United States v. Montgomery County Board of Education Appendix Vol. 2

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    APPENDIX
VOLUME II

Supreme Court of the United States
O ctober T erm , 1968

Nos. 798, 997

U nited  S tates, 

y s .
Petitioner,

M ontgomery Co u n ty  B oard of E ducation , et ad.

and

A rdam Carr, J r., et  ad.,

vs.
Petitioners,

M ontgomery Co u n ty  B oard of E ducation , e t  ad.

ON WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES 
COURT OF APPEADS FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT

PETITIONS FOR CERTIORARI FILED DECEMBER 4, 1968, 
AND JANUARY 30, 1969 

CERTIORARI GRANTED MARCH 3, 1969



I N D E X

VO LU M E II

Original Print
Order Requiring Defendants to Show Cause filed

April 28, 1967 _____________________________________ 309 367
Opinion in Lee v. Macon County Board of 

Education Annexed to Order to Show Cause 311 369
Order to Adopt Plan for Desegregation filed June

1, 1967 ______________________________________________ 364 444
Desegregation Plan Annexed to Order ______ 365 446
Appendix A — Explanatory L e tte r____________  373 458
Appendix B — Choice Form ____________________  375 460

Amicus Curiae Notice of Motion and Motion for
Further Relief filed August 17, 1967 __________ 376 462

Plaintiffs’ Joining in Motion filed August 30, 1967 379 464
Answer to Motion filed September 1, 1967 _______  380 465

Exhibit “A ”  Annexed ____   383 468
Notice of Taking Discovery Deposition filed Janu­

ary 30, 1968 _________   384 471
Further Answer to Motion filed February 1, 1968 386 472
Amicus Curiae Notice of Motion and Motion for

Further Relief filed February 7, 1968 __________ 389 475
Plaintiffs’ Motion for Further Relief filed Feb­

ruary 9, 1968 ______________________________________  394 479
Stipulation filed February 17, 1968 _________   395 480

Attachment A — Substitute Teacher List _____ 396 481
Memorandum Opinion filed February 24, 1968 __ 404 489

Supplement to Desegregation Plan __________ 413 503
Attachment A — Letter to Students __________ 417 509

W rit of Injunction dated February 24, 1968 _____ 418 511
Notice of Appeal filed February 27, 1968 _______  419 512
Bond for Costs on Appeal filed February 28, 1968 420 513
Motion for Suspension and Stay of Injunction and 

Order During Pendency of Appeal filed Febru­
ary 28, 1968 _______________________________________  421 514

Affidavit in Support of Motion for Stay Pending
Appeal ______________________________________________  423 515

Exhibit 1 Annexed to Affidavit— Notice of
Appeal _________________________________________ 426 518

Exhibit 2 Annexed to Affidavit— Bond for
Costs on Appeal --------------------------------------------  427 519



H INDEX

Original Print
Order Amending Order and Injunction of Febru­

ary 24, 1908 filed March 2, 1968 _______________  428 520
Order filed March 2, 1968 _________________________  430 524
Motion for Leave to Amend Notice of Appeal filed

March 6, 1968 _____________________________________ 437 534
Order Allowing Amendment of Notice of Appeal

filed March 6, 1968 _______________________________  438 535
Amended Notice of Appeal filed March 6, 1968 .. 439 536
Defendants’ Statement of Points filed March 6 ,1968 440 537
Comments at Conclusion of Hearing of May 5, 1965 442 540
Memorandum Transcript— Hearing of May 25,1967 448 547
Transcript of Hearing— September 5, 1967 _______  452 549

Appearances _____________________________________ 452 549
C olloquy__________________________________________ 452 549
Testimony of Walter M c K e e -

direct ________________________  456 552
cross ____________________   472 565
redirect _____________________  479 571
recross _______________________ 482 574

Transcript of Hearing— February 9, 1968 _______  497 584
Appearances _____________________________________ 497 584
C olloquy___________________________________ - _____ 498 585
Testimony of Walter McKee—

direct ________________________  501 588
cross _________________________  545 624

William S. Garrett—
direct ________________________  574 648
cross _________________________  593 663
redirect _____________________  600 669
recross _______________________ 601 671

Jack Rutland—
direct ________________________  602 672
cross _________________________  624 690
redirect _____________________  635 699
recross _______________________ 638 702

W alter James Hughes, Jr.—
direct ________________________  640 703
cross --------------------------------------  644 706



Original Print
Transcript of Hearing— February 9, 1968 

— Continued
Testimony of Charles Lee—

d ir e c t ________________________  646 708
c r o s s _________________________  653 713
r e d ir e c t_____________________  654 714

Walter McKee—
(recalled for defendants)—

direct ________________________  656 716
cross ______________________   659 719
redirect _____________________  661 720

Jim McGregor—
d ir e c t ------------------------------------  663 722
c r o s s _________________________  665 723

Herman L. Scott—
direct ___ ____________________  673 726
c r o s s _________________________  684 735
redirect _____________________  690 740
recross _______________________ 690 740

Order Granting Expedited Hearing filed March 12,
1968 ________________________________________________  698 745

Notice of Cross Appeal by Amicus Curiae filed
April 11, 1968 _____________________________________ 700 747

Argument and Submission ___________________________  703 749
Opinion and Judgment in the United States Court 

of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit dated August 1,
1968 ________________________________________________  704 750

Judgm ent-------------------------------------------------------------- 724 770
Dissenting Opinion of Thornberry, C.J., dated Oc­

tober 21, 1968 ______________________________________  793 771
Opinion on Petitions for Rehearing En Banc dated

November 1, 1968 ___________________________________ 797 775
Order Granting Certiorari --------------------------------------  -----  785

INDEX 111



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Order Requiring Defendants to Show Cause

(Filed April 28, 1967)

I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

The plaintiffs having filed on April 11, 1967, their 
motion asking this Court to modify its decree heretofore 
entered in this case so it will conform with the require­
ments of United States and Linda Stout, et al. v. Jefferson 
County Board of Education, et al., Fifth Circuit No. 23345, 
Dec. 29, 1966 (adopted with modifications by the Court, 
sitting en banc, March 29, 1967), and seeking an order of 
this Court directing the defendants to show cause why 
they should not be required to adopt desegregation plans 
conforming with the standards embodied in United States 
and Linda Stout, et al. v. Jefferson County Board of Educa­
tion, et al., it is the

Order, J udgment and D ecree of this Court that the de­
fendants, Montgomery County Board of Education, James 
W. Rutland, Jr., Fred Bear, George C. Starke, George A. 
Dozier, Dr. J. Edward Walker, Isabelle B. Thomasson and 
Dr. Robert Parker, members of the Montgomery County 
Board of Education, and Walter McKee, Superintendent 
of Education of Montgomery County, Alabama, appear 
before this Court at 9 a.m., May 25, 1967, in the courtroom 
of the United States District Court for this district, to 
show cause, if any they have, why they should not be



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ordered to adopt desegregation plans for the Montgomery 
County, Alabama school system that comply with the stand­
ards embodied in United States and Linda Stout, et al. v.

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Jefferson County Board of Education, et al., and in Ex­
hibit “A ” to this Court’s decree of March 22, 1967 (the 
Court being composed of three judges, one of whom was 
the undersigned), made and entered in Anthony T. Lee, 
et al., Plaintiffs, United States of America, Plaintiff-In- 
tervenor and Amicus Curiae, v. Macon County Board of 
Education, et al., Defendants, Civil Action No. 604-E, and 
why they should not be ordered to put such plans into 
effect in the Montgomery County, Alabama school system, 
commencing with the 1967-68 school year. It is further

Ordered that the United States as amicus curiae, acting 
through its attorneys of record, appear on said date and 
participate in said proceedings to the extent considered 
necessary and appropriate. It is further

Ordered that the Clerk of this Court attach hereto copies 
of the opinion and decree made and entered on March 22, 
1967, in Lee, et al., United States of America v. Macon 
County Board of Education, et al., Civil Action No. 604-E.

Done, this the 28th day of April, 1967.

F r an k  M. J oh nson , J r.
Chief Judge



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OPINION ANNEXED TO ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE

I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or the Middle District of A labama 
E astern Division

Civil A ction No. 604-E

A nthony T. Lee and H enry A. L ee, by Detroit Lee and 
Hattie M. Lee, their parents and next friends; Palmer 
Sullins, Jr., A lan D. Sullins and Marsha Marie Sul- 
lins, by Palmer Sullins and Della D. Sullins, their par­
ents and next friends; Gerald W arren Billes and 
H eloise Elaine Billes, by I. V. Billes, their father and 
next friend; W illie M. Jackson, Jr., by Mabel H. Jack- 
son, his mother and next friend; W illie B. W yatt, Jr., 
and Brenda J. W yatt, by Willie B. Wyatt and Thelma 
A. Wyatt, their parents and next friends; Nelson N. 
Boggan, Jr., by Nelson Boggan, Sr., and Mamie Boggan, 
his parents and next friends; W illie C. Johnson, Jr., 
Brenda F aye Johnson and Dwight W. Johnson, by 
Willie C. Johnson and Ruth Johnson, their parents and 
next friends, and W illiam H. M oore and E dwina M. 
Moore, by L. James Moore and Edna M. Moore, their 
parents and next friends,

Plaintiffs,



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U nited States of A merica,

Plaintiff-Intervenor 
and Amicus Curiae, 

vs.

Macon County Board of Education, Madison Davis, Chair­
man; John M. Davis, B. 0 . Dukes, F. E. Guthrie, and 
F rances (Mrs. J. B.) B ush, and C. A. Pruitt, Super­
intendent of Schools of Macon County, Alabama; L ur- 
leen Burns W allace, in her capacity as Governor of 
the State of Alabama, and as President of Alabama 
State Board of Education; A labama State Board of 
E ducation; E rnest Stone, Secretary and Executive 
Officer of Alabama State Board of Education; James 
D. Nettles, Ed Dannelly, Mrs. Carl Strang, F red L. 
Merrell, W. M. Beck, V ictor P. Poole, W. C. Davis, 
Cecil W ord and H arold C. Martin, as members of 
Alabama State Board of Education,

Defendants.

Before Bives, Circuit Judge, and Grooms and Johnson, 
District Judges.

Per Curiam :

In these supplementary proceedings, this Court is once
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again called upon to consider whether the defendants1 
Lurleen Burns Wallace as Governor of the State of Ala- 1

1 Pursuant to Rule 2 5 (d ), Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, 
this Court on January 23, 1967, ordered that Lurleen Burns 
Wallace in her capacity as Governer of the State of Alabama 
and as President of the Alabama State Board of Education, Ernest 
Stone, Secretary and Executive Officer of the Alabama State Board 
of Education; Ed Dannelly and Mrs. Carl Strang as members of the 
Alabama State Board of Education, be substituted as defendants 
for the named defendants George C. Wallace, Austin R. Meadows, 
J. T. Albritton and J. P. Faulk, Jr., respectively.



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bama and as President of the Alabama State Board of 
Education, Ernest Stone as Secretary and Executive Of­
ficer of the Alabama State Board of Education (some­
times referred to as the State Superintendent of Educa­
tion), and the individual members of the Alabama State 
Board of Education, have continued, and are continuing, 
to use their authority to operate throughout the State of 
Alabama a dual school system based on race.

This Court is also once again called upon to pass upon 
the constitutional validity of a tuition grant law (Title 52, 
§61(8), Code of Alabama) passed by the Legislature of 
the State of Alabama and approved by the Governor on 
September 1, 1965.

I. Procedural History

This action was commenced over four years ago by 
Negro parents of school-age children, against the Macon 
County Board of Education, seeking to desegregate the 
public schools in Macon County, Alabama. In July 1963 
the United States was added as a party and as amicus 
curiae in order that the public interest in the administra­
tion of justice would be represented. After a full hearing, 
this Court in August 1963 made its findings and conclu­
sions and ordered the public schools in Macon County, 
Alabama, desegregated. Anthony T. Lee, et al., Plaintiff, 
United States of America, Plaintiff and Amicus Curiae v. 
Macon County Board of Education, MD Ala., August 22, 
1963, 221 F. Supp. 297. Thereafter, on three separate oc­
casions during the 1963-64 school year, this Court found it 
necessary to enjoin state officials from various forms of 
interference with the peaceful and orderly desegregation of 
schools in Macon County.2

2 United States v. Wallace, 222 F . Supp. 485 (September 1963) ; 
Lee v. Macon County Board of Education, order of February 3, 
1964; United States v. Rea, 231 F. Supp. 772 (February 1964).



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In February 1964 plaintiffs filed a supplemental com­
plaint, adding as defendants George C. Wallace as Presi­
dent of the Alabama State Board of Education, Austin R. 
Meadows, Executive Officer and Secretary of the Alabama 
State Board of Education, and other individual members 
of the State Board of Education. In this supplemental 
complaint the plaintiffs requested this Court (1) to enjoin 
these defendants from operating a dual school system 
based upon race throughout the State of Alabama, (2) to

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enter an order requiring state-wide desegregation of schools 
in the State of Alabama, (3) to enjoin the use of state 
funds to perpetuate the dual school system, and (4) to 
enjoin as unconstitutional the tuition grant law of the 
State of Alabama (Chapter 4B [§§ 61(13) through 61(21)], 
Title 52, Code of Alabama). At this stage of the proceed­
ing, the Chief Judge of the United States Court of Appeals 
for the Fifth Circuit, in response to a request of the 
district judge, constituted a three-judge court pursuant to 
§§ 2281 and 2284, Title 28, United States Code.

After an oral hearing, a review of the evidence and 
arguments of counsel, this Court in July 19643 made its 
findings and conclusions to the effect that there was a 
dual school system based upon race that was maintained 
and operated throughout the State of Alabama and that 
it was the policy of the state and, in particular, the Gov­
ernor, George C. Wallace, as President of the Alabama 
State Board of Education; Austin R. Meadows, Secretary 
and Executive Officer of the Alabama State Board of Edu­
cation, and the individual members of the Alabama State

3 Anthony T. Lee, et al., Plaintiffs, United States of America, 
Plaintiff and Amicus Curiae v. Macon County Board of Education, 
MD Ala., July 13, 1964, 231 P. Supp. 743.



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Board of Education, to promote and encourage the im­
plementation of that racial policy in the operation of the 
Alabama public schools. It was also concluded that Ala­
bama’s tuition grant law was nothing more than a sham 
established for the purpose of financing with state funds a 
white school system in the State of Alabama. Accordingly, 
the defendant state officials were enjoined from:

Interfering with, preventing or obstructing by any 
means, the elimination of racial discrimination by local 
school officials in any school district in the State of 
Alabama;

Approving, authorizing or paying any tuition grant 
or grant-in-aid under the provisions of Chapter 4B 
[Sections 61(13) through 61(21)] of Title 52 of the 
Alabama Code for the attendance of any person in a 
school in which enrollment or attendance is limited 
or restricted upon the basis of race or color;

Failing, in the exercise of its control and supervision 
over the public schools of the State, to use such con­
trol and supervision in such a manner as to promote 
and encourage the elimination of racial discrimination 
in the public schools, rather than to prevent and dis­
courage the elimination of such discrimination.

In August 1966 the United States of America was per­
mitted to file a supplemental complaint in intervention 
wherein the United States as a party attacked the con-

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stitutionality of Alabama’s new tuition grant statute4

4 The 1965-66 tuition grant laws were not in the form of amend­
ments to the old tuition grant statute; instead, they were desig­
nated as § 6 1 (8 ), Title 52, Code of Alabama.



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passed after this Court enjoined, in its order of July 1964, 
the paying of any tuition grant or grant-in-aid under the 
provisions of Chapter 4B, Title 52 of the Alabama Code. 
The complaint in intervention by the United States attacked 
the new statute on the basis that it was for no purpose 
other than to perpetuate racial segregation in the public 
schools of Alabama. This aspect of the case was submitted 
on stipulation and is discussed later in this opinion.

In September 1966 and in November 1966, the plaintiffs 
filed additional supplemental complaints again asking for 
a state-wide desegregation order and an injunction against 
the use of state funds to support a dual school system. Fol­
lowing extensive discovery by all parties, the case was 
heard in November 1966 and is now submitted upon the evi­
dence and the parties’ oral arguments and briefs.

II. Factual History

In the July 1964 order, this Court found that the defen­
dant George C. Wallace, President of the Alabama State 
Board of Education, the State Board of Education, the 
several individual members thereof, and the Secretary and 
Executive Officer of the Alabama Board of Education, 
Austin R. Meadows, had demonstrated that they had enor­
mous authority and power over the actual operation of the 
various local school systems throughout the state. This 
conclusion was based on the actual assumption or usurpa­
tion of authority by these defendants over the local school 
boards exemplified by their total control, when they chose 
to exert it, over the Macon County school system, and also 
by the general statutory power granted to these various 
officials to supervise and control the public schools in the 
State of Alabama. Examples of the Governor’s actions and 
control, as found previously by this Court, are:



As stated above, acting pursuant to this Court’s 
order, the defendant Macon County Board of Educa­
tion assigned 13 Negro pupils to the Tuskegee Public 
High School. These pupils were assigned in grades 
eight through twelve and were scheduled to begin 
school on September 2, 1963. Early on the morniiig 
of September 2, an Alabama State trooper visited the 
home of Macon County Superintendent Pruitt and 
presented him with an order of Governor George C. 
Wallace, who is also under the law of Alabama the 
ex officio President of the Alabama State Board of 
Education. This Executive Order stated, in part, as 
follows:

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W hereas, there now exist in the State of Alabama 
conditions calculated to result in a disruption of 
the peace and tranquility of this State and to occa­
sion peril to the lives and property of the citizens 
thereof, this situation resulting from the threat of 
forced and unwarranted integration of the public 
schools of this State; and,

*  #  #

Now, T herefore, I, George C. Wallace, as Governor 
of the State of Alabama, and in conformity with 
the Constitutional and statutory power vested in me 
as Governor of said State, do hereby order and 
direct the Macon County Board of Education, Macon 
County, Alabama, to delay the opening of Tuskegee 
High School for a period of one week, until, to-wit: 
Monday, September 9, 1963, with the sole and ex­
press purpose of allowing the Governor of the State 
of Alabama to preserve the peace, maintain domestic



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tranquility and to protect the lives and property of 
all citizens of the State of Alabama.

Done this the 2nd day of 
September, A. D., 1963.

/ s /  George C. Wallace
George C. W allace, as 
Governor of the 
State of A labama

Acting upon this direction of Governor Wallace, the 
State troopers surrounded the Tuskegee High School, 
and neither the pupils nor teachers were permitted to 
enter the school. Tuskegee High School remained 
closed for one week. On September 9, 1963, Governor 
Wallace issued another Executive Order, which stated, 
in part:

Now, T herefore, I, George C. Wallace, as Governor 
of the State of Alabama, and in conformity with the 
Constitutional and statutory power vested in me as 
Governor of said State, do hereby order and direct 
that no student shall be permitted to integrate the 
public schools of the City of Tuskegee, Alabama.

Governor Wallace announced publicly that the State 
Legislature had provided for grants-in-aid to private 
schools and assured the organizers of the Macon Acad­
emy that the Macon County Board of Education would 
cooperate in making grants-in-aid available through 
the use of its statutory authority to provide such aid 
to students in lieu of operating a particular public 
school.



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Examples of the actions and control of the State Board of 
Education and its executive officers, as previously found 
by this Court, are:

In January, 1964, the Alabama State Board of Edu­
cation passed the following resolution:

Be It R esolved That the State Board of Education 
hereby orders that Tuskegee High School be closed, 
all grades above the seventh grade, and that the 
teachers be transferred to other schools in the

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Macon County School System and the children trans­
ferred to other schools in the Tuskegee area, in ac­
cordance with the State Board of Education policy 
of closing schools where the teacher load is not suffi­
cient to justify paying teachers, and in accordance 
with Title 52, Code of Alabama, 1940, as amended; 
and

Be It F urther  R esolved That the Alabama State 
Board of Education hereby orders the Macon County 
Board of Education to provide school bus transpor­
tation for the children attending the Shorter and 
Notasulga schools in Macon County.

On the same date, this resolution was wired by the 
State Superintendent of Education to the Macon 
County Superintendent of Education. In the same ses­
sion, the State Board directed the Governor to take 
whatever steps were necessary to execute its directive 
to close the Tuskegee Public High School above grade 
seven. In compliance with the directive of the State 
Board, the County Board of Education closed the



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Tuskegee High School effective February 3, 1964, and 
directed that all students then attending Tuskegee High 
School (12 Negro and no white students) be trans­
ferred to other schools in the “ Tuskegee area.” The 
County Board of Education further directed that the 
teachers of the Tuskegee High School be assigned to 
such other schools in the county as might be designated. 
The effect of the State Board’s resolution facilitated 
the transportation of white children to the “ all white” 
Shorter and Notasulga schools and by limiting the 
Negro pupils to “ other schools in the Tuskegee area,” 
required them to return to the “ all Negro” Tuskegee 
Institute High School in Tuskegee, Alabama. When 
on February 3, 1964, the Negro pupils were barred 
from the Tuskegee High School, this Court, upon 
proper motion, issued a temporary restraining order, 
the effect of which did not require the reopening of the 
Tuskegee High School for the 12 Negro pupils, but 
ordered these Negro pupils admitted to Shorter and 
Notasulga on the same basis as the white pupils who 
were transferred from the Tuskegee High School Avhen 
the Negro pupils first attended in September, 1963.

In February, 1964, the State Board of Education 
adopted other resolutions directing the Macon County 
Board to provide financial assistance under the grant- 
in-aid law:

B e It B esolved That the Macon County Board of 
Education is directed to forthwith, February 4, 1964, 
provide financial assistance to parents or guardians 
of students under the grant-in-aid law of the State of 
Alabama as set forth in Title 52, of the 1940 Code of 
Alabama, as amended.



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Be I t R esolved That the State Board of Education 
deplores the order of Judge Johnson and pledges 
every resource at our command to defend the people 
of our State against every order of the Federal 
courts in attempting to integrate the public schools 
of this State and will use every legal means at our 
command to defeat said integration orders and 
pledges our full support to the local boards of edu­
cation in supporting the public school system as now

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constituted with the law, and will give every as­
sistance possible to support every effort to maintain 
our way of life and high educational standards for 
all citizens of our State.

Based upon such findings as reflected by the evidence, this 
Court found that “ the State of Alabama has an official 
policy favoring racial segregation in public education,” 
and that, strictly in accordance with this official policy, 
“ the State of Alabama has operated and presently operates 
a dual school system based upon race.” In the July 1964 
order, the Court further found and concluded that “ the 
purpose of said State officials, as evidenced by their actions 
already recited, was clearly to prevent or impede any de­
segregation through their unlawful interference with the 
city and county school boards’ attempting to comply with 
the law.” It was only “ through the exercise of considerable 
judicial restraint” that this Court refrained in July 1964 
from requiring these defendant state officials to exercise 
their control and authority over the various local school 
boards throughout the state for the purpose of desegregat­
ing the school systems on a state-wide basis and to enjoin 
said defendants from using state funds for the purpose of



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perpetuating a dual school system based upon race. The 
exercise of restraint in that instance was prompted by the 
desire on the part of each member of this Court to afford 
these defendants every opportunity to comply in good faith 
with their affirmative constitutional duty to desegregate 
the state’s public schools. See Cooper v. Aaron, 358 U. S. 
1 (1958). Board of Public Instruction of Duval County, 
Fla. v. Braxton, 326 F. 2d 616, 5th Cir. 1964, cert, denied 
377 U. S. 924. We were, however, careful to admonish:

Needless to say, it is only a question of time until 
such illegal and unconstitutional support of segregated 
school systems must cease. These State officials and 
the local school officials are now put on notice that 
within a reasonable time this Court will expect and re­
quire such support to cease. These school officials 
should now proceed to formulate and place into effect 
plans designed to make the distribution of public funds 
to the various schools throughout the State of Alabama 
only to those schools and school systems that have pro­
ceeded with “ deliberate speed” in the desegregation of 
their schools and school systems as required by Brown 
v. Board of Education, supra.

III. The Merits

Over two and one-half years have now elapsed since that 
order was entered. During this period the focus on the 
rights of American citizens, regardless of their race or 
color—and in particular on the right of Negro children to 
attend public schools without discrimination on account of 
their race or color—has increasingly sharpened. The Con­
gress of the United States in Public Law 88-352 (Civil



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Rights Act of 1964) has declared it to be a national policy 
that students shall have the right to attend public schools 
without regard to their race, color, religion or national 
origin; that the term “public school” means any ele­
mentary or secondary educational institution, or any 
institution of higher education or any technical or voca­
tional school above the secondary school level operated by 
a state, subdivision of a state, or governmental agency 
within a state, or operated through the use of governmental 
funds.5 The Attorney General was given authority to in­
stitute suits against school systems for the purpose of fur­
thering “ the orderly achievement of desegregation in pub­
lic education . . . 6 With the knowledge that the public
school systems throughout the United States were receiv­
ing federal financial assistance in large quantities, the 
Congress declared, “ No person in the United States shall, 
on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded 
from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be sub­
jected to discrimination under any program or activity 
receiving Federal financial assistance.” 7 Negroes them­
selves have begun filing individual lawsuits in greater vol­
ume than ever before, for the purpose of desegregating 
public school facilities. These various efforts, insofar as 
the Alabama school system is concerned, have met the re­
lentless opposition of these defendant state officials. Not 
only have these defendants, through their control and in­
fluence over the local school boards, flouted every effort 
to make the Fourteenth Amendment a meaningful reality

5 Title IV , §§ 401-406.

6 Title IV , §§ 407-410.

7 Title V I, § 601.



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to Negro school children in Alabama; they have apparently 
dedicated themselves and, certainly from the evidence in 
this case, have committed the powers and resources of their 
offices to the continuation of a dual public school system 
such as that condemned by Brown v. Board of Education, 
347 U. S. 4S3 (1954). As a result of such efforts on the 
part of those charged with the duty and responsibility 
under the law as announced in 1954 by the Supreme Court 
in Brown, by the Congress of the United States in the Civil 
Rights Act of 1964, and, more specifically, by this Court in 
its July 1964 order, today only a very small percentage of 
students in Alabama are enrolled in desegregated school 
systems.8 Based upon this fact and a continuation of such

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conduct on the part of these state officials as hereafter out­
lined, it is now evident that the reasons for this Court’s 
reluctance to grant the relief to which these plaintiffs were 
clearly entitled over two years ago are no longer valid.

It is considered appropriate to restate the general scope 
of the control and authority of these defendant officials 
over the public schools in Alabama. As noted earlier, the 
defendant officials have extensive powers over this public 
school system. Section 262 of the Alabama Constitution 
provides that “ The supervision of the public schools shall 
be vested in a superintendent of education, whose powers, 
duties . . . shall be fixed by law.” The State Board of Edu­
cation has similar duties: “ [the Board] shall exercise, 
through the state superintendent of education and his pro­

8 The percentage of students enrolled in schools in which they 
are in a racial minority are: White, 0 .0 0 3 % ; Negro, 0 .34% . The 
1965-66 Annual Reports to the Alabama State Department of 
Education reflect that of the 294,734 Negro children attending 
public schools in Alabama only 1,009 were attending desegregated 
schools.



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fessional assistants, general control and supervision over 
the public schools of the state . . . Title 52, $14, Code 
of Alabama. The Legislature has also provided that “ The 
state superintendent of education shall execute the educa­
tional policies of the state board of education.” Title 52, 
$45, Code of Alabama.

The State Board is expressly authorized to adopt rules 
and regulations governing school construction, school sani­
tation, and physical examination of school children, and 
must enforce all rules relating to “ school health, compul­
sory education, and child conservation.” Title 52, $15, Code 
of Alabama. It controls the grading and standardizing of 
public schools,9 the minimum contents of courses of study,10 11 
and the training and certification of teachers.11 The State 
Board of Education is further charged with the duty of 
“ equalizing the public school facilities throughout the State” 
and administers a fund for that purpose. Title 52, $33, Code 
of Alabama. The State Board and the State Superintendent 
together exercise a broad power of review of actions of 
local school hoards and local superintendents in “ matters 
relating to finance, and other matters seriously affecting 
the educational interest.” Title 52, $$34 and 47, Code of 
Alabama.

The Board also has broad powers to effectuate and sup-
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plement other powers previously expressly conferred. Title 
52, $31, Code of Alabama.

It was on the basis of these provisions that the Supreme 
Court of Alabama was able to conclude: “ Every public

9 Title 52, § 16, Code of Alabama.

10 Title 52, § 17, Code of Alabama.

11 Title 52, § 20, Code of Alabama.



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school is a state school, created by the state, supported by 
the state, supervised by the state, through state-wide and 
local agencies, taught by teachers licensed by the state, 
employed by agencies of the state.”  Williams, Supt. of 
Banks, et al. v. State, For Use and Benefit of Pickens 
County, et al., 230 Ala. 395, 397,161 So. 507, 507-08 (1935).12

To maintain the racial characteristics of the Alabama 
public school system, the defendant state officials have used 
their power in essentially two ways. First, they have used 
their authority as a threat and as a means of punishment 
to prevent local school officials from fulfilling their con­
stitutional obligation to desegregate schools, and, second, 
they have performed their own functions in such a way 
as to maintain and preserve the racial characteristics of 
the system. No useful purpose would be served by reiterat­
ing the machinations surrounding the closing of schools in 
Tuskegee, Alabama, and the Governor’s abortive efforts to 
thwart the desegregation of Tuskegee High School, since 
this episode is adequately set out in this Court’s opinion 
of July 1964 (231 F. Supp. 743). Such conduct, and its 
continuation as hereinafter found, reveals a broad spec­
trum of state interference with local desegregation efforts.

Title VI of the Civil Eights Act of 1964, as stated earlier, 
prohibits discrimination in federally assisted programs. 
This law became effective July 2, 1964. In December 1964 
the Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare of the 
United States published regulations for compliance with 
Title VI programs administered by his department.13 
These regulations require, among other things, that any

12 Accord: State v. Tuscaloosa County, et al., 233 Ala. 611, 172 
So. 892 (1937).

13 45 C.F.E. 80.1-80.9.



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application for federal financial assistance be accompanied 
by an assurance that the program will be conducted, or the 
facility operated, on a nondiscriminatory basis.14

On March 4, 1965, State Superintendent of Education 
Meadows submitted to the United States Commissioner of 
Education state-wide assurance of compliance. When Dr. 
Francis Keppel, United States Commissioner of Education, 
questioned this “ assurance,” the State Superintendent of 
Education reacted by attacking Dr. Keppel’s letter through 
a news release to the superintendents of the local school

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systems throughout Alabama. Approximately two weeks 
after filing his state-wide assurance of compliance, Super­
intendent Meadows told the Alabama Teachers Associa­
tion:

. . . The minority race has a new junior college in 
Mobile and a new one is being established in Jefferson 
County . . .

# * * * •

Every type of education facility available to the ma­
jority group in Alabama has been made available to 
the minority group . . .

His address ended with the following plea:

. . .  Will this Nation let Alabama continue its progress, 
nurture its fine culture, and further its goal of peace­
ful existence in the only way it knows to exist or will 
all of this be destroyed by outsiders who either do not 
understand or do not care enough for either race in 
Alabama ?

14 45 C.F.R. 80.4.



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In April 1965 the United States Commissioner of Edu­
cation issued “guidelines” requiring the school systems 
to take immediate steps to desegregate students, facilities 
and programs.15 Pursuant to these guidelines, a number 
of Alabama school districts decided to desegregate all 
twelve grades for the 1965-66 school year. In August 
1965, and after Singleton v. Jackson Municipal Separate 
School District, supra, Governor George C. Wallace sent 
the Superintendent of each such district the following- 
telegram :

15 Nothing said here should be construed, inferentially or other­
wise, as a decision by this Court on the validity or invalidity of 
the 1966 guidelines as issued by the United States Commissioner 
of Education, since that question, and other related questions, is 
presently pending in a case styled Alabama N A A C P  State Con­
ference of Branches, et al., Plaintiffs, United States of America, 
Plaintiff and Amicus Curiae v. George C. Wallace, et al., Defen­
dants, being heard by a separate three-judge court in this district. 
Furthermore, in this case we deal solely with constitutional re­
quirements on the part of public officials not to discriminate on 
the basis of race in the operation of public schools and with con­
stitutional requirements on the part of public officials to take af­
firmative action to disestablish state enforced or encouraged public 
school segregation and to eliminate the effects of past state en­
forced or encouraged racial discrimination in their activities and 
in their operation of the public school system in the State of 
Alabama. It is felt that it is necessary, however, to discuss the 
conduct of some of these defendants in connection with the com­
pliance or noncompliance of the 1965 guidelines on the part of 
local school officials for the purpose of demonstrating the extent 
of the control exercised by these state officials over the local school 
boards throughout the state. In this connection, it should be 
noted that in June 1965 the United States Court of Appeals for 
the Fifth Circuit recognized the guidelines, as then issued (1965 
guidelines), as “standards for compliance with the requirements of 
Title V I of the Civil Eights Act of 1964.” Singleton v. Jackson 
Municipal Separate School District, 348 F . 2d 729, 731. For the 
purpose of emphasis, we reiterate that in this case this Court is 
not concerned with the validity of any guidelines issued by the 
United States Commissioner of Education in either 1965 or 1966.



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WE HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT YOUR 
SCHOOL BOARD HAS VOLUNTARILY SUB­
MITTED A SO-CALLED COMPLIANCE PLAN 
COVERING ALL GRADES IN YOUR SCHOOL

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SYSTEM. AS YOU KNOW, AYE HAVE NEVER 
ASKED ANY SCHOOL BOARD TO VIOLATE 
ANY PROVISION OF FEDERAL OR STATE 
LAW. IT IS OUR CONSIDERED JUDGMENT 
THAT ANY PLAN FOR SO-CALLED NON-DIS­
CRIMINATION IN ALL GRADES IS BEYOND 
EVEN THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS SET 
BY THE U S COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION. 
IN FACT, THE DEPARTMENT HAS ACCEPTED 
AS MINIMUM COMPLIANCE SOME PLANS 
COVERING ONLY FOUR GRADES. IT IS ALSO 
READILY APPARENT THAT THOSE SCHOOL 
SYSTEMS WHICH HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO 
DESEGREGATE UNDER FEDERAL COURT OR­
DER ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DESEGREGATE 
ALL 12 GRADES IN ONE YEAR. WE THINK IT 
WOULD BE ADVISABLE FOR YOUR SCHOOL 
BOARD TO RECONSIDER YOUR ACTION IN 
THE SUBMISSION OF YOUR COMPLIANCE 
PLAN.

On September 3, 1965, the Governor sent them another
telegram:

THIS FOLLOW-UP TELEGRAM COMES AFTER 
A  MEETING OF THE STATE BOARD OF EDU­
CATION WHICH PASSED A RESOLUTION 
YESTERDAY EXPRESSING GRAVE CONCERN 
ABOUT THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION



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IN ALABAMA IN VIEW  OF THE FACT THAT 
SOME SCHOOL BOARDS HAVE GONE BEYOND 
THE MAXIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF COURT 
PRECEDENTS IN EXECUTING COMPLIANCE 
PLANS. WE AGAIN RESPECTFULLY CALL TO 
YOUR ATTENTION THAT THE EXECUTION 
AND ADMINISTRATION OF PLANS BEYOND 
THOSE REQUIRED IS NOT IN THE INTEREST 
OF PUBLIC EDUCATION IN THE STATE OF 
ALABAMA. SUCH WAS ENUNCIATED BY THE 
SOUTHERN GOVERNORS MEETING IN AT­
LANTA. IN VIEW  OP THE FACT THAT UNDER 
THE PUPIL PLACEMENT ACT THE ADMINIS­
TRATION AND ASSIGNMENT OF PUPILS IS 
YOUR PREROGATIVE, WE AGAIN RESPECT­
FULLY REQUEST THAT YOU TAKE W H AT­
EVER ACTION IS NECESSARY TO SEE THAT 
THE ADMINISTRATION AND EXECUTION OF 
THESE PLANS DO NOT GO BEYOND THE RE­
QUIREMENTS OF FEDERAL COURT ORDERS 
OF FIVE GRADES. WE URGE CAREFUL CON­
SIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION PASSED 
UNANIMOUSLY BY THE STATE BOARD OF 
EDUCATION, A  COPY OF WHICH WILL BE 
FORWARDED TO YOU AND WHICH WE 
WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENDORSE. WE COM­
MEND THE DILIGENT WORK OF THE GREAT 
MAJORITY OF LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS WHO 
HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB UNDER 
EXTREM ELY TRYING CIRCUMSTANCES.

On September 3, 1965, Superintendent of Education 
Meadows sent the local school officials a copy of a resolu­



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tion bv the State Board of Education urging them “ to 
take no action in the administration and execution of com­
pliance plans which are not required by law or court 
order . . . Superintendent Allen Thornton of Lauderdale 
County, who had attempted to justify his board’s actions 
to the Governor, received the following telegram from the 
Governor:

YOUR STATEMENT TO THE GOVERNORS OF­
FICE ON THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 2 THAT YOU 
ARE SATISFIED WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL 
SITUATION IN LAUDERDALE COUNTY WHERE 
MORE NEGRO PUPILS ARE ENROLLED IN THE 
PREVIOUSLY ALL W HITE SCHOOLS THAN 
ARE IN EITHER OF THE LARGE CITIES OF 
BIRMINGHAM OR MONTGOMERY, AND YOUR 
FURTHER STATEMENT THAT YOU PLAN 
TO ELIMINATE EVENTUALLY ALL NEGRO 
SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY AND TRANSFER 
THE PUPILS TO W HITE SCHOOLS COULD DO 
MORE TO DESTROY THE PUBLIC EDUCA­
TIONAL SYSTEM OF ALABAMA THAN ANY 
ACTION SINCE THE INFAMOUS 1954 DECISION 
OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. 
THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO 
RAISE SUPPORT OF PUBLIC EDUCATION TO

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A  RECORD HIGH LEVEL IN THE HISTORY OF 
OUR STATE RESENT AND REJECT THIS A T ­
TITUDE. W E CALL UPON YOU TO ALIGN YOUR 
POLICIES W ITH THE MINIMUM REQUIRE­
MENTS OF THE LAW  AND OF COURT ORDERS. 
(COPIES OF THIS TELEGRAM SENT TO FLOR-



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ENCE TIMES, FLORENCE, ALA. ASSOCIATED 
PRESS, MONTGOMERY, ALA., AND UNITED 
PRESS INTERNATIONAL, MONTGOMERY, A LA ­
BAMA)

These telegrams had their effect. For instance, on Sep­
tember 6, 1965, the Choctaw County Board of Education 
resolved:

That due to the change in conditions, particularly 
within the past few days, the Board concludes it is 
for the best interest of the children attending the 
schools of Choctaw County, Alabama, their safety and 
welfare, for the continued orderly operation of the 
schools in the Count}', and for the prevention of vio­
lence which would likely result in serious consequences 
adversely affecting the orderly operation of the schools, 
the plan of desegregation of the schools of Choctaw 
County, Alabama, adopted by this Board on August 
23, 1965, be and the same is hereby revoked.

The reaction of these defendant state officials and their 
conduct and the responses by the local school officials con­
cerning the 1966 guidelines issued on March 7, 1966, by the 
United States Department of Health, Education and Wel­
fare, for the reasons set forth by this Court in footnote 15, 
supra, will not be made a part of the findings and conclu­
sions of this Court in this case.

Conduct on the part of these state officials to thwart 
desegregation of the public school system in the state con­
tinued, and on July 1, 1966, Alabama State Superintendent 
of Education Meadows expressed his views on segregation



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in a parable which he circulated to each local superintendent 
of education throughout the State of Alabama.18

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In August 1966 the Tuscaloosa County School Board 

formally assigned two Negro teachers to two predominantly 
white schools and four white teachers to two Negro schools. 
Shortly after school opened in Tuscaloosa County and 
these assignments became known, the State Superinten­
dent of Education telephoned the Tuscaloosa County 
Superintendent of Education, Dr. W. W. Elliott, and rec­
ommended that the two Negro teachers who had been as­
signed to predominant!}7 white schools be transferred to 16

16 “ ‘Segregation’ is a perfectly good word. It has been prac­
ticed down through the ages for good results. The Lord set aside 
or segregated fruit from the apple tree in the Garden of Eden 
from Adam and Eve, but Eve persuaded Adam to taste the fruit 
and they were both banished from the Garden of Eden and honest 
men and women have had to work for their living ever since.

“ Segregation has been used by people of the civilized world 
for man’s greatest advancement. Matrimony, the most sacred of 
all bonds for men and women, is the highest type of segregation. 
In matrimony, husband and wife bind themselves to cleave to one 
another, even to the extent of forsaking all others if necessary. A  
great ministerial commandment has been the public pronounce­
ment at the wedding ceremony ‘W hat God has joined together let 
no man put asunder.’ Without this bond of segregation, there 
would be no family unit. One of the Ten Commandments forbids 
breaking this human bond of segregation. Segregation is the basic 
principle of culture. The good join together to segregate them­
selves from the bad.

“ Segregation is one of the principles of survival throughout the 
animal kingdom. Animals, in many instances, join their own kind 
to defend themselves by numbers against other animals that would 
destroy them without such segregated bond. Birds of a feather 
truly flock together. W ild  geese fly across this continent in ‘V ’ 
formation, but they never join any other flock of birds. W ild  duck 
fly together and not with other birds. The wild eagle mates with 
with another eagle and not with any other bird. Red birds mate 
with red birds, the beautiful blue birds mate with other blue 
birds, and so on through bird life.

(footnote continued on next page)



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other schools. Dr. Meadows advised the local school offi­
cial that he was calling as a constitutional officer of the 
State of Alabama and that the assignment of Negro teach­
ers to white schools was “ against the law” and “ public 
policy” of the state. A  few days later Governor George 
C. Wallace, in a press conference, announced that he would 
use the police power of the state to maintain peace and 
requested that the two Negro teachers be removed and re­
assigned forthwith. Later, still in September 1966, State 
Superintendent Meadows again endeavored to persuade 
the Tuscaloosa County Superintendent of Education to re­
assign the Negro teachers. About the same time, Attorney 
Hugh Maddox, Legal Adviser to the Governor, telephoned 
the Tuscaloosa County Superintendent and informed him 
that, “ It [is] the public policy of the State that Negro 
teachers not teach white children” and that the Governor 
would use his police power to enforce the law. Dr. Elliott 
insisted that these Negro teachers were fully qualified and 
did not agree to reassign them. On October 17, 1966, the 
defendant Meadows, again by telephone, advised Dr. El­
liott that the Governor suggested that two additional 
teacher units be allotted to the Tuscaloosa County school 
system provided the students being taught in white schools 
by the two Negro teachers were allowed the freedom to 
choose a white teacher. The State Board of Education

“ There can be segregation without immoral discrimination against 
anyone. Integration of all human life and integration of all animal 
life would destroy humanity and would destroy the animal kingdom. 
A  time of reckoning must come in this United States of America 
on the fundamental principles of segregation and non-discrimination 
which can be achieved without destroying segregation in its true 
sense.”



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also promised funds to the Tuscaloosa County school sys­
tem for additional classroom space to accommodate two 
additional white teachers. These state officials also made 
it clear that similar measures would be taken in other 
communities if Negro teachers were assigned to teach white 
students. A  news release circulated by Dr. Meadows on 
October 25,1966, to all city and county superintendents and 
to all news media was as follows:

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In complete accord and with full approval of Gov­

ernor George C. Wallace, any county or city hoard of 
education will be allocated a teacher unit and appor­
tionment of funds therefor where such board employs 
a teacher for pupils to transfer from a teacher of the 
opposite race to a teacher of their own race by free­
dom of choice of such pupils and their parents. Two 
such teacher units have already been allocated to a 
county board of education in which thousands of peo­
ple filed a petition for such relief, both with the county 
board of education and the Governor of Alabama.

The foregoing findings serve to illustrate that the actions 
on the part of the defendant Alabama officials have been 
designed to perpetuate the racially segregated public 
school system in the State of Alabama. These actions have 
been to some extent, as noted, dramatic interference with 
local efforts to desegregate public schools. However, the 
most significant action by these defendant state officials, 
designed to maintain the dual public school system based 
upon race, is found in the day-to-day performance of their 
duties in the general supervision and operation of the sys­
tem.



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A . S chool Construction and Consolidation

The State Board of Education and its Secretary and 
Executive Officer have been vested by statute with general 
supervisory powers over public education in Alabama. 
Code of Alabama, Title 52. The State Board is specifically 
authorized to adopt rules and regulations “ for the proper 
construction of school buildings.” Title 52, Section 15, Code 
of Alabama. For approximately fifty years, the State De­
partment of Education has conducted periodic surveys of 
the Alabama school system. These surveys are for the 
purpose of enabling that department to make decisions 
and recommendations concerning the location, construc­
tion, consolidation, expansion and abandonment of schools 
and school buildings. The factual information is obtained 
from field inspections and relates to the distribution of 
student population within the school districts, the location, 
capacity and physical condition of school buildings, and 
other information concerning school sites. This informa­
tion is then evaluated by the State Superintendent and 
the State Board of Education. Certain standards regard­
ing the adequacy of physical structures have been estab­
lished by the State Department; for instance, standards 
respecting the minimum size of school sites, minimum 
student standards, and minimum teacher standards. On 
the basis of the information gathered in the surveys and 
these standards, the survey teams make recommendations 
and classifications. First, they classify the school buildings 
as either “ suitable for permanent use,” “ suitable for tem­
porary use,” or “ should he abandoned.” Second, recom­
mendations are made concerning the consolidation of exist­
ing schools. Third, recommendations are made concerning



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where new schools should be constructed or existing facil­
ities enlarged. This information, together with the recom­
mendations, is published by the State Department of 
Education in a Survey Report after the findings and rec­
ommendations are approved by the State Superintendent 
of Education. To a large extent, these recommendations— 
of necessity—are controlling upon the local school boards, 
since local boards that ignore them are penalized through 
the use of regulations that have been adopted by the State 
Board and through the use of other obligations such as 
those governing the allocations of state funds under the 
Minimum Program Fund17 for teachers’ salaries.

Other regulations establish a method of calculating the 
number of teacher units earned by and to be awarded each 
school. Transportation allowances to the local school dis­
tricts are made in recognition of the survey recommenda­
tions, and the Survey Reports determine, to a large extent, 
the State Superintendent’s approval or disapproval of 
sites for new school construction or existing school ex­
pansion. In each instance, the local school board must 
obtain the approval of the State Superintendent as to the 
location and need for expansion; the approval of the State 
Superintendent is also needed for construction projects, 
since the principal source of construction funds comes from 
state bond issues. The State Superintendent’s approval on 
school construction projects is important, even where local 
funds are used, since local boards of education cannot is­
sue warrants without the specific approval of the State 
Superintendent of Education. Title 52, Code of Alabama, 
§§ 216-218, 235 (4). Furthermore, the Governor and the 
State Superintendent of Education constitute a majority

17 Title 52, §§ 208-215, Code of Alabama.



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of the Public School and College Authority. This agency 
has the power to establish priorities for projects and to 
make funds more readily available to local school systems.

The evidence in this case is absolutely overwhelming 
that the State Board of Education and the Alabama Super­
intendent of Education, with the assistance of their staff 
in the State Department of Education, have exercised ex­
tensive control over school construction and consolidation 
in such a manner as to perpetuate a dual public school 
system based upon race and to interfere with the orderly 
desegregation of the public schools in the State of Ala­
bama. This discriminatory course of conduct on the part 
of these defendants has continued and persisted since this 
Court’s order of July 1964, for instance, the interference 
of State Superintendent Meadows and the Governor with 
the Tuscaloosa County Board of Education and their offer

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to that local board regarding construction funds. Such an 
offer could have been for no purpose other than to thwart 
the efforts of that local board to desegregate the faculties 
of its schools. Furthermore, the use of that authority 
and control on the part of these defendants over school 
construction has not been confined to manipulating the 
availability of funds. For instance, a more insidious 
method of control over local boards for the purpose of 
perpetuating a dual public school system based upon race 
has been with respect to school construction and consoli­
dation. This is found in the judgments and recommenda­
tions contained in the school surveys. The survey recom­
mendations regarding consolidation strictly observe the 
racially segregated character of the schools. In Calhoun 
County—to take but one example— rather than recommend 
that the local board close down an inferior Negro school



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(Hawkins) and consolidate it with a nearby white school 
(Bynum), the survey recommended, instead, that the Negro 
students from the Hawkins School be transported across 
the county to Calhoun County Training School, a Negro 
school. Not only was the Calhoun County Training School 
a greater distance from Hawkins, which necessitated bus­
ing for the purpose of maintaining segregation, but, com­
pared to Bynum, the physical facilities were significantly 
inferior and less room was available for the Negro students 
who were bused from Hawkins. The Survey Report that 
was then in existence reflected that the Calhoun County 
Training School to which the Hawkins Negro students 
were transported “ is located on an inadequate site aboiit 
which little can be done.” Such a method of consolidation 
was for no purpose other than to perpetuate segregation 
of the races in that public school system.

The survey teams have also sought to perpetuate the 
dual public school system by refusing to recommend con­
solidation wdiere consolidation would have had the effect 
of desegregating. These reports reflect that the survey 
teams consistently compromised the minimum student 
standards in order to maintain segregation of the students. 
Such a course of conduct is condemning evidence that the 
defendants have sought to perpetuate and, through this 
means, have effectively perpetuated the dual public school 
system.

In yet another area, the state survey recommendations 
pertaining to the location of new schools have been de­
signed to perpetuate the dual system. Considerations of 
economy, convenience and education have been subordi­
nated to the policy of racial separation; survey reports of 
construction sites reflect this policy. A striking instance 
of this discriminatory conduct is found in the Clarke



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County survey conducted during the 1964-65 school year. 
At the time of the survey, there were twenty-three schools

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in the system attended by approximately 5800 students— 
2400 white and 3400 Negro. Consolidation was clearly 
called for; yet the survey staff sought to perpetuate the 
segregated system by recommending and approving that, 
in each of the three principal towns of the county, two 
separate schools be maintained as permanent school in­
stallations, each covering grades 1-12. This recommenda­
tion in each of these three towns in Clarke County, Ala­
bama, can be explained only in racial terms. Other similar 
numerous examples have been presented, the discussion of 
which would serve no useful purpose.

Furthermore, through the control of finances in school 
construction, these defendants have insured that Negro 
children are provided with markedly inferior educational 
opportunities. For example, the average pupil-teacher 
ratio in the Negro schools is higher than in the white 
schools; the per-pupil valuation of school buildings and 
contents is $607.12 per white pupil as compared to $295.40 
per Negro pupil. Over 25% of the Negro high schools in 
Alabama are unaccredited as compared with only 3.4% of 
white high schools.

B. F aculty  and  S taff

It is no longer open to question that faculty and staff 
desegregation is an integral part of any public school de­
segregation plan—not because of teachers’ employment 
rights, but because students are entitled to a nonracial 
education, and assignment of teachers to students on the 
basis of race denies students that right. See Bradley v.



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School Board of Richmond, 382 U.S. 103 (1965); Rogers 
v. Paul, 382 U.S. 198 (1965); Kemp v. Beasley, 352 F. 2d 
14 (8th Cir. 1965); Singleton v. Jackson Municipal Sepa­
rate School District, 355 F. 2d 865 (5th Cir. 1966); Wheeler 
v. Durham City Board of Education, 363 F. 2d 738 (4th 
Cir. 1966); Davis v. Board of School Commissioners of 
Mobile County, 364 F. 2d 896 (5th Cir. 1966).

The constitutional duty to desegregate the faculties in 
public school systems was made clear by the Supreme Court 
of the United States in Rogers v. Paul, supra:

Two theories would give students not yet in desegre­
gated grades sufficient interest to challenge racial allo­
cation of faculty: (1) that racial allocation of faculty 
denies them equality of educational opportunity with­
out regard to segregation of pupils; and (2) that it 
renders inadequate an otherwise constitutional pupil 
desegregation plan soon to be applied to their grades.

This constitutional duty was recognized by the United 
States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit in Singleton 
v. Jackson Municipal Separate School District, supra, when 
the Court stated:

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. . . [W ]e regard it as essential that the plan provide 
an adequate start toward elimination of race as a 
basis for the employment and allocation of teachers, 
administrators, and other personnel.

and again in Davis v. Board of School Commissioners of 
Mobile County, supra, when the Court stated:

. . . [T]he plan must be modified in order that there 
be an end to the present policy of hiring and assigning 
teachers according to race by the time the last of the



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schools are fully desegregated for the school year 
1967-68.

The recent decision in Clark v. Board of Education of 
the Little Rock School District, 369 F. 2d 661, 669 (8th 
Cir., December 15, 1966), requires that specific steps must 
be taken now to end faculty segregation. The Court stated:

We agree that faculty segregation encourages pupil 
segregation and is detrimental to achieving a constitu­
tionally required non-racially operated school system. 
It is clear that the Board may not continue to operate a 
segregated teaching staff. . . .  At this point the Board 
is going to have to end discriminatory practices in staff 
assignment and recruitment.

and, in another passage:

[T]he Board should make all additional positive com­
mitments necessary to bring about some measure of 
racial balance in the staff of the individual schools 
in the very near future. The age old distinction of 
“white schools” and “ Negro schools” must be erased. 
The continuation of such distinctions only perpetuates 
inequality of educational opportunity and places in 
jeopardy the effective future operation of the entire 
“ freedom of choice” type plan.

As in other areas, some of which have already been dis­
cussed, defendants have endeavored to thwart and, with 
considerable success, have thwarted efforts toward imple­
mentation of the constitutional requirement to eliminate 
faculty and staff segregation in the public school system 
of Alabama. The Governor’s legal adviser was indeed cor­
rect when he declared that, “ It [is] . . . the public policy



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of the State that Negro teachers not teach white children.” 
Evidence in this case reflects that this policy has been 
successful for, of over 28,000 teachers in the state, only 76 
are teaching in schools to which students of the opposite 
race have been traditionally assigned. Defendants, through 
the use of pressures, some of which have herein been out­
lined, have required local hoards to conform to their views 
on faculty and staff segregation in the school system. As 
a matter of fact, they have acted affirmatively to use the 
Minimum Program Fund to make segregation of the facul­
ties and staffs in the several school districts attractive.

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For instance, as we have previously noted, the State Super­
intendent of Education, at the insistence of the Governor, 
utilized the state’s power, that had been vested in these 
defendants, of allocation of teacher units by authorizing 
two additional units to be used for the purpose of hiring- 
white replacements for the two Negro teachers hired by 
the Tuscaloosa County Board of Education teach in white 
schools.

Teacher institutes continue to be conducted separately 
for each race. Section 339, Title 52, Code of Alabama. 
Generally, the control exercised by these defendants over 
in-service training programs and teacher certification has 
been used not as a means to eliminate discrimination in the 
dual school system of Alabama but as an instrument to 
enforce segregation throughout that system.

In this area, as in other areas herein discussed, there is 
an affirmative duty on the part of these defendants, as 
well as on the part of other school officials throughout the 
state, to desegregate staffs and faculties. This is also a 
constitutional duty apart from any federal regulatory 
scheme.



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C. T ransportation

It cannot seriously be contended that transportation is 
not a critical factor in the process of disestablishing the 
traditional dual public school system.18

The defendant state officials exercise considerable au­
thority in this area since nearly 100% of the cost of local 
school transportation programs is paid from the state 
Minimum Program Fund and, further, since § 209, Title 52, 
Code of Alabama, empowers the State Board of Education 
to approve transportation routes submitted by the local 
boards and to establish minimum standards for the buses 
that are used to transport the students. This Court’s find­
ing in its July 1964 order that these defendants have used 
this control over transportation to perpetuate segregation 
is as true now as it was then. The State Board continues 
to finance and permit the operation of school bus systems 
organized on a racially discriminatory basis. The buses 
provided Negro children have been and continue to be of a 
markedly inferior quality. There is duplication and over-

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lapping of bus routes in the school bus transportation * 25

18 See, e.g., Franklin v. Barbour County Board of Education, 
259 F. Supp. 545 (M D Ala. 1966) ; Harris v. Crenshaw County 
Board of Education, 259 F . Supp. 167 (M D Ala. 1966) ; Carr v. 
Montgomery County Board of Education, 253 F. Supp. 306 (MD  
Ala. 1966) ; Harris v. Bullock County Board of Education, 253 
F. Supp. 276 (M D Ala. 1966) ; United States v. Loiundes County 
Board of Education, Civ. Action No. 2328-N, MD Ala., February 
10, 1966; Wright v. County School Board of Greenville County, 
252 F. Supp. 378 (E D  Va. 1966) ; United States v. North Pike 
Consolidated School District, Civ. Action No. 3807, SD Miss. Sept.
25, 1965; Baird v. Benton County Board of Education, Civ. Ac­
tion No. W .C . 6513, ND Miss. Aug. 3, 1965; United States v. 
Natchez Special Municipal Separate School District, Civ. Action 
No. 1120 (W ) , SD Miss., January 28, 1966 as amended April 15, 
1966; Killingsworth v. Quitman Consolidated School District, Civ. 
Action No. 1 302(E ), SD Miss., August 14, 1965.



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provided in practically every area of the state to permit 
white children to avoid attending desegregated schools 
closer to their homes; further, this system has been and is 
being used to transport Negro children living near white 
schools to Negro schools miles away.

D. T rade S chools, V ocational S chools and S tate 
Colleges

The state’s trade schools, vocational schools and state 
colleges19 continue to he operated on a segregated basis. 
The operation of these systems is the immediate responsi­
bility of the State Board of Education. See the Regional 
Vocational and Trade School Act of 1947, Code of Ala­
bama, Title 52, §451(4); the Alabama Trade School and 
Junior College Authority Act of 1963, Code of Alabama, 
Title 52, §509(96); Code of Alabama, Title 52, §§451(3) 
and 509(85). See also Code of Alabama, Title 52, §§438 
and 452.

There is no necessity for setting out the facts in detail 
concerning the operation of these state colleges since the 
evidence conclusively establishes—the defendants do not 
controvert it—that these schools have been and continue 
to be operated as if Brown v. Board of Education were 
inapplicable in these areas. For example, § 438, Title 52, 
Code of Alabama, reads:

The state board of education shall have the control and 
management of the several teachers’ colleges of the 
state, for white teachers, located at Florence, Jackson­

19 The term “state college,” as used herein, includes all state 
colleges or universities except the University of Alabama, Auburn 
University, University of South Alabama at Mobile, and Alabama 
College at Montevallo, which institutions have separate boards of 
trustees and are not administered by the Alabama State Board 
of Education.



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ville, Livingston, Troy, and of the Alabama State Col­
lege for Negroes located at Montgomery.

The plaintiffs are also clearly entitled to relief in this area.
It is quite clear that the defendants have abrogated, and 

openly continue to abrogate, their affirmative duty to effec­
tuate the principles of Brown v. Board of Education, supra. 
Although the facts as herein outlined speak eloquently for 
themselves, there is no more clear an indication of this 
than Superintendent Meadows’ statement that he has done 
nothing to eliminate segregation in the public schools of 
Alabama. As Judges Sobeloff and Bell stated in a con­
curring opinion in Bradley v. School Board of the City of 
Richmond, Virginia, 345 F. 2d 310, 322, 323 (4th Cir. 1965):

[T]he initiative in achieving desegregation of the pub­
lic schools must come from the school authorities.

# # # # #

Affirmative action means more than telling those who 
have long been deprived of freedom of educational

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opportunity, “ You now have a choice.” [Emphasis 
added.]

# # # # #
It is now 1965 and high time for the court to insist 
that good faith compliance requires administrators of 
schools to proceed actively with their nontransferable 
duty to undo the segregation Avhich both by action and 
inaction has been persistently perpetuated.

Accord, Cooper v. Aaron, supra. Such a course of conduct 
on the part of these defendants has served to thwart and, 
in many instances, defeat voluntary desegregation plans 
that have been attempted by the local school districts.



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It should be noted that one of the most illegal methods 
adopted by these defendants to impede desegregation on a 
local level is that they have consistently attempted to ob­
scure the fact that local school authorities have a federal 
constitutional duty to desegregate their school systems 
totally, notwithstanding whether a particular system is 
under a court order or whether that school system agrees 
to comply with the requirements of the Department of 
Health, Education and Welfare of the United States.

Statements to the effect that “ the local school districts 
should go no further than ordered by the Court,” and the 
offers to replace federal funds with state funds have been 
designed to lead the local school authorities to believe that 
they have no such affirmative duty. Such philosophy com­
pletely ignores the fact that the paramount duty to desegre­
gate is a constitutional one independent of any court order 
and independent of any federal regulatory program. It is 
entirely disingenuous of the defendants to fail to admit 
that their activities were coercive and for them to contend 
they were, at most, acting in an advisory capacity, with 
the ultimate control residing with the local boards. The 
record presented to this Court clearly indicates that these 
defendants stand ready to exercise, and have in many in­
stances in areas of public education in Alabama exercised, 
the same powers and control that they demonstrated two 
and one-half years ago over the Macon County schools 
when the desegregated school was closed and white stu­
dents were bused to other schools in the same system that 
continued to operate on a segregated basis. In addition, 
this Court’s conclusion in its July 1964 order that “ The 
control by the State Board of Education over the local 
school systems is effected and rigidly maintained through 
control of * * * finances” has not been diminished by sub­



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sequent events. On the contrary, the evidence concerning 
the conduct of these defendants since 1964 strengthens that 
conclusion. This control on the part of these defendants 
over the local boards is all pervasive; it invests in these 
defendants power over school construction and consolida-

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tion, teachers, school transportation and other vital areas 
in the operation of the public schools throughout the state.

IV. The Tuition Grant Statute

As observed earlier in this opinion, state and local au­
thorities are under an affirmative constitutional duty to pro­
vide equal educational opportunities for all children by 
ceasing to discriminate on the basis of race and to the 
extent herein noted and ordered, eliminating the effects 
of past discrimination. To obviate the performance of this 
duty, a state may neither operate and maintain two school 
systems—one integrated, one segregated—giving public 
school students a choice between the two,20 nor simply go 
out of the business of running schools in some school dis­
tricts and allow that function to be undertaken by private 
persons.21 It is also axiomatic that a state may not induce, 
encourage or promote private persons to accomplish what 
it is constitutionally forbidden to accomplish.22

20 Boson v. Rippy, 285 P. 2d 43, 45-46 (5th Cir. 1960) ; Kelly  v. 
Board of Education of City of Nashville, 159 P. Supp. 272, 278 
(M D Tenn. 1958).

21 Griffin v. County School Board of Prince Edward County, 377 
U.S. 218 (1964) ; Lee, et al. v. Macon County Board of Education, 
231 P. Supp. 743 (M D Ala. 1964).

22 See Anderson v. Martin, 375 U.S. 399 (1964). And see, Lom­
bard v. Louisiana, 373 U.S. 267 (1963) ; N A A C P  v. Alabama, 357 
U.S. 449, 463 (1958) ; Burton  v. Wilmington Parking Authority, 
365 U.S. 715, 726-27 (1961) (Justice Stewart concurring) ; Evans



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Measured against these criteria and when viewed in the 
context of the facts and circumstances which gave rise to 
its enactment, the vice of the present tuition statute23 be­
comes clear: it is but another attempt of the State of 
Alabama to circumvent the principles of Brown by helping 
to promote and finance a private school system for white 
students not wishing to attend public schools also attended

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by Negroes.

Alabama’s present tuition statute must be analyzed in 
the historical context which gave rise to its enactment. It 
is unmistakably clear that the concept of tuition grants to 
students wishing to attend private schools in Alabama was 
born of an effort to resist and frustrate implementation

v. Newton, 382 U.S. 296, 305-307 (1965) (Justice White con­
curring) ; Hall v. St. Helena Parish School Board, 197 F. Supp. 
649, 658 (E D  La. 1961), aff’d per curiam, 368 U.S. 515 (1962).

23 “A ny other provisions of law notwithstanding, no child shall 
be compelled to attend any school when in the judgment of the 
parent or guardian of such child attendance in the school to which 
assigned will be detrimental to the physical or emotional health of 
such child or subject the child to hazards to personal safety. In any 
such case, the parent or guardian of such child shall file written 
objections with the local board of education and request transfer 
and reassignment. Upon refusal of any board to grant such a re­
quest, the child shall proceed as provided in section 61(7) of this 
title, or in lieu thereof, submit an application to the state board 
of education for a tuition grant to attend any private nonsectarian 
school in or outside the school attendance district in which the 
child resides. Tuition grants approved by the state hoard shall not 
exceed a total of one hundred eighty-five dollars ($185.00) in any 
one school year, or a sum to be determined by the state superinten­
dent of education to be the cost per pupil in average daily attend­
ance in the public schools of the state, whichever sum shall he less. 
The state board of education shall promulgate rules and regula­
tions for the administration of tuition grants which shall be paid 
only from funds appropriated by the legislature for such purpose. 
It shall he unlawful for any person to use funds granted under this 
chapter for any purpose other than for the payment of tuition in 
school; * * * .” Title 52, § 6 1 (8 ), Code of Alabama.



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of the Brown decision. Lee v. Macon County Board of Edu­
cation, 231 F. Supp. 743 (MD Ala. 1964).24 The first such 
statute, enacted in 1957, authorized tuition grants for stu­
dents attending private nondenominational schools in school 
districts where no public school was available. Chapter 4B 
of Title 52, Code of Alabama, of which the 1957 tuition 
grant statute was a section, authorized each local board of 
education to discontinue operating its public school when 
it found that the continued operation of its public school 
“will be accompanied by such tensions, friction, or potential 
disorder or ill will within the school as substantially to 
impair effective standards or objectives of education of its 
pupils, or by potential impairment of peace, order and 
goodwill in the community, school district, or county in­
volved.” Acts of Alabama 1957, No. 528, § 1 at 723. It 
was pursuant to this chapter that the State Board of 
Education ordered all grades above the seventh grade in 
the Macon County public schools closed and directed that 
payment of tuition grants be made to students residing in 
Macon County where no public schools were available, who 
attended racially segregated private schools. In our July 
13, 1964 order, we found that implementation of the tui­

24 It is appropriate to reiterate our conclusions on this point 
made in our July 13, 1964 order: “ Alabama’s grant-in-aid system 
appears to have been first proposed by the Special Interim Com­
mittee of the Alabama Legislature in 1954. The legislative history 
of the statute subsequently enacted by the Alabama Legislature 
reflects that this Committee was formed to consider means of 
meeting the decision of the Supreme Court in Brown v. Board of 
Education, 347 U.S. 483, 74 S. Ct. 686, 98 L. Ed. 873 (1954). The 
Committee’s report to the Legislature set forth a number of pro­
posals for delaying or avoiding racial desegregation in education, 
and it proposed a number of specific amendments to the Alabama 
Constitution, all of which were ultimately adopted. These grant- 
in-aid laws are all set out in Title 52, Code of Alabama, recompiled 
1958.” 231 P. Supp. at 743, n. 4.



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tion grant statute was unconstitutional and enjoined its 
further use.

It is clear that the present tuition statute was born of 
the same effort to discriminate against Negroes, and was 
designed to fill the vacuum left by this Court’s injunction 
against the 1957 tuition statute. Although the statute is 
cast in terms of making eligibility for a tuition grant turn 
on the parent’s judgment that the child’s attendance at 
public school will be detrimental to the child’s “ physical 
and emotional health,” when read in perspective it turns 
eligibility for tuition on the parent’s dissatisfaction with

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sending his child to a desegregated public school. Prior 
to 1965-66, §61(8) said as much on its face. It authorized 
the parent or guardian of any child attending “ any school 
in which the races are commingled” to terminate the child’s 
attendance there. The amendment simply substituted for 
the objective test—commingling of races—the subjective 
test that now appears in the statute—“ judgment” of the 
parant or guardian. Significantly, every dollar paid during 
the 1965-66 school year went to students enrolled in all- 
white private schools established when the public schools 
desegregated.

Finally, it is also important to emphasize that the state 
has failed to advance any rational basis on which to explain 
the statute. Eligibility for a tuition grant does not turn 
on the inadequacy of public educational facilities to accom­
modate all school-age children in the school district. The 
statute does not manifest state concern for equalizing the 
opportunity of all children, including the poor, to attend 
private schools, for the statute does not require a showing 
of financial need. Nor does the statute exhibit state con­
cern for improving the educational opportunities of special



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classes of students—those who may be gifted or those who 
may be handicapped. Although the statute applies only to 
public school pupils, it may not be invoked by pupils in 
public schools who wish to attend private schools for rea­
sons such as superior instruction, smaller classes, and so 
forth. The statute narrows its focus on an extremely 
limited class of students—those students whose physical 
or emotional health would be adversely affected or whose 
safety might be jeopardized by attending public schools. 
Since neither of these conditions can be demonstrated to 
have any rational basis in fact, there can be only one way 
to explain the statute: it is designed to aid and assist 
private discrimination of the kind which would be con­
demned if attempted directly by the state. As such, the 
statute is unconstitutional.

It is appropriate to observe in concluding this aspect of 
the case that it is now becoming apparent that the State 
of Alabama is attempting to make a concerted effort to 
establish and support a separate and private school system 
for white students. Twice in less than three years this 
Court has had to strike down tuition grant provisions de­
signed to achieve this end. Moreover, the Governor has 
officially encouraged private contributions to support the 
many private schools throughout the state as alternatives 
to the public desegregated school system.25 Up to this point,

25 “ [Y]our  . . . donations . . . will help people in our State who 
are being forced to conduct private schools because of the destruc­
tion of their public schools.

“ This group, made up of representatives of the various private 
schools, will see that your contribution is distributed to these 
schools on an equitable basis. These people— these parents— are 
fighting for their freedom too— a freedom that affects all of us 
and I hope that you will join me in helping those whose schools 
have been taken away from them.”  (Emphasis added.)



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this Court has used its injunctive powers to prevent the 
State of Alabama from establishing a separate school sys- 
ten for white children. It must be made perfectly clear, 
however, that if the state persists in its efforts dedicated 
to this end, and its involvement with the private school 
system continues to be “ significant,” 26 then this “private” 
system will have become a state actor within the meaning 
of the Fourteenth Amendment and will need to be brought 
under this Court’s state-wide desegregation order.

V. The Eelief

A. General, N ature

As has been outlined in some detail, the defendant state 
officials have engaged in a wide range of activities to main­
tain segregated public education throughout the State of 
Alabama. These activities have been concerned with and 
have controlled virtually every aspect of public education 
in the state, including site selection, construction, consoli­
dation, assignment of teachers, allocation of funds, trans­
portation, vocational education, and the assignment of stu­
dents.

The remedy to which these plaintiffs are constitutionally 
entitled must be designed to reach the limits of the defen­
dants’ activities in these several areas and must be de­
signed to require the defendants to do what they have been 
unwilling to do on their own—to discharge their con­
stitutional obligation to disestablish in each of the local 
county and city school systems in Alabama that are not 
already operating under a United States court order, the

26 Burton  v. Wilmington Parking Authority, 365 U.S. 715, 722, 
81 S. Ct. 856, 6 L. Ed. 2d 45 (1961). See cases in footnote 22, 
supra. And see Simkins v. Moses II. Cone Memorial Hospital, 323 
F. 2d 959 (4th Cir. 1963).



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dual public school system to the extent that it is based upon 
race or color. In this connection, the State of Alabama 
and particularly the defendant state officials are under an 
affirmative constitutional duty to take whatever corrective 
action is necessary to disestablish such a system. Faculty 
members and staff members, facilities and activities, as 
well as student bodies, must be desegregated to such an 
extent that there no longer exists in the Alabama public 
school system discrimination of any sort or to any degree 
that is based upon race or color.

This Court can conceive of no other effective way to 
give the plaintiffs the relief to which they are entitled 
under the evidence in this case than to enter a uniform

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state-wide plan for school desegregation, made applicable 
to each local county and city system not already under 
court order to desegregate, and to require these defen­
dants to implement it. Only in this way can uniform, ex­
peditious and substantial progress be attained, and only 
in this way can the defendant state officials discharge the 
constitutional duty that was placed upon them twelve years 
ago in Brown v. Board of Education, supra. It cannot 
seriously be contended that the defendants do not have 
the authority and control necessary to accomplish this re­
sult. Certainly the possibility of losing state funds for 
failure to abide by and implement the minimum constitu­
tional requirements for school desegregation which this 
opinion and the accompanying decree require will, without 
any doubt, effect compliance. Indeed, it is quite clear from 
the evidence in this case that the local school officials will, 
through economic necessity if for no other reason, abide 
by the orders and regulations of these state officials and, in 
most instances, will be relieved to find themselves no longer 
under the pressures and exhortations of these defendants



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to abrogate their clear constitutional duties in this area. 
The local officials should, after the entry of this opinion 
and the accompanying decree, be able to return to the 
teaching of students and dealing with the related educa­
tional problems rather than expending their time and en­
ergies trying to tread the difficult “middle ground” between 
conflicting federal and state demands.

The argument that this Court is proceeding without 
jurisdiction over indispensable parties to this litigation, 
to-wit, local school boards throughout the state, is not 
persuasive. We are dealing here with state officials, and 
all we require at this time is that those officials affirma­
tively exercise their control and authority to implement a 
plan on a state-wide basis designed to insure a reasonable 
attainment of equal educational opportunities for all chil­
dren in the state regardless of their race. It may be that 
in some instances a particular school district will need to 
be brought directly into the litigation to insure that the 
defendant state officials have implemented this Court’s 
decree and that the state is not supporting, financially or 
otherwise, a local system that is being operated on an un­
constitutional basis. Hopefully, these instances will be the 
exception and not the rule. Clearly this possibility does not 
diminish the propriety of the state-wide relief to be ordered. 
Having already resolved this issue of state-wide relief 
against the defendants in the order made and entered in 
Lee, et al., United States of America, Amicus Curiae v. 
Macon County Board of Education, July 13, 1964, 231 F. 
Supp. 743, further discussion and analysis is not necessary.

B. Other  Considerations

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Invariably in this area of our country the “ freedom of 

choice” plan has been chosen by the courts and the school



systems themselves as the method to effectuate the require­
ments of the Fourteenth Amendment in the held of de­
segregation of public educational facilities. This is the 
plan which this Court will require—for the time being— 
these defendant officials to implement throughout the State 
of Alabama.27 This Court recognizes that in the freedom 
of choice plan there are many administrative complexities. 
It may be that these administrative problems will make 
some other method advisable in the future. It may well 
be that the freedom of choice method of desegregation 
will not fully and completely disestablish the dual public 
school system based upon race.28 However, for the time 
being, provided that all of the factors designed to influence 
and having the effect of influencing choice be eliminated, 
the freedom of choice plan will be put into effect upon a 
state-wide basis. It should be emphasized that, if choice 
influencing factors are not eliminated, freedom of choice 
is a fantasy. A “ freedom of choice” plan ordered by a court 
or adopted by school authorities is not an end in itself; 
it is but a means to an end. The plan must operate in 
such a manner as to meet the constitutional mandate of 
the Fourteenth Amendment. As was stated in the con­
curring opinion in Bradley v. School Board, 345 F. 2d 310, 
323:

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Affirmative action means more than telling those who 
have long been deprived of freedom of educational

27 The reasons are obvious why school officials have not chosen 
other plans such as the “neighborhood school” plan, for under 
such a plan white students would be immediately required to at­
tend Negro schools located in their neighborhoods.

28 The United States Supreme Court has not yet ruled on the 
freedom of choice method of ending racial segregation in the field 
of public education. However, Goss v. Board of Education, 373 
U.S. 683, 83 S.Ct. 1405, 10 L.Ed.2d 632 (1963), has been cited 
as support for such a plan. See Bradley v. School Board of City 
of Richmond, 345 F.2d 310, 318 (4th Cir. 1965).



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opportunity, “ You now have a choice.” In many in­
stances the choice will not be meaningful unless the 
administrators are willing to bestow extra effort and 
expense to bring the deprived pupils up to the level 
where they can avail themselves of the choice in fact 
as well as in theory. . . . The district judge must de­
termine whether the means exist for the exercise of a 
choice that is truly free and not merely pro forma.

In short, the measure of a freedom of choice plan—or, 
for that matter, any school plan designed to eliminate dis­
crimination based upon race— is whether it is effective. 
I f the plan does not work, then this Court, as well as the 
State of Alabama school officials—both state and local—is 
under a constitutional obligation to find some other method 
to insure that the dual school system of public education 
based upon race is eliminated. In adopting this plan, there-

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fore, we stress again that it may be only an interim plan. 
Its success will be periodically judged in the light of the 
criteria herein set out. For this and all other purposes, 
jurisdiction will be retained.

The decree and injunction heretofore issued in this case 
will be enlarged as herein indicated and a formal decree 
will be entered accordingly.

Done, this the 22nd day of March, 1967.

B ichard T. B ives

United States Circuit Judge

H. H. Grooms

United States District Judge

F ran k  M. J oh n so n , Jr.
United States District Judge



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DECREE
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It is Ordered, A djudged and D ecreed that the Alabama 
State Board of Education, Mrs. Lurleen Burns Wallace, 
Governor of the State of Alabama and President of the 
Alabama State Board of Education, James D. Nettles, Ed 
Dannelly, Mrs. Carl Strang, Fred L. Merrell, W. M. Beck, 
Victor P. Poole, W. C. Davis, Cecil Word, and Rev. Harold
C. Martin, members of the Alabama State Board of Edu­
cation, and Ernest Stone, Executive Officer and Secretary 
of the Alabama State Board of Education, and Alabama 
State Superintendent of Education, together with their 
agents, servants, employees, successors in office, and all 
those in active concert or participation with them who re­
ceive actual notice of this decree or any of them, shall be 
and hereby are permanently enjoined from discriminating 
on the basis of race in the operation or the conduct of the 
public schools of Alabama or in any manner pertaining to 
the public schools of Alabama. As set out more particularly 
in the body of this decree, said defendants shall take 
affirmative action to disestablish all state enforced or en­
couraged public school segregation and to eliminate the 
effects of past state enforced or encouraged racial dis­
crimination in their activities and their operation of the 
public school systems throughout the State.

It is further Ordered, A djudged and D ecreed that:

I

School Construction and Consolidation

A. The State Superintendent of Education shall require 
all local school systems that have been the subject of a



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survey conducted by or under the auspices of the State 
Department of Education to submit to him, prior to the 
commencement of the 1967-68 school year, all plans that 
have been formulated or adopted for the consolidation of 
any schools in their systems that had at the time of the 
survey, or now have, fewer students than required under 
the minimum-student standards of the State Department of

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Education.

B. The State Superintendent of Education shall con­
tinue to conduct surveys of the local school systems 
throughout the State, and require that those conducting the 
surveys shall:

1. Continue to collect and report data regarding 
the residence of students and the attendance at schools 
by race;

2. Not fail to recommend consolidation because de­
segregation would result;

3. Recommend, to the extent consistent with the 
proper operation of the school system as a whole, that 
consolidation shall be achieved in a manner to effect 
desegregation of the schools of the system;

4. Recommend, to the extent consistent with the 
proper operation of the school system as a whole, that 
the location, grades and capacity of new schools and 
expansions of existing school plants be such as to 
effect desegregation of the schools of the system.

C. Approval by the State Superintendent of Education 
of all sites upon which schools are to be constructed or 
existing facilities expanded shall not be based on any sur­



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vey conducted prior to the entry of this decree, or any sur­
vey that does not accord with the standards set forth above 
in paragraph B.

D. Approval by the State Superintendent of Educa­
tion of all sites upon which schools are to be constructed 
or existing facilities expanded shall be withheld if, judged 
in light of the capacity of existing facilities, the residence 
of the students, and the alternative sites available, the con­
struction will not, to the extent consistent with the proper 
operation of the school system as a whole, further the dis­
establishment of state enforced or encouraged public school 
segregation and eliminate the effects of past state enforced 
or encouraged racial discrimination by the State public 
school system.

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II

Teachers

A. The State Superintendent of Education shall develop 
a detailed program for assisting and encouraging faculty 
desegregation in the local school systems throughout the 
State for implementation prior to the 1967-68 school year 
and shall submit this program to the Court and all parties 
within 60 days after the entry of this Court’s decree. The 
program should, at a minimum, establish ways in which 
the State Department of Education will assist local sys­
tems in recruiting, and in planning for the placing of newT 
teachers and reassigning of old teachers on a desegregated 
basis so that by the fall of 1967, insofar as it is adminis­
tratively feasible, no school located in a school district 
where students of both races are in attendance listed in 
Section IV  of this decree will have teachers of only one 
race. The program should also provide for assistance in



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providing training which may be necessary to upgrade the 
qualifications of some teachers in order to facilitate de­
segregation of faculty. The program should provide for 
further progress after 1967-68 to help said local school 
systems stay in compliance with constitutional require­
ments in the area of public school desegregation.

B. Any services made available by the State Superin­
tendent of Education to assist local school hoards to locate 
and employ suitable teachers, or to assist teachers to find 
suitable positions, shall be provided in a manner to effect 
faculty desegregation in the public schools throughout the 
State.

C. The State Superintendent of Education shall not give 
force or effect to that provision of Section 339 of Title 52 
of the Alabama Code which requires that separate teacher 
institutes be held for Negro and white teachers; and he 
shall direct that a single, system-wide teacher institute be 
held in each local school system for the 1967-68 school 
year, and for each school year thereafter, and that such 
institutes be conducted in a nondiscriminatory manner.

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D. The State Superintendent of Education shall con­

duct all in-service training programs on a desegregated 
basis.

E. The State Superintendent of Education shall apply 
certification requirements without discrimination on the 
basis of race, and shall not apply certification require­
ments, or grant provisional certificates, in a manner to 
perpetuate faculty segregation or to avoid faculty de­
segregation.

F. The State Superintendent of Education shall inform 
all applicants for certification that the school systems



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throughout the State are obliged to desegregate their fac­
ulties, and that teachers are subject to assignment in ac­
cordance with that obligation.

I l l

School Transportation

A. The defendant state officials shall require all local 
school boards listed in Section IV of this decree, prior to 
the commencement of the 1967-68 school year, to eliminate 
race as a basis for assigning students to school buses and 
to eliminate overlapping and duplicative bus routes based 
on race.

B. The defendant state officials shall require all of said 
local school boards, prior to the commencement of the 
1967-68 school year, to establish nondiscriminatory criteria 
governing the availability of bus transportation to students 
within the school district. These criteria, at a minimum, 
should entitle each student to be transported to the school 
he attends if that school is the one nearest his residence 
and if that school is at least two miles from his residence.

C. The State Superintendent of Education shall require 
all local school boards listed in Section IV of this decree 
to submit to him for approval within 60 days after the 
entry of this decree their proposed bus routes and criteria

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governing the eligibility for bus transportation. The State 
Superintendent shall approve or disapprove the proposed 
routes and criteria, within 30 days of receiving them, ac­
cording to the standards set forth in the preceding para­
graphs A  and B of this section, and, to the extent that he 
disapproves them, he shall notify the local systems of their 
deficiencies.



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D. The State Superintendent of Education shall require 
all of said local school boards to communicate those routes 
and criteria he has approved to students and parents of 
the school districts in a readily understandable manner 
and substantially before the opening of the 1967-68 school 
year. The local school authorities shall notify parents and 
children, prior to the choice period, that the bus routes and 
criteria governing the eligibility for bus transportation are 
being revised and will be established on a nondiscrimina- 
tory basis.

E. Whatever technical assistance is made available by 
the State Superintendent for assisting said local school 
boards in meeting school transportation problems shall be 
provided in a manner to assist the local school boards to 
eliminate overlapping and duplicative bus routes based on 
race and to formulate nondiscriminatory criteria regard­
ing eligibility of students for transportation.

Desegregation Plans for Local School Systems

The State Superintendent of Education shall notify the 
following school systems that they are required to adopt 
a desegregation plan for all grades commencing with the 
1967-68 school year that meets the standards embodied in 
the plan attached to this decree and designated as Exhibit

IV

“A ” :

Alexander City
Andalusia
Anniston
Athens
Attalla

Auburn
Autauga County 
Baldwin County
Bibb County —346—
Blount County



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Brewton 
Butler County 
Calhoun County 
Carbon Hill 
Chambers County 
Cherokee County 
Chilton County 
Clarke County 
Clay County 
Cleburne County 
Coffee County 
Colbert County 
Conecuh County 
Coosa County 
Covington County 
Cullman
Cullman County 
Dale. County 
Daleville 
Dallas County 
Decatur
DeKalb County 
Demopolis 
Dothan 
Elba
Elmore County 
Enterprise 
Escambia County 
Etowah County 
Eufaula 
Fayette County 
Florala

Florence 
Fort Payne 
Franklin County 
Geneva County 
Greene County 
Henry County 
Houston County 
Jackson County 
J acksonville 
Jasper
Lamar County 
Lanett
Lauderdale County 
Lee County 
Limestone County 
Linden
Marengo County 
Marion
Marion County
Marshall County
Monroe County
Morgan County
Mountain Brook
Muscle Shoals
Oneonta
Opelika
Opp
Ozark
Phenix City 
Pickens County 
Piedmont 
Pike County



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Randolph County 
Roanoke 
Russell County 
Russellville 
St. Clair County

Tallapoosa County
Tallassee
Tarrant
Thomasville
Troy
Tuscaloosa 
Tuscaloosa County 
Tuscumbia 
Walker County 
Washington County

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Scottsboro
Selma
Sheffield
Shelby County 
Sumter County 
Svlacauga 
Talladega Winston County

Winfield

Talladega County

The State Superintendent of Education shall inform 
these local school systems that the desegregation plan is 
to be adopted within 20 days from the entry of this decree; 
and within 25 days from the entry of this decree the State 
Superintendent shall submit a report to this Court and to 
all parties informing them of the action taken by him to 
discharge this obligation and the results of that action.

Institutions Under State Board of Education Control

No person shall be denied admission to any trade school, 
junior college, or state college1 administered by the Ala­

1 The term “state college,” as used herein, includes all state 
colleges or universities except the University of Alabama, Auburn 
University, University of South Alabama at Mobile, and Alabama 
College at Montevallo, which institutions have separate boards 
of trustees and are not administered by the Alabama State Board 
of Education.

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bama State Board of Education upon the ground of race, 
nor shall he be subjected to racial discrimination in con­
nection with his application for enrollment in or his at­
tendance at any such trade school, junior college, or state 
college. Dual attendance zones based on race for such trade 
schools, junior colleges, and state colleges shall be abol­
ished. The State Department of Education shall direct 
such trade schools, junior colleges, and state colleges to 
recruit, hire, and assign teachers so as to desegregate 
faculty and to accomplish some faculty desegregation in 
each such trade school, junior college, and state college by 
September 1967.

Equalisation of Facilities

The State Superintendent of Education shall develop, 
and submit to this Court and all the parties within 120 
days after the entry of this decree, a detailed program for 
bringing the quality of the physical facilities, equipment, 
services, courses of instruction, and instructional materials 
of schools previously maintained for Negro students up 
to the level in schools previously maintained for white 
students. This program shall eliminate those disparities 
reflected in different pupil-teacher ratios, survey classifica­
tions of buildings and sites, per pupil expenditures, valua­
tion of school property, library books per pupil, course 
offerings, accreditation, and transportation. In connection 
with applications for teacher units for vocational teachers 
or teachers of exceptional children, the State Superinten­
dent of Education shall consider and grant those applica­
tions that satisfy educational requirements and had been 
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schools traditionally maintained for Negro students, prior 
to acting upon other applications for such units.

YII

Information and Reports

A. The State Superintendent of Education shall make, 
at reasonable times and places, and upon reasonable no­
tice, the following available to all parties:

1. All consolidation plans submitted to him by local 
school boards pursuant to the requirements of para­
graph A of Section I of this decree.

2. All survey reports hereafter conducted pursuant 
to paragraph B of Section I of this decree.

3. All applications and records of action by the 
State Superintendent of Education regarding the ap­
proval or disapproval of school construction or ex­
pansion, together with all information relating to the

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sites, including the pertinent survey reports.

4. All documents relating to teacher institutes and 
to in-service training programs, including a report 
giving the number of teachers that attended each in­
stitute, the schools the teachers were from, and the 
race of the teachers.

5. All proposals of the local school boards relating 
to the routing of school buses and the criteria govern­
ing eligibility for bus transportation that are sub­
mitted to the State Superintendent for his approval 
under paragraph C of Section III of this decree, to­
gether with a report indicating which proposals have



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been approved and when and how students and parents 
in the various school systems throughout the State 
were informed of these routes and criteria.

6. All records pertaining to action taken by the 
State Superintendent of Education with respect to ap­
plications for teacher units for teachers of exceptional 
children and vocational education teachers.

7. Records indicating the State Superintendent’s 
action with respect to provisional teaching certificates, 
and a report indicating how applicants for certification 
were informed of the obligation of the local systems 
regarding faculty desegregation.

8. Records showing the attendance zones, bus 
routes, racial composition of faculty, and racial com­
position of student body for each trade school, junior 
college, and state college.

B. The State Superintendent of Education shall sub­
mit to the Clerk of this Court and serve upon all parties:

1. Within 60 days after the entry of this decree 
the detailed program regarding faculty desegregation 
required by paragraph A of Section II of this decree.

2. Within 120 days after the entry of this decree
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the detailed program regarding school equalization 
required by Section VI of this decree.

3. Within 25 days after entry of this decree, a re­
port on the action taken by the State Superintendent 
of Education respecting the 99 school districts listed 
in Section IV of this decree, and the results of that 
action.



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4. A report, which must be submitted by October 5 
each year, setting forth the following information with 
respect to the local school systems listed in Section 
IV of this decree:

(a) The number of students by race, in each grade 
of each school for the current school year ;

(b) The number of faculty members of each race 
assigned to each school for the current school year, 
together with the number of faculty vacancies or 
new positions, by school, that have arisen or have 
been filled by the school board since the last report; 
and

(c) The number of students that have requested 
to transfer from the schools they were assigned to, 
together with a description of the action taken by 
the local school board on such requests and the rea­
sons therefor.

5. A report, which must be submitted on or before 
June 15 of each year, setting forth the following in­
formation with respect to each school system listed 
in Section IV of this decree:

The number of choice applications received for 
each grade, the number of choices granted and de­
nied, and the reasons for all denials.

IX

Interference

The defendant state officials should not interfere with,
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prevent or obstruct by any means the elimination of racial 
discrimination by local school officials in any school system 
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X

The 1965-1966  Tuition Grant Statute

Title 52, Section 61(8), Code of Alabama (Tuition Grant 
Statute, No. 687, approved September 1, 1965), is hereby 
declared unconstitutional. The defendant state officials, 
their agents, employees, and successors in office shall not 
approve or permit the approval or the payment of any 
tuition grants or grants-in-aid under the authority of this 
law.

It is further Okdered that the United States submit to 
this Court within 30 days, and serve upon all parties, a 
report informing the Court whether any of the school sys­
tems listed in Section IV of this decree have failed, fol­
lowing the entry of this Court’s decree, to adopt a satis­
factory desegregation plan.

It is further O rdered that the costs of this action be 
and they are hereby taxed against the defendant state of­
ficials.

It is further Ordered that jurisdiction of this cause be 
and it is hereby retained.

Done, this the 22nd day of March, 1967.

R ichard T. R ives 
United States Circuit Judge

H. H. Grooms 
United States District Judge

F r an k  M. J oh nson , J r. 
United States District Judge



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EXHIBIT “A ”

Desegregation Plan

The .............................. Board of Education will take the
following affirmative action to disestablish all state en­
forced or encouraged public school segregation and to 
eliminate the effects of past state enforced or encouraged 
racial discrimination in the operation of the school system:

I

Exercise of Choice

The following provisions will apply to all grades com­
mencing with the 1967-68 school year:

A. Who May Exercise Choice. A choice of schools may 
be exercised by a parent or other adult person serving as 
the student’s parent. A  student ma}  ̂exercise his own choice 
if he (1) is exercising a choice for the ninth or a higher 
grade, or (2) has reached the age of fifteen at the time of 
the exercise of choice. Such a choice by a student is con­
trolling unless a different choice is exercised for him by 
his parent or other adult person serving as his parent 
during the choice period or at such later time as the stu­
dent exercises a choice. Each reference in this plan to 
a student’s exercising a choice means the exercise of the 
choice, as appropriate, by a parent or such other adult, or 
by the student himself.

B. Annual Exercise of Choice. All students, both white 
and Negro, will be required to exercise a free choice of 
schools annually.

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C. Choice Period. The period for exercising choice will 
commence May 1, 1967, and end Jnne 1, 1967, and in sub­
sequent years will commence March 1 and end March 31 
preceding the school year for which the choice is to be 
exercised. No student or prospective student who exer­
cises his choice within the choice period will be given any 
preference because of the time within the period when 
such choice was exercised.

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D. Mandatory Exercise of Choice. A failure to exercise 

a choice within the choice period will not preclude any stu­
dent from exercising a choice at any time before he com­
mences school for the year with respect to which the choice 
applies, but such choice may be subordinated to the choices 
of students who exercised choice before the expiration of 
the choice period. Any student who has not exercised his 
choice of school within a week after school opens will be 
assigned to the school nearest his home where space is 
available under standards for determining available space 
which will be applied uniformly throughout the system.

E. Public Notice. On or within a week before the date 
the choice period opens, the school board will arrange for 
the conspicuous publication of a notice describing the pro­
visions of this plan in the newspaper most generally circu­
lated in the community. The text of the notice will be 
substantially similar to the text of the explanatory letter 
sent home to parents. Publication as a legal notice will not 
be sufficient. Copies of this notice will also be given at that 
time to all radio and television stations serving the com­
munity. Copies of this plan will be posted in each school 
in the school system and at the office of the Superintendent 
of Education.



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F. Mailing of Explanatory Letters and Choice Forms. 
On the first day of the choice period there will be distrib­
uted an explanatory letter and a choice form to the parent 
(or other adult person acting as parent, if known to the 
school board) of each student, together with a return en­
velope addressed to the Superintendent. The text for the 
explanatory letter and choice form will essentially conform 
to the sample letter and choice form appended to this plan.

G. Extra Copies of the Explanatory Letter and Choice 
Form. Extra copies of the explanatory letter and choice 
form will be freely available to parents, students, prospec­
tive students, and the general public at each school in the

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system and at the office of the Superintendent of Educa­
tion during the times of the year when such schools are 
usually open.

H. Content of Choice Form. Each choice form will set 
forth the name and location of and grades offered at each 
school and may require of the person exercising the choice 
the name, address, age of student, school and grade cur­
rently or most recently attended by the student, the school 
chosen, the signature of one parent or other adult person 
serving as parent, or where appropriate the signature of 
the student, and the identity of the person signing. No 
statement of reasons for a particular choice, or any other 
information, or any witness or other authentication, will 
will be required or requested.

I. Return of Choice Form. At the option of the person 
completing the choice form, the choice may be returned 
by mail, in person, or by messenger to any school in the 
school system or to the office of the Superintendent.



J. Choices Not on Official Form. The exercise of choice 
may also be made by the submission in like manner of any 
other writing which contains information sufficient to 
identify the student and indicates that he has made a 
choice of school.

Iv. Choice Forms Binding. When a choice form has 
once been submitted and the choice period has expired, 
the choice is binding for the entire school year and may 
not be changed except in cases of parents making different 
choices for their children under the conditions set forth 
in paragraph I-A of this plan and in exceptional cases 
where, absent the consideration of race, a change is edu­
cationally called for or where compelling hardship is shown 
by the student.

L. Preference in Assignment. In assigning students to 
schools, no preference will be given to any student for prior 
attendance at a school and except with the approval of 
the State Superintendent of Education in extraordinary 
circumstances, no choice will be denied for any reason 
other than overcrowding. In case of overcrowding at any 
school, preference will be given on the basis of proximity

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of the school to the homes of the students choosing it, 
without regard to race or color. Standards for determin­
ing overcrowding will be applied uniformly throughout the 
system.

M. Second Choice Where First Choice Is Denied. Any 
student whose choice is denied will be promptly notified in 
writing and given his choice of any school in the school 
system serving his grade level where space is available. 
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of a denial of first choice in which to exercise a second 
choice.

N. Transportation. Where transportation is generally 
provided, buses will be routed to the maximum extent fea­
sible in light of the geographic distribution of students, so 
as to serve each student choosing any school in the system. 
Every student choosing the school nearest his residence 
must be transported to the school to which he is assigned 
under these provisions, whether or not it is his first choice, 
if that school is at least two miles from his residence. The 
school system will adopt nondiscriminatory bus routes 
and criteria governing the availability of bus transporta­
tion to students, so that race will not be a basis for as­
signing students to school buses and overlapping and 
duplicative bus routes based on race will be eliminated. 
Prior to the choice period, parents and children will be 
advised that such routes and criteria will be adopted, and 
substantially prior to the opening of the 1967-68 school 
year the parents and children will be notified of the routes 
and criteria, in a readily understandable manner.

O. Officials Not to Influence Choice. At no time shall 
any official, teacher, or employee of the school system in­
fluence any parent, or other adult person serving as a 
parent, or any student, in the exercise of a choice or favor 
or penalize any persons because of a choice made. If the 
school board employs professional guidance counselors,

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such persons will base their guidance and counseling on the 
individual student’s particular personal, academic, and 
vocational needs. Such guidance and counseling by teach­
ers as well as professional guidance counselors will be 
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P. Protection of Persons Exercising Choice. Within 
their authority, school officials are responsible for the pro­
tection of persons exercising rights under or otherwise 
affected by this plan. They will, without delay, take ap­
propriate action with regard to any student or staff mem­
ber who interferes with the successful operation of the 
plan. Such interference will include harassment, intimida­
tion, threats, hostile words or acts, and similar behavior. 
The school board will not publish, allow, or cause to be 
published, the names or addresses of pupils exercising 
rights or otherwise affected by this plan. If officials of 
the school system are not able to provide sufficient protec­
tion, they will seek whatever assistance is necessary from 
other appropriate officials.

II

Prospective Students

Each prospective new student will be required to exer­
cise a choice of schools before or at the time of enroll­
ment. Each such student known to the school system will 
be furnished a copy of the prescribed letter to parents, 
and choice form, by mail or in person, on the date the 
choice period opens or as soon thereafter as the school 
system learns that he plans to enroll. Where there is no 
preregistration procedure for newly entering students, 
copies of the choice forms will be available at the office 
of the Superintendent and at each school during the time 
the school is usually open.

I l l

Services, Facilities, Activities And Programs

No student will be segregated or discriminated against 
on account of race or color in any service, facility, activity,



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or program (including transportation, athletics, or other 
extra-curricular activity) that can be conducted or spon-

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sored by or affiliated with the school in which he is en­
rolled. A student attending school for the first time on 
a desegregated basis will not be subject to any disqualifica­
tion or waiting period for participation in activities and 
programs, including athletics, which might otherwise apply 
because he is a transfer or newly assigned student except 
that such transferees shall be subject to longstanding, 
nonracially based rules of city, county, or state athletic 
associations dealing with the eligibility of transfer students 
for athletic contests. All school use or school sponsored 
use of athletic fields, meeting rooms, and all other school 
related services, facilities, activities, and programs such 
as commencement exercises and parent-teacher meetings 
which are open to persons other than enrolled students, 
will be open to all persons without regard to race or color. 
All special educational programs conducted by the school 
system will be conducted without regard to race or color.

IV
School Equalization

A. Inferior Schools. In schools heretofore maintained 
for Negro students, the school system will take prompt 
steps necessary to provide physical facilities, equipment, 
courses of instruction, and instructional materials of qual­
ity equal to that provided in schools previously maintained 
for white persons. Conditions of overcrowding, as de­
termined by pupil-teacher ratios and pupil-classroom ratios 
will, to the extent feasible, be distributed evenly between 
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formerly maintained for white students. If for any reason 
it is not feasible to improve sufficiently any school formerly 
maintained for Negro students, where such improvement 
would otherwise be required by this subparagraph, such 
school will be closed as soon as possible, and students en­
rolled in the school will be reassigned on the basis of 
freedom of choice. By October of each year, the school 
board will report to the State Superintendent of Educa­
tion pupil-teacher ratios, pupil-classroom ratios, and per- 
pupil expenditures both as to operating and capital im-

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provement costs, and will outline the steps to be taken 
and the time within which they will accomplish the equaliza­
tion of such schools.

B. Remedial Programs. The school system will provide 
remedial education programs which permit students at­
tending or who have previously attended all-Negro schools 
to overcome past inadequacies in their education.

V

School Construction And Consolidation

To the extent consistent with the proper operation of 
the school system as a whole, the school board will, in 
locating and designing new schools, in expanding existing 
facilities, and in consolidating schools, do so with the ob­
ject of eradicating past discrimination and of effecting 
desegregation. The school board will not build, consoli­
date or expand schools based on recommendations of any 
state survey conducted prior to March 1967 unless the 
state reapproves such building, consolidation or expan­
sion. The school board will not fail to consolidate schools 
because desegregation would result.



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VI

Faculty And Staff

A. Faculty Employment and Assignment. Race or 
color will not be a factor in the hiring, assignment, reas­
signment, promotion, demotion, or dismissal of teachers 
and other professional staff members, including student 
teachers, except that race will be taken into account for 
the purpose of correcting the effect of the past segregated 
assignment of teachers in the dual system. Teachers, prin­
cipals, and staff members will be assigned to schools so 
that the faculty and staff is not composed exclusively of 
members of one race. Wherever possible, teachers will be 
assigned so that more than one teacher of the minority 
race (white or Negro) will be on a desegregated faculty. 
The school board will take affirmative steps to accomplish 
the desegregation of its school faculties, including substan­
tial desegregation of faculties in as many of the schools as 
possible for the 1967-68 school year. The objective of the

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school system is that the pattern of teacher assignment to 
any particular school shall not be identifiable as tailored 
for a heavy concentration of either Negro or white pupils 
in the school. The school system will accomplish faculty 
desegregation in a manner whereby the abilities, experi­
ence, specialties, and other qualifications of both white 
and Negro teachers in the system will be, insofar as ad­
ministratively feasible, distributed evenly among the vari­
ous schools of the system.

B. Dismissals. Teachers and other professional staff 
members will not be discriminatorily assigned, dismissed, 
demoted, or passed over for retention, promotion, or re­



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hiring, on the ground of race or color. In any instance 
where one or more teachers or other professional staff 
members are to be displaced as a result of desegregation, 
no staff vacancy in the school system will be tilled through 
recruitment from outside the system unless no such dis­
placed staff member is qualified to fill the vacancy. If, as 
a result of desegregation, there is to he a reduction in the 
total professional staff of the school system, the qiialifica- 
tions of all staff members in the system will be evaluated 
in selecting the staff member to be released without con­
sideration of race or color. A report containing any such 
proposed dismissals, and the reasons therefor, shall be 
filed with the State Superintendent of Education.

V II

Reports

A. Report on Choice Period. The school system will 
file with the State Superintendent of Education on or be­
fore June 10 of each year a report tabulating by race the 
number of choice applications and transfer applications 
received for enrollment in each grade in each school in 
the system, and the number of choices and transfers 
granted and the number of denials in each grade of each 
school. The report will also state any reasons relied upon 
in denying choice and shall tabulate, by school and by race 
of student, the number of choices and transfers denied for 
each such reason.

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B. Report After School Opening. The system will file 

with the State Superintendent of Education within 15 days 
after the opening of schools for the fall semester of each 
year a report setting forth the following information:



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(1) The name, address, grade, school of choice and 
school of present attendance of each student who has 
withdrawn or requested withdrawal of his choice of 
school or who has transferred after the start of the 
school year, together with a description of any action 
taken on his request and the reasons therefor.

(2) The number of faculty vacancies, by school, 
that have occurred or been filled since the adoption of 
this plan or the latest report submitted pursuant to 
this subparagraph. This report shall state the race 
of the teacher employed to fill each such vacancy and 
indicate whether such teacher is newly employed or 
was transferred from within the system. The tabula­
tion of the number of transfers within the system 
shall indicate the schools from which and to which the 
transfers were made. The report shall also set forth 
the number of faculty members of each race assigned 
to each school for the current year.

(3) The number of students by race, in each grade 
of each school.



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EXPLANATORY LETTER 

(School System Name and Office Address)

(Date Sent)

Dear Parent:

All grades in onr school system will be desegregated 
next school year. Any student who will be entering one 
of these grades next year may choose to attend any school 
in our system, regardless of whether that school was 
formerly all white or all Negro. It does not matter which 
school your child is attending this year. You and your 
child may select any school you wish.

Every student, white and Negro, must make a choice of 
schools. If a child is entering the ninth or higher grade, 
or if the child is fifteen years old or older, he may make 
the choice himself. Otherwise a parent or other adult serv­
ing as parent must sign the choice form. A  child enrolling 
in the school system for the first time must make a choice 
of schools before or at the time of his enrollment.

The form on which the choice should be made is attached 
to this letter. It should be completed and returned by June 
1, 1967.* You may mail it in the enclosed envelope, or 
deliver it by messenger or by hand to any school principal 
or to the office of the Superintendent at any time between 
May 1 and June 1. No one may require you to return your 
choice form before June 1 and no preference is given for 
returning the choice form early.

* In subsequent years the dates in both the explanatory letter 
and the choice form should be changed to conform to the choice 
period.

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Js o principal, teacher or other school official is per­
mitted to influence anyone in making a choice or to require 
early return of the choice form. No one is permitted to 
favor or penalize any student or other person because of a 
choice made. A choice once made cannot be changed except 
for serious hardship.

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No child will be denied his choice unless for reasons 

of overcrowding at the school chosen, in which case children 
living nearest the school will have preference.

Transportation will be provided, if reasonably possible, 
no matter what school is chosen. The school board is re­
routing buses and writing new rules for assigning students 
to buses, so that there will be no more overlapping bus 
routes and students will be assigned to buses without re­
gard to race. (Delete if the school system does not pro­
vide transportation.)

Your school board and the school staff will do every­
thing we can to see to it that the rights of all students are 
protected and that desegregation of our schools is carried 
out successfully.

Sincerely,

Superintendent



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CHOICE FORM

This form is provided for you to choose a school for 
your child to attend next school year. You have 30 days 
to make your choice. It does not matter which school your 
child attended last year, and does not matter whether the 
school you choose was formerly a white or a Negro school. 
This form must be mailed or brought to the principal of 
any school in the system or to the office of the Super­
intendent (address), by June 1, 1967. A choice is required 
for each child.

Name of child .............................................................................
(Last) (First) (Middle)

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Address .................................................................

Name of parent or other
adult serving as parent ...................................

I f child is entering first grade, date of birth:

(Month) (Day) (Year)

Grade child is entering ... 

School attended last year



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Choose one of the following schools by marking an X  beside 
the name.

Grades
Name of school Offered Location

( ) ............................................................................ .....................

( ) (All schools in the district, the grades offered by
( ) each, and the location of each will be listed on the 
( ) form prior to its distribution to parents and stu- 
( ) dents.)

( ) ................... ............................................................................

Signature

Date

To be filled in by Superintendent:

School assigned



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Order to Adopt Plan for Desegregation

(Filed June 1,1967)

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I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F oe th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

A rlam  Carr, E t A l .,

vs.
Plaintiffs,

M ontgomery Cou nty  B oard of E ducation ; James W . R u t ­
lan d , J r ., F red B ear, George C. S tarke, George A. 
D ozier, D r . J . E dward W alker , I sabelle B. T homasson 
and D r . R obert P arker, Members of the Montgomery 
County Board of Education; and W alter M cK ee, Su­
perintendent of Education of Montgomery County,

Defendants,
U nited  S tates of A merica,

Amicus Curiae.

DECREE

Upon a hearing pursuant to this Court’s order of April
28, 1967, directing the defendant school system to show 
cause why it should not be required to adopt a desegrega­
tion plan which conforms with the standards embodied in 
United States and Linda Stout, et al. v. Jefferson County 
Board of Education, et al., Fifth Circuit No. 23345, Dec.
29, 1966 (adopted with modifications by the Court, sitting



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en banc, March 29, 1967), and in Exhibit “ A ” attached to 
this Court’s decree of March 22,1967, in the case of Anthony 
T. Lee, et al. v. Macon County Board of Education, et al. 
(Civil Action No. 604-E, three-judge court), it is hereby

Ordered, A djudged and D ecreed that the defendants, 
their agents, officers, employees and successors, and all 
those in active concert or participation with them, shall 
adopt and implement the attached plan for the desegrega­
tion of the public school system of Montgomery County, 
Alabama. It is further

Ordered that this Court specifically retain jurisdiction 
of this cause.

Done, this the 1st day of June, 1967.

F ran k  M. J oh nson , Jr.
United States District Judge



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DESEGREGATION PLAN

The Montgomery County Board of Education will take 
the following affirmative action to disestablish all state 
enforced or encouraged public school segregation and to 
eliminate the effects of past state enforced or encouraged 
racial discrimination in the operation of the school system:

I

Exercise Of Choice

The following provisions will apply to all grades com­
mencing with the 1967-68 school year:

A. Who May Exercise Choice. A  choice of schools may 
be exercised by a parent or other adult person serving as 
the student’s parent. A  student may exercise his own 
choice if he (1) is exercising a choice for the ninth or a 
higher grade, or (2) has reached the age of fifteen at the 
time of the exercise of choice. Such a choice by a student is 
controlling unless a different choice is exercised for him 
by his parent or other adult person serving as his parent 
during the choice period or at such later time as the stu­
dent exercises a choice. Each reference in this plan to a 
student’s exercising a choice means the exercise of the 
choice, as appropriate, by a parent or such other adult, 
or by the student himself.

B. Annual Exercise of Choice. All students, both white 
and Negro, will be required to exercise a free choice of 
schools annually.

C. Choice Period. The period for exercising choice will 
commence March 1 and end March 30 preceding the school

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year for which the choice is to be exercised. No student or 
prospective student who exercises his choice within the 
choice period will he given any preference because of the 
time within the period when such choice was exercised.

D. Mandatory Exercise of Choice. A  failure to exercise 
a choice within the choice period does not preclude any 
student from exercising a choice at any time before he com­
mences school for the year with respect to which the choice 
applies, but such choice may be subordinated to the choice 
of students who exercised choice before the expiration of 
the choice period. Any student who has not exercised his 
choice of school within a week before school opens will be 
assigned to the school nearest his home where space is avail­
able under standards for determining available space which 
will be applied uniformly throughout the system.

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E. Public Notice. On, or within a week before, the date 
the choice period opens, the school board will arrange for 
the conspicuous publication of a notice describing the pro­
visions of this plan in the newspaper most generally cir­
culated in the community. The text of the notice will be 
substantially similar to the text of the explanatory letter 
sent home to parents. Publication as a legal notice will 
not be sufficient. Copies of this notice will also be given 
at that time to all radio and television stations serving the 
community. Copies of this plan will be posted in each 
school in the school system and at the office of the Super­
intendent of Education.

F. Distribution of Explanatory Letters and Choice 
Forms. On the first day of the choice period there will be 
distributed an explanatory letter and a choice form (Ap­



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pendices A  and B) to the parent (or other adult person 
acting as parent, if known to the school board) of each 
student. The distribution of the explanatory letter and 
choice form may be either by mail or by handing them to 
the student for delivery to the parent, or other adult person 
acting as parent. Regardless of the method of distribution, 
the affirmative duty of securing a choice form from each 
student is upon the defendants. The text for the explana­
tory letter and choice form will essentially conform to the 
sample letter and choice form appended to this plan. Extra 
copies of the explanatory letter and choice form will be 
freely available to parents, students, prospective students, 
and the general public at each school in the system and at 
the office of the Superintendent of Education.

G. Return of Choice Form. At the option of the person 
completing the choice form, the choice may be returned by 
mail, in person or by messenger to any school in the school 
system or to the office of the Superintendent.

H. Choices Not on Official Form. The exercise of choice 
may also be made by the submission in like manner of any 
other Avriting which contains information sufficient to iden­
tify the student and indicates that he has made a choice 
of school.

I. Choice Forms Binding. Once a choice form has been 
submitted it is binding for the entire school year, and may 
not be changed except in cases of parents making different 
choices for their children under the conditions set forth 
in paragraph I-A of this plan and in cases where, absent 
the consideration of race, compelling hardship is shown 
by the student.



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J. Preference in Assignment. In assigning students to
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schools, no preference will be given to any student for 
prior attendance at a school and except with the approval 
of the Court in extraordinary circumstances no choice will 
be denied for any reason other than overcrowding. In case 
of overcrowding at any school, preference will be given 
on the basis of proximity of the school to the homes of 
the students choosing it, without regard to race or color. 
Standards for determining overcrowding will be applied 
uniformly throughout the system. All existing attendance 
areas as defined by district lines and feeder school descrip­
tions will be abolished effective 1967.

K. Second Choice Where First Choice Is Denied. Any 
student whose choice is denied will be promptly notified 
in writing and given his choice of any school in the school 
system serving his grade level where space is available. 
The student will have seven calendar days from and after 
the opening of school in which to exercise a second choice.

L. Transportation. Where transportation is generally 
provided, buses will be routed to the maximum extent fea­
sible in light of the geographic distribution of students, so 
as to serve each student choosing any school in the system. 
Every student choosing either the formerly white or the 
formerly Negro school nearest his residence must be trans­
ported to the school to which he is assigned under these 
provisions, whether or not it is his first choice, if that school 
is sufficiently distant from his home to make him eligible 
for transportation under generally applicable transporta­
tion rules. The school system will adopt nondiscriminatory 
bus routes and criteria governing the availability of bus



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transportation to students, so that race will not be a basis 
for assigning students to school buses and overlapping 
and duplicative bus routes based on race will be eliminated. 
Prior to the choice period, parents and children will be 
advised that such routes and criteria will be adopted, and 
substantially prior to the opening of the 1967-68 school 
year the parents and children will be notified of the routes 
and criteria, in a readily understandable manner.

M. Officials Not to Influence Choice. At no time shall 
any official, teacher, or employee of the school system influ­
ence any parent, or other adult person serving as a parent, 
or any student, in the exercise of a choice or favor or 
penalize any person because of a choice made. After the 
expiration of the choice period, the school system will 
make all reasonable efforts to obtain a completed choice 
form from each student who has not exercised a choice. 
I f  the school board employs professional guidance coun­
selors, such persons will base their guidance and counseling 
on the individual student’s particular, personal, academic,

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and vocational needs. Such guidance counselors will be 
available to all students without regard to race or color.

N. Protection of Persons Exercising Choice. Within 
their authority, school officials are responsible for the pro­
tection of persons exercising rights under or otherwise 
affected by this plan. They will, without delay, take ap­
propriate action with regard to any student or staff mem­
ber who interferes with the successful operation of the 
plan. Such interference will include harassment, intimida­
tion, threats, hostile words or acts, and similar behavior. 
The school board will not publish, allow, or cause to be



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published, the names or addresses of pupils exercising 
rights or otherwise affected by this plan. If officials of the 
school system are not able to provide sufficient protection, 
they will seek whatever assistance is necessary from other 
appropriate officials.

II

Prospective Students

Each prospective new student will be required to exercise 
a choice of schools before or at the time of enrollment. 
Each such student known to the school system will be 
furnished, by mail or in person, a copy of the prescribed 
letter to parents and the choice form on the date the 
choice period opens, or as soon thereafter as the school 
system learns that he plans to enroll. Where there is no 
preregistration procedure for newly entering students, 
copies of the choice forms will be available at the office of 
the Superintendent and at each school during the time the 
school is usually open.

I l l

Services, Facilities, Activities and Programs

No student will be segregated or discriminated against 
on account of race or color in any service, facility, ac­
tivity, or program (including transportation, athletics, or 
other extracurricular activity) that may be conducted or 
sponsored by or affiliated with the school in which he is 
enrolled. A  student attending school for the first time on 
a desegregated basis will not be subject to any disqualifica­
tion or waiting period for participation in activities and 
programs, including athletics, which might otherwise apply 
because he is a transfer, or newly assigned, student. All



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school use or school sponsored use of athletic fields, meet­
ing rooms, and all other school related services, facilities, 
activities, and programs such as commencement exercises 
and parent-teacher meetings which are open to persons 
other than enrolled students will be open to all persons 
without regard to race or color. All special educational

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programs conducted by the school system will be conducted 
without regard to race or color.

IV

School Equalization

Prior to the commencement of the 1967-68 school year, 
the following schools will be discontinued as educational 
facilities:

Alice White 
Arrington 
Big Zion 
Tankersley 
Chappell Gray 
G. W. Trenholm 
Lillian Dabney

Lillian Dungee
Waugh
Woodley
Zion Hill
McLean
McLemore
Mt. Zion Road

The Montgomery County Board will design and provide 
remedial education programs to eliminate the effects of past 
discrimination, particularly, the results of the unequal 
and inferior educational opportunities which have been 
offered in the past to Negro students in the Montgomery 
County school system.

Students displaced as a result of the closing of the above- 
listed schools will be assigned to schools, without regard 
to race or color, on a freedom of choice basis as described 
in this plan.



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Expansion of existing school plants to accommodate 
displaced students will be designed to eliminate the dual 
school system. In the remaining schools heretofore main­
tained for Negro students, the school system will take 
promptly the steps necessary to provide physical facili­
ties, equipment, courses of instruction, and instructional 
materials of quality equal that provided in schools pre­
viously maintained for white persons. Conditions of over­
crowding, as determined by pupil-teacher ratios will, to 
the extent feasible, be distributed evenly between schools 
formerly maintained for Negro students and those for­
merly maintained for white students. If for any reason 
it is not feasible to improve sufficiently any school for­
merly maintained for Negro students, where such improve­
ment would otherwise be required by this subparagraph, 
such school will be closed as soon as possible, and students 
reassigned on the basis of freedom of choice. By October 
of each year, the school board will report to the Court 
pupil-teacher ratios, pupil-classroom ratios, and

(Copy illegible)
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V

School Construction and Consolidation

To the extent consistent with the proper operation of the 
school system as a whole, the school board will, in locating 
and designing new schools, in expanding existing facilities, 
and in consolidating schools, do so with the object of erad­
icating past discrimination and of effecting desegregation. 
The school board will not build, consolidate or expand 
schools based on recommendations of any state survey



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conducted prior to March, 19G7, unless the state reapproves 
such building, consolidation or expansion. The school board 
will not fail to consolidate schools because desegregation 
would result.

VI

Faculty and Staff

A. Faculty Employment and Assignment. Race or color 
will not be a factor in the hiring, assignment, reassignment, 
promotion, demotion or dismissal of teachers and other 
professional staff members, including student teachers, ex­
cept that race will be taken into account for the purpose 
of counteracting or correcting the effect of the past seg­
regated assignment of teachers in the dual system. Teach­
ers, principals, and staff members will be assigned to 
schools so that the faculty and staff is not composed ex­
clusively of members of one race. Wherever possible, teach­
ers will be assigned so that more than one teacher of the 
minority race (white or Negro) will be on a desegregated 
faculty. The school board will take positive and affirma­
tive steps to accomplish the desegregation of its school 
faculties, including substantial desegregation of faculties 
in as many of the schools as possible for the 1967-68 school 
year, notwithstanding that teacher contracts for the 1967- 
68 or 1968-69 school year have already been signed and 
approved. The objective of the school system is that the 
pattern of teacher assignment to any particular school shall 
not be identifiable as tailored for a heavy concentration of 
either Negro or wdiite pupils in the school. The school 
system will accomplish faculty desegregation in a manner 
whereby the abilities, experience, specialties, and other 
qualifications of both white and Negro teachers in the sys­



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tem will be, insofar as administratively feasible, distributed 
evenly among the various schools of the system.

B. Dismissals. Teachers and other professional staff 
members will not be discriminatorily transferred, dismissed, 
demoted, or passed over for retention, probation, or re­
hiring on the ground of race or color. In any instance,

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where one or more teachers or other professional staff 
members are to be displaced as a result of desegregation, 
no staff vacancy in the school system will be filled through 
recruitment from outside the system unless no such dis­
placed staff member is qualified to fill the vacancy. If, 
as a result of desegregation, there is to be a reduction 
in the total professional staff of the school system, the 
qualifications of all staff members in the system will be 
evaluated in selecting the staff member to be released with­
out consideration of race or color. A  report containing 
any such proposed dismissals, and the reasons therefor, 
shall be filed with the Court, and copies served upon op­
posing counsel within five (5) days after such dismissal, 
demotion, etc., is proposed.

C. Notice to Neic Staff Members. In the recruitment and 
employment of teachers and other professional personnel, 
all applicants or other prospective employees will be in­
formed that Montgomery County operates a racially de­
segregated school system and that members of its staff 
are subject to assignment in the best interest of the sys­
tem and without regard to the race or color of the par­
ticular employee.

D. Encouragement of Voluntary Faculty Transfers. 
The Superintendent of Schools and his staff will take



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affirmative steps to solicit and encourage teachers presently 
employed to accept transfers to schools in which the ma­
jority of the faculty members are of a race different from 
that of the teacher to be transferred.

V II

Reports to the Court

A. Report on Choice Period. The defendants shall serve 
upon the opposing parties and file with the Court on or 
before June 7 each year a report tabulating by race the 
number of choice applications and transfer applications 
received for enrollment in each grade in each school in the 
system, and the number of choices and transfers granted 
and the number of denials in each grade of each school. 
The report will also state any reasons relied upon in deny­
ing choice and shall tabulate, by school and by race of 
student, the number of choices and transfers denied for 
each such reason.

B. Report on Faculty Assignments. The school officials 
will report to the Court by June 15, and each such date 
until further order by this Court, the planned assignments 
of professional staff to each school for the next school year 
by race and grade or, where appropriate, by subject taught

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or position held and report, as it occurs, any subsequent 
change in planned staff assignments affecting staff de­
segregation.

C. Report After School Opening. The system will file 
with the Court within fifteen (15) days after the opening 
of schools for the fall semester of each year a report 
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(1) The name, address, grade, school of choice and 
school of present attendance of each student who has 
withdrawn or requested withdrawal of his choice of 
school or who has transferred after the start of the 
school year, together with a description of any action 
taken on his request and reasons therefor.

(2) The number of faculty vacancies, by school, that 
have occurred or been filled since the adoption of this 
plan or the latest report submitted pursuant to this 
subparagraph. This report shall state the race of the 
teacher employed to fill each such vacancy and indi­
cate whether such teacher is newly employed or was 
transferred from within the system. The tabulation 
of the number of transfers within the system shall 
indicate the schools from which and to which the trans­
fers were made. The report shall also set forth the 
number of faculty members of each race assigned to 
each school for the current year.

(3) The number of students, by race, in each grade 
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APPENDIX A 

E xplanatory L etter 

(School System Name and Office Address)

(Date Sent)

Dear Parent:

All grades in onr school system will be desegregated 
next school year. Any student who will be entering one of 
these grades next year may choose to attend any school 
in our system, regardless of whether that school was 
formerly all white or all Negro. It does not matter which 
school your child is attending this year. You and your child 
may select any school you wish.

All students, both white and Negro, must make a choice 
of schools. If a child is entering the ninth or higher grade, 
or if the child is fifteen years old or older, he may make 
the choice himself. Otherwise a parent or other adult serv­
ing as parent must sign the choice form. A  child enrolling 
in the school system for the first time must make a choice 
of schools before or at the time of his enrollment.

The form on which the choice should be made is attached 
to this letter. It should be completed and returned by 
March 31, 1968.* You may mail it, or deliver it by mes­
senger or by hand to any school principal, or to the office 
of the Superintendent at any time between March 1 and 
March 31. No one may require you to return your choice

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* In subsequent years the dates in both the explanatory letter 
and the choice form should be changed to conform to the choice 
period.



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form before March 31 and no preference is given for re­
turning the choice form early.

No principal, teacher or other school official is permitted 
to influence anyone in making a choice or to require early 
return of the choice form. No one is permitted to favor 
or penalize any student or other person because of a choice 
made. A choice once made cannot be changed except for 
serious hardship.

No child will be denied his choice unless for reasons 
of overcrowding at the school chosen, in which case children 
living nearest the school will have preference.

Transportation will be provided, if reasonably possible, 
no matter what school is chosen. The school board is re­
routing buses and writing new rules for assigning students 
to buses so that there will be no more overlapping bus routes

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and students will be assigned to buses without regard 
to race.

Your school board and the school staff will do every­
thing we can to see to it that the rights of all students are 
protected and that desegregation of our schools is carried 
out successfully.

Sincerely,

Superintendent



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APPENDIX B 

Choice F orm

This form is provided for you to choose a school for your 
child to attend next school year. You have 30 days to make 
your choice. It does not matter which school your child 
attended last year, and does not matter whether the school 
you choose was formerly a white or a Negro school. This 
form must be mailed or brought to the principal of any 
school in the system or the office of the Superintendent 
(address), by March 31, 1968. A  choice is required for 
each child.

Name of child .............................................................................
(Last) (First) (Middle)

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Address ...............................................................

Name of Parent or other
adult serving as parent ..................................

I f child is entering first grade, date of birth:

(Month) (Day) (Year)

Grade child is entering......................................................

School attended last year ................................................



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Choose one of the following schools by marking 
an X  beside the name.

Grades
Name of School Offered Location

( ) ........................................................................................................

( ) (All schools in the district, the grades offered by
( ) each, and the location of each will be listed on the
( ) form prior to its distribution to parents and
( ) students.)

( ) ........................................................................................................

Signature

Date

To be filled in by Superintendent:

School assigned



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Amicus Curiae Notice of Motion and Motion for 

Further Relief

(Filed August 17, 1967)

In th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

T o : T h e  A ttorneys of R ecord H erein

P lease take notice th at  on , 1967,
at M., or as soon thereafter as counsel may be heard, 
in the courtroom of the United States District Court for 
the Middle District of Alabama, Federal Courthouse Build­
ing, Montgomery, Alabama, the United States, Amicus 
Curiae herein, will move the Court for an order further 
enjoining the defendants from failing to make additional 
assignments and reassignments of faculty members in 
the Montgomery County, Alabama, public school system 
for the purpose of achieving substantial faculty desegre­
gation by the 1967-68 school year and as grounds therefor, 
states that:

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1. On June 1, 1967, the Court entered an order after 

hearing on its order to shoiv cause dated April 28, 1967, 
which provided, inter alia, for substantial desegregation 
of the Montgomery County school system for the 1967-68 
school year.

2. On June 15, 1967, the defendants submitted a report 
on the anticipated faculty assignments for the 1967-68



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school year by school and race. That report shows that 
of the 804 white teachers assigned for the 1967-68 school 
year, 5 are anticipated to be teaching in two Negro high 
schools, and that of 554 Negro teachers, 5 are anticipated 
to be teaching in two predominantly white high schools.

3. From June 15, 1967 through August 15, 1967, only 
three additional faculty assignments have been made which 
have the effect of desegregating the faculties in the Mont­
gomery County public school system.

4. This motion is based upon the pleadings, evidence 
and reports on file in this case and upon evidence to be 
adduced at the hearing on this motion.

J o h n  D oak

Assistant Attorney General

R euben  Obtenbeeg 
Attorney

Department of Justice

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Plaintiffs’ Joining in Motion

(Filed August 30,1967)

U. S. DISTRICT COURT

F or M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orth D ivision

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Now comes the Plaintiffs in the above entitled cause and 
join with the United States in praying for the relief set 
forth in its motion filed on August 17, 1967.

Respectfully submitted,

Gray & S eay

Certificate of Service (omitted in printing)



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Answer to Motion

(Filed September 1,1967)

In th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F ob th e  M iddle D istbict of A labama 
N obthebn D ivision

Now comes the Montgomery County Board of Education, 
et al., defendants in the above entitled cause, and in response 
to the motion for further relief heretofore filed by the 
Amicus Curiae, United States of America, respectfully 
represents and shows unto the Court as follows:

1. The defendants, pursuant to the order of the Court 
dated June 1, 1967, did, on June 15, 1967, file a report with 
the Court showing that for the 1967-68 school year the 
Montgomery County Board of Education has employed 
three white teachers to predominantly Negro Booker Wash­
ington High School; two white teachers to the predomi­
nantly Negro Carver High School; three Negro teachers to 
the predominantly white Lanier High School; and two 
Negro teachers to the predominantly white Lee High 
School. A  copy of this said report is attached hereto and 
made a part hereof as “ Exhibit A ” as if set forth fully 
herein.

A copy of this said report was served on the United 
States of America and on the attorneys for the plaintiff 
by mailing a copy of same to them on June 15, 1967, postage 
prepaid.

2. These defendants further state to the Court that they 
have diligently endeavored to accomplish faculty and staff 
desegregation of the Montgomery County School System.

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These defendants aver that in view of all circumstances
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and since the 1967-68 school year is the first year for faculty 
and staff desegregation in the County, the report as filed 
does show a substantial and good faith compliance with 
this Court’s order.

3. These defendants further show that in further efforts 
to comply in good faith with the orders of this Court, the 
defendants have taken additional positive and affirmative 
steps to accomplish desegregation of faculty by employing 
three white speech teachers to work in all elementary 
schools regardless of race or color. That all substitute 
teachers are listed alphabetically regardless of race or 
color and these lists will be furnished to all principals of 
all schools. The average number of substitute teachers em­
ployed in the system on a school day is 31.

4. These defendants aver that they have accomplished 
all of the desegregation of faculty as is possible for the 
1967-68 school year; that faculty reassignment or re-em­
ployment at this time would be impossible, consistent with 
the best interests of the education of all of the children of 
this County, regardless of race.

5. These defendants aver that neither the United States 
of America, Amicus Curiae, nor the plaintiffs, made any 
objection to the report heretofore filed on June 15, 1967, 
until the date of August 17, 1967, approximately two weeks 
prior to the opening of school and two months after said 
report was filed. Defendants further aver that students 
will commence attendance for the 1967-68 school term on 
September 7, 1967, and faculty meetings in the school sys­
tem with room assignments and equipment assignments 
have already been made.



6. The defendants further aver that the placement of 
faculty and the employment of teachers is of the utmost 
importance to the school system and that in accomplish­
ment of this the most diligent care must be exercised. These

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defendants aver and state to the Court that they have 
employed teachers and made assignments, as referred to 
hereinabove, in a bona tide effort to comply with the Court 
order and to maintain a quality school system in the best 
interests of all school children of this County, regardless 
of race or color.

W herefore, P remises Considered, these defendants pray 
that the Court will dismiss the motion for further relief 
or, in the alternative, will deny the relief therein prayed 
for.

H ill , R obison, B elser and  P helps 
Attorneys for the Defendant

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EXHIBIT “ A ”
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Montgomery Public Schools 

Teaching Staff Assignments as of June 15, 1967

School Negro W hite Total Grades

Baldwin Jr. High 31 31 7-9
Bear 19 19 1-6
Bellinger Hill 8 8 1-6
Bellinger Jr. High 45 45 1-9
Billingslea 7 7 1-6
Booker Washington 

Elem. 17 17 1-6
Booker Washington 

Jr. High 30 30 7-9
Booker Washington 

Sr. High 32 3 C l) 35 10-12
Capitol Heights 

Elem. 17 17 1-6
Capitol Heights 

Jr. High 35 35 7-9
Carver Elementary 24 24 1-6
Carver Jr. High 24 24 7-9
Carver Sr. High 53 2  ( * 2 ) 55 10-12
Catoma 9 9 1-6
Chilton 8 8 1-6
Chisholm 25 25 1-6
Cloverdale 

Jr. High 36 36 1-9
Daisy Lawrence 28 28 1-6
Dalraida 19 19 1-6



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School Negro W hite Total Grades

Dannelly 23 23 1-6
Davis 22 22 1-6
Dunbar High 45 45 1-12
Fews 26 26 1-6
Flowers 25 25 1-6
Floyd Jr. High 44 44 1-9
Forest Avenue 11 11 1-6
George Washington 

High 46 46 1-12
Goode Street 8 8 1-6
Godwyn Jr. High 42 42 7-9
Hale 20 20 1-6
Harrison 23 23 1-6
Hayneville Road 

Jr. High 44 44 1-9
Head 17 17 1-6
Highland Avenue 13 13 1-6
Highland Gardens 23 23 1-6
Houston Hill 15 15 7-9
Johnson 24 24 1-6
Lanier 3 (*3) 102 105 10-12
Lee 2 (*4) 82 84 10-12
Loveless 44 44 1-9
McDavid 22 22 1-6
McIntyre Elem. 30 30 1-6
McIntyre Jr. High 7 7 7-9
MacMillan 13 13 1-6
Madison Park 10 10 1-6
Montgomery 

Co. High 19 19 1-12



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School Negro W hite Total Grades

Morningview 17 17 1-6
Paterson 25 25 1-6
Pendar Street 21 21 1-6
Pike Road 7 7 1-9
Pine Level 3 3 1-6
Pintlala 8 8 1-9

#1 One teacher English, Grades 10 ,11 and 12.
One teacher English, and Social Studies, Grades 10, 11 and 12. 
One teacher Commercial Subjects, Grades 10, 11 and 12.

* 2 One teacher Military Science, Grades 10, 11 and 12.
One teacher Social Studies, Grades 10, 11 and 12. *

*3 One teacher Military Science, Grades 10, 11 and 12.
One teacher Commercial Subjects, Grades 10, 11 and 12.
One teacher Heath & Physical Education, Grades 10 ,11 and 12.

*4 One teacher Commercial Subjects, Grades 10, 11 and 12.

2 IL L E G IB L E  L IN E S— P L E A S E  SU PPLY



471

Notice of Taking Discovery Deposition

(Filed January 30,1968)

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I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

To :

Fred D. Gray, Esq.
34 N. Perry Street 
Montgomery, Alabama

Vaughn Hill Robison, Esq.
Hill, Robison, Belser & Phelps 
P. 0. Box 901 
Montgomery, Alabama

P lease take  notice that the United States, amicus curiae 
herein, will take the deposition, for the purpose of dis­
covery, of Walter T. McKee, Superintendent of Education 
for Montgomery County, at 1:30 P.M. January 31, 1968 at 
the office of the Montgomery County Board of Education, 
305 South Lawrence Street, Montgomery, Alabama. The 
deposition will continue from day to day until completed.

—385—
You are invited to attend and cross-examine.

F r an k  D . A lle n , Jr .

Attorney
U. S. Dept, of Justice

Certificate of Service (omitted in printing)



472

Fur ther Answer to Motion

(Filed February 1,1968)

I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

Now comes the Montgomery County Board of Education, 
et al., the defendants in the above entitled cause and in fur­
ther response to the motion for further relief heretofore 
filed on August 17, 1967, by the Amicus Curiae, the United 
States of America, respectfully represent and show unto 
the Court as follows:

1. That since the filing on September 1, 1967, of the de­
fendants’ answer to the said motion for further relief the 
defendants have employed seven replacement teachers 
which have been assigned to faculties in schools of this 
system which are attended by students predominantly of 
the opposite race. There is presently a total of thirty-two 
faculty employees teaching in schools predominantly of the 
opposite race.

2. That substitute teachers of an undetermined number 
have been employed during the 1967-68 term to teach in 
schools where students of the opposite race are predomi­
nant.

3. That Negro student teachers are practice teaching in 
the 1967-68 term in schools which are attended predomi­
nantly by white students.

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473

4. These defendants aver that they have accomplished 
all of the desegregation of faculty that is possible for the 
1967-68 school term; that insofar as possible they will con­
tinue in their efforts to further desegregate the faculty;

—387—
that faculty reassignment or re-employment at this time 
would be impossible consistent with the best interest of 
the education of all of the children of this County regard­
less of race; that there are no promotions in any of the 
elementary or junior high schools in this system during the 
term; that there are no promotions from elementary to 
junior high school during a nine month term; that no new 
or additional grades are begun in elementary or junior 
high schools during a nine month term.

5. These defendants further state to the Court that they 
are diligently endeavoring to accomplish further faculty 
and staff desegregation in the Montgomery County School 
System for the 1968-69 school year; that in the 1968-69 
school year there will be further faculty and staff desegre­
gation in this County and that they are in good faith com­
pliance with this Court’s Order. 6

6. These defendants further aver that the placement of 
faculty and the employment of teachers is of the utmost 
importance to the school system and that in the accom­
plishment of this, the most diligent care must be exercised. 
These defendants aver that they have employed teachers 
and have made assignments in a bona fide effort to comply 
with this Court’s Order to discharge the affirmative duty 
placed on them by law to desegregate the faculty of this 
school system and to maintain a quality school system in



474

the best interest of all children in this County, regardless 
of race or color.

W herefore, these defendants pray that this Court will 
dismiss the motion for further relief or, in the alternative 
will deny the relief therein prayed for.

H tt.t., R obison, B elser and P helps 
Attorneys for Defendants

Certificate of Service (omitted in printing)
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475

—3 8 9 -
Amicus Curiae Notice of Motion and Motion for 

Further Relief

(Filed February 7, 1968)

I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labam a  
N orthern D ivision

To: The Parties and the Attorney of Record for Each 
Party

P lease take  notice that at a time and place to be set 
by the Court, the United States, Amicus Curiae, will move 
the Court for an Order enjoining the defendants from:

1. Failing to fill each vacancy hereafter occurring in the 
Montgomery County School System with a teacher or 
staff member whose race is in the minority at the school 
to which he is assigned unless the racial composition of 
the faculty and staff at that school no longer contributes 
toward identifying the school as being intended for a pre­
dominance of one race and unless no qualified teacher of 
the minority race is available.

2. Failing to establish a comprehensive program to pro­
vide for desegregation of student teachers and substitute 
teachers.

—390—
3. Failing to assign faculty and staff to the Jefferson 

Davis High School and to the two new elementary schools 
so that the faculties and staffs are substantially deseg­



476

regated and the schools will not be identifiable as intended 
for a preponderance of one race.

4. Failing to take affirmative action to correct the im­
pression they have created that the proposed Jefferson 
Davis High School is intended predominantly for white 
students and failing to schedule athletic contests in such 
a way as to disestablish the dual school system.

5. Failing to report to this Court every three months, 
the first report to be due April 1, 1968, the steps taken 
to comply with the Order of this Court herein sought.

As grounds for the motion, the United States submits:

1. On September 5, 1967, a hearing was had in this 
Court on the United States’ Motion for Further Relief. 
No ruling pursuant to that hearing has yet been made.

2. Since September 1, 1967, defendants have had 22 
vacancies occur in the faculties of the Montgomery County 
School System, and 31 new teachers have been hired.

3. Of the 31 new teachers hired since September 1, 1967 
school year, seven have been placed in schools where their 
race is in the minority.

— 391—
4. During the first grading period, defendants had ap­

proximately 150 student teachers working in the Montgom­
ery County System, none of whom were assigned to a 
position where their race was in the minority. 5

5. For the second grading period, defendants will have 
approximately the same number of student teachers as­
signed to the various schools in the system. Four Negro



477

student teachers have been assigned to predominantly white 
schools.

6. The defendants have not taken adequate steps to 
insure that substitute teachers are utilized in a manner 
to disestablish the dual school system.

7. A  principal, three coaches, and a band director, all 
of whom are white, have been assigned to Jefferson Davis 
High School, which is still under construction and will be 
in operation beginning in the fall of 1968.

8. The defendants and their agents have caused an ath­
letic schedule to be prepared for the proposed Jefferson 
Davis High School that includes contests only with pre­
dominantly white schools. Similarly, they have caused ath­
letic schedules to be prepared for other schools in the Mont­
gomery system that have predominantly white schools 
competing only with other predominantly white schools and 
that have predominantly Negro schools competing only 
with other predominantly Negro schools.

9. The defendants and their agents have taken other 
steps that have caused students and parents who will be

—392—
exercising choice forms to understand that the proposed 
Jefferson Davis High School is intended to be predom­
inantly white. These steps include contacts for financial 
support and the release of publicity about the proposed 
school.

10. Defendants anticipate that two new elementary 
schools will begin operations in the fall of 1968.



478

11. Unless enjoined by this Court, defendants will con­
tinue to assign new teachers, student teachers, and substi­
tute teachers on a racially segregated basis and will cause 
new schools to be opened in 1968 to perpetuate the dual 
school system.

This motion will be based on the pleadings, papers, and 
evidence on file in this case, the deposition of Walter T. 
McKee, and the testimony and exhibits to be adduced at 
the hearing of said motion.

Respectfully submitted,

Charles Quaintance  
F rank  A llen  

Attorneys
Department of Justice

Certificate of Service (omitted in printing)
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479

Plaintiffs’ Motion

(Filed February 9, 1968)

I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F oe th e  M iddle D isteict of A labam a  
N oethebn  D ivision

Now come the Plaintiffs in the above entitled cause and 
join with the United States in praying for the relief set 
forth in its Motion filed in this Court on February 7, 1968. 
The Plaintiffs further move the Court for the following 
additional relief:

1. That the Defendants be enjoined from failing and 
refusing to provide transportation for students who qualify 
therefor to the following proposed new schools :

Jefferson Davis High School,
Southlawn Elementary School, and 
Peter Crump Elementary School.

2. That the Defendants be enjoined from transporting 
students beyond schools in which their race is a minority 
to other more distant schools in which their race is a 
majority.

— 394—

Gbay, S eay, L angfobd & P byob



480

Stipulation

(Filed February 17, 1968)

The parties by their attorneys stipulate as follows:

1. Attachment A, which is attached hereto and made a 
part hereof, lists the names of persons available for sub­
stitute teaching assignments in Montgomery County in 
1967-68;

2. Those persons whose names on Attachment A are 
preceded by the letter W are white persons; and

3. Those persons whose names on Attachment A are 
preceded by the letter N are Negroes.

Executed this 17th day of February, 1968.

J oseph D. P h illips  
Attorney for the Defendants

F eed D. Gkay 
Attorney for the Plaintiffs

Chakles Quaintance  
Attorney for the United States

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481
— 396—

SUBSTITUTE TEACHER LIST 

1967-68

MONTGOMERY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
C i t y  and C ou nty

M ontgom ery, Alabama

NAME*

l^ADAIR, B essie P.

TELEPHONE ADDRESS

1131 Magnolia Curve

SCHOOLS, GRADES, COLLEGE 
OR SUBJECTS WORK

265-3352 Elem. & J r . High None

UlALLEN, Eva Greer 272-4471 3450 B iltm ore Elem entary 2 y r s .

N bAIDWIN, Emma A. 265-1850 1430 Rushing S t . Elementary 4 y r s .
WBARNES, Marie G. 262-8158 115 A rlin g ton  Rd. LANIER on ly 5 y r s .
WBAXTER, V irg in ia  L. 265-5621 Maxwell AFB, S oc. S t . ,  French,

Ex. 3494 311 Center Dr. & Elementary 4 y r s .
bOBEECHER. Peqqy Sudduth 272-5409 615 S ir  M ichael Dr. Elementary 4 y r s .
A/BELL. Fannie I d e l l  (Ram er-562-3606) Rt. 2 Box 5 9 , Ramer, A la . Elem. 4 y r s .
NBIRCH, A m etta  Dabney 265-9327 620 Cedar S t . Elementary 4 y r s .
NBIVINS, L i l l i e  Shuford 264-0113 1242 C leveland Ave. Elementary 4 y r s .
\N8CWD0IN, Natala B. 262-7622 904 F elder Upper Elem. & J r . High

S YrS‘
WBUSBY, Anna U. 264-3023 3553 C loverd a le  Rd. J r .,S r ..H ig h  & Elem. 3£  y r s .
MBYRDSONS, Rosa Lee 265-5971 2552 Airwood Dr. Elementary 4 y r s .

Wcamp, Frances P. 263-6153 2630 N. Fernway RETARDED CHILDREN’ S SCH. 4 y r s .
WCAMPBELL, Rosa L e tt 263-0713 718 S utter S t. Elementary 4 y r s .
WCARROLL, Sara N ell G. 272-3376 3607 W illow Lane Dr. Elementary i-Jr y r s .
N CARTER, B etty J . 262-8533 3041 M ilton Rd. Elem. 8. High (M usic) 4 y r s .
NCARTER, Ruby Lee 265-6829 1013 Pelham S t. Elementary 4 y r s .
^CARTER, S yb il Davis 272-0570 919 Frontenac Court FLOVERS on ly 1 y r .
tVCHACONAS, Georgianna K. 265-5621 

Ex. 6498
Q trs . 614-B 
Maxwell AFB Elem. & High 2 y r s .

WCHANCEY. Beulah H. (G rady-584-7548) R t. 2 Box 164 Ramer, Pine L evel, 4 y r s .

U)COE, Lucy E. 264-7617
Grady, A la .
3024 Crawford S t.

Goodwyn & Retarded C h ildren  s 
Elem. & J r .  High 1 y r .

COOLEY, Frankie Armstead 264-6249 758 S. H olt 3 t . Elementary 4 y r s .
wCOULTER, F lorence  K. 265-7783 958 R id g ecrest  S t. Elementary None
HCURLEY, E liza  A. J . 263-0408 940 A deline  S t . Elementary 4 y r s .

MDALTON, Johnnie Pat 262-4247 1434 C leveland Ave. Elementary 4 y r s .
N DANDY. D olores L. 265-6620 1326 T u tt le  Ave. Home E c. & S cien ce 4 y r s .
WDeKING, M arilyn S. 265-0167 3739 S . C ourt S t. ART, S o c . S t . ,  Spanish »

“JDELLINGER, Mary Melna 272-1471 871 Greg Dr.
E nglish  & Elem. 
E nglish

4 y r s . 
4 y r s .

WDeRAMUS, Evelyn K. 264-9730 521 Japoniea S t . Elementary 2 y r s .
WDERICKSON, M yrtis M. 262-0281 3235 LeBron Elementary 2 y r s .
^DeVANE, H aroll M. 288-9868 R t. 1 Box 1 36 -A S oc. S t . ,  T yp ing ,

^DIAMOND, Boots C a r ro ll 272-2131
L etohatchec, A la , 
165 Kent S t .

E ng., & Upper Elem, 
Elem. & Commerce

4 y r s . 
4 y r s .

N DUNCOMBE, Juanita D e lo r is 263-2753 628 Woodrow S t . Elementary 4 y r s .
W DUNLAP, Lennie F, 262-5313 154 A rlin g ton  Rd. Elementary 2 y r s .

WEICH, Lorah Smith 264-7986 1841 H i l l  Hedge Dr. F rench, S pan ., a r t ,

WELROD, Jimmie G. 265-6511 3179 Norman B ride  Rd.
E ng., s c i . ,  Elem. 

, E lem entary
4 y r s . 
2 y r s .

N EVANS, Janie Hood 264-4972 2661 W. Edgemont Ave, Elementary 4 y r s .

v/FIELDS, Mary 262-0925 3460 W ilm ington R d. E ng., s c i . ,  commerce,

N FLOWERS, Ethel Myers 

WFRASER, Nina Rust

288-4044

264-1804

R t. 1 Box 43 
Sprague, A la.
857 P ortland  Ave.

w .  - r t . ,  & 2 y r s .

Elem entary $ Yr $. 
LANIER & LEE (E n g lish ) 5 y r s .

*  In re p o rtin g  S u b stitu te  T eachers on you r pay r o l l ,  p le a se  use names exafiU tt l i s t e d  
above.



482
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S u b stitu te  Teachers

V^GOOCHER, A ll is o n  C. 
W goRDCN, Sandra H.
KGREEN, E liza beth  Pullom 
™ GREEN, E rnestin e  J .
NGREENE, W ille t ta  J .

WGRISWOLD, Deborah A. 
wGUEST, Fay Stephenson

WHALL, Ann J .

N HARRIS, Myla S .
U HARRISON, E liza beth  
bJ HARRISON, P a tr ic ia  Yvonn 

w  HAWK, Ginger S . (LaPi

V^HEUSTESS, J e s s ie  R.
W HICKS, Dorothy C. 
WHINCK, Jud ith  F.
N HINSON, F loren ce  I .
N  HOBDLY, L o lia r  P earl 
W  HOLLEY, L u c ile  F. 
V/WOTTPV H.
N HUDSON, J e ss ie  Mae 
w  HUGHES, L ouise C.

HUGHES, W ertie C.
HUNTER, Ganola N. 

v/HYDE, H a rriet H.

JACKSON, L e lia  Logan 
v^JAMES, Edith B lythe

^JAM ES, Nancy C.
^JENKINS, Corene R.

V /JENNIES, B ettye L.

v/JERNIGAN, Nelda H. 
VvOOHNSQN, Ib e r ia  P io rce

WJOHNSON, Sarah Jane

WJONES, Dorothy Leona 
N JONES, L i l l i e  T.ary 
^JORDAN, Eunice Syivene

y^LANEY, D orothy Y,
WLEACH, Marybeth Jones

Wi.EE, Bobbie E.
WLINDLEY, E leanor M.
W LINDSEY., Hilda L.

W  McATEER, B etty  S .

W  PcCLURKIN, Alma M.

W kcCORD, Sarah C.

v/ mcCORD, S u sio  3 . 
flMcDADE, E liza beth  A. 

WMcDOTELL, Evelyn G.

N KcGINNIS, Mary L.
W McWHORTER, Margaret P.

vY MARTIN, 
/MARTIN. •••v r ...
 ̂MEADOR w fieiTON, 

v/ nnt hu t

- 2 - 1967--68

288-9451 4262 Sunshine D rive S o c ia l  S tu dies 4 y rs .
265-9181 2800-A Brewton S t . S o c . S t. & E nglish 4 y rs .
263-0672 720 C larke S t. Elementary 4 y rs .
265-3644 636 Maggie S t . Elementary 4 y rs .
263-1932 3223 Suwanee Dr. Elementary 4 y rs .
265-6546 3219 E. Fernway Dr. CHILDREN'S CENTER 4 yrs .
263-2735 3576 C lov erd a le  Rd. Elementary 4 yrs.

272-4475 236 K ie fe r  Dr. EAST Montgomery o n ly : 4 y rs .
S .S . ,  Eng. & Commerce

263-2095 3115 M obile Dr. Elementary 4 y rs .
264-6745 2024 M ill  S t . Elementary 4 yrs.
262-0933 742 S . R ip ley  S t . Elementary 4 y rs .

i -537-4342) La P in e , A la . MONTG. COUNTY HIGH
& PINT LA LA on ly 2 yrs.

262-2062 1443 Adrian Lane LANIER on ly 5 yrs.
262-1539 36 W. Vandiver Elem. & J r . High 2 yrs.
272-3323 751 N. Georgetown Dr. Elem. 4 yrs.
264-1356 735 Erskine S t . Elementary 4 y rs .
272-7956 R t. 5 ‘ Bex 3 0 3 -Y Elem. & S o c . S t . 4 y*s.
262-0085 11 C ourtland Dr. Elementary 4 yrs.
272-5518 2725 B iltm ore Ave. Elem. 2 yrs.
265-5143 2436 Lower ’ /otumpka Rd,. Elementary 4 yrs.
288-2252 2645 Baldwin Brook Dr. Elem. & High

Eng. & S o c . S t . 2A yrs
262-4379 321 N. C a p ito l Parkway Elementary 2 yrs.
263-5687 3344 Roundtree Rd. Elementary 4 yrs.
265-3693 1827 Norman B ridge Rd. *P. E. & S oc. S t. 4 yrs.

264-0126 1023 E. Washington Elem. & J r . High 4 yrs.
264-6609 2707 Newport Rd. J r .  & S r . High 4 yrs.

S oc. S t. 8. Upper Elem
272-1231 3926 Johnstown Dr. LEE HIGH on ly 4 yrs.
269-1141 668 M ill S t . Elementary 4 yrs.
272-6163 3621 P rin cess  Ann EAST M ontg.: E ng., 2 yrs.

M usic, T yping, 8. Elem.
262-8974 1875 G i l le s p ie  Dr. DANNELLY on ly 2 yrs.
272-0304 R t. 5 Box 283-A HEAD, DALRAIDA, &

FLOWERS 4 yrs.
263-6584 36 H oodall C ir c le RETARDED CHILDREN'S

& CHILDREN’ S CENTER 1 yr .
269-2723 3085 H ighland Ave. Elem. u High 4 yrs.
264-7355 1810 M ichael S t. Elementary 4 yrs.
272-3329 Mt. M eigs, A la. Elem. & J r . High 4 yrs.

272-6789 2737 Sumter Elementary 2 i  yrs
262-0154 3742 Narrow Lane Road Upper E lem ., E ng.,

272-4354 4341 Donovan - r .
263-5353 1887 R obison H i l l  Rd.
265-4390 3685 Southmont Dr.

288-2453 P rin ce ton  Rd.

272-7949 Pike Road, A la .

2 62 - 2471 825 Park Ave.

263 - 3766 59 Garden 3 t .
262-3005 425 Yougono Curve
2 62 - 3614 1831 James Ave.

2 63 - 9059 326 Meehan S t.
272-6644 3769 ''-arcs  F erry Rd.

S .S . ,  Home E c ., French & P.E 
Elem. & J r . High 2  yrs.
Elem entary 2 4  yrs
BELLINGRATH, HARRISON,

& DAVIS 2-J- yrs
JOHNSON, BEAR, DANNELLY

& FLOYD 4 yrs.
E ng., French, S pan ,,
S o c . S t . & Elem. 4 yrs.

BELLINGRATH, LANIER &
FLOYD 4

EAST MONTGOMERY Elem. 1
S oc. S t .  & Home Ec. 4
EAST MONTGOMERY, LANIER,

& BALDWIN 
ENGLISH & MUSIC 
EAST MONTGOMERY J r .

yrs.
yr .
yrs.

y r .
yrs.

High & Elem. 3 yrs.
Hilda B. 265-8998 3447 Southvicv.' Ave. Elementary 4 yrs.
Carolyn Baker 288-0195 3210 ’.'ooc'lcv Rd. Elem. & Jr. High 5 yrs.
Virginia Scott 272-701c ? .z . <- ?!.,:• ala. U;:pcr El cm. 3 yrs.
Vi'.* 1 Jo.-.n 2o5--' ' VE 'ji:~ ,v-ru£ Elementary 4 yrs.
, EU»tx?toi H.zicrd 2M-547D 1137 CWt St Elementary 4 y«
eJm Ci 264-0116 2PI6 Spann M*ce 

3534 Cambric fti n 2 , 7 *
264-7214 JOHNS OH, t>AH«EUY BEAR

FLGfD 8 FOREST AVt. 4 y^



483

Substitu te  Teachers - 3 -

— 39&—
1967-68

v f  MIDDLETON, Ethel D. 
vV MILLIS, Louise A lston  
yYMOODY, Francos Galloway 
V^MOORE, E lla  Mae

H MOORE, Wilma A.

V'/NESSMITH, Mary R.

W o ’ DONNELL, Bonnie H.

W PALMER, Hazel H,

W PARKER, Mary A.
VnY PARKS, 3arbara H,

PEARSON, Helen Evans 
hi PERSON, Susie M. 
WPETRANKA, Mary L. 
fY PIERCE, Mary L. B. 
fJ PORTER, Annie Lee 
N PORT IS , C leo D.

W RAWLS, Ruby Tompkins (Rame: 
vY raY, G eraldine H,
•Y RELF, Cleona Gray 

W RICE, Sue

w  RICHARDSON, E liza beth  S.
W RICKER, Iva N elle  
W ROBERTSON, Sara Booker 
N ROSS, L i l l i e  B e lle  
yVRUSHING, E lise  Terry

M SAN’S , Eva
WSAMUELS, V aleria  Ward 
WSCHAUM, Mary T. 
vY SCOTT, B e tt ie  H ill 
W SMITH, Eugenia

NSMITH, Jean E. 
vYSMITH, Judith A.
N SMITH, Mabel W illiam s 
YYSMITH, S y lv ia  L. (Ramer

WTANKERSLEY, C o rr ie  H il l

WTEMPSKE, Mary B ea tr ice

hi THOMAS, Addio L u c i l l e
M i'HOWw, Gurlrudu J.

w  VAUGHAN, O liv ia  B.

w  WAGGONER, N ell H.
W WARNER, Janet 
H WASHINGTON, G lover Ivy 
H WASHINGTON, N ettie  D.
N WEBB, Annie G. 
w  WEISHEIT, C arolyn A della  
w  WILFERTH, l/.yldred E. 
vY WILLIAMS, G lo r ia  Bingham

w  WILLIAMS, W ille t t o  H.

WILLIAMSON, Margaret R.
** WILSON, Addie Mario 
I'J WILSON, L i l l ia n  O l iv ia  
W WINDSOR, Mary E llon

^JOHNSON. Helen Maxine 
H ROBERTSON, gre-vAo. Jovce

265-3671 2722 O xford  D rive BEAR & DANNELLY 5 y r s .
272-2642 1215 Noremac Road E lem ., J r .  8. S r . High 4 y r s .
264-5523 2258 Narrow Lane Rd. J r . High A rt & Elem. 3 y r s .
272-1835 3529 D alra ida  C ourt EAST MONTGOMERY: 

Elem. & High l £  y r s .
265-5129 3311 M obile Dr. Elementary 4 y r s .

265-7823 3011 Boxwood Dr. Eng., S .S . ,  & French 4  y r s .

264-2990 1823 Palm etto S t. Elementary 2 y r s .

262-7918 2435 LeRuth Ave. DANNELLY, JOHNSON, 2 y r s .  
FOREST AVE., MORNINSVIEW

272-4635 46 Marlborough Elem. o r  J r . High 2 y r s .
263-2807 2192 Rosemont Dr. J r .  High E nglish 4 y r s .
263-2078 3048 T y ler  Road Elementary 4 y r s .
262-8729 3359 E. Tuskegee C ir c le Elem. & S o c . S t. 4 y r s .
263-1215 617 Thorn P la ce Elem. & High 4 y r s .
264-0063 3511 M obile Dr. S o c . S t . & Eng. 4 y r s .
263-3609 2745 Vandy Court Elementary 4 y r s .
263-9913 1328 T u tt le  S t. S c ie n ce  & Math 4 y r s .

r -584-7767) Rt. 1 , Ramer, A la . RAMER & PINE LEVEL None
265-1737 423 Fourth S t . ,  B oylston  CHISHOLM & HIGHLAND GARDENS
263-3561 1037 Oak S tr e e t Elementary 4 y r s .
262-0502 908 C lov erd a le  Road J r . High L a tin  & 

E nglish- & Elem. 2 y r s .
262-3788 3316 Montezuma Rd. Elementary y r s .
288-1528 2034 B everly  Dr. Upper Elem. 5 y r s .
272-7686 Pike Road, Alabama Elementary 1£  y r s .
263-6056 1225 Hutchinson S t . Elem entary 4 y r s .
272-5186 3739 H oneysuckle Court S oc . S t . ,  M usic, Prim ary 2 “

264-1549 1229 H utchinson S t . Elementary 4 y r s .
264-0515 3365 W ilmington Rd. E le . & High 2 y r s .
263-3877 926 C lov erd a le  Rd. SOUTH MONTGOMERY 2£ y r s .
265-8485 641 E. F airv iew  Ave. Prim ary 4 y r s .
265-5930 3424 Sorflmcrvllle Dr. E l ? - . , Home B e .,  

P .E ., & S oc . S t . 2 y r s .
264-6224 814 S . Union S t . Elem. & S oc . S t . 4 y r s .
272-6256 615 Joryne D rive Elem entary 2 y r s .
264-9369 3047 M ilton  Rd. Elem entary 4 y r s .
-  562-3515) 2 , Ramer, A la . MONTG. COUNTY HIGH None

s 263-1970 1241 S. H ull S t . SOUTH MONTGOMERY Elem. 3 y r s .

262-4692 2321 W. C lov erd a le  Park A lg eb ra , L a tin , 
S o c . S t .  & Elem. 4 y r s .

272-1976 3739 Mario Cook Dr. Eiem. & J r . High 
s o c ia l  s tu d ie s 4 y r s .

264-9890 926 C levelan d  Ave. S oc . S t .  a  E nglish 4 y r s .
2 6 5 -141C 2010 C ouncil St.. F.lom, A Homo He. 4 y r o .

265-1122 615 Hubbard S t . CLOVERDALE on ly 2 y r s .

264-5673 4003 Narrow Lane Road Primary 4 y r s .
264-2663 R t. 2 Box 417 Elementary 2 y r s .
263-9105 661 Emerson S t . Elem entary $ y r s .
264-0302 611 W. D ix ie  Dr. Elem entary 4 y r s .
265-0602 566 N. Union C ir c le Elem entary 4 y r s .
265-1117 3515 S. Court S t . BELLIN3RATH a  HARRISON 2 y r s .
272-5243 3568 P rin ce  George Dr. Elementary 2 y r s .
288-4644 or PINTLALA a  MONTGOMERY
288-4655 Sprague, Alabama COUNTY HIGH none
265-1030 460 H eustess S t . P .E .,  H i s t . ,  E ng., 

a  Elementary none
262-4055 431 Martha S t. Elem entary 1 y r .
262-8216 1500 S. H a ll S t. Elem entary 4 y r s .
269-4201 1232 Payne S t. E lem entary 4 y r s .
272-2460 3519 D alraida C ourt EAST MONTG. -  Elem. 1 y r .

272-3601 2940 B iltirore Eiania-o . 3 y r s .
264-1917 1409-B  W\ ic e *  S t Ilemervtary q  yrs



484
• w A .toW iiH lT i* w  w . ' . U / u J

C ity  and County 
' Montgomery, Alabama

— 399—

S u p e r in t e n d e n t 's  O f f i c e Septem ber 1 4 , 1967

SUPPLEMENTARY SUBSTITUTE LIST

To A ll  P r in c ip a ls :

P lease  add the persons l i s t e d  below  to  your S u b stitu te  Teacher L i s t ,  and l e t  me remind 
you th a t  you are t o  c a l l  ONLY th ose  p eop le  whose names are sent t o  you frcro t h is  o f f i c e  I 
DO NOT c a l l  anyone who i s  not on the o f f i c i a l  l i s t s  sent t o  you or  about whom you have not 
been co n ta cte d  by t h i s  o f f i c e .  S u b s t itu te s  are  re q u ire d  t o  have on f i l e  in  our o f f i c e  
h ea lth  c e r t i f i c a t e s ,  t e a c h e r ’ s c e r t i f i c a t e s ,  ch esr X -ra y s , and s o c ia l  s e c u r ity  names and 
numbers. A ll  o f  th ese  m atters must be c le a re d  in  t h is  o f f i c e  b e fo re  t h e ir  names can be 
sen t ou t t o  you ; o th e rw ise , co m p lica t io n s  a r is e  in  our o f f i c e  as w e ll as the bookkeeping 
department a t  pay r o l l  tim e.

P lea se  coop era te  w ith us in  t h is  m atter, and we w i l l  t r y  t o  send ou t supplem entary 
s u b s t itu te  l i s t s  m onthly. I f  you know o f  anyone who would l ik e  t o  be p la ce d  on the  
l i s t ,  send them t o  see me and we w i l l  c le a r  th ese  item s and g e t  the  names ou t t o  you 
as soon as p o s s ib le .

S in ce re ly  you rs ,

.v. b .  G a rrett
WSG/rhd A ss o c ia te  S uperintendent

SCHOOLS, GRADES, COLLEGE
.NAME* TELEPHONE ADDRESS OR SUBJECTS WORK

WALLEN, Donna Mai 262-7477 44 Ogden Road L ibrary', Spanish , Eng. 5 yrs.
v /ARCHER, H ellen  Cannon 264-3812 1912 Johnson S t . LEE HIGH on ly 3 yrs.
vJBALKEMA, Mary H. 272-3282 330 H il ls id e  Rd. J r .  & S r. H igh: S c i . ,

Math, & S o c . S t . 4 yrs.

W  DENNIS, Lou E llen 263-3961 3469 Warrenton Rd. SOUTH MONTG. ( Prim ary) 3 yrs.
DeVANE, Jo Anne^ 288-9S68 R t. 1 Letohatchee S o . Montg. & County 1 y r .

(H lem ., commerce & Home E c .)
W duNMAN, Francos Stephenson 265-6107 3557 G aylord P I. Elementary 2 yrs.

W GARNER, Jane Helms 265-4122 3412 Richmond Rd. Eng. & S oc . S t . 4 yrs.
W 'G ’JY, Sharon S. 272-5299 801 Joryne Dr. E ng., French, Home Ec,« j

H is t . & A rt 4 yrs.
V7 HUDDLESTON, Grace M. 264-2556 2202 A lle n d a le  Rd. E ng., H is t . ,  o r  Elem. 4 yrs.

W  JOHNSON, Alva Simpson 265-2793 2728 F isk  Rd. SO. MONTG.: Elem. o r  1d i. 2 yrs,

LONG, J o s e f in e  Maria 238-5421 1531 Flamingo Lane Elem entary 3 yrs.

v/'f/acMILLAN, Anno Jones 283-4318 2643 O xford Dr. SO. MONTG.s Elem.& Jr . 4 yrs.
W McCRACKEN, Dorothy s . 272-4098 1203 Karc-n Rd. E. M ontg.: E ng., H ist .

& Elem. 4 yrs.
vVMcUMB, Martha L. 262-0108 3199 E. Fernway Dr. Elem entary 2 i  yrs.

N MADISON, K atie  J . 264-3511 324 S p r in g h il l  Ave. Elementary 4 yrs.
N MANSELL, H arnethia Naomia 262-6770 3204 McElvy Elementary 4 yrs.

W  MORRISON, E llon  Young 265-9685 547 3 . P orry S t. Elem. & J r . High 4 yrs.
W  'MOSS, Judith  Ann 264-9821 403 S . Pc-rry S t. Upper Elem entary 4 yrs.

W  PELHAM, K i t t io  K. 264-3589 1602 S . H ull S t . J r .  & S r . Hi & Elem. 4 yrs.

W  SPENCER, MaryAnn E leanor 262-7010 or E ng., F rench, &
272-7474 1826 Vaugnn Lane Elem entary 3 yrs.

W  WHITFIELD, V ir g in ia  Rath 262-2366 2137 Carr.obeli Rd. E ng., S peech , S .S . 4 yrs.
W  WKORTON, Jean E l l i o t t 584-7713 Pir.o L e v e l, A la . RAWER & PINE LEVEL 1 yr.
V /  WILLIAMSON, Juno Dale 272-4706 1200 C o tto n c e le  Rd. J r . H i: Speech & El erri. 2 yrs.
*J V' T.'.CN, Mamie Jo E llin g tor . 285-4382 R t. 1 :.'.iilb rook -  yr-*

’  S1LS-: ;ry  Jo 2 72 -59c l 3331 A r n c r f iu lc  Rd. EAST MONTG. nor*
CH/WSt S o c ia l  S o o -a it y  ns sc- c f  W arilyr> S  W i n g  o r  1 s t L ist t o . M flR u jN S C M rrr  p&t i *

• SOCIAL s e C O p lT / n/AVIES t o  b e  Used o r pfN) r o ll



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S u p e r in te n d e n t 's  O f f i c e

MONTGOMERY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
C i t y  and C ou nty

M ontgom ery, Alabama

SUPPLEMENTARY SUBSTITUTE LIST

November 1 , 1967

T o .A ll P r in c ip a ls :

P lease  add the persons whose names are  l i s t e d  below  to  your S u b stitu te  Teacher L is t .  
These are  t h e ir  S o c ia l  s e c u r it y  Names and are  t o  be used on your pay r o l l  as l i s t e d :

WSG/rhd

NAME

aJbaIDWIN, Ann Sessoms 
N BELLAMY, L e t ic ia  S.

vVchRISTENBERRY, Mary E. 
* / CONNELL, Annie Lee 
yfGORDON, Beppy L.

vVJENKINS, Suzy

V '/kILLIAN, Frank, J r .

WLOVAN, Ruth E.
V* LYNCH, Margaret Mathes

*  RAGSDALE, C arol Land 
RALEY, Mary Dupree 

^ROBINSON, Barbara Drum

vS  SERWIN, Harlynn M. 
W  STUART, Lucy

S in ce re ly  you rs , 

W. S . G a rre tt

iu .

A ss o c ia te  S uperintendent

TELEPHONE ADDRESS SCHOOLS, GRADES, 
OR SUBJECTS

COLLEGE
V/ORK

272-5462
265-4975

3531 Milan D rive 
1209 Payne S tr e e t

French or  English 
Home E c ., S c i . ,  & Elem.

4 yrs  
4 "

288-0736
262-8203
288-0747

731 Alamo D rive 
714 T errace  Ave. 
R t. 4 Eox 85

S oc . S tu d ies  & Upper Elem. 
E nglish  & Spanish 

Math & Law

4 " 
4 " 
4 "

288-2767 1204 E. Audubon Rd. LEE ONLY 4 "

272-5635 3043 A sh ley Ave. Mathematics B .S . S. ii .‘.
1037 Grenada Dr. E ng., Spanish , & Elementary

263-6514
272-2455

264-8588
288-4828
272-3352

288-2851
262-2031

3346 Montezuma Rd. Math, S oc . S tu d ie s , & Elem. 4 y r s .
3707 Honeysuckle Court Home E c .,  S c i . ,  S .S . ,

E ng., & Elem. 4 y r s .

22 E. F airview  Ave. M usic, Commerce, Elem. BME & MA
Rt. 1 Box 341-D High S ch oo l & Elem. 4 y r s .
117 E. Salem Dr. S c i . ,  H is to ry  & Elem. 4 "

1260 S. H olt S t . Elementary 4 "
1727 B an croft S c i . ,  S oc. S t. 8. Elem. 4 "
155 N. Haardt Dr. Elementary 4 "

2142 S te l la  S t . Elementary 5 ”
542 C layton  S t . CHILTON on ly —

3507 P rin ce ton  Rd. Eng. & S oc. S t . 4 "

M TALLEY, M issie  D o ll . 263-5314
^TUCKER, S h ir le y  G a ith er 264-9660
W  VARTANIAN, Margaret "ih ite 264-6971

Dorothy Y. Lanev has requ ested  th a t  she r e c e iv e  c a l l s  from ju n io r  h igh  s ch o o ls  a s  w e ll as 
elem entary s c h o o ls .

Lpu E llen  Dennis has req u ested  th a t she r e c e iv e  c a l l s  from a l l  elem entary s ch o o ls  in s te a d  
o f  be in g  l im ite d  t o  South Montgomery as p re v io u s ly  l i s t e d .

NEW ADDRESS & PHONE NO. f o r  Edna C. M elton , who i s  a lre a d y  on the S u b s t itu te  L is t .
300 C arol V il la  
Phone: 272-0989

PLEASE REMOVE th e  fo llo w in g  names from your S u b stitu te  Teacher L is t s :

ELIZABETH PULLOK GREEN 
DE3GR.AH GRISWOLD 
.-.ELEN vlJCIhE JOHNSON 
ELIZABETH .2.1 ~.Z '.7 .jOHS



486

MONTGOMERY P03LIC SCHGCLS 
C ity  and County 

Montgomery, Alabama

S u p erin ten d en t 's  O f f i c e

— 401—

December 1, 1967

SUPPLEMENTARY SUBSTITUTE LIST

To A ll  P r in c ip a ls :

P lease  add the fo llo w in g  persons t o  your S u b stitu te  Teacher L is t .  These are  t h e ir  
S o c ia l  S e cu r ity  Names and are  t o  be used on your pay r o l l  as l i s t e d :

S in ce re ly  y ou rs ,

'Xlj. ̂ . /\J asiAiJEf
Vi. S. G arrett

i'ISG/rhd A sso c ia te Superintendent

96/DANIELS, Jean L. 264-8880 1424 Deer S tr e e t Elementary 4 yrs.

v /D R Y , C h a rlo tte  L ola  264-5839 434 S. Panama S t. Home E c .,  S co , & Elem. 4 yrs.

V/HUXFORD, Linda Teague 288-2709 1125 Buckingham Dr. E ng., Home E c .,  & Elem. 4 yrs,

W W e , B etty  265-2503 700 T errace  Ave. Elem. 8. High 4 yrs,

N PRINCE, Rosa Mae 265-9185 3354 L ove less  Curve Elementary 4 yrs,

vV SEXTON, Anna L ouise 265-6818 1931 S p e ig le  S t. Elementary 1 y r .

M SHARPE; A lg ia  C. 264-3681 2637 VV. Edgemont Elementary 4 yrs,

W TOMLINSON, V irg in ia  M. 272-6643 3797 Royal C rest Dr. Elem. & H igh: Eng. & S .S . 4 yrs,

hi WILLIAMS, E liza  Larkin 272-0974 4105 B ie n v il le  Rd. Elementary 4 yrs,

REMOVE from L is t :

Nancy C. James 
IVilda 3 . M alloy 
Harnethia Naomia M ansell 
C arolyn  Eaker M artin



487
— 402—

S up erin ten d en t 's  O f f ic e  January J , 1967

MONTGOMERY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
C it y  and C ou nty

M ontgom ery, Alabama

SUPPLEMENTARY SUBSTITUTE LIST

To a l l  P r in c ip a ls :

P lease add the fo llo w in g  persons t o  your S u b stitu te  Teacher L i s t .  These are t h e ir  
S o c ia l S e cu r ity  Names and are  t o  be used on your pay r o l l  as l i s t e d :

WSG/rhd

S in ce re ly  you rs ,

u x W *
W. S. G a rre tt  
A ss o c ia te  Superintendent

WBEAM, Carolyn B. 265-3165 3980 D a llas  Dr. S o c . S tu d ie s  & Elem. 3 y r s .
W BOZEMAN, Sara C harles 265-4643 1138 R osedale EAST Montgomery -  Elem. 4 y r s .
N DAVIS, Arthur M. 263-9346 405 McKinne S t . E ng., French, & S .S . 4 y r s .
V\J DePREIST, Imogene 272-0683 1949 Cottingham D r. Elementary 4 y rs .VV FOSTER, Marcia W. 264-1481 2813 Spann P lace E ng., Commerce, & Elem.

w / GOODWYN, Mary H. 263-7475 2537 McGehee Rd. BEAR SCHOOL ONLY

W  JOHNSON, Annie Grace 272-3847 139 H ollid a y  Drive Elementary —

KURTZMAN, E laine 272-7490 Gunter A ir  F orce Base
Ex. 4146 Q trs . 2 04 -C Math & S oc. S tu d ies 5 y rs ,

W  MITCHELL, Sandra F. 272-6049 47 H ollid a y  Dr. Elem. & High School 2 yrs.

MORRIS, Barbara G. 272-2601 3538 Wareingwood Home E c ., E ng., H is t . ,
Shorthand, Typing 4 y rs

W  RIDOLPHI, E liza b eth  H. 263-9021 2256 Rosemont Dr. Elem. (Prim ary) $  y*v

V  SEWELL, V irg in ia  F. 288-0032 1013 Lynwood Dr. Elem. (Prim ary) 4 yrs
|4 WILLIAMS, L loyd G . ,  J r. 263-9917 3034 C a ffe y  D r ., A pt. K S oc. S t . & E nglish 4 yrs,

REMOVE from l i s t :
Linda Teague Huxford 
P a tr ic ia  S . Norman



488
— 403—

MONTGOMERY PUBLIC SCHOOLS
City and County

M ontgom ery, Alabama

S u p e r in te n d e n t ’ s O f f i c e  F e b ru a ry  1 ,  1968

SUPPLEMENTARY SUBSTITUTE LIST

To a l l  P r in c ip a ls :

P lease  add the fo llo w in g  persons t o  your S u b st itu te  Teacher L is t .  These are t h e ir  
S o c ia l  S e cu r ity  Names and are  to  be used on your pay r o l l  as l i s t e d :

IVSG/rhd

S in c e r e ly  you rs ,

A sso c ia te  Superintendent

W ’ADAMS, L ou ise  265-3031 443 S . Highland Court
WADAMS, P a tr ic ia  S. 272-2500 7S5 Duval Dr.
hi ASHLEY, Jo Ann Young 263-9693 705 N. Union C ir c le

BALLARD, Ida T . 265-8127 3238 Hor.tezu.~a Rd.
W  BERRY, Linda 262-0668 1500 Gilm er Ave.

CHAPPELL, C harles  W ilson 262-2978 1932 James Ave.
W  CROSS, W il l ie  Hack (M rs .) 272-4593 3542 Wareingwood

W  DeBRAY, Jananne Booth 265-4923 3547 Norman B ridge Rd.

W  DUFFtY, 3arbara C. 288-46S4 R t. 1 Box 275-3

Elementary 
DAVIS SCHOOL 
Elementary

Elem & P.E. 
Elem.

S oc. S t . ,  S c i . ,  Eng. 
Elementary

E ng., Speech, S .S . ,  
Upper Elem. 

Elementary

4 yrs. 
4 yrs. 
4 yrs

4 yrs. 
4 yrs.

i  yr.
None

4 yrs. 
4 yrs.

W  EVANS, V a leria  M. 262-8724 R t. 4 Box 8 9 -D

^  FREEMAN, Evergreen ta lk e r  263-5132 1009 Lake S t .
N FULLER, Mary C. 272-7194 R t. 3 Box 426

EAST MONTG., Elem. 8. J r . Hi None

Home Ec. 8. S0c .  S t . 4 yrs.
Home Ec. & S o c . S t . 4 yrs.

& Elem.
GRAY, Yvonne S. 288-6172 R t. 1 Box 266 Elem entary None

yV GREENLEE, Ruth T . 265-0867 856 E. Pattoh Ave. Elem. o r  High None

W JOHNSON, Nancy M. 263-7322 2 2 -3  Southmont Court Elementary 4 yrs.

W KELLY, Rosa R. 264-5175 121-A E. P atton  Ave. SOUTH MONTG.: Primary

W  MORRIS, Jane Owen 265-9102 1018 Augusta S t . E ng., Home E c .,  8. Upper Elem. 4

W NORTON, Rebecca Black 262-1820 2543 C o lle g e  S t . Elem entary 2 yrs.

W REYNOLDS, J esse  P reston  269-4684 3700 M obile Rd. S c i . ,  speech , Eng. 
& S oc. S t . 4 yrs.

M HUSTON, Maxine 264-0525 2620 Rutland S t . C hem istry, b io lo g y ,  
8. Math 4 yrs.

W SCHOFIELD, C harles  Malcolm 263-•1478 415 Fourth S t. S oc. S t . 8. econom ics 4 yrs.
V/ STANFORD, Brenda L. 263-1883 1704 S . P erry  S t. Elem entary 4 yrs.

vg VICKERY, Mary N. H. 263-2905 1704 S . Court S t . Eng. 8. S o c . S t. 4 yrs.

w ft'ATERS, M yrtle E lis e 269-4296 3207 E. Fernway Dr. E lem ., S c i . ,  E ng., J r . Hi none
t'f WINSTON, Frankie Madison 272-4525 R t. 3 Box 4C4 Elem entary 4 yrs.

CHANGE IN ADDRESS 8. TELEPHONE NO.:

CHRISTENSERRY, Mary E. 3151 W oodfern Dr. New T elephone: 2fr5-5S0e

JIASE REMOVE THE FOLLOWING PERSONS FROM YOUR SUBSTITUTE LIST:

SHARON S . GUY
ANNE JCNcS MacMILLAN
JUDITH ANN KCSS
MAMIE JO ELLINGTON WILSON



489

Memorandum Opinion

(Filed February 24, 1968)

I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

This cause is now submitted upon the motions of the 
United States filed August 17, 1967 and February 7, 1968, 
in both of which the United States requested this Court 
to require defendants to take further steps designed to 
disestablish the dual school system in Montgomery County, 
Alabama. Each of these motions seeks further faculty de­
segregation and the motion of February 7, 1968, asks this 
Court to require defendants to cease operation of their 
athletic program on a racially segregated basis and to take 
other steps designed to insure that certain new schools 
that have been and are being constructed as a part of the 
Montgomery County School System are operated on a de­
segregated basis. The plaintiffs join the United States 
in each of said motions.

This Court conducted a hearing on the Government’s 
motion of August 17. 1967, in September, 1967. No formal 
findings or conclusions were made at that time by reason 
of the fact that the 1967-68 school year had already com­
menced, and the matter was therefore held in abeyance. 
On February 9, 1968, a hearing was conducted on the Gov­
ernment’s second motion and the motion of the plaintiffs 
filed the same date wherein the plaintiffs seek more specific 
relief concerning transportation to the new schools.

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490

Upon consideration of the evidence and the several ex­
hibits thereto, this Court now makes the appropriate find­
ings of fact and conclusions of law, embodying the same in 
this memorandum opinion. The original decree requiring 
desegregation of the public schools in Montgomery County, 
Alabama, was entered by this Court on July 31,1964. After 
making appropriate findings and conclusions to the effect

—405—
that the Montgomery County Board of Education was oper­
ating a segregated school system based upon race, this 
Court entered an injunction that enjoined the defendants 
from failing to provide public school education for Negroes, 
and other members of their class, in a school or schools 
that were not operated on a racially segregated basis, and 
from failing to take immediate steps, to be effective for 
the school term commencing September, 1964, to desegre­
gate the 1st, 10th, 11th and 12th grades in the public 
schools of Montgomery County, Alabama. In this decree, 
this Court approved a freedom-of-choice plan that had been 
proposed by the defendants as a means for discharging the 
affirmative duty placed upon them. Brown v. Board of 
Education of Topeka, 347 U. S. 483 (1954), and Brown 
v. Board of Education of Topeka, 349 U. S. 294 (1955). On 
March 22, 1966, this Court by formal order required the 
Montgomery County Board of Education to file a more 
formal and comprehensive plan for desegregation of the 
public school system in Montgomery County. This plan 
provided for complete desegregation of the schools for 
each grade in each school commencing with the September, 
1967 school term; the plan also provided with regard to 
services, facilities, activities and programs:

A student shall have full access to all services, facili­
ties, activities, and programs (including transporta-



491

tion, athletics, and other extracurricular activities) 
that may be conducted or sponsored by, or affiliated 
with the schools of the system. A  student attending 
school for the first time on a desegregated basis may 
not be subject to any disqualification or waiting pe­
riod for participation in activities and programs, in­
cluding athletics, which might otherwise apply because 
he is a transfer student.

Further, the plan provided with regard to faculty and 
staff:

Race or color will henceforth not be a factor in the 
hiring, assignment, reassignment, promotion, demo­
tion, or dismissal of teachers and other professional 
staff, with the exception that assignments shall be 
made in order to eliminate the effects of past dis­
crimination. Teachers, principals, and staff members 
will be assigned to schools so that the faculty and staff 
is not composed of members of one race.

In the recruitment and employment of teachers and 
other professional personnel, all applicants or other 
prospective employees will be informed that Mont­
gomery County operates a racially integrated school 
system and that members of its staff are subject to 
assignment in the best interest of the system and with­
out regard to the race or color of the particular em­
ployee.

The Superintendent of Schools and his staff will 
take affirmative steps to solicit and encourage teachers 
presently employed to accept transfers to schools in 
which the majority of the faculty members are of a 
race different from that of the teacher to be trans­
ferred.



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Teachers and other professional staff will not be 
dismissed, demoted, or passed over for retention, pro­
motion, or rehiring on the ground of race or color. In 
any instance, where one or more teachers or other 
professional staff members are to be displaced as a 
result of desegregation or school closings, they shall 
be transferred to any position in the system where 
there is a vacancy for which they are qualified.

At the time this Court entered its order in July, 1964, 
there were in attendance approximately 15,000 Negro 
children and approximately 25,000 white children in the 
Montgomery County School System. The system was com­
pletely segregated by reason of race. No faculty desegre­
gation was ordered until the commencement of the 1967 
school year.1 The evidence now presented reflects that dur­
ing the current school year the student population con­
tinues to be about the same as in 1964 and there are now 
approximately 550 Negroes attending, through the free- 
dom-of-choice procedure, traditionally white schools. No 
white children are attending traditionally Negro schools.

1 The order made and entered in this case on March 22, 1966, 
required the Montgomery County Board of Education to com­
mence the process of desegregating the faculty and professional 
staffs commencing with the school year 1966-67. However, on 
August 16, 1966, in the Mobile, Alabama school case of Birdie 
Mae Davis, et al. v. Board of School Commissioners of Mobile 
County, et al., 364 P. 2d 896, the United States Court of Appeals 
for the Fifth Circuit allowed the Mobile, Alabama County Board 
of Education until the school year 1967-68 to end its policy of hir­
ing and assigning teachers and stall according to race. On August 
18, 1966, this Court entered an order reciting, “ Uniformity, as 
well as fairness, requires this Court upon its own motion . . .  to 
amend its order of March 22, 1966, to the extent that the Mont­
gomery County School Board of Education he allowed until the 
school year of 1967-68 to end this present policy of hiring and 
assigning teachers and other school personnel according to race.”



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As of February 9, 1968, 32 classroom teachers in this sys­
tem were teaching pupils in schools that are predominantly 
of the opposite race. Defendants employ approximately 
550 Negro teachers and approximately 815 white teachers 
in the system. Practically all the faculty desegregation in 
the system has occurred in the high schools. While there 
is some faculty desegregation in the elementary schools 
in the system, it is extremely small. There has been very 
little, if any, faculty desegregation in the schools located 
outside the City of Montgomery.

Since the order of this Court of June 1, 1967, defen­
dants have assigned or transferred approximately 75 new 
teachers to faculties where their race was in the majority. 
Since the opening of school in September, 1967, defen­
dants have hired approximately 32 new teachers—26 white 
and 6 Negro. Of the 26 new white teachers, only six or 
seven have been placed in predominantly Negro schools. 
All six Negroes were assigned to predominantly Negro 
schools. The evidence further reflects that the defendants 
have failed to take any appropriate steps to insure that

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substitute teachers are placed on a nonracial basis. No 
Negro has yet been a substitute teacher in a traditionally 
white school in Montgomery County. Negro substitutes 
were used over 1,500 times in Negro schools during the 
first semester of the 1967-68 school year. During the same 
period, white substitute teachers were employed over 2,000 
times—only 33 of them in traditionally Negro schools. 
There are approximately 162 white substitute teachers and 
63 Negro substitute teachers available for use in the Mont­
gomery County School System. Twenty-eight of the white 
substitute teachers whose names are on this list have,



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with defendants’ permission, limited themselves to working 
only in predominantly white schools.

Defendants have adopted no adequate program for the 
assignment of student teachers on a desegregated basis. 
None of the approximately 150 student teachers used in 
the Montgomery County School System in the fall of 1967 
were assigned to schools predominantly of the opposite 
race. Four Negro student teachers have very recently 
been assigned to predominantly white schools. There has 
been no faculty desegregation in the night schools operated 
by the Montgomery County School System.

The evidence does not reflect any real administrative 
problems involved in immediately desegregating the sub­
stitute teachers, the student teachers, the night school 
faculties, and in the evolvement of a really legally adequate 
program for the substantial desegregation of the faculties 
of all schools in the system commencing with the school 
year of 1968-69.

The evidence in this case reflects that the athletic pro­
grams are an integral part of the operation of the public 
schools in the Montgomery County School System. The 
Alabama High School Athletic Association is an associa­
tion made up of approximately 357 Alabama high schools 
traditionally maintained for white students and the Ala­
bama Interscholastic Athletic Association is an association 
made up only of Alabama high schools traditionally main­
tained for Negro students. Each of these athletic associa­
tions has adopted rules for the scheduling of athletic con­
tests by its members which have the effect of penalizing 
member schools if they play athletic contests with schools 
predominantly of the opposite race. The manner in which 
these associations accomplish this is through the promulga­
tion of a rule to the effect that if any member school plays



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a nonmember school, it is subject to suspension or penalty. 
Thus the Montgomery County Board of Education, acting 
through its various school principals and coaching staffs, 
has allowed its traditionally white schools and its tradi-

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tionally Negro schools to become members of the white 
and Negro associations, respectively, thereby placing them 
under the restrictive rules of these associations. Further­
more, the evidence reflects that the defendants through 
their agents—the principals and coaching staffs—have 
adopted a policy of scheduling interscholastic athletic con­
tests for its traditionally white schools only with other 
traditionally white schools, and for its traditionally Negro 
schools, only with other traditionally Negro schools. The 
evidence in this case is clear that this manner of operating 
the athletic programs has had and continues to have the 
effect of influencing the choice of students within the sys­
tem.

The evidence further reflects that the defendants have 
continued to construct new schools and expand some exist­
ing schools; certainly, there is nothing wrong with this ex­
cept that the construction of the new schools with proposed 
limited capacities geared to the estimated white community 
needs and located in predominantly white neighborhoods 
and the expansion of the existing schools located in pre­
dominantly Negro neighborhoods violate both the spirit 
and the letter of the desegregation plan for the Montgomery 
County School System. Examples of this are the construc­
tion of the Jefferson Davis High School, the Peter Crump 
Elementary School and the Southlawn Elementary School 
—all in predominantly white neighborhoods—and the ex­
pansion of Hayneville Road School and the Carver High



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School, both in predominantly Negro neighborhoods. The 
location of these schools and their proposed capacities cause 
the effect of this construction and expansion to perpetuate 
the dual school system based upon race in the Montgomery 
County School System.

As to transportation, the defendants have failed to elimi­
nate the bus routes where there exists overlapping and 
duplication based upon race. Thus the defendants have 
continued to perpetuate the dual school system through 
their transportation system. The defendants in designat­
ing three new schools located in predominantly white neigh­
borhoods, viz., Jefferson Davis High, Peter Crump Ele­
mentary and Southlawn Elementary, as “ nontransported” 
schools (schools to which no transportation is provided) 
are also attempting to further perpetuate the dual school 
system.

One of the most aggravating courses of conduct on the 
part of the defendants and their agents and employees re­
lates to the new Jefferson Davis High School to be located 
in the City of Montgomery and operated commencing with 
the school year 1968-69. The defendants in locating this

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school placed it in a predominantly white section of Mont­
gomery. The evidence reflects that in determining the 
capacity of the school they approximated the number of 
white students residing in the general vicinity and con­
structed the school accordingly; they have adopted a school 
name and a school crest that are designed to create the 
impression that it is to be a predominantly white school; 
they have hired a principal, three coaches and a band di­
rector, all of whom are white; they have actively engaged 
in a fund-raising campaign for athletic and band programs



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only through white persons in the community; they have 
contacted only predominantly white schools for the sched­
uling of athletic events and they have made tentative ar­
rangements to join the Alabama High School Athletic As­
sociation—the white association. Extensive publicity has 
been released concerning the white faculty members and 
the football schedule with all white schools. Discussion of 
the athletic program has been held by the new school offi­
cials only with white athletes. The dissemination of infor­
mation about spring football practice in pamphlet form 
has been made by the school staff only to white persons.

All of this means that the defendants have failed to dis­
charge the affirmative duty the law places upon them to 
eliminate the operation of a dual school system. Under 
such circumstances this Court considers it necessary and 
entii’ely appropriate to establish now more specific require­
ments governing minimum amounts of progress in the 
future in these several areas. In establishing these rules, 
it should be emphasized that strong consideration is given 
to the ratio of white to Negro students; however, in view 
of the fact that the plaintiffs and the United States have 
as of February 21, 1968, filed a motion to supplement the 
March 22, 1967, order of the three-judge court in Lee, et al. 
v. Macon County Board of Education, et al., 267 F. Supp. 
458, in the area of school athletic programs, this Court will 
not at this time make any further specific findings, con­
clusions or order concerning the dual athletic program 
operated by the Montgomery County School System and 
will not at this time outline any steps that the defendants 
may be required to take in order to eliminate such practice. 
This phase of the matter as now presented will be reserved 
pending hearing and disposition of the motion in Lee, et al.



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v. Macon County Board of Education, et al., which is pres­
ently scheduled for a hearing March 9, 1968.

The manner in which the defendants have constructed 
new schools, the location and proposed capacity of these

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schools, and the manner in which the defendants have ex­
panded Negro schools and the location of these Negro 
schools make it clear that the effect of these new construc­
tions and the effect of the expansions have been designed to 
perpetuate, and have the effect of perpetuating, the dual 
school system in the Montgomery County schools. Further­
more, the operation of the school bus routes as presently 
operated by the defendants continues to violate the Four­
teenth Amendment of the Constitution. Because of these 
factors this Court is under a duty and an obligation to 
outline and specify certain affirmative steps that must be 
taken by the defendants to eliminate the dual school sys­
tem based upon race and to overcome the effects of certain 
efforts that have been made, as above outlined, to perpetu­
ate this dual school system.

In implementing the requirements of this Court’s orders 
heretofore made in this case and the supplemental require­
ments outlined herein and in the attached supplemental de­
segregation plan, the Montgomery County School Board, 
the individual members thereof, and particularly the princi­
pals of the several schools should be guided by three 
caveats:

First, the law will not tolerate any further undue delay 
in the desegregation of the public school systems. It has 
been almost fourteen years since school boards were placed 
under an affirmative duty to disestablish their dual school 
systems based upon race. Brown v. Board of Education of 
Topeka, supra. The Courts have recently—particularly in



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the Fifth Circuit— emphatically stated that no further de­
lays in the desegregation process would be allowed. This 
was recognized and reaffirmed by the three-judge court in 
Lee v. Macon, supra, in its order of April 15, 1967 (unre­
ported), when it was stated:

Further delay in the desegregation of Alabama pub­
lic schools is inconsistent with existing law. The Su­
preme Court of the United States in Goss v. Board of 
Education, 373 U. S. 683 (1963), stated: “Delays in 
desegregating schools systems are no longer tolerable.” 
See also Calhoun v. Latimer, 377 U. S. 263; Watson v. 
City of Memphis, 373 U. S. 526, and Bradley v. School 
Board of City of Richmond, 382 U. S. 103 (1965). The 
law is clear that state authorities are “duty bound to 
devote every effort toward initiating desegregation 
and bringing about the elimination of racial discrimi­
nation in the public school system.” Cooper v. Aaron, 
358 U. S. 1, 7. Following this philosophy, the United 
States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit has re­
fused to permit delay in this area. Davis v. Board of 
School Commissioners of Mobile County, Alabama, 
322 F. 2d 356 (1963); Singleton v. Jackson Municipal 
Separate School District, 348 F. 2d 729 (1965); United 
States v. Wilcox County Board of Education, 366 F. 
2d 769 (1966).

Second, in the area of desegregating the faculties and 
staffs in the several schools in the system, the defendants 
may not justify or excuse any further delay upon the

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ground that some of the teachers are reluctant to teach in 
schools predominantly of the opposite race. Again, the



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controlling legal principle in connection with this phase 
of the problem was announced by the three-judge court in 
Lee v. Macon, supra, in its order of June 14, 1967 (unre­
ported), wherein the Court stated that desegregation of 
facilities and staffs must be accomplished “ either by in­
ducing voluntary transfers by teachers, the filling of va­
cancies, or, if they cannot achieve faculty desegregation by 
such means, then by the assignment and transfer of teach­
ers from one school to the other.”

Third, that unless the “ freedom-of-choice” plan is more 
effectively and less dilatorily used by the defendants in this 
case, this Court will have no alternative except to order 
some other plan used. Caution in this area of the problem 
was expressed by the three-judge court in Lee v. Macon, 
supra, in its order of March 22, 1967, when it stated:

Invariably in this area of our country the “ freedom- 
of-choice” plan has been chosen by the courts and the 
school systems themselves as the method to effectuate 
the requirements of the Fourteenth Amendment in the 
field of desegregation of public educational facilities. 
This is the plan which this Court will require—for the 
time being—these defendant officials to implement 
throughout the State of Alabama.27 This Court recog­
nizes that in the freedom-of-choice plan there are many 
administrative complexities. It may be that these ad­
ministrative problems will make some other method 
advisable in the future. It may well he that the free- 
dom-of-choice method of desegregation will not fully

27 The reasons are obvious why school officials have not chosen 
other plans such as the “neighborhood school” plan, for under 
such a plan white students would be immediately required to 
attend Negro schools located in their neighborhoods.



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and completely disestablish the dual public school sys­
tem based upon race.28 However, for the time being, 
provided that all of the factors designed to influence 
and having the effect of influencing choice be elimi­
nated, the freedom-of-choice plan will be put into effect 
upon a state-wide basis. It should be emphasized that, 
if choice influencing factors are not eliminated, free­
dom of choice is a fantasy. A “ freedom-of-choice” 
plan ordered by a court or adopted by school authori­
ties is not an end in itself; it is but a means to an 
end. The plan must operate in such a manner as to 
meet the constitutional mandate of the Fourteenth 
Amendment. As was stated in the concurring opinion 
in Bradley v. School Board, 345 F. 2d 310, 323:

Affirmative action means more than telling those 
who have long been deprived of freedom of educa­
tional opportunity, “ you now have a choice.” In 
many instances the choice will not be meaningful 
unless the administrators are willing to bestow ex­
tra effort and expense to bring the deprived pupils 
up to the level where they can avail themselves of 
the choice in fact as well as in theory . . . The 
district judge must determine whether the means 
exist for the exercise of a choice that is truly free 
and not merely pro forma.

28 The United States Supreme Court has not yet ruled on the 
freedom-of-choice method of ending racial segregation in the 
field of public education. However, Goss v. Board of Educa­
tion, 373 U.S. 688 (1963), has been cited as support for such 
a plan. See Bradley v. School Board, 345 F . 2d 310, 318 (4th 
Cir. 1965).

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Several “ freedom-of-choice” plans for desegregating dual 
school systems based upon race have recently been found



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as “ not operating in a constitutionally acceptable manner.” 
Coppedge v. Franklin County Board of Education (E. D. 
N. D. Aug. 1967), 273 F. Supp. 289, and Moses v. Washing­
ton Parish School Board (E. D. La., Oct. 19, 1967), 276 
F. Supp. 834.

In accordance with the foregoing, it is the Order, J udg­
m e n t  and D ecree of this Court that the defendants, their 
agents, officers, employees and successors, and all those in 
active concert or participation with them, shall adopt and 
implement the attached supplement to the desegregation 
plan herein ordered on June 1,1967.

This Court specifically retains jurisdiction of this cause.

Done, this the 24th day of February, 1968.

F rank  M. J oh nson , J r.
United States District Judge



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SUPPLEMENT TO DESEGKEGATION PLAN

I. Faculty and Staff

A. Statement of Objective.

In achieving the objective of the school system, that the 
pattern of teacher assignments to any particular school 
shall not be identifiable as tailored for a heavy concen­
tration of either Negro or white pupils in the school, the 
school board will be guided by the ratio of Negro to white 
faculty members in the school system as a whole.

The school board will accomplish faculty desegregation 
by hiring and assigning faculty members so that in each 
school the ratio of white to Negro faculty members is 
substantially the same as it is throughout the system. At 
present, the ratio is approximately 3 to 2. This will be 
accomplished in accordance with the schedule set out below.

B. Schedule for Faculty Desegregation.

1. 1968-69 . At every school with fewer than 12 teachers, 
the board will have at least two full-time teachers whose 
race is different from the race of the majority of the faculty 
and staff members at the school.

At every school with 12 or more teachers, the race of 
at least one of every six faculty and staff members will be 
different from the race of the majority of the faculty and 
staff members at the school. This Court will reserve, for 
the time being, other specific faculty and staff desegregation 
requirements for future years.

C. Means of Accomplishment.

If the school board is unable to achieve faculty deseg­
regation by inducing voluntary transfers or by filling va­



504

cancies, then it will do so by the assignment and transfer 
of teachers from one school to another.

D. Substitute Teachers.

Commencing March 1, 1968, the ratio of the number of 
days taught by white substitute teachers to the number of 
days taught by Negro substitute teachers at each school 
during each semester will be substantially the same as the 
ratio of white substitute teachers to Negro substitute teach­
ers on the list of substitute teachers at the beginning of the 
semester.

Commencing with the 1968-69 school year, the board will 
not use an individual as a substitute teacher in the Mont­
gomery Public Schools if he will consent to substitute only

at predominantly white schools or only at predominantly 
Negro schools.

E. Student Teachers.

Commencing March 1, 1968, the ratio of white to Negro 
student teachers each semester in each school that uses 
student teachers will be substantially the same as the ratio 
of white and Negro student teachers throughout the 
system.

F. Night Schools.

Commencing June 1, 1968, the ratio of white to Negro 
faculty members at each night school will be substantially 
the same as the ratio of white to Negro faculty members 
thro\ighout the night-school program.



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II. New Construction

Tlie school board will obtain approval from the State 
Superintendent of Education prior to letting contracts for 
or proceeding with the construction of any new school or 
any additions to an existing school. The State Superin­
tendent will, upon receipt of such proposals, take appro­
priate action on said proposals as recpiired by the March 
22, 1967, decree entered in Lee, et al. v. Macon County 
Board of Education, et al., 267 F. Supp. 458, 470-472, 480- 
481.

III. Transportation

The school hoard will adopt nondiscriminatory bus routes 
and criteria governing the availability of bus transporta­
tion to students. Race will not be a basis for assigning 
students to school buses, and overlapping and duplicative 
bus routes based on race will be eliminated. By June 1, 
1968, the school board will file with the Court the criteria 
it has adopted and a map or maps of bus routes for the 
1968-69 school year. Along with the map, the school board 
will file a report indicating for each bus in its system, the 
number of students by race that the bus is expected to 
transport, the capacity of the bus, the number of miles 
the bus is expected to travel one way, and the school or 
schools the bus will serve. The board will serve the United 
States, as amicus curiae, with copies of the criteria, the 
report, and the map or maps. IV.

IV. Jefferson Davis High School,
Peter Crump School, and Southlawn School

The school board will take affirmative action to eradicate 
the effect of the efforts it and its employees have made to



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create the impression throughout the school system that
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Jefferson Davis High School, Peter Crump Elementary 
School and Southlawn Elementary School are to be used 
primarily by white students. The action will include, but 
not be limited to, the following steps:

A. Letter to Eligible Students.

By March 1, 1968, the school board will send to every 
student presently enrolled in grades 9, 10 and 11 in the 
public schools of Montgomery County a letter such as that 
set forth in Attachment A  to this supplementary plan. A 
copy of the information sheet on choice forms and spring 
football practice, such as has heretofore been distributed 
to white students and parents, will be enclosed with each 
letter addressed to a male student.

B. Visits to Schools.

In the company of either the principal or a coach pre­
viously assigned to Jefferson Davis High School, that 
school’s new coach will visit each high school and junior 
high school in Montgomery. They will inform the male 
students in grades 9, 10 and 11 at those schools of the rules 
concerning their eligibility to participate in athletics at 
Jefferson Davis High School. They will also inform the 
athletes when and where spring football practice is to 
begin for the new high school and of the procedures they 
should follow in order to participate. They will also make 
themselves available to answer any questions these stu­
dents may have about Jefferson Davis High School.



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C. Transportation.

The school hoard will, on the choice forms, offer to pro­
vide transportation to Jefferson Davis High School, Peter 
Crump Elementary School and Southlawn Elementary 
School, until further order of this Court. The choice forms 
will indicate that transportation is to be provided to those 
schools. The school board will provide transportation to 
each student who chooses Jefferson Davis High School and 
who lives outside the City of Montgomery and more than 
two miles from the school and who lives nearer Jefferson 
Davis High School than either Lee or Lanier High School, 
in the absence of compelling circumstances approved by 
the Court on the school board’s motion.

D. Honoring Choices.

The school board will honor the choice of each Negro 
student who chooses to attend Jefferson Davis High School 
during the 1968-69 school year, in the absence of com­
pelling circumstances approved by the Court on the school

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board’s motion.

Y. Reports

The school board will report to the Court every three 
months, beginning March 15,1968, the steps taken to comply 
with the desegregation plan ordered into effect June 1, 
1967, and with this supplementary plan. Plaintiffs and the 
United States will be served with copies of the reports.

A. Reports Previously Ordered.

The school board will include in reports filed each June 
15 the “ report on choice period” and “ report on faculty



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assignments” described in Part VII of the plan ordered 
June 1, 1967. The report after school opening, also de­
scribed in Part VII of the 1967 order, will become part 
of the reports filed each September 15.

B. Faculty.

1. New teachers. Each report filed will list each new 
teacher hired during the preceding three months and give 
his race and the school to which he is assigned.

2. Substitute teachers. Each report will list the number 
of days taught by substitute teachers, by race and by 
school, during the preceding three months, with the excep­
tion that the report filed March 15, 1968, will give this 
information only from the date of the order to which this 
supplementary plan is attached.

3. Student teachers. Each report will show by race the 
number of student teachers assigned during the preceding 
three months to each school having student teachers.

4. Night schools. Commencing June 15,1968, each report 
will show by race the number of faculty and staff members 
assigned to the night program of each school having a 
night program.

C. Transportation.

Each report filed each year on September 15 will show, 
for each school bus, the number of students transported 
by race, the capacity of the bus, the number of miles it 
travels one way, and the school or schools it serves.

D. Jefferson Davis High School and Other New Schools.

The reports of March 15, 1968, June 15, 1968, and Sep­
tember 15, 1968 will show the steps (COPY ILLEGIBLE— 
PLEASE SUPPLY) to comply with Part V of this sup­
plementary plan.



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ATTACHMENT A 

Montgomery Public Schools

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Date

Dear Student:

We are sending you this letter to inform you that you 
are eligible to attend Jefferson Davis High School if you 
choose to do so. The choice period for Montgomery County 
schools begins March 1, 1968, and you or your parents will 
be receiving a choice form within the next few days.

Jefferson Davis High School is a new school in southeast 
Montgomery, to be opened in the fall of 1968. A  senior high 
school only, it will have grades ten through twelve. Bus 
transportation to the school will be available to students 
who live outside the City of Montgomery and more than 
two miles from the school provided the student exercising 
such choice lives nearer Jefferson Davis than either Lee 
or Lanier High School.

We are in the process of forming a faculty and staff for 
the new school now. It will include a substantial number 
of persons of both races.

All students will be welcome to participate in all extra­
curricular activities, including athletics and band, on the 
same basis and without regard to race. Spring football 
practice is scheduled to begin March 4, 1968, at Cloverdale 
Junior High School. Two days before that, Saturday, 
March 2, at 9:30 a.m., prospective players will be fitted 
for equipment at the Cloverdale Community Center in 
Montgomery. All athletes who choose to attend Jefferson



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Davis High School are welcomed to participate. You 
should read the enclosed instruction sheet (sent only to 
male students) if you are interested.

Enclosure

Sincerely,

Superintendent 
Montgomery Public Schools



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Writ of Injunction Dated February 24, 1968

In the

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labam a  
N orthern D ivision

To the Above-Named Defendants and Each of Them:

T ake  notice that you and each of you, your agents, 
officers, employees and successors, and all those in active 
concert or participation with you, who shall receive notice 
of this order, be and you are hereby Ordered and E njoined  
as more fully set out in the Memorandum Opinion of this 
Honorable Court made and entered in this cause on this 
date, a copy of which is herewith served upon each of you.

This writ of injunction is issued in accordance with 
said Memorandum Opinion.

W itness my hand and the seal of this Court at Mont­
gomery, Alabama, on this the 24th day of February, 1968.

R. C. D obson

Clerk of the United States 
District Court for the 

Middle District of Alabama



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Notice of Appeal

(Filed February 27, 1968)

I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

Notice is hereby given that the Montgomery County 
Board of Education, James W. Rutland, Fred Bear, Dr. 
J. Edward Walker, Isabelle Thomasson, Dr. Robert Parker 
and Walter T. McKee, defendants above named, hereby 
appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the 
Fifth Circuit from the injunction and order of the United 
States District Court for the middle district of Alabama, 
Northern Division, entered in this action on the 24th day 
of February, 1968, as fully set forth in the memorandum 
opinion of the same date.

D one, this the 27th day of February, 1968.

H ill , R obison, B elser and  P helps 
Attorneys for Appellant-Defendants

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513

Bond for Costs on Appeal

(Filed February 28, 1968)

I n th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

The defendants, Montgomery County Board of Educa­
tion, James W. Rutland, Jr., Fred Bear, Dr. J. Edward 
Walker, Isabelle B. Thomasson and Dr. Robert Parker, 
Members of the Montgomery County Board of Education 
and Walter T. McKee, Superintendent of Education of 
Montgomery County, Alabama, as principals, having filed 
notice of appeal from the injunction and order of this 
Court entered February 24, 1968, to the United States 
Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, herewith deposits 
in the Registry of the Court the sum of Two Hundred 
Fifty Dollars ($250.00), subject to the orders of the Court 
for security that said appellants shall prosecute their 
said appeal to effect; and that said appellants shall pay 
to plaintiffs-appellees all costs if the appeal is dismissed 
or the judgment affirmed, or such costs as the Appellate 
Court may award if the judgment is modified.

Dated this 28th day of February, 1968.

H ill , R obison, B elser and P helps 
Attorneys for Appellants-Defendants

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Motion for Suspension and Stay of Injunction

and Order During Pendency of Appeal

(Filed February 28, 1968)

In th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labam a  
N orthern D ivision

Upon the proceedings heretofore had herein, motions, 
answers and other papers filed herein, and the affidavit of 
V. H. Robison sworn to February 28, 1968, as attached 
hereto and made a part hereof, the defendants, Mont­
gomery County Board of Education, James W. Rutland, 
Jr., Fred Bear, Dr. J. Edward Walker, Isabelle B. Thomas- 
son, and Dr. Robert Parker, Members of the Montgomery 
County Board of Education, and Walter T. McKee, Super­
intendent of Education of Montgomery County, Alabama, 
move the Court for an Order suspending the injunction and 
order heretofore entered against these defendants, pend­
ing the hearing and determination of these defendants’ 
appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the 
Fifth Circuit from the Order, Judgment and Decree of this 
Honorable Court entered February 24, 1968, and for such 
other and further relief as to the Court may seem proper.

H ill , R obison, B elser and P helps 
Attorneys for Appellants-Defendants

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Certificate of Service (omitted in printing)



515

Affidavit in Support of Motion for 
Stay Pending Appeal

I n th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

Before me, Connie J. Knight, this day personally ap­
peared V. H. Robison, who is known to me and who, being 
by me first dnly sworn, doth depose and say as follows:

1. I am, as the attorney of record for the defendants 
Montgomery County Board of Education, James W. Rut­
land, Jr., Fred Bear, Dr. J. Edward Walker, Isabelle B. 
Thomasson, and Dr. Robert Parker, Members of the Mont­
gomery County Board of Education, and Walter T. McKee, 
Superintendent of Education of Montgomery County, Ala­
bama, fully familiar with the facts and proceedings in this 
action. I submit this affidavit in support of the annexed 
motion. 2 *

2. The order and injunction as issued by the United
States District Court for the Middle District of Alabama 
on February 24,1968 contains far reaching pronouncements 
of legal principles heretofore unprecedented in this Dis­
trict and this Circuit. These said pronouncements specif­
ically include the order and directive to the above-named 
defendants to assign and to transfer faculty members, 
student teachers and substitute teachers in all schools in 
this system or from one school to another, according to a

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fixed ratio based on race. The said order and injunction
—424—

additionally include requirements and directives to these 
defendants that they give an affirmative racial preference 
to students for school attendance regardless of the prox­
imity of the residence of the student to the school involved.

The said order further requires these defendants to 
notify all students throughout Montgomery County that 
they are eligible to attend the Jefferson Davis High School 
when such notice is inconsistent with other provisions of 
the said order and inconsistent with prior orders of the 
Court.

3. The above provisions of the Court’s order dated Feb­
ruary 24, 1968, as well as the compulsory transportation 
provisions thereof, the necessity for which not being sup­
ported by the evidence or the applicable law, will cause 
extensive student and procedural confusion and will dis­
rupt orderly school administration in this County, and 
would result in students living in close proximity to the 
Jefferson Davis High School being subject to denial of 
admittance based on race, in preference to a student living 
as far as 25 or 30 miles away, and would subject the 
student living within 100 yards of the school to have to 
travel to another school more than two miles away. 4 *

4. On the 27th day of February, 1968, these defendants 
filed their notice of appeal from the said Order of Feb­
ruary 24, 1968 to the United States Court of Appeals for 
the Fifth Circuit. The usual bond for costs on appeal was 
filed on February 28, 1968. A  copy of this said notice of 
appeal, together with a copy of the said bond for costs on 
appeal are attached hereto as Exhibits 1 and 2.



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5. It is respectfully submitted that during the pendency 
of this appeal, the injunctive provisions as set forth above 
and as contained in the order of the Court dated Feb­
ruary 24, 1968, should be stayed, particularly in light of 
the many important legal questions and unresolved issues 
therein presented. In deponent’s opinion, the decision as 
contained in the said order is in error and is in conflict 
with the mandates of the Constitution of the United States, 
the Supreme Court of the United States, and the Fifth

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Circuit Court of Appeals. Because of the serious issues and 
important questions of law involved in this appeal, these 
defendants ought not to be subjected to the drastic effect 
of the said injunction pending appeal and ought not to be 
subjected pending appeal to the unreasonable adminis­
trative burdens resulting from the said injunction. 6

6. It is the opinion of your deponent that to subject this 
school system to the provisions of the injunction and order 
of the Court dated February 24, 1968, pending appeal, 
would result in irreparable injury to the school system of 
Montgomery County, even upon a reversal of the order.

W herefore, for all of the foregoing reasons, these de­
fendants respectfully pray that the provisions of the in­
junction and order of the Court dated February 24, 1968 
be stayed during the pendency of this appeal.

V . H . R obison

(Sworn to February 28,1968)



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EXHIBIT 1 ANNEXED TO AFFIDAVIT 

Notice of Appeal

Notice is hereby given that the Montgomery County 
Board of Education, James W. Rutland, Fred Bear, Dr. J. 
Edward Walker, Isabelle Thomasson, Dr. Robert Parker 
and Walter T. McKee, defendants above named, hereby 
appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth 
Circuit from the injunction and order of the United States 
District Court for the middle district of Alabama, North­
ern Division, entered in this action on the 24th day of 
February, 1968, as fully set forth in the memorandum 
opinion of the same date.

D one, this the 27th day of February, 1968.

H ill , R obison, B elser and P helps 
Attorneys for Appellant-Defendants



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EXHIBIT 2 ANNEXED TO AFFIDAVIT 

Bond for Costs on Appeal

The defendants, Montgomery County Board of Educa­
tion, James W. Rutland, Jr., Fred Bear, Dr. J. Edward 
Walker, Isabelle B. Thomasson and Dr. Robert Parker, 
Members of the Montgomery County Board of Education 
and Walter T. McKee, Superintendent of Education of 
Montgomery County, Alabama, as principals, having filed 
notice of appeal from the injunction and order of this 
Court entered February 24, 1968, to the United States 
Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, herewith deposits 
in the Registry of the Court the sum of Two Hundred 
Fifty Dollars ($250.00), subject to the orders of the Court 
for security that said appellants shall prosecute their said 
appeal to effect; and that said appellants shall pay to 
plaintiffs-appellees all costs if the appeal is dismissed or 
the judgment affirmed, or such costs as the Appellate Court 
may award if the judgment is modified.

Dated this 28th day of February, 1968.

H ill , R obison, B elser and P helps 
Attorneys for Appellant-Defendants



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Order Amending Order and Injunction of 
February 24, 1968

(Filed March 2,1968)

I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

Upon consideration of the defendants’ motion to stay 
the order and injunction made and entered herein on 
February 24, 1968, and the arguments in support thereof 
and in opposition thereto, it is considered appropriate, 
in order to accomplish the intent and purpose of this 
Court and in order to clarify the order and injunction 
in certain specific respects, to amend the order made and 
entered February 24, 1968.

Accordingly, it is Ordered that:

(1) That portion of Part IV, C, reading:

The school board will provide transportation to 
each student who chooses Jefferson Davis High 
School and who lives outside the City of Mont­
gomery and more than two miles from the school 
and who lives nearer Jefferson Davis High School 
than either Lee or Lanier High School, in the 
absence of compelling circumstances approved by 
the Court on the school board’s motion,



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is amended to read:

The school board will provide transportation to 
each student who chooses Jefferson Davis High 
School and who lives outside the City of Mont­
gomery and more than two miles from the school 
and wTho lives nearer Jefferson Davis High School 
than either Lee, Lanier, or Montgomery County 
High School, in the absence of compelling cir­
cumstances approved by the Court on the school 
board’s motion.

(2) That portion of Part I, D, reading:

Commencing March 1, 1968, the ratio of the num­
ber of days taught by white substitute teachers 
to the number of days taught by Negro substitute

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teachers at each school during each semester will 
be substantially the same as the ratio of white 
substitute teachers to Negro substitute teachers 
on the list of substitute teachers at the beginning 
of the semester,

is amended to read:

Commencing in September, 1968, with the 1968-69 
school year, the ratio of the number of days 
taught by white substitute teachers to the number 
of days taught by Negro substitute teachers at 
each school during each semester will be sub­
stantially the same as the ratio of white sub­
stitute teachers to Negro substitute teachers on 
the list of substitute teachers at the beginning 
of the semester.



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(3) That Part I, E, reading:

Commencing March 1, 1968, the ratio of white 
to Negro student teachers each semester in each 
school that uses student teachers will be sub­
stantially the same as the ratio of white and 
Negro student teachers throughout the system,

is amended to read:

Commencing in September, 1968, with the 1968-69 
school year, the ratio of white to Negro student 
teachers each semester in each school that uses 
student teachers will be substantially the same 
as the ratio of white and Negro student teachers 
throughout the system.

(4) That portion of “Attachment A ” to the injunction 
wherein it is stated:

We are sending you this letter to inform you 
that you are eligible to attend Jefferson Davis 
High School if you choose to do so,

is amended to read:

We are sending you this letter to inform you 
that you are eligible to choose to attend Jefferson 
Davis High School if you desire to do so.

(5) That portion of Part I, B, reading:

(1) 1968 -69 . At every school with fewer than 12 
teachers, the board will have at least two full­
time teachers whose race is different from the 
race of the majority of the faculty and staff 
members at the school,



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is amended to read:

(1) 1968-69 . At every school with fewer than 12 
teachers, the board will have at least one full­
time teacher whose race is different from the 
race of the majority of the faculty and staff 
members at the school.

Done, this the 2nd day of March, 1968.

F rank M. Johnson, Jr. 
United States District Judge



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Order

(Filed March 2, 1968)

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I n THE
UNITED STATES DISTBICT COUBT

F oe the M iddle District of A labama 
N orthern Division

The motion of the Montgomery County Board of Educa­
tion filed herein on February 28, 1968, seeking an order 
suspending and staying the order and injunction of this 
Court made and entered in this case on February 24, 1968, 
is now presented. The submission is upon the motion, the 
record and the arguments of counsel.

From 1954—when the Supreme Court of the United 
States put the Montgomery County School Board and other 
school boards throughout this country on notice that they 
could not continue under the law to operate a dual school 
system based on color—until this Court found it necessary 
to enter an order on July 31, 1964, requiring commencement 
of the desegregation of the public schools in Montgomery 
County, Alabama, the Montgomery County Board of Edu­
cation had taken no steps and had made no plans whatso­
ever to comply with the law of this land in the area of 
school desegregation. Even though ten years had passed 
when this matter came on for a hearing in 1964, the Mont­
gomery County Board of Education was allowed, by this 
Court, to proceed with desegregation gradually, for the 
reason that it was realized that desegregation of the public 
schools cut across the social fabric of this community and 
that there would be both administrative and other prac­



525

tical problems for the board to cope with in order to comply 
with the law. In the first phase of accomplishing desegre­
gation of the public schools—that is, the adoption of a plan, 
which has been referred to as “paper compliance”—the 
Board of Education proceeded with the minimum required 
by the Court, but in a manner that was acceptable. The

—431—
next stage of the desegregation process—the token deseg­
regation of the schools and faculty—was also accomplished 
by the Board in an acceptable manner. However, we have 
reached the point where we must pass “ tokenism,” and 
the order that was entered in this case on February 24,1968, 
is designed to accomplish this purpose. It was not designed 
to and was not intended to accomplish, and, if complied with, 
will not require more than the Supreme Court of the 
United States and the other appellate courts have held 
must be accomplished in order to desegregate a public 
school system.

The Board of Education in its motion to suspend and 
stay the order of this Court pending appeals—which may 
take a year or longer— emphasizes certain particular fea­
tures of this Court’s order of February 24, 1968. In some 
instances the emphasis is misplaced, and certainly that part 
of the motion which states that the February 24, 1968, order 
“ contains far reaching pronouncements of legal principles 
heretofore unprecedented in this District and this Circuit” 
is incorrect—both in law and in fact. The Montgomery 
board complains about that part of the order requiring 
assignment and transfer of faculty members, student teach­
ers and substitute teachers according to a fixed ratio based 
on race. While this Court did state in its order of Feb­
ruary 24, 1968, that the “ultimate objective” in faculty 
desegregation should be, because of the ratio of white to



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Negro faculty members in the school system, approximately 
3 to 2, no schedule was set up to accomplish this “ultimate 
objective.” The United States requested that a definite 
schedule be outlined for this accomplishment. However, 
gradualism has been found to work quite successfully in 
the past in this type case and particularly with the Mont­
gomery County Board of Education, and gradualism is con­
templated by this Court in accomplishing this “ultimate 
objective.” What is actually required in the area of faculty 
desegregation in the high schools for the 1968-69 school 
year is very little—if any—more than the testimony reflects 
the school board planned without an additional court order. 
For instance, the school board presented testimony by Mr. 
Jack D. Rutland, the school principal for the new Jefferson 
Davis High School, to the effect that he contemplated hiring 
approximately 35 teachers, 7 of whom were to be Negroes. 
Thus, what is now ordered in the way of faculty desegrega­
tion as far as the Jefferson Davis High School is concerned 
is not as much as this Court was led to believe by the board’s 
testimony would be accomplished by the board for the 1968- 
69 school year without any additional court order. This 
also applies to that part of the Court order as now amended 
requiring faculty desegregation for the other schools in the

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system. Thus, in the area of faculty desegregation, nothing 
more is required of the Montgomery County School Board 
by the order of February 24, 1968, than the law requires 
as a minimum at this stage of the desegregation process 
and very little, if any, is required more than the school 
board, by its testimony, advised this Court it was going 
to do anyway.

The school board’s complaint that the “ ratio” require­
ment is unprecedented is inaccurate. In Board of Educa­



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tion of Oklahoma City Public Schools v. Dowell, 375 F. 2d 
158, 164 (10th Cir. 1967), it was observed that:

Among the specific recommendations found in the 
report and embraced by the trial court’s order were:

*  *  *

(4) Desegregation of all faculty personnel so that by 
1970  the faculty ratio of whites to non-whites in each 
school will be the same as the faculty ratio of whites 
to non-whites in the entire school system, subject to 
a reasonable tolerance of approximately 10%. [Em­
phasis added, footnote omitted.]

The Fifth Circuit has not addressed itself to the means to 
be employed to fully achieve faculty desegregation. It has 
approved “ racial criteria” in assignments “ in fashioning 
an appropriate remedy to undo past discrimination.” 
United States v. Jefferson County Board of Education, 
372 F. 2d 836, 892 (5th Cir. 1967). The opinion in that case 
recognized that requiring a percentage ratio of teachers 
in the system was one method of meeting the problem:

We anticipate that when district courts and this Court 
have gained more experience with faculty integration, 
the Court will be able to set forth standards more spe­
cifically than they are set forth in the decrees in the 
instant case. 372 F. 2d at 894.

In meeting this problem of faculty desegregation, other 
district courts have found it necessary to spell out in spe­
cific numbers the degree of faculty desegregation required 
where the local school boards have not proceeded with “de­
liberate speed.” See Coppedge v. Franklin County Board 
of Education, 273 F. Supp. 289 (E.D. N.C. 1967); Kier v. 
County School Board, 249 F. Supp. 239 (W.D. Ya. 1966).



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The school board also complains as to that feature of the 
order relating to transportation. The order as now amended 
does not require the school board to do anything in the 
area of transportation of students that is not already re­
quired of practically every school in the State of Alabama 
and particularly each of the 99 schools subject to the order 
of the three-judge court in Lee v. Macon County Board of 
Education, 267 F. Supp. 458. As a matter of fact, that part 
of the order of this Court of February 24, 1968, that relates 
to transportation is almost a duplicate of what is required 
of other schools throughout the State of Alabama in the 
area of transportation.

—433—
That particular feature of this Court’s order of February 

24, 1968, requiring transportation to the Jefferson Davis 
High School only requires transportation on the same basis 
that the school board is already providing it to Lee and 
Lanier High Schools. As was emphasized in the opinion 
and order of February 24, 1968, the Montgomery County 
School Board, according to the preponderance of the evi­
dence, has set out to continue to operate—other than allow­
ing token desegregation—a dual school system based upon 
race or color. The evidence clearly reflects that the manner 
in which this is to be accomplished is by the construction of 
schools with a limited capacity in virtually all-white neigh­
borhoods. These capacities are not projected with the com­
munity growth in mind. The recent trend by the Montgom­
ery board is to limit the capacity of these new schools to 
the present student population in these white enclaves. To 
perfect this plan, the school board has declared—before 
any choices are filed—that no transportation will be pro­
vided to the new Jefferson Davis High School, but that



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transportation will be provided to every other high school 
in the county. The announced justification for this is that 
the school will be filled to capacity without transporting 
any students. Thus, the board will, because of the location 
of these new schools (Jefferson Davis, Southlawn Elemen­
tary and Peter Crump Elementary), when it refuses to 
honor the choices of students who do not live in these 
white neighborhoods, be successful in operating exclusively 
white schools for white communities. At the same time the 
board has been doing this, it has been enlarging, through 
expansion programs, the Negro schools; these expansion 
programs are based upon the projected student growth. 
Through this means, the “ freedom-of-choice plan” will not 
accomplish desegregation of the school system in Mont­
gomery County, Alabama. If this system is permitted, the 
Montgomery board will be using the freedom-of-choice plan 
for part of the school system and the neighborhood school 
plan for another part of the system. The freedom-of-choice 
plan will be operating for schools such as Lee High, Lanier 
High, Capitol Heights, Jr. High, Goodwyn Jr. High and 
others, and these schools will be desegregated. The Jeffer­
son Davis High, Southlawn Elementary and Peter Crump 
Elementary Schools will be operated on a segregated basis 
—solely for the students residing in these exclusively white 
neighborhoods. The law will simply not permit the opera­
tion of such a system.

Furthermore, the evidence in this case is clear that the 
Jefferson Davis High School has been constructed in an 
exclusively white, predominantly high income-tax bracket 
community. To allow the Board of Education of Mont­
gomery County, Alabama, to succeed in such a plan will

not only be to discriminate against the Negro children who



530

might elect to attend Jefferson Davis High School, but will 
also, according to some theories, discriminate against white 
children who attend desegregated schools.

This Court has ordered no “busing” of students other 
than requiring the Board of Education to provide exactly 
the same type transportation and upon exactly the same 
basis as that already provided by the board to students 
attending Lee and Lanier High Schools.

The last aspect of this Court’s order that the board by 
its motion considers innovative to the point that the order 
should be stayed pending appeal is that pertaining to honor­
ing the choices of Negro students who choose to attend 
Jefferson Davis High School during the 1968-69 school year. 
As was emphasized in the February 24, 1968, order, the 
school board, through its agents and by its own practices, 
had set about to create and had created the impression 
throughout the system that the new air-conditioned Jeffer­
son Davis High School was to be an exclusively white school. 
No reasonable conclusion could be reached other than that 
this was for the purpose of deterring any Negro student 
in the system from choosing the Jefferson Davis school for 
the 1968-69 school year. The impression had been created 
that the school was not available-—even though the Mont­
gomery Board of Education is theoretically operating under 
a freedom-of-choice plan—for anyone except the 850 stu­
dents of the exclusively white, high-income group that com­
prise the community where the new school is located. 
Fairness and justice requires that something be done to 
counteract this aggravated type of discrimination. The 
order emphasizes that this feature is a temporary measure 
—presently designed only to operate during the 1968-69 
school year. The order further emphasizes that the choices 
of Negro students electing to attend Jefferson Davis High



531

School during the 1968-69 school year shall be honored 
in the absence of compelling circumstances to be approved 
by this Court on the school board’s motion. As to this 
feature of the order—as it has throughout this litigation— 
reasonableness will govern the Court’s action.

When motions to stay orders and injunctions are filed 
by litigants in any type of litigation, normal judicial pro­
cedure requires—as was done in this case—that the motion 
to stay be presented to the judge entering the order sought 
stayed. This invariably places the judge in the position 
of being required to review and appraise his own order; 
that is the situation now presented. This Court firmly be­
lieves that each and every provision and requirement in the 
order and injunction made and entered in this case on Feb­
ruary 24, 1968, is the minimum the applicable law will

— 435—
allow under the peculiar facts and circumstances presented 
and that each and every feature of the order and injunction 
entered in this case on February 24, 1968, is not only au­
thorized but required by the applicable law. However, it is 
not felt that any of the litigants will be prejudiced if cer­
tain features of the order to which the Montgomery County 
Board of Education most strenuously objects are stayed 
for a limited time so as to afford the Board of Education 
a reasonable time to secure appellate review of these fea­
tures of the order and injunction.

The feature with regard to transportation generally 
(which is, as has been emphasized, required of practically 
every other school in the State of Alabama), the features 
as now amended with regard to the desegregation of the 
substitute teacher program, the student teacher program 
and the night school program, will not be stayed. These do 
not even approach new or novel areas. That part of the 
order requiring the approval of the State Superintendent



532

of Education prior to letting new contracts or expanding 
existing schools is not novel and will not be stayed. Those 
portions regarding reports to this Court are not novel and 
are not to he stayed. That provision of the injunction as 
now amended relating to faculty and staff set out in Part I, 
B, will be stayed for a limited period pending an appeal. 
That provision of the order set out in Part IV, C, relating 
to transportation to the Jefferson Davis High School, Peter 
Crump Elementary School and Southlawn Elementary 
School, will be stayed for a limited time pending appeal. 
That provision of the order set out in Part IV, D, relating 
to the honoring of the choices of Negro students who elect 
to attend Jefferson Davis High School during the 1968-69 
school year, in the absence of compelling circumstances 
approved by the court on the school board’s motion, will be 
stayed for a limited time pending appeal. The remainder 
of the order, as stated above, will not be stayed.

There is a provision authorizing accelerated appeals 
where time is of the essence. This Court considers that 
time is of the essence as to these features of the injunction 
now being stayed pending this appeal. There is no reason 
why the school board, through its attorneys, cannot secure 
an accelerated hearing of this matter before a panel of 
the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. 
In this connection, both the board’s and government’s at­
torneys have orally assured this Court that they will seek 
to expedite the appeal of this case and will, by reason of 
the time limitations involved, request the Court of Appeals 
to accelerate the hearing and submission of the case. This

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will enable these features of the order to be reviewed by 
the appellate court prior to the commencement of the 1968- 
69 school year and will also, in the event one or more of



533

the provisions of the February 24, 1968, order are affirmed, 
enable the school board to put them into effect for the 
1968-69 school year. This procedure will allow appellate 
review of the order before it is scheduled to be effective 
and will also keep the Negro plaintiffs from being preju­
diced by any further undue delay. In the opinion of this 
Court, five months will be ample time to afford the school 
board, through its attorneys, an opportunity to secure an 
appellate review of these matters. Therefore, a stay order 
as to these features herein enumerated will be entered and 
the order of this Court of February 24, 1968, as to these 
enumerated features will not be effective until August 1, 
1968. Unless the school board secures an appellate review 
prior to that date, this stay now being entered will expire 
on that date. The Clerk of this Court and the official court 
reporter for this district stand ready to assist the school 
board in the preparation of the record in this case so as 
to facilitate the presentation of the matter to the appellate 
court.

Accordingly, it is the Order, Judgment and Decree of 
this Court that the effective date for complying with, and 
making plans to comply with, those provisions in the injunc­
tion made and entered herein on February 24, 1968, set 
out in Part I, B (faculty desegregation), Part IV, C (trans­
portation to Jefferson Davis High School, Peter Crump 
Elementary School and Southlawn Elementary School), 
and Part IV, D (the honoring of choices of Negro students 
who choose to attend Jefferson Davis High School during 
the 1968-69 school year) are hereby stayed until August 1, 
1968.

Done, this the 2nd day of March, 1968.

F rank M. Johnson, Jr.
United States District Judge



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Motion for Leave to Amend Notice of Appeal

(Filed March 6,1968)

In the

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or the M iddle District of A labama 
Northern Division

Come the Montgomery County Board of Education; 
James W. Rutland, Jr.; Fred Bear; George A. Dozier; 
Dr. J. Edward Walker; Isabelle B. Thomasson and Dr. 
Robert Parker, Members of the Board of Education; and 
Walter McKee, Superintendent of Education of Mont­
gomery County, Alabama, and move this Honorable Court 
for leave to amend the notice of appeal heretofore filed 
on February 27, 1968, so that said notice of appeal shall 
read as follows:

“Notice is hereby given that the Montgomery County 
Board of Education; James W. Rutland, Jr.; Fred 
Bear; George A. Dozier; Dr. J. Edward W alker; Isa­
belle B. Thomasson and Dr. Robert Parker, Members 
of the Board of Education; and Walter McKee, Su­
perintendent of Education of Montgomery County, 
Alabama, appeal to the United States Court of Ap­
peals for the Fifth Circuit from the injunction and 
order of the United States District Court for the 
Middle District of Alabama, Northern Division, en­
tered on the 24th day of February, 1968, as fully 
set forth in the memorandum opinion of the same 
date and as amended on the second day of March, 
1968.”

Done, this the 6th day of March, 1968.

H ill, Robison, B elser and Phelps 
Attorneys for Defendants



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Order Allowing Amendment of Notice of Appeal

(Filed March 6,1968)

In th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or the Middle District of A labama 
Northern Division

The motion to amend the notice of appeal heretofore 
tiled by the defendants having been considered by the 
Court, and the Court being of the opinion that the motion 
should be granted, it is hereby

Ordered that the motion for leave to amend the notice 
of appeal herein filed by the defendants be and the same 
is hereby granted.

Done this 6th day of March, 1968.

F rank M. Johnson, Jr.
United States District Judge



536

Amended Notice of Appeal

(Filed March 6,1968)

In the

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or the M iddle District of A labama 
Northern Division

With leave of the District Court being first had and 
obtained, the defendants herein do hereby amend the notice 
of appeal heretofore filed herein to read as follows:

“ Notice is hereby given that the Montgomery County 
Board of Education; James W. Rutland, Jr.; Fred 
Bear; George A. Dozier; Dr. J. Edward Walker; Isa­
belle B. Thomasson and Dr. Robert Parker, Members 
of the Board of Education; and Walter McKee, Su­
perintendent of Education of Montgomery County, 
Alabama, appeal to the United States Court of Ap­
peals for the Fifth Circuit from the injunction and 
order of the United States District Court for the 
Middle District of Alabama, Northern Division, en­
tered on the 24th day of February, 1968, as fully 
set forth in the memorandum opinion of the same 
date and as amended on the second day of March, 
1968.”

— 439—

H ill, Robison, B elser and Phelps 
Attorneys for Defendants



537

— 44a
Defendants’ Statement of Points

(Filed March 6,1968)

In the

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS 

F or the F ifth Circuit

No.

Montgomery County B oard of Education; James W . Rut­
land, Jr.; F red Bear; D r . J. Edward W alker; Isa­
belle B. T homasson; and D r . Robert Parker, Mem­
bers of the Montgomery County Board of Education; 
and W alter T. McK ee, Superintendent of Education 
of Montgomery County, Alabama,

Appellants,
v.

Arlam Carr, J r ., a minor, by A rlam Carr, and Johnnie 
Carr, his parents and next friends; Bathsheba L. 
Thompson, John W . T hompson, James G. T hompson, 
and Phillip L. T hompson, minors, by B ishop S. Thomp­
son, S r ., and Lois E. T hompson, their parents and next 
friends,

Appellees,
U nited States of A merica,

Amicus Curiae.

The defendant-appellants, Montgomery County Board 
of Education, James W. Rutland, Jr., Fred Bear, Dr.



538

J. Edward Walker, Isabelle B. Thomasson, and Dr. Robert 
Parker, Members of the Montgomery County Board of 
Education, and Walter T. McKee, Superintendent of Edu­
cation of Montgomery County, Alabama, state the follow­
ing points on which they intend to rely on their appeal 
from the order and judgment and decree as amended, 
granting an injunction herein:

1. The issuance of the order, judgment and decree as 
amended granting the injunction herein was contrary to 
the evidence.

2. The issuance of the order, judgment and decree as 
amended granting the injunction herein was contrary to 
the law.

3. The Court erred in its order and directive that the 
Montgomery County Board of Education assign and trans­
fer faculty members, student teachers and substitute 
teachers throughout all schools in the Montgomery County 
School System and from one such school to another, accord­
ing to a fixed ratio based on race.

— 441—
4. The order and directive by the Court that the Mont­

gomery County Board of Education assign and transfer 
faculty members, student teachers and substitute teachers 
throughout all schools in the Montgomery County system 
according to a fixed ratio based on race is contrary to 
the law. 5

5. The Court erred in its order and directive that the 
Montgomery County Board of Education give an affirma­
tive racial preference to students for attendance in the



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Jefferson Davis High School regardless of proximity of 
the residence of the student to the school involved.

6. The Court erred in its order and directive that the 
Montgomery County Board of Education provide trans­
portation to Jefferson Davis High School, Peter Crump 
Elementary School and Southlawn Elementary School.

7. There is no substantial evidence to support a finding 
or holding that these defendant appellants have not at 
all times complied with all orders of this Court.

H ill, Robison, B elser and Phelps 
Attorneys for Defendant-Appellants

Certificate of Service (omitted in printing).



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Comments at Conclusion of Hearing of May 5, 1965

(Filed May 5,1965)

In the

DISTRICT COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

F oe the Middle District of A labama 
Northern Division

Civil Action No. 2072-N.

A rlam Carr, Jr., a minor, by A rlam Carr and Johnnie 
Carr, his parents and next friends; and Bathsheba L. 
T hompson, John W . T hompson, James G. T hompson, 
and Phillip L. T hompson, minors, by Bishop S. T homp­
son, Sr. and Lois E. T hompson, their parents and next 
friends,

vs.

Montgomery County B oard of Education ; James W . Rut­
land, Jr., F red Bear, George C. Starke, George A. 
Dozier, Dr. J. E dward W alker, Isabelle B. T homasson 
and Dr. Robert Parker, Members of the Montgomery 
County Board of Education; and W alter McK ee, 
Superintendent of Education of Montgomery County.

(The above-styled cause coming on for Hearing Upon Ob­
jections to Proposed Desegregation Plan, at Mont­
gomery, Alabama, May 5, 1965, before Hon. Frank M. 
Johnson, Jr., Judge, a hearing was had, at the con­
clusion of which the following was dictated by the 
Court:)



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The Court: All right, Mr. Reporter, will you type this 
for the lawyers, please. Particularly Mr. Sutin, as amicus; 
I want you to prepare a court order for me along these 
lines:

The injunction that was issued by this Court on July 31, 
1964, of course, remains in full force and effect, except to 
the extent that it may be hereinafter formally modified by 
a court order, and what I am saying now is, of course, ten­
tative ; it will be formalized by an order to be prepared by 
Mr. Sutin along these lines and presented to you gentle­
men prior to the date it is to be presented to me, and I 
will confer with you at the time it is presented.

Under the plan as adopted pursuant to the order of the 
Court of July 31, 1964, as of September, ’64, grades one, 
ten, eleven, and twelve were desegregated under this 
“ transfer freedom of choice” plan. The Board now pro­
poses to the Court that in addition to grades one, ten, 
eleven, and twelve, they open and desegregate grades two

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and nine, effective September of this year. This Court is 
going to, with some minor modifications, approve this plan 
as proposed by the Montgomery Board. One modification 
is, in addition to grades two and nine that are to be de­
segregated and transfers accepted, effective September, 
’65, that the plan include grade seven. That means that as 
of September, ’65, the Board proposes to desegregate one, 
two, nine, ten, eleven, and twelve; the Court approves 
that, and in addition orders that grade seven be desegre­
gated.

Now, this “ notice” provision in the plan isn’t approved. 
I think the time is too short. There should be a thirty-day 
period for these parents to make application for transfer.



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And notice should be given to all Negro parents of students 
in the County System in lay language by letter from the 
Board, on or before June 10, as to their right to transfer 
as to grades seven, nine through twelve, and one and two. 
They should be advised as to their freedom of choice and 
their right to apply, in nonlegalistic language. This should 
be augmented and supplemented; that is, the letter to be 
sent not later than June 10 should be augmented and sup­
plemented by two newspaper ads—at least two; you can 
use more if you want to—published on June 20 and June 
27, or some other dates that may suit the convenience of 
the Board, but along about that time. Applications for 
transfer should be taken during the thirty-day period, and 
not during just a fifteen-day period; applications should 
be taken from June 21 through July 20. That will give the 
School Board plenty of time. In these notices that are in 
the paper and sent out by mail, the parents should be ad­
vised as to the school district that they are in, that they 
have a preference, if they desire to exercise that prefer­
ence by making application for their child or children to 
attend schools formerly predominantly attended by mem­
bers of the opposite race they can do so.

Now, I understand the objections to applications being 
made to the office of the Superintendent of Education, but 
I understand the reason for it during this period of transi­
tion. I don’t envision that the plan, except during this pe-

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riod of transition, this year and possibly next year, will 
authorize that. But I think to require both parties to come 
is an onus and undue burden, so the plan should just re­
quire one of the parents to make the application.

Mr. Gray: Excuse me, your honor; is that one to physi­
cally pick it up and bring it back?



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The Court: Yes; yes; yes, but not both. And the ap­
plication can be made only by one parent, and not by both; 
if you run into any trouble like you say you had in one 
instance last year, I will resolve it for you.

The order should direct the defendants to report to this 
Court on or before August 10, 1965, as to the action taken 
on each application for transfer and assignment. The 
defendants should be ordered to file their plan for com­
pletion of the desegregated system, including abolition of 
the dual school or biracial school system, which of course 
still exists. I am not naive enough to believe that desegre­
gation of certain grades by transfer, such as we are doing 
here, is full compliance with what the law eventually en­
visions and requires, but I recognize that it is a transition 
period, and I think that this is reasonable for the facts 
in this case and the circumstances existing in this particu­
lar school district at this time. So the Board should file 
with the Court its plan for completion of the desegregation 
of the dual school and biracial school system on or before 
January 14 of 1966.

The amicus, United States, should prepare this order 
and present it to me, together with counsel for the plain­
tiffs and counsel for the defendants, not later than May 17. 
Present it to those attorneys prior to the time, and consult 
with them concerning the preparation of it, particularly 
the notices, the dates that they are to be given. That means 
that the letter notice, then, for the thirty-day period the 
Board will be taking applications for transfers should be 
sent out not later than June 10; that the newspaper notices

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should be made on or about June 20 and on or about 
June 27; that the period for taking applications on the 
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nine, ten, eleven, twelve, one, and two should be from 
June 21 through July 20; the report to the Court for the 
Board on August 10; the complete plan for desegregation 
filed on or before January 14, 1966; this order presented 
on or before May 17 of this year.

Let me say this; that I recognize the problems that 
exist in this particular school district, and I think the plain­
tiffs recognize them, and both parties in this law suit have, 
up to this point, demonstrated to me an awareness of their 
responsibilities, not only to their clients, but to the school 
system; and I want to congratulate and compliment both 
the plaintiffs and particularly the School Board, Mont­
gomery County School Board, for its efforts as demon­
strated last fall in complying with the law as that law 
was reflected in the order of this Court. If you have any 
questions, gentlemen, I will be available.

Mr. Phelps: Judge, could I ask one question at this 
time? This is something that we could start work on.

The Court: All right.
Mr. Phelps: Would the court be receptive to the letter 

being sent to the parents by the report cards?
The Court: Any way you get it to them; I want Mr. 

Sutin to help in the preparation of that letter, to make sure 
that it explains exactly what their rights are in nonlegal- 
istic terms.

Mr. Phelps: All right, sir.
Mr. Robison: That would be May 27, I believe.
Mr. Walter McKee: 27th or 28th.
The Court: You can accelerate the schedule if you wish, 

or if it is convenient, such as getting it to them a little 
later, to send the report cards, we will make it convenient, 
we will change the dates; sure.



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Mr. Robison: Save the postage and the other things.
The Court: Absolutely; absolutely. You are going to

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have a problem, now, as to how to advise your first graders, 
those coming in the first grade; I take it you have some 
method of knowing who they are.

Mr. Robison: No, sir.
Mr. Walter McKee: No, sir.
The Court: Well, you will have to do that, then, strictly 

by publication—
Mr. Robison: We have no way of knowing.
The Court: —unless you know of some way to know 

who they are. Any other thing you think you might need 
to raise at this time?

Mr. Gray: Your honor, it is not on the plan, itself; it 
is on the reproduction of one of the Exhibits that we are 
supposed to reproduce. I am wondering whether or not— 
I am going to have to get them Xeroxed, and I need per­
mission from the Court to be able to take them to get them 
Xeroxed for that purpose.

The Court: Well, I have no objection to you withdraw­
ing them; if counsel wants to go with you, give them notice 
as to when you are going to take them so that they can 
take them with you, and you can sign them out from the 
Clerk. It may be, in view of this action, you will want to 
withdraw them and let them stay in custody of Mr. McKee; 
I don’t know, that is up to you.

Mr. Gray: Well, your honor, what I think I would like 
to do at this time is to withdraw them, with the under­
standing that if we need them later, then we could have 
copies.

The Court: Why don’t we do it that way?



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Mr. Robison: That will be agreeable with us.
The Court: Then by agreement, let the Clerk return 

them to Mr. McKee, with the understanding that if the 
plaintiffs want them back—

Mr. Gray: Yes, sir.
The Court: — then you will make application directly 

to the laAvyers, and they will get them to you for copying.
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Mr. Gray: Thank you.
The Court: All right. All right, gentlemen. Recess court 

until further ordered.

C ou rt R e p o r t e r ’s C ertifica te  (o m itte d  in  p r in t in g )



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Memorandum Transcript— Hearing of May 25 , 1967

In the

DISTRICT COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

F ob th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

(Hearing in above-styled case having been had at Mont­
gomery, Alabama, May 25, 1967, before Hon. Frank M. 
Johnson, Jr., Judge, the following comments were made 
by the Court at the conclusion of the hearing:)

The Court: All right, gentlemen; I will take this matter, 
then, under consideration. And, since there is very little 
controversy between you on it, you can expect an order 
to be entered substantially like that proposed; there will 
be a few changes.

I would like to say this to you here in the presence of 
the plaintiffs’ and the Government lawyers; that I am im­
pressed that the Montgomery County Superintendent of 
Education and members of the Montgomery County School 
Board of Education now evidence and have in the past 
evidenced a desire and intent to operate a school system 
here in Montgomery County as professional educators and 
not as politicians. This present attitude is demonstrated

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here at this time; this past conduct on the part of these 
officials has, without any doubt, inured to the benefit of 
the students, regardless of their race, in Montgomery 
County that seek quality education. And I have observed 
and I have been impressed that these officials have ac-



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complished this largely through— or this has been accom­
plished largely through their efforts and without any seri­
ous discord or disruption as far as any school is concerned. 
This, when it is compared with some other similar opera­
tions, is a considerable feat, for which this community, 
in my judgment, owes these school officials their appre­
ciation. It evidences a pattern of professional conduct that 
other systems could, for the benefit of their students, 
emulate.

I will enter a decree in this case.
Mr. Vaughan H. Robison: Thank you.

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Transcript of Hearing— September 5, 1967

I n  the

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

Before Hon. Frank M. Johnson, Jr., Judge, at Montgomery, 
Alabama, September 5,1967.

A p p e a r a n c e s :

For the Plaintiffs:

Gray & Seay (Fred D. Gray).

For the Defendants:

Hill, Robison, Belser & Phelps 
(Vaughan H. Robison and 
Joseph D. Phelps).

For the United States:

Reuben Ortenberg and 
Alexander Ross.

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(The above case coming on for hearing at Montgomery, 

Alabama, September 5, 1967, before Hon. Frank M. John­
son, Jr., Judge, the following proceedings were had:)

The Court: Let’s get to this next hearing, this Arlam 
Carr and Montgomery County; do you have any evidence 
in that case to take this morning? Mr. Gray isn’t here, and 
it isn’t set until eleven this morning.



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Mr. Robison: That’s right, sir; and I understand Mr. 
Reuben Ortenberg, from the Department of Justice, is in 
that case; having filed a motion, we would like a con­
ference with your honor, if the court please, prior to the 
eleven o’clock hearing, if agreeable with all counsel and the 
Department of Justice.

The Court: All right. Well, why don’t we set that con­
ference for ten thirty this morning.

Mr. Robison: Fine.
The Court: You get in touch with Mr. Ortenberg, and 

you can get in touch with Mr. Gray, if he represents the 
—if he is handling the case for the plaintiffs.

Mr. Solomon S. Seay, Jr.: All right, sir.
The Court: All right; I will just keep these, then, for 

the time being. We will recess until further order.

(At which time a recess was had, and at 11:06 a.m., the 
case was called and the following proceedings were had:)

The Court: All right; Arlam Carr and others against 
Montgomery County Board and others, number 2072-N,

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here on the motion filed for further relief by the United 
States and by the plaintiffs. Ready to proceed?

Mr. Ortenberg: Ready, your honor.
Mr. Robison: If the court please, we likewise have a 

motion, as your honor knows, before the court asking that 
the relief be denied, and as one of the grounds, setting 
forth it is not timely filed. The plaintiffs in this case didn’t 
even join with the United States of America until the 
29th day of August, and the amicus curiae filed it on the 
17th day of August, some two months after our report 
was filed and approximately two weeks before school 
opened. As a matter of fact, today we are having faculty



551

and principal meetings, and we have asked that the motion 
be dismissed on that ground.

The Court: Well, if that is to be interpreted as a motion 
to dismiss without any hearing, I will deny it; but I will 
take in consideration the timing and—when and if I reach 
the substance of the matter.

Mr. Eobison: All right, sir.
The Court: Ask your witnesses to come around.
Mr. Ortenberg: Mr. Walter McKee.
The Clerk: Do you have other witnesses?
Mr. Ortenberg: Yes.
The Court: All your witnesses that are going to testify 

should be sworn at this time.
Mr. Ortenberg: All persons—Mr. Smith and Mr. Sey-

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more, Mr. Reed. Mr. Garrett.
The Clerk: All witnesses, please raise your right hand. 

You and each of you do solemnly swear that the testimony 
you give in this cause to be the truth, the whole truth, and 
nothing but the truth, so help you, God.

The Court: All right; you want the rule invoked?
Mr. Ortenberg: Yes, your honor.
The Court: All right.
Marshal: This way, please.
Court Crier: Have to use this other room, that is— 

Grand Jury is in there.
Marshal: Go around on that side.
Mr. Robison: You want Mr. Garrett under the rule, Mr. 

Ortenberg? He is Assistant-Associate Superintendent.
Mr. Ortenberg: I guess it won’t be necessary.
Mr. Robison: Thank you, sir.



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W alter M cK ee, a defendant, called as witness by the 
United States, having been duly sworn, testified as follows:

Direct Examination by Mr. Ortenberg:

Q. Would you state your name, address, and occupation, 
please, sir? A. Walter McKee, Superintendent of Schools, 
Montgomery, Alabama.

Q. Mr. McKee, were you served with a subpoena re­
quiring you to bring certain documents to—this morning?

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A. I was.

Q. Do you have those documents with you? A. Yes, sir. 
Q. May I have them, please? A. I have—which ones 

do you want, now, first?

The Court: Well, I directed those be furnished 
sometime ago.

Mr. Kobison: We have, your honor.
The Court: Have you already furnished them?
Mr. Ortenberg: Yes, sir.
The Court: Have you already looked at them? 
Mr. Ortenberg: Yes, sir.
The Court: Let’s get them out here on the table 

then.

A. There is the letters.
Q. I will just take all of them. A. This is—

The Court: Have they been marked for iden­
tification, Mr. Clerk?

The Clerk: No, sir.
Mr. Ortenberg: Your honor, we were in confer­

ence until just before the hearing started. Would



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you mark these Government Exhibit 1 for iden­
tification, please?

The Clerk: All of them as one?
Mr. Ortenberg: Yes.
The Clerk: Government Exhibit number 1 for

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identification.

The Court: What do they purport to be?
Mr. Ortenberg: Correspondence between the Su­

perintendent or—and Associate Superintendent of 
Schools and teachers assigned to schools of the— 

The Court: Do you have any objection to it?
Mr. Robison: No, sir.
The Court: It will be admitted in evidence, and 

I will consider it, in connection with your motion 
and your opposition to it.

Q. Mr. McKee—

The Court: Let me see them.

Q. —do you recall how many—how many teachers were 
—were tentatively assigned for the 1966-67 school year 
to teach in schools in which their race is in the minority? 
A. ’67-68 o r ’6—

Q. No, sir; ’66-67? A. My recollection was that there 
were five each way.

Q. Pardon me, sir? A. My recollection was it was 
four each way—

Q. Four each way? A. —in ’66-67.
Q. And how many are tentatively assigned as regular 

classroom teachers, fulltime, for the 1967-68 school year? 
A. There were five employed each way, although in case

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of some of them, they have had to have been re-employed,



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because some have resigned since they were accepted, but 
at the present time, there are five each way.

Q. And of the— of the total of ten who were assigned 
across racial lines, how many of those had been among 
the group that was—that were assigned for the 1966-67 
school year? A. Well, originally, there were five; there 
were four of the colored teachers and one of the white 
teachers; but one of the white teachers has subsequently 
resigned.

Q. So that at this present time— A. As of the present 
time, there are four colored teachers that were in the 
group last year.

Q. So that for the 1967-68 school year, these ten reg­
ular classroom teachers include the four of last year plus 
six additional teachers that—that you have— A. I be­
lieve all six of those are new teachers.

Q. Now, of the—of the— A. Of course, we have the 
three speech teachers that we talked about in addition.

Q. Yes, sir; that would be regular classroom teachers 
that I am talking about. Now, of the ten teachers who are 
assigned across racial lines for the 1967-68 school year, 
and who were reported as such on June—in the June 15 
report to this court, have any of those resigned? A. Two 
or three of the— of the white teachers have, but they have

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been replaced.

Q. Were they replaced by other white teachers? A. 
Yes.

Q. The same number that had been—that had resigned? 
A. That’s right; that’s right.

Q. Who was it that decided, Air. AlcKee, that there 
should be five teachers crossing over each way? A. Well,



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we studied the situation very carefully after last year, 
and in discussion with other school systems, similar size 
and character to ours, and we thought that by and large 
the best way to start this thing would be in the senior 
high schools, and we made that attempt. We had hoped 
to expand it. For instance, we have a vacancy we have 
had for three or four weeks at Booker Washington, and 
we have offered it to at least a half a dozen or more people, 
and some of them will take— they say, “ We will take it,” 
then get back and write a letter or call back the next 
day, they have talked with their husband, and they won’t 
take it; and we have held that open hoping we could ex­
pand it some more. But that is the way we are at the 
present.

Q. How did you decide on the number, ten? A. Num­
ber of—I didn’t know that there was any magic about the 
number of ten; we were going to desegregate some facul­
ties in the senior high school; in fact, we first thought 
about four; then it worked out where we could get five. 
I f we could get six or seven—but we have had that terrific 
problem of getting the white teachers to accept the posi-

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tion in the colored schools.
Q. Why is it that it was decided that the faculties, the 

desegregation for this year, should only be in high schools? 
A. We felt it would work better there; we have tried to 
work this segregation problem without any hullabaloo as 
they have had in many places; we have tried to honestly 
work it smoothly. We felt that there would be less ob­
jection in the senior high schools, because one teacher 
would not have the pupils as much of the day as they 
would in the lower grades. And we felt that if we could 
get that accepted—you may not realize it, but even those



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five teachers, there will be some seven hundred and fifty 
white children that will be taught by colored teachers, 
plus there will be seven hundred fifty children, just with 
those ten teachers, and we have got the problem; all of 
those parents, many of these parents say, “Well, it is all 
right, just so my child is not in that room.” And we are 
going to get the calls and everything that—working to 
try to get that child out of their room. Plus we have had 
all this other atmosphere that you are familiar with, that 
has given some people some hopes.

Q. How many high schools do you have in the Mont­
gomery County school system? A. Well, we have four 
high schools here in the city.

The Court: All that evidence is before the court, 
Mr. Ortenberg; this case has been going on a long­
time. We have taken testimony in it. I know the 
name of nearly every school in the system.

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Mr. Ortenberg: Yes, your honor.

Q. Mr. McKee, why was it decided that the faculty de­
segregation would take place in only four of the high 
schools in the system? A. Because we felt that if we 
could protect—if— everything better in the city, better than 
we could in the county. The county is pretty sparsely 
settled. There is no police force; there is only a few Deputy 
Sheriffs to cover the whole county; and we have already 
gone into this with all branches of the law enforcement. 
We are going to have special protection in every one of 
these situations where we have had teachers. Just like 
when we started at Lanier with three colored pupils, those 
pupils were watched every minute of the day by some­



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body. We are going to have to do the same thing in a 
much greater degree with these teachers; we are going 
to have to assign our supervisors to spend a large part 
of their time, because it is going to—any little instance 
that comes up in that classroom is going to be a race 
issue, and we are going to have to avoid that, and we 
are going to try to do it and do it right.

Q. Are you familiar, Mr. McKee, with the—with the 
order of this court of June 1—  A. I am very—

Q. —providing for faculty— A. I am very familiar with 
it. I know it says that it is our duty to— to integrate the 
faculties, and I also further know that under the law, we

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can transfer teachers by Board action, but we know by 
experience that malicious transferring of people, when 
race is not even a problem, will always create a bad situa­
tion.

Q. Are—are you familiar with the fact that the order 
of this court does not limit the faculty desegregation to 
high school? A. I certainly am, but we were hoping that 
by doing it this way and getting it into peaceful operation, 
that next year would be a good bit easier; just like this 
fall, there will probably be a hundred Negro kids at 
Lanier, and I doubt if there will be a ripple because of it; 
but three years ago, if a hundred had appeared there, you 
would have—the private school system would have opened 
up here overnight.

Q. Are you familiar with the number of teachers who 
were displaced as a result of the closing of fourteen schools 
in the county this year? A. I don’t know, but there wasn’t 
any of ours displaced; they are all hired.



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Q. Excuse me; I don’t mean displaced from the system, 
but displaced from the schools that were closed? A. They 
are all hired in the system for next year.

Q. And were—what was the race of those teachers? 
A. All of them were colored.

Q. Are you familiar with how many there are? A. I 
would say there was forty odd—there was fourteen schools, 
and they represented from two to three teachers each.

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Q. Which schools are they assigned to? A. Various 

schools in the system.
Q. Were they all assigned to Negro schools? A. They 

were all assigned to colored schools, because these were 
all elementary teachers, and we wanted to make our start 
a successful start and make it in high school.

Q. How many—how many teachers are starting in the 
Montgomery school system in the 1967-68 school year for 
the first time? A. New to the system, I would estimate 
around a hundred.

Q. And which school levels are these teachers involved 
in? A. Well, there are some of all levels.

Q. Elementary, junior high school, and high school? A. 
Y es; uh, huh.

Q. And have any of the—these approximately one hun­
dred new teachers been—been assigned across racial lines? 
A. All—all teachers that have been interviewed, even—that 
is on our application—have been asked if they would— 
I mean it is on their application and has been discussed— 
in most instances even when they went to the colleges to 
interview teachers in the spring, our people asked them if 
they would; many of them said they wouldn’t ; a few of them 
said they would. And those in the high schools, except the 
few that have stuck, that said they would, after we have



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offered them the job, they—in a day or so, they came hack 
and said their husband wouldn’t let them or the neighbors 
were going to criticize them or so and so, and they just 
resigned.

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Q. Is there a—presently a school construction being con­
ducted at the Carver School! A. Yes.

Q. Does that include any classrooms? A. Yes.
Q. How many classrooms? A. Oh, it’s got—four class­

rooms are being added to the elementary school, and there 
are—there is an auditorium and an R.O.T.C. rifle range and 
a band room and a couple of music rooms.

Q. And will the teachers who will fill those four new 
classrooms all be Negroes? A. I am not sure whether the 
—I am sure some of those white teachers that are assigned 
there, probably the R.O.T.C., maybe one other, whatever 
departments—I don’t remember what departments they are 
in off hand.

Q. Will those classrooms be ready for this school year? 
A. I think the four elementary ones will; the others won’t 
be ready until a couple of months, I mean maybe longer 
than that, one of them.

Q. Will the four elementary—  A. Yes; we hope to get 
into those.

Q. —classrooms! A. We hope to get into those, but 
none—but none of the rural children are there unless they 
chose to go there, and I don’t think any of them chose 
there.

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Q. You say you hope—you hope to get into those; will 
they be ready on Wednesday when school starts? A. 
They will be ready, but I don’t—those that are being built



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in connection with the auditorium, it will be a month or so 
before they are ready.

Q. Yes, sir; but the classrooms— A. The four elemen­
tary school rooms; yes, sir.

Q. —will they be ready on Wednesday when school 
starts? A. Well, they will be ready on Thursday.

Q. Is there any other school construction going on? I 
believe there is a new high school being constructed; is that 
correct? A. Yes, sir.

Q. When will that high school be complete? A. We hope 
to open it a year from now.

Q. A  year from now? A. Uh, huh.
Q. Have you made any plans about staffing that school 

yet? A. No; except we have selected the principal is all.
Q. When do you anticipate making plans for staffing that 

school? A. Oh, after Christmas, sometime in early spring, 
usually, when we—.

Q. Now, have you had any—any correspondence from 
—from universities and teacher placement organizations 
concerning faculty desegregation? A. I don’t recall any 
except from the Alabama Teachers’ Association; Mr. Reed, 
who is one of the witnesses you summoned here, I think

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sent out a letter to all Superintendents that they would he 
glad to help find any Negro teachers that anybody needed 
that would go to white—

Q. Did you respond to that letter? A. No; I don’t even 
think it called for a response; it was just mimeographed. 
I have mine; it was a general letter to all— .

Q. Did you seek the assistance that he offered? A. We 
—we could find plenty of Negro teachers to go to white 
schools; that is not a problem -with us; I say we can find 
colored teachers to go to white schools.



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Q. Have yon received any other such contacts from— 
from other organizations that might be able to provide 
white teachers? A. Not that I recall.

Q. Have you had occasion in the past, Mr. McKee, to hire 
teachers after the beginning of the school year? A. Oh, 
yes; you will have vacancies during the school year.

Q. How much—how much time can elapse after the school 
year— or has elapsed after—after the school year has 
begun when you have hired a teacher? A. Well, it de­
pends on conditions; you will have a death or a teacher gets 
pregnant or husband moves out of town. It happens through 
the year; it varies. Either we fill it or either use one of 
the teachers on the substitute list; a lot of times we just 
use a substitute teacher, if it is too close to the end of 
the year, to fill out the year.

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Q. So you have—you have filled the teacher positions as 

late as two weeks or two months after school has begun? 
A. Oh, yes; yes, we will hire teachers.

Mr. Ortenberg: No more questions of this witness.
The Court: Any questions?
Mr. Robison: Yes, s ir ; if the court please.
Mr. Gray: Excuse me.
Mr. Robison: Yes, sir.
The Court: Just a minute; go ahead, Mr. Gray. 

By Mr. Gray:

Q. Mr. McKee, have you employed any teachers since 
June 15, the day of this report? A. You mean—yes; we 
have employed some teachers since June 15.

Q. Approximately how many teachers have been em­
ployed since June 15? A. Oh, I would say thirty, thirty-



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five; of course, we have had some of those white teachers 
that resigned in the colored schools, we have had to re- 
employ—I mean employ other people for those places.

Q. Approximately how many Negroes and how many 
white are those? A. I don’t have the exact figures; there 
will be more—more white than there are Negroes.

Q. Were any of the white teachers employed since the 
15th assigned to Negro schools? A. Yes; we have had to 
—had several.

Q. Were those replacements for the five, in addition to
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the five? A. Yes; they happened to wind up even. We 
were behind the court report, and we caught back up. We 
thought we were going to get ahead; then this last person 
resigned the other day came to us or came in and said 
her husband wouldn’t let her take it, and she had been 
teaching in Detroit before this, but her husband wouldn’t 
let her take it.

Q. So these were replacements; is that right? A. 
Well—

Q. White ones that were assigned? A. Yes; they were 
replacements for a vacancy.

Q. And not any in addition to the number. A. We were 
trying to get ahead, but we just kind of lost.

Q. Can you tell us, sir, how many white teachers have 
been assigned, period, to formerly all-Negro schools, ap­
proximately how many white teachers? A. I would say— 
not assigned, we have employed them to go there—prob­
ably twelve or thirteen, maybe fourteen for those—

Q. And all but the five have refused to go? A. They 
have either accepted it and then later wrote a letter of 
resignation, or they said, “ I want to talk about it,” and



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then come back and—the next day or two and sav they 
wouldn’t take it.

Q. Now, how many Negro teachers have been assigned 
to formerly all-white schools? A. We have hired five 
Negroes to teach in former white schools.

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Q. And all five of those have agreed to go? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Is there any reason, Mr. McKee, why more Negro 

teachers can’t be assigned to predominantly white schools? 
A. They could be found, but I think if we want to keep— 
our teachers now are about in proportion to our pupils, 
about fifty-nine forty-one, and the teachers and pupils 
both, and I think that if you want to carry this thing out 
in an orderly fashion through the years, you would want 
to keep them that; you wouldn’t want to have them all 
Negro or all white.

Q. So the reason you don’t have more Negro teachers, 
even though they are available, is because you can’t get 
more white teachers? A. We haven’t been able to; we 
have been trying to get some more white teachers to go 
in the situation.

Q. Now, let me ask you this, sir; is it your testimony 
that contact has been made of every white teacher in the 
senior high school department, and no white teacher, other 
than those that have already been assigned, will accept 
employment in Negro schools? A. In March of this year, 
our principals spent a whole meeting on the court order. 
They went back to their faculties to work with them to 
get anybody that would be willing to accept an assign­
ment across lines. I don’t think any came into the office; 
maybe one colored teacher. Then on April—or something, 
13th, some date—I wrote a letter in which I asked each 
principal to read at their faculty meeting that section of



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the court order that pertained to faculty desegregation,
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which was the one we were operating under in April, 
which is not a great deal different from the one we have 
now; and we did not get any response from that, not even 
from the Negroes. But we did, in talking with the Negroes 
that accepted those assignments, and the whites that ac­
cepted those assignments last year, when the Judge re­
lieved us of doing that until this year, they all had said 
then that they would accept them a year from now; well, 
in the case of the white teachers, they had—most of them 
had gone, and with the exception of one, I believe, that 
we offered her the position; she accepted it, and later 
wrote a letter that she was leaving town.

Q. So then do I understand, sir, from your testimony 
that there are no white teachers now employed in the sys­
tem who would accept employment in Negro schools? A. 
They did not—they did not respond to our request.

Q. No individual contact has been made? A. Yes; we 
have contact—we contacted two this week, or last week, 
or maybe week before last, about this science vacancy we 
have at Booker Washington; both of them, after they went 
home and came back the next day and declined.

Q. Now, these contacts you are referring to, either you 
or Mr. Garrett or some other person in-—under your super­
vision made the contact? A. Well, I happened to be in

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with the group that—that was several of us that talked to 
these people.

Q. Now, that is with respect to those two; but— A. 
That’s right.

Q. —but individual contact has not been made with the 
other hundred—  A. No.



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Q. —white teachers— A. N o; no.
Q. —to see whether they would accept it? A. No, sir. 

They have been notified and have had the word, and, of 
course, the twelve or thirteen hundred people, that is a 
pretty big job of individual contact.

Cross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Mr. McKee, was contact made with them through 
the principals of the schools? A. Oh, yes; with—both at 
the March principals’ meeting and again at the April, when 
the letter addressed to the principals to take it up at their 
Monday afternoon faculty meeting with them.

Q. Do you have a copy of that letter with you, Mr. 
McKee? A. I have if they didn’t get it with that other. 
There it is (presented).

Mr. Robison (to Mr. G ray): That is the one we 
showed you back there. Please mark that for iden­
tification.

The Clerk: Defendants’ Exhibit number 1 for 
identification.

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Mr. Robison: Defendants’ Exhibit. We would like 
to offer that in evidence, if the court please.

The Court: It will be admitted.

Q. In addition to that, was a bulletin sent out to the 
teachers and principals sometime in March? A. A—a dis­
cussion of—at the March principals’ meeting, and then 
when we got no response from that, when each principal 
was to read that section of the court order at their next 
faculty meeting and urge teachers to—that would be willing 
to accept transfer to come in, then we followed it up with 
this letter, which was in April.



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Q. Mr. McKee, do you and the Board of Education 
realize that there is an affirmative duty on you, under this 
court order, to desegregate substantially the staff of the 
Montgomery County system? A. We certainly do realize 
it.

Q. Is that a factor in making assignments today with 
respect to teachers? A. Yes, because that—we have made 
some and with that in mind.

Q. Mr. McKee, is the desegregation of faculty a serious 
educational problem, based on your experience? A. I think 
it is going to be the most serious problem of the whole 
problem in integration, because our people are going to, 
in my opinion, rebel in large numbers; they are going to 
cause various kinds of problems; and we can’t afford to

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get into it unless we can adequately protect—because you 
have one incident one year, it will take you two or three 
years to live it down; and I think that if we had had very 
many instances in our student problems, then we would 
have had serious problems. Now, in three short years, we 
have been able to take a rather small number of Negroes 
at Lanier High School, and last year we had some seventy 
odd, and we are expecting around a hundred this year.

Q. Did I understand your testimony to be that the ten 
teachers which you have now in desegregated schools 
would teach approximately fifteen hundred students of the 
opposite race? A. That is correct. Because most teachers 
in high school will teach from a hundred and fifty to a 
hundred and sixty to seventy-five pupils during the day.

Q. Mr. McKee, are you still making efforts to further 
desegregate the faculty of this school system? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Is there a vacancy at Booker Washington now for a 
teacher? A. There is a vacancy now and has been there 
for some three or four weeks, in which we have—



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Q. Could you have filled that vacancy with a colored 
teacher? A. Oh, yes; we could have filled it with a col­
ored.

Q. Have you filled that vacancy? A. No, sir.
Q. What efforts, if any, have you made to fill it with a 

teacher of the opposite race? A. We have— our person-
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nel department has talked to everybody that we had an 
application for that was eligible. Wre had one person that 
had the proper college training, and she accepted it; but 
we found that she would have to have gotten an emergency 
certificate because of some little course that she didn’t 
have in that state that Alabama requires, and, of course, 
if you don’t have the exact little courses, you can’t get an 
Alabama teacher’s certificate. So we had to deny that to 
her because she didn’t—did not have a valid Alabama 
certificate, although she has a—is a college graduate and 
met the requirements in many—in some other states; I 
don t know how many, but at least she was teaching in 
another state.

Q. Mr. McKee, in addition to the ten high school faculty 
desegregated teaching staffs, do you have other teachers 
that will be teaching of the opposite race? A. We have 
some speech teachers that will go into every elementary 
school, and a few, in a few extreme cases, that will go to 
high schools where children that have speech defects and 
work with six or eight, and they will work about six weeks, 
with part of the day in this school and go to another 
school; they will work three or four schools a day.

Q. Mr. McKee, you say there are three speech teachers, 
and are they—and they will be working with the elemen­
tary grades; is that correct? A. Yes, sir.



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Q. Do you have a vacancy for a fourth speech teacher? 
A. Yes; we could use a fourth one, but—

Q. Do you have a fourth speech teacher? A. We had a 
fourth—or rather last year we had three, but we plan 
to use four this year. Two of them were white, and one 
was colored. The colored teacher has had to resign be­
cause of pregnancy, but we hope she will be where she 
can come back and take up, because she will come in in 
the middle of the year, and it will not disturb anything. 
And we plan for these to work in all schools.

Q. Is it anticipated that this colored speech teacher will 
be placed in employment of the school system when she 
comes off this maternity leave? A. If she wants to.

Q. If she wants to be replaced; and they travel, as I 
understand it, from one school to another? A. One school 
to the other.

Q. As needed? A. As needed.
Q. Is that correct? A. By the people with speech de­

fects.
Q. Mr. McKee, have you made any other plans as far 

as desegregation of faculty with your in-service teaching 
program? A. Yes, sir; in our in-service teaching pro­
gram, we have had for a number of years demonstrations,

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that is, where experienced teachers, say in the third grade, 
or English or math or whatever the field might be, teach 
a what we call a demonstration lesson; and some fifteen 
or twenty teachers will come in to study and evaluate 
that lesson. And we plan to have those with white and 
colored teachers. Last year we had some in the colored 
schools where the white teachers went. This year we plan 
to have some in the white schools for the colored teachers.



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And also, all of our faculty meetings and systemwide 
meetings and small group meetings have been completely 
desegregated, including our committees.

Q. Do you have certain supervisory personnel, Mr. Mc­
Kee, in the system? A. Yes, sir; we have—

Q. How will they be utilized? A. We plan to utilize 
them as feasible on a desegregated basis.

Q. Where the staff has been desegregated, will you have 
supervisory personnel in those rooms? A. We will have 
to in those situations; we are going to have to keep our 
supervisors close to that situation for, in my opinion, 
several months, because we are going to have a storm of 
requests to transfer their child out of that particular room. 
Plus the fact there are going to be some incidents; there 
are going to be some boys and girls in that room that are 
going to want to provoke an incident, and we are going to 
have to watch them with everything we have. Not only 
us; we are going to have to have the Police Department

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and the Sheriff’s Department.

Q. Mr. McKee, after you submitted your report on 
June 15 to this court, and prior to the opening of school, 
which is Wednesday, I believe, tomorrow, day after to­
morrow, what plans, if any, did you make in order to 
effect this desegregation of the faculty? A. Well, we had 
meetings with all principals involved; we had the Chief 
of Police, along with several of his assistants; the Sheriff, 
along with his assistants; the Chairman of the Board of 
Education; many of our supervisors; our attorneys—had 
all met together to go over plans and procedures for the 
handling of this situation.

Q. In connection with that, also, have you not gone into 
a community relations program with respect to various 
organizations— A. Oh, yes; we have—



Q. — in spite of the present situation with regard to 
teacher shortage? A. We have carried this into other 
organizations and have tried to prepare the way for them. 
I might say that in addition to that, that our substitute 
list which will go out to all principals tomorrow is just 
an alphabetical list of teachers, and it—that are available, 
and tells what grades they are available in.

Q. Mr. McKee, have room assignments been made and 
equipment assignments been made in the school system? 
A. Oh, yes; schedules have been made, and the teachers—

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many of them have been by there beforehand, but out of 
town teachers may be there today for the first time, but 
they are getting those this morning at the various schools; 
they will be there all day.

Q. At the schools right today are principals and facul­
ties having meetings? A. All principals and teachers are 
to be in their schools today from eight thirty until three 
meeting with the assignments and getting their rooms 
and equipment and all ready.

Q. Mr. McKee, you stated in reply to a question by the 
Government and Mr. Gray that approximately a hundred 
new teachers had gone into the system; that is about ten 
per cent of the entire student—I mean entire faculty em­
ployment of this county, is it not? A. It is not quite ten 
per cent.

Q. Not quite ten? A. Our turnover would probably run 
ten per cent or less.

Q. Based on your knowledge and experience in other 
systems, is ten per cent a very small turnover in a system? 
A. From what I read in the literature, it is a very small 
turnover.

Q. Do you happen to know what the national average



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is? A. No, I don’t; I have read somewhere— it seems like 
it was somewhere between fifteen or twenty per cent, but 
I—

Q. Now, you were asked, Mr. McKee, with respect to 
those faculty personnel that were displaced as a result of

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the closing of certain schools under order of this court; 
you said they had been reassigned in the system; is that 
correct? A. They have been placed; every one of them.

Q. Were they assigned to elementary schools; were 
they all elementary teachers? A. They were all assigned 
to elementary; one of them we made a principal.

Q. One you made a principal? A. Uh, huh. But he is 
principal of an elementary school.

Q. Principal of an elementary school.

Mr. Eohison: I believe that’s all.
The Court: Anything further?
Mr. Ortenberg: Yes, sir; your honor.

Redirect Examination by Mr. Ortenberg:

Q. Mr. McKee, going back now to the teachers; of the— 
of the ten reported on June 15 who resigned, do you re­
call when it was that they—that they resigned? A. Well, 
it would be at different times; some of them may have 
resigned before the 15th; some resigned after the 15th.

Q. When were— A. Some of them got to a stage that 
they—they verbally accepted the job, as—as I mentioned, 
and then went home and came back the next day and said— 
they said they wanted to talk it over, and they came back 
the next day and said they wouldn’t take it. Of course,

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there was no written thing on that.



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Q. When were they replaced? A. Well, at various 
times; those minutes that I filed there show, but it has 
been, some of them, in the last month, I think, or maybe 
less than that that we have just replaced one of them.

Q. Have the resignations been throughout the summer? 
A. Yes; at various times.

Q. How many—how many of them actually resigned; 
how many of the ten reported on June 15 resigned? A. 
Well, I think it was only about two positions that people 
resigned; but there were several different people hired 
for those two positions. I think three of them have stuck 
out all the way through; but if one would resign, we would 
hire, maybe, somebody else, and then they would resign.

Q. How soon after one—  A. Just as soon as we could 
find somebody that agreed to accept it that was capable.

Q. How long did that usually take? A. We may have 
an application on file; we try to keep applications on file 
for all kinds of places; and, of course, at this time of the 
year, they can’t—lots of them that might have taken it 
can’t get released from another place. You see, in—in 
Alabama a teacher, up forty-five days before school starts, 
she can resign anywhere she wants to, even—without even 
consulting where she is working, if she wants to ; but then

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if a principal or a Superintendent objects after that forty- 
five days, he has the right to go to the State Superin­
tendent to cancel her certificate if she is going to teach 
in Alabama. So the—you have a lot of applicants that 
have accepted jobs and at this time can’t get released; 
they could get released the 1st of July.

Q. Now, Mr. McKee, did I understand you to say that 
because you have no difficulty in finding Negro teachers, 
that once you achieved the level, the number of Negro



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teachers that you had desired, that you no longer at­
tempted to find additional Negro teachers to teach in white 
schools? A. We wanted to keep it fairly well in balance, 
and we felt that that was in the spirit of the court order.

Q. So once you got five, you didn’t try to get any more? 
A. We tried to get this—we still have a vacancy now that 
we are trying to fill at Booker Washington; we hope some­
body—we may be able to get that filled today.

Mr. Ortenberg: All right; thank you.
Mr. Gray: Like to ask just one question.

By Mr. Gray:

Q. With respect to your new teachers, did you inform 
the new teachers that, as a condition of their employment, 
they may be assigned to either Negro school or white 
school? A. Yes.

Q. And integrated school? A. Yes, and it is also on 
the application; but what they will do is they will sign

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and file the application, then when you offer them a job 
in that, then they will go home and talk about it and send 
in their resignation.

Q. But they did understand that they could be assigned 
in schools—  A. Yes; it is typed on the application or 
mimeographed on the application blank.

Mr. Gray: That’s all.
The Court: All right; call your next one.
Mr. Robison: If the court please, in reply, in 

rebuttal, he asked about teachers that had resigned; 
we have some letters here.

The Court: I think I understand that situation 
pretty well; go ahead if you want to.



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Recross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Just a minute, Walter; look at these and tell me 
what they are, Walter? Are those letters of teachers 
that you had assigned— A. Yes, sir.

Q. — to integrate the faculty and they then wrote you 
these resignations? A. Yes; most of these are those.

Mr. Eobison: All right, sir. Ask that these be 
marked for identification as Defendants’ Exhibit 2.

The Clerk: Defendants’ Exhibit number 2 for 
identification.

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The Court: Any objection?
Mr. Gray: No objection.
The Court: They will be admitted.
Mr. Ortenberg: No objection.
The Court: Any other witnesses?
Mr. Eobison: That’s all.
Mr. Ortenberg: No other witnesses, your honor; 

no other witnesses.
Mr. Gray: No, sir.
The Court: You have any other testimony?
Mr. Eobison: No, sir.
The Court: All right. You want to be heard in 

argument?
Mr. Ortenberg: Your honor, the Government’s 

position simply is that—that the school—
The Court: Let me ask you this; how much 

teacher desegregation do you have in Mobile?
Mr. Ortenberg: I—I think that—I don’t recall the 

exact number, but that is still pending before the 
court; I think it is a similar—



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The Court: Have you had a hearing on your mo­
tion to accelerate that down there?

Mr. Ortenberg: There was a full hearing, and 
the court entered an order in that case, which I be­
lieve did not concern faculty, and it is the matter 
of faculty—am I correct?

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Mr. Eoss: (Nodded to indicate affirmative reply)
The Court: Are you having to take that to the 

Court of Appeals?
Mr. Ortenberg: I believe so, your honor.
The Court: How about your Birmingham; how 

much faculty desegregation do you have up there?
Mr. Ortenberg: We have been unable to deter­

mine the exact number, in the report under the 
Jefferson County decree for those systems is not— 
is not due until September 20.

The Court: Uh, huh.
Mr. Ortenberg: However, we expect that if—that 

if—
The Court: That is after you had to take that 

one down to New Orleans, too?
Mr. Ortenberg: Yes, sir.
The Court: And that Bessemer and Fairfield the 

same?
Mr. Ortenberg: The same—in the same group of 

cases.
The Court: And this is one you haven’t had to 

take down there—
Mr. Ortenberg: That’s right.
The Court: — and you waited until a week or 

ten days before school to file your motion. I just 
don’t have much sympathy for you at all in this



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case. I will hear you in argument, though, if you 
want to make it in light of what my attitude is 
about it.

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Mr. Ortenberg: Your Honor, I ’d just like to say 

that the reason that the Government waited so long 
is that we expected that the school system would 
have been—would be making continuous desegregat­
ing assignments during the summer, and as soon as 
we learned that—that that was not the case—

The Court: You are dealing here with a school 
system that you haven’t had to take to your appel­
late courts a single time since you started. It is 
the only major school system in the State that you 
haven’t had to do it on; that they have done what 
they have done in good faith, and they have been 
ahead of most of your other systems in every field.

Mr. Ortenberg: Your honor, I think there are sys­
tems in Alabama which proportionately have done a 
lot better than Montgomery.

The Court: Other than Huntsville, where are 
they?

Mr. Ortenberg: Well, I—I don’t know them ex­
actly, sir, but I think that under the—

The Court: I know ninety-nine of them that 
haven’t.

Mr. Ortenberg: I—I just don’t—do you recall any 
other places?

(Mr. Ortenberg conferred with Mr. Ross)

Mr. Ortenberg: Mr. Ross tells me that, for ex­
ample, Chambers and Butler County— Counties



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haven’t yet, but are scheduled—they are—they are 
among the ninety-nine— are scheduled to have 
desegregating assignments which would exceed pro-

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portionately or in actual numbers what the Mont­
gomery County— County has done, and we think that 
it’s—it’s—it’s a relatively—relatively simple matter 
to—to make the assignment. The School Board 
recognizes that it can make the assignments, but 
it chose to limit the desegregating assignments to 
high schools, and it—it chose to desegregate only a 
certain—certain number. Now, granted, there have 
been some difficulties, but we think the School Board 
hasn’t tried hard enough, and it could try and could 
make additional assignments for this school year. 
Classes haven’t even begun; they won’t begin until 
Wednesday, and Mr. McKee testified that—that 
they have—they have hired—in the past hired and 
assigned teachers to classes after the school year 
has begun, and we think that it—that that can be 
done now; except instead of hiring from outside the 
system, they could be moving teachers around. We 
think they have had an opportunity, with a hundred 
new—new teachers—approximately a hundred new 
teachers for this school year and forty-three teach­
ers who were displaced, to desegregate considerable 
amount, but that they haven’t taken that opportu­
nity, and that the responsibility for doing it this 
year under this court’s order of June 1 still rests 
with the defendants, and we believe that they can 
do it now. Thank you, your honor.

The Court: Any argument?
Mr. Robison: I f the court please, I would like to 

briefly say that this school system realizes the af-



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firmative duty that your order places on them. 
They realize that they have the authority and have

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made assignments and transfers of teachers. There 
was considerable study that went into the desegre­
gation of faculty plan for this system, and we have 
patterned it, after a fashion, after the pupil de­
segregation plan. We have desegregated in high 
schools, and we have speech teachers in elementary 
schools. We realize that the court order requires 
that we exercise every effort to desegregate facul­
ties, and we are continuing to do so; witness the 
fact that we have a vacancy at Booker T. Washing­
ton which we have not filled. We will continue to 
try to in good faith carry out the order of this 
court. Plans have been made, after our report was 
made, for a desegregation of faculty based on what 
we proposed June 15. There has been only one 
change, and that has been additional three students. 
And we feel like that we have substantially com­
plied with the court’s order, and that there is a 
substantial desegregation of faculty in this system.

The Court: I didn’t mean to cut you off, Mr. Gray.
Mr. Gray: Your honor, there is only one thing I 

hope the court will consider, and—and— and—in—in 
—in deciding this case, and that is what effect this 
court’s decision may have in the other ninety-nine 
school systems in Lee v. Macon, and in these sys­
tems, the—their report isn’t due until after school 
starts.

The Court: Has there been any motion filed in 
this case to bring the order entered in this case in 
conformity with—excuse me—in conformity with the



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order entered by the three-judge court in Lee against 
Macon ?

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Mr. Gray: My recollection is we did file such 

motion, and we had a hearing on it back in the late 
spring or early summer; I think such motion was 
filed.

The Court: Was an order entered to that effect?
Mr. Gray: Yes, sir; the current order was an 

order after that motion had been made.
The Court: Uh, huh.
Mr. Gray: And I just want the court to con­

sider—
The Court: How does Montgomery’s performance 

generally correspond to the performance of the 
schools in Lee against Macon, with the exception 
of some outstanding schools that—how—how—

Mr. Ross: Your honor, I could give you a de­
tailed answer to that question if you would like it.

The Court: Of course, I have those statistics in 
my office; I could go look it up; but generally, how 
does it?

Mr. Ross: Well, your honor, I—I don’t have it 
precisely with me at this time; this is based on 
informal reports made to us and to the State Super­
intendent’s office.

The Court: The only thing I have is what I got 
through you all.

Mr. Ross: Yes, sir; well, of the ninety-nine, there 
is approximately forty that have plans for a—for 
an average of one desegregating teacher per school 
in their system.

The Court: Forty?



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Mr. Ross: That is pretty close to half.

The Court: With one—
Mr. R oss: At least one—
The Court: —per school?
Mr. Ross: —desegregating teacher per school in 

the system.
The Court: (Nodded to indicate affirmative re­

ply-)
Mr. Ross: There are ten or twelve of those that 

have two teachers per system, and beyond the forty, 
there is another fifteen or twenty that are pretty 
close to one teacher—per school in the system.

The Court: Uh, huh.
Mr. R oss: The Superintendents, by and large, 

worked very hard and—in many systems, and have 
done what the court decree says, no segregated 
faculty at any school, and where possible, more 
than one teacher per school.

The Court: Yes.
Mr. R oss: Many have done that. In Montgomery, 

obviously it is certainly a lot less than one. It 
will be—I guess there will still be over forty schools 
in Montgomery County this fall, under present plans, 
that do not have any interracial faculty whatsoever, 
and I might add that—that the small rural systems 
kind of look—keep their eye on what is happening 
in the big cities.

The Court: I hope they don’t watch Birmingham 
and Mobile too closely.

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Mr. Ross: And—well, the publicity about Birm­

ingham and Mobile has had an adverse effect on

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small county Superintendents wlio were trying to 
do what the order says, and they—and they say, 
“ What about these people?” AVell, the problem is—

The Court: Of course, that is what I am doing 
now.

Mr. Ross: That’s right. AVell, the reports in 
those cases—

The Court: In dealing with one of the three or 
four metropolitan areas in the State.

Mr. R oss: I think—
The Court: I am pretty sensitive to classifica­

tions of schools throughout the State, and I think 
the rural schools, those that can be classified as 
rural, should be kept going just about the same 
pace, with the same performance, and I think that 
should be true as far as your metropolitan areas 
are concerned, too. It hasn’t been the case.

Mr. Ross: I think we are going to find that the 
rural systems are doing better than the city sys­
tems.

The Court: I think so. I think so.
Mr. R oss: And I think that the basic problem in­

volved in this case, and generally, is to what extent 
the burden of teacher desegregation is on the—on 
the teachers and to what extent it is on the Super­
intendents—

The Court: Well—
Mr. Ross: —as far as—

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The Court: —I have expressed myself on that 

in the three-judge court case upon two or three 
occasions: That if you can’t do it by persuasion, 
you do it by assignment.



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Mr. Eoss: Yes, sir.
The Court: That is what the law requires; there 

is no question about the law in the case.
Mr. Eoss: Well, the point that myself and Mr. 

Ortenberg are making here—and I think the cities— 
we may have been late in filing our motion—

The Court: You say they haven’t gone far enough.
Mr. Eoss: — they are the—they are the examples 

for these smaller systems, and it is going—it— 
it is pretty reasonable for a Superintendent in a 
small system at this point to say, “Look what I 
have done, I have prepared my community for de­
segregating a teacher in every school, and in these 
big cities they are not doing the job.”

The Court: Yes. All right, gentlemen.
Mr. Gray: Your honor, just one final thing; and 

that is I think—and I realize that this—we are 
much further along in this case than we— than they 
are in Birmingham and in Mobile, and I think it 
is because of the difference in the court; but what 
we are concerned about is while we are dealing here 
with one school system, I hope we don’t meet what 
may happen in this case in ninety-nine other school 
systems, and I just hope the court will consider that 
in whatever ruling it makes.

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The Court: I didn’t follow you on that; I am 

sorry; I  didn’t understand what you were talking 
about ?

Mr. Gray: "What I was simply saying, your honor, 
is that in view of the fact there is a question of 
tardiness of the motion, that will not be the ques­
tion in the ninety-nine school systems who will be



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making reports in the next couple of weeks, and 
I am just hoping that whatever action the court 
takes here will not be used as a precedent in what 
the court may do in these other ninety-nine systems 
as a guide. What I am really saying is that there 
are ten crossovers here in a big metropolitan school 
system—

The Court: I understand what you are saying.
Mr. Gray: —and we get to some of these smaller 

ones, and I would hate for us to meet the same 
problem in one of our other school systems. And 
because of the tardiness here, there may be a ques­
tion of—of penalizing some other persons who would 
normally receive some benefit.

The Court: All right; has the teacher—the State 
teacher choice law had any effect in this case?

Mr. Robison: I f the court please, we got a notice 
this morning in connection with that, and they 
brought it to the office; I have not advised with them 
about it. Frankly, at this stage, it’s not affected 
Montgomery too much.

The Court: Well, all right, gentlemen.
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Court Reporter’s Certificate (omitted in printing)



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Transcript of Hearing— February 9, 1968

In the

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F oe the M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern Division

B e f o r e  :
H on. F rank M. Johnson, Jr.,

Judge,
at

Montgomery, Alabama, February 9,1968.

A p p e a r a n c e s :

For the Plaintiffs:

Gray, Seay, L angford & Pryor 
(Fred D. Gray and 
Solomon S. Seay, Jr.).

For the Defendants:

H ill, Robison, Belser & Phelps 
(Vaughan H. Robison and 
Joseph D. Phelps).

For the United States:

B en H ardeman,
F rank D. A llen, Jr., and 
Charles W . Quaintance.



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—498—
(The above-styled case coming on for hearing at Mont­

gomery, Alabama, February 9, 19C8, before Hon. Frank 
M. Johnson, Jr., Judge, the following proceedings were 
had:)

The Court: Carr against Montgomery County Board 
of Education, Civil Action 2072-N, set for hearing at this 
time upon motion of the Lnited States for further relief, 
that motion having been joined in by the plaintiffs, and 
the motion of the United States for additional further 
relief, filed February t, that motion having been also joined 
in by the plaintiffs. Movants ready?

Mr. Allen: Yes, your honor; we are ready.
The Court: Plaintiffs ready?
Mr. Gray: Yes, sir; your honor.
The Court: Defendants ready?
Mr. Robison: I f the court please, we have been served 

this morning with a motion by the plaintiffs in this case 
which goes into an altogether different facet, namely, 
transportation. I understood the motion of the United 
States this morning was pertaining to faculty and ath­
letics. We would move at this time to dismiss or strike 
the motion filed by the plaintiffs this morning, in that it 
is not timely filed and in that it is not within the scope 
of the motion filed by the United States and joined in 
by the plaintiffs and in that it fads to state a cause of 
action upon which relief can be granted.

The Court: Well, I will deny your motion; if, after we 
conclude the hearing today, you, by reason of the late

__4.99__
filing, want additional time to present other testimony 
in connection with this facet of the case, I will, of course, 
give you an opportunity to do that. I won’t penalize you 
because of the late filing.



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Mr. Eobison: Yes, sir; because we are not prepared at 
this time—

The Court: My reason—
Mr. Robison: —to go into the— excuse me.
The Court: It is not entirely foreign to the motions 

now pending. It may particularize, and it does, to more 
extent or greater extent than the motions now pending, 
but it is not foreign to the matters for which this case 
was set today. If I read the motion correctly, the hearing 
today goes to all facets of the legal duty on the Mont­
gomery County Board to substantially desegregate its sys­
tem pursuant to the orders that have heretofore been en­
tered; and that, of course, includes transportation, and it 
refers to all your schools in the system—but, since this is 
focused particularly to one school and the transportation 
in connection with that school, if you need additional time, 
I reiterate, after we conclude the testimony today on this 
phase of the matter, I will give you an opportunity to be 
heard further on it.

Mr. Eobison: All right, sir.
The Court: But I have read Superintendent McKee’s 

deposition that was taken, and this was touched upon in 
that deposition on cross examination by Mr. Seay, so he 
has had notice, and you all have had notice, that they were 
interested in this phase of the case. So I deny your motion

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to strike and deny your motion to continue this aspect of 
the case.

Mr. Robison: All right, sir.
The Court: Call your witnesses around.
Mr. Allen: Your honor, could I ask—we have several 

witnesses; I woidd like to put them all under the rule, 
if I could.



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The Court: Call them around first, if you will; we are 
going to swear all witnesses at this time.

Marshal: All the witnesses, please come around, all 
witnesses who expect to testify.

Mr. Gray: Mr. Scott.
Witness Herman L. Scott: Right here.
Mr. Gray: Mr. Wilson.
Witness W ilson: Right.
Mr. Gray: My witnesses are here.
Mr. Allen: Ours are all here, your honor.
The Court: Your witnesses?
Mr. Robison: Yes, sir.
The Court: All right; swear them.
The Clerk: All witnesses, please raise your right hand. 

You and each of you do solemnly swear that the testi­
mony you give in this cause to be the truth, the whole 
truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you, God.

The Court: All right; let the witnesses go to the witness
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room, if you will, please.
Marshal: All witnesses, please come this way.
Mr. Robison: If the court please, we would like to have 

excused from the rule Mr. Walter McKee, who is a party 
to this case, and Mr. Silas Garrett, who is Associate- 
Assistant Superintendent.

The Court: They may remain in the court. Your first 
witness.

Mr. Allen: Call Mr. McKee. If the court please, I 
would like at this time to introduce Mr. McKee’s deposi­
tion, discovery deposition, to avoid going into the same 
matters he has testified to as U. S. Exhibit number 1.

Mr. Robison: We have no objection.
The Court: It will be admitted.



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W alter M cK ee, a defendant, having been duly sworn, 
testified as follows:

Direct Examination by Mr. Allen:

Q. Will you state your name, please, sir? A. Walter 
McKee.

Q. Are you Superintendent of Education of the Mont­
gomery County? A. Yes.

Q. How long have you held that position? A. Since 
July of 1958.

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Q. I believe you testified—testified at your deposition 

that since September 1, 1967, your system has hired thirty- 
one new teachers; is that correct? A. I believe that is 
correct ?

Q. And since that same time, twenty-two teachers have 
left the system; is that correct? A. I believe that is 
correct.

Q. You also mentioned seven of the thirty-one teachers 
who were placed in situations where their race was in the 
minority? A. That is correct.

Q. Of those seven, two are white teachers who were 
assigned to the Paterson School; is that correct? A. I 
believe that is correct.

Q. And two white teachers were assigned to Hayneville 
Road School? A. Correct.

Q. Now, one was a white teacher who was assigned to 
the Goode Street School, or Goode Street School? A. 
That is correct.

Q. And Goode Street School actually now has an all 
white faculty; isn’t that correct? A. That is correct.

Q. It has— A. However, a majority of the students 
are colored.



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Q. —in excess of fifty per cent of the children are 
Negro; is that right? A. More than likely.

—503—
Q. And one of those seven, the only Negro teacher of 

those seven, has been assigned as a speech therapist? A. 
That is correct.

Q. One of the teachers has been assigned as a—assigned 
to Booker Washington; is that correct? A. One, Booker 
Washington; yes, I believe that’s right.

Q. I believe you also testified that for the first semester 
of 1967-68, you had approximately one hundred fifty stu­
dent teachers in your system; is that correct? A. That 
is correct.

Q. And none of these were assigned to situations where 
their race was in the minority? A. That is correct.

Q. For this semester, you have now assigned four Negro 
student teachers to predominantly white schools? A. That 
is correct.

Q. How many student teachers do you estimate you 
will have throughout the system for this current semester? 
A. Well, it would vary, because, as I told you in the deposi­
tion, that Auburn is on a quarter system, and they are 
not on a semester system, and we will have some from 
Auburn and some Troy; I would say we could have as 
many as two hundred at one time, but it will vary as one 
school’s quarter ends and one’s semester ends.

Q. You say you will have as many as two hundred at
— 504—

one time? A. We could have; yes.
Q. Do you say—that means that the total for the whole 

semester would be in excess of two hundred? A. The 
Auburn teachers on a quarter system; they are not on a 
semester system.



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Q. I mean your total? A. Somewhere in that neigh­
borhood; I wouldn’t know exactly.

Q. The Jefferson Davis High School which is being con­
structed on Carter Hill Road, you plan to open this this 
coming fall? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Prior to this hearing, when I asked you to mark on 
this map which is Plaintiff’s Exhibit 1 to a prior hearing 
previously introduced in this case location of the Jeff 
Davis High School; is that correct? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Is that this X  marked right here I am pointing to? 
A. If that is right across from Carter Hill Road Elemen­
tary, that is it.

Q. All right; I also asked you to mark the location of 
the other high schools in the city of Montgomery, and 
are these other X ’s that I am pointing to here those high 
schools? A. Yes, sir.

Q. This X  located on Court Street is Lanier High 
School— A. That is correct.

Q- — correct? This one on Fairview is Carver? A. 
Carver.

— 505—
Q. This one is Booker Washington— A. Booker Wash­

ington.
Q. —right? And this one? A. Lee.
Q. And you also testified, I believe, on page twenty-five 

and twenty-six of your deposition; “About how many teach­
ers will you have out there next year,” referring to Jeff 
Davis High School— A. Well, is that—

Q. Excuse me, let me finish reading. “Well, of course, 
since the school will be operated under a freedom of choice 
plan, it would all depend on how many choose it. Now, we 
opened a new school several years ago, and it was made 
up largely of tenth graders, and most of the eleventh and



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twelfth graders decided to stay in their old school. This 
may be different this year. We have no way of knowing.” 
Question, “You won’t really finalize your faculty plans until 
after the choice period? Yes, sir. When is the choice 
period? In March. It ends the 31st?” Answer, “ The 31st of 
March.” Now—now, is that—the inference to be taken 
from that that you will assign teachers based on where 
the students come from? A. We—

Mr. Robison: I f the court please, we would ob­
ject to what the inference to the question is.

The Court: Well, I sustain it to that question; go
— 506—

ahead and ask him what his—what he intends to do.
Mr. Allen: Well—
The Court: That part of his testimony in the 

deposition is unclear, very unclear; it is not devel­
oped sufficiently.

Q. What—

The Court: You might develop it now, if you 
wish.

Q. Where do you intend to get the teachers that you 
will assign to Jeff Davis? A. When the choice period is 
over on the 31st of March, then the principal, Mr. Rutland, 
will notify all of the students that have chosen Jefferson 
Davis School to meet—where we haven’t decided—or he 
will go to schools where there are large numbers of them 
coming from, and they will be given a chance to choose the 
subjects that they want to take. Then after they choose 
their subjects, you can see how many English teachers you 
will need, how many Math teachers, how many Typing



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teachers, how many of any of the other subjects—Eco­
nomics— that you will need, French or whatever we offer; 
and, of course, what they choose will be what they will 
get.

Q. Then where will you get the teachers to teach those 
subjects? A. Well, the teachers will come from the other 
four high schools or newly employed people or somebody 
moved up from the junior high; we don’t anticipate a 
great many more students than we have this year.

Q. What is the relationship between—between the stu-
— 5 0 7 -

dents, or where they come from, and the—and where the 
teachers will come from, if any? A. It doesn’t—it doesn’t 
make any difference where the students come from under 
the court order provided—

The Court: What he is asking you, Mr. McKee, 
to use an example, if a thousand of your Lanier 
students, through the freedom of choice, elect to 
go to your Jefferson Davis School, are you going to 
then get the teachers from Lanier that formerly 
taught the thousand; that is what he is asking you ?

Witness: Well, we—we just have to work it out. 
Some of them might not fit; we might have to trans­
fer others; some of them undoubtedly would come 
from there or Booker Washington or whichever 
other school that—

Q. Teachers are assigned to various schools based on 
average daily attendance for the previous year; is that 
right? A. Well, in high school, it’s—it’s partly average 
daily attendance, and partly by the subjects that is in de­
mand in those particular schools.



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Q. TV ell, there is a relationship between how many 
teachers you have at a school and how many students you 
have there? A. Oh, sure; sure.

Q. So if—if you have fewer students at Lanier next 
Jear than you have this year, you will have fewer teach­
ers? A. That is correct.

Q. And, by the same token, if you have the same num-
—508—

bei of students at Booker TV ashington this vear, you will 
have approximately the same number of teachers? A. 
That would be correct.

The Court: On that point, have you already en­
tered into your contract—contracts with your teach­
ers for Lanier and Booker Washington next year?

Witness: No, sir; we have sent out notices to find 
out which teachers want to come back for next year; 
that is as far as we have gone.

The Court: When is your usual period of con­
tracting with your teachers?

Witness: We usually— sometime in April we 
notify teachers that unless they have been notified 
otherwise, they are hired again for next year.

The Court: All right; go ahead, Mr. Allen.

Q. You have already appointed a principal and five 
faculty members for Jeff Davis High School; is that cor­
rect? A. I believe that is correct.

Q. Are they all white? A. They are all white.
Q. The five faculty members are—in addition to their 

teaching duties, will be the coach, two assistant coaches, 
a band director, and a principal’s assistant? A. Prin­
cipal’s helper; he is not—we are not quite big enough for



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an assistant principal, but this person will teach and help
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in the office.
Q. He will help the principal with the administration? 

A. Part of the day; yes.
Q. I believe you have also stated previously that it is 

not now your current plan to furnish any transportation 
to Jeff Davis High School—  A. That is correct.

Q. —next year? You also plan to open two elementary 
schools next fall? A. That is correct.

The Court: New ones?
Mr. Allen: Yes, sir—
Witness: Yes, sir.
Mr. Allen: —new ones.

Q. Those are—the construction will begin on that 
shortly? A. Well, it’s—it is begun on one, and I am pretty 
sure it is begun on the other one; the contract has been 
signed.

Q. And do you plan to furnish any transportation to 
those two new schools? A. No, sir. See, as I testified, 
our transportation is for rural children, not in the city 
area.

Q. Well, do you now furnish transportation for rural 
students into the city to the other schools? A. Yes; we 
have been in some certain city schools, not all of them. 

Q. You furnish transportation to Lee, Lanier, Booker
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Washington, and Carver? A. That is correct.

The Court: Within the city?
Witness: No; it is from the county. Now, there 

may be a few in certain areas that have been re-



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cently taken in if it hasn’t been changed; but, by and 
large, it is the rural children. We have about only 
about eight thousand of our children are trans­
ported.

The Court: Now, one of—go ahead.
The Clerk: Government’s Exhibits 2 through 32 

marked for identification.
The Court: 2 through what?
The Clerk: 32.

Q. I will hand you folders marked as Government’s Ex­
hibits 2 through 32, and ask you if you will identify those, 
please, sir? A. Well, I believe they are the folders that 
you copied of the teachers that have been hired since the 
opening of school.

Q. All right. A. And incidentally, Mr. Garrett hired
another one yesterday who is a colored teacher going to__
I mean a white teacher going to a colored school.

Q. Which school is that? A. I— I can’t say for sure; 
it is Paterson—no, it is—is it Paterson?

The Court: Fews.

A. Fews—Fews Elementary.
—511—

Mr. Allen: I offer Government’s Exhibits 2 
through 32.

Mr. Robison: We have no objection. They are 
copies; those are the copies of the records which you 
got that deposition from?

Mr. Allen: That’s right.
The Court: They will be admitted.
The Clerk: Government Exhibit number 33 for 

identification.



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Q. I will hand you a bundle of documents marked as 
Government’s Exhibit 33, ask you if you will identify these, 
please, sir? A. Those are the weekly reports made by 
our schools and up through—they did not include last 
week, because they were not quite all in, but it is the week 
before.

Q. Are these regular business reports? A. No; they 
are regular weekly attendance reports.

Q. And they are submitted to you by the principal of 
each school? A. That is correct.

Q. Do those records show the number of substitute and 
the names of substitute teachers which have been used 
for the week that the report covers? A. At the bottom 
of the report, it says, “Name of teacher, number of days, 
cause of absence, name of substitute employed,” and it 
shows the number of days she taught.

Mr. Allen: I would like to offer U.S. Exhibit 33 
into evidence, and we have agreed with Mr. Robison

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that we will copy these and substitute copies so 
that they can keep their records.

Mr. Robison: We have no objection.
The Court: They will be admitted.
The Clerk: Government Exhibit 34-A and 34-B, 

35-A and 35-B, 36, and 37 marked for identification.

Q. I show you two documents marked as Government’s 
Exhibit 34-A and 34-B, and ask you if you would identify 
those, please, sir? A. Well, this is the 1965 and ’66 list of 
substitute teachers.

Q. Are there two lists? A. Yes.
Q. Does one list contain all Negro names? A. Yes.



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Q. And the other all white names? A. And the court 
a year ago said that we did not have to desegregate the 
faculty for that year; we separated the lists as we had 
been doing in the past.

Q. Could you tell us which is the Negro and which is 
the white? A. Well, I am sure this is the colored, be­
cause—

Q. Indicating 34-B? A. Yes.
Q. How can you tell that is the Negro? A. I am guess­

ing by some of these streets.
Q. And— A. This is the white.
Q. —34-A would be the whites.

—512(a)—
Mr. Allen: I offer Government’s Exhibit 34-A 

and B into evidence.
The Court: If I understand it, A  is your list of 

white substitute teachers; B is your list of Negro 
substitute teachers; is that right?

Witness: That is correct.
The Court: All right; for ’65-66?
Mr. Allen: Yes, your honor.
The Court: All right. It will be admitted.

Q. Now, I will show you documents marked as Govern­
ment’s Exhibit 35-A and 35-B, and ask you to identify 
those. A. That is the substitute teachers’ list for last 
year or the ’66-67.

Q. Now, there are— there are two lists there, also? A. 
There are two lists, because this was the year, really, that 
we got the order; that—we had been making them two 
in the past.

Q. Now, which is—these also all one—all Negro names



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on one and all white on the other? A. That is correct. 
As far as I know, it is.

Q. And which is which? A. This is the white, and this 
is colored.

Q. You have indicated white as 34-A ; is that correct? 
A. Well, whatever this one is.

Q. This one; all right. A. All right.
Q. And 34-B is the Negro list? A. That’s right.

—513—
Mr. Allen: We offer these into evidence.
The Clerk: 35, I believe.
The Court: It will be admitted.
Mr. Allen: I beg your pardon, those—that’s right; 

35-A and 35-B.

Q. Now, I show you Government’s Exhibit 36 for iden­
tification, and ask you to identify that? A. This is the 
complete list of substitute teachers for ’67-68.

Q. That is the one— A. Giving the telephone numbers, 
street address, what their subject preference is, and the 
number of years they have been to college.

Q. This is the one that is currently being used? A. 
That is the one in use.

Mr. Allen: I would like to offer this into evi­
dence.

Mr. Robison: We have no objection.
The Court: It will be admitted.

Q. Now, I will show you Government’s Exhibit 37 for 
identification, and ask you if you have seen that before? 
A. That is not ours; I have seen a State Department 
Directory; that is not—



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Q. Well, can you identify that? A. Well, it says, “ Edu­
cational Directory for 1966-67, authorized by State Board 
of Education.”

Mr. Allen: I would like to offer this into evidence.
—514—

Mr. Robison: If the court please, we would ob­
ject to the introduction of that unless he can further 
show that it is pertinent to this case or Mr. McKee 
has a copy of it or that it—

Mr. Allen: Your honor, the purpose of this is it 
lists in there high schools by race, and we want to

for purposes of our—part of our case pertains 
to scheduling, we will have to identify the high 
schools.

The Court: Well, is there any question about it 
being official publication of the State of Alabama 
Department of Education?

Mr. Robison: I don’t know, sir.
The Court: Well, do you state that it is?
Witness: Yes, sir; that is—I think that is the 

directory.

Q. Is it—

Mr. Robison: We have no objection, then.
Witness: Well, it lists Board members, super­

intendents, and principals, and people at State De­
partment, but we have nothing to do with publish­
ing that.

The Court: All right; it will be admitted, then.
Mr. Allen: I have no further questions of this 

witness, your honor.
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By Mr. Gray:
Q. Mr. McKee, I think you testified with respect to the 

fact that the three other high schools in the city provides
—515—

transportation for rural children; is that right? A. I 
believe it was four.

Q. Four others. May I direct your attention toward 
the Lee High School, which is in the eastern part of the 
city of Montgomery; is that correct? A. That is correct.

Q. Now, basically, what rural children transportation 
would be afforded to these children? A. From the Atlanta 
Highway around to the Wetumpka—Lower Wetumpka 
Road.

Q. And what general area would, say, Lanier High 
School, that is on Court Street, that— A. From the At­
lanta Highway around to the bridge on the River going 
to Birmingham, within, say, eight or ten miles out in the 
country.

Q. Say from the Atlanta Highway North? A. Well, 
clear around to the River bridge going to Birmingham.

Q. Or South from the Atlanta Highway? A. Well, you 
would come around Montgomery; the Atlanta Highway is 
the dividing line between the transportation.

Q. So then we will say students in the Southeast sec­
tion of Montgomery who live in the rural, would they be 
transported to Lanier, or would they be transported to 
Lee? A. Well, it would—they would be transported—it 
depends on which school they chose; if they chose—they 
would be transported to either Lanier or Carver—

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Q. Now, do— A. —depending on their choice. Depend­

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Q. Does the Board of Education provide transportation 
to the students who, say, choose Lanier: Let’s take a 
Negro student who lives down the Woodley Road; now, 
does the Board of Education provide transportation for 
that child to go to Lanier High School? A. If he chooses 
it. If he chooses it.

Q. It does provide it? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Does it provide transportation for them to go to 

Lanier—I mean Lee High School? A. No.
Q. All right. Now, do you recall a conversation with 

some representatives during last fall with respect to pro­
viding transportation to—to Lanier High School from the 
Woodley Road area, and they were advised that the only 
transportation available in that area was transportation 
either to Carver High School or to Booker Washington 
High School? A. No, sir; I don’t remember that.

Q. Do you have or is any transportation provided down 
the Woodley Road area to Negro students at all so far as 
Lee or Lanier are concerned? A. On the Woodley Road 
down to a certain distance, they have a chance to go or 
choose, and the buses go to Lee—I mean to Lanier or 
Carver.

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Q. Now, I think, Doctor, at the time the choice forms 

were sent out, it indicated on the forms which schools 
had transportation provided? A. It had an asterisk by 
the schools that had transportation provided.

Q. And is it your testimony, sir, that on those forms 
that were given to Negro children in the Woodley Road 
area, there was an asterisk indicating that they could have 
selected Lanier High School or Lee High School? A. No; 
it was—well, it—it showed both of them, but if they had



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chosen Lee, we would have sent them a letter that from 
that area buses do not run to Lee High School, but there 
would be buses to Lanier or Carver.

Q. And you are sure that the asterisk was there for 
Lanier as well as Carver? A. Oh, yes; we have got some 
that are transported to Lanier.

Q. Now, let me ask you further with respect to trans­
portation, and I want to direct your attention again to 
this area in the Southeast part of the city; now, students 
who live down the Woodley Road, Narrow Lane Road— 
there are some Negroes who live in this area; is that right? 
A. Yes, sir.

Q. And there are some of both elementary and high 
school age? A. And junior high.

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Q. And junior high. A. (Nodded to indicate affirmative 

reply)
Q. Now, let me ask you about transportation on the 

elementary level; do those students in that area—they 
were indicated on the form; what schools did it indicate 
transportation would be provided for them? A. In that 
area?

Q. Yes, sir? A. Goode Street and Hayneville Road, it 
had— of course, the form has all of them that have—but 
if there had been any question, those were the two that 
that would serve.

Q. Yes, sir; transportation was provided. A. That’s 
right.

Q. Now, this area down here, you have some on five or 
six miles, southeastern part; now, where is the Hayneville 
Road Junior High School or Hayneville Road Elementary? 
A. Well, it is on the By-Pass right near the Reconsign­
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Q. But that is—actually, it is in the western, is it not— 
the western part of the city? A. Well—

Q. You mind, sir, coming around showing us where 
Hayneville Road Elementary School is? A. There it is. 
That is the Reconsignment Point.

Q. Here is the By-Pass. A. Right along in here.
Q. All right. Jsow, if you will, just stay here just a

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moment, sir. M ill you make a mark about where on 
Hayneville Road is it? A. I can’t find the Reconsignment 
Point; it is almost—

The Court: You will have to speak out so the 
reporter can hear you.

A. I said right across the street from the Reconsignment 
Point; I don’t see that marked on here.

Q. This is the Western By-Pass right here, and Hayne­
ville Road. A. I believe—where is—

Q. And here is the Hayneville Road. A. Fairview com­
ing out.

Q. Mobile Road. A. Right here; it would be somewhere 
right along in here, I guess.

Q. Would you put a large mark and circle it; that is 
the Hayneville Road School. One other thing before you 
go back, if you will. Now, show us the general area where 
these Negro children live who must go to Hayneville Road 
School, east or west, for transportation in the southeastern 
part of the city. A. Any student that lives between the 
Atlanta Highway—wherever the Atlanta Highway is—

Q. That would be here. A. All right; on this side of 
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would be transported to Goode Street or Hayneville Eoad 
if they choose the transportation.

Q. Now, would those children—would you show us where
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Goode Street is? A. It is—right in here; right there.
Q. If you will, make a mark and circle a large— A. 

(Witness marked map)
Q. Circle that. A. (Witness marked map)
Q. Thank you. Approximately how many schools would 

an average Negro child who lives on the either south­
eastern or south— southern part of the city have to pass 
in order to get to the Hayneville Eoad School? A. Well, 
it would depend on which way he went; if he went—if he 
went around that By-Pass, I believe Harrison would be 
the only one he would pass.

Q. Let’s go back to my example of down the Woodley 
Eoad. A. Well, I presume he would come up to the Wood- 
ley Eoad, to the By-Pass, and go right around, that would 
be about the best way.

Q. You have already got an elementary— A. Got 
Harrison.

Q. —already on Woodley Eoad— A. Have Harrison.
Q. Do you have an elementary school already on the 

Woodley Eoad? A. Not yet, no; we are going to build 
one out that way.

Q. Where is Bear School? A. Bear School is on the 
McGehee Eoad, right off the McGehee Eoad; I have for­
gotten the name of the street in front of it, but it is right 
there at the intersection of the McGehee Eoad and

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Woodley Eoad; I think there is a church, and they have 
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Q. It is just about on the Woodley Road, isn’t it? A. 
Well, it is on the Woodley Road, but it is a long ways 
from the edge of town.

Q. But it is south of the Southern By-Pass some four 
or five blocks; is that correct; on the Woodley Road? A. 
It is north of it—

Q. It is north? A. —toward town.
Q. North of it. Isn’t there an elementary school on the 

Woodley Road that’s south of the Southern By-Pass? A. 
Not on the Woodley Road.

Q. It is one on the McGehee Road? A. No; McGehee 
Road ends up there about the Montgomery Fair.

Q. Now, where is the proposed new elementary school 
to be built? A. It is in Spring Valley.

Q. And is that on the—approximately where would that 
be on this map? If you will, come and show us? This is 
the Woodley Road here. A. It is right along about just 
this side of Baldwin Slough.

Q. All right; make a little mark, if you will, Mr.— so 
that is the proposed new elementary school. And this ele­
mentary school is near a great deal—quite a few Negroes 
who live further down the Woodley Road and further 
down Narrow Lane Road? A. Yes; it is nearer to some 
Negroes and white people that live down that road.

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Q. All right; and you are saying that no transportation 

will be provided for these students, even though they live 
farther than two miles from this elementary school? A. 
This will only be a very small elementary school; we are 
constructing twelve or thirteen rooms, and it is built 
largely for— oh, it will be plenty of people within two miles 
of it.

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where that school is going np, isn’t it? A. It is a new 
subdivision.

Q. And is there any logical reason why the school can­
not be built large enough to accommodate these other stu­
dents who live in the same general area? A. I am sure 
there will be colored students, plenty of colored students 
within two miles of that school.

Q. But I am saying, is there any basic reason, Dr. 
McKee, why that school could not be constructed large 
enough to facilitate children who live two or three miles 
further and who must now ride some ten to twenty miles 
a day to get to a school? A. Well, I  doubt if there is 
any riding twenty; there might be some riding ten. Of 
course, money is always a problem; if you had enough 
money, you could build schools anywhere you want.

Q. That’s right; as a matter of fact you are building 
and adding to—to the McIntyre Elementary School, aren’t 
you? A. We have built a junior high there.

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Q. Built a junior high there; that is in a Negro pocket 

on the west side of town? A. We built it because the 
Government requested us; they were fixing to build this 
Gibbs Housing Project, and we had to write that letter 
that we would have enough schools that serve in that area.

Q. Yes, sir. A. And we have finished the building and 
operating the school this year.

Q. As a matter of fact, there has been additions that 
this Board has made to the Hayneville Road School since 
this court order has been in effect, hasn’t it? A. Yes; 
we have—we had permission from this court to build some 
rooms at Hayneville Road.

Q. And it is these Negro children who is going to pass 
by this new school to go to Hayneville Road in order to



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have transportation, isn’t it? A. There will also be some 
white children that will pass by, too, if they want to ride 
the bus.

Q. So then there is nothing that the— if the Board 
wanted to, it could make this school large enough to 
facilitate the elementary school kids in that area, couldn’t 
they? A. I don’t think it would be big enough by next 
faU.

Q. Now, let me ask you this, sir; the high school stu­
dents in this area, transportation is provided for them at 
Carver and Booker Washington; is that right? A. Trans-

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portation is provided for them at Carver and Lanier, 
Booker Washington when you get to the Atlanta Highway, 
when you get to—

Q. Yes, sir; let me direct your attention, now, to the 
new high school. And I think you testified that at all of 
the other high schools in the city, transportation is pro­
vided; is that right? A. That is correct.

Q. What was the criteria used by the Board in deter­
mining to provide transportation at these other high 
schools? A. It has been the policy of the Board for twenty 
years; when we first—Montgomery began growing that 
we left our transported schools where they were, and we 
knew that in the areas that were growing, that those 
schools would fill up with people that lived right around 
the school, and we have continued to transport; we have 
been transporting to Capitol Heights Elementary, to Goode 
Street, and Booker Washington Elementary, and now 
Hayneville Road; we used to could handle them at Carver 
until Carver got so big, and we had to build another build­
ing, and we have been doing that for years. And Pender 
Street is another school that has transported elementary 
children.



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Q. All right; now, you have had and there is now going 
up at the Carver High School additional classroom facili­
ties; is that right? A. There is an auditorium and a band 
room and a room for the R.O.T.C. and I believe a choral 
room.

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Q. Is there any real basic reason, sir, why this Board 

cannot provide transportation to students who qualify for 
it to this new high school? A. We feel that we have 
decide—that we would transport to the ones that we have 
been transporting to.

Q. Now, won’t that—won’t the effect of this be that 
many Negroes who don’t live in the direct area of a school, 
but who live nearer that school, and doesn’t it mean that 
you won’t provide transportation for them, and they will 
have to go a long way— A. Well—

Q. —in order to get it? A. Well, as I interpret the 
court order, under the freedom of choice, if a—and I have 
the feeling there will be a large number of people choosing 
this as a new school, they would be turned away because 
of distance.

Q. Now, that wouldn’t eliminate the problem so far as 
transportation is concerned? A. Well, I mean, what I am 
saying is, if the school was full at the end of March, then 
we have got to notify those that live the furthest away 
from the school, and that would be the ones—the trans­
ported people would be the ones.

Q. Is that why you are saying the Board decided not 
to have any transportation here? A. That is why the 
administration has decided; yes.

Q. Describe for the court, if you will, the general area 
where this—where this new high school is being built?



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A. Well, it is being built on Carter Hill Road between the 
old Green Lantern, or the Green Lantern Branch of the 
Union Bank and Trust Company, and Masonic Home.

Q. Is this a fastlv growing area, populationwise ? A. 
Very fast.

Q. And isn’t it right in the middle of a very gross white 
population area? A. It is in the middle of a fast growing 
area.

Q. White people are the only ones live there except a 
little pocket of Negroes who—who—there are two or 
three houses right at the Masonic building and the Vaughn 
Road; there are very few Negroes out in that area; isn’t 
that right? A. I don’t know of very many; no.

Q. Sir? But I don’t know when there will be some.
Q. And the nearest Negro families, except for this little 

pocket that is right at the Carter Hill Road, Vaughn Road, 
railroad and the church, there would be these Negroes 
that live down the Vaughn Road, Woodley Road, Nar­
row Lane Road, and this rural area to the east of Mont­
gomery? A. Well, I would think that those in the Carter 
Hill area, on the Carter Hill Road area, would be nearer 
than that,

Q. What you mean— A. I mean—
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Q. —the area near— A. —the area in the Carter Hill 
Road where the Negroes are moving in and across Carter 
Hill and all in that area, there are some of them that would 
be closer.

Q. You are talking about the area of Carter Hill Road 
right around at the back of Alabama State College? A. 
That’s right; and there is a good bit of movement there, 
colored people in the former white area.



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Q. As a matter of fact, the area where this new high 
school is being built is a pretty—really, it is more the 
upper echelon than the lower income group of people that 
live out there? A. I see some pretty big houses out there—

Q. Yes, sir. A. —and there are some that is not so big.
Q. Now, let’s talk for a moment, if you will, sir, about 

your other elementary schools. A. All right.
Q. And where is this other elementary school that is 

to be built? A. It is at Southlawn out in—on beyond the 
Mobile—intersection of Mobile Highway and the—and 
the—it is right in here.

Q. It is on the southern part of the city toward the 
west; is that right? A. Well, the south; it is south.

Q. South? A. I guess it would be a little bit west; yeah.
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Q. Now, is that in a new white subdivision? A. It is 
in a new subdivision; I don’t know the composition of it 
altogether.

Q. And aren’t there a substantial number of Negroes 
who live, say, more than two miles south of— of this new 
school down Highway 31? A. Yes.

Q. Going toward Hope Hull? A. That’s right.
Q. And you have a—a densely populated Negro area in 

there? A. Of course, on that area, they have the choice 
of Pintlala or Hayneville Road.

Q. Now, do they have transportation to either of those? 
A. Transportation to Pintlala and Hayneville Hoad down 
the Mobile Road after—beyond this subdivision, after you 
get a few miles beyond that.

Q. No transportation is being provided at this particular 
school? A. Transportation this year provided to Pintlala 
and to Hayneville Road.

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transportation system so as to eliminate the dual system 
and to eliminate the overlapping of routes as this court 
directed in its order this summer? A. This Board—I 
mean we have had to change bus routes from time to 
time.

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Q. I am not asking you that, sir; I am asking you 

whether or not now, as result of this court order, all of 
the overlapping where you had wdiite buses going to pre­
dominantly white schools and vice versa, has all that been 
eliminated? A. I couldn’t say that all of it has; we— 
our buses, as we pointed out, serve these various schools, 
and they take the people that choose those schools.

Q. Now, do you understand it to be the responsibility 
of the Board to completely revise the transportational sys­
tem from a dual system to a unitarial system? A. We— 
we do it in the sense that—now, our schools are not sit­
ting side by side that they go to. For instance, the example 
I just gave you, Pintlala and Havneville Road, the buses 
that have the children that want to go to Pintlala, white 
or colored, go to Pintlala. The ones who want to go to 
Havneville Road go to Havneville Road.

Q. Who in your office is responsible for the formation 
of and the outlining of routes to be sure that this court 
order has been carried out? A. The principal—the prin­
cipal of the school is first, and then we have a Mr. Harris 
who is supervisor of transportation and Mr. Kirby who 
is the assistant superintendent in charge of transporta­
tion.

Q. Has the principal, say, of Carver High School and 
the principal of Lanier High School gotten together and 
decided on how to— A. No.



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Q. —have a transportation system so there will be no 
duplication? A. No; we have not done that, because you 
could not make a bus route— if you tried to get a bus into 
Lanier driveway and then go over and get into the Carver 
driveway, you would have children leaving home an hour 
earlier. We try to fix it where a bus will have to serve only 
one school if possible.

Q. So then actually, a—when—when it is left up to the 
principal to decide, he would be unable, really, to do it, 
because he isn’t aware of what the other school does? A. 
Well, we know the impossibility of getting in these drive- 
Avays, especially on rainy days, of these large schools, and 
we try to eliminate at all times where possible—

Q. Has the Board designated any particular person in 
your office and said, “The court has directed us to desegre­
gate our school system, and I Avould like for you to see this 
is done” ; has any such responsibilities been delegated to 
any particular person? A. We ha\̂ e tried to operate our 
buses in a Avay that we would ser\Te the people to the best 
advantage and eliminated duplicate—we had very feAv 
duplicate routes, anyway.

Q. Then do I understand, sir, from Avhat you are say­
ing, nobody has been assigned that responsibility? A. 
Yes, we have all read the court order; we haAre the court 
order and have studied it, and we have tried to carry it 
out to the best of our ability.

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Q. I understand that, but no one has been given the 

specific responsibility? A. Not by the Board, because 
the court has already given the order.

Q. Well, I am saying, has any administrative assistant 
been assigned the responsibility? A. We have a—dis­

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cussed it among the ones that handle transportation; yes, 
we discussed it.

Q. Let me be sure I understand your testimony, sir; 
is it your testimony that there is now no duplication and 
overlapping? A. Yes, there would be some; but, as I 
pointed out, so many of our schools are completely dif­
ferent, I mean not—they are not sitting side by side.

Q. Do you know whether or not—have you recommended 
to the Board that one way to accomplish desegregation of 
transportation would be to appoint someone responsible 
for seeing that this phase of the court order is carried out; 
have you made that recommendation? A. I haven’t made 
that recommendation; it is in the court order; we handle 
it just like we have been handling it—I mean in our sys­
tem. And yes, s ir ; our transportation man works with us, 
and we have many bus routes, buses that are integrated.

Q. In other words— A. In fact, we have one—we have 
had delegations call the Board and everything that got 
more Negroes on it and everything than it has whites, 
and we have had some problems on that bus.

Q. Now, let me direct your attention a few moments to
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your athletic program. A. (Nodded to indicate affirma­
tive reply)

Q. What has the Board done toward desegregating the 
athletic program in the Montgomery County school sys­
tem? A. The Board has let any child that is in a school go 
out for any type of athletics that he desires.

Q. That is within a school? A. That’s right.
Q. Now, will you tell us whether or not there are in 

fact two athletic associations, one that is membership by 
the predominantly white schools, and the other member­
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that is correct; I couldn’t tell you the names of but one of 
them, hut I think that is correct.

Q. Now, what has the Board done toward doing away 
with this dual athletic system? A. We have nothing to 
do with the athletic system, except our schools belong to 
it; we—we are— the Board does not control the Alabama 
High School Athletic Association or the one for the colored 
schools.

Q. Who makes up—but each of your schools—let’s take 
the high schools; each of the high schools are members of 
the association; is that right? A. As far as I know, they 
are; we don’t—

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Q. Each— A. That is handled by the principal of the 

school, but—I think all of them are, but I couldn’t be 
positive.

Q. And all the white ones are members of the white 
association? A. I know that the white ones are members 
of the white association; I think that the colored are mem­
bers of their association.

Q. And has the Board—and are the principals of the 
schools members of the association? A. The coaches are; 
I don’t—I am not sure about whether the principals are; 
I know the coach would be a member.

Q. Now, has the Board given instruction to the prin­
cipals of the schools or the coaches and directed them to 
take some steps toward desegregating or toward merging 
these two athletic associations? A. No; no, we felt that 
that is not in our field.

Q. Do you, as superintendent, and as you interpret this 
court’s order, does the athletic—is the athletic program 
included as one of the items to be— A. It is, as I under­
stand it, within that school, which we have carried out.



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Q. You mean within the individual school? A. We 
have had Negroes to go out for football at Lanier.

Q. But you don’t understand, or do you understand, the 
court order to mean that it goes further than once you get 
into school being able to participate in all of the activities ? 
A. Well, we—we allow them to participate in all the ac-

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tivities of that school—
Q. Tell me, sir— A. —and we had—we had one game 

this year when there was six members of the colored race 
on an opposing team from Tuscaloosa that we played.

Q. Now, that school that you played was a school— 
predominantly white school? A. I don’t know; that foot­
ball team at that moment was predominantly colored.

Q. What school was it? A. Tuscaloosa.
Q. Sir? A. Tuscaloosa High School.
Q. You are familiar with Tuscaloosa High School, aren’t 

you? A. Yes, sir.
Q. And you know that that is a predominantly white 

school? A. It has rather sizable number of Negroes.
Q. What—  A. I would imagine more white; sure.
Q. Let me ask you, has Lanier, to your knowledge, ever 

played Carver? A. No; they haven’t played Carver.
Q. Has Lanier played Lee? A. Yes.
Q. Has Lee played Carver? A. No.

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Q. Is there any plan, so far as you know, for Lee to 
play Carver? A. Not that I know of.

Q. Or Lee to play Jeff Davis? A. Not that I know of.
Q. Aren’t you, or are you, familiar with the fact that 

the coach, the newly appointed coach, of Jeff Davis has 
indicated in the next couple of years they will probably 
play Lanier and Lee? A. I saw that in the paper; yes.



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Q. That’s right; did yon—have you seen that they will 
also play Carver and Booker Washington! A. I haven’t 
seen that.

Q. Now, let me ask you this; I believe, sir, you testified 
that the five persons who have been employed to go to the 
new school, Book—I mean Jefferson Davis High School, 
are all white persons; is that correct! A. That is correct.

Q. Now, did they, all except one, I think that was the 
band—proposed band director, did they all come from 
schools that were predominantly white schools! A. Yes.

Q. Has the Board considered employing any Negro at 
any—in any administrative position at Jefferson Davis 
High School! A. There won’t be but one administrative 
position.

Q. Well, administrative or semi-administrative! A. 
Well, teachers; we are going to have plenty of teachers 
there.

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Q. You saying you are going to have plenty of Negro 
teachers at Jefferson Davis High School! A. Yes, sir; 
we are going to have some Negro teachers; we have been 
planning that all along.

Q. Plenty of them! A. We are going to have some.
Q. In your opinion, how many Negro teachers do you 

contemplate having at this school! A. I would say around 
seven.

Q. Seven out of probably forty, I think in your deposi­
tion— A. Well, that would be the most, if it—if it—it 
is somewhere between thirty and forty, I would say.

Q. Now, approximately how many of these seven are 
going to be floating teachers! A. I don’t know that; we 
may not have any floating teachers—by floating teacher, 
I don’t know what you mean. What we mean is a teacher



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that doesn’t have a permanent room ; she teaches in this 
room when this teacher has an off period, and she moves 
to the next room when the next teacher has an off period; 
there may be some of those, but it won’t be necessarily 
whether it be colored or white.

Q. No, I was thinking about something like your speech 
therapist in your elementary school, they teach here and 
then they go to the other school. A. No; there won’t be 
any of this.

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Q. I think in your deposition, sir, you mentioned that 
the funds for the athletic program of all schools, includ­
ing the new school, must be raised; is that correct; and 
it is not provided by the Board! A. That applies to 
new and old.

Q. Yes, sir. Do you know what steps has been made 
toward raising funds for the band uniform and—and the 
athletic equipment for Jefferson Davis High School! A. 
I know nothing except what I have read in the paper, be­
cause that is a matter we leave in the hands of the prin­
cipals or the band director and the coaches, and either 
through gate receipts and borrowing the money and pay­
ing it back later.

Q. Are you familiar with a meeting of persons from 
Montgomery at the Governor’s House Motel where they 
met for the purpose of raising some funds for the new 
school! A. First I knew of it, I read it in the paper.

Q. It has been called to your attention! A. I saw it 
in the paper; yes.

Q. Do you know whether any Negroes were invited to 
that meeting! A. I could not say; I was not there.

Q. Do you know whether—has there not been additional 
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and advised about meetings of the new Jefferson Davis 
High School? A. I am sure they have; there usually al­
ways is when we open a new school, they will get up money 
for things that the Board can’t provide.

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Q. Do you know whether any of these persons or any 

Negroes have been contacted or invited to participate? 
A. I do not know.

Q. Did you, in giving your instructions to your new 
principal, tell him that, “ The school is going to be open, 
and all of your planning phases, we would like for all 
members of the community to be a part of it, including 
Negroes” ; did you so advise him? A. We advised him 
and gave him—he has a copy of the court order that this— 
and we told him at this time that this faculty would be 
integrated.

Q. I am not asking you, sir, about the faculty; I am 
asking you whether you informed the coach—I mean the— 
A. We told him that his student body would be made up 
of freedom of choice and that he would know about it at 
the end of March.

Q. But did you inform him that in the planning stage 
where you were going to the people of the community, to 
invite some Negroes, too, to participate in the planning? 
A. I am sure that he—we—we left that up to him; we 
do not instruct him.

Q. You didn’t give him any instructions about it? A. 
No, sir.

Q. All right; let’s talk a moment, sir, about your coach. 
At the time you employed the coach for the new school, 
did you advise him that he should consider playing some 
formerly all Negro schools? A. No, sir.



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Q. Did you advise him that if he saw fit, so far as try­
ing to get Ms team together, to—to consider Negroes? A. 
You mean Negro schools or Negro players?

Q. Negro players. A. We told him he would—anybody 
that went to Jefferson Davis School would—could go out 
for football.

Q. I am saying, did you particularly say anything to 
him about the racial problem because this is a problem? 
A. Well, he has been at Lanier; he knows all that this— 
he has been at Lanier, the new coach has been right there 
at Lanier during all this time.

Q. You saying you didn’t tell him anything about it? 
A. We also told him that we could not solicit any players 
to exercise the freedom of choice and gave him a copy of 
the court order, that particular section about no official 
will have any influence on the choice a student makes in 
the schools they attend.

Q. Are you, sir, familiar with what has been reported 
in the newspaper that the city of Montgomery has been 
divided into three zones so far as eligibility of athletes 
going to Jefferson Davis? A. I have not heard that at all.

Q. Did you—you didn’t read that in the paper? A. If 
I did, the paper was in error, if it was in the paper; I did 
not read it, but if it was in the paper, it was in error.

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Q. Do you recall anything at all or have you discussed 
anything at all about the eligibility— A. Yes.

Q. —of— of— of—of—of students who will attend Jeffer­
son Davis High School so far as being on the team is 
concerned? A. Yes; we have discussed that.

Q. You discussed that? A. (Nodded to indicate affirma­
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Q. And wasn’t something said in that discussion that 
if the students who were going to Jefferson Davis lived 
in a certain area—and there are zones of this—that was 
nearest to Jefferson Davis High School— A. It is not 
a zone.

Q. Well, let’s—let’s call it whatever you want; there 
was some geographical area that if the student lives in 
that area and wanted to go to Jefferson Davis, then he 
would he eligible to play on the team the first year ? A. 
According to the Alabama High School Athletic Associa­
tion, if he had attended Lee or Lanier, which are members 
of that association, he could not play at the new school 
the next year unless he lived closer to the new school than 
he did to the one that he was presently attending.

The Court: You mean the Alabama Athletic
Association has the right to determine who is eligi­
ble to participate in school activities—

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Witness : They have the right—
The Court: —in the Montgomery schools'?
Witness: They have the right in the athletics.
The Court: Who gives them that right?
Witness: Well, of course, it is a body of coaches, 

and I am not sure whether the principals are mem­
bers. They say you got to make a certain grade to 
play; if you make under a certain grade, you can’t 
play. I f you are over a certain age, you can’t play, 
or if you—we had down at Earner this year, our— 
that team had a bad year up until this year, and 
it won nearly all the games, but they got thrown 
out because they played a boy that has been play­
ing five years, and they can’t play him but four 
years. That is the land of regulations they have.



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The Court: How do they penalize the school that 
doesn’t adhere to their rules?

Witness: Well, they forfeit all their games.
The Court: Throw you out of the association, 

and they won’t let you play any other team that 
belongs to the association; isn’t that it?

Witness: I believe that is correct; yes, sir.
The Court: Well, maybe they ought to be a party 

in this lawsuit.
Mr. Gray: Yes, sir.
The Court: If they have that much authority over 

the operation of the schools in the athletic program.
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Witness: Now, in this matter, we had explained—
The Court: I gather it is authority that is just 

granted to them by the schools, themselves, though. 
Maybe they shouldn’t have any standing in the law­
suit at all. I don’t know. That just seems like it 
flies in the face of certain provisions in this court 
order for these schools to continue to belong to an 
association that is organized and operated strictly 
according to racial lines and the schools get penal­
ized for playing schools that don’t belong to an 
association that is predominantly of the same race; 
and at this point, I hold the school authorities 
responsible for seeing that it doesn’t happen. I will 
go into that more in the order that I enter in the 
case.

Q. Do you know, sir, when this regulation was passed 
by the Athletic Association? I am sure it would have to 
have been passed after there was some question about the 
membership of the new schools in the association. A. As



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1 understand their rule prior to this was that if you 
started in a high school in a city, then you had to play 
out your eligibility in that high school, and, of course, 
there is always a lot of problems, pressure, about one 
group trying to get the boy to leave this high school and 
go to the other one. Of course, I know that is what they 
are trying to attempt; they are not trying to work on 
this other, I don’t think, but in this particular case, I think 
they had maybe one other opening school, and they had 
an old rule that if he lived in that district, you could go

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there, but now, they just—they made that rule, I think it 
was a month or so ago; I am not sure exactly how long.

Q. Now, let me ask this; is the Jefferson Davis High 
School already a member of the association! A. It is my 
understanding it is not.

Q. It is not a member; but it is governed by its rules 
and regulations? A. It is—it has—they have discussed 
being a member, and am sure they plan to be a member.

The Court: Of the white or Negro?
Witness: The Alabama—it is the white.
The Court: Well, why did they select the white 

before the students selected the school?
Witness: Well, they haven’t actually selected it 

yet.
The Court: That brings me to another question; 

why do you select all white coaches before the stu­
dents select the school?

Witness: Well, as was mentioned, one of the 
hardest jobs that we have in athletics is to raise 
the money to keep it going. We felt first that Mr. 
Livings who had coached on the Lanier staff for a 
good many years—



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The Court: Why didn’t you select a Negro assist­
ant coach or maybe two?

Witness: We felt, Judge, that in this transition, 
we tried to work on this thing—

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The Court: I have gone along with this transition 
business for a good long while, but we have passed 
the transition period.

Witness: I understand that, but we felt that 
it would be better not to have them on athletics to 
start with and that we would—we plan to put—

The Court: This is not a new school system; this 
is just an addition to an existing school system that 
has been under an injunction for several years—

Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: —to eliminate the dual school sys­

tem. I am concerned about the conduct of the Board 
in permitting this to happen while they are under 
a court injunction.

Witness: Well, Judge, I—if I may say this, 
we have had a—a lot of problems we have had. 
Now, there is about thirty-two that have crossed 
over. We have had to put real close supervision; 
we had police protection for several weeks; we have 
gone in there and watched it, and we plan to start 
next year to desegregate all of the faculties in the 
city.

The Court: W7e are going to do that.
Witness: We want to do it peaceably, and I know 

you want it done that way, and where it will not 
be—

The Court: We are going further than that, I 
think, Mr. McKee. We are going to desegregate



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some athletic programs, too, if they continue. Let’s 
go ahead.

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Mr. Gray: We have no further questions.
The Court: Go ahead.

Cross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Mr. McKee, in connection with this Athletic Associa­
tion, is that association, as you understand it, similar to, 
say, the Southeastern Conference, requirement to be a 
member of the Southeastern Conference or the Atlantic 
Coast Conference, the Pacific Coast Conference, or any 
other— Southwest Conference, or any other football con­
ference? A. It is similar to that; I don’t know its—all 
their rules, but they—they have rules of eligibility and 
grades and how many players you can have and various 
things of that type.

Q. Do you know what the constitution or the by-laws of 
that association consists o f ; you are not familiar with that, 
are you? A. No, sir; I am not.

Q. Is it your understanding that if a school is to play 
other teams that are in the conference, they must belong 
to that conference? A. That is my understanding.

The Court: Where do they get—where do they
get the authority to enforce this rule?

Mr. Robison: If the court please, I am not famil­
iar with the constitution and by-laws, but I guess it 
would be similar to Southeastern Conference, just 
like Georgia Tech withdrew from that and don’t 
belong to it; if they don’t abide by those conference

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They set up, as has been said, certain rules and 
regulations with respect to eligibility of the indivi­
dual players to play. It is my understanding, and 
we have only had an opportunity to briefly look into 
this, but it is my understanding, also, that there is 
no race restrictions within the association, of either 
association.

The Court: Well, why have rules ?
Mr. Robison: The question?
The Court: Why have two associations if there 

is not—
Mr. Robison: Well, that, sir, I am not prepared, 

as I say, to answer those questions.
The Court: I suppose we will have someone here 

from that association?
Mr. Gray: Executive Secretary is here, your 

honor.
Mr. Robison: Of both of those associations, if 

the court please.
The Court: All right; go ahead.

Q. Mr. McKee, insofar as recruiting players at the 
Jefferson Davis High School or at any oher high school 
in the system, do you know of any recruiting that goes 
on to influence the choice of a student with respect to the 
attendance at a school to play football there? A. I do 
not knoAv of any, and, of course, our people know that it 
is a violation both of the court order and of—a violation 
of the—either of the associations; I think both associations

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have the same rue in there about recruiting.
Q. To your knowledge, has any assignments or designa­

tion been made of any students to attend the new high



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school, either by the principal or you or any official of 
the school system? A. No, sir.

Q. Is Lee and Lanier and Booker Washington, Carver, 
and all the schools that are in the Montgomery County 
system, they are under this court order, of course, are they 
not? A. Sure.

Q. And they are playing football at the present time? 
A. Yes, sir; they play in the fall.

Q. Sir? A. In the fall.
Q. In the fall; all right. Now, Mr. McKee, I want to 

talk about transportation just a moment. Is transporta­
tion available in a given area for a child to have an op­
portunity to attend—any given area to attend a school 
either predominently white or predominently colored? A. 
In the county; yes.

Q. In the county in any given area? A. That is correct.
Q. By choice, a child may be transported to a school of 

either race if they live within a given area? A. That is 
correct.

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Q. All right, sir. Now, in sending out the choice forms, 
did you designate last year the schools that were being 
transported or area that were transported? A. We had 
an asterisk by all schools where there was any transporta­
tion from certain areas of the county, I believe is what 
the footnote says—

The Court: Let me interrupt you here: Now, on 
the new school, the Jefferson Davis School, will 
that also apply; will you give them an opportunity, 
say from Booker Washington to the Jefferson Davis 
School?

Witness: We had not planned to have any trans­
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The Court: Well, do you have transportation at 
Lanier and Carver?

Witness: At Lanier and Carver.
The Court: And you have it at Washington and 

Lee?
Witness: No, sir; we have it at Lanier.
The Court: Why haven’t you planned to have it 

at Jeff Davis?
Witness: We had found that if you are going to 

try to go to four or five or six different schools, you 
are going to have the kids up so early in the morn­
ing to get there— they have to get up early enough 
as it is. At Lanier, we have this Vocational Agri­
culture unit which we figure a lot of the rural chil­
dren want access to and have chosen because it is 
there; it is the only one I know of that is in a city.

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Q. In setting up your transportation, Mr. McKee, have 

you done it in mind so as to permit any— still any child 
in the county exercising a freedom of choice, to be able 
to go to a school minority— of a minority race ? A. That 
is correct; and also, if he furnished his own transporta­
tion, he had the right to choose any other school if there 
was space available.

Q. What is the two-mile requirement with respect to 
transportation? A. The State will not reimburse you, or 
they don’t pay it all, but they pay part of the cost of 
transportation for pupils that live over two miles from a 
school.

Q. Do you provide any transportation in the city of 
Montgomery? A. There might be some in the fringes or 
certain areas that at one time was out of the county and 
m the city, there might be in—little bit in certain edges, 
but basically, not any to amount to anything.



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Q. And the two-mile area, if a child is within two miles 
of any given school, there is no allowance for transpor­
tation— A. That is correct.

Q. —is that correct? A. That is correct. In other 
wrords, if wre were a separate city and county school sys­
tem, like Jefferson County in Birmingham, we wouldn’t 
have any buses. We would just have Montgomery city 
system. I don’t think any of the city systems in Alabama

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have any buses, but we happen to be a combination, so 
we do for the county what the county school system would 
do, and try to do for the city what they do.

Q. In deciding which schools will be transported and 
which ones will not be a transported school, what factors 
do you take into consideration? A. Well, of course, we 
had taken into consideration space, and when possible, it’s 
_ w e — we have had Capitol Heights Elementary for a 
good many years, it has been a transported school; High­
land Gardens is a transported school, and Goode Street.

The Court: Are your four high schools trans­
ported schools?

Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: What would it require you to do if— 

if the court ordered you to provide transportation 
to Jefferson Davis on the same basis as you pro­
vided it for your four existing high schools?

Witness: Well, it would mean, Judge, that a bus 
coming up the Wetumpka Highway, if—from that 
area would be very hard to get over there. It 
wouldn’t present as much of a problem for the 
Carver or the Lanier thing, but it would present 
a problem of having another school to serve, taking



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part of them into one and then going on to another 
one.

The Court: Go ahead.
Witness: And getting tied up in all that traffic,

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and it is terriffic.
The Court: Go ahead. Go ahead.
Mr. Robison: Excuse me.

Q. You do not propose to transport any whites or colored 
or any children at all to the new school under the present 
plan? A. That is correct.

Q. By comparison, what is the size of the new school 
at Jefferson Davis as compared with Lee or Lanier? A. 
Well, the new school, as it is at present, about somewhere 
between eight hundred and a thousand, depending on the 
subjects that they chose.

Q. And as compared with Lanier and Lee, would it be 
much smaller or comparable— A. Much, much smaller.

Q. —to it? Now, in determining—after the freedom of 
choice period, in determining the eligibility for attendance 
to the Jefferson Davis High School or Lee or Lanier or 
Booker Washington or any others, if there is an over­
crowded condition, what is the only criteria that you use? 
A. When it is an overcrowded condition—

Q. Yes, sir. A. —is distance.
Q. Distance would be the only factor that you would use? 

A. Now, there is another point that I did not bring about 
the transportation; we have the feeling that there is going

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to be more space, and there are more white children in­
volved, there are many more white children in that area 
being transported than there are colored children, and



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that Lanier will more than likely have the space than would 
Jefferson Davis.

Q. Than would Jefferson Davis. A. See, it is a modern 
area which is pretty heavily populated with white people.

Q. Now, explain to me that, Mr. McKee, as to what you 
anticipate insofar as white vacancies or white children that 
will be transported to Lanier? A. Well, at present, there 
is some three hundred and fifty or more children trans­
ported to Lanier.

Q. And do you anticipate, with the opening of the new 
school, that it would affect materially the transported chil­
dren to Lee or Lanier—I mean to Lanier? A. My—my 
honest opinion is that they would be caught in being turned 
down when you apply the court order that says those 
that live the furthest away.

Q. Who would be caught, Mr.— A. All the bus chil­
dren if we were to send some bus children to Jeff Davis, 
because they would be the furthest away.

Q. They would be the furthest away. A. And I—

The Court: That is assuming that you have 
enough choices—

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Witness : Yes.
The Court: — to overcrowd that school?
Witness: I have a feeling with the new school 

there is going to be some choices—I mean going to 
be some people from all over town.

Q. Mr. McKee, in connection with choosing a new school, 
is the fact that it is a new school a faculty—a factor that 
would affect choices by anybody in the system to go to that 
school? A. I would think so. Especially tenth grade; it



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is going to have a great effect on them; I am expecting a 
much larger tenth grade than any of the rest of them. A 
few seniors may stay where they are, but I am expecting 
a heavy enrollment in the tenth and eleventh grade.

Q. Now, Mr. McKee, in paragraph four of the motion 
that the Government has tiled, this statement is made; 
“During the first grading period, defendants had approxi­
mately a hundred and fifty student teachers working in the 
Montgomery County system, none of whom were assigned 
to a position where their race -was in a minority.” Do you 
have any grading periods in—in student teachers? A. 
Well, that depends on the college that they attend; I pre­
sume they are talking about the time that they were 
there. Now, Alabama State is on a semester system, and 
they have some student teachers the first semester and 
some the second semester. Auburn is on a quarter system; 
they have some the first—fall quarter, the winter quarter, 
and the spring quarter. Troy is on a quarter system.

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Huntingdon is on the semester system. And, of course, 
we are doing this to help the colleges out. We would just 
as soon not have any student teachers, and sometimes we 
get so provoked with it that we think maybe we will quit 
fooling with it. But we know teachers have got to be 
trained, but it is a voluntary act on our part that we do, 
and we thought that starting off this fall, we had our hands 
full with the faculty changes, and then we started this 
modest change in student teachers; this second semester, 
we will probably—I don’t know, we haven’t seen the list 
yet, I haven’t, it may be in—but we will have some Auburn 
students coming in in the spring, we may transfer some 
of those.

Q. At this particular time, Mr. McKee, in the school 
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is this a very critical and crucial time in the school sys­
tem’s life to establish a— selected faculties? A. This is— 
this is a very critical time, because so many of our teachers 
that know today that they are going to resign, but they 
won’t tell us, both races, and we can get better teachers 
right now than we could any other time, but if we don’t 
have vacancies, we can’t go out and hire a six thousand 
dollar teacher when you don’t have a vacancy, so it is im­
portant now that—any vacancy that we do have that we 
be able to till it. Now, we are having a—still having—we 
have gotten a few more than I thought we would have 
been able to have gotten when we were in court before,

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white teachers to accept assignments in colored schools.

Q. Mr. McKee, are you also at this time visiting various 
colleges that—teachers’ colleges and the universities of the 
State in an effort to screen teachers or to select teach­
ers? A. In this area; we don’t go up in North Alabama, 
but in this area; yes.

Q. And is that going on at the present time? A. That 
is going on at the present time.

Q. Mr. McKee, have you canvassed your teachers at this 
time to determine as best you can whether or not they in­
tend to remain with the system? A. They have been sent 
a slip to sign; I believe it is to come back next week some­
time; some of them are already, but I think they have 
until the end of next week to make up their mind.

Q. As to whether or not they intend to remain with the 
system or to leave the system? A. That’s right; and if 
they say they are not, of course, we immediately try to 
fill that place. If they say they are not sure, you can’t do 
anything about it until they get sure.

Q. On September 22, a report was made to this court



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showing the faculty assignments at that time. Since then, 
since the filing of that report, what additional faculty de­
segregation has taken place? A. Well, at Lanier, the two 
student teachers have been added; at Lee, two student 
teachers have been added; and at Loveless, we have three

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white teachers—in fact, we hired four, but one of them 
quit, one of the white quit, and we replaced with a white, 
so actually, we have three there now, but we actually hired 
four teachers in that process to go to colored school. We 
have two white teachers at Paterson, and, of course, we 
have one more at Goode Street, and at Mac—it was really 
two more, because in our report to the court, we failed 
to count the principal which we had been counting in the 
others, and at McIntyre Junior High, we had two, but 
they were in there, I believe, when the court was there, 
Hayneville Road, one; and we have added a colored speech 
therapist that works in all schools, and then Mr. Garrett 
hired a white teacher to fill a place at Fews yesterday.

Q. And Fews is a—predominantly a colored school? A. 
Yes, sir. What we are—we have been working ever since 
school started that any vacancy that we had in the colored 
school, we have tried to fill it with a white teacher, and we 
have succeeded in every case except one. We was not able 
to fill that one. Then next year, we felt that we would 
start in the white school.

Q. What plans do you have insofar as desegregation of 
faculty is concerned in the next September system—semes­
ter? A. We plan to desegregate the faculties at all schools 
in the city. We did not—have not tried to put any colored 
teachers further in the white schools this spring, because 
we felt, c o m m u n i t y w i s e ,  i t  would be better to do that all 
at one time, that is, where every school—every white—



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former white school would have a colored teacher in it;
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then the community wouldn’t say we did this to them— 
did this to us and didn’t do it to them. We plan to start 
that; as soon as we get that, we plan to go around and 
just keep on until we get to where we have substantially 
desegregated faculties. We—we want to do it very care­
fully; we want those people in both races that transfer 
supervised very closely. Our supervisors are asked to stop 
by and visit those many times more than they do the other 
situation; they may not even be visited in that school; I 
have done it myself—if I pass one of these schools where 
we had faculty integration, I will go in there and watch 
in on those two rooms. We have tried to be so careful, 
that we not have an incident that cause a blowup here in 
Montgomery. Our school system is too important to us; 
it is too important to Montgomery. And we think that we 
are going to get this thing desegregated, and we are going 
to do it peaceably and keep our school system.

Q. Do you have any plans insofar as further faculty de­
segregation of the high schools? A. Yes; we plan to put 
others at high schools as vacancies and change arise. An­
other thing that we have done this year that I think has 
had a great effect and will help us in the future, we have 
had for a number of years what we call observation lessons 
where outstanding teachers will teach a lesson and other 
third grade teachers or other sixth grade teachers or other 
science teachers will come. This year, we have had those

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in both former white schools and in the colored schools. 
They have— sometimes they would have been taught by a 
colored teacher, sometimes by a white teacher. The audi­
ence or the teachers visiting these observations would be



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made up approximately fifty—or sixty-forty or fifty-fifty, 
somewhere in that neighborhood, there would be some of 
both races; then at the end of the lesson, they would meet 
together and discuss the good points and the bad points of 
the lesson. And that was done integrated.

Q. Is that what you would refer to as an in-service pro­
gram or instructional meeting? A. That is part of our 
in-service program; yes.

Q. Part of your instructional meetings? A. And we 
especially anxious to have some of our new teachers at 
that, because that gives them a chance to see a master 
teacher at work.

Q. With respect to the administrative council, what ac­
tion has been taken by this Board? A. It has been com­
pletely desegregated.

Q. And what is the administrative council? A. It is 
when matters come up that meetings of principals, super­
visors, and superintendents have to be held, it is held. 
We hold them either at Houston Hill School or at Lee 
High School.

Q. Is Houston Hill predominantly colored? A. Yes; it 
is.

Q. And Lanier predominantly white? A. Well, it is
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Lee High School.
Q. Lee predominently white? A. (Nodded to indicate 

affirmative reply).
Q. And those meetings are held at those two schools? 

A. (Nodded to indicate affirmative reply).
Q. What about your teacher institutes, Mr. McKee? A. 

They were completely desegregated.
Q. They have been completely desegregated? A. Mem­

bers of both races taking part on the programs of the 
institute.



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Q. Do you interview the teachers, Mr. McKee, or is 
that largely done by your associate? A. That is largely 
done by Mr. Garrett.

Q. Have you and Mr. Garrett discussed what would be 
said to these teachers that were being interviewed for em­
ployment with respect to the type of school system being 
operated in Montgomery? A. Yes, they have, and it is 
printed on the application blank, plus they are asked the 
additional question if they would accept a job, and Mr. 
Garrett has had the experience of some of them saying 
they would, and then when you offered them the job, they 
would say, “Well, I will let you know tomorrow,” and they 
would go home, maybe talk to their husband, and some 
other people, and come back and say, “ I can’t take it.”

Q. Have you all taken affirmative action to encourage 
faculty desegregation and, in the interviewing of pros-

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pective teachers, to encourage them to take assignments 
in schools where the opposite race is a majority? A. We 
have, and Mr. Garrett reports to me that in their visits 
to two of the colleges, they have some students that say 
that they will accept this, and we are going to certainly give 
them a chance to see if they meant it.

Q. What changes have been made to desegregate the 
student training program since the court order?

The Court: May I ask at this point, has your 
faculty assignment been on the basis of whether the 
teachers would agree to it or not up to this point?

AVitness: Up to this point, and we hope, Judge, 
that we can keep it that way, because regardless, if 
it wasn’t a racial problem, when you make some­
body change to go somewhere to work that he is



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not happy about, he is not going to do a very good 
job.

The Court: Have you read the orders—
Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: —the courts have entered in these 

other cases that say that—
Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: —that you cannot rely on voluntari­

ness, it must be by assignment to accomplish the 
purpose of faculty desegregation?

Witness: I have read it, but I don’t believe that 
that would keep the teacher from quitting.

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The Court: Well, if your teacher is not willing to 
teach in any school, and he is prejudiced to that 
point, you don’t want that teacher in the system, do 
you, you are operating?

Witness: "We have so many; we have so many.
The Court: Maybe this would be a good oppor­

tunity to get rid of them. Let’s go ahead; let’s go 
ahead.

Q. Mr. McKee, do you realize that the Board has the 
authority to assign a teacher to any school? A. We have 
the authority to assign them; yes.

Q. You also, as the Judge has asked you, realize that the 
assignments under the court order can be made irrespec­
tive of the desire of the teacher to teach in that school? A. 
That is correct; but I would hate for my child to be in a 
room with a teacher that did not want to be in that school.

Q. In the canvassing of your present teachers or in the 
interviews with present teachers and with the prospective 
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though they might not desire it, would accept a transfer? 
A. Yes; we have tried to determine that.

Q. Mr. McKee, have you solicited any funds or any per­
sonnel to raise funds in connection with the opening of the 
new school—high school? A. We have—we have hired the 
people, but we have not given them direction; they know 
that—they have been told that there would be no Board 
of Education funds for athletic equipment, band uniforms,

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and things of that type; there would be funds for library 
hooks, there would be funds for desks and teaching ma­
terials of that type.

Q. Does the Board of Education provide any funds for 
football uniforms or football equipment or basketball equip­
ment or band equipment? A. No. That—those are what 
we call extracurricular activities; no child has to partici­
pate in them; it is purely a voluntary program.

Q. Mr. McKee, do you realize that under this court order, 
you have an affirmative duty to take positive action to de­
segregate not only the school students, but the faculty? A. 
Yes, sir.

Q. Have you attempted to carry out that order as best 
you were able and maintain a school system? A. We cer­
tainly have.

Q. Will you continue— A. We will continue—
Q- — to be—continue to be aware of that affirmative duty 

and take further positive action to desegregate the staff, 
faculty, and student body? A. We certainly will.

Mr. Robison: I believe that’s all.
The Court: Redirect, Mr. Allen?
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Redirect Examination by Mr. Allen:

Q. You testified that all the schools—all of the high 
schools in the city are presently member—members of the 
—one of the two Athletic Associations; is that right? A. 
I think they are; yeah.

Q. And all the white schools are members of the white 
Athletic Association, and all the Negro schools are mem­
bers of the Negro; is that correct? A. I think that is 
correct, yes, sir.

Q. And you have always permitted this? A. Yes; we 
have permitted it.

Q. Have you taken any steps to change it? A. No; I 
didn’t—I didn’t interpret the court order as about the 
Athletic Association.

Q. Now, you leave the scheduling of athletic contests up 
to the individual schools; is that right? A. Usually, it is 
—it is a mutual thing between the two schools that are 
going to play each other.

Q. Right; and the people who actually arrange the sched­
ules are the principals and/or the coach? A. That is cor­
rect.

Q. Right; and they are employees of your school system? 
A. That is correct.

Q. Now, just one thing about this two-mile rule; I  be-
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lieve the minimum program rules of the State of Alabama 
provide you with transportation money for those pupils 
who are transported, who are actually transported, who 
live a—greater than two miles from the school; is that 
correct? A. That is correct. I believe.

Q. It is not based on whether they live in or out of the

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city; you get the money if they—  A. Yes; but the point I 
made earlier, they don’t give us enough money, so we don’t 
feel that we can do it except in the rural area.

Q. Right; but it is— A. We could get some money to­
ward it if we—but we wouldn’t get all of it.

Q. Right; but they would count a student as a trans­
ported student— A. Two miles is all it says in there.

Q. That’s right; even if he lived within the city? A. 
That is correct.

Q. Okay. A. But the Montgomery system could not af­
ford to transport it on that kind of a basis—

Q. No. A. —not forty thousand kids.
Q. Does the Montgomery County system— A. Not that 

many would be two miles.
Q. Does the Montgomery County system operate solely

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with the minimum program funds? A. Well, we—we have 
several mills of property tax and one cent gasoline tax, 
and we get some federal funds; much of it is earmarked 
for special programs.

Q. But you do put a substantial portion of local funds 
into the school system? A. Well, I won’t say substantial 
what we put, I guess about twenty-five—twenty or twenty- 
five per cent, we don’t—we ought to have a lot more local 
funds than we have, but the last two elections, we tried 
to get the people to vote more taxes, and we were not 
successful.

Q. Do you hire teachers in excess of those allotted to you 
by the minimum program? A. A  few; yes.

Q. Now, you testified that Jeff Davis would be probably 
much smaller than Lee and Lanier; would it also—what 
would the size be with relationship to Booker and Wash­



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ington—Washington and Carver? A. Carver is larger, 
and Booker Washington would probably—Booker Washing­
ton running around eight, eight fifty, nine; Carver is thir­
teen or fourteen hundred at the present time.

Q. Are the four existing high schools in the city now 
overcrowded by your standards? A. Yes; I would like to 
have a little more space in all four of them.

Q. What was the reason for building additions to Carver
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High School, rather than making a larger school at Jeff 
Davis? A. The main reason there, we were building an 
auditorium which we had not—and we were building an 
auditorium, and while we were building the auditorium, 
it has a band room, and when we were approved for the 
R.O.T.C. unit, we put the riflle range and the R.O.T.C. 
room under the stage, it was a very convenient place to 
put it, and I believe there is a choral room, so actually, 
there is not much more teaching room there.

Q. Didn’t you testify at your deposition that these addi­
tions out there, although they were not classrooms per se, 
would give you a—would be— A. Oh, yes.

Q. —give you a lot more room? A. You take the space 
where you were that you have—

Q. Right. A. —but the space in one or two of those 
places where they were, like at Lanier and at Carver, there 
is not a very good space, so that probably would he used 
for something else now than teaching.

Q. Just one other thing about the grading period; you 
do have a grading—in other words, your school system? 
A. Yeah; we send report cards out every six weeks.

Q. And you also have two principal grading systems, 
one semester—first semester and the second semester? A.



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Well, it doesn’t—really doesn’t mean mnch; we give ont 
report cards every six weeks.

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Q. When you testified at your deposition that you had 
about a hundred and fifty student teachers during the first 
grading period or the first semester, what does first semes­
ter mean, your first semester? A. The student teachers 
go by what their colleges had; Alabama State goes on 
semesters, and they will send us some student teachers 
at the beginning of their second semester. Auburn will 
send us student teachers at the end or the beginning of 
each of their new quarters, which may be even in the 
middle of a grading period of ours. Troy does the same 
thing. Huntingdon has semesters. Now, Huntingdon 
semester may be at a different date than Alabama State.

Q. Well, I understand that; but I am trying to establish 
measurement; when we say a hundred and fifty student 
teachers during a semester, we are talking about your 
semester, not the college’s semester; now, is that—is that 
correct? A. Well, we have four, and I would think it 
would—there would be somewhere—I just don’t know for 
sure how many there would be during this last semester, 
because Auburn hasn’t sent theirs in for the last quarter, 
see, theirs haven’t come in yet.

Q. Who is in charge of getting out the publicity for the 
new Jeff Davis High School? A. Nobody; they— the 
papers have been calling us; they want publicity on any 
kind of new school here; they just run us crazy asking when 
we are going to announce the coaches, when we are going

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to announce the school zones; we told the papers we did 
not have any school zones, we had freedom of choice; and



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just about every day they call up, “ When you going to 
do this?”—write a story of Jeff Davis. I see you have two 
or three in there.

Q. Do they get their stories from you or— A. They get 
some; not the one about the thing—about the Governor’s 
House. They got a little information from me one time 
about when they had a picture of the building, but as far 
as the athletic program and that, they have not called me 
on that.

Mr. Allen: I have no further questions.
The Court: Mr. Gray?

By Mr. Gray:

Q. I think, sir, you mentioned that about the choice forms 
and on these choice forms there was indication about 
transportation; do you have available a copy of the choice 
form for the school year ’67-68? A. No; I was not asked 
to bring one; I don’t have it.

Q. You don’t—you don’t have one? A. It is just an 
alphabetical list of the schools and the address of the 
schools, with an asterisk by any that have transportation 
from certain areas of the county.

Q. Could you make a copy available for us ? A. Oh, sure; 
we got plenty of them.

Mr. Gray: I think it would help the court, your
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honor, with leave of the court.
Witness: We have not made one for next year—
Mr. Gray: I understand.
Witness: —but we got one of last year’s.
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exactly what it provides, I think if the court had a 
copy of the choice form for last year, it would help.

Witness: It is patterned right after the form of 
the court.

The Court: All right; if there isn’t one now avail­
able, you may obtain one during the noon recess; 
that will be all right.

Witness: All right.
Mr. Gray: All right, sir; and we would like to at 

that time introduce it.
The Court: Go ahead.

Q. At the present time, are there any Negro teachers 
teaching on the elementary level in formerly white schools? 
A. No; we—we only desegregated the four senior high 
schools, started in the high schools, and then, as I said 
earlier, we started desegregating in the colored elementary 
schools, because we were able to find some white teachers 
that would take it; we have not found any serious objec­
tion from the colored communities. We have decided we 
would wait until next fall to start the desegregation of the 
rest of the city schools, and we could do all of it at once.

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Q. And no Negro junior high school teachers in former 

white schools ? A. Nothing but the two senior high schools.
Q. Now, you testified about the observation schools that 

you had; now, were there any Negro teachers conducting 
observations in white elementary, junior high schools? A. 
No, they do their teaching of their own children, and the 
people come to visit them; I was at Carver this week when 
they had a demonstration there of a science demonstra­
tion— see, they are teaching their own children.

Q. Oh, and the teachers come in? A. The teachers come 
and visit.



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Q. Now, have Negro teachers been invited to white ele­
mentary schools? A. Yes, sir; yes, sir; every one we have 
ever had, high schools, junior high, senior high, have been 
approximately fifty-fifty, sixty-forty, white and colored 
teachers—

Q. All right. A. —and approximately the same num­
ber of colored teachers have taught demonstrations as white 
teachers.

Q. I think one final question, sir; how was the name, 
Jefferson Davis, selected for the new high school? A. All 
—every request that I had—the only two requests that we 
had for names—and there was only one other one, the 
other one was Hank Williams, only two, everybody agreed 
Hank Williams—in fact, some of the kids nicknamed it the

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Green Lantern High School—
Q. I have no— A. — only official requests we had were 

those two.
Q. Who made the requests; are you saying this just was 

a community request? A. Well, we had letters and we had 
telephone calls and things like that.

Mr. Gray: I have no further questions.

A. Just individuals; it wasn’t any groups that I know of.

The Court: Mr. Robison ?
Mr. Robison: We have no further.
The Court: Do you have anything further?
Mr. Allen: No, your honor.
The Court: What is the—what is your student 

population this year in your Montgomery system, 
Mr. McKee?



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Witness: Approximately forty thousand, not
quite.

The Court: And what percentage of that is
Negro?

Witness: About sixty-forty. However, this year, 
Judge, we have lost four hundred students, and usu­
ally we have been gaining from four to six hundred 
each year. I think there was some dropoff because 
of not knowing about assignments of faculty.

The Court: All right.
Mr. Gray: Just one other thing, your honor, if 

I may inquire, it will just take me one or two ques­
tions.

By Mr. Gray:

Q. You have a night educational program, don’t you?
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A. Yes.
Q. At Lanier, Carver, Booker Washington— A. And 

Lee.
Q. —and Lee? Now, are there any Negro teachers teach­

ing at the predominantly white schools at night? A. I 
don’t believe there are.

Q. And are any— A. There might have been one quar­
ter, I am not sure, I don’t—

Q. —any white teachers teaching at night at your pre­
dominantly Negro schools? A. There could have been; I 
am not sure—

Mr. Gray: That’s all.

A. —but it is open to anybody, and they have—all the 
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Q. I was talking about faculty? A. I don’t think there 
has.

Q. So nothing has been done to desegregate the faculty 
in your night schools, and these are special federal pro­
grams, are they not? A. Yes; but—

Q. With special— A. — they have been made up largely 
of the faculty within that school.

Mr. Gray: I have no further questions.
The Court: Anything else from this -witness?
Mr. Allen: Your Honor, I have no further ques-

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tions, but I would like to state Mr. Robison has 
agreed that we will keep the record open to fur­
nishing—so that we can furnish any additional docu­
ments which we need to identify the race of the sub­
stitute teachers listed on Exhibit, 33, which is the 
principals’ weekly reports.

The Court: How long have you gentlemen agreed 
to keep the record open?

Mr. Robison: I f the court please, it was at his 
request yesterday, rather than make the copies, he 
served this on us, I believe, around three o’clock, 
wasn’t it, Quaintance? And at that time, he wanted 
permission—as far as we are concerned, it is all 
right to make copies of these records; we have no 
objection to that. We just want our original records 
back.

Mr. Quaintance: Your honor, if it please the court, 
we had subpoenaed the application forms for sub­
stitute teachers, and Mr. Robison said that was a 
burden; I said if the court would agree, and if they 
would agree, we would agree not to require them to



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answer that subpoena as far as those applications 
were concerned, because we might be able to estab­
lish race from these—from the substitute teacher 
lists from the prior years, and that was the extent 
of our agreement.

Mr. Eobison: We will be glad to make them avail­
able to him for copying.

The Court: All right; not less than ten days from 
today.

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Mr. Allen: Yes, your honor.
The Court: If you are going to do it.
Mr. Allen: It will be less than that.
The Court: Anything else from this witness!
Mr. Allen: No.
The Court: All right, Mr. Lassiter; let’s take a ten 

minute recess, please.

(At which time, 11:18 a.m., a recess was had until 
11:27 a.m., at which time the hearing continued)

The Court: All right, Mr. Allen; call your next 
witness, please.

Mr. Allen: Mr. Garrett, W. S. Garrett.

W illiam  S. Garrett, witness for the United States, hav­
ing been duly sworn, testified as follows :

Direct Examination by Mr. Allen:

Q. Would you state your name, please, sir? A. William 
S. Garrett.

Q. What is your occupation? A. I am associate super­
intendent of the Montgomery Public Schools.



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Q. Would you describe generally your duties as asso­
ciate superintendent?

The Court: We have already taken all that evi­
dence ; I am familiar with that.

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Q. Do you interview or do most of the interviews for 

teachers, new teachers, who are hired? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you ask them whether or not they would be willing 

to accept assignment to a position where their race is in 
the minority? A. For the last year and a half or so; yes. 
Most of them, I wouldn’t say one hundred per cent, hut 
the large majority of them, we d o ; yes.

Q. You don’t ask all of them? A. Well, I would—I 
couldn’t say that out of seeing fifteen hundred people, 
maybe, that I asked every last one of them that, but it is 
my intention to ask them that during the course of the 
interview, and we usually try to make notes on the ap­
plication, their reaction.

Q. I will show you Government—a document marked as 
Government’s Exhibit 2, the application for Edith Spring 
Marks, it states on there, “ Would not accept integrated 
faculty” ? A. Right.

Q. Did you write that on there? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you write something similar to that on each ap­

plication? A. I try to do it ; yes.
Q. Xow, Government’s Exhibit— A. Now, in some 

cases, where, for instance, we have gone to colleges to 
contact these people, that would have been—that answer or

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that reaction would have been written on a sheet of paper 
in a notebook rather than on the application, because we 
give them the application at that time to send in later.



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So I wouldn’t say that it is written on every application, 
but we try to get a reaction from every applicant; yes.

Q. If the applicant says no, they would not accept, what 
do you do then ? A. What do I do ?

Q. Right; what do you do with them? A. Well, some­
times I place them, sometimes I don’t.

Q. Now, Government’s Exhibit 2 through 32 that we 
have previously identified are teachers which have been 
hired since— A. Right.

Q. — September 1; and did you interview each one of 
those teachers? A. Yes.

Q. And of those who said that they would not accept 
a desegregated assignment, you did not place them in a— 
in a desegregated situation? A. That is correct.

Q. All right. A. Because these were new people, they 
applied for a job ; they don’t have to accept a job. We are 
in the market competing with other school systems for 
teachers; if we hired only those that said, “ I will accept 
a desegregated situation,” then at this particular moment, 
we would soon he out of business.

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Q. At the time you hired these thirty-one teachers, you 

had other applications on file, did you not? A. Right; they 
were considered among others; yes.

Q. About how many other applications did you have on 
file? A. Oh, of teachers that are actually available, I 
couldn’t say.

Q. Well, could you give an estimate? A. Well, maybe 
as many as fifty or seventy-five, but not necessarily in par­
ticular subject matter area or specialty that was needed.

Q. All right. A. We might have, say, a surplus of art 
teachers, three or four or five, six art teachers and no 
vacancies, and might have one science opening and not have 
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Q. Now, you were present at the taking of Dr. McKee’s 
deposition, were you not? A. Yes, sir.

Q. And at that time, we brought together a group of 
applications for students—or for teachers who had applied 
to your system since September 1— A. Right.

Q. —who were not hired— A. (Nodded to indicate af­
firmative reply)

Q. —and you had—did you compile—count those and 
compile those ? A. There was somebody in the office did it ; 
I don’t remember precisely how many there were; I am 
sure it is in the deposition, probably, but as I pointed out,

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most of those are for teachers who will be available next 
year, not now, not this year.

Q. And this fifty or so that you just mentioned, that 
is in addition to those, are people in addition to those who 
applied for a position next year; is that right? A. Well, 
if you are talking about total teacher applications, I imagine 
that we have maybe from fifty to seventy-five who would 
actually be qualified and be currently available. Now, they 
might be perfectly available next year, but I can’t hire them 
today if I need them if they are not going to be available 
until next year; many of these people are teaching in other 
school systems.

Q. But you had those available at the time you hired 
these thirty-one teachers? A. Well, I had them—the ap­
plications ; they were not necessarily all available is what 
I am trying to get over to you. Most of them were not 
available, of the ones you looked at, as I pointed out, most 
of them were not finishing college until May of ’68, and 
consequently would not be available to teach until next fall.

Q. Did you interview Mrs. Louise E. Jackson? A. Yes, 
sir.



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Q. I will hand you document marked as Government’s 
Exhibit 29; did you write this on it? A. I certainly did, 
and that is one of the reasons I selected her; I think she 
will make an excellent prospect next year to desegregate

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a school with, and that is what I have in mind—

Q. She— A. —to transfer her to a white school, pre­
viously white school.

Q. She is a Negro teacher— A. Yes, sir.
Q. —and she, this year, Avas assigned to Booker Wash­

ington? A. Bight.
Q. Which is an all Negro school? A. Right; and as Mr. 

McKee has already testified, we were not attempting, this 
school year, to get into the area of assigning colored ele­
mentary teachers into previously white elementary schools, 
because Ave wanted to do it all in one fell swoop next fall.

The Court: You categorize elementary school one 
to nine or one through nine ?

Witness: One to six.
The Court: One through six?
Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: And then the junior high—
Witness: Is seven to nine, and senior high, ten to 

twelve.
The Court: All right.

Q. I will noAv show you document previously identified 
as Government’s Exhibit 36, substitute teacher list. A. 
Yes, sir; now, this is this year’s substitute teacher list

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which, Judge, is alphabetized without regard to race. I 
could not, for the life of me, determine who is Avhite and



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who is colored. We interview these people; if they appear 
to—that they are available and would make good substi­
tute teachers, I send them in to my secretary, she has the 
health certificates and the other red tape connected with 
employment done, and they are placed on a master list 
and sent out to the principal. From time to time, additional 
lists are sent out in the same category alphabetized without 
regard to race.

Q. I will direct your attention to this notation by the 
name of Nina Rust Fraser, it says, “ Lanier and Lee” ; what 
does that mean? A. Now, we—you will run across that 
in many cases. We have some teachers, substitute teach­
ers, who, because of transportation, lack of transportation 
rather, family circumstances, sometimes small children, that 
will limit themselves to two or three surrounding schools, 
that is their only interest, that is the only place that they 
would be willing to teach. Therefore, we put that on there. 
Here is one up here that says, “ Retarded Children School” ; 
this lady is interested in substituting and will not substi­
tute anywhere except for the retarded school.

Q. That recpiires some kind of special training, doesn’t 
it? A. She has had the—Mrs. Camp is—has a—I believe 
a retarded child or related closely to a retarded—

Q. How about this one that says, “ Flowers only” ; does 
that mean she will only accept— A. That is the only ele-

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mentary school she will go to, is Flowers only. Of course, 
that limits the number of times she will be used. She 
might not be used hardly any because of that, but she may 
not have a car at all, but she could help at that one school 
and can’t help at any others; that is really not any regard 
to race.

Q. Do you see any reason why a teacher should be al­
lowed to limit herself to, say, Lee and Lanier and not teach



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at Carver? A. Yes, sir. Just like following your reason, 
I could see a lot of good reasons why this person ought 
to be allowed to limit herself to the retarded school only. 
Now, understand this; these are people who more or less 
volunteer to come in and serve as substitutes. We need 
them. And we take them for whatever number of schools 
they can teach or for whatever number of days they can 
help us with; they don’t have to help us at all.

Q. Have you given the principals any instructions as to 
calling teachers on a desegregated or nonracial basis? A. 
We handed them this list in an integrated meeting when all 
the principals and supervisors were available. If we didn’t 
actually give them the list at that time, we called it to their 
attention that it was coming out, and we told them that 
they were free to use anybody on that list that they could 
get to come on a given day. Now, a lot of times, a principal 
will call three or four different teachers on that list before 
they will get one whose family situation or whose bridge

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game schedule or whose beauty parlor schedule or club 
meeting schedule will permit them to work that day.

Q. Is that all the instructions you gave them, that they 
were free to use whoever they wanted to use? A. Right. 
There it is with as much qualification as we know how 
to put on a small sheet like that, and they were told to use 
any and everybody on there that they cared to use or that 
they could get. Many times not a question of what they 
care to use, but a question of who they can get that is 
available.

Q. What efforts did you make to insure that the princi­
pals were not discriminating in who they called? A. I 
cannot—and I just say this now—monitor fifty something 
schools and fifty something principals to see who they are



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calling for substitute work. These emergencies come up 
oftentimes at seven forty-five to eight o’clock in the morn­
ing; the teacher gets up in the morning, she thinks, “Well, 
I will go to school today.” She gets dressed, and maybe 
she’s got intestinal flu or something; at the very last min­
ute they will call. The principals struggle to get anybody 
there on time, and I cannot and don’t attempt to try to 
monitor this thing. Now, I have—just in routine visits 
around the schools, I have observed some teachers of the 
opposite race teaching or doing substitute teacher work, 
so there has been some of it going on.

Q. Do you have access to the principals’ weekly report 
that gives the name of the substitute teachers for that week

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on it? A. I could get them; yes.

Q. Do you ever make spot checks to see if there is any 
pattern on that particular person? A. No, I have not; I 
have many other duties other than this, and I have a small 
amount of help, just one secretary. Public school funds are 
limited, and we just do the best we can do, and I have made 
no attempt to try to monitor or enforce or to try to do this 
substitute calling, myself. It can’t be done; too big a scale.

Q. Prior to the 1967-68 school year, what was your pro­
cedure with regard to placing of student teachers? A. I 
don’t have anything to do with that.

Q. You don’t have anything to do with it? A. No, sir.
Q. Beginning the fall of 1967, you didn’t help in placing 

student teachers ? A. No, sir.
Q. How many teachers ultimately do you estimate will 

be assigned to the Jeff Davis School for 1967-68 school 
year? A. For this coming year?

Q. Yes, sir. A. Well, that is anybody’s guess. Depend­
ing on who chooses—how many chooses—whether or not—



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but I would say that I would certainly hope that not more 
than eight hundred choose; that would be an optimum num­
ber to open up school with. And consequently, you can

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divide twenty-five into that; that is the present pupil- 
teacher ratio for senior high school pupils; that would give 
you the number of teachers. What—that would be forty, 
wouldn’t it, if there were that many pupils? Now, this is 
rough; you have got to give or take a few teachers.

Q. How many teachers do you estimate you will have in 
minority situations this coming year? A. For the school 
system?

Q. Right; regular classroom teachers ? A. Well, we have 
about thirty-five now. We are going to attempt— our plan 
is to try to get at least one into every junior high and 
every elementary, and then start—once we accomplish that, 
start around with the second one and the third one and so 
on, rather than to have three in one school and none in 
another.

Q. Well, based on your— A. Roughly speaking, a mini­
mum of—with thirty-five already there, we have fifty 
schools or thereabouts; I would say about a hundred or 
better.

Q. Based on your— A. I think that is practical; I be­
lieve we can accomplish that.

Q. Based on your prior experience in hiring new teachers 
and placing new teachers, how many teachers do you esti­
mate that you will hire who will be new to the system this 
fall? A. Well, now, of course, that varies from year to 
year. It will depend on the number of resignations, num-

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ber of deaths, the number of retirements.

Q. Well, how many did you hire last year, approximately? 
A. I would assume maybe a hundred.



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Q. You will hire about a hundred new teachers this fall? 
A. Now, that—I don’t—by new, you mean replacements, I 
assume—

Q. Yes, sir? A. —new to us, but not added positions, 
but replacements?

Q. Yes, sir; right? A. I would say between now and 
next fall, perhaps a hundred.

The Court: And does that include the— the new 
teachers, too, or just replacements?

Witness: No, sir; I think that would be every­
body, Judge.

The Court: All right.
Witness: We are not growing in pupil-teacher— 

in overall numbers of pupils in our school system 
as we once were; a few years back, it took fifty addi­
tional teachers in addition to replacements for us to 
stay staffed, but that situation has stopped; we have 
leveled off, so it will be mostly replacements.

Q. As part of your duties, have you been given the re­
sponsibility, primarily, of carrying out faculty desegrega­
tion? A. Well, the superintendent has delegated the rec­
ommending of the best faculty members that I can come 
by, and desegregation is a large—our faculty is a large 
part of my responsibilities; not the only one, but that has

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been discussed and—with the Board and with the superin­
tendent, and we have a plan to accomplish this, have been 
working on it all the year.

Q. Well, under your plan, when do you estimate that 
faculty desegregation will be finally accomplished in terms 
of the objective of the court order removing— A. Well,



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now, that is something I don’t know, because I don’t know 
what the objectives of the court order are. That has never 
been laid down in any percentage fashion that I know of. 
It says that you will have reasonable desegregation of 
faculty and that you will strive toward having each faculty 
not recognizable as being staffed for a particular race. 
That is what I get out of it.

Q. Well, let— A. So I—I can’t—this court order is in 
fairly general terms; I can’t answer that question.

Q. Well, you made the statement about having schools 
staffed so that they will not be recognizable as for a par­
ticular race; when do you expect that that will be accom­
plished? A. Well, that would depend on what the Board’s 
definition of that is, of the court’s definition of that.

Q. Do you have a definition of that? A. Not at this 
point; we have discussed that many times, and I do not 
have a definition of—of what that would mean.

Q. No one has told you, given you a definition in terms 
of mechanics, in terms of numbers, none of your superiors?

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A. No; as far as I know, no other school personnel man 
in America has. I have talked to many of them. What we 
are striving to do is to make progress and keep going and 
hope that somewhere along the line we will have achieved 
the—what the court has in mind. But if you will look at 
that court order, you will see it doesn’t lay down the precise 
terms exactly what that means; it is a broad definition.

Mr. Allen: I have no further questions, your 
honor of this witness.

Mr. Gray: Mr. Garrett—
The Court: The court order requires at least one 

teacher or not less than two teachers in every school 
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Witness: (Nodded to indicate affirmative reply.)
The Court: — of a race opposite that of the ma­

jority of the students, doesn’t it?
Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: That is pretty precise, isn’t it?
Witness: Oh, yes, sir; but he was asking me about 

the ultimate, I thought.
The Court: All right; let’s go ahead.

By Mr. Gray:

Q. Tour honor—I mean Mr. Garrett, with respect to— 
you have heard testimony here this morning from Mr. 
McKee to the effect that there has been no attempt to have 
Negro teachers on the elementary school level in formerly

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white schools? A. Y es; yes.

Q. Now, was—is there and did you follow this rule, too, 
with respect to substitute teachers? A. No; we just pub­
lished a list on substitute teachers and sent them out to 
all principals.

Q. No communication was— A. They were told they 
were free to use anybody on this list.

The Court: I don’t believe that is sufficient at that 
point; I believe you had a duty and obligation, Mr. 
McKee and Mr. Garrett, to tell those principals that 
they are not to hire substitute teachers on the basis 
of race and not— and if you tell them they are free 
to hire anybody they want to, that is not sufficient; it 
is just not adequate at a ll; they are to select them 
without regard to race or color, and you are under 
a duty to tell them that, and you are under a duty to 
see they do it. So just to tell them they can hire any­



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body they want to is not sufficient at all; that is not 
compliance with the order. Let’s go ahead; that is 
just a minor point in this thing, but it’s—it is some­
thing that the order requires you to do, and it is evi­
dent that you are not doing it.

Witness: May I—
The Court: Sure.
Witness: —make a comment? I don’t know the 

race of these people on this list, and I don’t hardly 
see how a principal could. That was why I told them 
that. I mean, I thought we had a list that was fairly 
foolproof as to determining who was who.

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The Court: Well, I haven’t examined your list, 

but I just heard you identify it. You give their ad­
dresses, don’t you?

Witness: Yes, s ir ; but—
The Court: And you give other identifying data 

on that list, don’t you?
Witness: Like what?
The Court: Well, I don’t know; I haven’t seen it 

yet, but I just heard you identify it.
Witness: All in the world it has is a name and 

address and the number of years that they attended 
college, so they would know whether they were a 
college graduate or so on, and then the subject mat­
ter, area in which we think they are the most pro­
ficient.

The Court: Well, I take it all of your principals 
have, through the years, had experience in hiring 
substitute teachers ?

Witness: Calling them.



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The Court: Sure.
Witness: We do the hiring.
The Court: And they know, when they are called, 

if they have had experience in hiring them before, 
why they are calling, don’t they?

Witness: Well, now, the list changes from year 
to year.

The Court: I know, but if you have Jane Doe and
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Sarah Roe on there, and they have been substituting 
for several years, they know when they call Jane 
and Sarah who they are?

Witness: Oh,yeah.
The Court: Well then, you can’t tell them they 

can call anybody they want to ; you have to tell them 
they must call without regard to racial considera­
tions; that is the point I am making.

Witness: Sure.
The Court: It just violates the court order. Let’s 

go ahead. That is a minor point in this entire pic­
ture, but—

Mr. Cray: Yes, sir.

Q. One other minor area. A. All right.
Q. Mr. Garrett, I think you indicated that you do make 

notations on the application as to whether or not they will 
accept integrated situations; if they will, you assign them 
there. Now, I call your attention to the bottom— A. No, 
sir.

Q. —to the bottom of the first page of your—  A. I 
didn’t say that; I didn’t testify to that.

Q. Oh, I— A. I said I made a notation as to whether 
they would or would not at this moment accept a desegre­
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Q. All right.

The Court: Said he did that on most of them.

Witness: That’s right.
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Q. Then—  A. But I don’t necessarily hire them for 
that, because I may not have an opening at that point.

Q. I understand. There is a provision on your application 
which says at the bottom of the page, “ Pursuant to federal 
court orders, you are hereby notified that the Montgomery 
County School— Schools operate on a racially desegregated 
basis, and the members of its statf are subject to assignment 
in the best interests of the school system without regard 
to race or color of a particular employee” ; in view of this 
statement on your application, what then is the purpose 
for you going into this question of race with them? A. 
For the simple fact that we, of course, have been trying to 
actually promote with each person that we interview the 
idea of accepting an assignment in a minority situation.

Q. So it really serves no useful purpose, if you don’t 
abide by it? A. Yes, sir; it serves a very useful purpose, 
because it helps us in planning. I have had some applicants 
—well, some that I interviewed last week—that said, “Well, 
I would have no religious or moral or any other reasons for 
not accepting an assignment in a previously colored school, 
but I would prefer not to do it my first year”—

Q. Does— A. —“that I have got so many adjustments
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to make.” All right; I try to make a note of that, because 
I assume we are going to be in this for a good while. I make 
a note of that so that I will have that person tagged maybe 
for year after next. This is a continuous thing.



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Q. Does that provision on the application mean what it 
says ? A. Down at the bottom ?

Q. Yes, sir? A. We have legal authority—that has been 
testified to before; I -would assume that we have legal au­
thority to just up and transfer a teacher regardless of hex- 
wishes.

Q. I was talking about new employee, a new teacher, that 
is what we are talking about on the application? A. Well, 
now, a new teacher has to accept whatever you are going 
to offer her.

Q. That’s right. A. Right.
Q. And if she accepts what you offer when you have 

that statement on it, then it means by filing the application 
she or he is available to go anywhere you send them? A. 
No, sir.

The Court: You are getting off into an area of 
argument.

Mr. Gray: No, sir; I am through, your honor. 
Witness: No, sir; that is not what it means.
The Court: All right, Mr. Robison.

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Cross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Mr. Garrett, did you notify the principals of all the 
schools that race was not to be a factor in selecting substi­
tute teachers? A. Yes, sir; I am positive we made that 
statement—

Q. Did you—  A. —but—
Q. —at teachers’ meetings and other meetings— A. 

Other times.
Q. —notify the faculty or the principals that race was 

not to be a factor in the selection of substitute teachers;



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the principals, were they notified of that? A. As they 
call—

Q. As they call them? A. Yes; and not only that, we 
have discussed and furnished them with a copy of the 
court order.

Q. You have given to each principal a copy of the court 
order and then have instructed them that in the selection 
of substitute teachers, race was not to be a factor? A. Yes, 
sir.

Q. As a matter of fact, from your observations in visit­
ing certain schools in this system, have you seen substitute 
teachers of a minority race teaching in schools where the 
pupils were of a majority, opposite race? A. Yes, sir.

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Q. In the preparation of your last substitute list, Mr. 

Garrett, did you purposely leave off the school of graduation 
of these substitute teachers so that that would not be a 
means of identifying them as one race or another? A. 
Yes, sir; we did that.

Q. In the present substitute list that you are using this 
year, is the only information on there the name, address, 
telephone number, the graduate—the educational qualifica­
tions, and any preference that they might have as far as 
schools are concerned? A. Subject matter area at their 
grade levels that we think they are proficient in and a few 
limitations that they, themselves, can’t help, but in certain 
number of schools because of family situation, transporta­
tion, and so on.

Q. In the addresses that are located—show the location 
of some of these teachers, is it impossible to determine 
from the address the race of the substitute teacher? A. 
Well, definitely, there are many streets in Montgomery that 
one part of it there are white residents, and a few blocks



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later, there are colored residents. There are many of 
them that are across the street from each other. I, myself 
—and I have been in this business a long time—could not— 
and I would—am under oath—I could not go down that list 
and pick out a white and colored teacher to save my life.

Q. That is all of them; is that correct! A. I could pick
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out some, I think; yes, sir; but I certainly couldn’t pick 
them all out.

Q. All right. Now, in the substitute list as it is com­
piled, are there carry-overs from year to year on the sub­
stitute teachers’ list, or are new names added from time 
to time! A. About the middle of July, we call everybody 
that is on the present list and ask them if they would like 
to serve again. Some say no; some say yes. Those that 
say no are stricken o ff ; those that say yes, we fill out the 
additional information, health certificate, and all that, and 
we alphabetize that list along with the new ones that are 
interested and put out another list for the following year.

Q. Mr. Garrett, it has been—or you have been shown an 
application of a teacher that is presently employed where 
they say they will not accept assignment in a school of the 
opposite race; at the present time, do you have, to your 
knowledge, several teachers in this system that have said 
they would not at this time accept employment in a school 
where the children are of a race predominantly opposite 
from theirs, who have stated that after their first year or 
two years teaching in this system, would be willing to trans­
fer! A. Yes, sir.

Q. Do you have, in the course of your planning for fur­
ther faculty desegregation in Montgomery, have those stu­
dents— or those teachers with that information available 
to you for transfers at a later date! A. Yes, sir.



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Q. Is it your plan and the plan of the Board of Educa­

tion that every school in this system in the city at this 
time would have a desegregated faculty of one or more 
teachers commencing in the September term? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Is it also in your planning that the number of teachers 
in the high schools—that the desegregation in the number 
of the teachers in the high school will be increased begin­
ning in the fall term next year? A. Yes, sir.

Q. How do you plan, Mr. Garrett, and in your planning 
with Mr. McKee and the Board, to increase the number of 
teachers teaching in schools where the children are pre­
dominantly of the opposite race? A. Well, we have—we 
think, have done a good bit of groundwork, background 
work, this year by bringing teachers of the opposite race 
together, sometimes in a previously colored school, some­
times in a previously white school, in the observation les­
sons and in discussion. We plan and are hopeful that we 
will have a number of summer institutes this summer where 
teachers of all the races will be together working in this 
institute for the improvement of certain areas of instruc­
tion, both technique and content of the curriculum. Now,

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that is background-creating climate that we think will be 
very helpful. During the course of all of my interviews 
with college graduates, fresh college graduates—and we 
go to Alabama State and Alabama College and Troy and 
Huntingdon and so on and have a—spend the day and 
interview prospective teachers—in the course of that, we 
discuss very frankly with every one of them the fact that 
we are attempting to desegregate faculty in the Mont­
gomery public school system, and we encourage them to 
agree to accept an assignment where a majority of the



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children are—teachers are of another race, and what I 
have observed has been very encouraging to me. I have 
been to two colleges thus far, and, while the number that 
agreed that they would like to have—like to try that has 
not been as many as I wish it were, it has been rather 
encouraging.

The Court: What you are saying is that you don’t 
find the extent of prejudice in the younger new grad­
uates—

Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: —that you do in the old ones?
Witness: Right.
The Court: All right; I understand.
Witness: While we are talking informally—
Mr. Robison: This is not very informal, Mr. 

Garrett.
Witness: Well, if I might say to the Judge, often­

times a little bit of maturity, though, makes them 
much more adaptable in actually accomplishing it 
and carrying it out in a successful manner; I don’t

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mean too much maturity, but a reasonable amount of 
experience, teaching experience, is real helpful in 
carrying out an assignment in a minority school.

Q. At the present time, is—at the moment, is this a 
crucial time with respect to the employment of faculty for 
this system— A. Yes, sir.

Q. —into next year ? A. Yes.

The Court: My understanding, now, you are going 
to have this next year teachers of the minority race 
in every school in your system ?



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Witness: As far as humanly possible.
The Court: And how many do you expect to have 

in your—in your elementary schools, a minimum 
per school?

Witness: Two, at least.
The Court: And how many in your junior high, 

your minimum?
Witness: Tw o; maybe more.
The Court: All right.
Witness: Depending on what we come—
The Court: Now, let’s go to percentages; what 

percentage do you expect to have in your high 
schools ?

Witness: I just don’t know. We haven’t actually 
discussed that up to this point. I—I couldn’t say.

The Court: Well, your race—your student popu-
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lation is sixty-forty?
Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: Ultimately, that will be your optimum 

if you are going to eliminate the racial character­
istics of your school through faculty—

Witness: (Nodded to indicate affirmative reply)
The Court: —wouldn’t it? It would have to be.

Q. At—

Mr. Robison: Excuse me, your honor.
The Court: (Nodded to indicate affirmative reply)

Q. At the present time, the faculty— ratio of students in 
this system is approximately sixty-forty at the present time, 
is it not? A. Yes, sir; it is awful close to it.



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Q. Do yon understand, Mr. Garrett, that you are under 
the affirmative duty to desegregate the faculty of this school 
system under this court order, that you have an affirmative 
duty to desegregate faculty in the Montgomery County 
school system? A. Yes, sir; along with whatever author­
ity I have delegated in these matters by the Board of 
Education and the superintendent.

Q. Do you state to the court that, within the authority 
which you have as associate superintendent of education, 
that you will discharge that affirmative duty that is on 
you to desegregate the staff of this system in line with 
the preparation that you have already made? A. Yes, sir;

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we have been working diligently toward it.

Mr. Robison: I believe that’s all.

Redirect Examination by Mr. Allen •

Q. Mr. Garrett, I believe you testified when I was ex­
amining you that you wrere going to have at least—at least 
one in each school, or am I wrong on that? A. I said 
we would try to start with one in every elementary school 
and then come back around with two, and if we were 
successful, maybe three; I don’t have any preconceived 
notion about maximums, but I would rather have these 
distributed rather than to have three, say, in one school 
and none in another.

The Court: I understand that.

A. That is what we are after, I mean—
Q. Now, as to these substitute teachers you said you 

have seen, how many have you seen? A. Well, now, I don’t



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visit in the schools as much as some of our people; I don’t 
—I don’t—frankly don’t have the time. I used to be able 
to visit more than I have this year. But I have seen sev­
eral, I would say four or five, and I have heard reports, 
though, from other school personnel that have seen others 
that I didn’t see, so I would assume there has been some 
going on.

Q. Do you have any way of knowing— A. I don’t know 
how many; I wouldn’t—I don’t have any way in the world 
to know.

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Q. Do you have any way of knowing whether these re­
ports that you have heard are the same teachers that you 
saw, yourself? A. I don’t think so, because in some cases, 
it would be in a different school and on a different day 
from when I saw them, but I would assume it was a dif­
ferent case.

Q. Tour or five is what you have seen? A. Yes; but I 
haven’t visited the schools this year; I want to hasten to 
point that out.

Mr. Allen: That’s all, your honor.
The Court: Mr. Gray?

By Mr. Gray:

Q. I think you said, Mr. Garrett, that at present, your 
teacher ratio is sixty-forty; you mean sixty per cent white 
and forty per cent Negro; right? A. (Nodded to indicate 
affirmative reply)

Q. Now, is it the intention of the Board to have this 
type of ratio in each school? A. I just do not know. We 
have not discussed things that far; we are trying to meet 
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The Court: Anything else from this witness?
Mr. Allen: I have nothing further, your honor. 
The Court: Mr. Eobison?

Recross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Mr. McKee, in the selection of substitute teachers or
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in the employment of teachers, is the particular qualifica­
tion of that teacher insofar as her ability or her ability 
to teach Spanish or a particular subject—

The Court: I will take judicial notice of that. 
Mr. Eobison: All right.
The Court: Anything else?
Mr. Eobison: That’s all.
The Court: Do you have anything else from this 

witness?
Mr. Allen: No, your honor.
The Court: All right. Let’s recess until one thirty, 

Mr. Lassiter.

(At which time, 12:06 p.m., a recess was had until 
1:30 p.m., at which time the hearing continued)

The Court: Your next witness, Mr. Allen.
Mr. Allen: Call Mr. Jack Eutland.
Witness Jack Eutland: Yes, sir.



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J ack R utland , witness for the United States, having 
been duly sworn, testified as follows:

Direct Examination by Mr. Allen:

Q. Would you state your name, please, sir? A. Jack 
Kutland.

Q. What is your occupation? A. I am a junior high
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school principal.
Q. Have you accepted an assignment as principal to the 

Jeff Davis High School which will be opened next fall? 
A. Yes; I have.

Q. When did you first—when did you accept that assign­
ment? A. About August, was a year ago.

Q. Were you approached by personnel from the Mont­
gomery County Board of Education to accept this position ? 
A. Yes; I was.

Q. You didn’t ask them for the position; they came and 
asked you; is that correct? A. That is correct, sir.

Q. Have you been consulted about the assignment of 
additional personnel at Jeff Davis High School this fall? 
A. We have talked generally.

Q. Well, thus—so far, you have assigned a principal's 
assistant; isn’t that correct? A. Sir, assignments are 
made through our Board of Education, superintendent; 
I do not have jurisdiction there.

Q. Did anyone from the Board of Education talk to you 
about the assignment of a principal’s assistant, a coach, 
two assistant coaches, and a band director? A. Yes, sir; 
we talked.

Q. Did you make recommendations? A. Yes; I did.



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Q. Were the people who you recommended appointed? 

A. I believe most of them were or I agreed to it.
Q. Did you discuss other people as possible—possibly 

filling these positions? A. Yes, sir; we did.
Q. Were they all white? A. I believe, thus far; yes, sir.
Q. Have you made any efforts to compile a list of teach­

ers to recommend for appointment or assignment to Jeff 
Davis High School next fall? A. Yes, sir; I have in a 
general way; I have thought about good teachers from all 
over the system from every area.

Mr. Allen: I would like the Clerk to mark this as 
Government’s Exhibit next in line.

The Clerk: Government Exhibit number 38 for 
identification.

Q. I will show you a document which has been marked 
as Government’s Exhibit 38, and ask you if you would iden­
tify that, please, sir? A. Those are my notes concerning 
teacher prospects, some of whom I would like to get if I 
can talk my associate superintendent into it. As I stated, 
that is not my responsibility, but I do try to get the best.

The Court: Your associate superintendent—
Witness: Mr. Silas Garrett, Judge.
The Court: —who is that? Did I understand you

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to say they had an associate principal?

Mr. Allen: Well, I understood that they have— 
there will be a principal’s assistant or someone or 
an administrative assistant who will also teach this 
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Witness: That is correct; we call them principal’s 
helper, and he will teach and help in the office some.

The Court: Has that position been filled?
Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: Three assistant coaches been filled?
Witness: Two assistant coaches, sir.
The Court: (Nodded to indicate affirmative reply)

Q. And one head coach— A. That is correct.
Q. —is that correct?

Mr. Allen: I would like to offer this document 
into evidence as Government’s Exhibit—

Mr. Robison: We have no objection.
The Court: It will be admitted.
Mr. Allen: — 38.

Q. Approximately how many—

The Court: Let me see it.

Q. —Negro teachers have you actually talked to about— 
A. I have talked to no teachers, Negro or white.

Q. Is it part of your responsibility as the new principal
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of Jeff Davis High School to organize the extracurricular 
program for the school? A. Yes, sir; that is true.

Q. And what have you done to—thus far, to organize 
this program? A. I have accepted the aid of about five 
businessmen who have come to me from time to time since 
I have been nominated and who have told me that they 
would like to help me get started; they understand this is 
the system in Montgomery County. The School Board, 
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the building, but extracurricular activities or programs are 
handled by subscription from the public.

Q. Is Mr. Tranum Fitzpatrick the chairman of this—of 
this group? A. Yes; he is.

Q. Did he organize and conduct a meeting at—in the 
last week— A. Yes, sir.

Q. —in order— A. Yes, sir.
Q. Where was that meeting held? A. The Governor’s 

House Motel.
Q. About how many people were there? A. About 

seventy-five.
Q. Were any Negroes there? A. No, sir.
Q. Are there any Negroes in your group of businessmen 

who are helping to organize the extracurricular program?
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A. No, sir; we didn’t have any to volunteer, but we were 
looking for help from all quarters.

Q. What have you done to find Negroes? Negroes— 
A. I have done nothing to find Negro or white; they have 
come to me.

Q. How far have you gone in toward raising money for 
extracurricular activities? A. You mean how much money, 
sir?

Q. Well, how much equipment have you bought? A. I 
do—I cannot answer that; we have ordered some equip­
ment for spring training; my coach has ordered some 
equipment; I do not have a tally on that.

Q. Have you already purchased the football equipment? 
A. Some of it.

Q. You have already selected the football uniforms? 
A. That is correct, sir.

Q. Have you already selected the band uniforms? A. 
Yes, sir.



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Q. Who did the selection? A. The coach helped me with 
the football, and the band, I did mostly on my own; of 
course, I had some— some advice from several people. I 
had this uniform on a mannequin in my home, and several 
people saw it and liked it and accepted it.

Q. All right; did any Negroes see it and accept it and 
like it? A. They have had an opportunity to see it in 
yesterday’s paper and also on television several times; 
I am sure they did.

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Mr. Allen: I would like to mark this as Govern­

ment’s Exhibit 39.
The Clerk: Government’s Exhibit 39.

Q. I will show you document which has been marked as 
Government’s Exhibit 39, and ask you if you would iden­
tify that, please, sir? A. In what manner, sir?

Q. You just mentioned a picture in the newspaper; is this 
the picture that appeared in the newspaper? A. Yes, sir.

Q. How did that picture happen— strike that. Is that 
you in the picture in the center? A. Yes, sir; that is 
correct.

Q. How did this picture happen to be made and placed in 
—in the newspaper? A. On one day this week, Mr. Sam 
Adams, who is a news writer for the Advertiser-Journal, 
a local newspaper, called me at my school, Goodwyn Junior 
High School, and asked me if I would have such a picture 
made.

Q. Where did you get the students who are modeling 
these uniforms? A. I called a colleague who is a junior 
high school principal; I did this because I did not want



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to in any way influence—abiding by the court order, I 
didn’t want to influence a child in any way to choose my 
school, so I did not—have not ever seen those two boys 
before that day.

Q. Well, the principal you called was the principal of
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Cloverdale Junior High School— A. That is correct, sir.
Q. —which is a predominantly white school? A. I be­

lieve that is true, sir.

Mr. Allen: I would like to offer this into evidence 
as Government’s Exhibit.

Mr. Kobison: I have no objection.
The Court: It will be admitted. Why didn’t you 

get one Negro and one white student for that?
Witness: Judge, I didn’t select them, myself, so I 

don’t—
The Court: Well, you used them—
Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: —and you got the man that did select 

them?
Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: Why didn’t you get one of each if you 

didn’t intend to create the impression it was going 
to be a white school? Let’s just get right down to 
the nub of the thing; why didn’t you get one of each 
if you didn’t intend to create the impression it was 
going to be a white—

Witness: I didn’t do it to create an impression at 
all.

The Court: Of course, that has that effect, doesn’t 
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Witness: That is one interpretation, sir; it is.
The Court: Sure. Sure it is, where you are go­

ing through a period of trying to desegregate a 
previously dual school system, where you estab­
lish a new school in the system—

Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: —immediately before your freedom 

of choice period—
Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: —that is an obvious effect, isn’t it?
Witness: That is the Judge’s interpretation, sir.
The Court: What is yours?
Witness: My interpretation is I am trying to 

abide by the court order; I would assume that be­
cause the school, located geographically where it is, 
probably predominantly of the white race.

The Court: You understand we don’t have geo­
graphical school districts here—

Witness: No, sir, not—
The Court: —yet. Yet. I call your attention to 

this copy of Franklin County Board of Education 
in North Carolina case where Judge Butler wrote 
this opinion—I think it is excellent law—where he 
ruled with the Board of Education for two or three 
years on freedom of choice and kept having things 
like this, and they never did do anything; he just 
put them strictly on the geographical basis on the 
theory that freedom of choice didn’t work. And it 
looks like that is where we are headed here in Mont-

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gomery if we don’t stop stuff like this. Go ahead.

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Q. Referring to the picture that was just identified, 
it states in the outline under the picture that the students 
from Cloverdale Elementary will be eligible for—to attend 
the Jeff Davis High School; where did the reporter get 
that information? A. I don’t know, sir.

Q. Did you tell him—  A. Of course, if I may add, sir, 
that all junior high school students in Montgomery will 
be eligible under the freedom of choice.

Q. Did you tell the reporter that, that all— A. No, 
sir; I didn’t tell him that.

Q. There have been other—there has been other pub­
licity surrounding the opening of the Jeff Davis High 
School; isn’t that correct? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Have you talked with the newspaper reporters on 
other occasions about Jeff Davis High School? A. Yes, 
sir; I have. I gave an interview, and you have that in­
formation, I believe with Mr. Massey and my material.

Mr. Allen: I would like to mark this as Govern­
ment’s Exhibit.

The Clerk: Government’s Exhibit number 40 for 
identification.

Q. I will show you the newspaper clipping marked as 
Government’s Exhibit 40, and ask you if that is the clipping

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which you were just referring to? A. No, it is not; the 
clipping I am referring to has a picture of the school 
under construction; it has a by-line of Massey, I believe, 
sir.

Q. Well, is—was this newspaper—particular newspaper 
clipping—strike that. Was this story made up as a re­
sult of an interview with you? A. I don’t believe so. I



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believe that is—as it says here that I was making a speech 
before a civic club, and I think he picked it up from there, 
sir.

Q. When was this speech that you gave to the Mont­
gomery Rotary Club? A. Sir, I don’t recall that.

Q. Approximately? A. Three weeks ago.
Q. Was Billy Livings, the assistant coach, present there? 

A. Yes; I believe he was.
Q. Did he also speak? A. I believe we had a question 

and answer period, and I believe he answered the ques­
tions.

Q. Did either you or Mr. Livings say that most of the 
football players from Lee and Lanier High may join the 
Davis team if they reside near the new school? A. I 
don’t believe we did, sir. I f we were—we were probably 
misquoted; I can’t tell until the freedom of choice who 
will come from where.

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Mr. Allen: I would like to offer this as Govern­

ment’s Exhibit 40.
Mr. Robison: I f the Court please, we would ob­

ject to the introduction of that; it has not been prop­
erly identified nor is it shown that it reflects his com­
ments.

The Court: I sustain it; I sustain objection.

Q. Is part of your duties as new principal making up 
the athletic schedules for the coming year? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Have you made up the athletic schedules for— say the 
football schedule? A. I have for football.

Q. Have you worked on the basketball schedule? A. 
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Q. Is anyone else working on the basketball schedule?
A. Yes, sir; assistant coach Charles Lee is doing that.

Q. Did you make most of the contacts to make up the 
football schedule for this fall? A. Yes; I did.

Q. You scheduled ten games; is that correct? A. That 
is correct.

Q. And these are all with traditionally white schools? 
A. All of them, I assume, would be integrated schools un­
der the court order.

Mr. Allen: I would like to mark this.
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The Clerk: Government’s Exhibit number 41.

Q. I will show you the document marked as Government’s 
Exhibit 41, and ask you if you will identify that? A. That 
—that is correct; that is our football schedule.

Q. Is Montgomery County High traditionally a white 
school? A. Yes, sir; I believe it is predominantly white.

Q. Are any of these other teams, any of these schools on 
here, not traditionally white ? A. I would not think so ; I do 
not know what their enrollment would be; I would think 
that they would be predominantly white.

Q. Well, I didn’t say predominantly; I said traditionally 
white schools? A. I do not know the answer to that.

Mr. Allen: Well, I would like to offer this as Gov­
ernment’s Exhibit 40.

Mr. Robison: We have no objection.
The Court: It will be admitted.

Q. Did you contact the administrators of schools in addi­
tion to those and attempt to set up your football schedule?



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A. Yes, sir; I contacted several administrators, and some 
I was able to schedule and some not.

Mr. Allen: I would like to mark this as Govern­
ment’s Exhibit.

The Clerk: Government’s Exhibit number 42.
Mr. Allen: 42.

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The Court: Has your school joined the Alabama 

Athletic Association ?
Witness: No, s ir ; not yet.
The Court: Have you made arrangements to do 

so?
Witness: We have not formally applied, but we 

have—
The Court: How do you know what teams to 

schedule if you haven’t made arrangements to do so?
Witness: I selected schools from the list of the 

Alabama High School Athletic Association.
The Court: All right; that is what I want to know.

Q. I would like you to look at the document marked as 
Government’s Exhibit 42, and tell us what that is? A. I 
have never seen it before in my life, sir.

Mr. Phelps: That is your basketball coach.
Witness: That is my basketball coach’s informa­

tion.
Mr. Allen: I beg the court’s pardon.
Witness: He put his in my file as we were going 

out to lunch, and, of course, it is all together.
Mr. Allen: I will identify this with the next wit­

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The Court: All right; let’s get along.
Mr. Allen: I would like to mark this.
The Clerk: Government’s Exhibit number 43.
Mr. Allen: I believe you better make them A, B, 

and C; there are three papers there.
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The Clerk: Government’s Exhibits 43-A, B, and C.

Q. I will show you Government’s Exhibit 43-C, and ask 
you what that is? A. This is stationery that is drawn up 
by the steering committee listed here; these are the people 
who are raising extracurricular funds for Jefferson Davis 
High School.

Q. These are the people listed along the letterhead here? 
A. Yes, sir.

Q. I believe you already said that those are all white? 
A. Yes, sir; that is correct.

Q. Or did you— okay. And I would like to show you 
Government’s Exhibit 43-B, and ask you if you can iden­
tify that? A. That is a brochure drawn up by this com­
mittee to present to donators, which includes the proposed 
budget, of course.

Q. What is this on the front, this first page? A. This is 
a proposed crest drawn up by a ring company; that would 
go on the rings or stationery or what-not; it is a symbol 
we use. We do not have a mascot yet; the children are 
going to select that. We needed something to be flashing; 
that is what that is.

Q. Who designed this? A. This particular drawing 
here?

Q. Yes, sir? A. I imagine an artist from Josten Ring 
Company.



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Q. Well, I show you Government’s Exhibit 43-A, and 
ask you if you identify that? A. That is a letter to me

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from Mr. Milo B. Howard, Jr., who is director of the De­
partment of Archives and History, in which I, I believe 
by telephone conversation, asked him if he had materials 
on Jefferson Davis. I became interested in Jefferson Davis 
when I was named principal of Jefferson Davis High 
School and began reading about Jefferson Davis, and that 
is what that is.

Q. Did he send you information that could be used in 
making up this design? A. Yes; I believe the Confederate 
Seal was also included in that letter described which has 
a picture of George Washington on a horse on it, by the 
way.

Mr. Allen: I would like to offer these as Govern­
ment’s Exhibits 43-A, B, and C.

The Court: It will be admitted.

Q. Is transportation provided to the Goodwyn School? 
A. Yes, sir; from certain areas.

Q. From what areas? A. These areas are designated in 
the court order; I believe you would describe it as Chis­
holm area, Boylston area, North Montgomery, Atlanta 
Highway, Bell Hoad, North Montgomery.

Q. Is there any reason that you can see, based on your 
experience in supervising transportation at Goodwyn, why 
transportation should not be provided to the Jeff Davis 
School? A. I don’t think that that would be a decision 
made at my echelon of experience.

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Q. Well, the question is, is there any reason— A. Sir, 

I don’t believe I could intelligently answer that; I don’t 
know all the implications.



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Q. Well, as principal of Goodwyn, you are in charge of 
transportation there? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Do you anticipate any problems at Jeff Davis that 
would be different from the problems that you would have 
in transportation at Goodwyn? A. Oh, no; those of us who 
have been in transportation know that you have problems 
always with transportation, but they are all of the normal 
nature.

Q. Are they going to be different at Jeff Davis? A. Sir, 
I couldn’t answer that, not having any experience in that 
area.

The Court: Wasting a lot of time, Mr. Allen; let’s 
get along.

Q. Do you anticipate hiring another secretary at your— 
at Jeff Davis next fall? A. This would depend on enroll­
ment.

Q. Have you already made contacts with prospective 
secretaries? In— A. I have talked to one secretary, the 
one I have had for seven years.

Q. How about others to fill an additional secretary job?
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A. No, sir; I haven’t. I haven’t made any contacts; I have 
several letters of application, and I only talked to those 
people and answered questions who asked me questions.

Q. Do you know whether those people that you have had 
contact with are all white? A. No, sir; I do not know; 
some of them have written me, and I do not know.

Mr. Allen: I have no further questions, your 
honor.

The Court: All right; Mr. Gray, Mr. Seay?



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By Mr. Gray:

Q. Mr. Rutland, in—just so I am sure I understand, in 
preparation of your athletic schedules— A. Yes, sir.

Q. — all of them— A. (Nodded to indicate affirmative 
reply)

Q. —both football and basketball— A. (Nodded to indi­
cate affirmative reply)

Q. —you made most of the contacts; is that correct? 
A. In future years, I assume that the coach will make the 
contact, Mr. Gray. This year, since I had no one but myself, 
I did it.

Q. Now, did all the people you contacted—were they 
white or colored? A. The people I contacted were white 
people.

Q. All right. Now, with respect to approximately how 
many chibs or social groups, et cetera, have you talked

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with about this—about Jefferson Davis High School? A. 
Approximately how many?

Q. Yes, sir? A. Approximately six or eight, seven— 
six or seven.

Q. Six or seven? A. (Nodded to indicate affirmative 
reply)

Q. And have all of these people you have talked with, 
have they been white or colored? A. That is correct; those 
are the ones who invited m e; I speak where I am invited; 
yes, sir.

Q. Now, have you taken the initiative in—in—in prepa­
ration for the opening of this school, have you taken the 
initiative to contact anybody about anything concerning 
the school? A. I would—I—I don’t recall specifically con­
tacting anyone about anything; in general way, of course,



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I have had conversations with many people about opening 
of the school.

Q. Have you contacted any Negroes at all, either princi­
pals of schools, teachers in schools, or anyone else concern­
ing any plans or asking them for suggestions or letting 
them know that you would like their assistance so far as 
Negroes are concerned? A. The only Avay there is on com­
mittee work, and in the committees on which I have worked, 
of course, I have colleagues who are Negroes, and I have 
talked to them in a general way, but not specifically about 
Jefferson Davis; no.

Q. So you haven’t talked to any Negroes at all about
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Jefferson Davis? A. That is correct.
Q. Now, are you familiar with the proposed eligibility of 

football players at Jefferson Davis for this fall? A. Yes; 
I am.

Q. What rule and regulation has been adopted so far as 
who will be eligible? A. Those people who have estab­
lished eligibility at the Lee and Lanier High School and 
who live closer to Jefferson Davis High School will be 
eligible to attend Jefferson Davis High School.

Q. Now, who passed that rule and regulation and adopted 
—who adopted that regulation ? A. That rule was adopted 
jointly, I think between myself and the superintendents 
and Mr. Bubba Scott of the Athletic Association.

The Court: Only Lee and Lanier High School?
Witness: Well, Judge, under the court order, of 

course, anyone who is going from a—from one school 
desegregated for the first time, of course, would be 
eligible, so it wouldn’t be any need to include other



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high schools in Montgomery. If I interpret the court 
order correctly, sir.

The Court: Let me hear that rule again?
Witness: The eligibility rule is that if a student 

has established eligibility in Lee or Lanier High 
School, if he lives closer to Jefferson Davis High 
School, he would be eligible to participate in ath­
letics.

The Court: Is that white or Negro in Lee or 
Lanier ?

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Witness: Yes, sir; I don’t think there is any dis­
tinction.

The Court: All right; go ahead. Would he be 
eligible to participate the first year in athletics at 
Jefferson Davis?

Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: All right. What if he is from Carver 

or Earner or—
Witness: I believe, under the court order, if he 

were in one of those schools, sir, he would he eli­
gible, as the court order states, because he would 
be going into— into a desegregated situation for the 
first time, and he would he eligible. That is my 
interpretation of the court order, sir. That is why 
Lee and Lanier—

The Court: I think that is a proper interpreta­
tion. The court order doesn’t state that, but I think 
that is—that is a valid interpretation of the order, 
that you cannot deny eligibility to— to one going to 
a school of the opposite race for the first year.

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The Court: I think that is right. But if you had 
Negroes at Lanier or/and Lee, I don’t see why you 
just restrict it; that is to keep them from pirating 
players from—

Witness: That is correct; we have overzealous 
parents of course, Judge.

The Court: I understand, I understand; go ahead.
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I think that is a proper interpretation of the order 
as I have given it to Mr. Scott. It is not spelled out 
in the order by a long shot, but I did tell Mr. Scott, 
and this is for the record, and I guess this is where 
this comes from; I told Mr. Scott they could not 
deny eligibility to Negroes that elected through free­
dom of choice to go to a former white school, even 
the first year. I guess that is where that rule came 
from; go ahead.

Q. May I show you Government’s Exhibit 43-B, and you 
say this is the proposed—what is it? A. Crest; that goes 
on a class ring and so forth.

Q. Now, did you supply to the company that designed 
that crest the information that is contained on it? A. No; 
I asked them to design a crest, and their company, which 
is in Owatonna, Minnesota, came up with this crest.

Q. You—did you send them any information at all? A. 
I sent them a copy of the Confederate Seal.

Q. All right; did you also send them a copy of the Con­
federate flag? A. No, sir; I think there are plenty of those 
available throughout the country right now.

Q. Now, Jefferson Davis High School, the proposed crest 
has on it a Confederate Seal; is that right? A. Yes, sir.



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Q. Which has, “ The Confederate States of America”— 
A. Eight.

Q. —and above that, it has a Confederate flag? A.
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That’s right.
Q. Sir, couldn’t that be interpreted by Negroes as being 

designed to discourage them from attending that school?

Mr. Eobison: If the court please, we object to the 
form of that question.

The Court: I sustain it.
Mr. Gray: We have no further questions.
The Court: Mr. Eobison, Mr. Phelps?
Mr. Eobison: Yes, sir.

Cross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Mr. Eutland, you have been asked about the court 
order and your interpretation of that order; do you recall, 
in a discussion on yesterday when we were talking about 
this court order, having been read a portion of the existing 
court order— A. Yes, sir.

Q. —“A  student attending school for the first time on a 
desegregated basis will not be subject to disqualification 
or waiting period for participation in activities and pro­
grams, including athletics” ; do you—has that been read to 
you? A. Yes, sir; that was—

Q. All right, sir. Now, Mr. Eutland, what are your quali­
fications as a teacher or principal of this school? A. I hold 
a Master’s degree in the school administration from the 
University of Alabama. I have been elementary principal

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for six years; I have been a junior high school principal 
for ten years; and I organized Goodwyn Junior High 
School ten years ago Avith five hundred students.



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Q. You have been with this system approximately twenty 
years; is that your testimony? A. About nineteen years; 
yes, sir.

Q. And you have been a teacher and a principal in this 
system? A. That is correct, sir.

Q. You organized one of the junior high schools, one of 
the larger junior high schools in this system; is that cor­
rect, sir? A. Yes, sir.

Q. You were contacted, then, by Mr. McKee and Mr. 
Garrett with respect to becoming principal of the Jefferson 
Davis High School; is that right? A. Yes, sir; yes, sir.

Q. You have been asked regarding a clerk that you have 
out there, or helper that you have out there at the present 
time; is that person also going to be a teacher? A. Yes, 
sir.

Q. You have, also, a coach, two assistant coaches; is that 
correct, sir? A. Yes, sir.

Q. And the band leader? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Is there any other staff at Jefferson Davis High

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School or faculty members that you know have been em­
ployed? A. That’s all.

Q. Now, you have been questioned regarding—and I be­
lieve that it’s Government’s Exhibit—let me have that sheet 
of paper there, please— Government’s Exhibit 38, Mr. Rut­
land, is that a list of teachers that you have given consid­
eration to for employment at Jefferson Davis? A. In my 
own mind, sir.

Q. Do you have the final say-so, or do you have the final 
word, with respect to employment of teachers in your 
school? A. No, sir.

Q. As a matter of fact, since you have been principal at 
the present school, have teachers been employed and sent



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there that you had no knowledge of or any dealings with 
prior to their assignment? A. That is correct; this has 
happened.

Q. On this proposed list of teachers that you have given 
consideration to, are there any teachers there of the colored 
race? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Approximately how many do you have on that list 
who are of the Negro race? A. Six or seven, I don’t re­
member.

Q. And how many is the total number you have on that 
list? A. I do not know that.

Q. Would you mind counting them, Mr. Rutland? A.
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Thirty-one, I believe, sir.
Q. Thirty-one? A. Yes.
Q. Where, Mr. Rutland, did you get those names; how 

did you compile that list of names? A. From word of 
mouth, teachers of mine who had been to observation meet­
ings which we hold where we observe good teachers, and 
we send other teachers into certain schools, and my teachers 
have come hack and told me that they saw a certain teacher 
doing a real fine job and that they—I put them on my list. 
I am looking for good teachers.

Q. That is vour teachers at Goodwyn— A. Yes, sir.
Q. —is that correct, sir? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have been to schools that are—faculty is predomi­

nantly of the opposite race and have came back and told 
you of such and such a teacher that is a good one— A. 
Yes, sir.

Q. — that is of the opposite race in instances— A. Yes, 
sir.

Q. —is that correct, sir? A. Yes, sir.



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Q. Where they have been to those schools for teacher 
observation courses; is that correct, sir? A. Yes, sir; yes,

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sir; that’s right.

Q. Is athletics or band a part of the curriculum of any 
school that you know of? A. It is extracurricular, sir.

Q. Is it a part of the required curriculum of a school? 
A. No, sir; it is not required.

The Court: Well, let’s get on; do you consider it 
essential to the operation of the high school in Mont­
gomery, Alabama, on competitive basis with Lee and 
Lanier?

Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: All right.

Q. How is such activities financed? A. Activities of this 
kind are financed by moneys raised by citizens, civic clubs, 
possibly governmental agencies who make donations.

Q. Is that also true of Lee and Lanier? A. Yes, sir; 
that is true of all high schools, I suppose.

Q. And is that also— is it also true that basketball, foot­
ball, and band is an extracurricular activity at Lee and 
Lanier? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Have you contacted any individual or any group, civic 
club, or association on your own to solicit funds or ask 
assistance for the financing of the extracurricular activities 
at Goodwyn—at Jefferson Davis High School? A. No, sir; 
I have not.

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Q. Have you contacted any individual with respect to 

setting up meetings or any civic club or group to set up



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meetings to help finance it? A. No, sir; I have not con­
tacted anyone.

Q. You have been asked about a meeting that was held 
at the Governor’s House Motel; did you set that meeting 
up? A. No, sir; I did not.

Q. Do you recall or do you know who did set it up? A. 
Mr. Tranum Fitzpatrick, who is chairman of the steering 
committee of Jeff Davis High School activities committee.

Q. Did you have anything to do with the setting up of 
the Jefferson Davis High School activities committee; did 
you solicit this organization to be set up? A. Yes; I did. 
Ultimately, as a result of their volunteering to help me.

Q. As a result of their volunteering to help you? A. 
(Nodded to indicate affirmative reply)

Q. This Jefferson Davis High School activities commit­
tee was set up? A. That is correct.

Q. You were issued a subpoena duces tecum here and 
brought certain clippings? A. Yes, sir.

The Clerk: Defendants’ Exhibit number 1, 2, De­
fendants’ number 3, Defendants’ number 4, Defen­
dants’ number 5.

Q. Did you, Mr. Rutland, make a statement here with
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respect to a nicknaming of the school? A. Yes, sir; I be­
lieve so.

Q. Do you know who wrote this article? A. No; I do 
not.

Q. All right. Did you grant any interview by—to a Mr. 
Walter Massey? A. Yes; I did.

Q. Do you recall when that interview was? A. No, sir. 
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Mr. Robison: We woxild like to offer that in evi­
dence.

Mr. Allen: No objection, your honor.
The Court: What number is it?
Mr. Robison: Plaintiffs’—Defendants’ Exhibit

number 2.
The Court: It will be admitted.

Q. Did you grant an interview to a Mr. Travis Wolfe? 
A. No, sir; I did not.

Q. Did you grant an interview to a Mr. Gene Diefendorf ? 
A. Diefendorf; no, sir.

Q. Did you grant an interview to Miss Judith Helms? 
A. No, sir.

Mr. Robison: We are not offering those.

Q. In the interviews that you have given and the speeches 
that you have made, have you stated in there that this 
school would be opened on a freedom of choice basis? A. 
That is correct, sir.

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Q. Is it your understanding that your students will come 
there based on a freedom of choice? A. Yes, sir.

Q. You have been asked about the selection of a crest 
and colors and so forth of the school? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Is it necessary that the selection be made at this time 
and a determination be made of the crest and so forth of 
the school? A. No, sir; I might point out, sir, if I may, 
this is not an official crest of the school at this point.

Q. It is not an official crest? A. That’s right.
Q. The colors that you have, have they been made official 

yet? A. Yes, sir.



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Q. You have been asked about certain uniforms that have 
been ordered for both the football and the band; have they 
—have you got funds on hand to pay for those now, Mr. 
Rutland? A. I do not.

Q. The athletic equipment and the band uniforms that 
have been selected by you, who was with you in the making 
of that choice, or who determined that choice? A. Coach 
Bill Livings was in on the choice of the football uniform.

Q. All right, sir. A. On the band uniform, no one, sir; 
I did this, myself.

Q. Why did you have to select these uniforms at this
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time? A. Uniforms have to be selected at this time in 
order to get delivery by fall.

Q. For the football season in the fall? A. Yes, sir.
Q. You stated on direct examination that you were not 

a member at this time of the Alabama High School Athletic 
Association; is that correct, sir? A. That is correct, sir.

Q. Have you an application form for membership ? A. I 
believe I do.

Q. Do you know what the requirement is for membership 
in that association? A. Yes, sir; I believe I do. I believe 
the requirement is that a school must be accredited by the 
State Department of Education.

Q. That the school must be accredited by the State De­
partment of Education? A. Yes, sir; I believe that is true.

Q. Is the Jefferson Davis High School accredited at this 
time by the State Department of Education? A. On a 
tentative basis, I am sure, only if Ave meet certain stand­
ards when we open school.

Q. That was my question; when is it final; when will it 
be finally determined whether or not you are accredited by



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the State of Alabama? A. After we have had an eval­
uation.

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Q. Would that be at the time you open? A. I believe 

at the time I open, that the State Department will give 
us accreditation on the basis that we have at that time 
met the standards and that we will agree to an evalua­
tion and go through all the necessary steps to permanently 
be accredited.

Q. But you cannot adjoin—you cannot join the Alabama 
Athletic Association until you have been accredited by 
the State of Alabama; is that correct, sir? A. That is 
my understanding, sir.

Q. Now, the teams that you have scheduled, are they 
teams of the Alabama Athletic Association? A. Yes, sir.

Q. If you are not a member of the Alabama Athletic 
Association, can you play any teams that are members 
of the Alabama Athletic Association? If you do not be­
long to the Alabama Athletic Association, can you play 
any teams that are members of the Alabama—

The Court: Sure, if they are willing to play him, 
but if they are members and they play him, they are 
subject to be kicked out; that is the way I understand 
the rule; they can’t punish him if he plays them. 
If he can get them to play him, all right; but the 
Alabama Athletic Association has a rule, if I under­
stand it correctly, that if one member team plays 
a team that is not a member, then they get put out. 
Is that the way you understand it?

Witness: I am not firm on that, Judge; I just 
don’t know.



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The Court: All right; don’t we have the rules of 

the Alabama Athletic Association here?
Mr. Robison: Sir?
The Court: Don’t we have the rules of the Ala­

bama Athletic Association here?
Mr. Gray: We have a handbook here, your honor. 
The Court: Don’t they have that rule in them? 
Mr. Gray: I am not sure; I just got it this morn­

ing.
The Court: All right; I guess Mr. Scott is here, 

isn’t he?
Mr. Gray: Yes, sir; he is here.
The Court: All right. No member team can play 

a non-member team?
Mr. Phelps: I f the non-member team is qualified, 

as I understand, to become a member.
The Court: Well, they may do that?
Mr. Robison: Yes.
Witness: That is correct there, I know.
The Court: They may do that; this is the manner 

in which they have exercised control.

Q. Mr. Rutland, so far as you know, are those teams 
that you have scheduled to play on your football sched­
ule desegregated schools ? A. Yes, s ir ; I assume they are, 
since they are schools of Alabama and since most of us, 
all of us, are under the—a court order of some kind.

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Q. On last year, did you see the Lanier-Tuscaloosa High 

School game? A. No, sir; I did not.
Q. You did not. Did you see the Lee and Tuscaloosa 

High game? A. I believe I did, sir; I saw so many foot­
ball games, I can’t remember.



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Q. Do you remember that game in which at that time 
the football team of Tuscaloosa High was predominantly 
of the Negro race? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Mr. Rutland, do you understand that, as principal 
of the Jefferson Davis High School, that you are under 
a court order to take affirmative action and to encourage 
desegregation of the student body and the faculty? A. 
Yes, sir; I understand that.

Q. Will you do that to the best of your ability? A. Yes, 
sir; I will.

Q. Have you, in any way, attempted to influence the 
choice of any student in the Montgomery County system 
to come to your school? A. No, sir.

Mr. Robison: I believe that’s all.
The Court: Redirect, Mr. Allen?

By Mr. Allen:

Q. In connection with your athletic program at Jeff 
Davis, you plan to have spring football practice? A. Yes; 
we do.

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Q. When will that start? A. March 2.

Mr. Allen: I would like to mark this as Govern­
ment’s Exhibit.

The Clerk: Government Exhibit number 44.
The Court: I f the choice period runs from March 

1 to March 31—
Mr. Allen: Yes, sir; that is correct.
The Court: —how do you start a spring practice 

March 2?



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Witness: We are going to ask football players to 
commit themselves on March 1, to bring the choice 
sheet back to us.

The Court: How are you going to do that?
Witness: Well, we are going to ask them to bring 

it back, and I believe those who are interested in 
spring training and football—

The Court: You are going to circularize the foot­
ball players at Lee and Lanier?

Witness: They will go to every student in Mont­
gomery County.

The Court: Every student?
Witness: Yes, sir; every— choice form will go to 

every student in Montgomery County on March 1.
The Court: How you going to get the football 

players to bring them back in on the 1st of March?
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Witness : We have had this in the paper, and we 
will have other advertisements of this, so every 
child in Montgomery will have an opportunity to 
make his choice, and if he is eligible to play he can 
play.

The Court: Go ahead.

Q. I would like for you to identify Government’s Ex­
hibit 44, please, sir? A. This is a mimeographed sheet 
drawn up by coach Bill Livings—

The Court: What number is it?

A. — describing spring training, I believe—

The Clerk: 44.



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A. —spring training at Cloverdale School.
Q. Was—who circulated this? A. That has not been 

circulated generally. This, I believe, has been in the paper.
Q. You mean this particular thing was printed in the 

paper? A. No; that—information from that particular 
thing, not that particular thing.

Q. Well, why was it printed up? A. I don’t have any 
idea why we printed that up.

Q. Well, who has seen this? A. I believe this was 
handed out at the meeting we had at the Governor’s House 
for the gentlemen who were helping raise money to try to 
get them to realize that we needed to get on with it by 
March 1.

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Q. And I believe you already testified that there were 

only white people at that meeting.

Mr. Allen: I would like to offer this in evidence 
as Government’s Exhibit 44.

The Court: It will be admitted.
Mr. Allen: I have no further questions, your 

honor.
The Court: Who selected Cloverdale Community 

Center as being the place that the players that want 
to play at Jeff Davis are to report and get meas­
ured for uniforms?

Witness: I did.
Mr. Gray: Your honor, I just have a couple of 

questions.

By Mr. Gray:

Q. I think you said this crest is not official; is that 
correct? A. That’s right.

Q. Is it on the band uniforms? A. No; it is not.



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Q. Is it on the football uniforms? A. No; it is not.

Mr. Gray: That’s all.

Recross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Mr. Rutland, did you invite anyone to the meeting 
at the Governor’s House? A. No; I did not.

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Q. Why did you select or why was the site of Cloverdale 

School selected as a place for this practice? A. Clover- 
dale people volunteered the services of their facilities and 
their field at this time, and it was nearby the Jefferson 
Davis High School.

Q. Is it in the vicinity of where your Jefferson Davis 
High School would be; was that the reason for it, prox­
imity? A. It is probably the closest junior high to this 
field, and in the event we would have our field developed 
in time, we could move over easily, you see, from there. 
Our field is under development at this time.

Q. In the last Government’s Exhibit, you require or you 
ask in there for both the parent and the student to exercise 
their selection of a choice; why did you do that? A. We 
did that—of course, as you know, the court order says that, 
I believe, a child fifteen years old may make a choice, but 
we did this there again to keep down any recruiting or any 
wish-washing and changing; we want the child to make the 
commitment as far as athletics is concerned so he would 
not have a tendency to go back to one of the other schools; 
if he makes his commitment with us, we feel that he ought 
to stay there.

Q. So you have asked both the parent and the child— 
A. That’s right.



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Q. —to exercise their choice! A. That’s right; that’s 
right; sometimes it gets tough the first two or three days,

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and they want to change; we want to make sure that once 
they make their choice, they stick with it.

Mr. Robison: I believe that’s all.
The Court: Anything else from this witness!
Mr. Allen: No, your honor.
The Court: All right; call your next one, please. 
Mr. Allen: Call Jimmy Hughes.

W alter J ames H ughes , Jr., witness for the United States, 
having been duly sworn, testified as follows:

Direct Examination by Mr. Allen:

Q. What is your occupation! A. Student at Lanier 
High School.

Q. Which one! A. Student at Lanier High School.
Q. Lanier! A. (Nodded to indicate affirmative reply) 
Q. What grade are you in! A. Tenth.
Q. Where did you go to junior high! A. Bellingrath 

Junior High School.
Q. You play football, or did you play football at Lanier! 

A. Yes, sir.
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Q. Did you play football at Bellingrath! A. Yes, sir. 
Q. Have you also played basketball at both of these 

schools! A. Yes, sir.
Q. In that connection, have you become acquainted with 

Mr. Charles Lee and Mr. Billy Livings— A. Yes, sir.



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Q. —coaches? Mr. Lee is the coach at Bellingrath; is 
that right? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Have you had occasion to talk to either of these men 
about the new Jefferson Davis High School? A. I have.

Q. Would you tell us what conversations you had with 
coach Lee? A. I have only talked to coach Lee one time, 
and that was on my own accord; I went to see—visit his 
wife, who was in the hospital at the time she had her first 
child, and I asked him how things were going at the new 
school, and—I mean at—at Bellingrath, and I asked him 
what the colors were going to be for the new school, and 
he told me, and that was about the extent of our conversa­
tion. That is the only conversation I have had with him.

Q. How did you know that he was going to be at the new 
school? A. It was announced in the paper.

Q. What conversation have you had with coach Livings? 
A. I have had three conversations about the new school 
with coach Livings. The first one was very brief; I just 
asked him what his—what they were going to do over there

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and tried to find out some information about when spring 
training and when other facilities would start there, and, 
of course, at that time, he didn’t know. It was just after 
he had been announced, and so he told me to ask him later 
if I still wanted to know or something, and I waited.

Q. Did you ask him later about spring training? A. I 
did; I came to him during study hall one afternoon and 
asked him when spring training would start, where it would 
be held, and he had—he told me, and then I asked him 
what—let’s see, would we have practice on a—during A.E.A. 
holidays, and he stated that he didn’t think so, he really 
didn’t know.



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Q. Was anyone with you when you asked him about 
spring training? A. No, sir; I was by myself.

Q. Have you talked to other students at Lanier about 
spring training or about Jeff Davis generally? A. Noth­
ing other than between ourselves, like something as to the 
nature, “Are you going to Jeff Davis,” and the general 
reply would be, “ I wouldn’t know” ; that is about the extent 
of it. Nobody has talked much about it.

Q. Have you discussed this with any Negro students? 
A. No.

Q. In all your athletic experience at Bellingrath and at 
Lanier, have you ever played an opposing team from the 
traditionally Negro school? A. I don’t think so.

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Q. At Lanier, have you ever had a sub—a Negro substi­

tute teacher? A. No, sir.
Q. Have you ever had a Negro teacher? A. No, sir.

Mr. Allen: That’s all the questions I have—I beg 
your pardon ; just a minute.

Q. Did you have an occasion to make up a play book 
of football plays for coach Livings? A. I had the occa­
sion to write some plays down for coach Livings; yes. It 
was in study hall one afternoon, and I went down to ask 
him about whether—it was something concerning the school 
library at Lanier, and I happened to see several pieces of 
paper on his desk, and they had football formations on 
them, and I assumed he was working on them, and I asked 
him what they were, and he told me they were some of 
the formations that he thought they would use in the basic 
offense of the new school, and then he said, “ Would you 
like to look at them,”  and I said, “Yes, sir; if you don’t



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mind.” And he said, “ That will be quite all right,” and so 
I looked at them a few minutes, and I was looking at them, 
and I jotted down a few plays on each formation that I 
had known and had come in—you know, contact with. And 
I suppose I wrote down about six or eight or so for each 
formation.

Q. You learned these football plays when you were with 
coach Lee at Bellingrath? A. Most of them; yes, sir; but 
a few of them I did learn at Lanier.

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Mr. Allen: That’s all, your honor.
Mr. Gray: No questions, your honor.

Cross Examination by Mr. Phelps:

Q. Walter, have you decided where you are going to 
school next year? A. I have not made a definite decision; 
I would like to go to Jeff Davis, but I haven’t made my 
final decision yet.

Q. You are still considering? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Now, Mr. Allen asked you about did you have a 

colored teacher at Lanier; you have been interested in 
athletics at both Lanier and your junior high school? A. 
Yes, sir.

Q. Do you know a colored—any colored teachers; have 
you worked with any colored teachers out at Lanier? A. 
Yes, sir; there is coach Harris, who is P.E. teacher at 
Lanier; I have become acquaintance with him several 
times; he is a very nice person, and he works with—he 
doesn’t work with the athletes directly, but on occasion, 
when some of the coaches are not able to come in and 
speak with us, then he will come by and keep us in—you 
know, our order, especially the first two or three days of



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school, he was an important person, you know, in that 
aspect.

Q. All right; you have worked quite a bit with coach 
Harris'? A. Well, not quite a bit, but I have come in 
direct contact with him.

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Q. All right. Now, have you seen any—any substitute 
teachers or other colored teachers out there? A. I have 
seen one substitute teacher or teacher who was colored, and 
that is the only one I can say that I have seen.

Q. Besides coach Harris? A. Yes, sir.
Q. All right. Walter, you have got a subpoena to come 

to court today? A. Yes, sir.
Q. When did you get that subpoena? A. Last night 

about nine thirty or so.
Q. Did Mr. Quaintance, who sits here, give it to you? A. 

Yes, sir.
Q. Where—where was it served on you? A. At—in my 

living room.
Q. Did you get any advance notice about that? A. No, 

sir.

Mr. Phelps: I believe that’s all.
The Court: Anything else from this witness?
Mr. Allen: That’s all, your honor.
The Court: Witness is excused. You may go, 

young man. He can go. Call your next one.
Mr. Allen: Mr. Charles Lee.



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Charles L ee, witness for the United States, having been 

duly sworn, testified as follows:

Direct Examination by Mr. Allen:

Q. State your name, please, sir? A. Charles Lee.
Q. What is your occupation? A. I am presently em­

ployed as teacher in physical education at Bellingrath 
Junior High School.

Q. At Bellingrath, you also coach? A. That is correct.
Q. Basketball? A. Basketball, football, track, all var­

sity sports.
Q. In your football experience, how many Negro athletes 

have you had? A. We have had one to come out for foot­
ball.

Q. When was that? A. This past fall.
Q. Is that the only Negro athlete that you have actually 

worked with? A. In physical education, we have many 
colored athletes, colored boys.

Q. You are speaking of physical education classes then? 
A. As working with these boys as athletes in physical edu­
cation; outside of school, only one boy has come out.

Q. Have you accepted an assignment to the Jeff Davis
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High School next year as assistant coach? A. That is 
correct.

Q. You are employed by the Montgomery County school 
system? A. That is correct.

Q. Has it been part of your duties at Bellingrath to 
make up—I beg your pardon; has it been part of your 
duties to make up a basketball schedule for the new Jeff 
Davis High School? A. Yes.



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Q. Have you contacted authorities at other schools to 
make up this schedule ? A. I have contacted other schools.

Q. I will show you a document marked as Goveimment’s 
Exhibit 42, and ask you if you will identify that, please, 
sir? A. This is a list of coaches, the name of the school, 
and the town which they are located at, which I have sent 
out letters to as feelers for basketball schedule.

Q. Are all those traditional white schools? A. As far 
as I know, all of these schools are integrated schools.

Q. Are they traditional white schools? A. I would as­
sume that, in years past, they have been.

Mr. Allen: I would like to offer this as Govern­
ment’s Exhibit 42.

The Court: 42 will be admitted.

Q. Where did you obtain the names of schools to con­
tact? A. When I first began to make up a list of names,

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it was from coaches that I was acquainted with; second 
of all, from schools that I was familiar with as far as their 
athletic program is concerned, and schools which were close 
to Montgomery that I was familiar with, because we, being 
a new school, are faced with a problem of proximity, and 
we must try to play schools around close so that we won’t 
have a great deal of traveling expenses.

Q. Did you have a list of schools from which you could 
select? A. The Alabama High School Association has a 
directory, and from this directory, the schools that are 
members of the association, each school is listed, the town 
in which it is located, the classification of school, the dis­
trict that it is in, and the coaches on that staff.

Q. Is that the association that Bellingrath is in? A. It 
is actually an Alabama High School Association; junior



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high schools can he a part of the High School Association, 
although they don’t—they do not share in the overall high 
school set-up.

Q. Well, is it the association that the traditional white 
schools in Montgomery are in, Lee and Lanier? A. Lee 
and Lanier are in this association.

Q. Do you have any Negro teachers at Bellingrath? A. 
No.

Q. Have you seen any Negro substitute teachers there 
this year? A. I have not seen any, but I am not always 
in the school.

Q. Have you had occasion to discuss the Jeff Davis High
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School’s athletic program with any students? A. Yes.
Q. About how many? A. It would be hard to determine, 

because of the many questions that have come up by dif­
ferent students at different times that they have asked 
me, primarily after the article came out in the paper sev­
eral weeks ago as explaining the eligibility as to whether 
they would be eligible to attend or not.

Q. Now, this article in the paper explained the eligibility; 
is that an explanation which was given pertaining to stu­
dents who are coming from Lee and Lanier schools? A. 
It—as well as I can remember, it explained that any ninth 
grade student in Montgomery County was eligible to come 
and be athletically eligible, and as far as high school was 
concerned, that they were to live closer to Jefferson Davis 
than they did to Lee or Lanier.

Q. Have you talked to any Negro students about the 
athletic program at Jeff Davis? A. I have had no Negro 
students to ask me of the program. I have not—in other 
words, they have not asked me just like the white students 
have, and so this is the only contact that I have had with 
them.



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Q. Has any provision been made, to your knowledge, 
for furnishing this kind of information to students at 
Carver and Washington and the traditionally Negro junior

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high schools ? A. The information as it first came out was 
in the Journal.

Q. All right; then you testified that when that informa­
tion came out, several white students came and asked you 
questions about it! A. That is correct; students at our 
school.

Q. Who would answer those questions for Negro stu­
dents? A. Anyone that they asked, I suppose.

Q. Has any provision been made to—for you to have 
any contact with students at traditional schools—tradi­
tionally Negro schools? A. Would you repeat the ques­
tion?

Q. Has any provision been made for you to have any 
contact with students at traditional Negro schools? A. 
There have been no provisions made for me as a coach 
or any other coach to contact any students at any schools.

Q. Is there any reason, that you can think of, why Jeffer­
son Davis shouldn’t play Carver and Booker Washington 
in athletic contests ? A. I don’t know that I can adequately 
answer that question; I might answer it by saying this; 
that when I, as a coach, or any coach sets out to draw up 
a schedule or set up a schedule for his teams, a great 
many things are taken into consideration— sportsmanship, 
closeness, and working relations with that school.

Q. Wouldn’t Carver and Booker Washington fit into 
those categories, closeness? A. Closeness, they would. 
The level at which we, as a new school, are forced to com-

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pete with, we certainly, as we start out, cannot take on the 
larger schools. I think this would eliminate a great many



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schools in the Montgomery system; we could not compete 
with the Montgomery public schools, any of the Montgom­
ery public schools, because of the size of their schools and 
the size of our school. And then we look for it as to what 
would be the most beneficial for our ball team.

Mr. Allen: That’s all the questions I have, your 
honor.

By Mr. Gray:

Q. Coach, are you familiar with Saint Jude High School! 
A. I think so ; it is located on Fairview Avenue.

Q. Yes, sir; across the street from Carver! A. Yes.
Q. Is it a predominantly Negro or white school? A. As 

far as I know, it is predominantly Negro.
Q. And it is a smaller school than Carver or Booker 

Washington, isn’t it? A. I don’t have any idea about the 
size.

Q. Did you consider the possibility of getting a game 
with Saint Jude? A. No; I did not.

Q. You didn’t; and I notice on your schedule, you are 
playing Catholic High School? A. No; this is a possible.

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Q. It is a possibility? A. Right.
Q. You—have you considered the possibility at Saint 

Jude—to play Saint Jude? A. No; I did not.
Q. I also see you have a possibility on your schedule of 

Montgomery Academy and Alabama Christian High 
School? A. That is correct.

Q. Did you consider Alabama State Laboratory High 
School? A. No; I did not.

Q. Are you familiar with Alabama State Laboratory 
High School? A. No; I am not.



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Q. Have you done anything to familiarize yourself 
with any of the Negro schools in this area that your team 
could play? A. As I stated before, when I began to make 
this list up, my first consideration was for people that I 
knew, and, in answer to your question, no.

Q. And you don’t know any Negroes who are employed 
in the school system and who are coaches, et cetera, do 
you? A. I do know some that are employed in the school 
system.

Q. Do you know the various junior high school coaches 
in Montgomery, the Montgomery school system? A. No; 
I do not.

Q. The white ones? A. Yes.
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Q. Do you know the Negro junior high school coaches 
in the system? A. No.

Q. So really, you have no knowledge at all of the Negroes 
in the educational field in the Montgomery area? A. Very 
little.

Q. And you didn’t make any effort at all in working out 
your schedule to find out anything about these persons 
or these schools? A. No.

Mr. Gray: That’s all.
The Court: Mr. Robison, Mr. Phelps?

Cross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Do—does the same rules with respect to scheduling 
basketball apply as does to football insofar as scheduling 
teams in the Alabama Athletic Association—High School 
Athletic Association? A. When, several weeks ago, as I 
began to draw up or began to form a—this letter, one of 
the first things that I did was to contact Mr. Scott, who



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is head of the Alabama High School Association, to ask 
if we would be eligible for the Alabama High School As­
sociation, and he said that if we were accredited, that we 
would be eligible, and it had been my understanding that 
we would be accredited. And so, along these lines then, I 
began to look at the schools in—that I knew through vari­
ous contacts that the other Montgomery schools, Lee and 
Lanier, had had good relationships primarily in years 
before.

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Mr. Robison: That’s all.
The Court: Anything further from this witness?
Mr. Allen: No, your honor.
The Court: You want to excuse this witness?
Mr. Gray: I just have one question.

Redirect Examination by Mr. Gray:

Q. Is it then your testimony that the reason you didn’t 
consider Negroes is because the Negro schools were not 
on the list of the Alabama High School Athletic Associa­
tion’s directory? A. I did not; I do not know if there are 
any Negro schools in there, because for this reason; I 
assume that all of us are integrated schools, first of all, 
and then there are a great many schools in the directory 
that I did not contact.

Q. So then your basis, really, was personal knowledge 
and not the schools that were contained in the directory 
of the Alabama State Association? A. Personal knowl­
edge is correct.

Mr. Gray: All right.
Mr. Robison: That’s all.
The Court: You want to excuse this witness?



Mr. Allen: Yes, your honor.
The Court: Any reason to keep this witness?
Mr. Allen: Beg your pardon?
The Court: Any reason to keep this witness?

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Mr. Allen: No, your honor.
The Court: Call the next one, please.
Mr. Allen: That is all the witnesses we have, 

your honor.
The Court: The Government rests here. Any 

further evidence? All right; Plaintiffs.
Mr. Gray: Mr. Scott.
The Court: Let’s take a ten minute recess, Mr.— .

(At which time, 2 :49 p.m., a recess was had until 
2:58 p.m., at which time the hearing continued.)

The Court: All right; your next witness.
Mr. Gray: Mr. Scott.
The Court: First witness for the Plaintiffs, I be­

lieve.

N o t e : For testimony of H erm an  L. S cott, witness for 
the Plaintiffs, see excerpt transcript filed Febru­
ary 27, 1968.

The Court: Case is with the Defendants.
Mr. Robison: We would like to call Mr. Walter 

McKee.



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W alter M cK ee, a Defendant, having been duly sworn, 
testified as follows:

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Direct Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Mr. McKee, you were asked earlier this morning con­
cerning transportation to the new school; how many stu­
dents are transported to Lanier? A. At the present time, 
there is four hundred and thirty—approximately four hun­
dred thirty-nine transported to Lanier.

Q. How many to Carver? A. Two hundred ninety-five.
Q. How many to Lee? A. T wto hundred—three fifty.
Q. And how many to Booker Washington? A. A hun­

dred and thirty-two.
Q. How is it determined whether a school will be a 

transported or— school or not; how do you determine 
whether or not to designate a school as a transported school 
or not? A. Well, the big thing is, of course, where a 
school is most likely to have space, back in the days when 
they had districts, that was the sole factor, and the geo­
graphical—geography of the town is another thing that 
is involved. Now, as I pointed out this morning, the Lower 
Wetumpka Road, the Wetumpka Highway, and the Atlanta 
Highway are the areas, and those roads that branch off, 
that is transported to Booker Washington and Lee High 
School. Then, coming on around the Vaughn Road to Wood- 
ley Road, the McGehee Road, the Narrow Lane Road, and 
Norman Bridge Road, the Mobile Highway, the Selma 
Highway, and the Birmingham Highway, those are the

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areas in which students had a choice to go to either Lanier 
or Carver and will be furnished transportation.



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Q. In the designation of a—of an area as transported 
or in the designation of transported schools, that is, schools 
to which they are transported, is that based on any ratio 
factor? A. Not other than to give the opportunity of 
those living out of the city a chance to ride a school bus 
to a school of their choice which would be of one race or 
the other.

Q. So in designating a transported school or a trans­
ported area, race is considered a factor so as to permit any 
child residing in that area, they can be transported either 
to a predominantly white or a predominantly colored school, 
depending on their choice— A. That is correct.

Q. —is that your testimony? A. That is correct. Now, 
I might point out that we have some fifty odd schools, and 
practically all of them are in town, and we only have trans­
portation to six or eight, something like that. For instance, 
in the junior high field, we have transportation to about 
five of them.

Q. Why don’t you designate all schools as a transported 
school? A. That would be a physical impossibility to bring 
your buses in, say, from the Vaughn Road or in from the 
Wetumpka Highway and go to three or four different 
junior highs or to two or three or four senior highs; that 
would just be a physical impossibility without the children

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having to get up real early in the morning.

Q. So you designate certain areas that buses run over 
to transport students to a particular school designated as 
a transported school, and in that area, they have a choice 
to go to either a predominantly white or a predominantly 
colored school? A. That is correct.

Q. Now, based on your study and your experience, Mr. 
McKee, with respect to transportation of this system, and



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particularly transportation under the court order, do you 
have an opinion as to whether or not it would be feasibly 
possible to transport children to the new school? A. It 
would certainly not be feasibly possible to transport all of 
them. It would—the—it would—the space situation there, 
in my opinion, is going to be very crowded. And, of course, 
if you put the seven hundred children, roughly, that are 
now being transported to Carver and to Lanier, your school 
would be full, practically.

Q. Of transported children? A. That is correct.
Q. Well, would—is it your opinion, based on your study, 

that there will be sufficient students in the area of the new 
school so that the present capacity will be filled? A. I— 
I think there will. I checked on some figures on that during 
the lunch hour, and I found that the new school is three 
and seventy-five hundredths miles from Lanier High School

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as the crow flies, from the map, of course; some students 
will come from there. It is a little over two miles from 
Lee High School; and just a little bit over three miles from 
Booker Washington. And, of course, those schools—there 
would be children in the edges of the districts from all 
three of those that would be closer to the new high school 
than would—they would be to the other one.

Q. With respect to the Peter Crump School and the 
Southlawn, new schools, have you formulated any opinion 
as to the feasibility of transporting students to those 
schools? A. We felt that we could not transport students 
to that school at this time, because we had space in other 
schools that had been built; we did not have the funds 
to build rooms except for those that would be more or 
less in walking distance of those schools.



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Q. Are the decisions which you have reached with re­
spect to your proposal on transportation administrative 
decisions based on the feasibility studies that you have 
made and not based on a race factor? A. That is correct.

Mr. Robison: I believe that’s all.
The Court: Cross.
Mr. Allen: I have no questions, your honor.

Cross Examination by Mr. Gray:

Q. I think, sir, you said that what the Board has done,
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so far as the children in the rural is concerned, is to 
provide transportation going to a predominantly colored 
school and a predominantly white school so they can make 
their choice ? A. That is correct.

Q. Now, with respect to—back to my area around Wood- 
ley Road where these Negro children have a choice either 
to Hayneville Road or Goode Street? A. That is correct.

Q. Goode Street now is a predominantly Negro school, 
isn’t it? A. That is correct.

Q. And Hayneville Road school is a predominantly Negro 
school? A. That is correct.

Q. So now the only transportation in that area that is 
available for these children now are to be predominantly 
Negro schools? A. Either the white children or the col­
ored children.

Q. That is the situation, isn’t it? A. I said for the white 
children or the colored children.

Q. So then there is no transportation available to an 
integrated school or to one of the predominantly other 
race? A. We are seriously considering that for the next 
year since wTe have space now at Harrison School on the



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By-Pass, which I referred to, that we may designate that 
as one of the transported schools in that area, Harrison 
School and Hayneville Road.

Q. Isn’t it a fact, Mr. McKee, all this points np the fact 
that what the Board really needs to do is to completely

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revamp its transportation system on a nonracial basis! 
A. I think it is as far as it can possibly b e ; any child in 
the county has a choice to go to any school he Avants to ; he 
has a choice to go to schools— or transportation, if he is 
transported, to either a predominantly white or colored 
school. I don’t see how that could be made any fairer, and 
I don’t know of a single child in the county that has been 
turned down to go to—to any of these transported schools, 
because I don’t believe any of those are frozen.

Q. Of course, if you restrict the number of schools where 
transportation is available, their choice is automatically re­
stricted, isn’t it! A. It is restricted not as far as race is 
concerned.

Q. Well, I mean the effect of it is a restriction! A. I 
wouldn’t—I wouldn’t say as far as race is concerned.

Mr. Gray: I have no further questions.
The Court: Mr. Robison!

Redirect Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. If you don’t restrict it to certain schools or number, 
it would be impossible to conduct a transportation system? 
A. It would be impossible, because A v e  could not run a bus 
—the bus coming from—from the Woodley Road could not 
possibly go to eight or ten different schools to leave three 
children here, go over here and leave four, cross OAmr here



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and leave five, and get in all that trouble; children out the 
Woodley Road would be getting up at three o’clock in the 
morning.

Q. Mr. McKee, the white children that are living on the 
Woodley Road, where the choice is between Goode Street 
and Hayneville Road, as it now stands, if they, the white 
children, want bus transportation, they would be going to 
a school and are going to a school which is predominantly 
of a race other than their own; isn’t that a fact? A. That 
is correct.

Mr. Robison: All right, sir; I have no further 
cpiestions.

Mr. Allen: I have no questions, your honor.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Gray: Nothing further.
Mr. Robison: We have no further questions.
The Court: Next witness.
Mr. Robison: We would like to call Mr. Tom 

McGregor, reporter. Mr. McGregor. He hasn’t been 
sworn, if the court please. And would like to also 
say to the court that he has been sitting here during 
this.

The Court: I will let him testify.
Mr. Robison: Thank you, sir. You haven’t been 

sworn, have you, Tom?
Witness Jim McGregor: Jim.
Mr. Robison: I mean Jim.

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Witness Jim McGregor: No, sir.
The Clerk: Do you solemnly swear that the testi­

mony you give in this cause to be the truth, the



whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help 
you, God?

Witness Jim McGregor: I do.

J im  M cGregor, witness for the Defendants, having been 
duly sworn, testified as follows:

Direct Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. State your name, please, sir? A. Jim McGregor.
Q. And by whom are you employed? A. Montgomery 

Advertiser.
Q. How long have you been employed? A. Three years.
Q. Did you make the first contact with Mr. McKee or 

the Board of Education with regard to inquiring about 
the new high school? A. I think I did one of the first 
stories that was done about the new high school, because 
I had—if I can explain, I would—had been covering a 
court case that had been in State Circuit Court concerning 
money that was going to be available for this new school, 
and I covered a School Board meeting, I think, right after 
the whole thing had been straightened out in State Court, 
and the School Board knew they were going to get the

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money for the new school, and the School Board took some 
action saying that the new school was definitely going to 
be built, and I did a story at that time.

Q. That was the State Court action with reference to 
the wage scale— A. Yes, sir.

Q. — requirement to be put in the contract? A. (Nodded 
to indicate affirmative reply)

Q. And when that cleared and the money became avail­
able, you attended a meeting; at that meeting, did you



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have any conversation with Mr. McKee regarding this 
school and what type of school it would be? A. Yes, sir; 
I think I talked to him. I— I talked to him immediately 
after the meeting; I think I went to his office in the Board 
of Education.

Q. What statement did he make to you, if any, with 
respect to the race factor of this school or what it was 
designed to be? Insofar as race is concerned? A. The 
best I can remember, we—we talked about how many class­
rooms—

Mr. Gray: Your honor, we are going to object 
to this as self-serving.

The Court: I will permit it.
Mr. Gray: All right.

Q. What statement did he make? A. At one point in 
the conversation, he made it clear to me, and the best I

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remember, he specifically requested that it be made clear 
that this school, like all the other schools, were under the 
freedom of choice plan under court order.

Mr. Robison: I believe that’s all.
The Court: Cross.
Mr. Allen: Can I see those newspaper—the news­

paper clippings?

Cross Examination by Mr. Allen:

Q. I would like to show you a document which has been 
marked as Defendants’ Exhibit 4, and ask you did you 
write that story? A. No, sir.

Q. You didn’t? A. No, sir.



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Q. Did you cover any of the meetings that were held by 
the committee organized to raise funds for the new high 
school? A. No, sir.

Q. You didn’t. Have you talked to Mr. Jack Rutland 
at all about the new school? A. No, sir.

Q. Have you talked to any of the officials who will be 
assigned to the new school next year? A. No, sir. Except 
—well, just Board of Education; I have on occasion, four 
or five occasions, the last two or three years, I have 
covered Board of Education meetings and just reported

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what went on in the meeting, but—

Q. How many contacts did you have with the Board of 
Education, please, sir? A. I would say I covered three or 
four meetings last fall. They usually meet about once a 
month, and I have covered maybe three meetings last fall. 
Another reporter and I at the paper sort of split it one 
of us cover one time.

Q. Are these all pertaining to the new Jeff Davis High 
School? A. No, sir.

Q. How many contacts pertaining to that school? A. 
This is the only—the meeting I testified earlier about is 
the only one I can think it was specifically much talk was 
about the new Jeff Davis High School.

Q. And how many articles did you write about the new 
Jeff Davis High School? A. I think the one I referred to, 
and I don’t remember the exact day I wrote it, but I think 
that was the only one I wrote that really pertained to the 
Jeff Davis High School.

Q. When did that appear? A. It was either late sum­
mer or early fa ll; I don’t know the date; the best of my 
remembrance and recollection, it was.

Q. Did you put anything in that article about who would



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be going to that school, what students? A. (Shook head 
to indicate negative reply)

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Q. You didn’t? A. My only reference— and I am—and 

I am sure I quoted Mr. McKee—is saying that it would 
be freedom of choice. I made no reference to area or what 
area of the city they would come from or anything.

The Court: Mr. Gray?
Mr. Gray: No questions.
The Court: Mr. Robison?
Mr. Robison: We have no further questions.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Robison: Thank you, sir.
The Court: Step down.
Mr. Robison: Defendants rest, if the court please. 
The Court: Case back with the Government.
Mr. Allen: No rebuttal, your honor.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Gray: No rebuttal.
The Court: How long you want to file your brief ? 
Mr. Allen: If we could have ten days, your honor. 
The Court: All right. That will make it by the 

—by the 19th, February 19. Will that be enough 
time for you all, Mr. Robison?

Mr. Phelps: Yes, sir.
Mr. Robison: All right, sir.
The Court: I need to get an order out sufficiently 

prior to this next—to this freedom of choice period
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here. That should be the latest.
Mr. Allen: We would like to submit a proposed 

order, if that—the court would—



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The Court: Yes; that will be all right. You may, 
also. We will recess until further order.

Court Reporter’s Certificate (omitted in printing)
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(N o t e : This transcript is an excerpt transcript contain­
ing the testimony of H erman  L. S cott as given 
in hearing in above case on February 9, 1968, 
and of his testimony only.)

H erm an  L. S cott, witness for the Plaintiffs, having been 
duly sworn, testified as follows:

Direct Examination by Mr. Gray:

Q. State your name, please? A. Herman L. Scott.
Q. Your occupation, Mr. Scott? A. Executive Secretary 

of the Alabama High School Athletic Association.
Q. How long have you held that position? A. Almost 

two years.
Q. Tell us, sir, what is the Alabama High School Athletic 

Association? A. The Alabama High School Athletic As­
sociation is an organization made up by its member schools 
for the purpose of regulating athletics in those schools.

Q. "What connection, if any, does that association have 
with the State of Alabama? A. None.

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Q. Where your offices are located? A. In the State Office 

Building.
Q. And does the Association pay rent for those facilities? 

A. The State Board of Education has granted the Alabama 
High School Athletic Association office space since it was 
started and employed a fulltime secretary.

Q. Now, your secretary—



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The Court: You mean the State employs the sec­
retary?

Witness: No—excuse me; the State Department 
of Education.

Q. The State Department of Education supplies your 
association with office space? A. Yes.

Q. And supplies your association with a fulltime paid 
secretary? A. No.

Q. Correct me then? A. Our association pays all of its 
employees from its own revenue income.

Q. I thought I understood you to say something about 
a secretary? A. I am the Executive Secretary.

Q. And who pays you? A. The Association.
Q. Now, does the State of Alabama pay anyone else 

connected with your association? A. It pays no one.
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Q. Did you make a statement, sir, initially about a secre­
tary or something that— A. If I did—

Q. —it supplied? A. I f I did, it was in error.
Q. Okay. Now, what about—you said the Association 

consists of its member schools— A. Right.
Q. —is that correct? A. Right.
Q. What are the qualifications for membership in your 

association? A. That a school be accredited by the State 
Department of Education; that its principal make applica­
tion to its Central Board of Control; and that this member­
ship be accepted by the Central Board of Control.

Q. Now, approximately how many members have you 
throughout the State? Member schools? A. Three hun­
dred and sixty-seven.

Q. And how many of those are Negro? A. None.



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Q. Have there ever been any Negro schools a member of 
the Association? A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. How long have you been connected with the Associa- 
ation? A. As Executive Secretary?

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Q. Yes, sir? A. Almost two years.
Q. And in any other capacity? A. That is the only time 

under fulltime—in a fulltime capacity. I coached in one of 
the high schools in the State for fourteen years, hut that is 
not in an official capacity with the Association.

Q. All right; now, at any time, did the Alabama High 
School Athletic Association have racial restrictions against 
Negro members? A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. Have you ever had any Negro members? A. Have 
we ever had any Negro members?

Q. Any Negro school members? A. Not to my knowl­
edge.

Q. Has the Association—are Negro schools eligible for 
membership? A. Yes.

Q. Has the Association made known to these Negro 
schools that they are—that they will be considered for 
membership? A. It hasn’t been asked.

Q. And have you volunteered this information? A. No.
Q. Has there been any discussion between your associ­

ation and— strike that. Do you know whether or not there 
is another athletic association in the State? A. Yes.

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Q. What is the name of it? A. Alabama Interscholastic 

Athletic Association.
Q. And what association—is that the association for 

Negro schools? A. That is my understanding.
Q. Is there any working relationship existing between 

the Alabama High School Athletic Association and the



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Alabama Interscholastic Athletic Association? A. They 
are both independent organizations. Up until this year, the 
Alabama High School Athletic Association conducted some 
of the officials’ clinics for the Alabama Interscholastic Ath­
letic Association.

Q. Has there been any consideration of merger between 
the two organizations? A. No.

Q. Do you foresee any difficulty in merging these two 
athletic associations? A. I see no necessity of it.

Q. Do you see any necessity for the existence of the two 
organizations? A. Well, each school has its own oppor­
tunity to join the association that it chooses; and in years 
past, those schools have chosen to join the respective as­
sociations as far as I know.

Q. Well, now, actually, Mr. Scott, in years past, isn’t it 
a fact that the Alabama High School Athletic Association 
wouldn’t accept Negro schools before the court order? Isn’t 
that a fact; if one had applied, they wouldn’t be accepted in 
membership? A. I don’t know.

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Q. As—in addition to your membership, so far as schools 
are concerned, do you have any individual members; that 
is, are school principals members, and are coaches mem­
bers, also? A. It is an organization made up of institu­
tional membership.

Q. And if an institution becomes a member, does that 
mean the coach and the principal of that school is also a 
member? A. The principal is held responsible for the 
action of his school, but the institution maintains the mem­
bership.

Q. Well, now— A. It is not—it is not an organization 
of individual memberships.



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Q. But, now, how is the—  A. We have an auxiliary of 
the coaches’ association, which is an auxiliary of the Ala­
bama High School Athletic Association; it is called the 
Alabama High School Coaches’ Association.

Q. Now, that is an auxiliary or subsidiary of the Ala­
bama High School Athletic Association? A. Right; right.

Q. Now, tell me, do you know whether or not the State 
of Alabama State Department of Education provides the 
Alabama Interscholastic Athletic Association with office 
space as they do your association? A. It is my understand­
ing that their offices are at Alabama State.

Q. Alabama State— A. College.
Q. — College? Now, how is the voting done; is each 

school given a vote, or just what happens? A. Each school
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has one vote.
Q. One vote; and that vote is exercised by the coach or 

by the principal? A. By the principal as head of the 
school; he may designate this power to the coach or some 
other faculty member.

Q. Now, is there any geographical regions of your as­
sociations—of your association? A. Geographical regions ?

Q. Regions or zones or areas? A. It takes in those 
schools in the State of Alabama.

Q. What I am asking is whether or not the State is in 
turn divided into six zones? A. Various districts?

Q. All right? A. Athletic districts; eight in the State.
Q. Eight athletic districts; and what district is the Mont­

gomery School System in? A. Third.
Q. Does your association sets up rules and regulations 

with respect to athletic contests in the various schools? 
A. That is true.



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Q. What are these rules so far as eligibility is concerned? 
A. Our eligibility rules deal with the age of a student, his 
academic achievement, the number of semesters that he 
has been in school, and the transfer group.

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Q. What control, if any, does your association have over 
its members so far as playing teams who are not members 
of your association ? A. WTe state in our rules that a school 
may not play a school that is not a member of the Associa­
tion if that school is eligible for membership in the Asso­
ciation.

Q. And you say the only criteria for membership in the 
Association is that the school be accredited by the State of 
Alabama; is that right? A. And that its principal files 
application for membership.

Q. All right. So now, if we take an example of Carver 
High School, here in the City, that is accredited, if Lanier 
High School as one of your members were to play Carver 
High School, what action, if any, could your association 
take against Lanier? A. If one of our schools plays any 
school that is not a member of the Association, but is quali­
fied to be a member of the Association and through their 
own choosing is not one, then that school may be disciplined 
for this action; it may be fined, it may be put on probation, 
it could be suspended from the Association.

Q. Now, has your association or has any of the school 
principals or school superintendents—

The Court: The effect of this rule, then, is that 
no white—that no school that is a member—that any 
school that is a member of your association that 
plays a Negro school is subject to be suspended or 
fined?



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Witness: It has nothing to do with race, Judge, 
at all.

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The Court: No; but you don’t have any Negro 
schools that belong—

Witness: No.
The Court: — so the effect of it, then, if any mem­

ber school of your association plays a Negro school 
in the State, they are subject to be disciplined or 
fined?

Witness: That presently is not a member of our 
association if that school is eligible for membership.

The Court: You say they are eligible?
Witness: If they are eligible; yes, sir.
The Court: You say the Negro schools are eli­

gible ?
Witness: If they are accredited, they are eligible; 

yes, sir.
The Court: Yes; I understand.

Q. Now, correct me if I am wrong; I think you said that 
they must be accredited, and they must be voted on by your 
Central— A. Central Board accepts their application.

Q. All right; now, who is the Central Board? A. The 
Central Board is made up of one representative from the 
eight athletic districts making an eight-man Board.

Q. And actually, each one of these eight persons ulti­
mately represents a school or is from a school? A. He 
represents his district, but he is from a school; yes.

Q. That’s right. A. He is a school person; he is either 
a principal, a teacher, or a coach in the school.



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Q. Now, in deciding upon or in acting upon membership, 

is it more or less customary, if the school is accredited, is 
it more or less routine for the governing body to act favor­
ably on an application? A. To my knowledge, we have 
never denied one.

Q. Never denied one? A. (Nodded to indicate affirma­
tive reply)

Q. Now, has there been any discussion in any of your 
meetings with respect to accepting Negroes, Negro schools 
or predominantly Negro schools into membership? A. Has 
there been any discussion of it ?

Q. Yes, sir? A. Well, I am sure that we have all dis­
cussed Negro schools since the court order came into effect, 
and this has been discussed from time to time.

Q. Has any action been taken? A. No action.
Q. As Executive Secretary—I think that is your title— 

A. Right.
Q. —have you made any recommendations to your gov­

erning body as to what action should be taken? A. We 
have had no cause to.

Q. You do not consider the fact that you still have two 
dual athletic systems in the State, there is no cause for it? 
A. I consider the fact that we have not had a membership

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submitted and no reason to take action.

Q. I show you, sir—

The Clerk: Plaintiffs’ Exhibit number 1 for iden­
tification.

Q. I show you Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 1 for identification; 
will you identify this for us, please? A. This is a Hand­



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book of the Alabama High School Athletic Association 
which lists in it the constitution and bylaws of the Asso­
ciation.

Q. And that is the Association we have been talking 
about? A. Yes, sir.

Mr. Gray: We offer that in evidence as Plaintiffs’ 
Exhibit 1.

Q. Now—

The Court: It will be admitted.

Q. —will you tell me, sir; is that document, Plaintiffs’ 
Exhibit 1, published by the Alabama State Department of 
Education? A. It is listed as a publication of the Alabama 
State Department of Education; I cannot speak prior to 
my becoming Executive Secretary, but since I have been 
Executive Secretary, the Alabama Athletic Association has 
paid for that publication. It also lists in the front of it the 
organization for health, physical education, and recreation 
in the State.

The Court: The State Board pay for it, or who 
pays for it?

Witness: We pay, or the Alabama High School
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Athletic Association, since I have been there, Judge.

Q. But it is considered an official publication of the State 
Board of Education? A. That’s right.

Mr. Gray: I believe that’s all.
The Court: For the Government?



735

By Mr. Allen:
Q. Just one question; does anyone from your association 

actually participate in the scheduling of athletic contests 
between the different schools? A. That is left up entirely 
to the schools.

Q. That is done by the authorities at the school, itself? 
A. Right.

Mr. Allen: That’s all.
The Court: All right.

Cross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. Mr. Scott, what is the purpose of your organization? 
A. The purpose of the Alabama High School Athletic Asso­
ciation is to regulate and to control athletics in its member 
schools.

Q. Is it comparable to the Southeastern Conference and 
the Atlantic Coast Conferences and other conferences that 
are controlled by the associations? A. This is the type 
organization it is. These conferences, of course, are known 
throughout the Nation in colleges; in high schools; various

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national organizations, such as the N.C. double A., the 
N.A.I.A., are in the various regions of the country, such 
as Southeastern Conference, such as the Atlantic Coast 
Conference, as the Big Ten, the Pacific Coast Conferences, 
and things of that nature.

Q. What—how long—what was the history for the for­
mation of this organization? A. I guess really we might 
can go hack many, many years ago when in athletics there 
was an awful lot of trouble, and I guess it goes hack to 
the game of football, itself, which in the days of Teddy



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Roosevelt and during his administration there was a con­
gressional investigation committee formed to investigate 
football as it was being played in the colleges of the Nation. 
The reason for this was because of the old flying wedge 
that was being used by football teams at that time and the 
fact that so many people were being injured or killed with 
the old flying wedge, so they set up a congressional inves­
tigation committee, and as the story goes, football was 
about to be banned from these institutions by the Congress 
of the United States, and they called Knute Rockne, who 
was then coach at Notre Dame, to testify before the com­
mittee or to tell something about football, and in essence, 
what Coach Rockne told them was that there had to be 
some type of activity in the schools of the Nation that 
would give every red-blooded American boy the oppor­
tunity to go out and to compete in some type of combative 
sport where there was contact, that this was an innate

— 686-

desire in people to— and particularly young people—to 
strike back, to want to strike hack, and if it was not given 
some avenue of escape through some type of organization, 
it would manifest itself in the back alleys of the cities and 
towns of the Nation with knives and blackjacks and brass 
knucks and this type— and this type thing. So the com­
mittee made the recommendation that a body be formed 
to draw up rules whereby that this game could be played. 
And in essence, this was the beginning of the N.C. double 
A., the National Collegiate Athletic Association, which con­
trols the athletics in the colleges and universities of the 
Nation, of the land, today. And all of these other organi­
zations had their beginnings in their regions and in their 
states from the same—from this same cause. In essence, 
the reason that the Alabama High School Athletic Asso­



737

ciation was formed in the State of Alabama was so that 
the people that were representing the schools would he 
true students. Years ago, they brought them out of the 
coal mines, they brought them from the saw mill, and they 
brought them off the farm.

The Court: I believe that is enough of that; let’s 
get along.

Mr. Robison: All right, sir.

Q. What activities do you conduct or is under the spon­
sorship of your association with respect to coaches and so 
forth for the conference? A. What activities?

— 687—

Q. Yes, sir? A. We conduct the All Star football games 
Avhich are played at the University of Alabama each fall. 
We also conduct, in connection with the University of Ala­
bama, a coaches’ clinic held at the University in the fall.

Q. Do you also conduct schools with respect to referees 
and officials for the games? A. We carry on an officials’ 
training program.

Q. Is race a factor in membership in your association? 
A. No, sir.

Q. What— state to me again, what is the only require­
ment for membership in your association? A. That a 
school he accredited by the State Department of Educa­
tion; that its principal submit an application to the Cen­
tral Board of Control; and that the Board give this 
application due consideration.

Q. Have you ever denied any application that has been 
filed with your association where the student body was 
predominantly of the Negro race? A. To my knowledge; 
no.



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Q. The requirement of your association, as I understand 
it, is that if a member school plays a school which is not 
a member or an application has not been filed for member­
ship, then disciplinary action can be taken against that 
school? A. Only— only if this school is eligible for mem­
bership; if it is an unaccredited high school in the State, 
then, of course, the schools may play them at their own risk.

— 688—

Q. You were asked about the Alabama Interscholastic 
Athletic Association; are you familiar wth that associa­
tion? A. Only that it is a comparable organization to the 
Alabama High School Athletic Association.

Q. Does it have the same rules and regulations, to your 
knowledge, with respect to member teams that the Ala­
bama Athletic Association has? A. Basically, their rules 
and regulations were copied from ours.

Q. Their rules and regulations were copied from yours, 
basically? A. Yes, sir.

Q. So if a member of that association, that is, the Ala­
bama Interscholastic Athletic Association, plays a school 
that is not a member of that association or is not eligible 
for membership with an application pending, then they can 
take disciplinary action against their member school; is 
that true? A. To my knowledge; that is true.

Q. You were asked if this was an official publication of 
the State Board of Education; I ask you, is that an official 
publication or an authorized publication by the State 
Board, and if so, what is in it—what is the difference? A. 
This is authorized by the State Board of Education, a pub­
lication authorized by the State Board, meaning that it is 
published and sent out to all of the schools in the State of 
Alabama which are members of the Alabama High School 
Athletic Association or any schools which have the organi­



739

zation of health, physical education, and recreation in it.
— 689—

Q. Does the State Board of Education have anything to 
do with the approval of these rules and regulations? A. 
Not to my knowledge.

The Court: Why does it take the authority of the 
State Board of Education to send this out; you say 
they authorize you to do it?

Witness: The organization of health, physical 
education, and recreation, Judge, is worked through 
the State Department of Education in the Division 
of Secondary Schools headed up by Dr. Blair. Mr. 
Charlie Stapp is in charge of that program, and 
athletics have always been a natural outgrowth of 
the physical education program in the schools.

The Court: Considered—
Witness: Physical education is a required course 

in the school; athletics, of course, is an extracur­
ricular activity carrying no credit or no require­
ment to it, and the rules and regulations and guide­
lines of health, physical education is in that book 
along with the rules and regulations of athletics, in 
that athletics are a natural outgrowth of the physical 
education program.

The Court: All right; let’s get along.

Q. Are the member schools in your association desegre­
gated? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Do you recall the game played here in Montgomery 
at which time Tuscaloosa had predominantly a Negro team

— 690—

on the field playing either Lee or Lanier? A. It had six 
at one time out there, the best that I remember.



740

Mr. Robison: I believe that’s all.
The Court: Mr. Allen?

Redirect Examination by Mr. Allen:

Q. You mentioned that you conduct coaches’ clinics; have 
there ever been any Negroes at those coaches’ clinics? A. 
Yes, sir.

Q. How many and when? A. I couldn’t say exactly how 
many; I have been going to those clinics for seventeen— 
eighteen years, and to my knowledge, they have always 
been in attendance; some have always been there.

Mr. Allen: All right; that’s all.
Mr. Gray: We have no further questions.
Mr. Robison: Like to ask you one further ques­

tion.

Recross Examination by Mr. Robison:

Q. What is the purpose of the rule prohibiting a member 
school in your association from playing a non-member 
school of your association; is it race? A. No, sir; the 
purpose of that rule is that all schools will play by the 
same rules; in other words, that the age of the students 
will be the same, that the academic requirements will be 
the same, that the number of semesters spent in school 
will be the same, and that the transfer rule would apply

— 691—

the same way, that they all play equally as far as those 
students who represent them on the field are concerned 
according to the eligibility requirements.

The Court: Does the Interscholastic Association, 
the Negro association, have the same rule?



741

Witness: To my knowledge, they do, Judge.
The Court: All right.
Witness: Or similar rules.
The Court: All right. Anything else?
Mr. Allen: Nothing further.
The Court: Let me ask you a question or two. 

Have you conferred with Rutland and Livings on the 
eligibility of the players over there the first year 
for the Jeff Davis School?

Witness: Only these students, Judge, which might 
transfer.

The Court: Have you conferred with them on that 
problem ?

Witness: With the County Board of Education 
and these principals of the Montgomery city schools.

The Court: Have you conferred with the new 
principal of the Jeff Davis School and the new coach 
at the Jeff Davis School on the eligibility of their 
players this first year?

Witness: For those that transfer from Lee or 
Lanier; yes, sir.

The Court: And what did you all determine on 
that?

— 6 9 2 -
Witness: We set up a rule whereby that those 

students who are presently enrolled in Lee or Lanier 
could transfer to the new school provided that they 
live closer to the new school than they do to the 
school they are now attending. Ordinarily, these 
students would be ineligible to transfer from one 
school to another, that is, transfer their athletic 
eligibility.

The Court: And play the first year?



742

Witness: And play the first year.
The Court: And what did you determine as far as 

Negro athletes were concerned1?
Witness: The court order takes precedence there 

in that if a student is transferring for the first time 
on a desegregated basis, that he is ruled eligible 
to participate in that school, because the Board of 
Education transferred him over there.

The Court: He doesn’t have any waiting period; 
the Negro transferring doesn’t have any waiting pe­
riod?

Witness: This has been the ruling we have gone 
along with in our association.

The Court: That’s right; that is set out, of course, 
in the court order.

Witness: That’s right; that is why these other 
students were not considered, and only those schools 
— those students from Lee and Lanier.

The Court: Yes. Do you know who was instru­
mental in the publicity that leaves the impression

— 693—
that only athletes transferring that live close to 
the Jeff Davis School will be eligible to play? Here 
is one by Walter Massey that says that; I just 
wondered if you knew who was responsible for that 
interpretation of the rule?

Witness: No, sir; this is the first time I have seen 
this article, Judge.

The Court: Uh, huh.
Witness: Of •;course, it is general knowledge, 

and—
The Court: Would you say it was general knowl­

edge that Negro athletes had a right to transfer



743

from publicity like that? If they didn’t live near 
that school?

Witness: I don’t know how this might he inter­
preted.

The Court: How do you interpret it along that 
line?

Witness: Well, I thought it was common knowl­
edge that—

The Court: How do you interpret that along that 
line?

(Witness examined Exhibit.)

The Court: Pretty difficult to interpret, isn’t it?
Witness: Well, Judge—
The Court: So as—
Witness: —in my—in my opinion, all school peo­

ple know about the court order.
The Court: What we are interested in is students 

that may want to transfer and not school people 
that have studied this court order and talked with 
the Judges and the lawyers about it.

Witness: Yes, sir; of course, we don’t have any-
— 694—

thing to do with what they publish and how it is 
published.

The Court: I  don’t guess I am concerned in this 
case with the zones that you all may have agreed on 
as far as your transferrers from Lee and Lanier, 
from your white schools; I wouldn’t think the court 
would be concerned with that; that just has to do 
with—I understand you have established some 
zones?

Witness: Yes, sir; just for eligibility purposes.



74 4

The Court: That just has to do with your white 
athletes—

Witness: That’s right.
The Court: —that are transferring?
Witness: That’s right; that is why we said Lee 

and Lanier.
The Court: All right. That’s all I want to ask him.
Mr. Gray: I have no further questions. Plaintiffs 

rest.
The Court: All right. You want to excuse this wit­

ness?
Mr. Robison: Yes, sir.
The Court: You are excused.
Witness: Thank you.

(End of testimony of Herman L. Scott)

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Court Reporter’s Certificate (omitted in printing)



745

Order Granting Expedited Hearing

(Filed March 12, 1968)

- 698-

In the
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS 

F oe the F ifth Circuit 

No. 25865

M ontgomery County B oard of Education, et al.,

— versus—
Appellants,

Art,am Carr, Jr., a minor, by A rlam Carr, and Johnnie 
Carr, his parents and next friends, et al.,

Appellees.

APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
FOR THE MIDDLE DISTRICT OF ALABAMA

B e f o r e  :
Brown, Chief Judge, and 

A insworth and Godbold, Circuit Judges.

B y  the Court :

It is ordered that the joint motion of the parties filed 
in the captioned cause for an expedited hearing and sub­
mission of the appeal on the original record and on type­
written briefs be hereby Granted, provided two (2) extra,



746

xeroxed copies of the original record are prepared after 
the record has been appropriately indexed, numbered and 
certified by the Clerk of the District Court, and are fur­
nished by appellants for the use and convenience of the 
Court.

Four (4) legible xeroxed copies of the typewritten briefs 
prepared in the form required by this Court’s Rule 26 
may be filed and exchanged by all parties by not later than 
April 23, 1968, with appellants’ xeroxed brief to be filed 
and served on all opposing parties by April 5, and with 
appellees’ brief to be filed by not later than April 25. The 
Clerk is authorized to calendar this case for hearing at the 
earliest practicable date consistent with other require­
ments of the docket.

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District Court Clerk’s Certificate of Completeness of 

Record, Dated March 20, 1968 (omitted in printing)



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- 7 0 0 -
Notice o f  Cross Appeal by Am icus Curiae

(Filed April 11, 1968)

I n  th e

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

F or th e  M iddle D istrict of A labama 
N orthern D ivision

Civil Action No. 2072-N

A rlam  Carr, et al.,
Plaintiffs,

U nited S tates of A merica,

Amicus Curiae,
— v.—

M ontgomery Cou nty  B oard of E ducation, et al.,

Defendants.

Notice is hereby given that the United States, amicus 
curiae herein, hereby cross-appeals to the United States 
Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit from the Orders 
of the United States District Court for the Middle District 
of Alabama, Northern Division, entered February 24, 1968 
and March 2, 1968, which denied the requested relief that 
the faculties of all new schools in Montgomery County be 
fully desegregated.



748

— 701—
To allow sufficient time for the parties to reply prior 

to the argument now set for May 6, 1968, in Atlanta, 
Georgia, the United States will file one principal brief as 
appellee and cross-appellant on April 15, 1968.

F ran k  D . A lle n , J r . 

Attorney
U. S. Department of Justice

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Certificate of Service (omitted in printing)



749

Argument and Submission
- 703-

Extract from the Minutes of May 6,1968 

No. 25865

U nited  S tates of A merica, 

versus

M ontgomery County  B oard of E ducation, et al.

On this day this cause was called, and after argument 
by Nathan Lewin, Attorney, Department of Justice, for 
appellant, and V. H. Robison, Esq., and Joseph Phelps, 
Esq., for appellees, was submitted to the Court.



750
— 704—

Opinion and Judgment 
Dated August 1, 1968

IN THE

United States Court of Appeals
FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT

N o . 2 5 8 6 5

MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION,
ET AL,

Appellants,
versus

ARLAM CARR, JR., a minor, by ARLAM CARR, 
and JOHNNIE CARR, his parents and next friends,

ET AL,
Appellees.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

versus
Appellant,

MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION,
ET AL,

Appellees.

A p p e a ls  fr o m  th e U n ited  S ta tes  D istric t C ou rt fo r  th e  
M id d le D istric t o f A la b a m a

(August 1, 1968)

B efore G E W IN  and T H O R N B E R R Y , Circuit Judges, 
and E L L IO T T , D istrict Judge.



751

GEWIN, Circuit Judge: The United States and ap­
pellees filed motions in the United States District Court 
for the Middle District of Alabama on August 17, 1967, 
and February 7, 1968, requesting the district court to 
require appellants to take further steps to eliminate 
the dual school system in Montgomery County, Ala­
bama. Hearings were held on September 5, 1967 and 
February 9, 1968. The district court entered its order 
on February 24, 1968, amended March 2, 1968, granting 
specific relief in the areas of faculty desegregation, 
student teacher and substitute teacher desegregation, 
school construction, student transportation, and stu­
dent choices regarding newly constructed schools. This 
appeal followed. We affirm the order of the district 
court as hereinafter modified.

We see no need to recite the history of the school 
board’s efforts to com ply with the constitutional man­
date to desegregate its public schools. However, we 
note that progress has been made and that the school 
board has been complimented on its good faith efforts. 
We do not wish unduly to emphasize or de-emphasize 
good faith on the part of this particular board of educa­
tion, but we do take note of the fact that this is the very 
first time it has been before this court. This case does 
not bear the “ many service stripes” mentioned in 
United States v. Board of Educ. of Bessemer, 5 Cir.
1968, ____  F.2d ____  [Nos. 25809, 25810, 25811, June 3,
1968], See also Davis v. Board of School Com m ’rs of 
Mobile, 393 F.2d 690 (5 Cir. 1968).’ In our view, good

— 705—

’ In D avis, the court mentioned the fact that the case involving 
Moibile schools had been before the Fifth Circuit five times 
since 1963. 393 F.2d at 691 n.l.



752

faith conduct on the part of any litigant in any court, 
especially a court of equity and, m ore particularly, in 
the sensitive area of desegregation, is a vital element 
for appropriate consideration. Our feeling with respect 
to good faith is buttressed by the recent decision of 
the Supreme Court in Green v. School Bd. of New
K en t,____ U.S______ , 20 L.Ed.2d 716 (1968).2 Some five
times, during the period from  1964 to 1967, the district 
court publicly complimented the M ontgomery County 
School Board on its efforts toward achieving desegre­
gation.3

- 706-

zThere is no universal answer to com plex problems of desegrega­
tion; there is obviously no one plan that will do the job  in 
every case. The matter must be assessed in light o f the circu m ­
stances p resen t and the options available in each instance. It is 
incumbent upon the school board to establish that its proposed 
plan promises meaningful and immediate progress toward dis­
establishing state-imposed segregation. It is incumbent upon 
the district court to weigh that claim in light of the facts at 
hand* 1 and in light of any alternatives which may be shown as 
feasible and m ore promising in their effectiveness. Where the 
court finds the board to be acting in good  faith  and the pro­
posed plan to have real prospects for dismantling the sitate- 
iimposed dual system “ at the earliest practicable date,”  then 
the plan may be said to. provide effective relief. Of course, 
where other, more promising courses of action are open to 
the board, they may indicate a lack o f good faith ; and at the 
least it places a heavy burden upon the board to explain its 
preference for an apparently less effective method'. 20 L.Ed.2d 
at 724 (emphasis added).

sAt the conclusion of a hearing on May 25, 1967, the court made 
the following statement from the bench:

I would like to say this to you here in the presence of 
the plaintiffs and the Government lawyers; that I am 
impressed that the Montgomery County Superintendent 
of Education and members o f the Montgomery County 
School Board of Education now evidence and have in 
the past evidenced a desire and intent to operate a 
school system here in Montgomery County as profes-



753

It is not necessary to discuss all of the provisions of 
the district court’s order. Appellants challenge that 
portion of the order which directs them (1) to assign 
and transfer faculty members, student teachers, and 
substitute teachers throughout all schools in the sys­
tem and from  one school to another according to a fixed 
mathematical ratio based on race, and (2) to give af­
firm ative preference to Negro students who choose to 
attend a newly constructed high school. That part of 
the court’s order challenged on appeal is set forth 
below:

— 707—

sional educators and not as politicians. This present atti­
tude is demonstrated here at this time; this past con­
duct on the part of these officials has, without any 
doubt, inured to the benefit of the students regardless of 
their race, in Montgomery County that seek quality 
education. And I have observed and I have been im­
pressed that these officials have accomplished this 
largely through —  or this has been accomplished 
largely through their efforts and without any serious 
discord1 or disruption as far as any school is concerned.
This, when it is compared with some other similar 
operations is a considerable feat, for which this com­
munity, in my judgment, owes these school officials 
their appreciation. It evidences a pattern of professional 
conduct that other systems could, for the benefit of 
their students, emulate.
Again on September 5, 1967, at the conclusion of a hearing 

which apparently formed a partial basis for the order now 
under consideration, the court stated from the bench:

You are dealing here with a school system that you 
haven’t had to take to your appellate courts a single 
time since you started. It is the only major school sys­
tem in the State that you haven’t had to do it on; that 
they have done what they have done in good faith, and 
they had been ahead of most of your other systems in 
every field.



754

I. F A C U L T Y  A N D  S T A F F

A. S ta tem en t of O b je c tiv e .
In achieving the objective of the school sys­

tem , that the pattern of teacher assignm ents to 
any particular school shall not be identifiable 
as tailored for a heavy concentration of either 
N egro or white pupils in the school, the school 
board will be guided by the ratio of N egro to 
white faculty m em bers in the school system  as 
a whole.

The school board will accom plish faculty de­
segregation by hiring and assigning faculty  
m em bers so that in each school the ratio of 
white to N egro faculty m em bers is substan­
tially the sam e as it is throughout the system .
A t present, the ratio is approxim ately 3 to 2.
This will be accom plished in accordance with 
the schedule set out below.

B. S ch ed u le fo r  F a cu lty  D eseg reg a tio n .
1. 1968-69. A t every school with few er than 

12 teachers, the board will have at least one 
full-tim e teacher whose race is different from  
the race of the m ajority  of the faculty and staff 
m em bers at the school.

A t every school with 12 or m ore teachers, the 
race of at least one of every six faculty and 
staff m em bers will be different from  the race  
of the m ajority  of the faculty and staff m e m ­
bers at the school. This Court will reserve, for

— 708—



755

the time being, other specific faculty and staff 
desegregation requirements for future years.

C. Means of Accomplishment.
If the school board is unable to achieve 

faculty desegregation by inducing voluntary 
transfers or by filling vacancies, then it will 
do so by the assignment and transfer of teach­
ers from  one school to another.

D. Substitute Teachers.
Commencing in September, 1968, with the 

1968-69 school year, the ratio of the number 
of days taught by white substitute teachers 
to the number of days taught by Negro sub­
stitute teachers at each school during each 
semester will be substantially the same as the 
ratio of white substitute teachers to Negro 
substitute teachers on the list of substitute 
teachers at the beginning of the semester.

Commencing with the 1968-69 school year, 
the board will not use an individual as a sub­
stitute teacher in the Montgomery Public 
Schools if he will consent to substitute only at 
predominantly white schools or only at pre­
dominantly Negro schools.

E. Student Teachers.
Commencing in September, 1968, with the 

1968-69 school year, the ratio of white to Negro 
student teachers each semester in each school 
that uses student teachers will be substan-



756

tially the same as the ratio of white and Negro 
student teachers throughout the system.

F. Night Schools.
Commencing June 1, 1968, the ratio of white 

to Negro faculty m embers at each night school 
will be substantially the same as the ratio of 
white to Negro faculty m em bers throughout 
the night-school program.

IV. JEFFERSON DAVIS HIGH SCHOOL, 
PE TER  CRUMP SCHOOL, AND SO U r^ 
LAWN SCHOOL

D. Honoring Choices.
The school board will honor the choices of 

each Negro student who chooses to attend 
Jefferson Davis High School during the 1968- 
69 school year, in the absence of compelling 
circum stances approved by the Court on the 
school board’s motion.

The district court denied appellees’ request that the 
ratio of white to Negro faculty m em bers in new 
schools be approximately three to two in their first 
year of operation. Appellees have cross-appealed on 
this issue.

— 710—

I

ASSIGNMENT OF TEACHERS

It is clear from  the record and briefs that appellants 
fully recognize that they have the affirm ative duty to



757

desegregate the faculties throughout their entire school 
system. They have been striving to carry out this duty 
by seeking and encouraging voluntary transfers of 
teachers and by requesting new teachers to accept 
positions in schools where their race is in the minority. 
Appellants further recognize that they have the legal 
right to com pel faculty assignment if voluntary place­
ment is not effective.4 However, appellants object to 
the district court’s order requiring assignment of 
teachers on the ground that such is not in keeping with 
sound and quality school administration. We quote 
from  appellants’ brief:

In Beckett v. School Board of City of Norfolk. 
Virginia, 269 F. Supp. 118, at page 139 (E.D. Va. 
May, 1967) the Court stated, in considering 
faculty desegregation:

However, in line with the most re­
cent Wheeler case [Wheeler v. Dur­
ham City Board of Education, 363 F.2d 
738], the School Board has not adopted

— 711—

^Although appellants consistently argue for voluntary assignment 
of teachers and staff and contend that “ sound and quality 
school administration” favors voluntary assignment, the fol­
lowing statement from appellants’ brief shows clearly that 
they recognize their obligation:

These appellants fully recognize that they have the 
affirmative duty to desegregate the faculty throughout 
this school system to the end that “ the pattern of teacher 
assignment to any particular school shall not be identi­
fied as tailored for a heavy concentration of either 
Negro or white pupils in the schools.”  (R.p.370 and 
U .S. v . J efferson  C ou n ty B oard o f Education, 372 F.2d 
836; aff’d en banc, 380 F.2d 385) The appellant recog­
nizes further that they have the legal right to compel 
faculty assignment if voluntary placement is not ef­
fective.



758

the tactic of compelling a teacher to 
transfer. Moreover, such a practice 
would not he in accord with sound edu­
cational principles. (Emphasis sup­
plied)

The question of whether a school board is obligated 
to assign teachers to schools where their race is in 
the minority when efforts to persuade teachers volun­
tarily to accept such positions fail, has recently been 
before this court. United States v. Board of Educ. of 
Bessemer, supra. That opinion answers the above ques­
tion with an emphatic yes. We quote:

The School Boards do not meet their duty 
by soliciting volunteers. For the fact remains 
that the “ responsibility for faculty desegre­
gation, just as the responsibility of student de­
segregation, lies ultimately with the board, not 
the teachers.” Davis v. Board of School Com­
missioners of Mobile County, 5 Cir. 1968, 393 
F.2d 690. So there will be no mistake about it 
we spell out that Jefferson stands for the prop­
osition that there is an affirmative duty on 
the part of the School Boards to do everything 
— the word is everything — within their power 
to meet the decree-im posed complete de­
segregation of faculties. It is not, it cannot be, 
left to the voluntariness of teacher applicants 
or transfers.

We therefore find no error in the court’s order requir­
ing the assignment of teachers since efforts to achieve 
faculty desegregation by voluntary means have failed.

— 712—



759

— 713—

II

FIXED MATHEMATICAL RATIO

Appellants strenuously object to the imposition of the 
mathematical ratios contained in the district court’s 
order. They contend that such ratios are arbitrary and 
unwarranted in view of their extensive plans to de­
segregate their faculties, their showing of good faith, 
and the overall achievement of progress in the area. 
In addition, appellants submit that a fixed ratio does 
not take into consideration the availability of teaching 
personnel or the com plexity of school administration, 
and that it ignores the goal of quality education and 
other similar factors which are inevitably involved in 
the operation of a school system.

After extensive hearings, the court below found that 
desegregation of faculties in the M ontgomery County 
school system was lagging and that appellants had 
failed to com ply with earlier orders of the court requir­
ing full faculty desegregation. In order to rem edy the 
lack of faculty integration, the court imposed specific 
targets for the school year 1968-69 and, m ore specifical­
ly, delineated what would be required for satisfactory 
com pliance. Thus, under the district court’s order for 
the school year 1968-69, most schools in Montgomery 
County must have roughly one-sixth of the faculty and 
staff o f a race different from  that of the other five- 
sixths. The school board will have achieved full com ­
pliance when the ratio of white to Negro teachers is 
three to two in each school. At the outset we note that



760

the testimony of school officials indicates a need for 
specific directives in the instant case.5

— 714—

5The following is an excerpt of the testimony of Associate Super­
intendent W. S. Garrett:
Q. As part of your duties, have you been given the re­

sponsibility, primarily, of carrying out faculty de­
segregation?

A. Well, the superintendent has delegated the recom­
mending of the best faculty members that I can come 
by, and desegregation is a large —  our faculty is a 
large part of my responsibilities; not the only one, 
but that has been discussed and —  with the Board 
and with the superintendent, and we have a plan to 
accomplish this, have been working on it all year.

Q. Well, under your plan, when do you estimate that 
faculty desegregation will be finally accomplished 
in terms of the objective of the court order remov­
ing —

A. Well, now, that is something I don’t know, because 
I don’t know what the objectives o f the court order 
are. That has never been laid down in any percentage 
fashion that I know of. It says that you will have rea­
sonable desegregation of faculty and that you will 
strive toward having each faculty not recognizable 
as being staffed for a particular race. That is what I 
get out of it.

Q. Well, let —
A. So I —  I can’t —  this court order is in fairly 

general terms; I can’t answer that question.
Q. Well, you made the statement about having schools 

staffed so that they will not be recognizable as for 
a particular race; when do you expect that that will be 
accomplished?

A. Well, that would depend on what the Board’s defi­
nition of that is, the court’s definition of that.

Q. Do you have a definition of that?
A. Not at this point; we have discussed that many times, 

and I do not have a definition of —  of what that 
would mean.

Q. No one has told you, given you a definition in terms 
of mechanics, in terms of numbers, none of your 
superiors?

A. No, as far as I know, no other school personnel man



761

In United States v. Jefferson County Board of Educ., 
372 F.2d 836 (5 Cir. 1966), aff’ d en banc, 380 F.2d 385 (5 
Cir. 1967), cert, denied, 389 U.S. 840 (1967), we dealt with 
faculty desegregation. Following Jefferson the ques­
tion of faculty desegregation has recently been before 
this court on at least three separate occasions. Stell v. 
Board of Educ. of Savannah, 387 F.2d 486 (5 Cir. 1967); 
Davis v. Board of School Comm ’rs of Mobile, supra; 
and United States v. Board of Educ. of Bessemer, supra. 
We have continued to emphasize the responsibility of 
school boards in achieving effective faculty desegre­
gation. We have emphasized the desirability of their 
doing so because of their expertise in the field of edu­
cation. Nevertheless, we have made it clear that it is 
the duty of district courts to require specific target 
dates and accomplishments in order to ensure full 
com pliance with all deliberate speed. Moreover, it is 
clear from  recent decisions of the Supreme Court that 
the type of plan under which school boards should op­
erate is a plan which works. Green v. County Bd. of 
New Kent, supra; Monroe v. Board of Com m ’rs of
Jackson ,____ U.S______ , 20 L.Ed. 2d 733 (1968); Raney v.
Board of Educ. of G ould,____ U .S ._____ , 20 L.Ed.2d 727
(1968).6

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in America has. I have talked to many of them. What 
we are striving to do is to make progress and keep 
going and hope that somewhere along the line we 
will have achieved the —  what the court has in 
mind. But if you will look at that court order, you 
will see it doesn’t lay down the precise terms ex­
actly what that means; it is a broad definition.

®In both G reen  and M on roe  faculty integration was an issue be­
fore the district courts and the courts of appeals. The Supreme 
Court made no pronouncement with respect to faculty inte­
gration but apparently left that decision to the district courts



762

Immediately following the Brown decisions,7 em­
phasis was placed on the desegregation of schools from  
the point of view of the students. Faculty and staff de­
segregation are more recent. While it is obvious that 
we cannot tolerate the delay which has been ex­
perienced with respect to the desegregation of stu­
dents, the decisions, in dealing with faculty and staff, 
have indicated “the likelihood of some lessons being 
learned from  experimentation.”8 In the case sub judice, 
the district court concluded that M ontgomery County 
had not fully complied with its orders to effectuate 
desegregation of faculty, that the plan under which the 
school board had sought to integrate the faculty was

— 716—

involved under the remand orders of the Courts of Appeals 
in the two cases. The following is from the G reen  decision: 

The Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, en banc,
382 F.2d 326, 338, affirmed the District Court’s approval 
of the “ freedom -of-choice”  provisions of the plan but 
remanded the case to the District Court for entry of 
an order regarding faculty “ which is much more specific 
and more comprehensive” and which would incorporate 
in addition to a “minimal, objective time table” 
some of the faculty provisions o f the decree entered 
by the Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit in United 
States v. Jefferson County Board of Education, 372 F.2d 
836, aff’d en banc, 380 F.2d 385 (1967).

20 L.Ed. at 722.
In M on roe  the Supreme Court stated:

The Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit affirmed 
except on an issue of faculty desegregation, as to which 
the case was remanded for further proceedings.

20 L.Ed.2d at 738.
In R an ey  the Court stated: “ Faculties and staff were and 

are segregated.” 20 L.Ed.2d at 730. Faculty segregation or in­
tegration is not mentioned further in the opinion.

7Brown v. Board of Educ. of Topeka, 347 U.S. 483 (1954), and 
Brown v. Board o f Educ. of Topeka, 349 U.S. 294 (1955).

8S ee  United States v. Board of Educ. of Bessemer, supra; U nited  
States v. Jefferson County Bd. of Educ., supra at 894.



763

not adequate, and, therefore, that another m ore spe­
cific plan was necessary.

It is our conclusion that the standards fixed by courts 
with respect to faculty desegregation cannot be totally 
inflexible. In none of the three recent cases cited above, 
Stell, Davis, and Bessemer, has this court required 
faculty integration according to a numerical or racial 
percentage ratio. On the contrary, we have declined 
“ to enhance Jefferson’s demands.”9 We do not intimate 
.that there must always be a slavish and unswerving 
adherence to the precise requirements of Jefferson, 
but generally we have avidly em braced the idea of 
circuit-wide uniformity and have declined “to tinker 
with the model decree.” 10 As a matter of fact, after the 
decision of the district court in this case, we have 
actually rejected the idea of requiring mathematical 
or racial percentage ratios in dealing with faculty and 
staff. We quote from  the Bessemer decision:

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aS ee  United States v. Board of Educ. o f Bessemer, supra. 
i°A s we pointed out in United States v. Board of Educ. of Besse  ̂

mer, supra:
We must steel ourselves against the importunities to 
import inequality by judicial modifications to meet 
some supposed need of a locality. One immediate con­
sequence of such a practice would be to encourage 
others to try their hand. And soon w e’d be back in the 
school business again —  a role for which we sire not 
equipped or competent toi handle. The efforts to reduce 
the demands of Jefferson  we’ve resisted so far. S ee, 
e.g ., Barnhardt v . M eridian M unicipal Separate School
D ist., 5 Cir. 1968, ------------  F.2d — .— -—  [No. 25083,
April 24, 1968]; G aines v . D ou gh erty C ou n ty  B oard o f
Education, 5 Cir. 1968,-------------F .2 d -------------- [No. 25776,
March 14, 1968]; S tell v . Board o f Public Education fo r  
the C ity  o f Savannah , 5 Cir. 1967, 387 F.2d 486 [No. 
23724, December 4, 1967],



764

We are requested to do both too much and 
too little. The school boards with a sincerity of 
counsel we do not question, urge us, in effect, 
to do nothing specific either in terms of target 
dates or racial percentage ratios, or both. The 
government, on the other hand, proposes that 
we direct the entry of a proposed sweeping, 
detailed decree which it frankly acknowl­
edges adds to and extends Jefferson. We think 
neither alternative is wise.

We stated further:

Even though Jefferson was more equivocal on 
faculty integration and expressed the likeli­
hood of some lessons to be learned from  ex­
perimentation, we think we should apply an 
even hand to deny requests to enhance Jeffer­
son’s demands.

The decree under review states that schools with 
twelve or more faculty m em bers must begin the school 
year 1968-69 with at least one of every six faculty and 
staff m em bers being of a different race from  the 
m ajority. Because of the difficulties inherent in achiev­
ing a precise five-to-one ratio, this part of the district 
court’s order should be interpreted to mean substan­
tially or approximately five to one. The decree is m odi­
fied to this extent in order to allow a degree of flexibili­
ty in the application of the 1968-69 interim require­
ments.

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765

Additionally, whether the school board is in full 
com pliance should not be decided solely by whether 
it has achieved the requisite numerical ratios.”  The 
assignment of faculty and other staff to particular 
schools need not m irror the total faculty of the entire 
system as related to race or color. There must be a 
good faith and effective beginning and a good faith 
and effective effort to achieve faculty and staff de­
segregation for the entire system. Although a ratio of 
substantially or approximately five to one is a good 
beginning, we cannot say that a ratio of substantially 
three to two, simply because it m irrors the racial bal­
ance of the entire faculty, must be achieved as a final 
objective.'2 Consideration must be given to the avail- *

— 719—

* 'Various district courts have entered orders that contain specific 
standards and at least one appellate court has approved such 
an order. Coppedge v. Franklin County Bd. o f Educ., 273 F. 
Supp. 289 (E.D.N.C. 1967); Kier v. County School Bd. of Au­
gusta, 249 F. Supp. 239 (W.D.Va. 1966); Board of Educ. of 
Oklahoma City v. Dowell, 375 F.2d 158 (10 Cir. 1967). Also, 
though the Eighth Circuit refrained from  imposing an exact 
formula in Kelley v. Altheimer, 378 F.2d. 483 (1967), it 
specifically called the district court’s attention to percentage 
formulas set by other district courts.

' 2After the decision in Kelley v. Altheimer, supra note 11, the 
Eighth Circuit decided the case of Yarbrough v. Hulbert-West 
Memphis School Bist., 380 F.2d 962 (8 Cir. 1967). In Y arbrou gh  
that circuit rejected the idea of a mathematical formula and 
a fixed timetable and placed this interpretation upon its prior 
decision in A lth eim er :

We say in passing that this panel does not regard 
A lth eim er  as imposing any rigid mathematical formula 
which, in certain situations, could itself be arbitrary 
and without educational significance. We regard that 
case as one requiring a reluctant school board to get 
on with its task of achieving faculty and staff desegre­
gation and assignment to comport with equitable and 
constitutional requirements divorced from racial con­



766

ability of teaching personnel, sound school adminis­
trative procedure, and other important factors. Con­
sequently, under the facts and in the circumstances of 
this case, the order will be modified accordingly and 
the numerical ratios set forth in the district court’s 
order and decree will be eliminated. This modification 
does not affect the five-to-one interim ratio for the 
school year 1968-69 as hereinabove modified.

Nothing we say in this opinion shall be construed to 
mean that we authorize, permit, approve or condone 
the consideration of race or color as a factor in the 
'employment, assignment, reassignment, promotion, 
demotion or dismissal of full-time teachers, substitute 
teachers, student teachers or other professional staff 
m em bers except to the extent that the same may be 
taken into account for the purpose of counteracting or 
correcting the effects of racial segregation in any dual 
school system. Any conduct by any school board which 
is based on racial discrimination is unauthorized, dis­
approved and will not be tolerated. It is hoped and 
believed that experience will teach effective ways and 
means of achieving an ideal racial balance. School 
boards must not use excuses to delay the achievement 
of full faculty and staff desegregation. They have the 
responsibility and should exercise the ingenuity to 
achieve a proper racial balance. We have repeatedly 
asserted that school boards are better equipped to 
achieve these aims than are the courts; but, if they

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siderations. Numbers and percentages per se are not 
the ultimate answer but, up to a point, they touch 
upon realities. This, we think, is the significance of 
A lth eim er .



767

fail or refuse to act, they should now fully realize that 
the courts will require action.

I l l

J E F F E R S O N  D A V IS  H IG H  SCHOOL

F rom  the evidence presented the district court 
found that the newly constructed Jefferson D avis High  
School, scheduled to com m ence operations by the 1968 
school year, further perpetuated the dual school sys­
tem . M ore specifically, the court found that the loca­
tion of the school in a substantially all-white neighbor­
hood, the enrollm ent capacity of the school, the publici­
ty surrounding the recruitm ent of white personnel, and 
the scheduling of athletic events established the new  
high school, from  its very inception, as a “ white” 
school. Indeed, the court found that the conduct of the 
school board relating to the new high school was “m ost 
aggravating.”  In order to com bat the actions of school 
authorities and to eradicate the im pression that the 
new air-conditioned Jefferson D avis High School was 
to be an exclusively white school, the district court 
decreed that the school board will honor the choice of 
each N egro student who chooses to attend Jefferson  
High during the 1968-69 school year.

Appellants contend that requiring affirm ative racial 
preference to be given to Negro students for attend­
ance in the Jefferson D avis High School is unw ar­
ranted. They subm it that the school board did not plan 
the new  high school exclusively for white children. 
They state in their brief that the school board’s cur­
rent plans call for the em ploym ent of seven Negro

— 721-



768

teachers in the school. Further, they point to the fact 
that the school will open on a “ freedom  of choice” 
basis. To date 150 Negro students have chosen to attend 
the high school which has a capacity of 967 students. 
Appellants state to the court in their brief that these 
Negro choices will be honored in accordance with the 
provisions of the school board’s plan.

We have examined the record and conclude that the 
findings of the district court that various actions on 
the part of appellants created the impression that the 
Jefferson Davis High School was intended to serve a 
predominately white student body is supported by 
som e evidence. We conclude that the district court’s 
decree was designed to overcom e the impact of the 
school board’s discriminatory conduct as found to ex­
ist by the court. The decree requires the school board 
to honor the choice of each Negro student “ in the ab­
sence of compelling circum stances approved by the 
court on the School Board’s motion.”  We cannot be 
certain as to the court’s intended meaning of the term 
“ compelling circum stances.” We interpret the term 
to em brace those reasons which are inherent in and 
are supported by proper standards of sound school ad­
ministrative procedure, giving due consideration to all 
factors and circum stances which are proper to be 
considered in passing upon such choices.

IV

FACULTY RATIOS IN NEWLY CONSTRUCTED
SCHOOLS

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Appellees contend that the district court committed



769

error in not requiring im m ediate com pliance with the 
three-to-two ratio in schools which will com m ence op­
eration in 1968. They submit that there would be few er  
adm inistrative problem s if com plete faculty desegre­
gation were achieved at the inception of a new school. 
How ever, in the court’s order of M arch 2, 1968, it spoke 
approvingly of perm itting the school board to achieve  
the ultim ate objective of a com pletely desegregated  
school system  gradu ally. The court stated that grad­
ualism  had been found to work quite successfully in 
the past and that gradualism  was contem plated by the 
court in accom plishing the ultim ate objective. W e  
cannot say that the court’s decision to refrain from  re­
quiring full faculty integration in new  schools is erron­
eous.

The order of the district court is affirm ed as herein  
modified. The Clerk is directed to issue the m andate  
forthwith.

A F F IR M E D  A S  M O D IF IE D .

T H O R N B E R R Y , Circuit Judge, concurs except as to 
the m odifications of num erical ratios and reserves the 
right to dissent as to such m odifications at a later date.

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770

JUDGMENT

This cause came on to be heard on the transcript of the 
record from the United States District Court for the Mid­
dle District of Alabama, and was argued by counsel;

On Consideration W hereof, It is now here ordered and 
adjudged by this Court that the order of the District Court 
appealed from is modified, in accordance with the opinion 
of this Court, and as modified, said order be, and the same 
is hereby, affirmed. The Clerk is directed to issue the man­
date forthwith;

It is further ordered and adjudged that the appellants, 
Montgomery County Board of Education, and others, be 
condemned to pay two-thirds of the costs in this Court, 
and appellees, United States of America, and others, be 
condemned to pay one-third of said costs for all of which 
execution may be issued out of the said District Court.

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August 1,1968

T hornberry, Circuit Judge, concurs except as to the modi­
fications of numerical ratios and reserves the right to dis­
sent as to such modifications at a later date.

Issued as Mandate: Aug 11968

-725-792—
Petition’s for Rehearing En Banc (omitted in printing)



771
— 793—

Dissenting Opinion of Thornberry, C.J., 
Dated October 21 , 1968

IN THE

United States Court of Appeals
FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT

N o . 2 5 8 6 5

MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION,
ET AL,

Appellants,
versus

ARLAM CARR, JR., a minor, by ARLAM CARR, 
and JOHNNIE CARR, his parents and next friends,

ET AL,
Appellees.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Appellant,

versus

MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION,
ET AL,

Appellees.

Appeals from the United States District Court for the 
Middle District of Alabama

(October 21, 1968)



772

Before GEWIN and THORNBERRY, Circuit Judges, 
and ELLIOTT, District Judge.

THORNBERRY, Circuit Judge, dissenting:

The imposition of a specific ratio for each school as 
the ultimate objective of faculty integration is a new 
step for this Circuit, but it represents the considered 
judgment of a district judge who was familiar with 
the Montgomery schools, had heard testimony, and 
was making an honest effort to advance the conver­
sion to a unitary racially nondiscriminatory system 
as required by the Constitution. Having found the ob­
jections to this part of the decree rather unpersuasive,1 
I would affirm the district court. To the extent that 
the m ajority have entered modifications, I respect­
fully and in all deference dissent.

— 794—

'The school beard acknowledges that it must desegregate faculty so 
that no school is identifiable as being tailored for a heavy con­
centration of Negro or white students, but says that specific 
ratios are not required by the cases and would be achieved at 
the cost of quality education. Also, it is predicted that there 
will be a general exodus of teachers to other parts of the state. 
The latter point seems to assume that which is not the case, 
namely, that school boards in other parts Gf the state are not 
obligated to integrate the faculty of each school. As I try 
to show by this dissent, nothing in the cases precludes numeri­
cal ratios. Indeed, the cases require district courts to devise 
specific provisions to implement the general requirements of 
J efferson . The final argument that quality education w ill be 
sacrificed seems to be based more on speculation than evi­
dence. I would point out that the district court’s order requires 
by way of a final objective that the ratio of white to Negro 
teachers in each school be “ substantially the same as it is 
throughout the system.” Once the job  has been largely ac­
complished, i.e., once the three-to-two ratio has been ap­
proached in each school, I think the language of the decree 
leaves room for flexibility based on administrative necessity.



773

In Jefferson County, this Court stated the im por­
tance of faculty integration as forcefully as our lan­
guage permits:

Yet until school authorities recognize and car­
ry out their affirmative duty to integrate fa­
culties as well as facilities, there is not the 
slightes' possibility of their ever establishing 
an operative nondiscriminatory school system.

372 F.2d at 892. The general obligations of local boards 
were articulated, but the formulation of more specific 
provisions, i.e., provisions that would ultimately get 
the job done, was left to the boards and district courts:

It is essential that school officials (1) cease 
practicing racial discrimination in the hiring 
and assignment of new faculty m em bers and 
(2.) take affirmative programm atic steps to 
correct existing effects of past racial assign­
ment. If these two requirements are prescrib­
ed, the district court should be able to add 
specifics to m eet the particular situation the 
case presents. (Emphasis added)

372 F.2d at 893. In this case, the district judge saw in 
the record a lack of progress in the crucial area of 
faculty integration2 and a need for specific directions. 
His solution was to set a three-to-two ratio as the 
ultimate objective for each school, and I see no basis 
in the record or the cases for modifying his determina­
tion. To be sure, he was experimenting, but I believe

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zThe latest figures indicate that 39 of 1,365 teachers in the system 
are teaching in schools of the opposite race.



774

this to be experimentation within the spirit of J e ffe r ­

son  C ou n ty.

I do not regard U nited  S ta tes v . B oa rd  of E d u ca tion  
of B e s s e m e r  as good authority for eliminating the 
numerical ratios. While language in that opinion sug­
gests the Court was not disposed to deviate in either 
direction from  the J efferso n  decree, it must be rem em ­
bered that the district judge had not directed the 
board to go beyond the stage of allowing voluntary 
transfers of teachers willing to teach in schools of the 
opposite race. Being unfamiliar with the school sys­
tem and having before it a record over a year old, 
the appellate court could do no more than impose the 
J effe r so n  decree with emphasis on the point that the 
school board must reassign teachers if the desired re­
sults are not achieved through voluntary transfers. 
Unlike a district judge who has detailed first-hand 
knowledge of schools and school officials in his area, 
our Court simply is not equipped at this time to de­
termine specific objectives. Where a district Judge 
has formulated specific provisions on the basis of a 
record, it is contrary to our decisions to eliminate 
them in favor of m ore general provisions. As stated 
by this Court in a civil rights case of another kind, a 
district court “ has not m erely the power but the duty 
to render a decree which will so far as possible elimi­
nate the discriminatory effects of the past as well as 
bar like discrimination in the future.”  P u llu m  v.
G r e e n e , 5th Cir. 1968, ____  F.2d ____  [No. 25389, June
18, 1968], quoting from  L ou isia n a  v . U n ited  S ta tes , 380 
U.S. 145 at 154, 85 S.Ct. 817 at 822.

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775
- 7 9 7 -

Opinion on Petitions for Rehearing En Banc 
Dated November 1, 1968

IN THE

United States Court of Appeals
FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT

N o .  2.5 8 6 5

MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION,
ET AL,

versus
Appellants,

ARLAM CARR, JR., a minor, by ARLAM CARR, and 
JOHNNIE CARR, his parents and next friends, ET AL,

Appellees.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

versus
Appellant,

MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION,
ET AL,

Appellees.

Appeals from the United States District Court for the  
Middle District of Alabama.

ON PETITIONS FOR REHEARING EN BANC

(Novem ber 1, 1968)



776

Before GEWIN and THORNBERRY, Circuit Judges, 
and ELLIOTT, District Judge.

PE R  CURIAM: The Petitions for Rehearing are DE­
NIED and the Court having been polled at the re­
quest of one of the m embers of the Court and a m ajori­
ty of the Circuit Judges who are in regular active 
service not having voted in favor of it, (Rule 35 Fed­
eral Rules of Appellate Procedure; Local Fifth Circuit 
Rule 12) the Petitions for Rehearing En Banc are also 
DENIED.

Before BROWN, Chief Judge, WISDOM, GEWIN, 
BELLV THORNBERRY, COLEMAN/’ GOLDBERG, 
AINSWORTH, *GODBOLD,'> DYER, SIMPSON, CLAY­
TON* and MORGAN, Circuit Judges*

BROWN, Chief Judge, with whom WISDOM, THORN- 
BERRY, GOLDBERG, and SIMPSON, Circuit Judges 
join, dissenting:

I dissent from  the denial of the rehearing en banc.

In pursuing the ideal of Circuit-wide uniformity 
which is enhanced by tinkering as little as possible 
“ with the m odel decree” of Jefferson I and II' as was

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•Judge Clayton did not participate in the vote on rehearing en banc 
due to illness.

’ United States v. Jefferson County Board of Educ., 5 Cir., 1966, 
372 F.2d 836 (Jefferson I) a ff’d en  banc, 5 Cir., 1967, 380 F.2d 
385 (Jefferson II), cert, denied sub n om ., Caddo Parish School
Bd. v. United States, 1967, 389 U.S. 840, --------  S.Ct. -------- ,
-------- L .Ed.2d----------



777

so recently reiterated in Bessemer,z the panel decision 
mistakenly concludes that Bessemer holds that Jeffer­
son and the model decree forbid the District Judge
from  fixing numerical-percentage ratios of teacher

\

integration. The mistake is unfortunate because in the 
name of uniformity it begets disparity, not just Cir­
cuit-wide, but within the single state of Alabama.

Certainly Jefferson lays no such restraint on the 
District Judges who are on the firing line — just the 
opposite was declared. “ We anticipate that when dis­
trict courts and this Court have gained more experi­
ence with faculty integration, the Court will be able to 
set forth standards more specifically than they are set 
forth in the decrees in the instant cases. * * * [T]he 
district court should be able to add specifics to meet 
the particular situation the case presents.” Jefferson 
I, 372 F.2d at 893-94.

Any such prohibition would be out of character 
with the dominant theme so simply expressed and 
which has now both weathered the storm of certiorari 
and enjoys the judicial compliment of acceptance. 
For we there declared, “ The. only school desegregation 
plan that meets constitutional standards is one that 
works.”  Jefferson I, 372 F.2d at 847.* 3

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zUnited States v. Board of Educ. of Bessemer, 5 Cir., 1968, —
F .2d -------- , [No. 25809, June 3, 1968],

3Different only in phrasing was this statement:
“As the Constitution dictates, the proof of the pud­

ding is in the eating: the proof of a school board’s com­
pliance with constitutional standards is the result— the 
performance. Has the operation of the promised plan 
actually eliminated segregated and token-desegregated 
schools and achieved substantial integration?” 372 F.2d 
at 894.



778

And in May 1968 — two months before Carr — that 
is exactly what the Supreme Court said in Green:* 
“ The burden on a school board today is to com e for­
ward with a plan that promises realistically to work,
and promises realistically to work now.” ------- U.S. at

, 88 S.Ct. at , 20 L.Ed.2d at 724.

Unfortunately, if not tragically, the panel’s decision 
recognizes that the School Board’s indefinite plan will 
not work. “At the outset we note that the testimony of 
school officials indicates a need for specific directives 
in the instant case.” * 5 As corroboration of this candid 
confession the Court then footnotes (n. 5) extensive 
testimony of a responsible m em ber of the school board. 
Superintendent Garrett explicitly states that he does 
not even know what the objectives of the earlier Dis­
trict Court order are, when faculty desegregation will 
be complete, and that he and the Board have been un­
able to arrive at a workable definition of the model 
decree’s standard of a “ faculty not recognizable as 
being staffed for a particular race.”

Specifics are needed. Specifics are needed by the 
•school administrators. Specifics are needed by the 
Negroes who have waited these 14 years for “ a bona 
fide unitary system where schools are not white schools 
or Negro schools — just schools” 6 — and who must 
now wait for an undefined time for the tell-tale mark

— 800—

4Green v. County School Bd. of New Kent County, Va., May 27,
1968, __ -__ U.S. ______ , 88 S.Ct. 1689, 20 L.Ed 2d 727.

sMontgoirnery Bd. of Educ. v. Carr, 5 Cir., 1968, -------F.2d—  ,
_____  [No. 25865, August 1. 1968, slip opinion at 10-11],

6jefferson  I, supra, 372 F.2d at 890.



779

of segregated faculties to pass away. Specifics are 
needed by children, Negro and white alike, who are 
entitled to witness, feel, and participate in the con­
tinuing lesson of a constitutional order that is color 
free.

— 801—

Specifics — imperatively needed — are not forbidden 
by Bessemer.

The language the Court there used7 was geared very 
carefully to that case. The decree proposed by the 
Government had never been submitted to the District 
Judge. It was a decree for us as a Court of Appeals to 
enter as a binding mandate on the District Judge. 
Worse, it was a decree constructed on assumed racial 
statistics and ratios for application over a period of 
three years in no way covered or substantiated by a 
record which was then over a year old and stale, if not 
silent, on what had been happening.

But it is a mistake to think that this was an acquies­
cence in the Board’s suggestion that it all be left as it 
had been in the past — and now seems to be left for 
Montgomery — to the good faith efforts of the school 
board.

7“We are requested to do both too much and too little. The school 
boards * * * urge us, in effect, to do nothing specific either 
in terms o f target dates or racial percentage ratios, or both. 
The government, on the other hand, proposes that we direct 
the entry of a proposed sweeping, detailed decree which it 
frankly acknowledges, adds to and extends J efferson .”  Bes­
semer, supra , -------- F.2d at --------  [No. 25809, June 3, 1968, slip
opinion at 11],



780

But we did do four things. The first was to rule out 
the voluntary approach. The second was to fix an im ­
mediate target date, for the School Board to report 
specifically what it had done and would do for the 
school year 1968-69. The third was to fix the date — 
implicit in Jefferson — for full compliance, as the be­
ginning of the school year 1970-71. Fourth, we declared 
that since Negroes were not to be required to wait 
until “ C-day”  — 1970-71, to see the evidence of com ­
pliance, we sounded in the plainest of words that 
specifics were now the order of the day. Specifics in 
June-August for the school year 1968-69. More so, 
specifics for the succeeding year 1969-70, leading to the 
clim ax of September 1970.8

Loath as Judges are to articulate constitutional 
goals or actions in the oft-disparaged m echanical 
terms of arithmetic, this is an area where it is not the 
spirit, but the bodies which count. Any less inevitably 
leaves perform ance to good faith. Good faith is, of 
course, needed. But good faith is not, and cannot be, 
the standard. Now, and each term, each school year 
it com es down to figures. The result is in figures. If 
the result is satisfactory it is because of numbers, not

— 802—

s “This leaves the problem cf the ultimate ‘C Day.’ We think it en­
tirely consistent with J efferson  to say that full compliance 
should be reached by the opening of the school year 1970-71. 
But since that is just two school years away and neither the 
Court nor the Negro plaintiffs should have to run the risk of 
an announced failure on the eve of school opening in 1970-71 
it is perfectly evident that the District Judge in the forthcom­
ing June-August proceedings must exact or impose specific 
targets. That will be repeated, only more so, as time marches
on into 1969, then into 1969-1970.” Bessemer, supra, -------- F.2d
at --------  [No. 25809, June 3, 1968, slip opinion at 16].



781

the effort or subjective motivation. If the result is un­
satisfactory it is likewise because of numbers. The 
numbers — i.e. the numerical percentage ratios — 
need to be fixed. Once fixed, the Court can always de­
termine whether a good faith effort o f com pliance has 
been made. But good faith there is relevant to com ­
pliance, not as an element in fixing the standard.

The statistics in this record are abundant and 
graphic. Without passing judgment on motives or per­
form ance the figures of February 1968 either undis­
puted or found by the Court show that integration of 
the student body under the freedom  of choice plan has 
been slight.9 Faculty integration reveals a similar lack 
of numerical progress much of which, the District 
Judge expressly finds, is a result for which the Board 
must bear the full responsibility.10

— 803—

®The District Court found that of 25,000 white children and 15,000 
Negro children, there were approximately 550 Negro children 
attending traditionally white schools. No white children were 
attending traditionally Negro schools. These facts, as to which 
there is no substantial contradiction, as well as the facts and 
quotations in n.10 are from the Memorandum Opinion of the 
United States District Court for the Middle District of Ala­
bama, filed February 24, 1968.

'°The teacher force comprised approximately 550 Negro teachers 
and 815 white teachers. Only 32 classroom teachers in the sys­
tem were teaching pupils in schools that were predominantly 
o f the opposite race. “ Practically all the faculty desegregation 
in the system has occurred in the high schools. While there 
is some faculty desegregation in the elementary schools in the 
system, it is extremely small. There has been very little, if any, 
faculty desegregation in the schools located outside the City 
on Montgomery.”  Of the 26 white teachers hired since Septem­
ber 1967, only 6 or 7 have been placed in predominantly Negro 
schools. A ll six Negro teachers hired since that date were as­
signed to predominantly Negro schools. “ The evidence further 
reflects that the defendants have failed to take any appropriate



782

After extensive hearings, the District Court, dis­
satisfied with this lack of demonstrable accom plish­
ment, imposed specific targets for the school year 
1968-69 and m ore specifically, delineated what would 
be required for satisfactory com pliance in order to 
achieve full faculty integration. The system-wide ratio 
of white to Negro faculty m em bers is approximately 
3 to 2. To attain schools unidentifiable as to race the 
Judge laid down the standard of a system-wide facul­
ty ratio of 3 to 2. For the school year 1968-69 the Court 
set an interim com pliance ratio of 5 to 1. In addition, 
the District Court imposed for the 1968-69 school year, 
the system-wide 3 to 2 faculty ratio for use in assign­
ing substitute teachers, student teachers, and night 
school faculty m em bers (using the night school facul­
ty ratio).

— 804—

steps to insure that substitute teachers are placed on a non- 
racial basis. No Negro has yet been a substitute teacher in a 
traditionally white school in Montgomery County.”  During the 
1967-68 school year, white substitute teachers were employed 
over 2,000 times— only 33 o f them in traditionally Negro 
schools. “Defendants have adopted no adequate program for 
the assignment of student teachers on a desegregated basis. 
None of the approximately 150 students teachers used in the 
Montgomery County School System in the fall of 1967 were 
assigned to schools predominantly of the opposite race. Four 
Negro student teachers have very recently been assigned to 
predominantly white schools. There has been no faculty de­
segregation in the night schools, operated by the Montgomery 
County School System.”  Moreover, on findings, not here chal­
lenged, the record failed to show any excuse for this lack of 
tangible accomplishment. “The evidence does not reflect any 
real administrative problems involved in immediately desegre­
gating the substitute teachers, the student teachers, the night 
school faculties, and in the evolvement of a really legally ade­
quate program for the substantial desegregation of the facul­
ties of all schools in the system commencing with the school 
year of 1968-69.” See n. 9 supra.



783

But much of this was, I fear, undone by the panel. 
Recognizing in so many words the necessity for “ spec­
ific directives in the instant case” the Court’s opinion 
does not afford that guidance and, worse, makes dras­
tic alterations in the Trial Judge’s record-based, care­
fully constructed program. Although the change in 
the formulation of the 1968-69 ratio of 5 to 1" m ay be 
slight in operative effect it does not stand alone. Com­
pletely eliminated is the 1968-69 ratio of 3 to 2 for sub­
stitute, student, and night school teachers. More signi­
ficant is the complete elimination of the 3 to 2 ratio as 
the Jefferson goal of a school “ unidentifiable as to 
race.”  Indeed, it is rejected for all time under the 
vague notions12 which permit subjective discrimina­
tion of the kind so characteristic of the regional glacial 
m ovement toward integration. Right along with this 
is the failure, either on original disposition or now in 
response to an express request n the motion for re­
hearing, that full compliance be required by the open­
ing of the school year 1970-71 as fixed by “ C day” in 
Bessemer.

— 805—

>>“Because of the difficulties inherent in achieving a precise five- 
to-one ratio, this part of the district court’s order should be in­
terpreted to mean substantially or approxim ately  five to one. 
The decree is modified to this extent in order to allow a degree 
of flexibility in the application of the 1968-69 interim require­
ments.”  Carr, supra, -------- F.2d at --------  [No. 25865, August 1,
1968, slip opinion at 15).

'2 “Although a ratio of substantially or approximately five to one 
is a good beginning, we cannot say that a ratio of substantially 
three to two, simply because it mirrors the racial balance of 
the entire faculty, must be achieved as a final objective. Con­
sideration must be given to the availability of teaching per­
sonnel, sound school administrative procedure, and other im­
portant factors.”  Carr, supra, -------- F.2d at _____  [No. 25865,
August 8, 1968, slip opinion at 16-17],



784

Within scarcely 90 miles that separates the Birming­
ham area from  Montgomery there are two separate 
standards and, perhaps, two separate hopes.

We owe both to those to be com m anded by, and those 
who enjoy the benefit of, court direction, an obligation 
to speak with a single voice. Whatever might be the 
ultimate views on the merits, law and all suffer when 
the Court, from  “ an inability to muster a m ajority,’ ” 3 
cannot make up its institutional mind.

DYER, Circuit Judge:

I join in dissenting to the denial of a rehearing en 
banc.

— 806—

isCarter v. United States, 5 Cir., 1963, 325 F.2d 697, 707 (en banc)
(dissenting opinion), cert, denied, 1964, 377 U.S. 9 4 6 ,-------- S.Ct.
_____ , 12 L.Ed. 2d 308.



785

- 8 0 7 -
Clerk’s Certification as to Record, Dated November 25, 

1968 (omitted in printing)

-8 0 8 -
Order Granting Certiorari

I n the

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES 

October Term, 1968

U nited States of A merica,
Petitioner,

Montgomery County Board of Education, et al.

and

A rlam Carr, Jr., et al.,
Petitioners,

v.

Montgomery County Board of E ducation, et al.

The petitions for writs of certiorari are granted. The 
cases are consolidated and a total of two hours is allotted 
for oral argument.

March 3, 1969



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