Le Clair v. O'Neil Jurisdictional Statement
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In the 0n;trrmr Court of tljr IHuitrii ^tatru October T erm , 1909 no. )s,r ANN MARIE LE CLAIR, MARY LINDA LUSK, RUTH VAD- NEY, JILL WATTS, WILLIAM PASTREICH, NATIONAL W ELFARE RIGHTS ORGANIZATION, MASSACHUSETTS WELFARE RIGHTS ORGANIZATION, WORCESTER W EL FARE RIGHTS ORGANIZATION, individually and on behalf of other persons simiarly situated, APPELLANTS, V. GEORGE D. O ’NEIL, Chief of Police of the City of Worcester, WILLIAM T, BUCKLEY, District Attorney for the City of Worcester, ROBERT H. QUINN, Attorney General of the Com monwealth of Massachusetts, JOHN P. GUILFOIL, Director of the Worcester Welfare Service Office, ROBERT OTT, Commis sioner of Welfare for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, in dividually and in their official capacities, APPELLEES. ON APPEAL. PROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS JURISDICTIONAL STATEMENT M elvyn Z aer A llan G. R odgers L awrence K otin B arbara S chwartzbaum 80 Boylston Street Boston, Massachusetts 02116 Of counsel: A ttorueys for Appellants A nthony G. A msterdam Stephen B ardige A ndrew L. P hilip Blanchard Press, Inc., Boston, Mass. — Law Printers INDEX Opinion Below ............................................................... Jurisdiction ..................................................................... ^ Statute Involved .............................................................. Question Presented ........................................................ •’ Statement of the Case .................................................... •“ The Federal Question Presented is Substantial The Decision Below Seriously Undermines the Power and Responsibility of the Federal Courts to Protect Citizens From the Repressive Effects of Vague and Overbroad State Laws Trenching Upon First and Fourteenth Amendment Rights ................................ 8 Conclusion ....................................................................... Appendix Opinion of the United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts ......................................... '"i Judgment of the United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts ........................................... 10a T able of Cases Page Ashton v. Kentucky, 384 U.S. 195 (1966) .................. 10 Baggett v. Bullitt, 377 U.S. 360 (1964) ................... 13, 21 Baker v. Bindner, 274 F. Supp. 658 (W.D. Ky. 1967) 24 Brown v. Louisiana, 383 U.S. 131 (1966) .................... 23 Cameron v. Johnson, 390 U.S. 611 (1968) ............... 2,18 Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296 (1941) . . . . 9,11,16 Carmichael v. Allen, 267 F. Supp. 985 (N.D. Ga. 1966) 24 Commonwealth v. Oaks, 113 Mass. 8 (1873) ............. 8 Cox v. Louisiana, 379 U.S. 536 (1965) ............... 9,10,11 Dombrowski v. Pfister, 380 U.S. 479 (1965) . . . 13,15, 23 11 Index Edwards v. South Carolina-, 372 U.S. 229 (1963) . . . 9, 10, 11, 16 Garner v. Louisiana, 368 U.S. 157 (1961) .................. 17 Golden v. Zwichler, 394 U.S. 103 (1969) .................... 22 Gregory v. Chicago, 394 U.S. I l l (1969) .................... 13 Guyot v. Pierce, 372 F.2d 658 (5th Cir. 1967) ........... 24 Hurley v. Hinckley, 304 F. Supp. 704 (D. Mass. 1969), aff’d sub nom. Doyle v. O’Brien,------U .S.-------, Jan uary 12, 1970 --------------------------------------------- 6,16, 25 Keyishian v. Board of Regents, 385 U.S. 589 (1967) . 19 Landry v. Daley, 280 F. Supp. 968 (N.D. 111. 1968) 8, 24 Maryland Casualty Co. v. Pacific Coal and Oil Co., 312 U.S. 270 (1941) .......................................................... 22 NAACP v. Alabama, 377 U.S. 288 (1964) ................... 10 NAACP v. Button, 371 U.S. 415 (1963) . . 12,16, 20, 21 National Student Association v. Hershey, 412 F.2d 1103 (D.C. Cir. 1969) ................................................. 20 Soglin v. Kauffman, 418 F.2d 163 (7th Cir. 1969) ....... 24 Terminiello v. Chicago, 337 U.S. 1 (1949) 9,11 Thornhill v. Alabama, 310 U.S. 88 (1940) ................. 13 Zwichler v. Koota, 389 U.S. 241 (1967) ....... 2, 21, 23, 24 Zwichler v. Boll, 391 U.S. 353 (1968) ........................ 12 Statutes P age 28 U.S.C. §1253 ............................................................... 2 28 U.S.C. §1343(3) ......................................................... 2,6 28 U.S.C. §2201 ............................................................... 6 28 U.S.C. §2281 ............................................................... 2, 6 42 U.S.C. §1983 ............................................................... 2,6 Mass. G. L. c. 266, §120.............................................. 6,18 Mass. G. L. e. 272, §53 ........................................... passim Index m Other Authorisation P age Note, Declaratory Relief in the Criminal Law, 80 Harv. L. Rev. 1490 (1967) ................................................... 22 Note, The First Amendment Overbreadth Doctrine, 83 Harv. L. Rev. 844 (1970) 12, 13, 15, 22 President’s Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice, Task Force Report, The Courts (1967) ........................................................ 13,14 Jn (Unitrt of tit? litnit?b ^tat?o October T erm , 1969 No. ANN MARIE LE CLAIR, MARY LINDA LUSK, RUTH VADNEY, JILL WATTS, WILLIAM PASTREICH, NATIONAL WELFARE RIGHTS ORGANIZATION, MASSACHUSETTS WELFARE RIGHTS ORGANIZA TION,WORCESTER WELFARE RIGHTS ORGANIZA TION, individually and on behalf of other persons similarly situated, APPELLANTS, V. GEORGE D. O’NEIL, Chief of Police of the City of Worcester, WILLIAM T. BUCKLEY, District Attorney for the City of Worcester, ROBERT H. QUINN, Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, JOHN P. GUILFOIL, Director of the Worcester Welfare Service Office, ROBERT OTT, Commissioner of Welfare for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, individually and in their official capacities, APPELLEES. ON APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS JURISDICTIONAL STATEMENT Opinion Below The opinion of the court below is as yet unreported and is set forth in the Appendix, p. la, infra.. 2 Jurisdiction Jurisdiction of this Court is invoked pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §1253 to review the district court’s denial of in junctive and declaratory relief and dismissal of appellants’ complaint. The district court was composed of three judges, as required by 28 U.S.C. §2281, to hear appellants’ prayers for interlocutory and permanent injunctions re straining enforcement of a portion of a Massachusetts statute, Mass. 6.L. c. 272, §53, on grounds of its federal unconstitutionality. Original jurisdiction of the suit, authorized by 42 U.S.C. §1983, was conferred on the dis trict court by 28 U.S.C. §1343 (3). The judgment of the court below was entered December 31, 1969 and is set forth in the Appendix, p. 10a, infra. Timely notice of appeal to this Court was filed January 26, 1970. Cases supporting this Court’s jurisdiction are Zmckler v. Koota, 389 U.S. 241 (1967) ; and Cameron v. Johnson, 390 U.S. 611 (1968). Statute Involved This case involves the federal constitutionality of so much of Mass. G.L. e. 272, §53, as proscribes “ disturbers of the peace.” §53 provides: Stubborn children, runaways, common night walkers, both male and female, common railers and brawlers, persons who with offensive and disorderly act or language accost or annoy persons of the opposite sex, lewd, wanton and lascivious persons in speech or behavior, idle and disorderly persons, prostitutes, disturbers of the peace, keepers of noisy and disorder ly houses and persons guilty of indecent exposure may be punished by imprisonment in a jail or house 3 of correction for not more than six months, or by a fine of not more than two hundred dollars, or by both such fine and imprisonment. Question Presented Does the decision below, barring federal plaintiffs threatened with repeated arrest and prosecution under a hopelessly vague and overbroad state penal statute from seeking a declaratory judgment concerning its federal constitutionality, wTrongly abnegate the federal judicial power, enforced by controlling decisions of this Court, to protect First Amendment freedoms from such statutes'! Statement of the Case This is an appeal from an order of the United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts dismissing appellants’ complaint seeking 1) declaratory relief invali dating so much of Mass. G.L. c. 272, §53 as proscribes “ dis turbers of the peace” and 2) injunctive relief against its further enforcement against appellants and others simi larly situated. There are two classes of appellants. The first consists of individuals who stand charged under the challenged penal provision.1 The second consists of welfare rights organizations2 to which the individual appellants belong 1 Appellant LeClair is chairman of the Worcester Welfare Rights Organization (WWRO) and a recipient of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). Appellants Vadney, Lusk and Watts are members of the WWRO, and Appellant Pastreich is an organizer for the parent organization, National Welfare Rights Organization. 2 National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO) is a nation wide voluntary association composed of individual members of local affiliated welfare rights organizations, whose members are primarily women receiving AFDC. The goals of NWRO include adequate income for all Americans, dignity, justice and democracy. 4 and which represent the interests of “ needy mothers of dependent children living in Worcester [Massachusetts] who are . . . deterred by fear of arrest and prosecution [under the challenged penal provision] from participating in organizational and other First Amendment activities in the Worcester Welfare Service Office, either as members or prospective members of the [Worcester Welfare Rights Organization] or the other plaintiff organizations, or as nonmembers who seek information and assistance pro vided by plaintiffs’ activities” (Complaint, If IV). The following statement of facts was agreed to by coun sel for appellants and the Attorney General of Massachu setts, and accepted by the court below. On July 3, 1969, at approximately 10:30 a.m., the five To achieve these goals, NWRO distributes information as to the entitlements and rights of recipients of public assistance, provides technical assistance to help organize local welfare rights organiza tions, and serves as a center for cooperation and coordination of the activities of local welfare rights organizations. Appellant Massachusetts Welfare Rights Organization (MWRO) is a branch of NWRO and a voluntary association of more than 2,000 individuals in 23 local organizations throughout the Com monwealth of Massachusetts. Its members are primarily, but not solely, women with minor children receiving AFDC. The chief concerns of the organization are to organize recipients into local welfare rights organizations in order to obtain for each minor child the fullest and most equitable aid to which he is entitled, to publicize and remove the inequities and indignities in the present administration of the welfare law, and to inform recipients of public assistance of their rights and entitlements under present welfare law. Appellant Worcester Welfare Rights Organization (WWRO) is a branch of NWRO and MWRO and a charitable corporation of recipients of public assistance in the City of Worcester, Massa chusetts. Its members are primarily women with minor children receiving AFDC. Its primary concern is to establish and maintain a local welfare rights organization so that recipients in Worcester can obtain for each minor child the fullest and most equitable aid to which he is entitled, to publicize and remove the inequities and indignities in the present administration of the welfare law in Worcester, and to inform recipients in Worcester of their full rights and entitlements under law. 5 individual appellants, together with two other persons not named in this action, entered the waiting room of the Worcester Welfare Service Office, located at 9 Norwich Street in Worcester. The waiting room is a large “ L ’ ’-shaped room which has several chairs placed around its perimeter and is separated from the actual offices and work area of the Welfare Department by a wall. These seven persons set up a folding card table near this wall, between the door to the inner offices and the receptionist’s window, in no one’s way.3 Some of them arranged piles of literature4 on the table and distributed it to those welfare recipients routinely entering the waiting room who came up to the table and requested information. Others affixed small signs to the walls of the waiting room, and one displayed a flag bearing the insignia of the Welfare Rights Organization. During the time these seven persons were in the waiting room, only eight to ten welfare recipients entered, and no more than three or four were present at any one time. After approximately fifteen minutes, an employee of the Welfare Department entered the waiting room from the rear office and asked them to remove the table. When appellants maintained that they needed the table to dis tribute their literature, this employee indicated that they would be arrested if they did not comply with his request. Shortly thereafter, two uniformed officers arrived and re newed the employee’s request. When the table was not removed, appellants were placed under arrest. They went 3 No employees of the Welfare Department work in the waiting room. 4 This literature consisted of copies of the “ Massachusetts Wel fare Rights Handbook” , a manual which employs a simple text, cartoons, and sample request forms explaining' welfare benefits; household supply request forms; and copies of “ Now — Goals of the Welfare Rights Organization” . 6 with the officers quietly and without incident, at about 11:30 a.m. As the court below found, the arrest and prosecution of these appellants was predicated solely upon their in sistence on quietly maintaining the folding card table in a nonobstructive place in the waiting room to facilitate their distribution of welfare rights literature (Appendix pp. 3a- 4a, infra). Nevertheless, in addition to the charge of tres pass lodged against the individual appellants pursuant to Mass. G. L. c. 266, §120,5 they were additionally charged with being “ disturbers of the peace” under Mass. G.L. c. 272, §53. On July 14, 1969, appellants filed their complaint in the court below, pursuant to 42 U.S.C. §1983 and 28 U.S.C. §§1343 (3), 2201 and 2281, seeking a declaratory judgment invalidating the “ disturbers of the peace” law and pre liminary and permanent injunctions restraining appellees’ enforcement of it against the individual appellants and against other members and prospective members of the appellant organizations. Appellants claimed that the “ dis turbers of the peace” law was vague and overbroad. The vagueness claim — that the law “ does not give sufficient notice as to the limits of permissible behavior” -— was stated in the following terms (Complaint, If VI A) : The statute is unclear as to the scope of the limitations which it imposes on plaintiffs’ ability to carry on or ganizational and other First Amendment activities and to petition government officials within a waiting room of a public office, and this vagueness has a chill ing effect on plaintiffs’ exercise of their First Amend ment rights. The statute has not been clarified by any 5 This trespass law had only recently been sustained against fed eral constitutional attack by another three judge panel of the dis trict court. Hurley v. Hinckley, 304 F. Supp. 704 (D. Mass. 1.969), aff’d sub nom. Doyle v. O’Brien, -------U .S .------- , January 12, 1970. 7 decision of the Massachusetts courts, nor is there any readily apparent construction which suggests itself as a vehicle for rehabilitating the vague language of the statute in a single prosecution. The overbreadth claim was stated principally in terms of the repressive effect of the law on persons not yet ar rested or prosecuted under it. These persons — whether members of the appellant organizations who are deterred by the law from engaging in associational or educational activities or nonmembers who are deterred “ from joining by the inhibition of [the individual appellants’ ] rights and are . . . denied access to information which WWRO has sought to make available to them” (Complaint, If VI B) — are in a peculiary vulnerable position as respects the law’s overbroad sweep.6 Appellees moved to dismiss, challenging, inter alia, the standing of the appellant organizations to seek injunctive relief restraining the pending prosecutions against the in dividual appellants. No challenge was raised to the stand ing of any of the appellants to seek declaratory relief in validating the penal provision or to seek injunctive relief restraining its future enforcement. Nevertheless, the court below, ex mero motu, held that neither the individual ap pellants nor the organizational appellants had standing to seek that relief. It reached that result by holding: 1) That the individual appellants had no standing to seek any relief whatever because of the nature of their conduct; and 2) for reasons not clear from its opinion, that “ no valid distinction relating to standing may, in our view, be drawn between the various [appellants] ” (Appendix, p. 2a, infra). Accordingly, it dismissed the complaint. 6 An amended complaint, filed August 2, 1969, challenged the law enforcement officers’ good faith in adding on this second charge to what was no more than a simple trespass case. 8 Believing that this novel restriction on access to the federal courts unjustifiably impedes the protection due freedoms of association and expression and conflicts with controlling decisions of this Court, appellants prosecute the instant appeal. The Federal Question Presented is Substantial The Decision Below Seriously Undermines the Power and Responsibility of the Federal Courts to Protect Citi zens From the Repressive Effects of Vague and Overbroad State Laws Trenching Upon First and Fourteenth Amend ment Rights. Appellants begin with the statute which the decision below insulates from federal constitutional scrutiny. The portion of Mass. G. L. c. 272, §53 proscribing “ disturbers of the peace” is an obviously vague and overbroad penal law burdening freedom of expression. The statute as a whole — “ a charming grabbag of crimi nal prohibitions” 7 — was amended in 1943 to introduce the challenged provision.8 Since then, the provision has received no appellate interpretation. Nor had its common- law antecedents received any very illuminating treatment by the Massachusetts courts. No case in this century has been found which sets forth the elements of the crime. The leading case, now nearly a century old, appears to be Commonwealth v. Oaks, 113 Mass. 8 (1873). There, the defendant was convicted of being a “ disturber of the peace” for shouting in the street. The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts affirmed his conviction, giving the crime the following authoritative interpretation: a “ dis 7 Landry v. Daley, 280 F. Supp. 968, 969 (N.D. Til. 1968). The full text of the statute is set forth at pp. 2-3, supra. 8 St. 1943, e. 377. 9 turber of the peace” is one whose acts “ are of such nature as tend to annoy all good citizens, and do in fact annoy any one present and not favoring them” (113 Mass, at 9). The challenged statutory provision, as thus authorita tively construed, offends numerous decisions of this Court safeguarding freedom of expression from laws such as these, viz., laws “ sweeping in a great variety of conduct under a general and indefinite characterization, and leav ing to the executive and judicial branches too wide a dis cretion in [their] . . . application.” Cantwell v. Connecti cut, 310 U.S. 296, 308 (1941). See also Terminiello v. Chi cago, 337 U.S. 1 (1949); Edwards v. South Carolina, 372 TJ.S. 229 (1963); Cox v. Louisiana, 379 U.S. 536 (1965). In Terminiello, this Court reversed a conviction for dis orderly conduct, obtained after the trial judge’s charge had permitted the jury to convict Terminiello “ if his speech stirred people to anger, invited public dispute or brought about a condition of unrest” (337 U.S. at 5). This Court held that “ a conviction resting upon any of those grounds may not stand” (337) U.S. at 5), stating: [A] function of free speech under our system of government is to invite dispute. It may indeed best serve its high purpose when it induces a condition of unrest, creates dissatisfaction with conditions as they are, or even stirs people to anger. Speech is often provocative and challenging. It may strike at preju dices and preconceptions and have profound unset tling effects as it presses for acceptance of an idea (337 U.S. at 4). Terminiello was followed in Edwards v. South Carolina., supra, in which this Court reversed the breach of the peace convictions of about 200 demonstrators who had marched to the state Capitol in Columbia, South Carolina to petition 10 for redress of racially discriminatory practices. The city manager of Columbia described their conduct as “ bois terous” , “ loud” , and “ flamboyant” , consisting of a “ re ligious harangue” by one of their leaders and the loud singing of patriotic and religious songs, accompanied by the stamping of feet and the clapping of hands (372 U.S. at 233). Their conduct, albeit noisy and some impediment to traffic, was peaceful and non-violent. They were arrested and convicted of common law breach of the peace, a crime “ not susceptible of exact definition” (372 U.S. at 231). This court reversed, holding that the common law crime was too vague and indefinite to permit the punishment of conduct so intimately related to the First Amendment free doms of free speech, peaceable assembly and petition for redress of grievances (372 U.S. at 237-38). Edwards was followed in Cox v. Louisiana, supra, in which this Court invalidated Louisiana’s breach of the peace statute, construed as punishing any act tending “ to agitate, to arouse from a state of repose, to molest, to in terrupt, to hinder, to disquiet.” This Court held: “ [A]s in Terminiello and Edwards, the conviction under this statute must be reversed as the statute is unconstitutional in that it sweeps within its broad scope activities that are constitu tionally protected free speech and assembly” (379 U.S. at 552). Under these decisions, the “ disturbers of the peace” law, making criminality turn on witnesses ’ annoyance, ‘ ‘ in volves calculations as to the boiling point of a particular person or a particular group” (Ashton v. Kentucky, 381 U.S. 195, 200 (1966)) and thus must be condemned for over- breadth. Here as in NAACP v. Alabama, 377 U.S. 288, 307 (1961), in seeking “ to control or prevent activities consti tutionally subject to state regulation” , the law employs “ means which sweep unnecessarily broadly and thereby invade the areas of protected freedoms” . 11 But the court below refused to invalidate this law, hold ing that none of the appellants had standing to seek a de claratory judgment invalidating it. There were essentially three components of that decision : 1) The court below held that that the challenged pro vision was “ general, and not specifically directed against speech” as distinguished from statutes “ in terms. . .over- broadly directed against speech,” (Appendix, pp. 7a-8a, infra) ; 2) The court below held that the individual appellants were guilty of “ hard-core conduct” and thus were de barred from seeking federal declaratory or injunctive relief; and 3) The court below held that the appellant organiza tions had no greater claim than the individual appellants to standing to seek federal declaratory or injunctive relief. A. The court’s distinction between statutes “ in terms . . .overbroadly directed against speech” and “ general” statutes “ not specifically directed against speech” (Ap pendix, pp. 7a.-8a, infra) cannot save the challenged provi sion. Neither in Cantwell nor Terminiello nor Edwards nor Cox was the penal provision “ in terms” directed against freedom of expression. In Cox, for example, the statute was generally phrased in terms of any act which produced the proscribed result of arousing, molesting, disquieting, etc. Nevertheless, it was struck down because of its sus ceptibility to infringe First Amendment rights. The distinction drawn below betrays a misunderstand ing of the rationale of this Court’s overbreadth decisions. These decisions do not depend upon the circumstances that a statute is “ in terms” overbroadly directed against speech. Rather, they are concerned with any statute whose sphere of operation includes and overreaches constitution ally protected speech, and which — through lack of the 12 “ narrow specificity” required of regulations that operate in this area — is “ susceptible of sweeping and improper application.” NAACP v. Button, 371 U.S. 415, 432-433 (1963). This rationale was stated with clarity in Button, supra, 371 U.S. at 432-33: [I]n appraising a statute’s inhibitory effect upon. . . rights [of free expression], this Court has not hesi tated to take into account possible applications of the statute in other factual contexts besides that at bar . . .The objectionable quality of vagueness and over breadth does not depend upon absence of fair notice to a criminally accused or upon unchannelled delega tion of legislative powers, but upon the danger of tolerating, in the area of First Amendment freedoms, the existence of a penal statute susceptible of sweep ing and improper application. . . .Because First Amendment freedoms need breathing space to sur vive, government may regulate in the area only with narrow specificity. To require that a statute be directed “ in terms” against speech is to ignore the fact that many statutes which are susceptible of sweeping and improper application trench ing upon freedom of expression are so hopelessly vague — like this one — that it is impossible to discern what, if any thing, they are directed against.9 9 It is discernible that ‘ ‘ such statutes historically have been used in reprisal against unpopular groups or persons who espouse unpopular causes. Cf. Brown v. Louisiana, 383 U.S. 131; Cox v. Louisiana, 379 U.S. 536; Taylor v. Louisiana, 370 U.S. 154; Gar ner v. Louisiana, 368 U.S. 157.” Zwicker v. Boll, 391 U.S. 353, 354 (1968) (dissenting opinion of Mr. Justice Douglas). See also Note. The First Amendment Overbreadth Doctrine, 83 Harv. L. Rev. 844, 861, n. 67 (1970) : The distinction between “ by terms” and “ general” laws is highly formalistic and rather elusive. How, for example, 13 The doctrines of vagueness and overbreadth are not un related, for both respond to sweeping state regulations that have the vice of leaving too much discretion in the control of expression to the police, prosecutors and the courts. The mere presence of such statutes on the books — their “ existence” (NAACP v. Button, supra, 371 IT.S. at 433) — has a tendency to frighten off free expression by requiring the citizen to steer far clear of the danger zone. See, e. g., Thornhill v. Alabama, 310 U.S. 88, 97-98 (1940) ; Baggett v. Bullitt, 377 U.S. 360, 378-79 (1964); Dombrow- ski v. Pfister, 380 IT.S. 479, 494 (1965). Finally, such laws raise a threat to the very principle of legality itself. [UJnder our democratic system of government, law making is not entrusted to the moment-to-moment judgment of the policeman on his beat.......... To let a policeman’s command become equivalent to a criminal statute comes dangerously near making our govern ment one of men rather than of laws. . .There are ample ways to protect the domestic tranquility with out subjecting First Amendment freedoms to such a clumsy and unwieldy weapon (Gregory v. Chicago, 394 IT.S. I ll , 120-21 (1969) (concurring opinion of Mr. Justice Black)). The disadvantages to the community of tolerating these laws on the books have long been recognized by legal schol ars; only recently they were reiterated by the President’s Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice in its Task Force Report, The Courts, pages 103-04 (1967); should laws punishing improper solictitation of legal busi ness be categorized? Cf. NAACP v. Button, 371 U.S. 415 (1963) (barratry law as construed held void for overbreadth). 14 Foremost among its disadvantages is that it consti tutes an abandonment of the basic principle upon which the whole system of criminal justice in a demo cratic community rests, close control over exercise of the authority delegated to officials to employ force and coercion. This control is to be found in carefully de fined laws and in judicial and administrative account ability. The looseness of the laws constitutes a charter of authority on the street whenever the police deem it desirable. The practical costs of this departure from principle are significant. One of its consequences is to communicate to the people who tend to be the object of these laws the idea that law enforcement is not a regularized, authoritative procedure, but largely a matter of arbitrary behavior by the authorities. The application of these laws often tends to discriminate against the poor and subcultural groups in the popu lation. It is unjust to structure law enforcement in such a way that poverty itself becomes a crime. And it is costly for society when the law arouses the feel ings associated with these laws in the ghetto, a sense of persecution and helplessness before official power and hostility to police and other authority that may tend to generate the very conditions of criminality society is seeking to extirpate. B. The high social and legal cost that attends the ex istence of these laws requires a more effective judicial remedy than mere reversal of criminal convictions arising 15 under them: they must be expunged altogether.10 This court has plainly recognized that point by relaxing tradi tional rules of standing in cases where such laws are chal lenged under the First Amendment. We must be quick to concede with the court below that “ [t]he extent of accept able relaxation has never been precisely defined” (Appen dix, p. 7a, infra). Nevertheless, the Court has insisted that standing doctrines be adapted to favor challenges to vague and overbroad statutes that may jeopardize First Amend ment freedoms. We have consistently allowed attacks on overly broad statutes with no requirement that the person making the attack demonstrate that his own conduct could not be regulated by a statute drawn with the requisite narrow specificity . . . By permitting determination of the invalidity of these statutes without regard to the permissibility of some regulation on the facts of par ticular cases, we have, in effect, avoided making vin dication of freedom of expression await the outcome of protracted litigation (Dombrowski v. Pfister, 380 U.8. 479, 486-87 (1965)). 10 See Note, The First Amendment Overbreadth Doctrine, 83 Harv. L. Rev. 844, 874-75 (1970) : [W]hen analysis . . . is focused on the judicial process neces sary to cure either statutory vagueness or statutory over breadth, the two constitutional vices appear in practice to merge. If a vague statute is not held bad on its face, it is re mitted to a process of hammering out the limits of interven tion under the impact of particular fact situations in the expectation that over time a core of definite coverage will take shape by accretion. But a prolonged and costly process of bringing clarity to statutory commands, like the uncertain process of case by case excision, holds preferred freedoms in abeyance for an indefinite period and tolerates the intimida tion of protected activity caused by a law whose (literal or permissible) scope is uncertain. Thus the doctrines of vague ness and overbreadth supply identical considerations militat ing against piecemeal judicial rehabilitation of statutes when preferred rights are at stake 16 But what the court below has done is to turn this Court’s doctrine on its head: it has specifically required of the in dividual appellants that they demonstrate that their own conduct could not be regulated by a more narrowly drawn statute. It has refused “ to take into account possible ap plications of the statute in other factual contexts besides that at bar” (NAACP v. Button, supra, 371 U.S. at 432). It has refused to recognize that the statute “ may be invalid if it prohibits privileged exercises of First Amendment rights whether or not the record discloses that the [indi vidual appellants have] engaged in privileged conduct” {ibid.). The court below reached this wrong result by asking the wrong threshold question. It posed this question as “ whether plaintiffs had a constitutional right to erect a table in the waiting room in connection with their distrib uting literature and their efforts to organize welfare recipi ents” (Appendix, p. 4a, infra). It held that they did not, and then refused to allow them “ to argue that in factual situ ations not presented by [this] case enforcement of the statute would pass the bounds of state power” (Appendix, p. 5a, infra). We may assume, for purposes of this case, that appel lants did not have “ a constitutional right” to erect their table to distribute literature immune against regulation or even prohibition under a narrowly drawn statute such as a trespass law.11 But neither did the protestors in, say, Cantwell or Edivards have “ a constitutional right” to en gage in their activities immune against all manner of crim inal sanctions, however narrowly drawn. In Edwards, this 11 The individual appellants have been convicted of trespass, and we may assume for purposes of this decision that this narrowly drawn penal provision passes constitutional muster and may be constitutionally applied to their activities. See Hurley v. Hinckley, 304 F. Supp. 704 (D. Mass. 1969) (3 judge court) aff’d sub noun. Doyle v. O’Brien, —— U .S .-----38 U.S. L.W. 3253, January 12, 1970. 17 Court distinguished the case before it from one involving “ the evenhanded application of a precise and narrowly drawn regulatory statute evincing a legislative judgment that certain specific conduct be limited or proscribed. If, for example, the petitioners had been convicted upon evi dence that they had violated a law regulating traffic, or had disobeyed a law reasonably limiting the periods during which the State House grounds were open to the public, this would be a different case. See Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296, 307-08. . .; Garner v. Louisiana, 368 U.S. 157, 207 . . . (concurring opinion) ” 12 But the individual appellants do have “ a constitutional right” not to be additionally subjected to an amorphous criminal prohibition like “ disturbers of the peace.” More than that, they have a right under controlling decisions of this Court to seek to invalidate that vague and overbroad law. And quite apart from the matter of the standing of the individual appellants to do so, the appellant organiza tions have standing to seek the latter relief. C. Although the court below should have taken into account “ possible applications of the statute in other fac tual contexts besides that at bar” , the law’s application even in this context reveals its susceptibility to abuse. The gravamen of the charge against the individual appellants is simply that they quietly set up a folding card table against one wall of the welfare office waiting room in order to facilitate their distribution of welfare rights literature (see Appendix, pp. 3a.-4a, infra). For this, they were ar rested, charged with and convicted of trespass — properly, we assume, see note 11, supra. 12 Mr. Justice Harlan’s concurring opinion in Garner stressed that the vagueness and overbreadth doctrines “ demand of the state legislature that it focus on the nature of the otherwise “ pro tected” conduct it is prohibting, and that it then make a legislative judgment as to whether that conduct presents so clear and present a danger to the welfare of the community that it may legitimately be criminally proscribed” . (368 U.S. at 203). 18 But in addition to this charge, the appellee officers lodged a second, more serious,13 charge against the individual ap pellants. It is hard to escape the conclusion that this second charge — of being “ disturbers of the peace” — added nothing to the first but a broad, drastic, efficacious damper upon unpopular expression. One might well question the good faith of the officers in invoking, cumulatively, this second vague, menacing charge.14 But proving the officers’ bad faith would be a different matter for, under this Court’s decision in Cameron v7. Johnson, 390 U.S. 611, 621 (1968), the individual appellants would have to show that the officers added on the second charge against them “ with no expectation of convictions.” The very impossibility of such a showing points up the repressive potential of the charge and the statute on which it rests. “ Disturbers of the peace” is so vague and over broad a penal provision that conviction under it would in variably be possible. All that police officers or welfare offi cials are required to do in order to make out a case against the individual appellants is to testify that they were an noyed by and did not favor their demonstration (See pp. 8-9, supra,).15 13 Trespass carried only a small maximum fine at the time, where as the “ disturbers of the peace” provision carries a maximum penalty of six months in jail and a $200 fine (see Appendix, p. 2a, infra). 14 See appellants’ amended complaint, discussed, supra, at note 6. 15 Subsequent to the decision below, on February 17, 1970, four of the five individual appellants were tried in Worcester’s no-record court. That court refused to entertain these appellants’ federal constitutional claims, ruling that they were in the exclusive pro vince of higher courts. Simply upon the testimony of a welfare official that the quiet presence of these appellants disturbed the decorum of the welfare office by attracting the attention of his subordinates, three of these appellants (LeClair, Lusk and Pas- treich) were convicted. They have claimed an appeal to the crim inal court of record for a trial de novo. The fourth appellant — Jill Watts — was acquitted on precisely the same testimony. 19 And that same kind of testimony could lead to the arrest, prosecution and conviction of the individual appellants or of other members or prospective members of the organiza tional appellants were they to engage in any of a range of associational and educational activities in connection with their welfare rights campaign. For example, that same kind of testimony could lead to their arrest, prose cution and conviction if they were to peacefully and non- obstrucively distribute their literature outside the welfare office.16 That is precisely why the appellant organizations, quite apart from the individual appellants, have standing to raise the possible, mischievous applications of the statute that menace a wide range of their privileged activities. The gravamen of their claim is that needy mothers of de pendent children in Worcester, Massachusetts, who have not been arrested or prosecuted “ are deterred by fear of arrest and prosecution [under §53] from participating in organizational and other First Amendment activities in the Worcester Welfare Service Office, either as members or prospective members of the WWRO or the other [ap pellant] organizations, or as nonmembers who seek infor mation and assistance provided by appellants’ activities.” (Complaint, U IV). Moreover those persons “ who are not members of a welfare rights organization are being restrained from joining by the inhibition of [appellants’] rights, and are also being denied access to information which WWRO has sought to make available to them” (Complaint, 1J VI B). In dismissing the complaint on the papers, the court below could not have treated these allegations as frivolous 16 “ It is no answer to say that the statute would not be applied in such a case.” (Keyishian v. Board of Regents, 385 II.S. 589, 599 (1967)), for as long as the possibility exists, the statute poses a danger to First Amendment freedoms, see Part A, supra. 20 in law or in fact; indeed, the application of the ‘ ‘ disturb ers of the peace” provision by the Worcester police seems to have triggered its subsequent use by four other police departments against persons connected with the Massachu setts Welfare Rights Organization. Decisions of this Court make clear that these organi zations have standing to assert the constitutional rights of their members, prospective members and those they seek to serve. See NAACP v. Button, supra, 371 U.S. at 428.17 See also National Student Association v. Hershey, 412 F.2d 1103, 1120-21 (D.C. Cir. 1969). The practical rea son why the appellant organizations have standing to challenge the law is simply that they are in the best posi tion to demonstrate the drastic damper that the law im poses on the whole range of their associational and educa tional activities. Prosecution or conviction under this law does not constitute the central threat to these activities. Rather, the central threat is posed by the law’s potential and actual use to terminate expression through police ac tion. As far as the First Amendment is concerned, the damage is done when the expression is terminated. This is so for the obvious reason that expression de signed to protest social ills or to stimulate social change must be timely to be effective. Activities such as appel lants’ must be carried on while the political and social is sues they address are alive and the authorities and the public are sensitive to them. If peaceful change through political persuasion is to remain a possibility in our so ciety, a minority’s capacity to carry its just moral claims to the public must not be crippled. Arrest, without more, has that crippling effect. 17 The similarity of appellants’ nascent associational activities to those of labor or civil rights groups is striking, but need not be pursued at length here. 21 If the police can terminate privileged activities and ar rest the persons involved, First Amendment rights mean little. Of course, those arrested may interpose the First Amendment as a defense: their prosecutions may later be dropped; they may be acquitted; or they may have their convictions reversed on appeal. But the damage will have been done; their privileged activities will have been ter minated and their communication frustrated at the only time when it was meaningful. It is in this intensely prac tical sense that freedoms of association and expression “ are delicate and vulnerable, as well as supremely precious in our society.” NAACP v. Button, supra, 371 IT.S. at 433. If First Amendment freedoms are to be real and not merely academic, they must encompass the right to engage in the protected activity itself: they must protect mem bers and sympathizers of the appellant organizations from arrest and other police interference. That protection can only be amply afforded by striking at the source of the overhanging threat — the illegal laws themselves, which grant to the police censorial discretion over the citizen’s fundamental freedoms. This Court’s observation in Bag gett v. Bullitt, 377 U.S. 360, 373 (1964) is squarely in point: “ Well-intentioned prosecutors and judicials safe guards do not neutralize the vice of a vague law. ’ ’ D. This Court has repeatedly reaffirmed the protective jurisdiction of the federal courts to provide declaratory relief invalidating just such laws. In ZwicMer v. Koota, (ZwicMer 1), 389 U.S. 241 (1967), the Court reaffirmed the primary role of the federal judiciary in deciding questions of federal law, particularly questions concerning the con stitutionality of a state statute on its face for repugnancy to the First Amendment. “ In such case to force the plain tiff who has commenced a federal action to suffer the delay of state court proceedings might itself effect the imper missible chilling of the very constitutional right he seeks 22 to protect.” (389 TT.S. at 252). Accord, Cameron v. John son, 390II.S. 611, 615 (1968). Of course, not everyone has standing to challenge such a statute, even though society’s stake in its invalidation is large. Thus, this Court has required that the issue of the statute’s validity be more than just an abstract question: it “ must be presented in the context of a specific live griev ance.” Golden v. Zwickler (Zwickler II), 394 U.S. 103, 110 (1969).18 But this requirement is nothing more than the basic notion of justiciability, enunciated in Maryland Cas ualty Go. v. Pacific Coal and Oil Co., 312 U.S. 270, 273 (1941) as: Basically the question in each case is whether the facts alleged, under all the circumstances, show that there is a substantial controversy, between parties having adverse legal interests, of sufficient immediacy and reality to warrant the issuance of a declaratory judg ment. The present case plainly meets that test, for we take it to be indisputable that there is a real, substantial and im mediate controversy between the parties as to the validity of the “ disturbers of the peace” provision.19 The court below found nothing to the contrary. But it proceeded to introduce a new, more restrictive test phrased in terms of standing — a test which it thought justified by certain 18“ [T]he standing objection survives to protect court and prosecutor from idle litigation from the unharmed, merely curious or truculent citizen. ” Note, Declaratory Belief in the Criminal Law, 80 Harv. L. Rev. 1490, 1509 (1967). 19 See Note, The First Amendment Overbreadth Doctrine, 83 Harv. L. Rev. 844, 909 (1970), which argues that “ a party’s ‘ standing ’ to assert overbreadth should be dependent on the same factors which determine whether the challenged statute should be invalidated on its face or not. ’ ’ passing references of this Court to the term “ hard-core conduct” .20 Appellants do not doubt or deny the validity of some such restriction upon justiciability (or standing) as is ex pressed by the “ hard-core” concept. We may assume that if the individual appellants had thrown their card table or their literature about the welfare office a different case would be presented from the case at bar. This would be so, simply, because the application of the “ disturbers” stat ute to extreme conduct of that sort could not possibly signal any overhanging threat of the law’s use within the scope of First Amendment concern. But if the phrase “ hard core conduct” has—as we think it does—the utility of making this point, it also has considerable ambiguity. Misunderstood and extravagantly employed as it was be low, the “ hard-core” notion trenches deeply on the con trolling, protective decisions of this Court discussed in parts B and C, supra. So used, it threatens broadside abridgement of vital procedural safeguards devised by the court to protect First Amendment freedoms from the destructive impact of vague and overbroad penal provi sions such as that under attack here. The subversive effect of this novel limitation of the federal protective jurisdiction is nicely illustrated by ap plying the reasoning of the court below to ZwicMer I. Un der the “ hard-core” test of standing used below, Zwickler would have been forclosed from seeking declaratory relief against the anonymous handbill statute if, for example, he had also engaged in conduct justifying a charge of littering. He would thereby have been guilty of “ hard core conduct” within the lexicon of the court below: i.e., conduct which could be reached by a law drawn with the “ requisite narrow specificity” (Bombrowski, supra, 380 20 See Bombrowski v. Pfister, supra, 380 U.S. at 491-92; Brown v. Louisiana, 383 U.S. 131, 142 (1966) (concurring opinion). 24 U.S. at 486). Accordingly lie would have been denied standing to challenge even a statute not so drawn. But in ZwicJcler I, there was no inquiry by this Court as to whether Zwickler’s activities might have been regu lated by a more narrowly drawn statute. Indeed, in the subsequent case of Cameron v. Johnson, supra, the Court upheld a challenged statute, together with the appellants’ standing to challenge it, while at the same time implying that that very statute could validly be applied to their ac tivities. The court below conceded (Appendix, p. 8a, supra) that its decision brought it into conflict with numerous deci sions of other lower federal courts. See, e.g., Baker v. Bind- ner, 274 F. Supp. 658 (W.D. Ky. 1967) (3-judge court) ; Carmichael v. Allen, 267 F. Supp. 985 (N.D. Ca. 1966) (3-judge Court); Lanclry v. Daley, 280 F. Supp. 968 (N.D. 111. 1968). The conflict is real indeed, generated by those courts’ firm adherence to the controlling decisions of this Court previously cited. And recently the Court of Ap peals for the Seventh Circuit decisively rejected an at tempt to give the “ hard-core doctrine” the interpretation adopted by the court below. Soglin v. Kauffman, 418 F.2d 163, 166 (7th Cir. 1969). The court below offered no considerations of policy to justify its extension of the “ hard-core” concept so as to undercut such decisions of this Court as ZwicMer I, nor did it appear to recognize the mischievous effect its ruling would have upon the federal protective jurisdiction that is indispensable to safeguard First Amendment freedoms against vague and overbroad state penal laws. Indeed the principal effect of the ruling below is to “ only delay the drafting and enactment of [a statute] which in a con stitutional manner wouuld protect legitimate regulation of the activities here involved.” Guyot v. Pierce, 372 F.2d 25 658, 663 (5th Cir. 1967).21 The decision below is unsup ported by reason or policy, destructive of vital First Amendment safeguards, and in conflict, with controlling decisions of this Court. It urgently requires correction by this Court. Conclusion For the foregoing reasons, appellants pray that prob able jurisdiction be noted. Respectfully submitted, M elvyn Z arr A llay Gf. R odgers L awrence K otin B arbara S chwartzbaum 80 Boylston Street Boston, Massachusetts 02116 Attorneys for Appellants Of Counsel: A nthony Gf. A msterdam S tephen B ardige A ndrew L. P hilip 21 Indeed, in Hurley v. Hinckley, supra, noted in the decision below, Appendix, p. 2a, infra, another three-judge panel of the Massachusetts District Court reached and decided the question of the validity of the Massachusetts trespass statute, in a suit brought by welfare rights demonstrators charged for activities much more instrusive upon the routine of the welfare office than those of the individual appellants here. The district court held the statute constitutional and this Court summarily affirmed, Doyle v. O’Brien, —— U .S .------ , January 12, 1970. la APPENDIX Opinion of the United States District Court For the District of Massachusetts Civil Action No. 69-748-J U nited S tates D istrict Court D istrict op Massachusetts A nn M arie L eClair, M ary L inda L usk , R uth Y adney, ■Jill W atts, W illiam P astreich, National W elfare R ights Organization, M assachusetts W elfare R ights Organization, W orcester W elfare R ights Organization, individually and on behalf of other persons similarly situated, v. George D. O ’Neil, Chief of Police of the City of Worcester, W illiam T. B uckley', District Attorney for the City of Worcester, R obert H. Qu in n , Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, J ohn P. Guilfoil, Di rector of the Worcester Welfare Service Office, R obert Ott , Commissioner of Welfare for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, individually and in their official capacities, DEFENDANTS. Before A ldrich, Circuit Judge, J ulian and Garrity, District Judges. OPINION December 23, 1969 A ldrich , Circuit Judge. Before isolating the ques tions of standing which we find determinative of this case in which three judges in the District of Massachusetts are asked to consider the constitutionality of a Massachusetts disturbing-the-peace statute, a detailed statement of the facts and background would be appropriate. 2a On June 20, 1969 another panel of three judges sitting in this district in the ease of Hurley v. Hinckley, Chief of Police, 304 F. Supp. 704, a class suit brought by and on behalf of plaintiffs similar to those presently at bar, held that Mass. Gr.L. c. 266, § 120, a criminal trespass statute, hereafter § 120, did not violate due process because of vagueness and overbreadth, or unconstitutionally limit the plaintiffs’ First Amendment rights sought to be exer cised in a Welfare Service Office. On July 3, 1969 the pres ent plaintiffs engaged in activities more fully described hereafter, in another Welfare Service Office, and refused to desist from certain conduct until the police were called. On July 5 they were charged in a local court with trespass under § 120, and with being “ distributors of the peace,” under Mass, Gr.L. c. 272, § 53.1 Section 53 carries a maxi mum penalty of six montlis in jail, and a $200 fine where as 4 120 carries only a small fine. Trial was set for both sets of cases on July 17. On July 14 plaintiffs filed the present complaint. The defendants moved to dismiss,2 but stipulated that the prose cution under § 53 would be postponed until further notice. After the three-judge court was constituted defendants were temporarily restrained from prosecuting the § 53 1 “ Stubborn children, runaways, common night walkers, both male and female, common railers and brawlers, persons who with offensive and disorderly act or language accost or annoy persons of the opposite sex, lewd, wanton and lascivious persons in speech or behavior, idle and disorderly persons, prostitutes, disturbers of the peace, keepers of noisy and disorderly houses and persons guilty of indecent exposure may be punished by imprisonment in a jail or house of correction for not more than six months, or by a fine of not more that two hundred dollars, or by both such fine and imprisonment.” 2 While defendants ’ motion to dismiss challenges the standing only of plaintiffs not being prosecuted in the state court, the argu ment at the hearing encompassed all plaintiffs. As explained infra, no valid distinction relating to standing may, in our view, be drawn between the various plaintiffs. 3a actions until further order of court, and after hearing, a temporary injunction was entered to the same effect. On this same day the court heard defendants’ motion to dis miss. Meanwhile, plaintiffs had been convicted of tres pass under § 120, from which they have claimed an appeal. The complaint alleges that four of the plaintiffs are members of the Worcester (Massachusetts) Welfare Rights Organization, (WWRO), a branch of geographically larger organizations, and that one is a Worcester recipient of Aid to Families with Dependent Children. The fifth plain tiff, William Pastreich, is a paid organizer. The defend ants are the Worcester Chief of Police, the District Attor ney, the Attorney General and various Welfare officials. Plaintiffs assert that, they bring this action on behalf of themselves and “ needy mothers of dependent children liv ing in Worcester who are threatened and intimidated by the arrest and prosecution of the above-named plaintiffs and who are deterred by fear of arrest and prosecution from participating in organizational and other First Amendment activities in the Worcester Welfare Service Office.” According to the complaint the five plaintiffs, and two others, entered the waiting room of the Worcester Welfare Office, hung up some signs, and distributed circulars. In the wall between the waiting room and the inner office where applicants were processed there was a receptionist’s window. Plaintiffs set up a folding card table near this wall. Plaintiffs created no other disturbance, but refused requests to remove the table until the police arrived.3 The prosecution which plaintiffs seek to enjoin relates 3 Other facts, of no relevancy, are omitted. Considerable space was spent in the record and at the argument over plaintiffs’ as sertion that before they arrived they had received permission to erect the table. Not only did defendants deny this, but plaintiffs ultimately conceded, as they must, that any permission was duly revoked and that their conduct continued nonetheless. 4a solely to plaintiffs’ insistence on maintaining the table; no other strictures were placed upon them. They were not requested to leave, either before or after they set up the table, or to reduce their number, or to desist from assembling or organizing, to take down their signs or to stop distributing their circulars. Additionally, the com plaint refers to plaintiffs’ right to “ petition.” There are no factual allegations that they were seeking to peti tion, let alone that they were prevented from doing so. Turning to the question whether plaintiffs have standing to maintain the present action, plaintiffs base their claim on the contention that they are seeking to vindicate First Amendment rights. Even if freedom to exercise these rights exists within the Welfare Office, which, for present purposes, we assume, plaintiffs face substantial difficulties. These may be divided into two basic questions: whether plaintiffs had a constitutional right to erect a table in the waiting room in connection with their distributing litera ture and their efforts to organize welfare recipients, and whether, if they did not, they had standing to protect the future exercise of rights from “ chills” resulting from the use of a potentially broad statute against persons claim ing and exercising First Amendment rights.4 4 There is still further matter, whether since the state proceed ings had previously commenced, plaintiffs are precluded from maintaining this action by reason of 28 U.S.C. § 2283. We do not reach that question. See Baines v. City of Danville, 4 Cir., 1964, 337 F.2d 579, cert, denied sub nom. Chase v. McCain, 1965, 381 U.S. 939; Cooper v. Hutchinson, 3 Cir., 1950, 184 F.2d 119, 124 and n. 11; Landry v. Daley, N.D. 111., 1968, 288 F. Supp. 200, 221- 25, appeal dismissed sub. nom. Landry v. Boyle, 393 U.S. 220. Comment, Federal Injunctions Against State Actions, 35 Geo. Wash. L. Rev. 744, 782 (1967) ; Note, Power to Enjoin State Prosecutions Violative of Federally Protected Rights, 114 TJ. Pa. L. Rev. 561 (1966) ; Brewer, Dombroski v. Pfister: Federal In junctions Against State Prosecutions in Civil Rights Cases — A New Trend in Federal-States Judicial Relations, 34 Fordham L. Rev. 71, 97-103; Note, Incompatibility — The Touchstone of Sec tion 2283’s Express Authorization Exception, 50 U. Va. L. Rev. 1404, 1414-23 (1964). The usual prerequisite for a successful attack upon a statute for constitutional infirmity is that one’s own con duct be constitutionally protected; normally a party may not rely on another’s constitutional rights. United States v. Raines, 1960, 362 TT.S. 17, 21; Yazoo d M.V.R.R. v. Jackson Vinegar Co., 1912, 226 U.S. 217. If a party is prosecuted for engaging in conduct which the state has power to punish he will not normally be allowed to argue that in factual situations not presented by his case enforce ment of the statute would pass the bounds of state power. His is not the most appropriate case for decision of issues turning on the impact of the statute in imagined situations involving quite different activities. See A. Bickel, The Least Dangerous Branch, 149 (1962). If this rule is to be applied in the case at bar we are clear that plaintiffs have no standing. Whatever First Amendment rights existed in the Welfare Office, they could not be exercised at the expense of the primary purpose the office was designed to serve. “ Even where municipal or state property is open to the public generally, the exercise of First Amendment rights may be regulated so as to prevent interference with the use to which the property is ordinarily put by the State.” Food Employees v. Logan Valley Plaza, Inc., 1968, 391 U.S. 308, 320 (dictum). See Note, Regulation of Demon strations, 80 Harv. L. Rev. 1773, 1776-77, (1967). Cf. Adderley v. Florida 1966, 385 U.S. 39; Cox v. New Hamp shire, 1941, 312 U.S. 569. Reasonable latitude must be permitted to the persons in charge. Waiting rooms are not traditional forums of protest, and a high degree of peace and order is necessary to their normal operation. Cf. Note, Regulation of Demonstrations, supra, at 1777. Under these circumstances the only question is whether the welfare officials, in curtailing plaintiffs’ activities, abused their discretion. Massachusetts Welfare Rights Or 6a ganization v. Ott, 1 Cir., 11/6/69; Wolin v. Port of New York Authority, 2 Cir., 1968, 392 F.2d 83, cert, denied, 393 U.S. 940. We cannot say that it was unreasonable to object to the erection of a table within the waiting room. We distinguish the suggestion in Wolin that it may be a question of fact whether it is unreasonable to object to a table in a large terminal building. In the present case quite apart from any question whether the particular lo cation interfered with the privacy of applicants wishing to talk with employees in the inner office, we hold that it was within the discretion of the welfare officials to determine that a table occupied by non-applicants unduly burdened the capacity of a room, necessarily of limited size, provided for waiting applicants. Plaintiffs assert that at the time in question there were never more than four applicants in the room. Non constat that many more might well be expected at other times. Plaintiffs’ own conduct suggests as much. It was scarcely necessary to introduce five plaintiffs and two others to proselytize four applicants.5 In any normal waiting room, such as that described in the complaint, extra furniture has a poten tial for obstruction and officials need not wait until the potential is realized before acting. We conclude that no undue restriction was placed upon plaintiffs’ exercise of First Amendment rights. Because of what is termed the chilling effect of uncon stitutional statutes and prosecutions upon the general 5 Alternatively, the fact that plaintiffs entered the waiting room seven strong to assert a right to maintain a table may suggest that the issue was not simply the table as such, but was who was to be the boss. Additionally, if one were to look to labor union cases as a guide, the table might be taken to suggest that the Welfare officials were taking sides and affirmatively endorsing the re cruitment activities of the WWRO, so that speech was, in effect, being put into their mouths. If this was the confrontation, or the issue, plainly it must be resolved in favor of those in charge of the office. exercise of First Amendment rights by any person wish ing to do so, courts have sometimes relaxed the require ment that the complaining party show that as to him a statute has been applied unconstitutionally, that is, that his conduct was constitutionally privileged and could not be prohibited by the state. See, e.g., Thornhill v. Alabama, 1940, 310 U.S. 88; Winters v. New York, 1948, 333 U.S. 507; Runs v. New York, 1951, 340 U.S. 290. But cf. Feiner v. New York, 1951, 340 U.S. 315; Dennis v. United States, 1951, 341 U.S. 494; United States v. Petrillo, 1947, 332 U.S. 1. The extent of acceptable relaxation has never been pre cisely defined. See generally Sedler, Standing to Assert Constitutional Jus Terti in the Supreme Court, 71 Yale L. J. 599 (1962); Amsterdam, Note, The Void-For-Vague- ness Doctrine in the Supreme Court, 109 U. Pa. L. Rev. 67 (1960). Mr. Justice Brennan, concurring in Brown v. Louisiana, 1966, 383 U.S. 131, 143, expressed the view, at 147-48 that “ It suffices that petitioners’ conduct was arguably constitutionally protected and was ‘ not the sort of ‘ ‘ hard-core ’ ’ conduct that would obviously be prohibited under any construction.’ ” 6 We would elaborate on this suggestion. Since the purpose of permitting a party, not himself engaged in constitutionally protected conduct, to attack a statute is to remove the chilling effect for the benefit of others, the standard should be set by the reason itself: do the overall circumstances reasonably suggest that regardless of whether the plaintiff’s particular conduct was constitutionally privileged, privileged conduct would not be exempted from prosecution? The chilling effect may be found in the fact that the statute in terms is overbroadly directed against speech. 6 The inner quote was from Dombrowski v. Pfister, 1965, 380 U.S. 479, at 491-92, an abstention case. With great, deference, we sug gest the problems of abstention and standing are not necessarily the same. 8a This was the case in, e.g., Thornhill v. Alabama, supra; Winters v. New York, supra. See Sedler; supra, 71 Yale L. J. 599, 614-25 (1962). In such a situation it may well be anticipated that the authorities, so directed, cannot be counted upon to restrict themselves to clearly legitimate prosecutions. If, on the other hand, the statute is general, and not specifically directed against speech, one must look beyond the statute to the circumstances as a whole in order to determine whether other persons, viewing what the authorities have in fact done, might justifiably appre hend that bona fide attempts on their part to exercise First Amendment rights would be likely to be prose cuted.7 In applying this test we do not look at any single mat ter, but at the overall circumstances. So viewing the case at bar, we do not think it could be fairly said that the statute was being employed to inhibit First Amendment rights. Plaintiffs were accorded throughout broad liberties of speech and association. Their presence was not objected to ; their soliciting, their speech, their organizational ac 7 We cannot suggest that the courts have adopted this ap proach. Indeed, one can find a case such as Baker v. Binder, W.D. Ky., 1967, 274 F. Supp. 658, where the court drew no distinction between statutes addressed to speech and statutes addressed to conduct generally, and granted relief after specifically finding that the police had acted in an exemplary fashion under the cir cumstances. The issue of standing was not even considered. A dis senting judge urged that there should be abstention. In other cases disorderly conduct statutes have been declared unconstitu tional on their face without close discussion of the quality of past official conduct. See Landry v. Daley, N.D. 111., 1968, 280 F. Supp. 969 (incorporating by reference 280 F. Supp. 944-52) ; Commer cial v. Allen, N.D. Ga., 1965, 267 F. Supp. 985. On the other hand, some cases could be taken to implicitly indicate that when general statutes are under attack there is no standing to assert the First Amendment rights of others. See United States v. Petrillo, supra; Sedler, supra, 71 Yale L. J. 599, 614-25 (1962). Cf. Feiner v. New York, supra. 9a tivities were not interrupted. The sole stricture was against obstruction of the office. In seeking to analogize Brown v. Louisianna, supra, plaintiffs overlook that the protesters there were arrested and removed for merely being present. Here plaintiffs were asked only to cease the physically obstructing part of their conduct. The authori ties distinguished between permissible, non-disturbing speech, and conduct that they could reasonably feel in terfered with the activities of the office.8 Plaintiffs accordingly fail to fit even a liberal test of standing. Their assertion that their prosecution “ re strained [plaintiffs and others] in the exercise of their right to assemble, organize, distribute literature and peti tion’ ’ and that other persons were “ being denied access to information which WWRO has sought to make avail able to them” are mere conclusions of the pleader, unwar ranted on the record, in fact and in law. Because plaintiffs have not shown a violation of their constitutional rights, the complaint must be dismissed. (s ) B ailey A ldrich B ailey A ldrich U. 8. Circuit Judge (s ) A nthony J ulian A nthony J ulian U. 8. District Judge (s) W . A rthur Garrity, J r. W . A rthur Garrity, J r . U. 8. District Judge 8 For what it is worth we might note that plaintiffs were not automatically proceeded against for disturbing the peace, but were first requested to remove the table, and were given fair warning when they persisted, before the police were called. 10a Judgment of the United States District Court For the District of Massachusetts [Caption Omitted] Before A ldbich, Circuit Judge, and J ulian and G arrity, District Judges. ORDER OF DISMISSAL December 31, 1969 In accordance with the Opinion, handed down on Decem ber 23, 1969, it is Ordered: That the Preliminary Injunction, entered in the above- entitled action on September 15, 1969 be, and it hereby is, dissolved. I t I s F urther Ordered that said Complaint be, and it hereby is, dismissed. (s) B ailey A ldrich B ailey A ldrich U. 8. Circuit Judge (s) A nthony J ulian A nthony J ulian U. S. District Judge (s) W . A rthur Garrity, J r . W . A rthur Garrity, J r . U. S. District Judge