q HAVE YOU PRESENTED ANY GRIEVANCE TO THE COMPANY

ON BEHALF OF BLACK EMPLOYEES OBJECTING TO THE 

DEPARTMENTAL SEN IORITY  PLAN UNDER THE UNION CON­

TRACT?

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Q DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE E L S E  WHO HAS PRESENTED SUCH 

A GRIEVANCE?

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Q AND IN THE PAST HAS THERE BEEN OCCASIONS WHEN

WHITE EMPLOYEES WERE LAID OFF OUT OF OTHER DEPART­

MENTS DUE TO A REDUCTION OF FORCE AND BLACK EM­

PLOYEES IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT REMAINED ON THE 

JOB?

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Q IN THOSE INSTANCES THE DEPARTMENTAL SEN IO RIT Y

ARRANGEMENT IN FACT PROTECTED THE LABOR DEPARTMENT 

EMPLOYEES,  D IDN'T  I T ?

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Q WOULD IT BE AN ACCURATE STATEMENT THAT A MAJORITY 

OF THE EMPLOYEES,  THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE UNION,  

PREFER THE DEPARTMENTAL SE NI ORI TY  ARRANGEMENT AND 

IN FACT HAVE VOTED TO KEEP IT  THAT WAY?

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THE OBJECTION.  I WILL HEAR HIS ANSWER.

HE CAN SAY INSOFAR AS HE KNOWS.

A SO FAR AS I KNOW, Y ES .

Q ALL  RIGHT.  NOW, YOU T E S T I F I E D  EA R L IE R  TODAY

ABOUT YOUR OBJECTION TO STARTING OFF IN THE BALER 

H E L P E R ’ S JOB I F  YOU MOVE TO PRODUCTION. I WANT TO 

SIMPLY ASK YOU T H I S :  I S N ’ T IT  WELL KNOWN THAT THE

EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN HIRED INTO PRODUCTION IN 

THE F I R S T  INSTANCE,  OVER THE YEARS,  WHETHER BLACK 

OR WHITE,  HAVE STARTED OUT IN THAT BOTTOM JOB OF 

BALER HELPER?

A I DIDN'T QUITE GET THE F I R S T  PART.

Q I S N ' T  IT  TRUE THAT OVER THE YEARS EVERY EMPLOYEE

WHO HAS BEEN HIRED INTO THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT,  

WHETHER HE WAS BLACK OR WHITE,  HAS STARTED IN THE 

BALER HELPER JOB?

YOU SAY THE MAJORITY?

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Q I SAY ALL OF THEM.

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Q YOU WOULDN'T CONCUR?

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A AFTER THAT, SOMETIME.  IT  WAS PRIOR TO ' 4 4 .

Q PRIOR TO ' 4 4 ?

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OPERATIONS SOMETIME IN 1944? I

A YEAH,  ' 4 3 ,  SOMETHING L I K E  THAT. IT  WAS ' 4 3 ,  ' 4 4 .

Q AT THAT POINT EMPLOYEES WHEN THE I N I T I A L  WORK

FORCE WAS HIRED PEOPLE WERE OBVIOUSLY HIRED INTO 

ALL  OF THE JOBS THAT E X I S T E D  AT THAT T IME ,  WEREN'T  

THEY?

A THAT IS P O S S I B L E ,  Y E S ,  S I R .

Q NOW, ASIDE FROM THE PLANT'S STARTING UP IN 1944

CAN YOU T E L L  US ANY PERSON WHO HAS STARTED IN THE

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A OH, YOU MEAN NAMES?

Q Y E S ,  S I R .

A I MEAN, I ' D  SAY SOME OF THAT OTHER GROUP.

Q CAN YOU NAME ONE?

A NO, I COULDN'T NAME THEM.

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YOUR HONOR.

THE COURT: MR. WHEAT.

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. WHEAT:

Q A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR STEWARDSHIP,  MR.

JOHNSON. WHO ORIGINALLY APPOINTED YOU AS STEWARD? 

A L .  G.  MOORE.

Q IS HE WHITE OR BLACK?

A HE 'S  WHITE.

Q ALL  RIGHT .  WHEN DID HE F I R S T  APPOINT YOU?

A I WOULD SAY AROUND ' 6 2 ,  SOMEWHERE. IT  COULD BE

PRIOR.

Q HAS HE BEEN CH IE F  STEWARD S INCE HE APPOINTED YOU 

OR HAVE THERE BEEN OTHER CHIEF  STEWARDS?

A THERE HAVE BEEN OTHERS,  Y E S .

Q ALL R IGHT .  I S N ’ T IT  TRUE THAT YOU ARE APPOINTED

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A TO THE STEWARDSHIP?

Q YES , S I R .

A Y E S ,  I WOULD SAY SO.

Q DO YOU RECALL  A HR.  TITSWORTH?

A YES ,  S I R .

Q IS IT TRUE HE WAS THE CHI EF  STEWARD IN ABOUT 

1962?

A I DON' T  KNOW.

Q IS IT TRUE THAT HE WAS CHI EF  STEWARD AFTER MR.

L.  G.  MOORE WAS C HI E F  STEWARD?

A I T ' S  P O S S I B L E ,  Y E S .

Q DID HE APPOINT YOU TO YOUR POSI TI ON AS STEWARD 

ALSO?

A I GUESS.

Q IS HE WHITE OR BLACK?

A H E ' S  WHITE.

Q DO YOU REMEMBER MR. MARTY JACKSON WHOM I B E L I E V E

YOU HAVE ALREADY REFERRED TO IN YOUR DI RECT T E S T I ­

MONY?

A MARTY JACKSON,  Y E S ,  S I R.

q IS IT TRUE THAT HE WAS C HI E F  STEWARD AFTER MR.  

TITSWORTH?

A I T ' S  P O S S I B L E .  COULD BE,  YEAH,

q IS IT TRUE THAT HE APPOINTED YOU TO STEWARD' S  

POSI TI ON ALSO?

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Q IS  HE WHITE OR BLACK?

A H E ' S  WHITE.

Q IS  HE THE SAME MR. JACKSON YOU REFERRED TO IN

YOUR EA R L IE R  TESTIMONY?

A Y E S ,  S I R .
Q DO YOU KNOW MR. JACK E .  VAUGHAN?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q IS  I T  TRUE HE WAS A C H IE F  STEWARD?

A YES .

Q DID HE AT ONE TIME OR OTHER APPOINT YOU TO THE

O F F I C E  OF STEWARD?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q IS HE WHITE OR BLACK?

A H E 'S  WHITE.

Q DO YOU KNOW A MR. HARRISON?

A BEN HARRISON, Y E S ,  S I R .

Q WAS HE A C H I E F  STEWARD AT ONE TIME?

A (NODDED. )

Q DID HE ALSO APPOINT YOU TO A STEWARD POSIT ION?  

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q IS  HE WHITE OR BLACK?

A WHITE.

Q ARE YOU THE ONLY BLACK STEWARD THAT REPRESENTS  

THE UNION AT GOODYEAR?

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A YOU MEAN THE ONLY BLACK? NO, S I R .

Q HOW MANY BLACK STEWARDS ARE THERE?

A YOU MEAN AT PRESENT?

Q RIGHT NOW.

A I DON’ T KNOW. I UNDERSTAND PERHAPS A NUMBER

IN PRODUCTION. I WOULDN'T KNOW THEM, S I R .  I 

WOULDN'T KNOW WHOSE ALL  IS THE NUMBER.

Q I 'M SORRY - -  YOU SAID YOU KNOW THERE ARE A NUMBER

OF BLACK STEWARDS IN THE COMPANY.

A YES .

Q APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY STEWARDS REPRESENT THE

UNION AT GOODYEAR, TOTAL NUMBER?

A OH, I DON’ T KNOW, S I R .  I WOULD SAY ROUGHLY TWENTY 

MAYBE. I WOULD NOT BE S P E C I F I C ,  BUT I WOULD SAY 

TWENTY.

Q ALL  RIGHT.  ABOUT HOW MANY OF THESE TWENTY OR SO 

STEWARDS ARE BLACK?

A AT THIS TIME I REALLY WOULDN’ T KNOW, S I R .

Q ALL  R IGHT ,  S I R .  DO YOU KNOW A MR. CHARLES BEAN?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q IS HE A STEWARD?

A I DON'T THINK SO. I MEAN - -  NO, S I R ,  I DON'T

THINK HE I S .  I DON'T B E L I E V E  HE IS NOW UNLESS HE 

HAS BEEN CONFIRMED L A T E L Y .

Q YOU MEAN HE MIGHT HAVE RECENTLY CEASED TO BE A

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A MAYBE HE HASN’ T BEEN REPLACED.

Q WHETHER HE IS  A STEWARD OR NOT NOW WAS HE AT ONE 

TIME A STEWARD?

A I UNDERSTAND THAT.

Q IS HE A BLACK STEWARD?

A HE IS A BLACK STEWARD.

Q DO YOU KNOW ROBERT WILL IAMS?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q IS  HE A STEWARD?

A I DON’ T KNOW, S I R .

Q WAS HE AT ONE TIME TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE A STEWARD?

A I UNDERSTAND, Y E S ,  S I R .

Q IS  HE A BLACK STEWARD OR WAS HE A BLACK STEWARD?

A HE IS A BLACK STEWARD.

Q DO YOU KNOW MR. BETHEL PARKER?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q IS  HE NOW OR HAS HE IN THE PAST EVEN BEEN A

STEWARD AND IS HE BLACK?

A I UNDERSTAND HE IS A STEWARD NOW, Y E S ,  S I R .

Q WHAT ABOUT MR. GRANT?

A I ALSO UNDERSTAND MR. GRANT IS A STEWARD.

Q SAME THING AS TO MR. GRANT?

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A I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE HAS BEEN CONFIRMED OR

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Q WHETHER HE HAS BEEN WHAT?

A BEEN APPOINTED.

Q WAS HE AT ONE TIME IN STEWARD CAPACITY?

A NO, S I R .  I DON'T THINK SO.

Q I F  YOU DON'T KNOW - -

A I 'M SPEAKING - -  TO MY MIND T H E RE ’ S SEVERAL DARDENS 

THERE.

Q DO YOU KNOW A MR. DARDEN WHO IS OR HAS BEEN 

STEWARD?

A WHICH ONE?

Q OH, ANY OF THEM.

A I B E L I E V E  AT ONE TIME I HAVE HEARD C.  DARDEN.

Q WAS THAT MR. DARDEN BLACK OR WHITE?

A H E ' S  BLACK.

Q ALL RIGHT .  CAN YOU NAME ANY OTHER STEWARDS OUT 

OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STEWARDS THAT ARE BLACK?

A S I R ?

Q CAN YOU NAME ANY OTHER BLACK STEWARDS OUT OF THE 

TOTAL NUMBER OF STEWARDS?

A I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

Q CAN YOU THINK OF ANY OTHER STEWARDS NOW WORKING 

FOR THE COMPANY WHO ARE BLACK OTHER THAN THESE  

WE HAVE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT?

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A STEWARDS NOW? NO, S I R .  I DON'T KNOW OF ANY.

Q AS A STEWARD YOURSELF DO YOU REPRESENT BOTH 

BLACK AND WHITE EMPLOYEES?

A IN MY GROUP, Y E S ,  S I R .

Q HAVE YOU EVER F I L E D  A GRIEVANCE ON BEHALF OF A 

WHITE EMPLOYEE THAT YOU REPRESENT?

A I HAVE ATTEMPTED - -  A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES I 

HAVE ATTEMPTED.

Q YOU HAVE ATTEMPTED TO?

A YES .

Q WHAT WAS THE NATURE OF YOUR ATTEMPT?

A WELL,  I MEAN, THAT I S ,  ASK THE CH IE F  STEWARD OR

THE COMMITTEEMAN TO TAKE SUCH A GRIEVANCE.

Q DID YOU PRESENT IT  TO THEM IN WRITING?

A WELL,  NOT ALL THE T IME ,  NO, S I R .  I MEAN, IT  WAS 

DISCUSSED AND THEY T EL L  ME I SHOULD F I L E .

Q ARE THERE NOT FORMS FOR THE PREPARATION OF G R I E V ­

ANCES?

A Y E S ,  S I R .  I MEAN, SOMETIMES.  THE Y 'RE  NOT ALWAYS 

AV A IL A BL E ,  NO.

Q WELL,  ALL RIGHT .  HAVE YOU EVER F I L L E D  OUT A GR I EV -
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Q DO YOU IMAGINE OR DO YOU KNOW? ARE YOU SAYING 

YOU DON’ T KNOW?

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OUT ONE, I DON’ T RECALL ACTUALLY F I L L I N G  I T  OUT 

OR GETTING IT  PROCESSED AS I CAN RE CALL .

Q CAN YOU NAME FOR THE COURT ANY WHITE EMPLOYEE THAT 

YOU EVER F I L E D  A GRIEVANCE ON BEHALF OF?

A I 'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE NATURE OF THE GRIEVANCE.

Q TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS YOU NEED AND SEE  I F  YOU CAN

THINK OF ONE.

Q I CAN RECALL A GRIEVANCE ATTEMPT TO BE SUBMITTED 

OR PERHAPS IT  MIGHT HAVE EVEN BEEN ONE THAT WAS 

NOT, ON BEHALF OF MR. O ’ NEAL,  JOHN O'NEAL .

Q HE IS  WHITE?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q DID YOU F I L L  OUT THE FORM?

A L I K E  I SAY,  I MIGHT HAVE SUBMITTED IT  IN WRITING,  

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE  PERTAINING TO 

THIS PERSON.

Q YOU DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER OR NOT YOU F I L L E D  OUT 

A FORM?

A I DON’ T KNOW WHETHER I D ID.

Q HAVE YOU EVER F I L E D  A WRITTEN GRIEVANCE ON BEHALF

OF A BLACK EMPLOYEE?
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Q WHO WAS THAT?

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Q OH, ANY THAT YOU CAN NAME FOR US.

A S I R ?

Q ANY THAT YOU CAN NAME.

A RECENTLY ,  Y E S ,  S I R ,  I F I L E D  ONE IN BEHALF OF THE 

CHERRY P I C K E R .

Q THE CHERRY P I C K E R ,  REFERRING TO A PARTICULAR TYPE 

OF OVERHEAD CRANE?

A YES .

Q ALL RIGHT.  WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT, MR. JOHNSON?

A WELL,  THIS PARTICULAR JOB WAS ONCE I N I T I A T E D  IN

THE LABOR DEPARTMENT AND I T  WAS OUT AND PLACED IN 

AN ALL-WHITE  GROUP AND WE SUBMITTED A GRIEVANCE  

CONTESTING I T .

Q NOW, MR. JOHNSON, I S N ' T  IT  TRUE THAT THIS WAS A

DISPUTE OVER WHICH GROUP OF EMPLOYEES WOULD OPER­

ATE THAT PARTICULAR P I E C E  OF EQUIPMENT? THAT WAS 

THE PROBLEM?

A THAT IS WHAT WAS SAID ,  S I R .

Q I S N ' T  IT FURTHER TRUE THERE WAS A DISPUTE  BETWEEN 

THIS UNION, THE ENGINEERS,  AND ANOTHER UNION AS TO 

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A NO, S I R .  I DON’ T THINK IT  IS THE CASE.

Q WASN'T IT  A FACT A J U R IS D I C T I O N A L  DISPUTE WAS HAD

BETWEEN TWO UNIONS?

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Q IS  IT  OR IS I T  NOT TRUE THAT GRIEVANCES HAVE BEEN 

F I L E D ,  PROSECUTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO ARBITRA­

TION,  ON BEHALF OF BLACK EMPLOYEES?

A NONE THAT I HAVE WRITTEN,  NO, S I R .

Q NONE YOU HAVE WRITTEN?

A NO, S I R .

Q HOW MANY HAVE YOU WRITTEN?

A OH, I WOULDN’ T HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF HOW MANY, 

BUT A BUNCH OF THEM.

Q COULD YOU NAME ONE?

A L I K E  I SAY,  I NAMED YOU THAT ONE.

Q THE CHERRY P I C K E R ?

A I THINK ON THAT PARTICULAR GRIEVANCE THERE ,  THERE 

WAS ANOTHER SUBMITTED ON THE C I TY  ORDER OF THE 

JANITORS AND THE CHANGE OF THE JANITORS ,  AND I 

WORKED IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT.

Q WHEN WAS THAT?

A THAT WAS THIS PAST,  PROBABLY THIS PAST SEPTEMBER.

Q OF 1970 OR ’ 71?

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Q DID YOU PRESENT THAT GRIEVANCE YOURSELF?

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Q WELL,  E I T HE R  ONE, MR. JOHNSON.

A I MIGHT HAVE HANDED I T  IN TO THE COMPANY. I DON’ T 

KNOW.

Q WAS IT  IN WRITING?

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Q DID YOU SIGN I T ?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q WHAT HAPPENED TO IT  AFTER THAT?

A WELL,  ON SOME OF THEM I RE CE IVED AN ANSWER, SO I 

DIDN’ T - -

Q WE’ RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ONE, AREN’ T WE? WE’ RE 

TALKING ABOUT SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.  YOU SAID  

YOU PRESENTED IT  IN WRITING TO THE COMPANY?

A THE CHERRY P ICKER  AND THE JA NITORIAL  S ITUATION,  

EACH ONE OF THEM WAS IN ’ 71 ,  THIS YEAR.

Q LET ME ASK YOU JUST ABOUT THE ONE YOU F I L E D  IN

SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR THAT YOU PRESENTED TO THE 

COMPANY. WHAT WAS THAT GRIEVANCE ABOUT?

A THIS GRIEVANCE WAS CONTESTING THE CONTRACT AND THE

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Q ALL  RIGHT .  WHO DID YOU GIV E  THE FORM TO, WHO DID 

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THEM. I DON'T KNOW.

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F I L E D  IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

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Q WHAT ABOUT LAST YEAR?

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Q WHY NOT?

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Q ARE STEWARDS' MEETINGS BY INVITATION ONLY OR CAN 

ALL THE STEWARDS GO?

A I GUESS THERE IS  A NOTIF ICATION OF WHO TO ATTEND.

Q WHAT ABOUT OTHER BLACK STEWARDS, DID THEY GO TO

STEWARDS' MEETINGS?

A I ' V E  HEARD OF OTHERS GOING, Y E S ,  S I R .

Q BUT YOU DIDN'T  GO BECAUSE YOU FE L T  YOU WEREN’ T

IN VI TE D?

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YOU, I SAID I DON'T KNOW I F  I WAS ALWAYS N O T I F I E D .  

I 'M SPEAKING OF THE PAST.

THERE HAVE BEEN STEWARD MEETINGS - -  I 

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I KNEW ABOUT AND DIDN’ T ATTEND.

Q WHY DIDN'T YOU ATTEND?

A WELL,  SOME REASON OR ANOTHER. I DON’ T KNOW WHY.

REALLY AND TRULY,  I D IDN'T  KNOW WHAT I HAD TO DO.

Q LET ME ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT S E N I O R I T Y .

PRESENTLY AND UNDER THE PRESENT CONTRACT IT  IS 

P O SS IB L E  FOR A LABORER,  A PERSON IN THE LABOR 

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NEW DEPARTMENT AND KEEP ALL  OF HIS PLANT SENIORITY  

FOR PURPOSES OF JOB S E C U R I T Y ,  I S N ' T  THAT TRUE?

I BEG YOUR PARDON, S I R .

LET ME REPHRASE I T  AND PUT IT  TO YOU THIS WAY:

IS  IT  TRUE THAT UNDER THE CONTRACT THAT YOU'VE GOT

NOW THAT SOMEONE IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT CAN TRANS­

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CONTRACT?

Y E S ,  S I R ;  UNDER THIS CONTRACT.

Y E S ,  S I R .

THAT IS  IN FORCE AND EF F EC T  NOW. NOW, BEFORE THIS

CONTRACT WAS NEGOTIATED THAT WASN'T P O S S I B L E ,  WAS 

I T ,  MR. JOHNSON?

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NEGOTIATIONS RESULTED IN THIS CONTRACT, DIDN'T
|YOU?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q I S N ’ T IT  TRUE THE UNION PICKED UP YOUR PROPOSAL

AND GOT I T  INCORPORATED INTO THIS CONTRACT?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q HAVE YOU EVER PROPOSED ANY OTHER CHANGES TO GO

INTO A CONTRACT?

A Y E S .  I MEAN, YOU KNOW - -  I MEAN, I HAVE SUG­

GESTED THEM. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY WERE 

ALWAYS TAKEN AS A PROPOSAL.  I HAVE WRITTEN OUT 

A PROPOSAL.

Q WHEN?

A I HAVE WRITTEN OUT SEVERAL DURING THAT PARTICULAR  

CONTRACT, I F  THAT IS WHAT YOU WERE SPEAKING OF.

Q THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR THIS CONTRACT YOU MADE MORE 

THAN ONE SUGGESTION.

A I MEAN, PROPOSAL,  Y E S ,  S I R .  I SUBMITTED OTHER

PROPOSALS,  I MEAN, R EL A T IV E  TO THE LABOR DEPART­

MENT OR PERHAPS MAYBE SOME OTHER GROUPS.

Q WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU PROPOSE?

A WELL,  I ASKED TO CHANGE THE JOB ASSIGNMENT IN

LABOR SO MAYBE PERHAPS D IFFERENT  JOBS PAY SC ALE S ,  

OR THESE THINGS.

YOU MEAN HIGHER PAY SCALE?

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Q FOR LABORERS?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q EVERYBODY’ S PRETTY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THAT, AREN'T

THEY?

A I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, WE DIDN'T GET I T .

Q ALL RIGHT.  WHAT ABOUT 1967 CONTRACT PROPOSALS,

DID YOU YOURSELF SUGGEST ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE 

PROPOSED IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS?

A EACH YEAR I WOULD SUBMIT PROPOSALS,  S I R .

Q WHAT DID YOU PROPOSE IN 1967?

A I DON'T KNOW REALLY OFFHAND, NO, I DON'T KNOW.

I T  COULD HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES. UP UNTIL  1970,  

I ' L L  SAY T H I S ,  THAT I WAS TRYING HARD TO GET THE 

SEN IO RIT Y  AND THINGS WITHIN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT 

AND VARIOUS OTHER ASPECTS THAT OCCUR IN THE 

LABOR DEPARTMENT.

Q YOU CAN'T T E L L  US WHETHER OR NOT YOU YOURSELF  

SUGGESTED OR PROPOSED ANYTHING IN 1967?

A THAT WAS NEGOTIATED ON?

Q WELL,  WHETHER IT WAS NEGOTIATED ON OR NOT, DID 

YOU SUGGEST OR PROPOSE ANYTHING?

A I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

Q ALL RIGHT ,  I F  YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU HAVE NEVER 

WORKED AS A BALER HELPER ,  HAVE YOU?

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Q BUT YOU HAVE OBSERVED PEOPLE WORKING IN THAT
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A I HAVE SEEN THEM, Y E S .

Q THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS PRETTY STRENUOUS,
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I S N ' T  I T ,  PRETTY HARD WORK?

A I DON'T KNOW.

Q HAVEN’ T YOU OBSERVED I T ?

A L I K E  I SAY,  I DON'T THINK I COULD SAY WHETHER IT  

I S  HARD OR NOT.

Q THEY HAVE TO L I F T  BALES OF RUBBER.

A I ALWAYS SEEN THEM USING POWER L I F T S  UP,  TOO, S I R .

Q DON'T THEY HAVE TO L I F T  BALES OF ABOUT EIGHTY

POUNDS EACH?

A Y E S ,  S I R .  I 'M SURE THEY DO.

Q F I V E  OR S I X  A MINUTE.

A I IMAGINE SO, Y E S ,  S I R .

Q DO YOU KNOW OF ANY WHITE PERSON WHO HAS PROGRESSED,

GOTTEN BETTER JOBS IN THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT

THAT DIDN'T  HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BALER HELPER
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JOB?
I

A YOU SAY DO I KNOW ANY?

Q Y E S ,  WHO DIDN'T  HAVE TO WORK AS BALER HELPER TO 

START OUT WITH.

A I UNDERSTAND THE F I R S T  SEN IO RI T Y  PEOPLE WAS HIRED

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IN EARLY STAGES AND DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH 

THAT.

Q ALL  R IGHT .  MR. JOHNSON, GIVE  US SOME IDEA OF HOW 

THE JOB OF BALER HELPER COMPARES WITH THE WORK 

THAT YOU ARE DOING NOW. IS  IT  E A S I E R ,  HARDER,

OR WHAT?

A L I K E  I SAY,  OF COURSE I D IDN'T  WORK BALER HELPER ,  

S I R .

Q JUST FROM YOUR OBSERVATION WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?

A WELL,  I ' L L  SAY I T ' S  E A S I E R .

Q BALER HELPER WOULD BE E A S I E R ?

A I MEAN

Q THE WORK YOU ARE DOING IS  E A S I E R ?

A NO, THAT JOB.

Q ALL R IGHT .  YOU MENTIONED A MR. DEMBY IN YOUR

DIRECT EXAMINATION.  IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WERE 

DESCRIB ING HIM, WERE YOU ACTING IN YOUR CAPACITY  

AS A STEWARD?

A SAY WAS I ACTING AS THE - -

Q IN OTHER WORDS, DID YOU YOURSELF REPRESENT DEMBY

AS HIS STEWARD?

A L I K E  I SAY,  I WAS THERE AND I KNEW ABOUT THE IN ­

C IDENT ,  Y E S ,  S I R .

Q MR. JOHNSON, WERE YOU THERE BY CHANCE OR WERE YOU 

THERE IN SOME CAPACITY AS AN O FF IC ER  OF THE UNION?

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A I MEAN, I WASN'T CALLED,  YOU MIGHT SAY,  BUT THIS

HAPPENED IN MY GENERAL AREA AND I WAS - -  I HAP­

PENED TO BE THERE.

Q WHERE DID THIS TAKE PLACE?

A THIS WAS IN THE BATCH-UP AREA.

Q IS THAT AREA WITHIN THE AREA WHERE YOU NORMALLY 

DO YOUR WORK?

A WELL,  NO. I MEAN, IT  WASN'T IN THE AREA WHERE I 

NORMALLY DO MY WORK, BUT IT  IS RIGHT AFTER THE 

SMOKING BREAK IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT NEAR OUR 

LOCKER ROOM FROM NEAR WHERE WE SMOKE OR COME TO­

GETHER.

Q DID YOU OBSERVE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TOLD US ABOUT 

WITH RESPECT TO THE EVENTS INVOLVING MR. DEMBY?

A BEG PARDON?

Q DID YOU OBSERVE THIS INCIDENT INVOLVING MR. DEMBY 

OR DID YOU T E L L  US WHAT SOMEONE E L S E  TOLD YOU?

A YOU MEAN DID I HEAR ALL THE CONVERSATION?

Q WERE YOU THERE?

A Y E S ,  S I R .  I WAS THERE.

Q HOW DID YOU HAPPEN TO BE THERE? WERE YOU WORKING 

OR ON A BREAK OR JUST V I S I T I N G  OR WHAT?

A I T  MIGHT HAVE BEEN MR. DEMBY CALLED ME DOWN, SOME­

THING,  BUT I WAS THERE.  I T ' S  BEEN QUITE A WHILE

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Q WHY WOULD HE CALL YOU DOWN?

A MR. DEMBY? !

Q UH-HUH.

A HE TOLD ME HE MIGHT BE NEEDING ME. HE HEARD THESE

PEOPLE MIGHT BE PUTTING HIM OFF.

Q WHO WAS HIS STEWARD?

A ME .

Q YOU WERE MR. DEMBY'S STEWARD?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q ALL RIGHT.  NOW, WHAT EXACTLY WAS MR. DEMBY RE­

SIGNING FROM AND REASSIGNED TO?

A I B E L I E V E  AT THAT TIME MR. DEMBY WAS - -  I B E L I E V E  

HE WAS A - -  HE COULD HAVE BEEN A JANITOR.  I 

WOULDN'T BE S P E C I F I C .

Q ALL RIGHT.  WHAT WORK DID THE SUPERVISOR PUT HIM 

TO DO AT THAT TIME?

A BATCHING UP, S I R .

Q THAT IS 1220 AS YOU REFER TO THE WORK?

A R E C E I V I N G .

Q MR. JOHNSON, I S N ' T  I T  TRUE THAT THIS WHOLE INCIDENT

INVOLVED A COMPLAINT THAT MR. DEMBY WAS BEING 

ASKED TO DO 1220 WORK AND ONLY GETTING LABORER'S  

PAY FOR I T ?

A NO, I WOULD SAY MR. DEMBY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE - -  

THE SUP ER V IS O R' S  INTENTION FOR MR. DEMBY TO HAVE
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Q PERMANENTLY OR TEMPORARILY?

A I DON'T KNOW. ALL JOBS ARE TEMPORARY.

Q HOW DID YOU KNOW WHAT THE SUPERVISOR'S  INTENTION

WAS?

A WELL,  HE TOLD ME HIS PAY WOULD START THE DAY AFTER  

THEN.

Q WAS THE TRANSFER PROCESS THROUGH THE PERSONNEL

DEPARTMENT?

A NO.

Q AREN'T ALL TRANSFERS REQUIRED TO BE PROCESSED

THROUGH THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT?

A I DON'T THINK THAT IS ALWAYS THE CASE ,  NO, S I R .

Q I S N ' T  IT  TRUE THAT THE SUPERVISOR MERELY TOOK MR.

DEMBY AND PUT HIM TO DOING SOME WORK TEMPORARILY?

A NO, S I R .  L I K E  I SAY,  I THINK HE INTENDED FOR HIM 

TO HAVE THE JOB.

Q ALL RIGHT.  DID YOU F I L E  A GRIEVANCE ON BEHALF OF 

MR. DEMBY?

A NO, I D I D N 'T .

Q ALL RIGHT.  HAVE YOU EVER IN THE ENTIRE  COURSE OF 

YOUR STEWARDSHIP HAD ANY RESTRICT IONS  WHATSOEVER 

PLACED UPON YOUR RIGHT TO F I L E  GRIEVANCES?

A BEG PARDON?

Q E I THE R  ON YOUR OWN BEHALF OR THE PEOPLE YOU

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REPRESENT?

A I DIDN’ T QUITE HEAR YOU, S I R .

Q DURING THE WHOLE TIME YOU HAVE BEEN A STEWARD,

WHICH IS SEVERAL YEARS,  HAS ANYBODY WITH THE 

UNION, ANY O F F IC E R  OF THE UNION, EVER TR IED  TO 

KEEP YOU FROM F I L I N G  A GRIEVANCE,  E I THE R  ON BEHALF  

OF YOURSELF OR ON BEHALF OF THE EMPLOYEES IT  IS  

YOUR DUTY TO REPRESENT?

A NO, S I R .
MR. WHEAT: PASS THE WITNESS.

THE COURT: ALL R IGHT ,  MR.

WHEAT.

MRS. MC DONALD.

REDIRECT  EXAMINATION 

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q MR. JOHNSON, HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH

C H IE F  STEWARDS?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q WHO HAVE BEEN ABOVE YOU DURING THE TIME THAT YOU

HAVE BEEN STEWARD ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND T ES T -   ̂

ING REQUIREMENTS,  HAVE YOU COMPLAINED TO THE CHIEF  

STEWARDS ABOUT I T ?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q HAS THE C H I E F ,  HAVE THE CH IE F  STEWARDS TOLD YOU
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THAT THE UNION CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE 

REQUIREMENTS?

Y E S ,  MA'AM.

HAVE YOU ALSO COMPLAINED TO THE CH IE F  STEWARDS 

ABOUT THE SEN IO RIT Y  PROBLEM, THAT YOU COULDN'T 

BRING YOUR SEN IO RIT Y  WITH YOU?

Y E S ,  MA'AM.

HAVE THE C H I E F  STEWARDS TOLD YOU THAT THE UNION 

COULD NOT GET THE COMPANY TO AGREE THAT YOU COULD 

BRING YOUR SEN IO RIT Y  WITH YOU?

Y E S ,  MA'AM.

MRS. MC DONALD: I HAVE NO

FURTHER QUESTIONS.

RECROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. BURCH:

Q WHEN DID YOU EVER TALK TO A CH IE F  STEWARD ABOUT

BRINGING YOUR SEN IO RIT Y  FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT 

TO SOME OTHER DEPARTMENT?

A WELL,  I THINK THIS IS THE F I R S T  - -  I TALKED TO 

MR. VAUGHAN ABOUT I T .  I THINK THAT COULD HAVE 

BEEN SOMETIME AROUND, COULD HAVE BEEN AROUND ' 6 3 ,  

SOMETHING L I K E  THAT.

Q WERE YOU TALKING TO MR. VAUGHAN ABOUT PROPOSALS TO 

BE PAID IN NEGOTIATIONS OR WHAT WERE YOU TALKING

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TO HIM ABOUT?

A WELL,  I MEAN THIS IS REGARDING A D ES IR E  TO TRANS­

FER TO THE PRODUCTION.

Q WAS THIS ABOUT THE TIME THAT THE COMPANY OFFERED  

YOU AND THE OTHERS IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT AND 

OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFER TO PRODUCTION?

A NO, THIS IS A L I T T L E  PRIOR TO THAT.

Q BEFORE THE COMPANY MADE YOU AN OFFER ,  IS THAT 

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q ALL RIGHT.  LET ME ASK YOU A L I T T L E  B I T  ABOUT THE 

CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN 1970 IN THE CONTRACT.

IS  IT  CORRECT THAT ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU 

PROPOSED HAD TO DO WITH AN EMPLOYEE RETAINING  

HIS S E N I O R I T I E S  IN THE OLD DEPARTMENT I F  HE TRANS­

FERRED TO A NEW ONE?

A THAT WAS MY - -  YOU MEAN, WAS THAT MY S P E C I F I C  

REASON?

Q WELL,  DID YOU MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT THAT BE 

CHANGED AND PUT IN THE CONTRACT?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q ALL RIGHT.  NOW, PRIOR TO 1970 NEGOTIATIONS I S N ' T

I T  CORRECT THAT I F  AN EMPLOYEE TRANSFERRED FROM ONE 

DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER HE RETAINED HIS  SENIO RITY

IN HIS OLD DEPARTMENT FOR TWO YEARS?
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A Y E S .

Q BUT NO LONGER?

A YES , S I R .

Q AND PRIOR TO THE 1970 NEGOTIATIONS I F  A MAN

WANTED TO TRANSFER HE WENT TO THE PERSONNEL DE­

PARTMENT AND MADE OUT A L I T T L E  CARD FOR THE PER­

SONNEL DEPARTMENT?

A BEG PARDON, S I R .  PRIOR TO ' 7 0 ?

Q PRIOR TO THE 1970 NEGOTIATIONS.

A NO, S I R .

Q DID YOU EVER INVEST IGATE  THE PROCEDURE OR HOW IT  

WAS THAT PEOPLE GOT TRANSFERRED?

A DID I EVER I N VES T IG ATE ?

Q YES .

A OH, Y E S ,  S I R .

Q WHAT WAS THE PROCEDURE AS YOU UNDERSTOOD I T ?

A YOU JUST HAVE TO GET SOME DEPARTMENT HEAD/ SOMEONE
*TO ACCEPT YOU OR SOMEONE TO TALK TO SOMEONE ABOUT 

TRANSFERRING YOU, SOMEONE IN THE DEPARTMENT.

Q YOU KNEW THAT THERE WAS A RULE ON HOW LONG A MAN 

RETAINED HIS SEN IO RIT Y  I F  HE DID TRANSFER?

A YOU SAID DID I KNOW THAT?

Q YES .

A Y E S ,  S I R .

I 'M TALKING ABOUT BEFORE 1970.

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A Y E S .

Q AND YOU KNEW THAT A NUMBER OF BLACK EMPLOYEES  

HAD TRANSFERRED FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT TO 

OTHER DEPARTMENTS, DIDN'T  YOU?

A ABOUT TWO.

Q HOW MANY?

A ABOUT TWO OR THREE , Y ES .

Q DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN I TOOK YOUR DEPOSITION THE 

OTHER DAY AND TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS SUBJECT  

IN MRS. MC DONALD’ S O F F I C E ?

A ABOUT THE - -

Q ABOUT THE BLACKS TRANSFERRING FROM THE LABOR DE­

PARTMENT .

A YES .

Q DIDN'T  YOU T E L L  ME AT THAT TIME YOU WERE SURE 

THERE WERE AT LEAST TWENTY?

A YOU SAID PRIOR TO ' 7 0 ?

Q Y E S ,  S I R ;  PRIOR TO 1970.

A DID I SAY TWENTY?

Q WASN’ T THAT YOUR TESTIMONY?

A NO, S I R .

Q THAT IS NOT YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY?

A NO, S I R .

Q YOU ARE SAYING BEFORE 1970 THERE WERE ONLY TWO OR

THREE,  IS THAT YOUR TESTIMONY?
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A FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT, YE S .

Q IN ANY EVENT,  IN 1970 THERE WAS A PROVISION WRIT­

TEN INTO THE CONTRACT COVERING TRANSFERS,  WASN'T 

I T ?

A IN 1970?

Q YES .

A THERE WAS A PROVISION.

Q PROVISION COVERING TRANSFERS WRITTEN IN THE CON­

TRACT.

A YES .

Q BETWEEN THE COMPANY AND THE UNION?

A YES .

Q LET ME SHOW YOU THE CONTRACT, AND I UNDERSTAND

THAT ON PAGE 21 ,  PARAGRAPH H, IS THE CLAUSE THAT 

COVERS A MAN RETAINING S E N I O R I T Y .  I WILL ASK YOU 

I F  THAT IS THE PROVISION YOU HAVE BEEN TELL ING ME 

ABOUT E A R L I E R .

A WOULD YOU STATE YOUR QUESTION AGAIN?

Q IS  THIS THE CHANGE IN THE 1970 CONTRACT THAT YOU 

SUGGESTED THAT THE UNION OUGHT TO NEGOTIATE,  OR 

IS  THAT ONE OF THE CHANGES?

A NO, S I R ;  NOT THAT.  I MEAN, THIS IS  1970?

Q Y E S , S I R .

A THIS IS NOT THE ONE .

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UNION NEGOTIATE A CHANGE SO THAT EMPLOYEES COULD 

RETAIN THE IR  SEN IO RI T Y  I F  THEY TRANSFERRED?

A IN HIS HOME - -

Q IN HIS HOME D I V IS IO N  OR DEPARTMENT.

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q D IDN'T  THEY NEGOTIATE A CLAUSE L I K E  THAT IN 1970?

A YES .

Q YOU ARE SAYING THIS PARAGRAPH H - -

A MAYBE I SHOULD READ FURTHER.  THAT IS NOT THE

PARAGRAPH.

Q THAT IS NOT THE PARAGRAPH YOU WERE T ELL IN G US ABOU 

ALL R IGHT ,  S I R .

YOU INDICATED TO ME THE OTHER DAY YOU WE 

GENERALLY FAMILIAR  WITH THE CONTRACT, D IDN'T  YOU?

A I THINK I SAID IN PART.  I DON'T THINK I DID IN 

WHOLE.
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Q ALL RIGHT.  NOW, DON'T YOU KNOW THAT UNDER THE

PRESENT CONTRACT IT  PROVIDES THAT I F  AN EMPLOYEE

TRANSFERRED FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER HE CAN 

RETAIN HIS SE N IO RI T Y  IN HIS HOME DEPARTMENT AND 

USE IT  I F  HE IS LAID OFF BY REDUCTION IN FORCE,

OR I F  HE IS  REJECTED BY THE COMPANY FOR LACK OF 

Q U A L I F I C A T I O N S .  DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THOSE TO BE 

THE RULES TODAY?

A I F  HE IS - -  SAY WHAT NOW?
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Q I F  AN EMPLOYEE WAS TRANSFERRED FROM ONE DEPART-

MENT TO ANOTHER AND AFTER A TR IA L  HE IS REJECTED

BY THE COMPANY FOR LACK OF QUALIF ICATIONS  DON'T

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT HE CAN GO BACK TO HIS HOME

DEPARTMENT?

A UNDER PRESENT, YOU SAY?

Q Y E S ,  S I R .

A YES .

Q AND DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT UNDER THE PRESENT

CONTRACT I F  A MAN TRANSFERS AND THEN IS LAID OFF

FROM HIS NEW DEPARTMENT DUE TO LACK OF WORK HE

CAN GO BACK TO HIS HOME DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SUGGESTED OUGHT TO BE PUT 

IN THE CONTRACT?

A NO, S I R .

Q ALL R IGHT .  DON’ T YOU KNOW THAT THE CONTRACT AT

THE PRESENT TIME DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR A MAN TO 

RETAIN S EN IO RI T Y  I F  HE TRANSFERS AND DECIDES HE 

DOESN'T L I K E  THE WORK?

A BEG YOUR PARDON?

Q UNDER THE PRESENT CONTRACT I F  A MAN TRANSFERS

AND JUST DEC IDES HE DOESN’ T L I K E  THE WORK IN HIS  

NEW DEPARTMENT THE CONTRACT DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR

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A YOU SAY THE CONTRACT DOESN’ T PROVIDE - -

Q NO, S I R .  '

A I DON'T KNOW.

Q YOU JUST DON’ T KNOW, IS THAT YOUR TESTIMONY?

A MAYBE I 'M NOT UNDERSTANDING YOU. I DON'T KNOW.

Q DON'T YOU KNOW THAT I F  A MAN TRANSFERS UNDER THE 

PRESENT CONTRACT AND DECIDES THAT HE JUST DOESN'T  

L I K E  THE NEW JOB,  HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY RIGHT JUST  

TO GO BACK TO HIS OLD DEPARTMENT, DOES HE?

A NO, S I R .  I GUESS NOT.

Q ALL  RIGHT .  AND THAT HAS CEEN THE RULE,  AT LEAST  

S INCE THE CONTRACT WAS NEGOTIATED IN 1970 ,  HASN’ T 

I T ?

A I WOULD SAY SO,  Y E S .

Q ALL RIGHT.  AND THAT WAS THE RULE IN THE CONTRACT

IN 1971 WHEN YOU WERE OFFERED TO TRANSFER TO THE 

PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT, WASN'T I T ?

A BEG PARDON, S I R ?

Q AND THAT WAS THE CONTRACTUAL RULE THAT WAS IN E F ­

FECT IN 1971 WHEN YOU WERE OFFERED A TRANSFER TO
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PRODUCTION, WASN'T I T ?
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OF THIS YEAR WHEN YOU WERE OFFERED A TRANSFER,  

WASN'T I T ?  '

A NO. I THINK THIS LETTER  STATES SOMETHING D I F F E R ­

ENT,  S I R .

Q ALL RIGHT ,  S I R .  YOU WERE ASKED ABOUT SEVERAL

BLACK EMPLOYEES WHO SERVE AS STEWARDS NOW, CHARLES 

BEAN, ROBERT WILL IAMS,  BETHEL PARKER,  A MAN NAMED 

GRANT AND DARDEN. IS IT  CORRECT THAT ALL OF 

THOSE MEN NOW WORK FOR THE COMPANY IN DEPARTMENTS 

OTHER THAN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A I BEG YOUR PARDON, S I R ?

Q YOU WERE ASKED ABOUT SOME MEN WHO MR. WHEAT SUG­

GESTED WERE STEWARDS, AND I UNDERSTOOD THEY ARE 

BLACK EMPLOYEES - -  CHARLES BEAN, ROBERT WILL IAMS,  

BETHEL PARKER,  MR. GRANT AND MR. DARDEN. I S N ' T  

I T  TRUE THAT ALL THOSE MEN WORK IN DEPARTMENTS 

OTHER THAN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  S I R .  THAT MIGHT BE A D IST INCTION BETWEEN

THE DARDENS. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE REFERRED TO 

- -  THE RE ' S  ANOTHER DARDEN IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT.

Q WELL,  IS THERE ONE DARDEN WHO IS OUTSIDE THE 

LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  S I R .  THERE ARE.

Q ALL R IGHT ,  S I R .

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THE COURT: ANYTHING FURTHER,

MRS. MC DONALD?

MRS. MC DONALD: NO.

THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.  YOU

MAY STEP DOWN.

JOHN H. CHAPMAN,

WITNESS CALLED BY AND IN BEHALF OF P L A I N T I F F ,  HAVING 

BEEN F I R S T  DULY SWORN, WAS EXAMINED AND T E S T I F I E D  AS 

FOLLOWS:

DIRECT EXAMINATION 

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q MR. CHAPMAN, WILL  YOU STATE YOUR NAME.

A JOHN H. CHAPMAN.

Q MR. CHAPMAN, WHAT IS YOUR RACE?

A NEGRO.

Q ARE YOU EMPLOYED BY GOODYEAR HERE IN HOUSTON?

A Y E S ,  I AM.

Q WHEN WERE YOU F I R S T  EMPLOYED?

A MAY 6 TH, 19^4.

Q AND IN WHAT DEPARTMENT WERE YOU EMPLOYED?

A IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT.

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A LABOR DEPARTMENT.

Q WHAT JOB DO YOU HOLD IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT NOW?

A LABOR LEADMAN.

Q HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A LABOR LEADMAN?

A APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS.

Q WHAT GENERALLY ARE THE FUNCTIONS,  THE R E S P O N S I B I L I

T I E S ,  OF A LABOR LEADMAN?

A LABOR LEADMAN IS SUPPOSED TO A S S I S T  THE SUPER­

VISOR AND CHECK DIFFERE NT  TYPES OF WORK I F  THE 

SUPERVISOR IS NOT THERE TO CHECK.

Q IS  THERE A FOREMAN IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM, IT I S .

Q IS  THAT MR. COLEMAN?

A NO, MA’ AM; MR. JACK UNCLE.

Q MR. COLEMAN IS THE SUPERVISOR?

A I AM IN THE WAREHOUSE AND SH IPP ING .  MR. JACK 

UNCLE IS  THE FOREMAN OVER LABOR DEPARTMENT AND 

SH IPP ING .

Q I S E E .  NOW, YOU HAVE BEEN A LABORER THEN WORKING 

IN THE AREA OF THE SHIPPING DEPARTMENT; IS THIS  

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM, THAT IS TRUE.

Q NOW, WHEN YOUVERE F I R S T  EMPLOYED IN ’ 4'+ WHAT TYPE 

OF JOB WERE YOU DOING?

A WELL,  WE WAS OPERATING FORK TRUCKS,  UNLOADING.

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Q IN THE AREA OF THE SHIPPING DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  MA * AM.

Q HOW LONG DID YOU PERFORM THOSE JOB D UT IE S?

A SOME TEN YEARS.

Q SO THEN IN ABOUT 19^4 YOU STOPPED PERFORMING THOSE

JOB DUTI ES?

A I T  WAS ABOUT 1951 OR ' 5 2 .

Q WHY DID YOU STOP PERFORMING THOSE JOB DUTI ES?

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ACT,  ABOUT TWENTY YEARS AGO.

THE COURT: I WILL PERMIT HER

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Q SO THEN YOU STOPPED PERFORMING FORK L I F T  JOBS IN 

’ 52,  IS THAT RIGHT?

A AROUND *52 .

Q WHAT WERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT E X I S T E D  WHEN YOU 

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FOR TEN CENTS AN HOUR WAGE INCREASE ,  AND DURING 

THAT TIME IT WAS TAKEN FROM THE LABORERS WHICH 

WERE BLACK AND GIVEN TO SHIPPING AND T R AF F IC  

WITH THE TEN CENTS AN HOUR WAGE INCREASE .

Q HOW WERE THE EMPLOYEES WHO TOOK OVER YOUR JOB

D U T I E S ,  HOW WERE THESE EMPLOYEES C L A S S I F I E D ?  WHAT 

WAS THEIR JOB CALLED?

A SHIPPING AND T R A F F I C .

Q THEY HAD D I V IS IO N  S EN IO RI T Y  IN THE SHIPPING AND 

T R A F F I C  THEN?

A THAT’ S RIGHT .

Q ALL YOUR D I V IS IO N  SEN IO RI T Y  WAS THEN IN LABOR,

IS THAT RIGHT?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q NOW, DID YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT FACT?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q YOUR JOB DUTIES WERE GIVEN TO OTHER EMPLOYEES?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q WHO DID YOU COMPLAIN TO?

A THE UNION AND MR. VAN OSDALL .

Q WHEN DID YOU F I R S T  START COMPLAINING TO THE UNION?

A WELL,  I COMPLAINED TO MR. TEAGUE IN 1965.

NOW, AT THE TIME THAT THE JOB DUTIES THAT YOU WERE 

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SHIPPING DEPARTMENT, THAT IS THE WAREHOUSE AND 

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A WAREHOUSE AND SH IP P I NG .

Q WAREHOUSE AND SH IP P I NG.  WHAT WAS THE RACE OF 

THOSE EMPLOYEES?

A RATE?

Q RACE,  COLOR, WERE THEY WHITE OR BLACK?

A YOU MEAN IN THE WAREHOUSE AND S H IP P I N G ,  UNLOADING? 

Q Y E S .

A ALL BLACK,  UNLOADING.

Q NOW, THE EMPLOYEES WHO WERE ACTUALLY C L A S S I F I E D

WITH D I V I S I O N  SEN IORITY  IN SHIPPING AND RECE IV ING  

WHO TOOK OVER THE FORK L I F T  JOB D U T I E S ,  WHAT WAS 

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A WHITE.

Q NOW THEN, WHEN YOU COMPLAINED TO MR. TEAGUE - -

WELL,  LET ME ASK YOU T H I S :  WHO IS MR. TEAGUE?

A HE IS THE BUSINESS RE PRE SENTATIVE .

Q OF THE DEFENDANT UNION?

A (NODDED.)

Q WHEN YOU COMPLAINED TO MR. TEAGUE WHAT WAS MR. 

TEAGUE’ S RESPONSE?

A WELL,  I ASKED HIM TO HELP ME TO GAIN MY S E N I O R I T Y ,  

AND THESE ARE THE WORDS HE SAID TO ME, THAT HE

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GOODYEAR IS FULLY INTEGRATED.  HE SAID GOODYEAR 

WAS INTEGRATED L I K E  THIS CAFE TE RI A  WAS. HE SAID  

HE DIDN’ T WANT THE COLORED TO KNOW THAT THE 

CA FETERIA  WERE INTEGRATED BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID  

THEY WOULD WANT A CUP OF CO FF EE .  THAT IS THE 

WORDS HE TOLD ME.

Q NOW, WHEN YOU WERE COMPLAINING TO MR. TEAGUE IN 

YOUR WORDS TO GET YOUR S E N I O R I T Y ,  WHAT WERE YOU 

TRYING TO DO?

A THE CONTRACT READS YOU DIDN’ T LOSE THE SENIORITY  

UNLESS YOU QU IT ,  BE LAID OFF OR GET F I R E D .  I 

NEVER DID GET ANY ONE OF THE SE ,  IT  NEVER HAPPENED 

TO ME. I OPERATED A FORK TRUCK FOR SOME TEN 

YEARS AND THAT IS WHAT I WANTED HIM TO FIND OUT,  

WHAT HAPPENED TO MY S E N I O R I T Y .

Q WERE YOU ASKING HIM TO ATTEMPT TO GET YOU SENIORIT '  

IN THE SHIPPING AND RECE I V ING  DEPARTMENT?

A NOT REC E IV ING - -  SHIPPING AND WAREHOUSE AND

SHIPPING DEPARTMENT.

Q WERE YOU ASKING HIM SINCE YOU HAD WORKED THE JOBS 

THAT WERE THEN BEING PERFORMED BY THE EMPLOYEES 

IN SHIPPING AND T R AF F IC  THAT YOU BE GIVEN D IV IS IO N  

SE NI ORI TY  IN SHIPPING AND T R A F F I C ?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q NOW, AT THE PRESENT TIME ALL OF YOUR D I V IS IO N

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SENIO RITY  IS IN THE LABOR, IS  THAT RIGHT?

A LABOR, THAT’ S RIGHT.

Q NOW, WAS THE WAREHOUSEMAN AND SHIPPER  WHO TOOK 

OVER THE JOB DUTIES THAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED OF 

THE LABOR, WERE THEY BEING PAID MORE OR LESS THAN 

LABORERS AT THAT TIME?

A THEY WAS PAID MORE.•j

Q APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH MORE WERE THEY BEING PAID 

AT THIS TIME?

A TWENTY-FIVE  OR THIRTY CENTS AN HOUR MORE.

Q NOW, YOU T E S T I F I E D  THAT YOU WERE WORKING LABOR

BUT IN THE AREA OF SHIPPING AND TR AFF IC  DEPARTMENT,  

IS  THAT RIGHT?

A THAT'S RIGHT.

Q NOW, DO YOU OR HAVE YOU HELD A STEWARD'S POSITION  

WITH THE UNION?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q WHEN DID YOU F I R S T  BECOME A STEWARD?

A OH, THE CHIEF  STEWARD, JACK E .  VAUGHAN - -  JACK E .  

VAUGHAN WAS CH IE F  STEWARD THEN.

Q HOW LONG DID YOU REMAIN A STEWARD?

A I REMAINED A STEWARD UP UNTIL  SOME F I V E  MONTHS

AGO.

Q WERE YOU A STEWARD IN 1968?

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Q DO YOU KNOW MR. C.  LYONS AND MR. L .  BROWN?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM, I DO.

Q ARE THEY WHITE OR BLACK EMPLOYEES?

A BLACK.

Q AND IN 1968 TO YOUR BEST KNOWLEDGE WERE THEY 

C L A S S I F I E D  IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A C L A S S I F I E D ?

Q YEAH.

A AS A LABORER?

Q YEAH.

A Y E S ,  MA'AM, THEY WERE C L A S S I F I E D  AS A LABORER.

Q HAVE E ITHER MR. LYONS OR MR. BROWN EVER BEEN

TRANSFERRED TO THE SHIPPING AND TR AFF IC  DEPARTMENT*

A Y E S ,  MA'AM, THEY HAVE.

Q WHEN WERE THEY TRANSFERRED?

A THE F I R S T  ATTEMPT,  THE YEAR I CAN'T RECALL WHEN

HE F I R S T  OFFERED TO MOVE IN A TIME WHEN TWO 

Y E A R S ’ SEN IO RIT Y  - -  THAT IS WHEN THEY F I R S T  AT­

TEMPTED TO MOVE THE SHIPPING AND T R A F F I C .

Q I DON'T KNOW I F  I UNDERSTAND.

A THE F I R S T  OFFER MR. VAN MADE US,  OFFERED US TO

MOVE, WHEN THEY DROPPED THE TEST AND DURING THE

T IME ,  AFTER BEING IN THE DEPARTMENT FOR TWO 

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Q THAT HAD TO BE PRIOR TO THE PRESENT CONTRACT

E F F E C T I V E  JULY 24 ,  1970.

A YES .

Q MR. VAN , THAT IS MR. VAN OSDALL,  IS THAT CORRECT?

A RIGHT, MR. VAN OSDALL .

Q HE HAS T E S T I F I E D  HE MADE THAT OFFER IN 1969.  DOES

THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT?

A IT  SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.

Q NOW, WERE YOU PRESENT WHEN MR. LYONS AND MR.

BROWN WERE TRANSFERRED TO THE SHIPPING AND T R A F F I C  

DEPARTMENT?

A Y ES ,  MA'AM, I WERE.

Q DID THEY REMAIN ON THAT JOB IN THE SHIPPING AND 

TR AF F I C  DEPARTMENT?

A NO, MA'AM, THEY D ID N 'T .

Q HOW LONG DID THEY REMAIN ON THE JOB?

A TWO WEEKS OR TWO WEEKS AND A HALF.

Q WHY DID THEY LEAVE THAT JOB?

A I WAS STEWARD IN THAT T IME ,  AND THE WAREHOUSE 

FOREMAN, WHICH IS JACK UNCLE,  SAID THAT THEY 

WOULD STAY ON THE FORK TRUCK TWO OR THREE WEEKS 

THE LONGEST,  AND THEY WOULD BE BACK TO ME.

Q WAS THIS PRIOR TO THE TIME MR. LYONS AND MR.

BROWN ACTUALLY WORKED THOSE TRUCKS,  WAS THIS BE­

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A THAT IS BEFORE THEY CAME INTO THE DEPARTMENT,  

SHIPPING AND T R A F F I C .

Q IS MR. ARNOLD WHITE OR BLACK?

A ARNOLD?

Q IS HE WHITE OR BLACK?

A YOU MEAN UNCLE? HE 'S  WHITE.

Q YOU REFER TO HIM AS UNCLE?

A MR. JACK UNCLE.

Q JACK UNCLE?

A HE IS  WAREHOUSE FOREMAN.

Q OKAY. NOW, DID THAT TURN OUT AS HE HAD TOLD YOU? 

A Y E S ,  MA'AM, IT  DID.

Q WERE MR. LYONS AND MR. BROWN D I S Q U A L I F I E D  AFTER

TWO WEEKS?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM, THEY WERE.

Q DID THEY GO BACK TO THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A I DON'T RECALL WHETHER THEY WENT BACK TO THE

LABOR DEPARTMENT. I WAS OFF S I CK  WHENEVER THEY 

WERE BACK.

Q HAD MR. LYONS EVER WORKED THAT FORK L I F T  JOB 

BEFORE?

A NO, MA'AM, HE HADN'T.

Q NOW, MR. CHAPMAN, HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN THE TESTS

THAT THE COMPANY HAS BEEN G IV ING?

A NO, MA'AM, I HAVEN'T.

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A WELL,  THEY SAID MY GRADE LE VE L  WAS TOO LOW, NO. 2.

ONE, AND NO. 2,  I FE L T  L I K E  I WAS ASKING FOR A 

FORK L I F T .  I DIDN'T THINK I HAD TO TAKE A TEST  

FOR A JOB I HAD DONE TEN YEARS.

Q THIS WAS A JOB THAT WENT TO SHIPPING AND T R A F F I C ,  

YOU T E S T I F I E D ?

A Y ES ,  S I R .

Q WHO TOLD YOU THAT YOUR GRADE LEVEL  WAS NOT HIGH 

ENOUGH TO TAKE THE TE ST?

A MR. VAN OSDALL.  I WROTE HIM A LETTER IN 1968.

Q WHAT WAS YOUR GRADE LE VE L  AT THAT TIME?

A EIGHTH GRADE.

Q WERE YOU OFFERED AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFER OUT 

OF THE LABOR DEPARTMENT IN 1969?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q WHAT JOBS WERE YOU OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO 

TRANSFER?

A WELL,  BALER HELPER ,  FORK L I F T  OPERATOR, AND STONE.

Q THIS FORK L I F T  JOB,  IS THE FORK L I F T  JOB IN

SHIPPING?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q IS THAT THE JOB YOU T E S T I F I E D  ABOUT BEFORE YOUWERE

PERFORMING THESE JOB DUTIES ON?

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T I E S ,  ASSUMING YOU HAD ACCEPTED THE FORK L I F T  JOB 

IN SHIPPING AND TR AFF IC  WHEN WOULD YOU BEGIN TO 

ACCRUE D I V I S I O N  SEN IORITY  IN SHIPPING AND T R A F F I C ?  

A WELL,  IT  WOULD HAVE BEEN AFTER NINETY DAYS.

Q AFTER THE TIME YOU HAD TRANSFERRED?

A FROM THE TIME I WAS TRANSFERRED,  NINETY DAYS AFTER

Q IS  IT  TRUE THAT AT THAT TIME THE CONTRACT PROVIDED

YOU WOULD LOSE YOUR SEN IO RI T Y  IN THE LABOR DEPART­

MENT AFTER TWO YEARS,  IS THAT RIGHT?

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Q NOW, DID YOU WANT TO TRANSFER TO ANY OTHER DEPART­

MENTS AT THAT T IME ,  IN 1969?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM. I APPLIED TO TRANSFER TO U T I L I T I E S  

OPERATOR AND FIREMAN.

Q WHO DID YDU SPEAK WITH IN AN EFFORT TO TRANSFER 

TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS?

A MR. VAN OSDALL .

q WHAT WAS MR. VAN OSDALL'S  RESPONSE?

A HE NEVER DID T E L L  ME.

Q DID HE OFFER YOU A CHANCE TO TRANSFER TO THOSE TWO 

DEPARTMENTS?

A NO, MA'AM. HE D I DN 'T .

Q DURING THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE BEEN LABOR LEADMAN

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Q DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY WHEN MR. MC ELROY WAS 

EMPLOYED?

A HE WAS EMPLOYED, I B E L I E V E ,  IN SEPTEMBER.  I B E ­

L I E V E  IT  WAS THE 5TH, 1965.

Q IS HE WHITE OR BLACK?

A WHITE.

Q DO YOU KNOV/ WHAT JOB MR. C.  LYONS WAS PERFORMING

AT ABOUT THAT TIME IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A HE WAS DRIVING A TRUCK IN THE STOREROOM, I GUESS 

YOU WOULD CALL I T .  I T  WAS IN THE LABOR D I V I S I O N ,  

BUT HE WAS DRIVING A TRUCK AND P ICK ING UP PARTS 

AND DI FF ERE NT  THINGS.

Q AND DID MR. LYONS REMAIN ON THAT JOB AFTER MR.

MC ELROY WAS EMPLOYED IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A SOME SHORT TIME AFTER MR. MC ELROY WAS EMPLOYED 

MR. LYONS WAS PUT OFF THE JOB.

Q IS  MR. MC ELROY WHITE OR BLACK?

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Q D I D  Y O U  W I T H D R A W  F R O M  T H E  M E M B E R S H I P  O F  T H E  L O C A L ?  

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A  P U L L  F R O M  T H E  L I N E ,  F R O M  P R O D U C T I O N  T H A T  S A T  I N  

T H E  W A R E H O U S E .

Q I S  I T  C O R R E C T  T H E N  - -  W H A T  W A S  T H E  C L A S S I F I C A T I O N

O F  T H O S E  W H I T E  E M P L O Y E E S  A T  T H A T  T I M E ?

A  S H I P P I N G  A N D  T R A F F I C .

Q T H E  S A M E  A S  T H E I R  C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  I S  T O D A Y ?

A  U M - H U M .

Q A T  T H A T  T I M E  A S  W E L L  A S  Y O U  R E M E M B E R  W A S  S H I P P I N G  

A N D  T R A F F I C  A  H I G H E R - P A Y I N G  J O B  T H A N  T H E  W A R E H O U S E  

L A B O R ?

A  T H A T ’ S  R I G H T .

Q O R  I S  I T  C O R R E C T  T H E N  T H A T  A T  T H E  T I M E  Y O U  A R E

T A L K I N G  A B O U T  A L L  O F  T H E  F O R K  T R U C K  O P E R A T I O N  WA S  

G I V E N  T O  T H E  C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  W A R E H O U S E M A N  A N D  

S H I P P I N G ?

A  W A R E H O U S E  A N D  S H I P P I N G  O R  F O R K  L I F T I N G ,  R I G H T .

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A R I G H T .

Q H E  W E I G H S  I T .

A  W E I G H S  I T ,  R I G H T .

Q H E  I S  R E S P O N S I B L E  T O  K E E P  T H E  R U B B E R  S E P A R A T E D

C O M I N G  F R O M  O N E  P R O D U C T I O N  L I N E  T O  A N O T H E R ,  I S N ' T  

T H A T  C O R R E C T ?

A  R I G H T .

Q Y O U  H A V E  D I F F E R E N T  B A T C H E S ,  S O M E T I M E S  R U N  D I F F E R ­

E N T  T Y P E  R U B B E R ,  I S  T H A T  C O R R E C T ?

A R I G H T .

Q A N D  H E  M A I N T A I N S  C E R T A I N  P A P E R S  - -  I ' M  N O T  S U R E

W H A T  T H E Y  A R E ,  B U T  T H E Y  H A V E  T O  DO W I T H  T H E  

W E I G H T  O F  T H E  R U B B E R  A N D  W H E R E  I T  I S  S T O R E D ,  I S  

T H A T  C O R R E C T ?

A  T H A T ' S  C O R R E C T .

Q A L L  R I G H T .  L E T  ME  S E E  I F  I  U N D E R S T A N D  Y O U R  T E S T I ­

M O N Y  A B O U T  M R .  MC E L R O Y .  A S  I U N D E R S T A N D  I T  H E  

I S  A  W H I T E  P E R S O N  H I R E D  I N  T H E  L A B O R  D E P A R T M E N T  

A R O U N D  S E P T E M B E R  7,  1965.

A  A R O U N D  T H E R E .

Q A N D  A T  T H A T  T I M E  H E  W A S  T H E  F I R S T  A N D  O N L Y  W H I T E

MA N I N  T H E  L A B O R  D E P A R T M E N T ,  I S  T H A T  C O R R E C T ,  OR

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A I  D O N ' T  K N O W A B O U T  T H E  L A B O R  D E P A R T M E N T .  I D O N ' T

K N O W W H E T H E R  H E  W A S  T H E  O N L Y  O N E .

Q W H A T  W A S  H E  D O I N G  A T  T H A T  T I M E ,  DO Y O U  K N O W ?

A W H E N ?

Q W H E N  H E  W A S  H I R E D  W H A T  W A S  H I S  F I R S T  J O B  A S S I G N ­

M E N T ?

A  T H A T  I  D O N ' T  K N O W .

Q I S  I T  Y O U R  T E S T I M O N Y  T H A T  H E  W E N T  ON T H E  F O R K

T R U C K  W H E N  M R .  L Y O N S  S T O P P E D  D O I N G  T H A T  W O R K ?

A  F O R K  T R U C K ?  MC E L R O Y ?

Q Y E A H .

A  H E  N E V E R  D R O V E  A  F O R K  T R U C K  T O  MY K N O W L E D G E .

Q M A Y B E  I  M I S U N D E R S T O O D .  I W A N T E D  T O  F I N D  O U T

W H A T  Y O U R  T E S T I M O N Y  W A S .  Y O U  M E N T I O N E D  M R .  L Y O N S  

A S  I R E C A L L  I N  C O N N E C T I O N  W I T H  M R .  MC E L R O Y .  W A S  

T H E R E  S O M E  C O N N E C T I O N  B E T W E E N  T H E  T W O ?

A  T H A T  I S  W H E N  M R .  MC E L R O Y  T A K E N  O V E R  T H E  J O B

F R O M  M R .  L Y O N S ,  W H I C H  W A S  A  T R U C K .  H E  W A S  D R I V ­

I N G  A  P I C K U P  T R U C K ,  D E L I V E R Y  T R U C K  O R  P I C K  U P  

P A R T S .  T H A T  I S  W H E N  T H A T  H A P P E N E D ,  M R .  MC E L R O Y  

A N D  M R .  L Y O N S .

Q A L L  R I G H T .  I S  O P E R A T I O N  O F  T H E  P I C K U P  T R U C K  A

J O B  T H A T  L A B O R E R S  H A V E  P E R F O R M E D  F O R  M A N Y  Y E A R S ?

A  T H A T ' S  R I G H T .

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A M E M B E R  O F  T H E  L A B O R  D E P A R T M E N T ?

A T H A T ' S  R I G H T .

Q D R A W I N G  T H E  S A M E  R A T E S  A S  T H E  O T H E R  M E N  I N  T H E  D E ­

P A R T M E N T ?

A  T H A T ’ S R I G H T .

Q I T  I S  Y O U R  T E S T I M O N Y  T H A T  M R .  L Y O N S  H A D  B E E N  D R I V ­

I N G  T H E  T R U C K  A N D  M R .  MC E L R O Y  W A S  P U T  ON T H E  J O B  ,

I S  T H A T  T H E  S U B S T A N C E  O F  I T ?

A  T H A T  I S  R I G H T .

Q D O  Y O U  K NO W HOW L O N G  M R .  MC  E L R O Y  R E M A I N E D  I N  T H E  

L A B O R  D E P A R T M E N T ?

A  I  R E A L L Y  D O N ' T  K N O W .  I  T H I N K  H E  M A D E  T H R E E  A T T E M P T ^  

T O  M O V E  A T  O N C E  T O  T H E  H O U S E .  T H E Y  M O V E D  H I M  

A G A I N  T O  F I R E M A N .  I ’ M N O T  U P  ON A L L  T H I S ,  B U T  NOW 

H E  I S  A  M E C H A N I C .

Q H E  B E C A M E  A  M E C H A N I C  T H I S  Y E A R  A F T E R  T H E  C O M P A N Y

S T O P P E D  U S I N G  T H E  H I G H  S C H O O L  A N D  T E S T I N G  R E Q U I R E ­

M E N T S ,  D I D N ' T  H E ?

A  T H A T ' S  R I G H T .

Q P R I O R  T O  T H A T  T I M E  H E  W A S  N O T  A B L E  T O  T R A N S F E R  O U T

O F  T H E  L A B O R  D E P A R T M E N T  B E C A U S E  H E  D I D N ' T  H A V E  

H I G H  S C H O O L ,  I S  T H A T  C O R R E C T ?

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THE WITNESS.

CROSS EXAMINATION

B Y  M R .  W H E A T :

Q M R .  C H A P M A N ,  Y O U  S A I D  Y O U  B E C A M E  A S T E W A R D  D U R I N G  

T H E  C H I E F  S T E W A R D S H I P  O F  M R .  J A C K  E .  V A U G H A N .

A THAT'S RIGHT.

Q M A Y  WE  P R E S U M E  H E  A P P O I N T E D  Y O U ?

A HE D ID.

Q H E  A P P O I N T E D  Y O U  T O  Y O U R  O F F I C E  A S  S T E W A R D ?

A HE D ID .

Q S I N C E  1 9 6 5  T H E R E  H A V E  B E E N  W H I T E  L A B O R E R S  I N  T H E  

L A B O R  D E P A R T M E N T ,  H A V E  T H E R E  N O T ?

A I DIDN'T  UNDERSTAND YOU.

Q S I N C E  1 9 6 5  A T  L E A S T  T H E R E  H A V E  B E E N  W H I T E  E M P L O Y E E S  

W O R K I N G  I N  T H E  L A B O R  D E P A R T M E N T ?

A THERE HAVE.

Q Y O U  W E R E  A P P O . N T E D  I N  1 9 6 8 ,  A P P R O X I M A T E L Y ?

A  W H E N  H E  C O M E  I N T O  S T E W A R D .  I D O N ' T  K N O W E X A C T L Y .

Q W A S  I T  A F T E R  1 9 6 5 ?

A S I N C E  I W A S  A P P O I N T E D ?

Q Y E S , S I R .

A I B E L I E V E  IT  W A S .

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EXACTLY THE DEPARTMENT YOU WERE WORKING IN.

A LABOR DEPARTMENT IS S P L I T  UP IN THREE OR FOUR D I F ­

FERENT GROUPS. I AM IN THE WAREHOUSE AND SHIPPING  

LABOR DEPARTMENT. WE ONLY HAVE ONE WHITE IN THERE,  

AND THAT IS ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

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APPOINTED STEWARD?

A HE WASN'T.

Q HE WASN'T.  WERE THERE ANY WHITE EMPLOYEES IN THERE 

WHEN YOU WERE APPOINTED STEWARD?

A SURE WERE.

Q DID YOU REPRESENT THEM?

A 100 PER CENT.

Q YOU DID?

A I REALLY DID.

Q ALL RIGHT .  COULD MR. VAUGHAN HAVE APPOINTED ONE

OF THEM AS STEWARD?

A I DIDN'T  GET YOU.

Q COULD MR. VAUGHAN HAVE SEL ECTED ONE OF THEM AS

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A ONE OF THE WHITES?

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A WE DIDN’ T HAVE A WHITE IN MY DEPARTMENT AT THAT 

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Q I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU DID.

A NO, WE D I D N ' T .  WE HAD A WHITE IN MY DEPARTMENT

MAYBE A YEAR AGO. THAT'S THE F I R S T  WHITE WE HAD 

IN MY DEPARTMENT AS A LABORER.

Q YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAREHOUSE AND SHIPP ING?

A WAREHOUSE AND SH IPP ING .

Q ALL  RIGHT.  NOW, AS A STEWARD, MR. CHAPMAN, DID YOU

F I L E  GRIEVANCES FROM TIME TO TIME?

A I B E L I E V E  WE F I L E D  ABOUT FOUR.

Q YOU F I L E D  ABOUT FOUR. ON WHOSE BEHALF WERE THEY 

F I  LED?

A ON THE WHOLE ENTIRE  1400 SHIPPING DEPARTMENT.

Q MAY WE PRESUME FROM THAT IT  WAS A GROUP GRIEVANCE

AND NOT ON BEHALF OF SOME PARTICULAR PERSON?

A WE F I L E D  SOME GROUP AND SOME PARTICULAR PERSONS.

Q YOU F I L E D  THOSE YOURSELF?

A I D ID.

Q YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU DIDN'T  KNOW WHEN STEWARDS'

MEETINGS TOOK PLACE.

A I REALLY D I D N 'T .

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A I REALLY DON’ T.  I SURE DON’ T.

Q DID YOU ASK ANYONE WHEN THE STEWARDS’ MEETINGS

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BECAUSE I D IDN'T  KNOW THEY HAD SUCH A THING AS A 

STEWARD MEETING.  THAT'S HOW MUCH IN THE DARK THEY 

KEPT US.

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THE ATTENDED STEWARDS’ MEETINGS? WHEN DID YOU 

F I R S T  LEARN THERE HAD BEEN SOME STEWARDS' MEETINGS?

A WHEN I WERE ASKING MR. JOHNSON.

Q THAT IS THE F I R S T  YOU KNEW ABOUT I T ?

A THAT IS HOW FAR THEY KEPT US BACK.

Q YOU DIDN'T  ASK ANYBODY WHEN THEY WERE?

A I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS SUCH A THING.

Q DID YOU KNOW THE OTHER BLACK STEWARDS?

A WELL,  THE ONE - -  I D IDN’ T COMMUNICATE WITH HIM IN 

THE PRODUCTION.

Q YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THE OTHER BLACK 

STEWARDS IN THEFEST  OF THE PLANT?

A I D IDN’ T HAVE TIME.

Q WERE YOU WORKING TOO HARD?

A THAT IS TRUE.

THE COURT: MR. WHEAT, LET

ME ASK YOU AT THIS POINT TO HELP THE COURT
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A L I T T L E  B I T .  I THOUGHT THAT I HAD 

A GRIP  ON THE FACTS AS TO THE D I V I S I O N S ,  

BUT APPARENTLY WITHIN LABOR THERE ARE 

SUBD IV IS IONS  AND I AM A L I T T L E  CONCERNED 

ABOUT I T .

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NESS AND I AM NOT TOO CLEAR MYSELF ON 

EXACTLY WHAT THE D I V IS IO N S  ARE WITHIN THE 

LABOR D I V I S I O N S .

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MIGHT, I DON'T B E L I E V E  THE CONTRACT IS  

IN EVIDENCE YET BUT IT HAS A L I S T  OF THE 

VARIOUS GROUPS I F  IT  MIGHT BE HELPFUL .  IS  

THAT ONE OF YOUR E X H I B I T S ?

MRS. MC DONALD: Y E S ,  IT  I S ,

BUT THE PROBLEM, THERE IS ONE LABOR DE­

PARTMENT BUT THE LABORERS WITHIN THE 

LABOR DEPARTMENT ARE ASSIGNED WITHIN 

DIF F ER E NT  AREAS.

THE COURT: I AM HAVING A L I T T L

D I F F I C U L T Y  FOLLOWING WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN 

THE LABOR DEPARTMENT. THIS WITNESS MIGHT 

PERHAPS BE ONE WHO COULD CLEAR I T  UP.

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MIGHT SUGGEST,  I F  WE COULD COVER THE 

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I T .

THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.

MR. BURCH: I T  IS IN EVIDENCE

AS P L A I N T I F F ' S  E X H I B I T  9 ,  AND ALL THE 

JOB C L A S S I F I C A T I O N S  ARE L I S T E D  ON PAGE 

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COURT.

THE COURT: WELL,  I T  IS  SOME­

THING L I K E  GOING TO A BASEBALL GAME. I T ' S  

NICE  TO KNOW THE NAMES AND THE NUMBERS OF 

ALL THE PLAYERS ,  AND RIGHT NOW I 'M HAVING 

A L I T T L E  D I F F I C U L T Y  SO THIS WILL  HELP.

MR. BURCH: WE MIGHT MAKE A 

B R I E F  EXPLANATION.  .ON PAGE 59 ,  ALTHOUGH 

THERE IS  NOT A T I T L E  OVER ALL OF THOSE 

JOBS ,  ALL OF THOSE CL A S S I F I C A T I O N S  ARE 

IN THE SO-CALLED PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT.

THE COURT: I S E E .

MR. BURCH: THEN ON PAGE 60,  A L .

OF THE BOLD FACE T I T L E ,  SUCH AS U T I L I T Y  

DEPARTMENT, SHIPPING AND T R A F F I C ,  THOSE 

ARE T I T L E S  OF THE DEPARTMENTAL SENIORITY  

GROUPS. THE SAME IS TRUE OF THE LABOR 

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Q (MR. WHEAT) MR. CHAPMAN, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT HAS

BEEN RE CE IVED IN EVIDENCE AS P L A I N T I F F ' S  E X H I B IT  

NO. 9 ,  PAGE 6 0 ,  WHERE THERE IS  A BOLD TYPE R E F E R ­

ENCE TO LABOR DEPARTMENT. WHICH OF THOSE C L A S S I F I ­

CATIONS WERE YOU IN WHEN YOU WERE A STEWARD?

A WAREHOUSE.

Q WAREHOUSE LABOR? ALL R IGHT .  IS THE LABOR DEPART­

MENT IN FACT,  MR. CHAPMAN, BROKEN UP INTO THESE  

SEVERAL CATEGORIES L I S T E D  ON PAGE 60?

A IS IT  BROKEN UP?

Q IS IT  D IV IDED INTO THESE SEVERAL CATEGORIES?

A Y E S ,  S I R .  IT  I S .

Q ALL R IGHT .  DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU WORK IN D I F ­

FERENT AREAS?

A RIGHT.

Q BUT NONETHELESS YOU WERE IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT,

EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE C L A S S I F I E D  IN WAREHOUSE LABOR?

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Q ALL RIGHT.  WHEN YOU SAY THAT THERE WERE AT THE

TIME YOU WERE A STEWARD NO WHITE EMPLOYEES IN THAT 

DEPARTMENT OR D I V I S I O N ,  YOU MEAN THAT THERE WERE 

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WHEN I WAS APPOINTED STEWARD THERE WASN’ T.

SOME OF THEM CAME IN AFTER YOU WERE STEWARD?

THAT’ S RIGHT.  DALE SMITH.

WAS I T  YOUR R E S P O N S I B I L I T Y  TO REPRESENT THEM AS 

STEWARD?

THAT'S RIGHT.

WERE YOU APPOINTED STEWARD ONCE OR MORE THAN ONCE? 

ONCE, JUST ONE TIME.

THEN YOU RES IGNED,  YOU WITHDREW FROM THE UNION? 

THAT’ S RIGHT.

NOW, YOU T E S T I F I E D  THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED 

THE UNION TO DO, THE UNION TURNED YOU DOWN ON?

THAT IS TRUE.

CAN YOU GIVE  US SOME S P E C I F I C  EXAMPLES OF THAT,

MR. CHAPMAN? WHAT DID THE UNION DENY YOU THAT 

YOU SOUGHT?

WELL,  NO. 1,  THEY DENIED C L A S S I F I C A T I O N ,  NO. 1.

NOW, EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.

WELL,  MY LAST PROPOSAL I PROPOSED WAS A C L A S S I F I C A ­

TION IN THE 1400 .  WE HAD 1400 AND I ASKED FOR 

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DOWN. HE MADE A SPEECH TO PRODUCTION TO VOTE 

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Q WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SAY VOTED?

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CH IE FS  DO I T .  HE ASKED THEM WOULD THEY DO THAT.

Q I 'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT IT  WAS PUT TO A

VOTE BEFORE THE EMPLOYEES WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED AND 

AFFECTED BY I T ,  IS THAT CORRECT?

A ALL  PROPOSED THEY HAVE THE MEETING ON I T ,  AND THEN 

THE WHOLE ENTIRE  COMPANY VOTED ON I T .  WHEN MY 

PROPOSAL COME UP C H IE F  STEWARD GOT UP AND MADE A 

SPEECH THAT I T  WERE WRONG, AND I LOST THE VOTE.

Q THEY VOTED AND THE MAJORITY OF THE EMPLOYEES VOTED 

AGAINST I T ,  I GATHER?

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Q WHEN THE C H I E F  STEWARD MADE THE SPEECH THAT YOU RE­

FER TO WHAT REASONS DID HE G I VE  FOR OPPOSING YOUR 

PROPOSAL?

A THAT WE WOULD GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF PAY THAT THE 

FORK TRUCK DRIVERS DRAW. 95 PER CENT OF THE FORK 

TRUCK DRIVERS ARE WHITE.

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Q YOU ARE SAYING IT WAS HIS POSITION I F  YOUR PRO­

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A NOT LOSE MONEY.

Q WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

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FORK TRUCK OPERATOR, WHICH HE DIDN'T  THINK WERE 

RIGHT .

Q HE WAS OPPOSED TO YOU MAKING AS MUCH MONEY AS A 

FORK TRUCK DRIVER?

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Q WHO WAS THE CH IE F  STEWARD?

A BEN HARRISON.

Q AND WHEN WAS T H I S?

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Q Y E S ,  S I R ;  IT  WAS. IS THAT WHEN IT  TOOK PLACE?

A THAT IS WHEN IT  WAS.

Q AND IT  WAS DURING MEETINGS PRIOR TO CONTRACT NEGO­

T I AT IO N S?

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TO ACCEPT PROPOSALS OR R EJ EC T  I T .

Q WHAT WAS YOUR JOB C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  THEN?

A I WAS A LABORER LEADMAN.

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A I B E L I E V E  IT  WAS 32 CENTS AN HOUR.

Q MORE OR L E S S ?

A MY PAY WAS 32 CENTS AN HOUR LESS THAN THE FORK 

TRUCK OPERATOR - -  CORRECTION,  22 CENTS AN HOUR.

I MEAN, 42 CENTS AN HOUR L E S S .

Q WAS THE WAGE INCREASE SOUGHT AND OBTAINED FOR THE 

C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  THAT YOU WERE IN?

A I T  WAS INCREASED 10 CENTS.

Q INCREASED 10 CENTS?

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Q ALL R IGHT .  YOU MENTIONED THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF 

SOMETHING THE UNION WOULD NOT DO THAT YOU WANTED 

THEM TO DO. CAN YOU GIVE  US ANY OTHER EXAMPLES?

A R IGHT.  I F I L E D  A GRIEVANCE - -  MR. VAUGHAN WAS THE 

CH IE F  STEWARD - -  ON THE SAME THING THAT PRODUCTION 

WAS, THE SAME PERFORMING OF THE SAME DUTIES THEY 

WERE DOING. THE COMPANY ANSWERED THAT PRODUCTION 

WAS TRAINED FOR BEING OPERATORS,  THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE 

THE R E S P O N S I B I L I T Y  AND THEY DID.

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ABOUT I T .  HE SAID THEY THOUGHT THE SAME THING,  AND 

ALSO MR. TEAGUE SAID MR. VAUGHAN SHOULDN'T HAVE 

SIGNED THE GRIEVANCE.

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Q DID HE GIVE A REASON?

A NO.

Q WHEN WAS THI S?

A THAT WAS ' 6 0 .

Q ’ 60?

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Q * 68?

A RI GHT.

Q WHAT MONTH?

A THE MONTH I DON' T  KNOW. I HAVE THE AGREEMENT AT

HOME .

Q CAN YOU GIVE US ANY OTHER OCCASIONS OR EXAMPLES

WHEN THE UNION D i D N ' T  DO SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED 

THEM TO DO?

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Q ALL  RI GHT.

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DI SCRI MI NATI NG AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SUPERVISOR IN 

THE BLACKS AND THE WHITES.  I WANTED TWO MONTHS.  

AFTER I F I L E D THE AGREEMENT CHI EF  STEWARD SAID I 

WAS WRONG TO F I L E  THE AGREEMENT,  THAT I WAS S T I L L  

TRYING TO HURT THE WHITE PEOPLE .

Q WHO WAS THAT?

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A YES .

Q WHICH ONES?

A THE FORK TRUCK OPERATORS AND THE LABORERS AND

SHIPPING HAVE THE SAME BOSS AND WORKS TOGETHER.

Q ALL RIGHT.  AND MR. HARRISON TOLD YOU YOU WERE 

TRYING TO HURT THE FORK L I F T  DRIVERS?

A YES .

Q DID HE SAY THE WHITES OR THE FORK L I F T  DRIVERS?

A HE SAID THE FORK L I F T  DR IVE RS .  95 PER CENT ARE

WHITE.  HE SAID THEY DESERVE TO QUIT AT 2 :3 0  I F  

THE SUPERVISOR REQUIRED THEM TO.

Q WELL NOW, LET ME MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND. DID HE 

SAY THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO HURT THE WHITE EM­

PLOYEES OR THE WHITE FORK L I F T  DRIVERS OR THE FORK 

L I F T  DRIVERS?

A HE SAID FORK L I F T  DRIVER S .

Q HE DIDN'T  USE THE WORD "WHITE"?

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95 PER CENT OF FORK L I F T  DRIVERS WERE WHITE.

Q THAT IS WHAT YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAID HE ACCUSED YOU

THEN OF TRYING TO HURT THE WHITES?

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Q IS I T  TRUE THAT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 500 MEMBERS

IN THE UNION THAT ARE BLACK?

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Q 500 MEMBERS IN THE UNION.

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Q ENGINEERS LOCAL 347 ,  THE UNION THAT IS HERE TODAY,  

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IN THAT UNION?

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Q HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A MEETING?

A COMPANY UNION MEETING.

Q WERE THERE BLACK MEMBERS THERE?

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Q YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE NO BLACK REPRESENTATIVES  

ON THE EXEC UTIVE  BOARD OF THE UNION.

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Q EXECUTIVE  BOARD OF THE UNION HERE,  ENGINEERS 347.

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THAT.

Q IS THAT WHAT YOU THOUGHT MRS. MC DONALD MEANT WHEN 

SHE ASKED YOU?

A THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT SHE MEANT.

Q DO YOU KNOW OR UNDERSTAND, MR. CHAPMAN, THAT THE

UNION HERE HAS MEMBERS THAT ARE IN MANY, MANY 

PLANTS OTHER THAN GOODYEAR?

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THE UNION?

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DID YOU KNOW A MR.BETHEL PARKER,  OR DO YOU KNOW 

HIM?

SURE DO.

HE IS  BLACK,  IS  HE NOT?

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IS  HE NOT ON THE EXECUTIVE  BOARD OR ALTERNATE OF 

THE EXECUTIVE  BOARD TO THE UNION?

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PER CENT OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE UNION IS BLACK?  

THAT I DON’ T KNOW.

ALL RIGHT.

MR. WHEAT: THAT IS  A L L .

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Q MR. CHAPMAN, REFERRING TO THE JOB C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  

WAREHOUSEMAN SH I P P E R ,  PRESENTLY IN THE SHIPPING  

AND T R A F F I C ,  THE LAWYER FOR THE COMPANY ASKED YOU 

QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY DO, IS  THAT CORRECT?  
R I G H T .

SOME DO OTHER DUTIES AND SOME WEIGH.

R IGHT .

ARE THERE SOME WAREHOUSEMEN AND SHIPPERS WHO 

PRESENTLY DO NOTHING BUT WORK THE FORK L I F T  UNLOAD­

ING AS YOU DID FOR TEN YEARS AS A LABORER?

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OKAY .

ONLY LOADS. I BEEN INTENDING TO ASK HIM THAT.

THERE ARE SOME THEN WHO DO NOTHING ALL DAY LONG BUT 

LOAD AND UNLOAD, IS THAT RIGHT?

THAT'S RIGHT.

I GATHER THEN THAT - -  HAVE YOU WORKED ALWAYS IN 

WAREHOUSE LABOR?

SURE HAVE.

so  WHEN WAS THE F I R S T  TIME THAT A WHITE PERSON WAS 

EMPLOYED IN WAREHOUSE LABOR?

WAREHOUSE LABOR, D E F I N I T E L Y  THE CORRECT DATE,  ABOUT 

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Q WAS IT AFTER YOU WERE APPOINTED STEWARD?

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Q WHEN WERE YOU APPOINTED STEWARD?

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Q OKAY. THE JOB THAT MR. LYONS HAD THAT MR. MC ELRO'l 

WAS PLACED ON, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT TO BE ONE 

OF THE MORE DES IRABLE  JOBS WITHIN THE LABOR DE­

PARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q WHY IS THAT SO?

A WELL,  I T ' S  IN S ID E  JOB AND YOU JUST DRIVE A TRUCK 

AND UNLOAD IN THE R ECE IV ING  AND HELP OUT WITH A 

LOT OF D I FF ERE NT  THINGS.

Q YOU T E S T I F I E D  IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION FROM THE 

COMPANY THAT MR. MC ELROY HAD BEEN TRANSFERRED 

OUT OF THE LABOR DEPARTMENT SEVERAL TIMES AND HAD 

RETURNED.

A Y E S ,  MA'AM.

Q MR. MC ELROY YOU SAID YOU B EL IE V ED  WAS EMPLOYED

ABOUT IN 1965,  IS THAT YOUR TESTIMONY?

A YES .

Q WAS MR. MC ELROY TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE LABOR DE­

PARTMENT THEN AHEAD OF OR BEFORE BLACKS WHO HAD 

GREATER D I V I S I O N  AND PLANT SEN IORITY  THAN HIM?

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Q WHAT DOES A WAREHOUSE LABORER DO?

A WAREHOUSE LABORER?

Q WHAT DOES HE DO NOW?

A WELL,  CLEAN CARS,  SEE  THE ROLLS BE READY FOR

SH IP P I NG,  PUT RELEASE  ST I CKE RS  ON. ALSO,  SEE  THAT 

THE CAR IS BEING S E mLED PROPERLY AND SEE  THAT MOST 

OF THE T IC K ET S  HAVE BEEN PULLED AND CHECKED AND 

CARRIED TO THE O F F I C E  TO CHECK THE RUBBER OUT AND 

S T E N C I L  RUBBER AND BOX RUBBER.

Q NOW, DO THEY WORK, DO WAREHOUSE LABORERS WORK

CLOSELY WITH THE WAREHOUSEMEN AND SHIPPER  WHO IS 

IN SHIPPING AND T R A F F I C ?

A Y E S ,  MA’ AM.

Q HAVE YOU EVER KNOWN OF PERSONS C L A S S I F I E D  AS WARE­

HOUSE LABORER TO BE REQUIRED TO DO SOME OF THE 

BATCHING THAT YOU REFERRED TO?

A BATCH UP?

Q WHAT IS  THE JOB FUNCTION YOU SAID ABOUT WRAPPING,  

SOMETHING THAT IS S IMILAR  TO THE BALER HELPER?

A OH, S T E N C I L L I N G .

Q WHAT ARE THEY S T E N C I L L I N G ?

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MAY I SAY T H I S ,  THEY HAVE A MUTUAL 

AGREEMENT MOST ANY DUTIES PERFORMED IN PRODUCTION 

WE MOSTLY PERFORM IT  IN THE WAREHOUSE. THEY CAN'T  

COME TO THE WAREHOUSE AND DO I T ,  WE CAN'T GO IN 

PRODUCTION. THE SAME IDENTICAL  THING.

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TO WHAT A WAREHOUSE LABORER DOES?

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ALL THAT.

Q WHAT DOES A BALER HELPER DO TO THE BEST OF YOUR 

KNOWLEDGE?

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THING,  BUT THE ONLY D IFF ERE NCE  I WOULD SEE  WOULD 

BE SEWEING SACKS.

Q THIS INCREASE OF 10 CENTS THAT YOU T E S T I F I E D  WAS

RECENTLY RECE IVED BEFORE BY THE WAREHOUSE LABORER,  

WAS THAT ACROSS THE BOARD INCREASE ,  DID EVERYONE 

IN THE PLANT GET A 10 CENT INCREASE?

A YOU MEAN THE 10 CENTS INCREASE WAS GIVEN TO ME IN 

1970 ?

Q Y E S ,  I B E L I E V E  - -

A THAT WAS LABOR LEADMAN'S INCREASE.  THAT IS ONLY

ONE MAN OR TWO.

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A NO , MA'AM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

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I S N ’ T THAT SO?

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RECROSS EXAMINATION

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Q MR. CHAPMAN, LET ME ASK YOU F I R S T  ABOUT THE WARE­

HOUSE AND SHIPPER  JOB THAT INVOLVES DRIVING A 

FORK TRUCK.  I B E L I E V E  YOU AGREED E A RL IE R  THAT 

SOME OF THE PARKED TRUCKS ARE OPERATED NEAR THE END 

OF THE PRODUCTION L INE AND OTHERS ARE OPERATED E L S E ­

WHERE IN THE WAREHOUSE, LOADING BOX CARS.

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TWO AREAS NOT ONLY ARE THE SAME JOB C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  

BUT THEY PER IOD ICAL LY  ROTATE FROM ONE OF THOSE 

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WAS ONLY LOADING STRAIGHT DAYS ONLY.

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C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  DO BOTH PARTS OF THE WORK?

AT THE PRESENT TIME?

Y E S ,  S I R .

CERTAINLY .  SURE,  Y E S .

ALL RIGHT.  WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT MR. MC ELROY YOU 

ANSWERED A RATHER GENERAL QUESTION THAT HE WAS 

TRANSFERRED OUT BEFORE BLACKS.  DO YOU KNOW THAT 

HE WAS TRANSFERRED OUT BEFORE BLACKS WHO APPL IED  

FOR A TRANSFER?

I WILL MAKE THIS ABOUT THE TRANSFERRING THE BLACKS:  

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAVE TO MAKE APPLICATION FOR 

TRANSFER UNTIL  THREE WEEKS AGO. THE COMPANY DID NO 

EXPLAIN THAT TO US.

YOU KNEW THAT BLACKS HAD TRANSFERRED OUT AS LONG 

AGO AS 1962,  OUT OF LABOR?

1962 - -  I REALLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT PRIOR TO 

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AT LEAST AS EARLY AS 1962.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

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BY NAME - -  SURE DO.

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DO YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT SOME OF THEM HAVE WORKED 

THERE SINCE  1962?

WORKED IN THE BALING ROOM S INCE 1962 - -  SURE DO, 

SOME OF THEM.

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ERS DOING ST E N C I L L I N G  WORK AND SACKING AND BOXING 

RUBBER.  IS I T  CORRECT THAT THE BALER HE LPER ,  THE 

MAN WHO IS ASSIGNED TO THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT,  

STANDS UP ON KIND OF A PLATFORM AT THE END OF THE 

PRODUCTION L INE AND FOR MOST OF HIS WORK SHIFT  

CATCHES BALES OF RUBBER COMING OFF THE L INE  AND 

PUTS THEM IN A BOX?

A Y E S ,  HE DO.

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SEALS THEM IN E ITHER  A PL A S T IC  SACK OR A PAPER SACK 

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Q WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE,  THE Y 'RE  GOING IN PAPER SACKS HE 

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FOUR SHIFT S  AND WE HAVE SACK RUBBER FOUR S H I F T S .

WE HAVE S T E N C I L  RUBBER MOST ALL DAY.

Q DO WAREHOUSE LABORERS S T E N C I L  RUBBER,  L E T ' S  SAY,  

DURING THE PAST YEAR ALL DAY LONG?

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PRODUCTION CANNOT COME IN THE WAREHOUSE WHEN THEY 

ARE S T EN C I L L I N G  THE RUBBER,  THE WAREHOUSE LABOR.

Q THAT HAS BEEN TRUE FOR A LONG T IME ,  I S N ’ T I T ?

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RUBBER THAT WAREHOUSE LABORERS HAVE DONE FOR A 

SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD OF TIME HAS BEEN WHEN THIS HAS 

BEEN S P I L L E D  AND IT WAS NECESSARY TO PICK IT  UP 

AND SACK IT AND RE-BOX I T ?

A L A T E L Y ,  YOU MEAN?

Q YES .

A L A T E L Y ,  Y ES .

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MAY STEP DOWN.

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YOUR NEXT WITNESS.

LONNIE BROWN,

WITNESS CALLED BY AND IN BEHALF OF P L A I N T I F F ,  HAVING 

BEEN F I R S T  DULY SWORN, WAS EXAMINED AND T E S T I F I E D  AS 

FOLLOWS:

DI RECT  EXAMINATION

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, PL EA S E .

A LONNIE BROWN.

Q MR. BROWN, WHAT IS YOUR RACE?

A BLACK.

Q OKAY. ARE YOU EMPLOYED AT THE GOODYEAR PLANT IN 

HOUSTON?

A I AM.

Q HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN EMPLOYEE?
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A WELL,  I THINK MY SENIORITY  IS FROM *5 1 .  I F I R S T

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HAS THAT BEEN AUGUST 8TH OF '51 SINCE YOU RETURNED?  

A THAT'S RIGHT.

Q NOW, IN WHAT DEPARTMENT WERE YOU EMPLOYED WHEN YOU 

WERE HIRED?

A WELL,  WHEN I WAS HIRED I HIRED INTO THE LABOR DE­

PARTMENT, WHICH IS 1911 NOW, BUT AT THAT TIME I 

B E L I E V E  EIGHT HUNDRED SOMETHING, BUT NOW I T ' S  DE­

PARTMENT 1911.

Q THAT IS THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A ON THE OTHER S I D E  OF THE ROAD, YOU MIGHT SAY.

Q WHAT JOB WERE YOU F I R S T  PUT IN WHEN YOU WERE HIRED?

A WELL,  I WORKED THE SOAP HOPPER.

Q SOAP WHAT?

A SOAP HOPPER,  DUMPING SOAP FOR OPERATORS TO MAKE I T .

THEY DUMP THE HOPPER FULL OF SOAP FOR THE LATEX.

Q HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN THE TESTS THAT THE COMPANY HAS 

BEEN USING?

A HAVE I EVER TAKEN THE T E ST S ?

Q HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN THEM?

A Y E S ,  S I R .  I TOOK THE T E S T S .

Q WHEN DID YOU F I R S T  TAKE THE T E S T S ,  I F  YOU RECALL?

A WELL,  I TOOK THE TESTS WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT  DOWN

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TO WHERE I COULD TAKE I T .  IT HAD TO BE IN *68.

WHAT IS YOUR EDUCATIONAL GRADE?

TENTH GRADE.

TENTH GRADE?

YES .

WHEN WAS IT  REDUCED?

THAT IS WHEN I HAD THE CHANCE TO TAKE I T .

DID YOU SPEAK WITH A PERSON IN PERSONNEL AFTER YOU

TOOK THE TEST?

THE PERSON IN PERSONNEL AFTER I TOOK THE TEST?

YES .

I TOOK THE TEST ONE MORNING AND THEN THEY TOLD ME 

TO COME BACK AND THEY WOULD T E L L  ME WHETHER I PASSED 

I T  OR NOT. I HAD TO GO BACK AND SEE  WHETHER I 

PASSED THE TEST OR NOT.

WHAT WERE YOU TOLD?

I DIDN'T PASS I T .

WHO TOLD YOU T H I S ?

MR. BOSLEY GAVE ME THE T E S T .  HE GAVE ME THE AMOUNT 

OF SCORE THAT I HAD TO HAVE AND HE SAID THAT I 

ONLY MADE 9 ,  THAT I DIDN'T  QUITE MAKE IT  UP TO THE 

STANDARDS OF WHAT THEY REQUIRED.

HE TOLD YOU YOU MADE 9?

BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH.

OKAY ARE YOU PRESENTLY IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?
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WHEN DID YOU F I R S T  - -  WHEN DID YOU F I R S T  TRANSFER 

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WHAT JOB WERE YOU TRANSFERRED TO?

WELL,  IT  WAS FORK L I F T  DRIVER ,  TOW MOTOR, YOU 

MIGHT SAY,  PULLING RUBBER FROM THE BASE.

HOW DID YOU COME TO BE TRANSFERRED?

MR. VAN OSDALL CAME TO ME AND SAID HE HAD TWO JDBS,  

THAT I COULD GET ONE OF THEM. IT  WAS AN OIL ER  JOB 

AND TOW MOTOR JOB,  AND ASKED WOULD I ACCEPT I T ,  BUT 

HE HAD TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT MY BROTHER SAID ABOUT 

THE O I L E R ' S  JOB AND THEN HE ASKED ME WOULD I AC­

CEPT I T .  I TOLD HIM Y ES .

HE SAID HE HAD TO GET IN TOUCH WITH MY 

BROTHER BEFORE HE COULD T E L L  ME WHETHER I COULD GET 

THE JOB OR NOT. HE GOT IN TOUCH WITH MY BROTHER,  

BUT THERE WAS A JOB LEFT IN TOW MOTOR, SO I WENT 

FOR THAT.

YOUR BROTHER HAS MORE OR LESS CLASS SE N I O R I T Y ?

MORE .

SO HE WAS GIVEN THE F I R S T  VACANCIES ,  IS  THAT RIGHT?  

F I R S T  CHOICE,  Y ES .

WHEN YOU WERE PUT ON THE FORK L I F T  JOB DID YOU

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A FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

Q HOW LONG?

A OH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

Q WAS THAT THE WAREHOUSEMAN AND SHIPPER JOB?

A THAT’ S RIGHT .

Q WERE YOU THEN D I S Q U A L I F I E D  FOR THAT .OB?

A Y ES ,  I WAS D I S Q U A L I F I E D .

Q HOW DID YOU HAPPEN TO FIND OUT YOU WERE NO LONGER

TO BE WORKING WAREHOUSEMAN AND SHIPPER JOB?

A WELL,  THE NEXT MORNING I WENT UP AND COMING BACK 

TO WORK, AND THEY TOLD ME TO GO - -  THEY DID A 

L I T T L E  FUNNY WAY AROUND AND I COULD T E L L  THERE WAS 

SOMETHING FUNNY GOING ON WHEN I WALKED IN THERE.  

THEY SAY,  "YOU HAVE TO GO AND TALK TO MR. VAN 

OSDALL . "

HE SA ID ,  "THEY T E L L  ME YOU'RE GOING BACK.  

ONE OF THE TOW MOTOR DRIVERS S A I D ,  "THEY TOLD ME 

YOU WERE GOING BACK TO LABOR."

I SA I D ,  "WHERE IS THE FOREMAN?"

WELL,  I TALKED TO THE FOREMAN. HE SAY,  

"YOU GOT TO GO BACK TO LABOR."

I SAY,  " I  HAVE?"

HE SAY,  " Y E S . "

I SAY,  "WELL ,  I F  THAT IS WHAT I GOT TO 

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HE SAY , " I  D IDN’ T CLOCK OUT ."

SO I GOT PERMISSION TO GO OUT AND WAIT 

UNTIL MR. VAN OSDALL COME IN.  WHEN MR. VAN OSDALL 

CAME IN ME AND HIM TALKED OUTSIDE OF THE GATE.

WELL,  WE TALKED,  AND HE ASKED ME, SAID - -  THEY 

DIDN’ T T E L L  ME, BUT THEY TOLD HIM I D IDNT' QUALIFY .  

I SA ID ,  "WELL,  AFTER I WAS THERE I COULD SEE  WHAT 

WAS GOING ON, THAT I WASN'T GOING TO, YOU KNOW." 

THAT IS 1400 AND THAT LABOR DEPARTMENT IS 1400,

TOO. THEY SAY I F  YOU QUALIFY THAT YOU WOULD COME 

UP BEHIND,  THAT YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE IN THE 

SAME DEPARTMENT THAT YOU ARE ALREADY WORKING IN 

AND THAT WOULD THROW YOU UP ON TOP, SO I JUST  

FIGURED I WASN'T EVER GOING TO QU ALIFY ,  NOT IN THAT 

DEPARTMENT, AND I EXPLAINED THAT TO HIM.

Q CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.  WERE YOU ON 

THE WAREHOUSE LABOR JOB?

A SURE,  WAREHOUSE LABOR JOB BEFORE I WENT ON THE TOW 

MOTOR.

Q OKAY. WERE YOU TOLD THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO 

BRING YOUR SEN IO RIT Y  WITH YOU AS A WAREHOUSE 

LABORER?

A NOBODY TOLD ME THAT. THEY TOLD ME THAT I WOULD

LOSE ,  THAT I WOULD MAINTAIN IT  FOR TWO YEARS I F  I

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Q NOV/, WHY DO YOU F E E L  YOU WOULD BE ON TOP OF OTHER 

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A I D IDN'T  F E E L  THAT WAY. YOU HEAR RUMORS AROUND

BASICALLY  THEY D IDN'T  WANT YOU TO GET I T .

Q WHO IS  THEY?

A OBVIOUSLY JUST TALK AROUND THE WAREHOUSE.

Q ARE THESE EMPLOYEES?

A EMPLOYEES - -  NOT FROM NO O F F I C I A L .  ONE OF THE

GUYS TOLD ME, THAT WAS THE ONE THEY HAVE TRAINING  

ME, HE S A I D ,  "MAN, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO P A SS ."

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L I K E  TO OBJECT AND ASK THAT THE T E S T I ­

MONY ABOUT WHAT THEY SAID AROUND THE 

WAREHOUSE BE STRI CKE N.

THE WITNESS:  WELL - -

THE COURT: I THINK IT  SHOULD

BE STRICKEN IN ALL PROPRIETY.  I WOULD 

ASK ALSO THAT THE WITNESS RESPOND TO THE 

QUESTIONS OF THE ATTORNEY AND I THINK 

WE WILL  MOVE ALONG MORE RAPIDLY .

Q MR. BROWN, HAD YOU EVER WORKED THE FORK L I F T  JOB

BEFORE YOU WERE TRANSFERRED UP TO THE SHIPPING AND 

T R A F F I C ?

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A  O H ,  Y E S ,  M A ’ A M ,  W H E N  I W A S  W O R K I N G  T H E  S O A P  

H O P P E R .

Q HOW L O N G  H A D  Y O U  D R I V E N  T H E  F O R K  L I F T  T R U C K  W H E N  

Y O U  W E R E  W O R K I N G  P R I O R  T O  T H E  T I M E  Y O U  W E R E  T R A N S ­

F E R R E D  T O  S H I P P I N G  A N D  T R A F F I C ?

A  W E L L  N O W ,  I T  W A S  Q U I T E  A  W H I L E  B E C A U S E  T H A T  I S  T H E  

O N L Y  M E A N S  W E  H A D  O F  G E T T I N G  S O A P  U P  T O  W H E R E  WE  

W O U L D  G E T  T O  I T .  I  H A D  T O  W O R K  S A T U R D A Y S  A N D  S U N ­

D A Y S  .

Q HOW M A N Y  Y E A R S  D I D  Y O U  W O R K  D R I V I N G  T H E  F O R K  L I F T ?

A I G U E S S  A B O U T  T H R E E  Y E A R S .

Q O K A Y .  N O W ,  A F T E R  Y O U  S P O K E  W I T H  M R .  V A N  O S  D A L  L  

W H A T  J O B  W E R E  Y O U  T H E N  P L A C E D  I N ?

A  W E L L ,  H E  A S K E D  ME  A B O U T  - -  A F T E R  WE  T A L K E D  T H E R E

F O R  A  W H I L E  H E  A S K E D  ME  A B O U T  W O U L D  I A C C E P T  B A L E R  

H E L P E R .  I T O L D  H I M  Y E S .  I W A S  I N T E R E S T E D  I N  T R Y ­

I N G  T O  G E T  A  B E T T E R  J O B ,  S O  H E  G A V E  ME T H A T  J O B .

Q DID YOUREALIZE  WHEN YOU TRANSFERRED TO THE BALER 

HELPER JOB IN ’ 69 THAT YOU COULD NOT BRING YOUR 

S EN IO RI T Y  WITH YOU AND THAT AFTER TWO YEARS YOU 

WOULD FOR FE IT  YOUR LABOR DEPARTMENT S E N I O R I T Y ?

A H E  E X P L A I N E D  T H A T  T O  M E ,  Y E S ,  M A ’ A M .  I K N E W  I T .

Q W H Y  W O U L D  Y O U  A C C E P T  A T R A N S F E R  T O  T H E  B A L E R

H E L P E R  J O B  U N D E R  T H O S E  C I R C U M S T A N C E S ?

T E L L  T H E  T R U T H ,  I W A S  T A K I N G  A  C H A N C E  I M I G H T  W I N .

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WOULDN'T MAYBE BE A LAYOFF IN TWO YEARS.  I TOOK 

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TRANSFERRED,  IS  THAT RIGHT?

A YES .

Q WAS THERE A LAYOFF AFTER YOU TRANSFERRED?

A Y E S ,  MA'AM. IT  ALMOST GOT TO ME.

Q WHAT DO YOU MEAN, THEY ALMOST GOT TO YOU?

A ON THE LAYOFF L I S T .

Q BY WHAT SEN IO RI T Y  IS USED FOR LAYOFFS ,  D I V I S I O N  

S E N I O R I T Y ?

A WELL,  FOR WHAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING THEN THE

SEN IO RI T Y  WAS FROM THE TIME I WAS ON THE BALER  

H E L P E R .

Q SO YOU SAY THEY ALMOST GOT TO YOU. ARE YOU SAYING 

THEY ALMOST CAME DOWN THE L I S T  AND YOUWERE ALMOST 

LAID OFF?

A WASN'T VERY FAR.  THEY DIDN'T  QUITE MAKE I T ,  BUT 

I S T I L L  STAYED - -

Q AFTER YOU BECAME A BALER HELPER WERE YOU PROMOTED

TO AN OPERATOR'S JOB TO TRAIN ON ONE OF THE OPERA­

TOR'S JOBS?

A Y E S ,  S I R ;  BALER JOB.

Q BALER OPERATOR'S JOB?

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A OH, THAT HASN’ T BEEN TOO LONG AGO. I DON’ T KNOW 

EXACTLY THE DATE,  BUT I T  HASN'T BEEN TWO MONTHS. 

THAT JUST RECENTLY HAPPENED.

Q ARE YOU S T I L L  ON THAT JOB?

A NO, MA'AM.

Q WHAT WERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAUSED YOU NOT TO 

BE ON THIS BALER OPERATOR'S JOB?

A WELL,  TO GIVE  YOU A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF

WHAT - -  MR. VAN, I W\S COMING FROM LUNCH, AND I MET 

MR. VAN. HE S A I D ,  "LONNIE ,  I ' V E  GOT TO BRING YOU 

BACK."  HE SAY,  "THEY SAY YOU COULD HAVE THE JOB 

UNTIL ON ACCOUNT OF THIS INJUNCTION.  I GOT TO BRI  

YOU BACK TO BALER OPERATOR, I MEAN, TO BALER H ELP ­

E R " ,  AND HE ASKED ME I F  I WOULD T E L L  THE FOREMAN 

WHEN I GOT DOWN THERE THAT I WOULD HAVE TO COME 

BACK.  SO I D ID,  SO THEY SENT ME BACK.

Q DID THIS HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER OF ' 7 1 ,  LAST MONTH?

A I T ' S  BEEN LAST MONTH.

Q NOW, THE INJUNCTION MR. VAN OSDALLV&S REFERRING  

TO, DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THAT WAS THE INJUNCTION 

THAT WAS F I L E D  BY THE UNION?

A WELL NOW, IT  HAD TO BE .  THAT IS THE ONLY ONE - -  

I T  HAD TO BE THAT ONE.

Q NOW, YOU ARE BACK ON BALER HELPER JOB.

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|Q BETWEEN THE TIME THAT MR. BOSLEY TOLD YOU YOU

HAD F A I L E D  THE T E S T ,  THAT YOU MADE A SCORE OF 9 

IN 1968 YOU T E S T I F I E D ,  TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE HAVE 

THERE BEEN PERSONS HIRED AS BALER HELPERS OFF THE 

ST R EET ?

A S INCE  ’ 69 - -  ' 6 8 ?

Q YES .

A OH, Y E S ,  MA'AM.

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ING FURTHER,  YOUR HONOR.

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EXAMINE.

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. BURCH:

Q WELL,  S INCE 196 8 ,  MR. BROWN, BLACK MEN HAVE BEEN 

HIRED OFF THE STREET  AS BALER HELPERS ,  HAVE THEY 

NOT, AFTER YOU F A I LE D  THAT TEST?

A AFTER '6 8 ?

Q Y E S ,  S I R .

A OH, YEAH.

Q HIRED IN THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT?

A S INCE  '6 8 ?

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P R O D U C T I O N  D E P A R T M E N T  T H A T  Y O U  R E F E R R E D  T O ,  T H E  

L A Y O F F  D I D N ' T  G E T  T O  Y O U ,  D I D  I T ?

A  N O .

Q T H E R E  W E R E  J U N I O R  M E N  I N  D E P A R T M E N T A L  S E N I O R I T Y  

WHO W E R E  L A I D  O F F  D U E  T O  L A C K  O F  W O R K ?

A S U R E .

Q D U E  T O  A  C U T B A C K ,  I S  T H A T  R I G H T ?

A  T H E R E  W A S  A  L A Y O F F ?

Q Y E S  .

A  T H O S E  U N D E R  M E  C A M E  I N T O  P R O D U C T I O N  A F T E R  I  D I D  

W E R E  L A I D  O F F .

Q I N C I D E N T A L L Y ,  H A V E  S O M E  O F  T H E M  B E E N  R E C A L L E D

S I N C E  T H A T  T I M E ?

A  T H E Y  C A L L E D  T H E M  B A C K  W H E N  T H E , Y  S T A R T E D  B A C K .

Q A L L  R I G H T ,  S I R .  A T  T H E  T I M E  O F  T H A T  L A Y O F F  Y O U

K N E W  T H A T  Y O U  S T I L L  H A D  S E N I O R I T Y  I N  T H E  L A B O R  

D E P A R T M E N T  I F  Y O U  N E E D E D  I T ?

*  T H A T  C A M E  A F T E R  I H A D  B E E N  G O I N G  U P  T H E R E .  I H A D  

A C C E P T E D  T H E  J O B  W H E N  I F O U N D  O U T  A B O U T  T H A T  I H A D  

T H E  L A B O R  S E N I O R I T Y ,  A N D  T H E N  I F E L T  A L I T T L E  B I T  

B E T T E R .  W H E N  I W E N T  I D I D N ' T  K N O W  I H A D  I T .  I 

W E N T  I N  T H I N K I N G  T H A T  I H A D  T W O  Y E A R S .

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DID THE LAYOFF HAPPEN AFTER THE 1970 CONTRACT NE­

GOTIATIONS,  DO YOU KNOW?

AFTER THE 1970 - -

THE LAYOFF YOU ARE REFERRING TO.

I T  WAS THE LAST ONE THEY HAD, I F  THAT WAS THE 

CONTRACT IN E F F E C T ,  THE LAST LAYOFF.  I DON’ T R E­

MEMBER EXACTLY.

ALL RIGHT.  AT THE TIME YOU TOOK THE TEST DID YOU 

F I L L  OUT YOUR NAME AND PUT A DATE ON THE TEST FORM?

I THINK I DID.  WHEN HE F I R S T  HANDED ME THE PAPER 

I THINK HE S A I D ,  “ SIGN YOUR NAME", AND THEN HE S A ID ,  

"TURN IT  OVE R ."

MR. BURCH: EXCUSE ME. LET ME

HAVE THIS MARKED AS COMPANY E X H I B I T .

THE CLERK :  NO. 16.

MR. BURCH: 17,  I B E L I E V E ,  WOULC

BE NEXT.

MR. BROWN, I WANT TO HAND YOU WHAT HAS BEEN 

MARKED AS COMPANY E X H I B I T  17,  ABOUT THREE PAGES H 

AND I WILL ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THE LAST PAGE AND 

T E L L  US WHETHER THAT IS YOUR NAME AND WHETHER YOU 

WROTE IT  ON THERE.

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AND THE DATE IS  MARCH 8,  1968 ,  IS I T  NOT?

WELL,  THAT IS WHAT’ S ON THERE.

IS  THAT ABOUT THE TIME YOU RECALL TAKING T H I S ?

I T  WAS ' 6 8 .  I KNOW IT  WAS COLD, COOL WEATHER.

I T  COULD HAVE BEEN IN MARCH. I DON’ T KNOW EX­

ACTLY THE MONTH IT WAS.

ARE YOU SURE OF THE SCORE? MR. BOSLEY TOLD YOU 

THAT.

I ’ M SURE WHAT HE TOLD ME.

AND WHAT DID HE T E L L  YOU?

HE SAID - -  THE MINUTE I WALKED IN THERE,  HE WAS 

BUSY AT THE TIME AND THEN HE LOOKED AT SOME PAPERS 

AND HE SA I D ,  "YOU MADE A SCORE OF 9 . ”

DID HE T E L L  YOU WHAT THE ACCEPTABLE SCORE WAS?

DID YOU KNOW HOW CLOSE YOU HAD COME?

NO. AFTER I SAW I HAD FA IL ED  IT  - -  

ALL RIGHT.  LET ME JUST SHOW YOU THE F I R S T  PART 

OF I T .  THIS IS  DATED FEBRUARY 29 ,  1968 ,  AND I

WILL ASK I F  THAT IS A LETTER  THAT YOU WERE GIVEN  

ABOUT THAT DATE,  AND IS  THAT YOUR SIGNATURE?

IT I S N ’ T MY SIGNATURE.  WELL,  THIS WAS SENT DOWN 

TO THE FOREMAN’ S O F F I C E .  I B E L I E V E  THIS WAS 

SENT DOWN I F  WE WANTED TO TAKE THE T E S T .  IS  THIS  

WHAT THE PAPER I S ?

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SEE ING THAT PAPER OR SOMETHING L I K E  I T ?

THEY SENT SOME PAPERS DOWN AND ASKED I F ,  FINDING  

OUT HOW MANY MEN WOULD WANT TO TAKE THE T E S T .  THIS  

COULD HAVE BEEN THE PAPER I SIGNED THAT I WOULD 

WANT TO TAKE THE T E S T ,  BUT THEY DID SEND SOME 

DOWN FINDING HOW MANY MEN THAT WANTED TO TAKE 

THE T ES T .

DOES THAT APPEAR TO BE YOUR SIGNATURE?

THAT I S N ’ T MY SIGNATURE.

MR. BURCH: I OFFER COMPANY 17

IN EV IDENCE .

MR. WHEAT: NO OBJECTION,  YOUR

HONOR.

THE COURT: ALL R IGHT .  I T  IS

ADMITTED.

MR. BURCH: THANK YOU, MR.

BROWN.

PASS THE WITNESS.

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. WHEAT:

Q MR. BROWN, JUST TO MAKE SURE I T  IS CLEAR,  AT THE 

TIME THAT THE LAYOFF ALMOST GOT TO YOU, THE WORST 

THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED WOULD HAVE BEEN YOU WOULD

HAVE TO GO BACK IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT, I S N ’ T THAT
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TRUE?

A THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN.

Q I F  YOU HAD BEEN LAID OFF YOU ACTUALLY WOULD NOT 

HAVE BEEN SENT HOME OUT OF WORK, YOU WOULD JUST

HAVE GONE BACK IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT, I S N ' T  THAT
CORRECT?

A WELL,  I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD HAVE GONE BACK TO 

THE LABOR. I WOULDN'T HAVE WENT OUT BECAUSE MY 

TWO YEARS WASN'T QUITE UP.

Q YOU S T I L L  HAD YOUR S E N I O R I T Y ?

A I COULD GO BACK TO THE LABOR.

Q ALL  RIGHT.  HAVE YOU EVER F I L E D  ANY GRIEVANCES

WITH THE UNION?

A NO.

HAVE YOU EVER ASKED THE UNION TO PROCESS AN AGREE­
MENT FOR YOU?

A NO.

MR. WHEAT: PASS THE WITNESS.

THE COURT: ANY FURTHER QUES­
TIONS?

MRS. MC DONALD: NOTHING.

THE COURT: ALL  RIGHT.  YOU MAY
STEP DOWN.

THE COURT: CALL YOUR NEXT WITNESS.

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PERCY V I T A L ,

WITNESS CALLED BY AND IN BEHALF OF P L A I N T I F F ,  HAVING

BEEN F I R S T  DULY SWORN, WAS EXAMINED AND T E S T I F I E D  AS 

FOLLOWS:

DI RE CT  EXAMINATION 

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, P L EA S E .

A PERCY V I T A L .

Q WHAT IS YOUR RACE?

A BLACK.

Q ARE YOU EMPLOYED BY THE GOODYEAR?

4 YES .

5 OF HOUSTON?

* YES .

} HOUSTON PLANT?

* RIGHT.

J OKAY. WHEN WERE YOU F I R S T  EMPLOYED?

 ̂ ' 6 5 ;  DECEMBER,  ' 6 5 .

■ AND WHAT I s  YOUR EDUCATIONAL L E V E L ,  MR. V I T A L ?

‘ 1 HAVE B . M . E .  DEGREE FROM TEXAS SOUTHERN.

IS THAT A COLLEGE DEGREE?

YES .

WHAT TYPE OF DEGREE IS THAT?

t h a t  i s  m u s i c  e d u c a t i o n , a r e  y o u  a s k i n g  me  when

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I WAS EMPLOYED, OR NOW?

Q WHEN DID YOU GET THAT DEGREE?

A *70 .

Q WHEN YOU WERE EMPLOYED HOW MUCH EDUCATION DID

YOU HAVE?

A APPROXIMATELY 90 HOURS, COLLEGE HOURS.

Q NOW, IN WHAT JOB WERE YOU EMPLOYED?

A AS A LABORER WHEN I WAS HIRED.

Q HOW LONG DID YOU WORK AS A LABORER?

A APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

Q NOW, HAD YOU PRIOR TO THIS TWO AND A HALF YEAR

PERIOD YOU WORKED AS A LABORER,  HAD YOU WORKED ON 

ANY OTHER JOBS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS?

A Y E S ,  I WERE GIVEN A JOB IN 1220 ,  I THINK IT  I S ,  

STOREROOM CLERK ,  FOR ABOUT 45 DAYS,  SOMETHING OR 

ANOTHER - -  ABOUT FOUR OR F I V E  WEEKS,  SOMETHING 

L I K E  THAT.

Q IS THAT THE STOREROOM CLERK JOB IN R ECE IV ING  AND 

STORES?

A YES .

Q HOW LONG DID YOU REMAIN ON THAT JOB?

A ABOUT FOUR WEEKS,  F I V E  WEEKS MAYBE.

Q AND THEN WHAT WERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING

YOUR LEAVING THAT JOB?

A ONE EVENING WHEN I GOT OFF I HAD A NOTE ATTACHED
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TO MY TIME CARD SIGNED BY MR. CHAFF IN,  WHO WAS

THEN THE SUPERVISOR,  TELL ING ME TO RETURN TO THE

LABOR GANG MONDAY MORNING, AND THERE WAS NOTHING

- -  THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS ON THE NOTE.

Q NOW, HAD YOU EVER BEEN ADVISED THAT YOUWERE NOT

PERFORMING THE STOREROOM CLERK JOB S A T I S F A C T O R I L Y ?

A NO, NO ONE INFORMED ME OF THIS AT AL L .

Q HOW LONG AGO AGAIN DID YOU WORK THAT JOB,  HOW

LONG WERE YOU ON I T ?

A APPROXIMATELY FOUR OR F I V E  WEEKS.

Q FOUR OR F I V E  WEEKS?

A YES .

Q NOW, WHAT WAS THE DAY THAT YOU WERE RETURNED - -  NOT 

THE DATE,  BUT THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT YOU WERE 

RETURNED TO THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A THIS WAS A FR ID AY .  I AM SURE IT  WAS BECAUSE I WAS 

TO RETURN TO LABOR ON MONDAY.

Q NOW, WHEN YOU RETURNED TO LABOR ON MONDAY TO YOUR 

KNOWLEDGE WAS A PERSON EMPLOYED, A NEW PERSON IN 

THE STOREROOM CLERK JOB ON MONDAY, THE FOLLOWING 

MONDAY?

A HIS LAST NAME WAS CLARY.

Q DO YOU KNOW MR. CLARY'S  RACE?

A HE IS WHITE.

Q NOW, DID YOU COMPLAIN TO THE COMPANY ABOUT YOUR

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B E I N G  T A K E N  O F F  O F  T H E  S T O R E R O O M  C L E R K ’ S J O B ?

A  W E L L ,  I  D O N ’ T  K NO W I F  Y O U  W O U L D  C A L L  I T  A  C O M P L A I N !  

B U T  O N  S E V E R A L  O C C A S I O N S  I  T A L K E D  W I T H  M R .  B O S L E Y  

A B O U T  T H I S ,  A N D  T H I S  P A R T I C U L A R  J O B  O F  O B T A I N I N G  

A N O T H E R  P O S I T I O N  O T H E R  T H A N  L A B O R .

Q WHO I S  M R .  B O S L E Y ?

A  I  T H I N K  H E  I S  J U S T  A N  I N T E R V I E W .  A N Y W A Y ,  H E  I S

I N  T H E  P E R S O N N E L .  H E  I S  T H E  P E R S O N  T H A T  H A D  H I R E D  

M E .

I  T A L K E D  W I T H  H I M  O N  M A N Y  O C C A S I O N S ,

I  T A L K E D  W I T H  M R .  B O S L E Y ,  B U T  H E  I N F O R M E D  ME  - -  

F I R S T ,  H E  A S K E D  M E  - -  H E  D I D N ’ T  K N O W  WH Y  I  W A S  

T A K E N  O F F .  I N  F A C T ,  H E  A S K E D  M E  WHY D I D  M R .  C O L E ­

M A N  T A K E  ME  O F F  O F  T H I S  P A R T I C U L A R  J O B ,  A N D  I  T O L D  

H I M  T H A T  I  D I D N ’ T  K N O W ,  T H A T  I S  W H Y  I  C O M E  T O  

T A L K  W I T H  H I M ,  Y O U  K N O W ,  S I N C E  H E  H A D  H I R E D  MY  

R E P L A C E M E N T  I  F E L T  L I K E  H E  S H O U L D  P R O B A B L Y  T E L L  M E .  

S O  A N Y W A Y ,  H E  S A Y  H E  D I D N ’ T  H A V E  A N Y  O P E N I N G  F O R  

A N Y  O T H E R  J O B S ,  A N D  K E E P  C H E C K I N G  W I T H  H I M .

s o  a p p r o x i m a t e l y  o n c e  a  m o n t h  f o r  t h e

n e x t  E I G H T E E N  M O N T H S  I  K E P T  C H E C K I N G  W I T H  H I M ,  A N D  

H E  N E V E R  H A D  A  J O B  U N T I L  A P R I L  O F  ’ 6 8 .  H E  N E V E R  

H A D  A  J O B  O P E N I N G .

Y O U  M E A N  T H A T  I S  W H A T  H E  T O L D  Y O U ?

Y E S  .

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Q NOW, WHEN YOU SAY CHECK WITH HIM, WHAT WOULD YOU 

DO?

A HE TOLD ME, ’’WELL,  WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OPEN 

RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU JUST KEEP CHECKING WITH ME."

SO I GO UP AND TALK WITH HIM AND HE SAY,  

"WELL,  WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OPEN."

YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME I WOULD PROBABLY 

NAME A JOB,  L I K E  I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE O I L E R  JOB.

HE TOLD ME, "WELL ,  WE'D L I K E  TO HIRE  PEOPLE WITH 

MECHANICAL E X P E R I E N C E ,  AND HE SAID I WAS TOO SHORT,

AND FOR THE LAB JOB HE SAY,  "WELL ,  WE WOULD L I K E
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TO HIRE  PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME CHEMISTRY,  AND WE 

FIND SOMEONE WHO HAVE MORE CHEMISTRY THAN YOU.  

WHETHER I T ' S  OFF THE STREET  OR THE PLANT,  WE HAVE 

TO HIRE  THEM."

Q AT THE TIME YOU ASKED MR. BOSLEY ABOUT THE O I L E R ' S  

JOB WHAT TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE WAS THE RACE OF THE EM­

PLOYEES IN THE JOB?

A WHITE,  ALL WHITE.

Q AND DID YOU HAVE OCCASION TO SEE  PERSONS WHO WERE 

EMPLOYED IN THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S .  THEY WERE HIRING IN PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT.

Q HOW TALL ARE YOU, MR. V I T A L ?

A I THINK ONLY ABOUT F I V E  SEVEN,  SOMETHING L I K E  THAT.  

I THINK AT THAT TIME THEY SA I D ,  WELL,  F I V E  TEN,

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F I V E  E I G H T ,  SOMETHING L I K E  THAT.  ANYWAY, I WAS 

JUST A L I T T L E  SHORT.

Q DOES THAT REQUIREMENT S T I L L  E X I S T  TODAY, DO YOU 

KNOW?

A I DON’ T THINK SO.

Q DID MR. BOSLEY G IV E  YOU ANY REASON WHY A PERSON 

HAD TO BE F I V E  TEN TO BE HIRED IN PRODUCTION?

A Y E S ,  I THINK HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE BOX THAT 

THE RUBBER WAS TO BE STORED IN WAS FOUR F E E T ,  I 

THINK HE SAI D ,  AND YOU HAD TO BE SO TALL IN ORDER,  

YOU KNOW, TO PUT THE RUBBER IN THE BOX.

Q WERE THERE MACHINES THAT WERE USED OR SOME KIND 

OF CARS THAT WERE USED TO PUT THE RUBBER IN THE 

BOXES?

A WELL,  I THINK AT THAT TIME IN ONE PLANT THERE WAS, 

YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY COULD LOAD THE BOX IN A P I T  

IN ONE OF THE PLANTS,  I THINK.

Q NOW, WHEN YOU WERE REQUESTING A JOB IN THE LAB 

DID YOU HAVE ANY CHEMISTRY?

A NO, I DIDN'T HAVE NO CHEMISTRY.

Q DID MR. BOSLEY ADVISE  YOU HOW HE WOULD DETERMINE  

WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A JOB THAT YOU QU A LI F I ED  

FOR?

A NO. IN FACT,  THE LAST TIME I WENT TO SEE  MR. BOSL

BEFORE I OBTAINED A JOB IN THE LAB,  I ASKED HIM,
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I SAY,  "MR. BOSLEY ,  JUST WHAT JOB IN THE PLANT 

DO I QUALIFY FOR?"

AND HE SAYS,  "WELL,  WHAT DO YOU MEAN?"

AND I SAY,  "WELL ,  IS  THERE ANY JOB I 

CAN WORK IN THIS PLANT OTHER THAN THE LABOR JOB?"

HE WENT IN A ROUND ABOUT WAY TO T EL L  ME 

THAT HE COULDN'T GIVE ME A JOB,  AND S INCE  MR, 

COLEMAN HAD TAKEN ME OFF THIS FORK L I F T  THAT MR. 

COLEMAN WOULD HAVE TO RECOMMEND ME FOR ANOTHER 

JOB .

Q WHO IS MR. COLEMAN?

A MR. COLEMAN IS A FOREMAN IN THE LABOR GROUP.

Q AND WHAT IS HIS RACE?

A WHITE.

Q WHEN DID YOU F IN ALL Y  GET A TRANSFER PERMANENTLY

TO A JOB OUT OF THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A I THINK IT WAS APRIL  OF *08 .

Q AND Wh'AT JOB DID YOU TRANSFER TO?

A LABORATORY TECHNICIAN.

Q NOW, DURING THE PERIOD WHEN YOU BEGAN TO ASK MR.

BOSLEY ABOUT JOBS ,  O I L E R ,  PRODUCTION AND LAB,  AND 

THE TIME YOU GOT A JOB IN THE LAB IN APRIL  OF 1968,  

TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE WERE ANY PERSONS EMPLOYED IN THE 

LAB IN THAT JOB THAT YOU WERE SEEKING?

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THAT WAS ABOUT SEVEN WHO DID NOT HAVE ANY CHEMISTRY.  

EXCUSE ME.

Q NOW, AFTER YOU WERE PLACED ON THE JOB IN THE LAB 

DEPARTMENT DID YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE 

MANAGER OR THE HEAD OF THE LAB DEPARTMENT CONCERN­

ING YOUR EDUCATIONAL LE V E L ?

A WELL,  WHEN MR. BOSLEY GAVE ME THIS JOB IN THE LAB,  

WELL,  MR. ROWSLEY,  THE LABORATORY FOREMAN, THE 

LABORATORY MANAGER, I GUESS ,  WAS THERE AND HE 

SORT OF INTERVIEWED ME ALONG WITH MR. BOSLEY.  THE 

ONLY THING HE SAY ABOUT EDUCATION,  I THINK HE 

S A I D ,  " I  WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A 

LOT OF WORK IN THE LAB AND EDUCATION HAS NOTHING 

TO DO WITH T H I S . "

HE SAY,  '‘ SOME PEOPLE WITH EDUCATION CAN'T

DO THE WORK." HE SAY,  "THE BEST LABORATORY 

TECHNICIAN I EVER HAD ONLY HAD A NINTH GRADE EDUCA­

T I O N . "

Q WHO IS THIS PERSON HE IS TALKING ABOUT?

A MR. HAROLD NECESSARY.

Q WHAT IS HIS RACE?

A WHITE.

Q WHAT IS MR. NECESSARY'S  RACE?

A WHITE.

Q WHAT WERE YOUR JOB DUTIES WHEN YOU GOT THE JOB IN

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THE LAB?

OH, I P ICK  UP SAMPLES.  T H E R E ’ S TWO DI FF ERE NT  

JOBS ,  ONE IS LABELLED A JOB AND ONE IS  C JOB.  ONE 

I S  P ICKING UP L IQ UI D  SAMPLES S T I L L  IN THE LATEX  

FORM. YOU ADD THREE D IFFERE NT  CHEMICALS TO IT  

AND TURN IT  INTO A RUBBER,  YOU KNOW, AND PUT IT  IN 

THE OVEN AND DRY.

THEN YOU RUN IT  ON WHAT WE CALL AN 

AMMONIA MACHINE,  AND FROM THERE YOU GIVE  THE RE­

SULTS TO THE P . O . E . ,  AND THAT'S I T .

WELL,  THE A JOB ,  YOU TAKE A SAMPLE FROM

THE F I N I S H  L I N E .

HOW DO YOU TAKE THE SAMPLE?

CUT IT  WITH A WIRE .  THE RUBBER COMES OUT IN THE 

BLOCK FORM. YOU CUT APPROXIMATELY 250 GRAMS OFF 

AND YOU MASH IT  THROUGH THE MILL  AND RUN IT  ON A 

MACHINE, AND YOU RUN A MOISTURE GOING THROUGH THE 

MILL THE SAME WAY BUT HEAT I T  250 DEGREES.

HOW LONG DID IT  TAKE YOU TO LEARN HOW TO PERFORM 

THIS JOB?

BOTH DIFFERENT  JOBS ,  APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS.

NOW, THE MACHINE THAT YOU SPOKE OF,  IS THIS THE

MACHINE THAT TESTS THE RUBBER AND YOU HAVE TO BE

ABLE TO READ THE GRAPHS OR SOMETHING?

Y E S ,  YOU CUT APPROXIMATELY 30 GRAMS OF RUBBER AND

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YOU PLACE IT  IN THE MACHINE AND YOU CLOSE I T ,

AND IT  READS A GRAPH CHART.

Q DURING THE TIME THAT YOU WERE EMPLOYED IN LABOR 

DID YOU KNOW MR. MC ELROY,  A WHITE PERSON WHO 

CAME TO THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  I DO.

Q DO YOU RECALL APPROXIMATELY WHEN HE CAME INTO THE

LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A NO, I DIDN’ T .  HE WAS HIRED,  I UNDERSTAND, A 

L I T T L E  BEFORE I WAS.

Q NOW, DO YOU KNOW MR. LYONS,  C.  LYONS?

A Y E S ,  I KNOW MR. LYONS.

Q DO YOU KNOW WHAT JOB MR. LOYONS, DO YOU KNOW WHE­

THER OR NOT MR. LYONS EVER DROVE A TRUCK?

A HE WAS DRIVING A TRUCK WHEN I CAME THERE.

Q WHAT IS THE NAME OF THAT JOB?

A I T ' S  A LABOR JOB ,  I T ’ S A PICKUP TRUCK.  THEY MAKE

D E L I V E R I E S  IN P I CK UP S ,  YOU KNOW.

Q DID HE REMAIN ON THAT JOB AFTER MR. MC ELROY WAS 

EMPLOYED?

A NO. MR. MC ELROY WAS GIVEN THAT JOB AND MR. LYONS 

WAS SENT BACK TO THE JANITOR,  I THINK.

Q WORKING AS A JANITOR,  WAS HE WORKING IN S I DE  OR 

OUTSIDE THE BUILDING?

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IN THE JANITOR AT THAT TIME THEY COULD MOVE THEM 

IN S ID E  TODAY AND OUTSIDE TOMORROW, JUST WHEREVER 

THEY WANTED THEM.
DO YOU RECALL MR. MC ELROY BEING TRANSFERRED OUT 

OF THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

Y E S ,  I KNOW AT LEAST TWO T IMES .  ONE TIME THEY 

SENT HIM TO THE O I L E R S .  I DON’ T KNOW WHAT HAP­

PENED,  BUT I HAD HEARD THEY GOT SOME COMPLAINTS ;  

WITHOUT TE LL IN G ME THAT, HE THEN RETURNED?

YEAH,  HE RETURNED TO DRIVING A TRUCK AGAIN AND THEN 

LATER HE TRANSFERRED TO THE GUARD JOB,  THE SECURITY  

I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL I T ,  AND, AGAIN,  HE WENT

BACK TO TRUCKS.

NOW, YOU WERE IN THE LABOR WHAT, E IGHTEEN MONTHS, 

APPROXIMATELY?

L I T T L E  BETT ER .  I THINK FROM '65 TO A P R I L  OF ' 6 8 ,  

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ABOUT FOUR OR F I V E  WEEKS."iif
DID YOU SEE ANY NEW EMPLOYEES AS THEY CAME INTO THE 

LABOR DEPARTMENT HIRED IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S .
Q AND DID YOU SEE  ANY NEW EMPLOYEES AS THEY WERE

TRANSFERRED OUT, DID YOU E E  THE PROCESS HAPPENING,  

PEOPLE BEING EMPLOYED IN THE LABOR AND THEN BEING  

TRANSFERRED OUT?

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WAS THIS WHITE AND BLACKS?

YES .

DID YOU FORM ANY OPINION AS TO THE PERIOD OF TIME 

THAT WHITES TENDED TO REMAIN IN THE LABOR DEPART­

MENT DURING THE TIME THAT YOU WERE THERE AS COM­

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MAINED IN THE DEPARTMENT BEFORE THEY TRANSFERRED

OUT'

MR. WHEAT: OBJECTION AS TO

OPINION,  YOUR HONOR.

MR. BURCH: OBJECT ION.  SHE

I S N ' T  ASKING FOR A QUESTION OF FACT.  IT  

WOULDN'T BE PROPER FOR HIM TO T E S T I F Y  TO 

AN OPINION OF THIS SORT.

MRS.MC DONALD: YOUR HONOR, I

THINK I LAID THE PROPER PR EDI CA TE .  I 

THINK MR. V ITA L  DURING THE TIME HE WAS 

EMPLOYED SAW PEOPLE AS THEY CAME AND 

L E F T .  THE COURT MAY HAVE TO DECIDE  WHAT 

WEIGHT IT  WILL G IV E  TO MR. V I T A L ' S  T E S T I ­

MONY, BUT I THINK HE IS  IN POSITION TO 

GIVE  HIS  OPINION.

THE COURT: G IV E  YOUR OPINION

AS YOU KNOW I T .

THE WITNESS:  WILL  YOU STATE TH
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QUESTION AGAIN,  P L EA S E .

DURING THE E IGHTEEN MONTHS YOU WERE IN THE 

LABOR DEPARTMENT DID YOU SEE  WHITE AND BLACK PER­

SONS BEING EMPLOYED IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT AND 

THEN EVENTUALLY BEING TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE LABOR 

DEPARTMENT TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS?

Y E S ,  I WOULD SAY,  WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MR. MC ELRO Y 

THEY REMAINED THERE JUST A SHORT TIME.

MY QUESTION IS DID YOU FORM ANY OPINION AS TO THE 

LENGTH OF TIME THAT WHITE EMPLOYEES GENERALLY SERVED  

IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT BEFORE THEY WERE TRANS­

FERRED OUT, AS COMPARED WITH THE BLACK EMPLOYEES?

YES .

WHAT WAS THAT OPINION?

WELL,  WHEN A WHITE WAS HIRED IN THE LABOR GROUP 

HE DIDN’ T START AT THE BOTTOM JOB AS OUTDOORS OR 

YARDMAN. HE STARTED IN S IDE  IN THE BOX FACTORY,

WHICH IS ONE OF THE BETTER JOBS .

THEN HOW LONG DID HE GENERALLY REMAIN?

I WOULD SAY UNTIL THERE WAS AN OPENING. THAT IS  

THE OPINION I FORMED. HE WAS JUST THERE UNTIL AN 

OPENING WAS IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

DID THE BLACK EMPLOYEES HIRED DURING THE TIME YOU 

WERE THERE TEND TO REMAIN IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT 

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WHITES HIRED DURING THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME?

IN MY OPINION I WOULD SAY Y E S .

CAN YOU GIVE  THE COURT SOME EXAMPLES OF WHITE EM­

PLOYEES WHO WERE EMPLOYED I N I T I A L L Y  INTO THE MORE 

DESIRABLE  JOBS I N S I D E ,  AS YOU PUT I T ?

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NAMES. DO YOU KNOW THE NAMES OF ANY OF THESE  

PEOPLE?

THAT WERE EMPLOYED IN THE LABOR GROUP?

IN JOBS ON THE I N S I D E ,  WHITE PERSONS.

L I K E  MR. MC ELROY ,  FOR EXAMPLE,  HE WAS HIRED IN ­

S I D E .  MR. GOYER,  I DON'T KNOW HIS F I R S T  NAME, HE 

WAS HIRED I N S I D E .  HE 'S  BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL D I F ­

FERENT DEPARTMENTS.

TRANSFERRED OUT AND THEN CAME BACK?

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REQUIREMENTS.  ANYWAY, HE TRANSFERRED TO SEVERAL  

DIFFERENT  JOBS .  THOSE ARE ABOUT THE ONLY NAMES OF 

WHITES I CAN REMEMBER.

MR. V I T A L ,  DID YOU SIGN THE CHARGE THAT WAS F I L E D

BY MR. R.  L .  JOHNSON?

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P L A I N T I F F  IN THIS CASE?

Y E S ,  I DID.

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C O M M I S S I O N  I N V E S T I G A T E  T H A T  C H A R G E ?

A  Y E S ,  T O  MY K N O W L E D G E .  I  D O N ' T  R E C A L L  H I S  N A M E

N O W ,  W I T H  T H E  E Q U A L  O P P O R T U N I T Y ,  B U T  W H E N  I  T A L K E D  

T O  H I M

q  W I T H O U T  T E L L I N G  ME  W H A T  H E  S A I D ,  D I D  H E  V I S I T  T H E  

P L A N T ?

A  Y E S .  H E  T O L D  ME  H E  W O U L D  B E  T H E R E  T H A T  M O N D A Y .

I  D O N ' T  R E C A L L  T H E  D A Y  I T  W A S  T H A T  I  T A L K E D  W I T H  

H I M .  I T  W A S  T H E  W E E K  B E F O R E ,  A N D  H E  T O L D  ME  H E  

W O U L D  B E  T H E R E  T H A T  M O N D A Y  T O  I N V E S T I G A T E .

Q D I D  A N  O F F I C I A L  F R O M  T H E  E Q U A L  E M P L O Y M E N T  C O M M I S ­

S I O N  V I S I T  T H E  C O M P A N Y ?

A  Y E S ,  H E  T O L D  M E  H E  H A D .

Q HOW L O N G  T O  Y O U R  K N O W L E D G E  A F T E R  T H I S  V I S I T  W A S  

M A D E ,  W H A T  P E R I O D  O F  T I M E  W A S  T H E R E  B E T W E E N  T H E  

T I M E  T H E  V I S I T  W A S  M A D E  A N D  T H E  T I M E  Y O U  G O T  T H E  

J O B  I N  T H E  L A B ?

A  I D O N ' T  K N O W .  I W O U L D  S A Y  W I T H I N  T WO W E E K S .

N O ,  E X C U S E  M E  - -  I T  W A S  W I T H I N  T W O  W E E K S  

M R .  B O S L E Y  C A L L E D  M E  A N D  A S K E D  ME I F  I W A N T E D  T H E  

J O B ,  A N D  E V E N  A F T E R  H E  A S K E D  M E  I F  I  W A N T E D  I T ,

I T  W A S  A C O U P L E  O F  M O N T H S  B E F O R E  I G O T  I T .

Q A F T E R  T H E  T I M E  M R .  B O S L E Y  C A L L E D  Y O U  I N  A N D  A S K E D  

Y O U  I F  Y O U  W A N T E D  T H E  J O B  W E R E  O T H E R  P E R S O N S  E M ­

P L O Y E D  I N  T H E  L A B ?

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A Y E S ,  THERE WERE.

Q HOW MANY PERSONS?

A I KNOW ONE FOR SURE,  PROBABLY TWO.

Q DO YOU KNOW THEIR  NAMES?

A NO, I DON’ T.  ONE QUIT .  THE OTHER ONE WAS PROB­

ABLY SETTLEMEYER .

Q IS HE WHITE?

A YES .

Q HAVE YOU EVER ATTEMPTED TO F I L E  A GRIEVANCE THROUGH 

THE DEFENDANT UNION RE PRE SENTATIVES?

A Y E S ,  I HAVE.  THAT WAS WHEN I WAS IN THE LABOR 

GROUP.

Q WHAT WAS THIS GRIEVANCE ABOUT?

A WELL,  MR. COLEMAN, THE LABOR FOREMAN, HAD CALLED

ME IN ONE DAY AND THEN I WAS SENT BACK HOME, AND

THE CONTRACT STATED I F  YOU WERE CALLED IN YOU WOULD 

BE GUARANTEED FOUR HOURS OF PAY REGARDLESS,  AND I 

F I L E D  A GRIEVANCE TO THAT E F F E C T .

Q YOU WERE CALLED IN BY THE COMPANY?

A YES .

Q AND AFTER YOU GOT THERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE NEED OF 

YOUR S E R V I C E S ;  IS THIS WHAT HAPPENED?

A YES .

Q THEN YOU WERE SENT HOME?

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A N D  G E T  Y O U R  F O U R  H O U R S *  P A Y ?

W E L L ,  T H E  C H I E F  S T E W A R D  A T  T H A T  T I M E ,  H E  F I L E D  I T .  

M R .  J O H N S O N  W A S  S T E W A R D  A T  T H A T  T I M E  A N D  H E  F I L E D  

I T  W I T H  T H E  C H I E F  S T E W A R D .  T H E  C H I E F  S T E W A R D  I N  

T U R N  T O L D  ME  T H A T  H E  D I D  A L L  H E  C O U L D  A N D  T H E Y  

W A S N ’ T  G O I N G  T O  P A Y  I T  B E C A U S E  T H E Y  E X P E C T E D  T H A T  

I T  W A S N ’ T  A N Y  W O R K  T O  B E  P E R F O R M E D .  Y O U  S E E ,  I

W A S N ’ T  E X P E C T I N G  A N Y  P A Y .

M R S .  MC D O N A L D :  N O T H I N G  F U R ­

T H E R ,  Y O U R  H O N O R .

T H E  C O U R T :  A L L  R I G H T .  C R O S S

E X A M I N A T I O N .

C R O S S  E X A M I N A T I O N

B Y M R .  B U R C H :

Q MR . 'V I T A L , S I N C E

K I N D O F  T R A I N I N G

A W H A T K I N D O F T R A

Q Y E S  , S I R .

A I T R A I N E D ON T WO

P I C K I N G  U P  S A M P L E S ,  R U B B E R  S A M P L E S  A N D  L A T E X  

S A M P L E S ,  A N D  B R I N G I N G  T H E M  B A C K  T O  T H E  L A B .  T H E N ,  

Y O U  K N O W ,  M A R K  T H E M  T H R O U G H  T H E  M I L L  A N D  R U N N I N G  

T H E  M A C H I N E S ,  R U N N I N G  T H E  S A M P L E S .

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T O  W O R K  W I T H  Y O U  A N D  S H O W  Y O U  T H E  W A Y  T H E  J O B  

O P E R A T E S ?

O H ,  Y E S .  I N  T H E  B E G I N N I N G ,  Y O U  M E A N ?

y e s ,  i n  t h e  b e g i n n i n g , i n  f a c t ,  w a s  a n o t h e r  e m ­

p l o y e e  A S S I G N E D  T O  T H E  J O B  O N  O V E R T I M E  O R  S O M E  

O T H E R  B A S I S  T O  B E  T H E R E  W I T H  Y O U  W H I L E  Y O U  L E A R N E D  

I  D O N ' T  T H I N K  ON  O V E R T I M E .  I  D O N ' T  T H I N K  S O .

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Y E S ,  T H I S  I S  T H E  C U S T O M  O F  E V E R Y B O D Y  T H A T  C O M E S

I N  T H E  L A B .

HOW L O N G  W A S  T H A T  C U S T O M  F O L L O W E D ,  D O  Y O U  K N O W ,

I N  Y O U R  C A S E ?

I T H I N K  A P P R O X I M A T E L Y  T W O  W E E K S .  I T  L A S T E D  A  

L I T T L E  L O N G E R  T H A N  U S U A L  B E C A U S E  T H E Y  W A S N ' T  A  

C E R T A I N  T Y P E  O F  R U B B E R  A T  T H A T  P A R T I C U L A R  T I M E  

A N D  M R .  A L B R E C H T  W A N T E D  ME  T O  S T A Y  I N  T R A I N I N G .  

W H E N  Y O U  W O R K E D  F O R  A  W H I L E  A S  A  F O R K  T R U C K  O P E R A  

T O R  D I D  Y O U  H A V E  A N Y  D I F F I C U L T Y  I N  O P E R A T I N G  T H E

T R U C K ?

N O T  A T  A L L .

W H E R E  D I D  Y O U  W O R K  D U R I N G  T H A T  T I M E ?

I N  T H E  B O X  F A C T O R Y .

W A S  Y O U R  C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  T H E N  W A R E H O U S E  L A B O R E R ?

I T  W A S  I N  S H I P P I N G ,  I  M E A N ,  S T O R E R O O M  C L E R K .

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THAT IS  THE C L A S S I F I C A T I O N .

ALL RIGHT.  AT THE TIME YOU WENT INTO THE JOB AS 

STOREROOM CLERK WERE THERE ANY OTHER BLACK EM­

PLOYEES IN THAT C L A S S I F I C A T I O N ?

A Y ES ,  ONE OTHER.

Q WHEN DID YOU GO INTO THAT C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  OF STORE­

ROOM CLERK?

A ABOUT THE 29TH OR 30TH OF DECEMBER,  ' 6 5 ,  SOMETHING 

L I K E  THAT.

Q AND WHEN WERE YOU F I R S T  EMPLOYED?

A ON THE 2 7 TH.

Q SO WERE YOU HIRED INTO THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A Y E S ,  I WAS.

Q THEN WERE YOU PUT IN THE JOB OF STOREROOM CLERK

WITHIN THREE OR FOUR DAYS?

A YES .

Q ALL RIGHT .  AND HOW LONG DID YOU STAY ON THAT JOB?

A UNTIL APPROXIMATELY - -  WELL,  ABOUT THE LAST WEEK

OF JANUARY,  WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT FOUR WEEKS,  

F I V E  WEEKS MAYBE.

ALL RIGHT.  AND IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY THAT ONE DAY 

YOU SHOWED UP AND SOME OTHER EMPLOYEE TOLD YOU THAT 

YOU WERE GOING TO BE MOVED BACK TO LABOR?

NO, HE DIDN'T  T E L L  ME. HE PUT A NOTE ON MY TIME 

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OUT THAT NIGHT THERE WAS A NOTE WITH MY TIME CARD 

T E L L I N G  ME TO RETURN TO THE LABOR GANG MONDAY

MORNING.

AND IT IS YOUR TESTIMONY DURING THE F I V E  OR S IX  

WEEKS YOU WERE WORKING AS STOREROOM CLERK YOU WERE 

NEVER TOLD THAT YOUR WORK WAS UNSATISFACTORY?

I WAS NEVER TOLD.

AND YOU OPERATED THE TRUCK P E R F E CT L Y?

RIGHT.

WHEN YOU WERE MOVED INTO THE LAB AS I UNDERSTAND 

IT MR. BOSLEY CALLED YOU AND TOLD YOU - -  WHAT DID 

HE SAY TO YOU WHEN HE CALLED ABOUT THAT JOB?

WELL,  HE HAD MY CARD PULLED AND THE CARD HAD THE 

NOTE THERE TO SEE MR. B O S LE Y.  HE ASKED ME WOULD I 

BE INTERESTED IN A JOB IN THE LA B .  I TOLD HIM Y E S .  

SO HE S A Y S,  " T H I S  IS NOTHING D E F I N I T E ,  BUT I TALKED  

WITH MR. A L B RE CH T ,  THE LABORATORY FOREMAN. "

I THINK HE ASKED ME IF I COULD COME IN 

A L I T T L E  EARLY THE NEXT DAY,  OR SOMETHING L I K E  

THAT.

AND THE NEXT DAY THEN DID YOU INTERVIEW WITH MR. 

ALBRECHT?

I DON'T R EC ALL  IF IT WAS THE NEXT DAY,  BUT WITHIN 

THE NEXT FEW DAYS OR SO I DID TALK TO MR. ALBRECHT .  

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YOU HAD BEEN GOING TO MR. BOSLEY FROM TIME TO 

TIME ASKING ABOUT A TRANSFER?

A RIGHT.

Q HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU THINK YOU WENT TO MR. BOSLEY?  

A I WOULD SAY APPROXIMATELY ONCE A MONTH.

Q ALL RIGHT.  DID ANYTHING HAPPEN FROM THE LAST TIME 

YOU WENT TO SEE  HIM UNTIL THE TIME THAT HE CALLED  

TO OFFER YOU THE JOB,  EXCEPT THE E . E . O . C .  I N V E S T I ­

GATION THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?

A DID ANYTHING HAPPEN L I K E  WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

Q ANYTHING AT ALL HAPPEN BETWEEN YOU OR MR. BOSLEY

OR ANYONE EL SE  WITH RESPECT TO YOUR WANTING A JOB?

A NOT THAT I CAN RECALL .

Q AND THE LAB JOB WAS ONE OF THOSE YOU INDICATED TO 

HIM YOU WOULD L I K E  TO HAVE, I S  THAT CORRECT?

A Y E S .  I HAD INDICATED TO HIM I WOULD L I K E  TO TRY 

ANY DEPARTMENT OTHER THAN LABOR, YES .

Q ALL RIGHT.  DID YOU S P E C I F I C A L L Y  MENTION THE LAB 

TO HIM?

A YES .

Q WHEN DID YOU FI,RST MENTION THE LAB TO HIM, DO YOU

REMEMBER?

A I DON'T KNOW. L I K E  I SAY,  I WENT TO SEE  HIM SO

MANY T IMES .  I DIDN'T  KNOW WHICH TIME S P E C I F I C A L L Y .  

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Q HAD YOU BEEN TO SEE  HIM AS RECENTLY AS SAY A 

MONTH BEFORE YOU WERE OFFERED THE JOB?

A I WOULD SAY SO. I WOULDN’ T JUST SAY PINPOINT A

MONTH, BUT I WOULD SAY Y E S .

Q ALL RIGHT.  NOW, YOU T E S T I F I E D  ABOUT THE TIME WHEN 

YOU WERE BACK IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT, AND AS I 

UNDERSTAND YOUR TESTIMONY YOU SAY THAT WHITES 

CAME INTO THE LABOR DEPARTMENT AND THEN TRANS­

FERRED OUT, AND YOU HAVE GIVEN US TWO NAMES.

MR. GOYER,  IS HE ONE OF THOSE WHO .TRANSFERRED OUT? 

A YES .

Q THE ONLY OTHER NAME YOU GAVE US IS MR. MC ELROY.

A YES .

Q MR. MC ELROY WAS IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT S T I L L  AS 

LATE AS THIS YEAR,  WASN’ T HE?

A YES .

Q AND YOU HAD BEEN OUT AND IN THE LAB JOB FOR SOME­

TIME?

A YES .

Q DURING THE TIME THAT YOU WERE IN THE LABOR DE­

PARTMENT IS IT  TRUE THAT BLACK EMPLOYEES ON SOME

OCCASIONS WERE HIRED INTO THE LABOR DEPARTMENT AND 

THEN TRANSFERRED OUT?

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THE LAB JOB,  YOU HAVE GIVEN US THE NAME OF MR. 

S ET T L EM EY ER .

A YES .

Q IS  IT  YOUR TESTIMONY HE WENT INTO THE LAB JOB

AFTER YOU TOLD MR. BOSLEY YOU WOULD L I K E  TO HAVE 

I T  BUT BEFORE YOU STARTED?

A L I K E  I SAY,  I TALKED WITH MR. SETTLEMEYER .  I DOUBT 

I F  HE HAS TOO MUCH SENIO RITY  ON ME.

Q DO YOU KNOW I F  MR. SETTLEMEYER EVER WORKED IN THE 

COMPANY BEFORE?

A HE WORKED IN PRODUCTION BEFORE COMING WITH THE LAB.  

I WAS EMPLOYED WITH THE COMPANY BEFORE HE WAS. IN 

FACT,  F I V E  OR S I X  OR SEVEN MEN THEY HIRED IN THE 

LAB DURING THE TIME,  ALL THIS TIME I 'M TRYING TO 

GET OUT OF THE LABOR GROUP AND I WAS IN THE COM­

PANY BEFORE THEM.

Q ALL RIGHT.

MR. BURCH: PASS THE WITNESS.

THE COURT: MR. WHEAT.

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. WHEAT:

Q MR. V I T A L ,  I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE GRIEVANCE

YOU F I L E D .  F I R S T ,  WHEN WAS T HI S?
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I DON’ T KNOW, PROBABLY ' 6 6 ,  PROBABLY IN ' 6 6 .

WHO IS THE C H IE F  STEWARD AT THAT TIME?

MARTY JACKSON.

ARE YOU T E LL I N G  US THERE WAS A CONTRACT CLAUSE  

IN FORCE AND E F F E C T  THEN REQUIRING THE COMPANY TO 

PAY YOU FOUR HOURS SHOW-UP PAY?

YES .

WHAT WERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF YOUR REQUESTING THAT 

SHOW-UP PAY,  MR. V I T A L ?

WELL,  THE CIRCUMSTANCES,  MR. COLEMAN CALLED ME AND

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ASKED ME DID I WANT TO WORK SOME OVERTIME.

HAD YOU WORKED A S H I F T ?

HAD I WORKED A S H I F T ?

YES .

THAT PARTICULAR DAY?

YES .

I DON’ T THINK SO.

WELL,  WHEN YOU SAY HE ASKED YOU TO WORK OVERTIME,  

MR. V I T A L ,  WHAT DO YOU MEAN? HAD YOU PUT IN EIGHT

HOURS?

I D IDN’ T QUESTION HIM AS TO WHAT HE MEANT. HE 

SA I D ,  ’’ COME IN” , AND I CAME IN.

DID HE CALL YOU AT HOME?

Y E S ,  HE DID.

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T O  B E  O F F  I F  H E  C A L L E D  M E  A T  H O M E .

W A S  I T  M O R N I N G  O R  A F T E R N O O N ?

I  D O N ’ T  R E M E M B E R .

W H E N  H A D  Y O U  M O S T  R E C E N T L Y  W O R K E D  P R I O R  T O  T H E  

T I M E  H E  C A L L E D  Y O U ?

C O U L D N ' T  H A V E  B E E N  O V E R  T W O  D A Y S .  I  W A S  O N L Y  O F F  

T W O  D A Y S  P E R  W E E K .

A L L  R I G H T .  N O W ,  A R E  W E  T A L K I N G  A B O U T  T H E  C O N T R A C T  

C L A U S E  T H A T  P R O V I D E S  T H A T  W H E N  E M P L O Y E E S  T H A T  

H A V E  L E F T  T H E  P L A N T  A R E  C A L L E D  B A C K  T O  W O R K  A F T E R  

T H E I R  R E G U L A R  S H I F T  H O U R S  T H A T  T H E Y  W I L L  B E  P A I D  

A M I N I M U M  O F  F O U R  H O U R S '  P A Y ?

I S U P P O S E  S O .  T H A T  W A S  A B O U T  ' 6 6 ,  I  T H I N K ,  S O M E ­

T H I N G  L I K E  T H A T .

A L L  R I G H T .  A N D  Y O U  A R E  S A Y I N G  T H A T  I T  M I G H T  H A V E  

B E E N  A  C O U P L E  O F  D A Y S  S I N C E  Y O U  H A D  W O R K E D  A T  T H E  

T I M E  H E  C A L L E D  Y O U ?

I S A I D  I T  C O U L D N ’ T  H A V E  B E E N  M O R E  T H A N  T W O .  I  AM 

O N L Y  O F F  T WO D A Y S  P E R  W E E K .  I T  C O U L D  H A V E  B E E N  O N E  

D A Y .  I  D O N ' T  R E M E M B E R  A T  T H E  T I M E .

A L L  R I G H T .  Y O U  F E L T  T H A T  Y O U  S H O U L D  T A K E  T H E  F O U R  

H O U R S  E X T R A  P A Y  O R  S H O W - U P  P A Y  B E C A U S E  Y O U  H A D  

B E E N  C A L L E D  B A C K  T O  W O R K  A F T E R  A  R E G U L A R  S H I F T ?

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AND YOU INTERPRETED BEING CALLED BACK TO WORK 

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BEEN MORE THAN TWO.

I T  COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MORE THAN TWO DAYS?

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THIS IS  THE CONTRACT CLAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?

I SUPPOSE SO. L I K E  I SA I D ,  APPROXIMATELY 1966 ,

BUT IT  COULD HAVE BEEN ' 6 7 .  I DON'T KNOW.

ALL RIGHT.

BUT I AM SURE IT  IS ON RECORD SOME PLACE BECAUSE  

WE HAVE IT  TYPED UP. I THINK THAT WAS MR. JOHNSON.  

ANYWAY, IT WAS A WRITTEN AGREEMENT, IT  WASN'T 

VERBAL .  IT  WAS WRITTEN.

Y E S ,  S I R .  I S N ' T  IT  TRUE THAT MR. JACKSON TOLD YOU 

THAT HE COULD NOT COLLECT THE PAY FOR YOU BECAUSE  

YOU HADN'T ACTUALLY WORKED THE S H I FT  BEFORE THE 

TIME YOU WERE CALLED BACK TO THE PLANT?

HE DIDN'T  T E L L  ME THAT.

HE D IDN'T  T E L L  YOU THAT IS  THE REASON HE COULDN'T  

FORCE THE COMPANY TO PAY YOU?

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IS  THAT THE ONLY GRIEVANCE YOU EVER F I L E D ?

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Q ALL RIGHT.  NOW, YOU MENTIONED AN OCCASION WHEN

YOU REPORTED TO WORK AND FOUND A NOTE OR YOU WERE 

AT WORK AND FOUND A NOTE ATTACHED TO YOUR TIME 

CARD ADVISING YOU TO REPORT BACK TO THE LABOR 

GANG. WHEN DID THAT OCCUR?

A THAT WAS LAST WEEK OF JANUARY OF ' 6 6 .

Q ALL RIGHT .  AT THAT TIME WHO WAS YOUR CH IE F  STEWARD? 

A I DON'T REMEMBER. I THINK IT  WAS MARTY JACKSON,

I B E L I E V E .

Q DID THAT HAPPEN BEFORE OR AFTER THE TIME YOU F I L E D  

GRIEVANCE ABOUT THE FOUR HOURS' PAY?

A STATE THAT AGAIN?

Q DID THAT HAPPEN BEFORE OR AFTER THE TIME - -  

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THE GRIEVANCE?

Q YOU B E L I E V E  YOUR CHIEF  STEWARD WAS MR. JACKSON AT 

THAT TIME?

A I B E L I E V E ,  I 'M NOT SURE.

Q DID MR. JACKSON REFUSE TO PROCESS THE GRIEVANCE BE­

CAUSE OF YOUR BEING SENT BACK TO THE LABOR GANG?

A I THINK HE D IDN'T  REFUSE TO PROCESS I T .  HE 

PROCESSED IT  AND NOTHING BECAME OF I T .

Q DID HE PROCESS I T ?

A THAT IS WHAT HE SA ID .  HE CAME AND TOLD ME WHAT

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Q H A V E  Y O U  P R E S E N T E D  H I M  W I T H  A  G R I E V A N C E  A B O U T  B E ­

I N G  R E T U R N E D  T O  T H E  L A B O R  G A N G ?

A N O ,  I  D I D N ' T .

Q Y O U  D I D N ' T  F I L E  A  G R I E V A N C E  A B O U T  T H A T  W I T H  H I M ?

A  N O ,  I D I D N ' T .  Y O U  S E E ,  A T  T H A T  T I M E  I D I D N ' T  DO

I T  B E C A U S E  I  D I D N ' T  H A V E  T H E  S E N I O R I T Y .  I N  F A C T ,

I  W A S N ' T  A  M E M B E R  O F  T H E  U N I O N  T H E N .

Q Y O U  W E R E N ' T  A  M E M B E R  O F  T H E  U N I O N ?

A N O .

Q A N D  Y O U  H A D  T H E  I M P R E S S I O N  O R  U N D E R S T A N D I N G  T H A T

Y O U  H A D  T O  B E  A  M E M B E R  O F  T H E  U N I O N  T O  F I L E  A  

G R I E V A N C E ?

A  W E L L ,  I  D O N ' T  T H I N K  I  H A D  T H A T  I M P R E S S I O N ,  B U T  I 

D I D N ' T  F I L E  O N E .

Q W H E N  D I D  Y O U  B E C O M E  A  M E M B E R ?

A  I D O N ' T  K N O W .  I T  W A S  A P P R O X I M A T E L Y  T H R E E  M O N T H S

A F T E R  T H A T .

Q W A S  T H A T  B E F O R E  O R  A F T E R  Y O U  F I L E D  T H E  G R I E V A N C E  

A G A I N S T  M R .  C O L E M A N ?

A Y O U  M E A N  T H I S  C H A N G E  O F  J O B S ?

Q D I D  Y O U  B E C O M E  A  M E M B E R  O F  T H E  U N I O N  B E F O R E  O R  A F

A  B E F O R E .

Q S O  Y O U  B E C A M E  A  M E M B E R  O F  T H E  U N I O N  B E T W E E N  T H E

T I M E  Y O U  W E R E  S E N T  B A C K  T O  T H E  L A B O R  G A N G  A N D  T H E

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TIME THAT YOU DIDN ’ T GET FOUR HOURS SHOW-UP PAY?

A YES .

Q AND THE ONLY REASON YOU DIDN’ T F I L E  A GRIEVANCE  

BECAUSE OF BEING RETURNED TO THE LABOR GANG WAS 

BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT YOU DIDN’ T HAVE THE RIGHT TO 

OR YOU WEREN'T A MEMBER?

A I DIDN’ T HAVE 90 DAYS OR I WOULD HAVE F I L E D  I T .

Q YOU DIDN’ T HAVE 90 DAYS.  WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

A WELL , YOU S E E ,  YOU HAVE THIS 90-DAY TRAINING PERIOD

I SHOULD SAY,  90 DAYS I N I T I A L  PERIOD.  I DIDN'T  

HAVE THE 90 DAYS,  SO I D IDN’ T F I L E  I T .

Q MAY I TAKE IT  FROM THAT YOU F E L T  YOU DIDN'T  HAVE 

ANY GROUNDS FOR F I L I N G  A GRIEVANCE?

A NO, I D IDN'T  F E E L  THAT WAY. I FE L T  I HAD GROUNDS.

I FE L T  I F  I F I L E D  IT  I WOULD BE F I R E D .

Q YOU FE L T  I F  YOU F I L E D  A GRIEVANCE YOU WOULD BE 

F I R E D ?

A Y E S .

Q WHAT GAVE YOU REASON TO B E L I E V E  THAT?

A I AM SAYING YOU HAVE THIS 90-DAY PERIOD WHERE THE 

COMPANY HAS T H E .S A Y - S O .  I ’ M SURE YOU KNOW WHAT 

I 'M TALKING ABOUT. YOU DON’ T JOIN THE UNION UNTIL  

YOU HAVE ACCUMULATED 90 DAYS.

Q THAT WAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING?

A Y ES .

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Q WHO TOLD YOU THAT OR HOW DID YOU GET THAT UNDER­

STANDING?

A WELL,  I T  IS  MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COMPANY HAS 

THE RIGHT TO KEEP YOU OR TO LET  YOU GO THE F I R S T  

90 DAYS.  THEY HAVE THE SAY-SO AS TO WHETHER YOU 

ARE WORKING OUT OR NOT.

Q THIS IS  IN THE F I R S T  90 DAYS OF YOUR EMPLOYMENT?

A Y E S ,  CHANGING FROM EACH DEPARTMENT. Y E S ,  S I R .  IT

SURE WAS.

Q YOU F E L T  FOR THAT REASON YOU SHOULD NOT F I L E  A

GRIEVANCE OR IT  WOULD NOT DO YOU ANY GOOD TO F I L E  

A GRIEVANCE?

A RIGHT.

MR. WHEAT: PASS THE WITNESS.

RE DIRECT  EXAMINATION 

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q IS IT  YOUR UNDERSTANDING, MR. V I T A L ,  THE F I R S T

90 DAYS WITH THE COMPANY YOU ARE A PROBATIONARY 

EMPLOYEE?

A Y E S .

Q DOES THAT MEAN TO YOUR BEST UNDERSTANDING THAT

ONE, YOU CANNOT BECOME A MEMBER OF THE UNION, AND 

THAT THE UNION DOES NOT HAVE ANY R E S P O N S I B I L I T Y  TO

YOU DURING THAT 90-DAY PERIOD;  IS  THAT SO?
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A Y E S ,  I T  WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY 

R E S P O N S I B I L I T Y  THE F I R S T  90 DAYS.

Q IS  THAT WHY YOU DIDN'T F I L E  A GRIEVANCE?

A YES .

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THER,  YOUR HONOR.

RECROSS EXAMINATION

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Q MR. V I T A L ,  WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING THE COMPANY

COULD HAVE TERMINATED YOUR EMPLOYMENT RATHER THAN 

PUTTING YOU BACK IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A I GUESS THEY COULD HAVE.

MR. BURCH: THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

THE WITNESS:  THAT I S ,  THE

F I R S T  90 DAYS.

THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.  MR.

V I T A L ,  YOU MAY STEP DOWN.

THE COURT: THIS WILL  BE A TERMINATING

POINT IN THE TESTIMONY THIS AFTERNOON. WE WILL RECON­

VENE TOMORROW MORNING AT 1 0 : 0 0  AND RESUME THE TESTIMONY.

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THE COURT: MRS. MC DONALD.

MRS. MC DONALD: P L A I N T I F F  CALLS

NATHANIEL BEAN.

NATHANIEL BEAN,

WITNESS CALLED BY AND IN BEHALF OF THE P L A I N T I F F ,  HAV­

ING BEEN F I R S T  DULY SWORN, WAS EXAMINED AND T E S T I F I E D  

AS FOLLOWS:

DIRECT EXAMINATION 

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, P L E A S E .

A NATHANIEL BEAN.

Q MR. BEAN, WHAT IS YOUR RACE?

A BLACK.

Q AND ARE YOU EMPLOYED BY GOODYEAR AT ITS HOUSTON 

PLANT?

A YES .

Q HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN EMPLOYED?

A TWELVE YEARS NOW.

Q WHEN WERE YOU F I R S T  EMPLOYED?

A IN '57  .

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AND DID YOU WORK CONTINUOUSLY FROM THAT DATE?

A NO , I WAS LAID OFF .

Q I 'M SORRY - -  YOU WERE LAID OFF?

A YES .

Q WHEN DID YOU RETURN TO THE COMPANY?

A I THINK - -  WELL,  IN ' 5 9 .

Q NOW, WERE YOU EMPLOYED I N I T I A L L Y  IN THE LABOR DE­

PARTMENT?

A Y E S .  WELL,  WAREHOUSE - -  Y E S ,  LABOR.

Q WAREHOUSE LABOR?

A Y E S .

Q WHEN YOU RETURNED AFTER THE LAYOFF YOU WERE EM­

PLOYED ALSO IN THE WAREHOUSE LABOR THEN?

A NO .

Q WHAT DEPARTMENT WERE YOU EMPLOYED IN?

A WELL,  LABOR ON THE YARD.

Q YARDMAN?

A YES .

Q HOW LONG DID YOU WORK CONTINUOUSLY IN THE LABOR 

DEPARTMENT AFTER YOU RETURNED IN '5 9 ?

A UP UNTIL TWO YEARS AGO.

Q WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU THEN?

A W E L L , I  WAS TRANSFERRED INTO 1220 ,  WHICH IS STORE­

ROOM CLERK .

Q IS THAT THE R EC E I V IN G  AND STORES DEPARTMENT?

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AND YOU WERE TRANSFERRED THERE IN ABOUT 1969?

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NOW, HOW DID YOU HAPPEN TO BE TRANSFERRED IN 1969?  

WELL,  I WAS HAVING TROUBLE ON THE YARD. MY 

BROTHER,  HE HAD A JOB DEALING WITH HEAVY MACHINERY,  

AND I F E L T  THAT I SHOULD HAVE HAD THE JOB F I R S T  

BECAUSE I HAVE MORE S EN IO RI T Y  THAN HE HAD, SO I 

F I L E D  GRIEVANCE AGAINST THAT.

I F E L T  THAT I WAS MOVED OUT, YOU KNOW.

THE FOREMAN CAME AND ASKED ME DID I WANT TO MOVE 

OUT INTO THE SHIPPING DEPARTMENT.

WHO WAS THE FOREMAN?

DEAN COLEMAN.

AND DID YOU T E L L  HIM YES?

Y E S ,  I TOLD HIM I WOULD.

HAD YOU EVER TAKEN A T E S T ,  MR. BEAN?

Y E S ,  I HAVE.

WHEN DID YOU F I R S T  TAKE THE TE ST ?

OH, I GUESS I T  WAS IN *6 9 ,  I 'M  SURE.

IS THAT THE F I R S T  TIME THE COMPANY OFFERED YOU THE 

TEST TO TAKE?

Y E S ,  I B E L I E V E  I T  WAS.

NOW, HOW FAR DID YOU GET IN SCHOOL?

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AND STORAGE DEPARTMENT ARE THERE WHITE PERSONS 

WHO ARE EMPLOYED?

YES .

IN R ECE IV ING  AND STORES?

YES .

WHO HAVE LESS PLANT SEN IO RI T Y  THAN YOU?

YES , THERE ARE.

BUT ARE ON THE D I V IS IO N  S E N I O R I T Y  L I S T ,  MEANING 

THEY HAVE MORE D I V I S I O N  S E N I O R I T Y ?

SOME, AND I HAVE THREE THAT DON’ T .HAVE .

NOW, HOW MANY WHITES IN THE RE CE IV IN G AND STORES 

DEPARTMENT HAVE GREATER D I V I S I O N  SEN IO RIT Y  THAN 

YOU IN THAT DEPARTMENT BUT LESS  PLANT SE N I O R I T Y ?  

I WOULD SAY E I G H T .

E IGHT?

E IG H T ,  I B E L I E V E .

ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE UNION?

Y E S ,  1 AM.

THE DEFENDANT IN THIS CASE?

YES .

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A MEMBER OF THE UNION?

I WOULD SAY FOR TWELVE YEARS.

HAVE YOU ATTENDED UNION MEETINGS?

Y E S ,  I HAVE.
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Q IN YOUR OPINION HAS THE UNION TREATED BLACK EM­

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THAN WHITE EMPLOYEES?

A I THINK SO.

MR. WHEAT: OBJECT ION.  THAT

CALLS FOR A CONCLUSION.

THE COURT: I WILL  PERMIT THE

ANSWER, IN HIS OPINION.
A I THINK SO.

Q WOULD YOU EXPLAIN TO THE COURT WHAT IS THE BASIS  

FOR THIS PO SI T IO N .

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Q WHICH BUILDING?

A D - l  .

Q WHAT DEPARTMENT IS THAT?

A I T ' S  IN THE LABOR GROUP, WHICH OPERATORS AND LABOR,

YOU KNOW.

Q I T ’ S A COMBINATION, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BUILDINGS?

A Y E S ,  AND IN THAT BUILDING OPERATORS ALWAYS HAVE

CAME DOWN TO P I CK  UP THE CHEMICALS AND TAKE THEM 

UPSTAIRS TO MAKE UP THE CHEMICALS.  THIS PARTICU­

LAR DAY THE ELEVATOR BROKE DOWN AND THE OPERATORS 

WOULDN'T COME DOWN AND PICK UP THE CHEMICALS SO 

THE FOREMAN ASKED THE LABORERS TO CARRY I T  UPSTAIRS  

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L I K E  I T ,  SO THEY CALLED A S P E C I A L  MEETING WITH THE 

UNION.

THEN THEY MET AT AN OLD CHURCH IN THE 

SMITH ADDITION,  AND ONE OF THE LABORERS ASKED MR. 
TEAGUE - -

PAUL TEAGUE?

YES - -  ASKED HIM I F  WE CARRY THE CHEMICAL UPSTAIRS  

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE,  AND HE SAID IN FACT 

NO BLACKS SHOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

I F E L T  I WAS IN THE WRONG PLACE.

WHAT POSITION DID PAUL TEAGUE HAVE WITH THE UNION 

AT THAT TIME?

SAME AS HE HAVE NOW.

NOW, AT ONE TIME DID YOU BELONG TO A D I V I S I O N  OF 

THE UNION THAT WAS COMPOSED OF BLACK PERSONS PRE­

DOMINANTLY ?

NO.

TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE WAS THERE EVER A UNION CALLED  

THE 3**70, AND THE 3**7 AND THEN 3**7A?
YES .

AND WERE YOU A MEMBER OF 3**7C? 

c / Y E S ,  I B E L I E V E  I T  WAS.

YOU DON’ T REMEMBER EXACTLY?

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YOUR HONOR.

THE COURT: I AM A L I T T L E  CON­

FUSED.  WHAT IS  397A,  B AND C? PER­

HAPS I T  WILL  BE CLEARED UP.  I JUST  

RAISED THE POINT SO THAT I T  IS  CLEARED  

UP AT SOME POINT BEFORE THE WITNESS  

L E A V E S .

MRS. MC DONALD: I THINK THE

UNION CAN CLEAR IT  UP.  AT ONE TIME THERE 

WAS A 397 AND A 397A FOR CERTAIN EM­

PLOYEES , DEPENDING UPON THE JOB THEY 

HELD,  AND A 347C FOR CERTAIN EMPLOYEES,  

DEPENDING UPON THE JOB THEY HELD.

THE COURT: ALL RIGHT .  CROSS

EXAMINE,  MR. BURCH.

MR. BURCH: MAY I HAVE A MO­

MENT TO LOOK AT A DOCUMENT OTHER COUNSEL 

HAVE .

THE COURT: YE S .

CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. BURCH:

Q MR. BEAN, L E T ’ S SEE  I F  I UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUM­

STANCES.  HOW LONG WERE YOU LAI D OFF BEFORE YOU

CAME TO WORK IN ' 5 9 ?
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A WELL,  I WAS LAID OFF TWICE AND I HAVE LAID OFF 

A YEAR EACH T IME ,  I ’ M SURE.

Q DO YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU LOST YOUR SENIO RITY  

WITH THE COMPANY BEFORE YOU CAME BACK IN ' 5 9 ?

A WELL,  Y E S ,  I HAD TO. IN A SENSE I LOST T IME ,  Y E S ,  

S I R .

Q ALL RIGHT.  THROUGH NO FAULT OF YOUR OWN, BUT 

WHEN YOU CAME BACK IN 1959 YOU STARTED WITH A 

BRAND NEW COMPANY S E N I O R I T Y ,  DID YOU NOT?

A WELL,  WHAT THEY GAVE ME WAS IN ’ 59 UP TO NOW, Y ES .

Q ALL R IGHT .  NOW, DO YOU REMEMBER IN 1968 BEING

ASKED WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANTED TO TAKE THE TEST  

AND BE CONSIDERED FOR A TRANSFER TO ANOTHER DE­

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TOOK THE TEST UNTIL  MR. COLEMAN ASKED I F  YOU WANTED 

TO TRANSFER?

A Y E S .

Q PO SS IBLY  AS MUCH AS A COUPLE OF YEARS?

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PASSING SCORE?

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Q ALL  RIGHT.

A THAT WAS BEFORE MR. BEAN TOLD ME, TOO.

Q THAT WAS OVER A YEAR BEFORE MR. COLEMAN TOLD YOU

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I TOOK THE T E S T .  I F E E L  IT  WAS ABOUT A YEAR AFTER.  

Q ALL RIGHT .  AND THE SEN IO RI T Y  L I S T S  INDICATE THAT

YOU WENT INTO THE STOREROOM CLERK JOB ON MARCH 4TH 

OF 1970 .  IS THAT ABOUT AS YOU REMEMBER I T ?

A YES .

Q WHEN YOU WENT INTO THAT JOB THERE WERE AT LEAST

TWO OTHER BLACK EMPLOYEES WHO WERE ALREADY IN THAT 

DEPARTMENT, WEREN'T THERE?

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Q MR. M. MURPHY AND MR. OTIS  BAY?

A THAT'S RIGHT.

Q I WANT TO HAND YOU WHAT HAS BEEN I D E N T I F I E D  AS

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A YES , I T  I S .

Q ALL  R IGHT .  DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU TOOK THE

TEST , WERE YOU TOLD THAT YOU HAD SCORED TWO ON THE 

T ES T ?

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Q YOU WERE TOLD THAT YOU HAD NOT PASSED I T ,  IS THAT

RIGHT?

A R IGHT .

Q NOW, JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHATHAPPENED WHEN 

YOU TRANSFERRED OUT, YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD BEEN 

HAVING SOME TROUBLE BECAUSE YOU F E L T  YOUR BROTHER 

HAD BEEN PUT ON THE HEAVIER MACHINERY JOB AND YOU 

SHOULD HAVE HAD I T ,  I S  THAT CORRECT?

A YES .

Q WHY DO YOU F E E L  YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD THE JOB?

A IN A SENSE THEY TRAINED HIM TO OPERATE THE MACHINES

AND I FE L T  L I K E  BY ME HAVING MORE SEN IO RI T Y  THEY 

SHOULD HAVE TRAINED ME F I R S T .

Q WHEN WAS YOUR BROTHER F I R S T  EMPLOYED BY THE COMPANY'

A I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY,  BUT HE SHOULD HAVE ABOUT 

S I X  YEARS NOW.

Q WELL,  WHAT DEPARTMENT IS HE IN TODAY?

A LABOR.

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IS HIS NAME J .  W. BEAN?

RIGHT .

WAS HE HIRED ABOUT 1965?

I B E L I E V E  HE WERE.

AND HE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED TO OPERATE A P I E C E  OF 

HEAVY EQUIPMENT?

RIGHT .

THAT WAS THE JOB THAT WAS FORMERLY PERFORMED BY 

EMPLOYEES IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT, WASN'T I T ?  

RIGHT .

HAVE YOU COMPLAINED TO MR. COLEMAN ABOUT T H I S ?  

Y E S ,  I DID.

MR. COLEMAN UNDERSTOOD PRETTY D E F I N I T E L Y  YOU WERE 

PRETTY UNHAPPY ABOUT THAT?

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I 'M SURE HE WAS.

T E L L  US AS WELL AS YOU REMEMBER WHAT MR. COLEMAN 

SAID TO YOU WHEN HE TOLD YOU ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY

TO TRANSFER?

OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFER? HE CAME TO ME AND I WAS 

OPERATING A TRACTOR AT THE T IME .  HE ASKED ME DID 

I WANT TO DRIVE A TOW MOTOR. I SAID Y E S .

HE S A ID ,  "COME ON AND GO WITH ME ."  I WEN! 

WITH HIM TO THE WAREHOUSE. THAT IS WHERE MR. BOSLEY  

WORKED. HE AND MR. BOSLEY DISCUSSED I T ,  OF ME

TRANSFERRING ONLY,  SO IT  WAS OKAY AS FAR AS I KNOW.
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WAS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU?

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WAS THE WAREHOUSE JOB ONE THAT SAY BEFORE 1962 HAD 

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THE WAREHOUSE?

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FERRED TO.

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NO, ALL WHITE.

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TOW MOTOR JOB?

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ALL R IGHT .  THANK YOU.

MR . BURCH: PASS THE WITNESS.

THE c o u r t : MR. WHEAT.

MR . WHEAT: THANK YOU, YOUR

HONOR.

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BY MR. WHEAT:

Q YOUR NAME IS NATHANIEL BEAN?

A YES .

Q AND WE HAVE HEARD SOME TESTIMONY ABOUT YOUR BROTH­

ER ,  WHO IS J .  W. BEAN.

A YES .

Q IS  THERE ANOTHER MR. BEAN AT THE COMPANY NAMED 

CHARLES BEAN?

A Y E S ,  S I R .

Q ARE YOU RELATED TO HIM?

A THAT IS MY BROTHER.

Q HE IS  ALSO YOUR BROTHER?

A YES .

Q AND IS HE THE CHARLES BEAN WHO IS A STEWARD, AN 

O F F IC E R  OF THE UNION IN THIS CASE?

A AS FAR AS I KNOW.

Q ALL R IGHT .  WHEN DID YOUR BROTHER CHARLES BEAN GO 

TO WORK FOR THE COMPANY?

A NOW, HE 'S  BEEN THERE ABOUT F I V E  YEARS,  I B E L I E V E .

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.

Q HE HASN'T BEEN THERE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE?

A NO.

Q ALL RIGHT.  NOW, MR. BEAN, I AM A L I T T L E  CONFUSED

ABOUT THE GRIEVANCE THAT YOU F I L E D  BECAUSE YOU WERE
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q DID YOU SAY YOU F I L E D  A GRIEVANCE?

A NOT ABOUT MOVING OUT.

Q WHAT DID YOU F I L E  A GRIEVANCE ABOUT?

A WORK AND OVERTIME MY BROTHER WAS GETTING ON THE

MACHINERY.

WHICH BROTHER?

J • W .
AND THE NATURE OF THE GRIEVANCE WAS THAT YOUR 

BROTHER,  J .  W. BEAN - -  

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- -  WAS GETTING SOME WORK THAT YOU FE L T  YOU WERE 

EN TI TLE D  TO?

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ALL RIGHT .  NOW, AT THAT TIME EXACTLY WHAT WORK 

WERE YOU DOING?

JUST COMMON LABOR WORK, WHICH WAS OPERATING THE 

TRACTOR AT THE TIME.

EXACTLY WHAT WAS YOUR BROTHER J .  W. DOING? 

OPERATING HEAD OF MACHINERY,  OVERHEAD CRANE.

WHO DID YOU F I L E  THE GRIEVANCE WITH?

A R.  L .  JOHNSON.

0 WHAT HAPPENED AFTER T HI S?

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Q ALL  R IGHT .  NOW, WHEN WAS IT  THAT MR. TEAGUE TOLD 

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THERE IN THE MEETING.

Q WERE YOU THERE?

A YES , I WAS.

Q WHEN WAS IT  THAT MR. TEAGUE TOLD THE GROUP A BLACK 

SHOULDN'T - -

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THE COURT: THERE IS  SOME

D I F F I C U L T Y .  MR. WHEAT, IN GETTING DOWN

THE TESTIMONY.  I WISH YOU WOULD SLOW

UP YOUR QUESTIONS AND SEPARATE THEM

FROM THE ANSWERS

MR. WHEAT: I 'M SORRY

Q NOW, MR. BEAN, WAS THIS A GENERAL MEMBERSHIP

MEETING?

A I T  WAS A S P E C I A L  MEETING

Q MR. BEAN

A IT  WAS AN ALL-DLACK MEETING

Q WOULD YOU HOLD YOUR ANSWER UNTIL I F I N I S H  THE QUES­

TION SO THE REPORTER CAN GET IT

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NO, I WOULDN'T SAY SO.

WHAT KIND OF A MEETING WAS I T ?

I T  WAS - -  THE GUYS,  ALL BLACK,  ASKED FOR A S P E C I A L  

MEETING AND THEY MET IN THE CHURCH. THE ONLY WHIljE 

THAT WAS THERE WAS MR. TEAGUE AND THE OTHER FELLOW.

THIS OTHER GUY, HE GOT UP AND ASKED,  SAY 

I F  WE TOOK THE CHEMICAL UP WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO 

OPERATE.  HE DIDN'T  GET UP,  BUT HE SAID HE D IDN'T  

THINK THAT ANY BLACKS SHOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

THAT IS WHAT MR. TEAGUE SAID?

THAT IS WHAT HE SAYS.

ARE THOSE THE WORDS THAT HE USED?

AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT'S THE WORDS HE USED.

WERE YOU THERE AND L I S T E N I N G ?

RIGHT THERE.

YOU'RE TELL ING US EXACTLY WHAT YOU HEARD?

NO, I WAS THERE.  THAT IS WHY I QUIT GOING.

I 'M ASKING YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE TELL ING US 

I F  YOU HEARD THIS WITH YOUR OWN EARS AND YOU WERE 

PRESENT AT THE MEETING?

THAT’ S RIGHT .

what  WORDS DID MR. TEAGUE USE?

WHAT WORDS DID HE USE? HE SAID HE D IDN ’ T THINK 

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ARE YOU REAL SURE HE USED THE WORD "BLACK"?

ANY NEGRO - -  I ’ M SORRY.  HE SAID ANY NEGRO SHOULDN’ T 

BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

HE SAID HE DIDN’ T THINK ANY NEGRO SHOULD BE ABLE  

TO OPERATE THE MACHINE?

HE DIDN'T  SAY MACHINE,  JUST OPERATE.

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THE WORD NEGRO?

I AM SURE.

YOU ARE P O S I T I V E  HE SAID NEGRO?

I AM SURE.

ARE YOU SURE HE D IDN’ T SAY LABORER OR LABOR DEPART­

MENT?

HE D IDN’ T SAY THAT.

Q MR. BEAN, FROM TIME TO TIME THERE ARE D IFFERENCES  

BETWEEN THE COMPANY AND THE UNION AS TO WHICH EM­

PLOYEES AND IN WHICH DEPARTMENT SHOULD DO PARTICUL  

WORK. YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, AREN'T YOU?

A Y E S .

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PUTES OR DISPUTES OVER THE ASSIGNMENT OF WORK?

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Q I S N ' T  THAT TRUE? AND SOMETIMES IT  MIGHT INVOLVE  

WHETHER OR NOT THE EMPLOYEES IN THE PRODUCTION 

DEPARTMENT OR THE EMPLOYEES IN SOME OTHER DE­

PARTMENT MIGHT DO A PARTICULAR TYPE OF WORK. WERE 

YOU WORKING FOR THE COMPANY?

A Y E S ,  I WAS.

Q IN 1967 IN THE SPRING?

A IN ' 6 7 ,  SURE.

Q DO YOU REMEMBER A GRIEVANCE THAT WAS F I L E D  BY THE 

UNION WHEREIN THE UNION WAS ATTEMPTING TO FORCE 

THE COMPANY TO ASSIGN SOME PARTICULAR WORK TO THE 

LABORER FOR THE LABOR DEPARTMENT RATHER THAN TO 

THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT?

A NO, I DON'T REMEMBER.

Q DO YOU REMEMBER THAT CASE?

A NO, I DON'T.

Q DO YOU REMEMBER A PROBLEM ABOUT THE ASSEMBLING OF 

SOME WOODEN BOXES IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME?

A YES .

Q DO YOU REMEMBER THE PROBLEM?

A I WAS IN THERE . '

Q ALL RIGHT.  ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE FACT THAT

THERE WAS A GRIEVANCE F I L E D  OVER THE WOODEN BOXES,  

THE WORK OF THE WOODEN BOXES?

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A CONTINENTAL? YES , S I R .

Q DOES THAT REFRESH YOUR MEMORY?

A THEY HAVE THEM, BUT AS FAR AS THE OTHER DEAL I 

DON• T REMEMBER ANY OF I T .

Q ALL RIGHT.  MR. BEAN, YOU DON’ T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE 

THEN OF THE CASE THAT WAS CARRIED TO ARBITRATION  

OVER WHETHER OR NOT THE LABORERS SHOULD GET THAT 

WORK?

A NO, I CAN'T REMEMBER BACK THEN.

Q MR. BEAN, I S N ' T  IT  TRUE THAT IN THE MEETING THAT

YOU HAVE TOLD US ABOUT WHEREIN MR. TEAGUE USED THE 

WORD "BLACK" OR I B E L I E V E  YOU SAID NEGRO?

A NEGRO.

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PLOYEES IN THE LABOR DEPARTMENT OR THE EMPLOYEES IN 

ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WOULD DO THAT PARTICULAR WORK, 

I S N ' T  THAT TRUE?

A SAY THAT AGAIN.  I D IDN'T  UNDERSTAND.

Q I S N ’ T IT TRUE THAT IN THE MEETING THAT YOU HAVE

TOLD US ABOUT THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE 

LABOR DEPARTMENT WOULD DO THIS WORK OR WHETHER OR 

NOT SOME OTHER DEPARTMENT WOULD DO I T ?

A FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THEN I T ' S  NEARLY THE SAME

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F E L T  L I K E  I WAS IN THE WRONG P L A C E .

MR. B E A N , ARE YOU T E L L I N G  US UNDER OATH WHAT WAS 

UNDER D I S C U S S I O N  AT THAT M E E T I N G  WAS WHETHER OR 

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WORK;  I S  THAT YOUR T E S T I M O N Y ?

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SAME ABOUT WHAT HE HAD S A I D  T H E R E .  THAT I S  THE  

REASON WHY I Q U I T  GOING TO THE M E E T I N G S .  SO THAT  

WAS MY ANSWER R I G H T  T H E R E .

A L L  R I G H T .  NOW, YOU S T A T E  THAT THE UNION H A S N ' T  

T R E A T E D  B LA C K S  AS W E L L  AS W H I T E S .  CAN YOU G I V E  US 

AN EXAMPLE  OF WHAT YOU B A S E  THAT ON?

NO, J U S T  MY B E L I E F  ON WHAT I HAVE S E E N .  THAT I S  

THE REASON I GWE THAT ANSWER.

CAN YOU T E L L  US ABOUT ANYTHING YOU HAVE S E E N ?

W E L L ,  L I K E  MY A G RE E M E N T ,  WHATNOT,  AS FAR AS I AM 

CONCERNED THEY D I D N ' T  DO ANYTHI NG ABOUT I T .

WHICH ONE WAS THAT?

THE O V E R T I M E  MY BROTHER WAS P U T T I N G  IN ON THE  

OVERHEAD C RA N E .

YOU F E E L  THE UNION WAS D I S C R I M I N A T I N G  A G A I N S T  YOU

IN FAVOR OF YOUR B ROT HE R?

NOT D I R E C T L Y .  I F E L T  T H E R E  WAS SOME S U P E R V I S O R ' S

F A U L T .

THE COURT :  T H E R E  WAS F A U L T ?

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WAS WITHIN THE SUPERVISORS ,  THE REASON 

WHY I DIDN'T  GET THE OVERTIME.

Q THE EXAMPLE YOU GI VE  US,  THEY WERE TRAINING YOUR 

BROTHER TO DO SOMETHING AND DIDN'T  TRAIN YOU TO 

DO I T .

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Q YOU F E E L  THAT IS RACIAL  DISCRIMINATION?

A NO, I WOULDN'T SAY SO, BUT I FE L T  L I K E  THE UNION 

SHOULD HAVE DID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

Q AND THAT IS WHAT YOU BASE YOUR TESTIMONY ON OR

YOUR OPINION ON, THAT THE UNION DIDN’ T DO AS MUCH 

FOR THE BLACKS AS THEY DID FOR THE WHITES?

A WELL,  YE S .

MR. WHEAT: THANK YOU, S I R .

I PASS THE WITNESS.

THE COURT: MRS. MC DONALD.

R E D I R E C T  E X A M I N A T I O N

B Y  M R S .  MC D O N A L D :

Q M R .  B E A N ,  M R .  C O L E M A N  WHO I S  T H E  S U P E R V I S O R  I N  T H E  

L A B O R  D E P A R T M E N T  - -

A R I G H T .

Q - -  HOW D O E S  H E  A S S I G N  J O B S  W I T H I N  T H E  L A B O R  D E P A R T ­

M E N T ?  I N  O T H E R  W O R D S ,  T H E R E  A R E  A  N U M B E R  O F  D U T I E S

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WITHIN A PARTICULAR LABOR CATEGORY AND SOME ARE 

DIFFERENT  D U T I E S ,  SOME ARE IN S ID E  AND SOME ARE 

OUTSIDE .

RIGHT.

HOW DOES MR. COLEMAN ASSIGN PERSONS TO THOSE JOBS 

DURING THE TIME THAT YOU WERE IN THE LABOR DEPART­

MENT?

MR. BURCH: YOUR HONOR, I

WOULD L I K E  TO OBJECT JUST TO PRESERVE  

THE RECORD HERE.  WE ARE NOW TALKING ABOU 

A GROUP WITHIN WHICH I DON'T THINK THERE 

I S  ANY CLAIM OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION  

AND WE HAVE SPENT A GOOD B I T  OF TIME 

TALKING ABOUT JU R IS D I C T I O N A L  D IS PU T ES .

I THINK THE QUESTION OF HOW JOBS ARE AS­

SIGNED AMONG LABORERS IS IRRELEVANT TO 

THE LAWSUIT.

THE COURT: LET ME SAY T H I S :

THERE IS NO WAY THE COURT CAN KNOW FROM 

READING YOUR MEMORANDUM AND FROM L I S T E N ­

ING TO THE TESTIMONY AS TO THE P R E C I S E  

SCOPE OF INQUIRY THAT OUGHT TO BE 

PROPER IN THIS LAWSUIT.  THE COURT HAS 

TO RELY TO A GREAT EXTENT ON THE ATTOR­

NEYS.  I HAVE GIVEN YOU CONSIDERABLE

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LATITUDE TO DEVELOP THE S U I T ,  BUT I 

WOULD ASK YOU NOT GO DOWN AVENUES OF 

INQUIRY THAT DON'T BEAR UPON THE ISSUES  

IN THE S U I T .  I F  I T  DOES BEAR UPON I T ,  

MRS. MC DONALD, I WILL  PERMIT YOU TO 

PURSUE THE L IN E  OF INQUIRY.  I F  HIS OB­

JE CT IO N  IS A VALID ONE, I ASK YOU MOVE 

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COLEMAN ASSIGNED JOBS BASED ON A PERSON'S PLANT 

S E N I O R I T Y .

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Q NOW, THIS MEETING THAT YOU REFER TO WHERE MR.

TEAGUE WAS PRESENT,  WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING 

TO COMPLAIN TO THE UNION ABOUT THE FACT THAT LABOR­

ERS WERE DOING WHAT THEY FE L T  WERE A PART OF 

OPERATOR'S JOBS?

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Q DID THE MEN SAY THAT NIGHT I F  THEY WERE GOING TO

DO A PART OF THE IR  JOB THEY SHOULD BE C L A S S I F I E D  

AS OPERATORS;  IS THAT WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR?

A WELL - -

MR. WHEAT: OBJECTION AS TO THE

LEADING NATURE OF THE QUESTION.

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Q IN YEARS GONE BY,  MR. BEAN, S P E C I F I C A L L Y  IN 1959,  

DID YOU REFER TO YOURSELF AS A BLACK OR AS A NEGRO 

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A NEGRO AT THAT T IME .

MRS. MC DONALD: NO FURTHER

QUESTIONS,  YOUR HONOR.

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TIONS OF THIS WITNESS

MR. BURCH: NO, YOUR HONOR.

THE c o u r t : ALL RIGHT.  YOU

MAY STEP DOWN, MR. BEAN.

THE COURT: CALL YOUR NEXT WITNESS.

MRS. MC DONALD: CHARLES H. B FAN.

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CHARLES H. BEAN,

WITNESS CALLED BY AND IN BEHALF OF P L A I N T I F F ,  HAVING 

BEEN F I R S T  DULY SWORN, WAS EXAMINED AND T E S T I F I E D  AS 

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DIRECT  EXAMINATION 

BY MRS. MC DONALD:

Q WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, PL EA S E .

A CHARLES BEAN.

Q MR. BEAN, WHAT IS YOUR RACE?

A BLACK.

Q MR. BEAN, ARE YOU EMPLOYED WITH GOODYEAR AT ITS

HOUSTON PLANT?

A YES .

Q WHEN WERE YOU F I R S T  EMPLOYED?

A 2 - 9 - 6 6 .

Q WERE YOU EMPLOYED I N I T I A L L Y  IN THE PRODUCTION DE­

PARTMENT?

A YES .

Q AND TO WHAT JOB C L A S S I F I C A T I O N ?

A BALER HELPER .

Q ARE YOU A STEWARD WITH THE UNION?

A Y E S ,  I AM RIGHT NOW.

Q HOW FAR DID YOU GET IN SCHOOL, MR. BEAN?

A COMPLETED TWELFTH GRADE.
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DO YOU HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA?

YES .

NOW, WHEN YOU A PPL IE D  FOR A JOB WITH THE COMPANY 

DID YOU TAKE THE T E S T S ?

YES .

AND WERE YOU ADVISED OF THE RESULTS OF THE T E S T S ?  

YES .

WHAT WERE YOU TOLD?

WELL,  I TOOK THE TESTS TWICE.  I TOOK THE TEST  

F I R S T ,  I B E L I E V E ,  IN *64 OR *6 5 .  ' 6 5 ,  I B E L I E V E .

THEY SAID I FA I L E D  THE T E S T .  THEN I TOOK IT  AGAIN 

IN THE EARLY PART OF ' 6 6 ,  AND MR. BOSLEY SAID I 

PASSED.

NOW, MR. BEAN, DO YOU HOLD A POSITION WITH A COM­

MITTEE AT GOODYEAR?

YES .

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THIS COMMITTEE?

IT  IS  EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE FOR 

MINORITY GROUP, B I - R A C I A L  COMMITTEE.

WHEN WAS THIS COMMITTEE FORMED?

AFTER SEPTEMBER,  RIGHT AFTER THE S T R I K E .  MR. VAN 

OS DAL L SAY IT  WAS OKAY FOR US TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE 

RIGHT AFTER THE S T R I K E .

WHAT POSITION DO YOU HOLD WITH THE COMMITTEE?  

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Q NOW, WHEN WAS THE COMMITTEE F I R S T  FORMED?

A YOU MEAN WHEN DID WE START GETTING I T  TOGETHER?

Q RIGHT.

A I ' L L  SAY AROUND A P R I L  OF MAY.

Q OF THIS YEAR ,  1971?

A YES .

Q AND WHEN DID THE COMMITTEE BEGIN TO HAVE MEETINGS,  

I F  THEY HAVE HAD ANY WITH THE COMPANY?

A WELL,  L E T ' S  S E E ,  IT  WAS BEFORE THE S T R I K E ,  SO I 

WILL SAY THE S T R I K E  WAS AUGUST,  SO I ' L L  SAY JUNE 

MAYBE. I THINK MAYBE JUNE,  TWO OR THREE MEETINGS  

WITH THE COMPANY BEFORE WE GOT THE COMMITTEE.

Q NOW, HAD YOU OR ANOTHER O F F I C I A L  OF THE B I - R A C I A L  

COMMITTEE CONTACTED AN O F F I C I A L  OF THE COMPANY 

PRIOR TO JUNE OF 1971?

A ABOUT THE COMMITTEE?

Q YES .

A NONE OTHER THAN TELEPHONE C A LL S .

Q YOU T E S T I F I E D  E A R L I E R  THAT MR. VAN OSDALL HAD LET  

THE COMMITTEE BE FORMED.

A Y E S .

Q WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

A HE PUT IN WRITTEN FORM TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE,  PRO­

POSAL TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE.

Q WHY WAS THE B I - R A C I A L  COMMITTEE FORMED?

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A BECAUSE THE MINORITY FELT  WE WEREN'T BEING R EPR E­

SENTED BY THE UNION AND WE WANTED TO HAVE A VOICE  

TO SPEAK WITH THE COMPANY IN ORDER TO MAYBE DO 

AWAY WITH UNNECESSARY COMPLAINTS THAT GO TO THE 

EQUAL EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION, TO THRASH OUT THE KIND 

OF RUMORS THAT E X I S T  IN THE PLANT ABOUT THE MIN0RI7  

GROUPS, BAS ICA LL Y  JUST TO REPRESENT THE MINORITY  

GROUPS.

Q HOW MANY PERSONS ARE ON THIS B I - R A C I A L  COMMITTEE?

A AT THE PRESENT,  F I V E .

Q NOW, YOU HAVE T E S T I F I E D  THAT ONE PURPOSE OF THE

FORMATION OF THE COMMITTEE WAS TO GET REPRESENTA­

TION FOR M IN O R IT IE S  BECAUSE YOU F E L T  THE UNION WAS 

NOT REPRESENTING THEM.

A Y E S .

Q COULD YOU GIVE  THE COURT SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS 

THAT THE UNION FAI LED  TO DO THAT YOU AS CHAIRMAN 

OF THE COMMITTEE F E L T  WAS BECAUSE OF THE RACE OF 

THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED?

A YOU MEAN THE THINGS - -  I THINK THE UNION F A I L E D  TO 

PROPERLY HANDLE THE GRIEVANCE PROCEDURES.  I THINK 

IN SOME CASES THEY WEREN'T PROCESSED.  I THINK THAT 

THE UNION DIDN'T  BARGAIN C O L L E C T I V E L Y .  I THINK THA 

IS  PART OF THE UNION'S POWER, TO BARGAIN CO LL EC T ­

I V E L Y  RATHER THAN GOING IN WITH THE GRIEVANCE AND

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SUBMITTING IT  TO THE COMPANY AND THEN THE COMPANY 

OUST MAKE AN ANSWER. I THINK THEY SHOULD BARGAIN 

ON I T ,  USE THE IR  BARGAINING POWERS IN ORDER TO 

COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS FUNCTIONAL FOR THE 

GRIEVANCE.  I THINK THAT IS THE BASE OF THE THING.

Q WHEN YOU WERE CALLING S P E C I F I C  EXAMPLES WHERE THE 

UNION F A I L E D  TO PROCESS GRIEVANCES FOR MINORITIES  

YOU F E L T  SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROCESSED?

A YOU MEAN ACTUALLY A GRIEVANCE THAT WAS GIVEN TO

THE UNION AND NOT BEING PROCESSED TO WHERE I FEL T  

I T  WAS RIGHT?

Q WELL,  THAT AND ANYTHING E L S E  THAT THE UNION HAS

DONE WITH RESPECT TO FAILUR E  TO GRIEVE FOR MINORI­

TY EMPLOYEES.

A Y E S .  I F I L E D  ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT WAS CONCERNING 

THE BUMP RIGHT.

THE COURT: WHAT WAS THAT?

THE WITNESS:  THAT WAS CONCERNI

A BUMP RIGHT.

Q B-U-M-P?

A YES .

Q WHAT IS A BUMP RIGHT?

A WELL,  THIS IS WHERE YOUR SE N IO RI T Y  COME IN,  AND

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THIS GUY WAS DISQU ALI FY ING  

HIS S E L F  OFTEN THIS PARTICULAR JOB,  E ITHER  WAS

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D I S Q U A L I F Y I N G  H I M S E L F  O R  T H E  C O M P A N Y  W A S  D I S ­

Q U A L I F Y I N G  H I M  B E C A U S E  O F  A  B A C K  I N J U R Y .

I  T H I N K  A C C O R D I N G  T O  T H E  C O N T R A C T S  O R  

T H E  A G R E E M E N T  I F  A  P E R S O N  D I S Q U A L I F I E S  T H E M S E L V E S  

T H E Y  H A V E  T O  G O  I N T O  T H E  J O B  T H E Y  H A D  P R E V I O U S L Y  

B E F O R E  T H E Y  G O  I N T O  T H E  J O B  T H E Y  A R E  D I S Q U A L I F I E D  

F R O M .  I N  T H I S  P A R T I C U L A R  C A S E  T H E  G U Y  W A N T E D  T O  

E X E R C I S E  S E N I O R I T Y  ON M E .  MY G R I E V A N C E  W A S  T H I S  

G U Y  D I D N ' T  W O R K  T H I S  C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  B E F O R E  H E  

W E N T  I N  T H E  C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  T H A T  H E  W A S  B E I N G  D I S ­

Q U A L I F I E D  O R  D I S Q U A L I F Y I N G  H I M S E L F  F R O M ,  S O  T H E  

A N S W E R ,  I S U B M I T  T H E  G R I E V A N C E  T O  A  U N I O N  A N D  I 

T H I N K  I  S U B M I T T E D  O N E  T O  T H E  U N I O N  A N D  O N E  T O  T H E  

C O M P A N Y .  T H E  A N S W E R  T O  T H E  G R I E V A N C E  W A S  T H A T  

T H I S  W A S  W R O N G  A N D  T H A T  H E  H A D  S O M E  O T H E R  I N F O R M A ­

T I O N  ON T H E  G R I E V A N C E ,  S A Y I N G  T H A T  T H I S  W A S  R I G H T  

B Y  T H E  G U Y  H A V I N G  T H E  R I G H T  T O  B U M P  M E ,  B U T  I  

K NO W I T  W A S  W R O N G  A N D  T H E  G R I E V A N C E  W A S  R E A L L Y  D E ­

N I E D .

H O W E V E R ,  I K E P T  T H E  J O B  T H A T  I  H A D  B E ­

C A U S E  T H E  G U Y  A T  T H A T  T I M E  - -  A N O T H E R  J O B  P O P P E D  

U P  ON T H E  B O A R D  A N D  H E  T O O K  T H A T  J O B  R A T H E R  T H A N  

B U M P I N G  M E ,  B U T  T H E  G R I E V A N C E  W A S  D E N I E D .

I N  O B S E R V A T I O N  I N  O T H E R  C A S E S  A M O N G  

M I N O R I T Y  G R O U P S  I N E V E R  F E L T  L I K E  T H E  U N I O N

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REPRESENTED THE MINORITY GROUPS.

Q WHAT OTHER CASES CAN YOU RECALL?

A AS FAR AS ACTUAL GRIEVANCES .  L E T ' S  S E E ,  I T ' S  KIND 

OF HARD RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE ARE OTHER CASES L I K E  

THE BURNETT CA SE ,  CHARLES SMITH CASE.  THERE IS A 

NUMBER OF CASES .

Q WHAT IS THE CHARLES SMITH CASE?

A CHARLES SMITH WAS A LABORER AND THIS STATEMENT THAT

HE MADE TO ME, CHARLES SMITH WAS A LABORER AND HE 

WAS F IR ED  AND THEY HAD A HEARING.  THE UNION AND 

COMPANY HAD A HEARING ON HIS D ISMISSAL  AND SOMEHOW 

THEY AGREED THAT HE BE REINSTATED BACK ON THE 

JOB BUT WITH LOSS OF HIS S E N I O R I T Y .  CHARLES SMITH 

HAD OFF HIS 90-DAY PROBATION PERIOD.  HE PASSED 

THE 90 DAYS' PROBATION.

Q WAS HE ACTUALLY F I R E D ?

A TO THE BEST OF MY UNDERSTANDING I GUESS HE WAS.

Q WHAT IS THE RACE OF CHARLES SMITH?

A BLACK.

Q NOW, WHAT IS THE BURNETT INCIDENT YOU MENTIONED?

A BURNETT WAS GIVEN TIME OFF TWO SEPARATE T IMES ,

D I S C IP L I N A R Y  ACTION FOR EXCESS AMOUNT OF ABSENTEE­

ISM AND TARDINESS AND NOT PROPERLY CALLING IN.

Q WHAT DID THE UNION DO ABOUT T H I S ?

A WELL,  TO THE BEST I COULD S E E ,  NOTHING.
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DO YOU KNOW WHITE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN OFF?

A YES .

Q AND HAVE F A I L E D  TO CALL  IN L I KE  MR. BURNETT AND HAVE

NOT BEEN SUSPENDED?

A WELL

M R . BURCH:  THIS IS LEADI NG,

YOUR HONOR.

THE COURT:  Y E S ,  I SUSTAIN

THE O B J E C T I ON.

Q WHY DO YOU F E E L  THE UNION F A I L E D  TO REPRESENT

BLACKS FAI RL Y  WITH RESPECT TO THE BURNETT I N C I ­

DENT?

A FROM MY POINTS OF OBSERVING THE DECI SI ON THAT MR.

VAN OSDALL WANTS TO MAKE,  OR THE DECI SI ON HE MAKES 

SEEMS TO BE L I T T L E  OR NO OPPOSI TI ON AT AL L  AS 

FAR AS BARGAINING.

Q DID YOU KNOW MR. HOBSON?

A YES .

Q WHAT IS HIS RACE?

A HE IS BLACK.

Q HAS THE UNION EVER REPRESENTED MR. HOBSON IN ANY 

INCIDENT?

A HE HAS A GRIEVANCE F I L E D  NOW. IF I REMEMBER RI GHT,  

BEFORE I L E F T  WORK IT S T I L L  WASN’ T ANSWERED.  IT 

WAS ABOUT RE C E I VI NG TIME OFF FOR A PLUG-UP IN THIS

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DRYING MACHINE,  AND I THINK THE COMPANY GIVE  HIM 

ONE DAY OFF AND NEVER BEFORE HAVE I WITNESSED THE 

COMPANY GIVING THE TIME OFF FOR A PLUG-UP.

THE COURT: TIME OFF FOR A

WHAT?

THE WITNESS:  PLUG-UP,  THIS

RUBBER THAT WE REPRODUCED. I T  QUITS GOINS  

AND STACKS UP. WE CALL IT  A PLUG-UP.

WHAT DID THE UNION DO ABOUT THIS INCIDENT?

NOTHING. HIS GRIEVANCE HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERED.

WHEN DID THIS TAKE PLACE?

SHORTLY AFTER THE S T R I K E .  I GUESS IT  MUST HAVE

BEEN IN SEPTEMBER.

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN SUSPENDED OR GIVEN TIME OFF?

YES .

FOR WHAT REASON WERE YOU GIVEN TIME OFF?

WELL,  IT  WAS SHORTLY AFTER I WENT TO WORK FOR GOOD­

YEAR.  I THINK IT  WAS IN »67.  AT THAT TIME IT  WAS

IN THE SUMMERTIME AND THE COMPANY WERE EMPLOYING 

SCHOOL BOYS TO HELP THEM OUT AND THERE WAS THIS  

GUY BY THE NAME OF BURNS, AND HE WAS A SCHOOL BOY.  

ONE NIGHT HE WAS A BREAKERMAN, WHICH IS A MAN THAT 

R E L I E V E S  OTHER MEN FOR THEIR BREAK,  LUNCH AND SMOKE 

PERIODS.  WELL,  BURNS WAS BREAKING ME THIS PARTICU­

LAR NIGHT AND WE DIDN'T  GET WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A

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PROPER BREAK,  WHICH IS TWO BLACKS WORKING ON THE 

CA RRI ER ,  AND A CARRIER IS  THE POINT WHERE THEY 

C E R T I F Y  RUBBER.  I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T THINK IT  WAS 

RIGHT.

I SAY I ' L L  BE EXTRA MAN TOMORROW NIGHT 

AND THE NEXT NIGHT TRUTHFULLY I FORGET ABOUT I T ,

BUT I CAME OUT TO BE THE EXTRA MAN, AND THE SUPER­

VISOR HAD ME WORKING PRETTY BUSY.  THE SUPERVISOR  

COULD V E R I F Y  I T  I F  HE'D T E L L  THE TRUTH. SO WHEN A 

BREAKTIME COME WE HAD JUST GOT A NEW CONTRACT AND 

WE HAD TWO LUNCH PERIODS ,  TIME FOR THE THIRD S H I F T .  

I D IDN'T  KNOW THIS BECAUSE IT  WAS JUST PUT IN THE 

CONTRACT. SO I G IV E  BURNS THE F I R S T  BREAK AND 

TOLD HIM TO TAKE HIS BREAK.  I D IDN’ T T E L L  HIM 

HOW MUCH.

AFTER ABOUT TEN MINUTES HAD PASSED,  THIS  

WAS AROUND 1 0 : 0 0 ,  AND OVERTIME LUNCHES COME IN 

WHICH WAS NEW TO ME, AND I ASKED ANOTHER GUY TO 

GO TO THE SMOKER AND GET BURNS. WELL,  BURNS THOUGH 

I WAS PAYING HIM BACK THEN SO HE WAS GETTING KIND 

OF UPSET.

THEN I COME BACK AFTER I BROKE THE OVER­

TIME MAN, G IVE  BURNS HIS BREAK TEN MORE MINUTES,

SO IT  MADE IT  A TWENTY-MINUTE BREAK.  AFTER I TOOK 

MY BREAK THE SUPERVISOR PUT ME BACK TO WORK AND

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THEN LATER ON THERE WAS ANOTHER LUNCH BREAK,  3 : 3 0  

OR 4 : 0 0 .

BURNS S A I D ,  "HEY ,  MAN, WHAT TIME AM I 

GOING TO GET MY BREAK?" THE SUPERVISOR TOLD ME 

ABOUT THE THREE LUNCH. I SA I D ,  " 4 : 0 0 " ,  AND HE 

THOUGHT I WAS REALLY GETTING HIM THEN.

HE JERKED THIS RAMP UP AND UP,  AND 

SOCKED ME ALONG THERE.

THIS IS MR. BURNS?

YES .

WHAT IS THE RACE OF MR. BURNS?

HE 'S  WHITE.

WHAT HAPPENED?

THE SUPERVISOR WAS STANDING AS CLOSE AS I AM TO 

THIS LADY HERE .  I GRABBED HIM AROUND THE SHOULDERS 

HERE.  THE SUPERVISOR SAY,  "BREAK IT  UP,  BREAK IT  

UP. "

WELL,  HE TOOK US IN THE O F F I C E  AND SAI D ,  

" I  WANT YOU TO DO BETTER THAN T H I S . "  I S A I D ,  "NO,

I DON'T THINK I T ' S  R IGHT .  A GUY WITH THIS TYPE  

ATTITUDE I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT 

I T .  "

SO THEN THE SUPERVISOR CALLS THE OTHER 

SUPERVISOR,  THE S H I FT  FOREMAN, OVER TO THE O F F I C E ,

AND THE S H I FT  FOREMAN COMES OVER AND TE LL S  ME THAT
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I AM F I R E D .
HE SAY,  " I F  YOU GET YOUR JOB BACK ‘ 

YOU'D BETTER COME BACK WITH A D IFFERENT  A T T I T U D E . "

I ASKED WHAT DID I DO. HE S A I D ,  " I F  YOU GET YOUR 

JOB BACK YOU BETTER COME BACK HERE WITH A DIFFERENT  

ATT I T U D E . "

SO HE ASKED US TO COME IN AND SEE  

MR. VAN OSDALL THE NEXT MORNING. I JUST DECIDED  

S INCE I AM F I R E D  I 'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET A L I T T L E  

CUT AT HIM ON THE OUTS IDE .  SO WHEN THE GUY COME 

OUT THE GATE I STARTED APPROACHING HIM.

HE SA I D ,  "WAIT A MINUTE,  BEAN."

HE SAI D ,  " I T ' S  DOING SOMETHING WRONG."

SO WE JUST MADE IT  UP. HE SA ID ,  

" I ' L L  COME BACK IN THE MORNING AND T E L L  IT L I K E  

I T  WAS."

THE NEXT MORNING WE TALKED TO MR.

VAN OSDALL AND HE SET IT  OFF TO A FOLLOWING MON­

DAY, AND IN THIS HEARING THAT THE COMPANY HAD FOR 

US MR. VAN OSDALL ASKED THE BURNS BOY AND MYSELF

TO T E L L  THE STORY,  AND THE BOY TOLD IT  JUST L I K E  

I T  WAS, THE WHOLE TRUTH.

Q WAS THE UNION REPRESENTATIVE  PRESENT AT THE HEARING 

A YES .

Q WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THIS HEARING?

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A  I G O T  T WO W E E K S  O F F  F R O M  W O R K .

Q W H A T  H A P P E N E D  T O  M R .  B U R N S ?

A  A S  F A R  A S  I  K N O W  H E  G O T  T W O  W E E K S  O F F .

Q M R .  B U R N S  W A S  A  S U M M E R  E M P L O Y E E ?

A  A  S C H O O L  B O Y .

Q HOW L O N G  H A D  Y O U  B E E N  W O R K I N G  A T  T H I S  T I M E ?

A  A B O U T  A Y E A R .

Q W H A T  D I D  T H E  U N I O N  DO T O  Y O U  D U R I N G  T H I S  M E E T I N G ?

A N O T H I N G .

Q D I D  T H E  U N I O N  S A Y  A N Y T H I N G  I N  Y O U R  B E H A L F ,  A N D  I F  

S O ,  W H A T  W A S  S A I D ?

A  N O T  T H A T  I  C A N  R E M E M B E R .  I  R E M E M B E R  V A N  O S  D A L  L  

A N D  M R .  J A C K  E .  V A U G H A N  L E A V I N G  T H E  C O N F E R E N C E  

R O O M ,  I G U E S S ,  T O  D I S C U S S  T H E  C A S E .  W H E N  M R .

V A N  O S  D A L  L  C O M E S  B A C K  H E  S A Y ,  " T A K E  TWO W E E K S  

O F F  F R O M  W O R K  A N D  C O N S I D E R  Y O U R S E L F  F I R E D . "

Q A N D  C O N S I D E R  Y O U R S E L F  F I R E D ?

A  O R  C O N S I D E R  Y O U R S E L F  F I R E D .

Q N O W ,  W H E N  Y O U  F I R S T  W E R E  E M P L O Y E D  Y O U  C A M E  I N  A S  

A  B A L E R  H E L P E R ,  I S  T H A T  R I G H T ?

A  I D I D N ' T  U N D E R S T A N D  Y O U .

Q D I D  Y O U  C O M E  I N  A S  A  B A L E R  H E L P E R  W H E N  Y O U  W E R E  

F I R S T  E M P L O Y E D ?

A Y E S  .

Q G E N E R A L L Y  W H A T  D O E S  A  B A L E R  H E L P E R  D O ?

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A HE HAS TO - -  I G UES S  T H E R E ’ S TWO C L A S S E S  OF

B A L E R  H E L P E R S .  YOU HAVE A C E R T I F I E R ,  WHICH COME 

UNDER M I S C E L L A N E O U S ,  AND YOU HAVE A REGUL AR S A C K E R j  

BOX RUBB ER  AND SACK R U B B E R ,  THAT WORKS ON THE END 

OF THE F I N I S H I N G  L I N E .  H I S  JOB I S  TO BOX I T  AND 

SACK I T .  THE C E R T I F I E R  I S  TO TAKE THE CONTAMI NAT I Of 

OUT OF THE R U B B E R .

Q WHICH OF T H E S E  TWO, THE S A C K E R  OR THE C E R T I F I E R  

S T E N C I L S ?

A THE S A C K E R  D O E S N ' T  S T E N C I L .  ON C E R T A I N  T Y P E  

RUBBER THEY MIGHT - -  I T ' S  SELDOM A S A C K E R  MAY 

S T E N C I L ,  BUT V E R Y  SELDOM DOES I T  H AP PEN .

Q WHEN A B A L E R  H E L P E R  C E R T I F I E S  WHAT DOES HE DO?

A T A K I N G  THE CONTAMINATION OUT OF THE R U B B E R .  THEY  

HAVE D I F F E R E N T  P O I N T S  OF C E R T I F I C A T I O N .  THEY HAVE  

ONE P O I NT  ON A C A R R I E R  A F T E R  THE RUBBER COMES IN 

A B A L E  FORM, T H I S  GUY,  HE T A K E S  THE B A L E  AND 

TURNS I T  OVER AND CHECKS I T  TO S E E  I F  T H E R E  I S  

ANY CONTAMINATION HE CAN S E E  IN THE R U B B E R .  I F  

NOT,  HE P US HES  I T  ON.

Q ARE T HE R E  S O M E . B A L E R  H E L P E R S  WHO J U S T  DO C E R T I F Y ­

ING OR SOME THAT DO S A C K E R ,  OR DOES THE B A L E R  

H E L P E R  HAVE TO DO BOTH OF T H E S E  T H I N G S ?

A W E L L ,  YOU HAVE THE B A L E R  H E L P E R  AND T H E R E  I S  A

GUY NORMALLY A S S I G N E D  TO A L I N E .  HE WORKS ON THE

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END OF THE F I N I S H I N G  L I N E  AT A L L  T I M E S .  HE I S  

A S S I G N E D  TO THE L I N E  W H I L E  T H I S  L I N E  I S  RUNNING.

THEN YOU HAVE M I S C E L L A N E O U S  MEN 

IN C AS E  SOMEBODY C A L L S  O F F  C E R T I F I C A T I O N ,  H O U S E ­

K E E P I N G ,  T HI NG S  OF T H I S  N A T U R E ,  SO THEY HAVE D I F ­

F E R E N T  J O B S ,  D I F F E R E N T  D U T I E S .

Q SO WHAT I S  THE ANSWER,  DOES THE B A L E R  H E L P E R  O R D I ­

N A R I L Y  DO BOTH OF T H E S E  D U T I E S ?

A IN SOME C A S E S ,  Y E S .

Q NOW, WHAT JOB D I D  YOU PROMOTE TO A F T E R  YOU L E F T  

B A L E R  H E L P E R ?

A TO A C OA G UL A TI ON  O P E R A T O R .

Q YOU WENT D I R E C T L Y  FROM B A L E R  TO C OA G UL A TI O N ?

A T E M P O R A R I L Y  C L E A N - U P  AND THEN C O A G U L A T I O N .

Q HOW LONG D I D  I T  TAKE  YOU TO BECOME A COAGULATOR

O P ER A T O R ?

A I HAD ONE W E E K ' S  E X P E R I E N C E  WITH A MAN TO T R AI N

ME ON T H I S  J O B .

Q WHAT DOES A COAGUL AT ION OPERATOR DO?

A HE TURNS T H I S  L I Q U I D  C H E M I C A L ,  T H I S  L I Q U I D

C H E M I C A L  INTO S O L I D S ,  RUBBER P A R T I C L E S ,  AND THEN 

HE PUTS I T  INTO A DRYI NG MA C H I N E .  T H I S  I S  IN THE  

COAGULATION P R O C E D U R E .  HE C OA GU LA TES  I T  AND 

TURNS THE L I Q U I D  INTO A S O L I D  P A R T I C L E  AND THEN 

PUTS I T  INTO A DRYI NG M A C H I NE .  I T  I S  RUBBER THEN

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AFTER HE F I N I S H E S  WITH I T .

Q WHAT DOES THE DRIER OPERATOR DO?

A HE DRIES  THE RUBBER.

Q HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A DRIER  OPERATOR?

A YES - -  NOT REALLY C L A S S I F I E D  AS A DRIER OPERATOR,  

BUT I AM PRESENTLY A FAVOR OPERATOR WHICH CONSISTS  

OF DRYING,  BALING AND COAGULATION.

Q HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO LEARN HOW TO RUN THE 

MACHINE THAT A DRIER OPERATOR RUNS?

A WELL,  I D IDN’ T HAVE ANY TRAINING ON I T ,  I F  THAT 

I S  WHAT YOU MEAN. I T ’ S JUST KIND OF NORMAL.

I T ' S  NOT ANYTHING COMPLICATED TO DO. YOU PUSH 

A BUTTON AND START IT AND PUSH ANOTHER BUTTON AND 

STOP I T .

Q WHAT DOES A DRIER OPERATOR DO?

A I ' L L  SAY HIS BASIC  DUTIES ARE - -  WELL,  HE JUST

DRIES  THE RUBBER.  HE PUTS SOAP ON THE BACK OF 

THE APRON, WHICH IS A TYPE DUST TO KEEP THE RUBBER 

FROM ST ICK IN G TO THE APRON. HE SETS THE TEMPERA­

TURE .

Q DOES HE USE A MACHINE?

A THIS IS  A DRIER MACHINE.

Q DOES HE PRESS BUTTONS?

A NOT UNLESS HE WANTS TO START OR STOP I T .

Q HOW DOES HE KNOW WHEN TO STOP I T ?

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A A HORN GOES OFF .  AN OPERATOR IN THE FRONT TE LL S  

HIM.

Q THE ONLY TIMES HE IS STARTING AND STOPPING IS  

AFTER A HORN IS BLOWN?

A Y E S ,  WHILE HE IS  WATCHING HIS D R IE R .

Q HAVE YOU WORKED IN THE OPERATOR JOBS IN PRODUC­

TION?

A Y E S .  WELL,  L E T ' S  S E E ,  YOU MEAN EXCLUDING COAGULA­

TION AND DRYING? I WORKED SOLUTION ONE DAY.

Q HOW LONG DID IT  TAKE YOU TO LEARN A SOLUTION 

OPERATOR'S JOB?

A I WORKED IT  ONE DAY. I WAS KIND OF IN THE TRAIN­

ING PROCESS.

Q WHEN YOU WERE F I R S T  EMPLOYED IN 1965,  ' 6 6 ,  IN

PRODUCTION, WERE THERE OTHER BLACKS IN PRODUCTION 

WHO WERE ON OPERATOR'S JOBS?

A WHEN I F I R S T  COME IN?

Q Y E S ,  IN 1966.

A I F  THERE WERE IT  MUST HAVE BEEN ABOUT ONE, MAYBE

ONE. I CAN'T REMEMBER.

Q YOU CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY, BUT THERE WERE SOME,  

IS  THAT RIGHT?

A WELL,  IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE. IT  WASN'T TOO MANY 

IN THERE WHEN I F I R S T  COME IN PRODUCTION.

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WHEN YOU F I R S T  CAME IN?

A YES .

Q NOW, DO ALL OF THE OPERATORS WORK IN THE SAME 

GENERAL AREA?

A WELL,  IN THE SAME BUILD ING.

Q ARE THERE CERTAIN S I DE S  OF THE BUILDING?

A YOU MEAN DO THE OPERATOR BE ON CERTAIN S I D E S  OF

THE BUILDING?

Q YES .

A NO, HE E ITHER  BE IN THE BACK,  IN THE MIDDLE,  OR 

IN THE FRONT.

Q WHERE DOES THE REACTOR OPERATOR WORK?

A THIS IS  ACROSS THE ROAD IN THE F I R S T  PART OF THE 

PROCESSING OF THIS L IQUID CHEMICAL FOR RUBBER.

Q AND WHERE DOES THE DRIER OPERATOR WORK?

A I T ' S  ON THE A - S I D E  OF THE ROAD WHICH IS THE AREA

I JUST F IN ISHED  TALKING ABOUT.

Q SO SOME OPERATORS WORK ON ONE S I D E  OF THE ROAD AND 

SOME THE OTHER S I D E ?

A THIS A - S I D E  IS CALLED THE F IN ISH IN G AREA.

Q WHAT IS THE OTHER S I D E  CALLED?

A I COULDN'T BE FOR SURE.

Q THE A - S I D E  CONTAINS WHICH OF THE OPERATOR'S JOBS?

A THE A - S I D E  CONTAINS THE SOLUTION OPERATOR, THE

COAGULATOR OPERATORS AND THE BALER OPERATORS.

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Q AND THE OTHER OPERATORS, THE WING STAY - -

A ACROSS THE ROAD.

Q WHICH ARE HIGHEST IN TERMS OF PAY,  THE SOLUTION 

OPERATOR AND THE COAGULATORS, AND - -

A THEY ARE ON THE A - S I D E ,  WHICH PAYS L E S S ,  AND THE 

OTHER TYPE OPERATORS,  THE WING STAY,  WHICHEVER 

I T  I S ,  IS ON THE OTHER S I D E  OF THE ROAD.

Q WHEN YOU WERE EMPLOYED IN 1966 TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE 

WERE THERE ANY BLACKS C L A S S I F I E D  AS OPERATORS ON 

THE OTHER S I D E  OF THE ROAD, AS YOU REFER TO I T ?

A NONE. NONE THAT I KNOW.

Q WERE YOU WORKING AS AN OPERATOR IN NOVEMBER OF 

THIS YEAR?

A YES .

Q AND WERE ANY BALER HELPERS PROMOTED TO OPERATOR'S  

JOBS ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER?

A I F  THAT IS THE BEGINNING OR THE START UP OF THESE  

L I N E S ,  Y E S ,  IT  WAS QUITE A FEW.

Q DO YOU RECALL WHEN THE UNION RE CE IVED THE INJUNC­

TION THAT THEY SOUGHT?

A WELL,  YOU MEAN WHEN THEY R EC E I V ED  THE INJUNCTION,  

WHEN THE INJUNCTION WAS ISS UE D,  Y E S ,  I CAN'T R E­

MEMBER THE EXACT DATE,  BUT I REMEMBER WHEN IT  

HAPPENED.

Q NOW, AFTER THIS HAPPENED DO YOU RECALL ANY PERSONS

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J O B S ?

Y E S  .

A P P R O X I M A T E L Y  HOW M A N Y  P E R S O N S  W E R E  P R O M O T E D  A F T E R  

T H E  I N J U N C T I O N  W A S  G R A N T E D ?

W E L L ,  I T  W O U L D  B E  A  L I T T L E  ON T H E  H A R D  S I D E  T O  

S A Y ,  B U T  I  W O U L D  S A Y  O V E R  T H R E E  O R  M O R E .  I ' M  

P R E T T Y  S U R E  I T  W A S  M O R E ,  B U T  I  F E E L  P R E T T Y  C O N ­

F I D E N T  A B O U T  T H R E E .

D U R I N G  T H E  T I M E  T H A T  Y O U  H A V E  B E E N  E M P L O Y E D  H A V E  

Y O U  S E E N  P E R S O N S  P R O M O T E D  D I R E C T L Y  F R O M  T H E  B A L E R  

H E L P E R  J O B  T O  T H E  P R O D U C T I O N  J O B ?

Y E S  .

HOW M A N Y  P E R S O N S  H A V E  B E E N  S O  P R O M O T E D ?

I  K N O W  T H R E E  R I G H T  O F F .

A N D  W H A T  I S  T H E I R  R A C E ?

T W O  O F  T H E M  I S  W H I T E  A N D  I K N O W  O N E  B L A C K .

A N D  D O  T H E Y  P R O M O T E  T O  T H I S  T O P  J O B  T O  Y O U R  B E S T  

K N O W L E D G E  W I T H O U T  W O R K I N G  T H E  O T H E R  O P E R A T O R  

J O B ?

Y O U  M E A N  T H E Y  J U S T  M O V E  I N  A N D  S T A R T  W O R K I N G  A S

T O P  O P E R A T O R ?

Y E S  .

Y E S  .

H A S  T H E  B I - R A C I A L  C O M M I T T E E  D I S C U S S E D  T H E

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RECENT OFFER THAT THE COMPANY HAS MADE TO PERMIT  

EMPLOYEES TO TRANSFER OUT OF LABOR, BRINGING THEIR  

SENIO RITY  WITH THEM?

A WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT.

Q HAS THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED WITH THE COMPANY THE

RECENT OFFER THAT WAS MADE BY THE COMPANY?

A OH, Y E S .

(i TO LET BLACKS AND OTHER MINORITY GROUPS BRING 

THEIR  S EN IO RI T Y  WITH THEM?

A Y E S .

C WHEN WAS THIS DISCUSSED?

A I B E L I E V E  AT OUR LAST COMMITTEE MEETING WITH THE

COMPANY.

d AND WHAT POSITION DID THE COMMITTEE TAKE?

A WELL,  WE F E L T  THIS LETTER  WAS - -  AT LE AST ,  I FELT

AND THE COMMITTEE FE L T  THIS LETTER  WAS KIND OF 

WRONG, BUT MR. VAN OSDALL KIND OF CLEARED IT  UP 

E A R L I E R .  IN THE LETTER  IT  STARTED - -  I F  I RE-  

j MEMBER R IGHT ,  THE LETTER  STATED THESE GUYS IN

THIS S P E C I A L  GROUP AFTER BEING TRANSFERRED 10 THIS  

GIVEN AREA IN SHIPPING AND PRODUCTION, I F  A PER­

SON WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO E X E R C I S E  THEIR  

SE N IO RI T Y  WITHIN THE GROUP, BUT THIS PERSON CANNOT 

MOVE INTO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND E X E R C I S E  THEIR  

SEN IO RIT Y  NOR MOVE BACK IN A PREVIOUS

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C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  EX ER CI S I N G S E N I O R I T Y .

THIS IS  WHY I FELT  IT  WAS WRONG 

BECAUSE IT  HAD ALWAYS BEEN THAT A PERSON THAT 

WAS D I S Q U A L I F I E D  OR D I S Q U A L I F I E D  HIMSELF OR LAID  

OFF OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE WOULD BE ABLE TO 

GO BACK IN A PREVIOUS C L A S S I F I C A T I O N  AND E X E R C I S E  

THE S E N I O R I T Y .  I THINK MR. VAN OSDALL STRAIGHTENED  

THAT OUT.

Q WHEN DID HE STRAIGHTEN IT  OUT?

A I THINK E A R L I E R  WHEN HE WAS ON THE STAND YOU

ASKED HIM A QUESTION ABOUT I F  THE GUY DIDN'T  L I K E  

THE DEPARTMENTS OR FOR SOME HEALTH REASON OR 

SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH 

THIS RESTR ICT IO N IN THERE,  AND HE SAID I F  THE GUY 

WERE D I S Q U A L I F I E D  HE WOULD GO BACK INTO ANOTHER 

Q U A L I F I C A T I O N ,  AND HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING 

ABOUT THE GUY JUST NOT L I K I N G  I T ,  SAID HE JUST  

COULDN'T KEEP ON TRANSFERRING A GUY BECAUSE HE 

DIDN'T  L I K E  I T .

Q DURING THE MEETING THE B I - R A C I A L  COMMITTEE HAD

WITH MR. VAN OSDALL TO DISCUSS THE OFF ER ,  DID MR. 

VAN OSDALL T E L L  THE COMMITTEE THAT I F  A PERSON 

WAS D I S Q U A L I F I E D  THEY COULD RETURN TO THE IR  HOME 

DEPARTMENT?

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T H I N G  U P  I N  T H E  M E E T I N G .  I  R E M E M B E R  B R I N G I N G  I T  

U P  A B O U T  T H E  T R A N S F E R ,  B U T  T H E  Q U E S T I O N  W A S  W H E N  

W E  B R O U G H T  T H I S  U P ,  T H E  Q U E S T I O N  M R .  V A N  O S  D A L  L  

S A I D  H E  W A S  S U R P R I S E D  T H A T  NO M O R E  O F  T H E  B L A C K S  

H A D  T R A N S F E R R E D ,  B E C A U S E  T H E Y  H A D  - -  I  S A I D  I T  

W A S  P R O B A B L Y  B E C A U S E  O F  T H E  S T R O N G  R E S T R I C T I O N

H E  H A D  I N  T H I S  L E T T E R .

L I K E  MY U N C L E ,  F O R  I N S T A N C E ,  H E

H A D  A  H E L P  P R O B L E M  I F  H E  T R A N S F E R R E D  I N T O  T H E  

S H I P P I N G  D E P A R T M E N T ,  W H I C H  M E A N T  H E  W A S  G E T T I N G  

O N  A N D  O F F  T H E  TOW M O T O R .  H E  W A S  G E T T I N G  C R A M P S  

I N  H I S  L E G S .  A F T E R  H E  G O T  I N  T H E R E  H E  S T A R T E D  

H A V I N G  T R O U B L E ,  B U T  B E C A U S E  O F ’ T H E  R E S T R I C T I O N  

I N  T H E  L E T T E R ,  W E L L ,  T H I S  C A U S E D  S O M E  O F  T H E  G U Y S  

T O  H E S I T A T E  A B O U T  M O V I N G  B E C A U S E  H E  H A D  T O  B E  

S U R E  H E  W A S  M A K I N G  T H E  R I G H T  M O V E .  S O  T H I S  W A S  

T H E  M A I N  P O I N T  WE  B R O U G H T  U P  I N  R E G A R D S  T O  T H E  

L E T T E R  M R .  V A N  O S D A L L  I S S U E D  T O  T H E S E  S P E C I A L

E M P L O Y E E S .

N O W ,  Y O U  W E R E  E M P L O Y E D  I N  ' 6 6  I N  T H E  P R O D U C T I O N  

D E P A R T M E N T ,  S O  Y O U  H A V E  D I V I S I O N  S E N I O R I T Y ?

Y E S  .

F R O M  ' 6 6  I N  T H A T  D E P A R T M E N T ?

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A YES .

Q NOW, I F  THE BLACK EMPLOYEES IN THE LABOR DEPART­

MENT ARE PERMITTED TO BRING THEIR PLANT SEN IO RIT Y  

WITH THEM WHEN THEY TRANSFER TO THE D I V I S I O N  THAT 

YOU ARE IN SOME OF THESE BLACK EMPLOYEES WILL  HAVE 

MORE D I V I S I O N  SE N IO RI T Y  THAN YOU?

A YES .

Q WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT T HI S?

MR. BURCH: OBJECTION,  YOUR

HONOR. JUST FOR THE RECORD AGAIN,  

HIS OPINION IS REALLY IRRELEVANT  

TO ANY LEGAL ISSUE  IN THIS CASE.

THE COURT: I WOULD L I K E  TO

HEAR I T .

A WELL,  I F E E L  THAT IT  IS R IG HT , '  THAT SAY FOR IN ­

STANCE L I K E  MR. - -  ANY OF THOSE GUYS HERE BACK 

OVER THAT PERIOD OF T IME ,  I F  I REMEMBER RIGHT MY 

UNCLE WAS HIRED THERE ABOUT THE TIME I WAS BORN 

AND WHEN I COME OUT TO GOODYEAR I WAS MAKING MORE 

MONEY THAN HE WAS THE F I R S T  DAY I WAS WORKING 

THERE.  I F E L T  THAT WAS REAL WRONG. ALL  THE GUYS 

THAT WAS HIRED IN BEFORE I WAS - -  IT  DIDN'T SEEM 

R I G H T .

Q WHAT IS YOUR UNCLE ’ S NAME?

A JOHN BEAN.
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F U R T H E R .

MR. BURCH:  MAY I HAVE

J U S T  A MOMENT, YOUR HONOR?

THE COURT :  A L L  R I G H T .

CROSS E X A M I NA T IO N

BY MR. BURCH:

Q MR. B E A N ,  DO YOU KNOW OF A S I N G L E  G R I E V A N C E  F I L E D  

BY A B L ACK S I N C E  YOU HAVE B E EN EMPLOYED T H E R E  

THAT YOU THOUGHT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TURNED DOWN 

BY THE COMPANY B E C A U S E  I T  HAD NO M E R I T ?

A L E T ' S  S E E ,  I C A N ' T  T H I NK  OF ANY P A R T I C U L A R  ONE,  

BUT I ' M  SURE  THAT I H A V E .  I ' M  D E F I N I T E L Y  SURE  

THAT I H A VE .  I F  I HAD T I M E  I COULD COME UP WITH  

S O M E T H I N G .

Q A L L  R I G H T .

MR. BU RC H:  I DO N ' T  HAVE

ANY Q U E S T I O N S .

THE COURT :  A L L  R I G H T .

MR. WHEAT.

E V E L Y N  O V E R B E C K
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CROSS EXAMINATION

BY MR. WHEAT:

Q MR. BEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF APPROXIMATELY  

HOW MANY GRIEVANCES ARE F I L E D  FROM THE WHOLE 

BARGAINING UNIT EACH DAY?

A NO, I HAVEN'T.

Q WELL,  DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY 

STEWARDS THERE ARE AT PRESENT?

A WELL,  JUDGING FROM THE L I S T ,  FROM LOOKING AT THE 

L I S T ,  JUST A GLANCE AT THE L I S T ,  I ' L L  SAY ROUGHLY 

TWENTY. I DON'T KNOW FROM ALL AREAS,  BUT FROM 

MY AREA I WOULD SAY ROUGHLY TWENTY.

Q W O U L D  Y O U  D I S A G R E E  W I T H  T H E  S U G G E S T I O N  T H A T

P O S S I B L Y  A  D O Z E N  G R I E V A N C E S  A R E  F I L E D  A D A Y ?  W O U L D  

THAT S E E M  HIGH TO YOU OR LOW, OR ABOUT RIGHT?

A T H A T  W O U L D  S E E M  H I G H .

Q HOW A B O U T  H A L F  A D O Z E N  A  D A Y ?

A  I W O U L D N ' T  T H I N K  T H A T  M A N Y .

Q A S  A S T E W A R D  A N D  A N  O F F I C E R  O F  T H E  U N I O N  DO Y O U

H A V E  A N Y  I D E A  O F  T H E  A P P R O X I M A T E  C O S T  O F  P U R S U I N G  

A G R I E V A N C E  A L L  T H E  W A Y  T H R O U G H  A R B I T R A T I O N ?

A  I T H I N K  I T  R U N  H I M  Q U I T E  A  B I T  O F  M O N E Y ,  B U T  I

T H I N K  W H E N  I T  C O M E S  I N  A R B I T R A T I O N  T H E  U N I O N  A N D

T H E  C O M P A N Y  B O T H  S H A R E  T H E  C O S T  F O R  E X P E N S E  O F

A R B I T R A T I N G ,  I B E L I E V E .  ___________________________________

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Q ASSUMING THEY DO SHARE I T ,  WOULD YOU DISAGREE

WITH THE PROPOSITION IT  IS  $1500 TO $2000 ON EACH 

S I D E  TO PROCESS A CASE THROUGH ARBITRATION? DOES 

THAT SOUND REASONABLE TO YOU?

A WELL,  MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO SAY THAT AGAIN.

Q WOULD YOU DISAGREE OR DID YOU KNOW THAT THE COST

OF PROCESSING AN ARBITRATION CASE IS APPROXIMATELY  

$1500 ON EACH S I D E ?

A NO, I D IDN'T  KNOW.

Q DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW LONG I T  TAKES TO GET

A GRIEVANCE FROM THE F I R S T  STEP THROUGH ARBITRATION  

AND TO THE POINT OF AN ARBITRATOR'S  REWARD?

A I WOULD SAY IT  DEPENDS ON THE RE PR E SE N T AT IV E ,  ON 

HOW LONG IT TAKES TO PROCESS I T .

Q YOU DON'T THINK IT  WOULD MAKE ANY DI FF ERE NC E  WHAT 

THE ARBITRATOR'S  SCHEDULE WAS OR HOW LONG IT  

WOULD TAKE TO S EL EC T  ONE?

A WELL,  FROM PAST ACTION IT DOESN'T SEEM L I K E  IT  

WOULD TAKE VERY LONG TO S E L E C T  ONE.

Q HAVE YOU EVER KNOWN OF AN ARBITRATION CASE RESULTIN  

IN AN AWARD IN LESS THAN S I X  MONTHS TO A YEAR 

FROM THE F I L I N G  OF THE GRIEVANCE?

A FROM THE F I L I N G  OF THE GRIEVANCE?  Y ES .

Q CAN YOU NAME ONE FOR US?

A WELL,  L E T ' S  S E E ,  I THOUGHT CONTINENTAL BOXES WHICH
E V E L Y N  O V E R H E C K
O F F IC IA L  CO U RT R E P O R T E R

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I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHILE AGO, I THINK CONTINENTAL  

BOXES’ ARBITRATOR WAS SETTLED IN LESS TIME THAN 

THAT.

Q ARE YOU FAMIL IAR WITH THAT?

A S L I G H T L Y .

Q WHAT GROUP WAS THAT ARBITRATION SOUGHT ON BEHALF  

OF?

A I THINK THE PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT. THE OPERATOR

WAS A L I T T L E  DISTURBED ABOUT HAVING TO MAKE THE 

BOXES.  I THINK THE BOXES COME IN,  WHEN THE BOXES 

COMING IN,  IT  WAS A L I T T L E  CONFUSION ABOUT WHO WAS 

GOING TO BUILD THESE BOXES,  SO THE OPERATOR SAY 

HE DIDN'T  HAVE THE TIME TO BUILD THESE BOXES.  THE 

COMPANY SAY HE DID HAVE THE T IME .  SO HE CALLED AN 

ARBITRATOR.

Q I S N ' T  IT TRUE THAT THE UNION PROCESSED THIS CASE 

FROM THE GRIEVANCE ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO 

ARBITRATION ON BEHALF OF THE LABOR DEPARTMENT?

A NOT TO MY KNOWING. I ALWAYS HAD THE UNDERSTANDING 

I T  WAS THE OPER-TORS THAT WERE D I S S A T I S F I E D  AND 

F E L T  IT  WASN'T THEIR  JOB ABOUT THE BOXES.  THAT 

IS  MY BEST UNDERSTANDING.

Q YOU DON'T KNOW, AND WHATEVER THE ARBITRATION AWARD 

SAYS WOULD BE CORRECT TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE?

A I THINK I GLIMPSED AT THE ARBITRATOR’ S ANSWER AND

E V E L Y N  O V ERBEC K
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THE COMPANY THROUGHT TO BE THAT I T  WAS THE 

OPERATOR’ S JOB TO BUILD THESE BOXES.  I THINK THEY 

KIND OF SET IT  UP ON THE BASIS  WHERE AN OPERATOR 

WOULD MAKE THE BOX AND LOCK IT  AND THE SACKER 

WOULD INSERT I T ,  OR SOMETHING L I K E  THAT. THEY 

COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON I T .

THE COURT: THIS WAS A

J U R IS D I C T I O N A L  D I SPUTE?

THE WITNESS:  WELL,  THE

ONLY THING THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT 

THE OPERATORS D IDN’ T THINK I T  WAS 

THEIR JOB TO DO T H I S .

THE COURT: IT  I S  A QUESTIO

OF WHICH GROUP DID WHAT?

THE WITNESS:  WELL,  S E E ,

THIS WAS RIGHT IN THE SAME AREA.  

S E E ,  THE OPERATOR,  YOU HAVE A BALER  

OPERATOR AND A BALER HELPER .  THEY 

THOUGHT IT  WAS THE BALER H E L P E R ’ S 

JOB OR SOMEBODY E L S E ' S  JOB.

Q YOU MENTIONED A GRIEVANCE INVOLVING MR. CHARLES 

SMITH,  AND YOU MENTIONED THE 90-DAY PERIOD.

MAY WE ASSUME HE WAS F I R E D  WITHIN THE F I R S T  90 

DAYS OF EMPLOYMENT?

A I DIDN'T  THINK SO. I THINK HE WAS EMPLOYED F I V E

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0R S I X  MONTHS.

Q WHAT WAS THE S I G N I F I C A N C E  OF THE 90 DAYS?

A THE REASON I SAY THAT WAS TO SHOW THAT HE WAS

A REGULAR EMPLOYEE.  ANY TIME A REGULAR EMPLOYEE 

IS  LAID OFF FOR A PERIOD OF 29 MONTHS, I THINK 

WHICH MEANS 29 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS, WELL THEN, THE 

PERSON WOULD LOSE THE IR  S E N I O R I T Y .  SO THE POINT  

WAS IT  SHOWED THIS GUY WAS A REGULAR EMPLOYEE,

AND THAT WASN'T THE CASE WHEN THIS GUY LOST 

HIS S EN IO RI T Y  AND STARTED BACK WITH A 90-DAY  

PROBATION.

Q SO THE INCIDENT OCCURRED AFTER HE HAD BEEN BACK 

ON THE JOB LESS THAN 90 DAYS AFTER HAVING LOST 

S E N I O R I T Y ?

A LET ME SEE  - -  MAYBE I CAN EXPLAIN IT  I F  YOU WOULD 

L I K E  ME TO.

Q GO RIGHT AHEAD.

A THIS GUY, I 'M SURE HE HAD OVER HIS 90 DAYS.  I

THINK HE HAD S I X  MONTHS. OKAY. NOW, I THINK THE 

CONTRACT FOR LOSS OF SENI  OR I T Y , YOU HAVE TO BE 

LAID OFF FOR A PERIOD OF TWENTY-FOUR MONTHS OR 

SOME OTHER REASON, BUT I T ' S  NOT HE REASON THEY 

REFERRED TO IN THIS CASE.  THIS GUY WAS F IR ED  FOR 

SOME REASON, AND THEN REHIRED BACK IN THE SAME

90-DAY PROBATION. ONE OF THE CH IE F  STEWARDS AT

E  V E L  Y N  0  V E l l  H E C K
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THAT TIME SAID TO ME THAT MR. VAN OSDALL WANTED 

TO CHASTISE  THIS IND IV I DU A L .

Q WAS CHARLES SMITH IN FACT F I R E D ?

A NOW, DEPENDS ON WHAT T)U CALL F I R E D .

Q WAS HE ACTUALLY OFF THE PAYROLL AND OFF THE

PREMISES?

A THE BEST I KNOW HE WAS.

Q AND AFTER THAT WAS THE UNION ASKED TO DO SOMETHING 

ABOUT I T ?

A WELL,  I THINK THIS WAS IN THE HEARING,  WHEN THEY 

TOOK HIS S E N I O R I T Y .  I THINK THIS WAS ALL  IN THE 

HEARING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE UNION AND THE COM­

PANY .

Q AFTER THAT WAS HE PUT BACK TO WORK?

A YES .

Q YOU MENTIONED A CASE INVOLVING A MR. BURNETT,

AND YOU SAID THAT HE WAS GIVEN SOME TIME OFF B E ­

CAUSE OF THE E X C E S S I V E  ABSENSES AND BECAUSE HE 

WASN’ T CALLING IN PROPERLY,  AND THAT THE UNION 

DIDN'T  DO ANYTHING ABOUT I T ,  AND WHAT DID YOU WANT 

THE UNION TO DO ABOUT THAT OR WHAT SHOULD THE 

UNION HAVE DONE ABOUT I T ?

A I THINK I SAID FROM OBSERVATION I THINK MR. VAN 

OSDALL HAS HIS  WAY OF DOING THINGS.

Q I WILL ASK YOU TO ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THIS
E V E L Y N  OVERBEC K
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P A R T I C U L A R  I N C I D E N T  S O  W E  C A N  G E T  Y O U R  A C C O U N T  

O F  T H E  F A C T S .  W H A T  W A S  I T  T H A T  T H E  U N I O N  D I D N ' T  

D O I N  T H E  B U R N E T T  C A S E  T H A T  I T  S H O U L D  H A V E  D O N E ?  

W E L L ,  L E T ' S  S E E  NOW -  W E L L ,  I  T H I N K  I T  S H O U L D  

H A V E  B E E N  P O I N T E D  O U T ,  W H I C H  M I G H T  N O T  H A V E  B E E N  

A  G O O D  I D E A ,  B U T  I T  S H O U L D  B E  P O I N T E D  O U T  T H E R E  

W E R E  O T H E R  I N D I V I D U A L S  T H A T  H A D  A  P R E T T Y  B A D  R E C O R D  

W H I T E  I N D I V I D U A L S  T H A T  H A D .  N O T H I N G  W A S  E V E R  S A I D  

O R  D O N E  A B O U T  I T .  I T  M I G H T  H A V E  B E E N  A G O O D  I D E A  

O R  N O T  I N  T H E  U N I O N ' S  B E H A L F ,  R U T  N E V E R T H E L E S S  

I T  W A S  U N J U S T  T O  T H I S  B L A C K  I N D I V I D U A L .

NAME US A W H I TE  E M P L O Y E E  WHO HAD MORE A B S E N C E S

T H A N  M R .  B U R N E T T ?

THEY DON’ T L E T  US S E E  T H E I R  RECORDS ON A B S E N T E E ­

I S M .  I SAY FROM O B S E R V A T I O N ,  AND I WORK IN T H I S  

P A R T I C U L A R  A RE A AND I F  THEY GOT A RECORD IN THE  

O F F I C E  WHERE A L L  THE S U P E R V I S O R S ,  WHEN P E O P L E  C A L L  

OF F  THEY MARK E I G H T  HOURS IN T H I S  THING AND I GOES  

IN T H E RE  AND E V ER YB O DY GOES T H E R E  FROM T I M E  TO 

T I M E  AND THEY S E E  THE R E C O R D S .  THE P E O P L E  WOULD 

BE C A L L I N G  O F F  AND I T  WOULD BE PUT ON THE BOARD.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE T E S T I F Y I N G  FROM YOUR 

O B S E R V A T I O N ,  SO FROM YOUR O B S E R V A T I O N S  WHAT WHITE  

E M P L O Y E E  HAS MORE A B S E N C E S  THAN B U R N E T T ?

W E L L ,  I T H I N K  A GUY NAMED S H E E B A Y .
- “  E V E L Y N  O V E R B E C K  ~

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Q WHAT IS HIS NAME?

A SHEEBAY.  I THINK A GUY NAMED C.  SEARCY.  I DON’ T 

THINK HE IS  EMPLOYED RIGHT NOW. I THINK HE JUST  

L E F T .

Q HE WASN'T F I R E D ?

A NO, I THINK HE DECIDED HE WANTED TO GO TO ALABAMA 

AND L I V E .

Q EACH OF THESE TWO HAD MORE ABSENCES?

A IN MY OPINION,  Y E S .

Q THAN MR. BURNETT?

A YES .

Q YOU MENTIONED THE HOBSON GRIEVANCE THAT HAD BEEN 

F I L E D  IN SEPTEMBER AND IT IS S T I L L  PENDING?

A YES .

Q YOU SAY THE UNION DIDN’ T DO ANYTHING. BY THAT,

YOU MEAN THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET OR YOU 

MEAN THEY SHOULD HAVE MOVED QUICKER OR THERE SHOULD 

ALREADY BE AN ARBITRATION AWARD?

A YOU HAVE THREE DAYS TO ANSWER A GRIEVANCE.  L I K E

YOU SAID ,  I THINK THIS GRIEVANCE WAS PRESENTED  

IN SEPTEMBER AND YOU GOT THREE DAYS TO ANSWER A 

GRIEVANCE.  THIS GRIEVANCE HASN’ T BEEN ANSWERED,

AND ANOTHER THING IS - -  WELL,  MAYBE I SHOULDN'T  

SAY I T .

Q WELL,  L E T ' S  S E E ,  YOU ARE NOW AN O F F IC E R  OF THE
E V E L Y N  O V E R B E C K
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UNION?

A Y E S ,  I AM

Q WAS HOBSON ONE OF THE E M P L O Y E E S  THAT YOU R E P R E ­

S E N T E D ?

Q WHAT KNOWLEDGE THEN DO YOU HAVE OF H I S  S I T U A T I O N  

OR HOW DI D YOU O BT A IN  SUCH KNOWLEDGE?

A W E L L ,  I T ' S  THROUGH H I S  S T A TE M EN T S  TO ME.  OF COURSE  

I D I D N ' T  R E P R E S E N T  HIM TO THE COMPANY.  I T  WAS 

THROUGH H I S  S T A TE ME NT S  TO ME AND THE R E S T  OF I T  

WERE H E A R S A Y .

Q WHO I S  H I S  STEWARD?

A I DON' T KNOW.

Q W E L L ,  YOU WERE CONCERNED WITH H I S  PROBLEMS AND 

Y E T  YOU WERE NOT H I S  STEWARD Y O U R S E L F ?

A I T A L K E D  TO HI M.  THAT I S  WHEN HE MADE THE S T A T E ­

MENT TO ME.

Q YOU D I D N ' T  T A L K  TO H I S  S TEWARD,  THOUGH?

A I DON' T  KNOW WHO THE STEWARD I S .

Q DO YOU T H I N K  MR. HOBSON COULD HAVE TOLD YOU I F

YOU HAD A SK ED HIM?

A Y E S ,  BUT I DO N ' T  HAVE C O N F I D E N C E  IN THE PROCEDURE

A NO

M Y S E L F

Q HOW MANY G R I E V A N C E S  AS A STEWARD HAVE YOU F I L E D ?

A THAT ONE I WAS T E L L I N G  YOU ABOUT

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T H A T  IS T H E  O N L Y  O N E ?

T H A T  I S  T H E  O N L Y  O N E  P E R S O N A L L Y  I  F I L E D .  I  N E V E R  

S A W  A N Y  R E S U L T S .  F R O M  MY O B S E R V A T I O N  I H A D  S E E N  

A  N U M B E R  O F  O T H E R  G U Y S  F I L E  G R I E V A N C E S  A N D  N O  R E ­

S U L T S  ,  S O  I W O U L D  L I K E  T O  - -  W H E N  I  AM I N V O L V E D  

I N  S O M E T H I N G ,  W H E T H E R  I T  B E  A  W H I T E  E M P L O Y E E  O R  A  

B L A C K  E M P L O Y E E , A N D  I T H I N K  P R O B A B L Y  M R .  J E S S E  

J O N E S  C O U L D  W I T N E S S  T H I S ,  I  B E L I E V E  I N  G E T T I N G  T H E  

B E S T  R E S U L T S ,  W H E T H E R  T H I S  B E  B Y  T H E  P R O C E D U R E S  O R  

F I L I N G  G R I E V A N C E S  O R  N O T .  I F  I  C O U L D  C A L L  H I M  

ON T H E  T E L E P H O N E ,  A N D  I T H I N K  T H A T  I S  T H E  N E C E S ­

S A R Y  T H I N G  T O  D O ,  I  T R Y  T O  D O  I T  L I K E  T H A T .

D O  Y O U  K N O W  A N  E M P L O Y E E  N A M E D  S H E P H E R D ?

I H E A R  T A L K  O F  H I M .

W H A T  I S  H I S  R A C E ?

H E  I S  B L A C K ,  A N D  I T H I N K  H E  W A S  D I S C H A R G E D  B E F O R E  

I  C A M E  T O  W O R K .

A R E  Y O U  F A M I L I A R  W I T H  T H E  C A S E  T H E  G R I E V A N C E  W A S  

F I L E D  ON H I S  B E H A L F  T O  O B T A I N  H I S  R E T I R E M E N T  B E N E ­

F I T S ?

N O .

A R E  Y O U  F A M I L I A R  W I T H  A N  E M P L O Y E E  N A M E D  C H A R L E Y  

S M I T H ?

C H A R L E S  S M I T H ,  Y E S .

W H A T  I S  H I S  R A C E ?

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A BLACK.

Q ARE YOU FAMILIAR  WITH AN OCCASION WHEN HE WAS

DISCHARGED BY THE COMPANY AND A UNION PROCESSED  

A GRIEVANCE AND GOT HIS JOB BACK?

A I F  THAT IS THE CASE I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

Q DO YOU KNOW JOHN LONG?

A Y E S ,  I DO.

Q WHAT IS HIS RACE?

A BLACK.

Q DO YOU RECALL GRIEVANCES PROCESSED?

A ARBITRATION,  TOO. I EVEN READ THE ARGUMENT OF 

THE COMPANY AND THE UNION.

Q AND THE CASE WAS PROCESSED ALL  THE WAY TO ARBITRA­

TION?

A THAT IS WHAT I MEANT BY BARGAINING C O L L E C T I V E L Y .

THAT WAS POOR BARGAINING IN MY SENSE OF JUDGMENT.  

THE BEST I CAN READ THE ARBITRATION ANSWER, THIS  

GUY ONLY HAD ONE PERSON THAT WAS TRYING TO R EP RE ­

SENT HIM AND THE ARGUMENTS WERE VERY,  VERY WEAK.  

I 'M  NOT VERY WELL EDUCATED AND I COULD SEE  THE 

ARGUMENT IS VERY WEAK.

Q YOU MEAN THE UNION ARGUMENT WAS WEAK?

A VERY WEAK,

Q IN THE ARBITRATION CASE?

A YES .
E V E L Y N  O Y E R  H E C K
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T H A T  T H E Y  P U R S U E D  A L L  T H E  W A Y  F R O M  A R B I T R A T I O N  

F O R  M R .  L O N G .

Y E S  .

Y O U  C I T E  T H A T  A S  A N  E X A M P L E  O F  P O O R  C O L L E C T I V E  

B A R G A I N I N G  B Y  T H E  U N I O N ?

Y E S ,  I  D O .

D I D  Y O U  R E V I E W  T H E  A R G U M E N T  Y O U R S E L F ?

Y O U  M E A N  W I T H  T H E  I N D I V I D U A L S ?

T H A T  T H E  U N I O N  P R E S E N T E D  I N  M R .  L O N G ’ S C A S E ,

D I D  Y O U  L O O K  A T  I T  Y O U R S E L F  O R  H E A R  I T ?

I  R E A D  T H E  A R B I T R A T O R ’ S A N S W E R .  T H E  A R B I T R A T O R ,

T H E  B E S T  I  C O U L D  T E L L ,  T H E  A R B I T R A T O R  M U S T  S I T  

I N  A N D  L I S T E N  T O  B O T H  S I D E S  A R G U E ,  L I K E  M R .  V A N  

O S D A L L  S A Y S  H E  W A N T S  T O  F I R E  T H E  MAN A N D  P R O D U C E S  

T H E  R E A S O N  A N D  T H E  U N I O N  S A Y S  N O ,  T H E N  T H E Y  G O  

R I G H T  ON D OWN T H E  L I N E .  T H I S  I S  T H E  W A Y  I  R E A D  

T H E  A R B I T R A T O R ’ S A N S W E R .  A L L  M R .  V A N  O S D A L L ’ S 

A R G U M E N T S  L O O K  F A R  H E A V I E R  O V E R  T H E  U N I O N ' S  A R G U ­

M E N T .  I T H I N K  I F  I W A S  J U S T  R E A D I N G  A R B I T R A T I O N  

M Y S E L F ,  I P R O B A B L Y  W O U L D  H A V E  F I R E D  H I M .

M R .  W H E A T :  I T H I N K  I  W I L L

P A S S  Y O U  O N  T H A T  P O I N T ,  S I R .  T H A N K  

Y O U  .

T H E  C O U R T :  M R S .  MC D O N A L D .

M R S .  MC D O N A L D :  I D O N ' T

E V E L Y N  O V E R B E C K
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H A V E  A N Y T H I N G  F U R T H E R ,  Y O U R  H O N O R .  

T H E  C O U R T :  M R .  B U R C H ?

M R .  B U R C H :  N O T H I N G  F U R T H E R

T H E  C O U R T :  A L L  R I G H T .  Y O U

M A Y  S T E P  D O W N .

T H E  C O U R T :  A T  T H I S  P O I N T  WE  W I L L

T A K E  A  S H O R T  R E C E S S  O F  F I F T E E N  M I N U T E S .

( S H O R T  R E C E S S . )

T H E  C O U R T :  C A L L  Y O U R  N E X T  W I T N E S S .

M R S .  MC D O N A L D :  Y O U R  H O N O R ,  P L A I N T !

H A S  NO M O R E  W I T N E S S E S  F O R  I T S  D I R E C T  C A S E .  H O W E V E R ,  ON  

T H E  Q U E S T I O N  O F  A P P L I C A T I O N S  A N D  R E J E C T I O N S  B E C A U S E  O F  

T H E  T E S T S ,  I F  T H E  C O U R T  W I L L  R E C A L L  T H I S  W A S  R A I S E D  A N D  

T H E R E  W A S  S O M E  Q U E S T I O N  A S  T O  W H E T H E R  OR  N O T  T H E  C O M P A N ' '  

H A S  A  R E C O R D .  T H I S  M O R N I N G  M R .  B U R C H  H A S  P R O V I D E D  ME  

W I T H  A  Q U A R T E R L Y  S U M M A R Y  O F  W H A T  H E  T E L L S  ME  I S  A  R E P O R "  

T H A T  I S  M A D E  E V E R Y  Q U A R T E R  T O  T H E  H O M E  O F F I C E  O F  G O O D ­

Y E A R  I N D I C A T I N G  T H E  N U M B E R  O F  P E R S O N S  WHO A R E  E M P L O Y E D  

A N D  R E J E C T E D  A N D  T H E I R  R E A S O N S  F O R  B E I N G  R E J E C T E D .  I 

T H I N K  T H A T  T H E  Q U A R T E R L Y S U M M A R I E S  A R E  S U F F I C I E N T L Y  

E X P L A N A T O R Y ,  S O  I F  T H I S  S T I P U L A T I O N  O F  W H A T  I S A I D  

I S  C O R R E C T  W E  D O N ' T  N E E D  T O  C A L L  M R .  V A N  O S D A L L  T O

A U T H E N T I C A T E  T H E  R E C O R D .

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I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A QUARTER 

MISS ING,  BUT THESE ARE - -  THIS WAS WHAT MR. BURCH 

HAS TOLD ME THAT THE COMPANY HAS IN THE IR  RECORDS,

AND THAT IS ALL THEY HAVE.

THE COURT: ALL  RIGHT.  YOU WISH TO

INTRODUCE I T ?

E X H I B I T  18,

OBJECTION?

MRS. MC DONALD: Y E S ,  AS P L A I N T I F F ' S

B E L I E V E  .

THE COURT; I TAKE IT  THERE IS NO

MR. WHEAT: NO OBJECT ION.

MR. BURCH: YOUR HONOR, I F  I MIGHT

I WANT TO STATE AN OBJECTION PRIMARILY FOR PURPOSES OF 

EXPLANATION.  THESE F I G U R E S ,  I AM TOLD, COVER ALL  

APPLICANTS FOR ALL CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYMENT, WHETHER 

THEY ARE SALARIED OUTSIDE OF THE UNION BARGAINING UNIT 

OR WHETHER THEY ARE IN BARGAINING UNITS REPRESENTED BY 

OTHER UNIONS.  I DO NOT ADVISE  THAT WE HAVE THE MEANS 

OF SEPARATING OUT THOSE D IFF ER EN T  C L A S S E S ,  SO I DO 

THINK IT  CONTAINS MATERIAL THAT IS IRRELEVANT.

THE COURT: I S  THERE ANY WAY THAT

THE COURT CAN NOTE FROM LOOKING AT IT  WHAT IS RELEVANT,  

OR IS THAT AN I M P O S S I B I L I T Y ?

MR. BURCH: THAT IS AN I M P O S S I B I L I T

AS FAR AS I CAN JUDGE,  YOUR HONOR. WE HAVE E X H I B I T S ,

EVELYN OVERBECK
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SENIO RITY  L I S T S ,  FOR EXAMPLE,  THAT WILL  INDICATE CURRENT

EMPLOYEES OF D I FF ERE NT  RACES EMPLOYED IN THIS BARGAINING 

UNIT AND TO SOME EXTENT THAT WILL  ENABLE THE COURT TO 

EVALUATE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE BARGAINING UNIT ,  BUT WE 

CANNOT BREAK THOSE F IGURES DOWN.

MRS. MC DONALD: THE F IGURES MR.

BURCH ^ OU L D HAVE FOR PERSONS IN THE BARGAINING UNIT  

WOULdJ P B P ^ O N S  WHO WERE HIRED.  WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED 

WITH IS PERSONS WHO WERE REJECTED BECAUSE OF FA ILUR E  TO

PASS THE T E S T .

THE COURT: I WILL  SAY T H I S ,  THAT

IT OCCURRED TO THE COURT E A R L I E R  THAT THIS CASE ,  THE 

RECORD FROM THIS CASE COULD RESULT IN A S ITUATION IN 

WHICH THE COURT WOULD NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE S IGN-  

NIF ICANCE  OF ALL  OF THE TESTIMONY AND THE RECORDS AND 

IT MAY BE NECESSARY THAT FOLLOWING THE HEARING THE COURT 

WILL HAVE TO CALL ON YOUR FOR A POST T R IA L  MEMORANDUM 

IN WHICH YOU RELATE WHAT HAS COME FORTH HERE AT THE 

TRIAL  TO THE S P E C I F I C  E X H I B I T S  SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND 

AND DO NOT OVERLOOK SOME FACET OF I T .

ALL RIGHT .  MRS. MC DONALD, PL AIN ­

T I F F ' S  E X H I B I T  18 WILL  BE ADMITTED.

MRS. MC DONALD: YOUR HONOR, THERE

IS ANOTHER MATTER THAT I WOULD L I K E  TO RAI SE  WITH

RESPECT TO OTHER E X H I B I T S  THAT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED BY
E V E L Y N  O V E R B E C K
O F F IC IA L  CO U R T R E P O R T E R

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