State v. Edwards Jr. Transcript of Record
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The State of South Carolina
IN THE SUPREME COURT
A PPEA L FROM RICHLAND COUNTY
H onorable L egare Bates, Judge
THE STATE, Respondent,
against
JAMES EDWARDS, JR., ALVESTER PATE, JR., PINCKNEY MOSLEY, MEL
VIN BROWN, JR., HAROLD EUGENE NIMMONS, W ILLIE BOYKIN
JONES, W IL L IAM PERKINS and BILL A L V IN SULLIVAN, Appellants.
THE STATE, Respondent,
against
GEORGE C. FOSTER, JAMES JEROME KIRTON, ISAAC J. CAMPBELL, ISAAC
WASHINGTON, RONALD J. RHAMES, JOSEPH B. B AILEY, DA VIE
GREEN and CHARLES F. BARR, Appellants.
THE STATE, Respondent,
against
JAMES C. WEST, SINCLAIR SALTERS, H EZIKAH JOHNSON, JAMES CLY-
BURN, W IL L IA M E. MOULTRIE, D AVID CARTER, BENJAMIN J.
GLOVER, SAMUEL S. WILLIAMS, ARTHUR W. STANLEY, JR., W EN
DELL DAILEY, LENNIE W . GLOVER, D AVID L. PERRETT, JAMES A.
CARTER, CLIFFORD J. RICE, DELBERT L. WOODS, ALFRED 0. LEMON,
WILBUR H. W ALK ER , SAMUEL EDWARDS, JAMES W. CANTY, ISAAC
W. WILLIAMS, CLIFFORD B. BELL. W IL L IA M H. COOLEY, ROBERT H.
LaPRINCE, FR AN K E. GORE, E AR L PETERS, JR., H ENRY H. HARRIS,
CHARLES R. MILLER, CHARLES McDEW. M AXINE EPPS, H ENRY
WILLIAMS, LEROY HOGANS, JIMMIE L. SMITH, JAMES REEDER, JR.,
GEORGE A. ANDERSON, and ANTHONY McFADDEN, Appellants.
THE STATE, Respondent,
against
CARRIE MAE K E LLY, QUEEN E. RUSH, HAZEL Y. N EW BERRY, BETTY J.
LINDSEY, SARAH E. McKENZIE, MATTIE THOMAS, BETTY J. CAPERS,
MINNIE DeWITT, FLOYD A L V IN GILMORE, MacARTHUR J. BISHOP,
CHARLES FLEMMING, JOE LEWIS ROBINSON, JOHN J. CAMPBELL, I.
D. NEWMAN, HAROLD FOSTER, JIMMIE NORSE MOORE, HORACE
NASH, JOHN W ESLEY MILLER, MARK A. WILLIAMS, CLARENCE MIS
SOURI, CARL EDW ARD BOOK, CLASSIE R. W ALK ER , BOBBIE JEAN
YOUNG, W ILLIE P AUL WORTHY, ROBERT FERGUSON, ALBERT
ORAGE, JOHN SAW YER, GLENN MANNING, KENNEDY CLAFFL1N,
JOHN FEDERICK, BOBBY DOCTOR, ALBERTINE M. CONEY, YVONNE
J. CODLOE, BRENDA J. BURTON, BARBARA ANN MACK. JUDITH D.
SMITH, EMMA J. JONES, EVE LY N L. ROBINSON, W IL L IAM THEODORE
BOGGS, HENRY EARL THOMAS, JAMES EDW ARD COLEMAN, BER
NARD NATHANIEL RIGGINS, JESSIE ALFREDIA LOCKHART, BAR-
/; _ , -I .Y.Y CURRINGTON, SARAH ANN WHARTON, DIANE GWENDO-
HYNrBLASSINGAME, SOPHIA PEARL LESTER, BETTY JEAN WIDER-
MAN, W ILLIAM T. ROBINSON, ROBERT HICKMAN, HERBERT L A W
RENCE WILSON, BERNARD HAIRE, LEONARD BRANT, DONALD JE
ROME SAtLTERS, FREDERICK P. PAGET, ROBERT LEE McBETH, LEW IE
EIGHTY, BOOKER T. McLEOD, CLAUDE E. MOORE, JOHN I. W ITHER
SPOON, M ATTH EW WILLIAMS, HAROLD BARDONVILLE, TRAVIS SIM
MONS, SHIRLEY STROMON, FLORENCE SMALLS, RAN L. JONES, JEAN-
NIE LUE DAVIS, MYRTLE L. W ALK ER , JULIUS B. MOSES, BETTY JEAN
WILSON, LENNARD L. McCANTS, MARIO DAVIS, SAMMIE PRINGLE,
CLINTON W. HAZZARD, ROBERT McTEER, JAMES A. ALFORD, GWEN
DOLYN WATSON. FRANCIS MCDANIELS, JOHN LAND, YVONNE REDD,
DORIS T). WRIGHT, DEE ANN ANDERSON, M A R Y NORRIS, RHUNETT
LINDSEY. JUANITA HALL. GERTRUDE EVANS, SHIRLEY A. GREEN,
ANNIE MAE RAY , LEOLA CLEMENTS, GERTRUDE SMITH, CATHE
RINE DUNCAN, JUNIUS L. REED. JAMES K. DAVIS, AL ETHIA BROWN,
REBECCA WILLIAMS, DOROTHY H. ROBINSON, M A R Y L. ENGLISH,
W IL L IE 0. JAMISON, JUSTINE SIMONS, LOVENIE GRIGGS, JEANNETTE
BLACK, JUANITA WADDELL, LUCY SULLIVAN. PATRICIA GREEN,
AMANDA TOWNSEND, MARGARET McCRAY, BJETTYE MARSHALL, AN
NETTE EDWARDS, MATTIE GILES, NOVEL NOWLIN, BARBARA EAR-
LEY, LUCY DAVIS, EDITH JENKINS, BETTYE .7. KING, BINZER INABI-
NET, KAT IE DONALDSON, MARION J. JOHNSON, JEANETTE L. H ART
W E L L , M A R Y E. ELLISON, REGINA S. A. CALDWELL. LaVERNE DU
RANT. CHANGIE M. DRAYTON, 0TT1E R. JARRATT, BOBBIE J. GILES,
IRENE O’N. GILES, FELICIA Y. YOUNG, FORTIA H. SIZER. KATE
LEWIS. W ILLIE E. GRANT. FRANCES E. JOHNSON, EVELYN BING,
SHIRT,EY A. KING, LORETTA G. BUSH, BETTIE J. BROWN, GLORIA
■T. JEFFERSON, and ROSALIE HINES, Appellants.
TRANSCRIPT OF RECORD
Jenkins & P erry.
Columbia, S. C.,
Attorneys for Appellants.
D aniel R. McL eod,
Attorney General,
J. C. Coleman. J r.,
Assistant Attorney General,
Everett N. Brandon,
Assistant Attorney General.
Columbia. S. C..
Attorneys fo r Respondent.
INDEX
Page
Statement................................................................... 1
Transcript of Trial Proceedings, March 7, 1961 .. 2
Witnesses for The State:
Irving G. McNayr
Direct Examination.................................. 4
Cross Examination .................................. 19
Re-direct Examination ............................. 37
Re-cross Examination............................... 39
L. J. Campbell
Direct Examination.................................. 42
Cross Examination .................................. 47
Re-direct Examination ............................. 55
Dan F. Beckman
Direct Examination.................................. 57
Cross Examination .................................. 61
A. C. Shorter, Jr.
Direct Examination.................................. 66
Cross Examination .................................. 70
Transcript of Trial Proceedings, March 13,1961 .. 18
Witnesses for The State:
Irving G. McNayr
Direct Examination.................................. 82
Cross Examination .................................. 95
L. J. Campbell
Direct Examination.................................. 102
Cross Examination.................................... 106
Re-direct Examination ............................. 115
Re-cross Examination .............................. 116
Dan F. Beckman
Direct Examination.................................. 117
Cross Examination .................................. 119
Re-direct Examination ............................. 123
Re-cross Examination............................... 123
INDEX— Continued
Page
A. C. Shorter, Jr.
Direct Examination.................................. 124
Cross Examination.................................... 127
Witnesses lor Defendants:
James Jerome Kirton
Direct Examination.................................. 135
Cross Examination .................................. 145
Transcript of Trial Proceedings, March 16, 1961 . 156
Witnesses for The State:
Irving G. McNayr
Direct Examination.................................. 158
Cross Examination.................................... 166
Re-direct Examination ........... 185
Joseph P. Barnett
Direct Examination.................................. 186
Cross Examination.................................... 189
L. J. Campbell
Cross Examination.................................... 196
A. C. Shorter, Jr.
Cross Examination .................................. 197
Dan F. Beckman
Cross Examination.................... 198
Witnesses for Defendants:
B. J. Glover
Direct Examination .................................. 202
Cross Examination .................................. 206
Re-direct Examination ............................ 213
Re-cross Examination.............................. 213
'Transcript of Trial Proceedings, March 27, 1961 . 219
Order of Judge B ates............................................. 232
Exceptions ................................................................ 240
Stipulation ...................... 241
STATEMENT
This is an appeal from an Order of Honorable Le-
gare Bates, dated July 10, 1961, affirming convictions 1
of the Appellants in Magistrate’s Court.
The Appellants, numbering one hundred eighty-
seven persons, were charged with the crime of breach
of the peace. The charges arose out of certain activities
in which the Appellants were engaged in and about
the State House Grounds in the City of Columbia on
March 3, 1961.
The right to trial by jury was waived, and the Ap
pellants were tried by the Columbia City Magistrate
of Richland County in four separate trials on the 7th, 2
13th, 16th and 27th days of March, 1961. It was stip
ulated that all testimony presented in the first two
trials would be substantially the same in subsequent
trials, and such testimony was ordered incorporated in
the records of the subsequent trials as if repeated
therein. The same stipulation and order were made as
to testimony presented in the third trial.
All Appellants were found guilty, and sentences
ranging from fines of Ten ($10.00) Dollars or service
of five (5) days to One Hundred ($100.00) Dollars or »
thirty (30) days were imposed. Thereafter, by stip
ulation, the appeals from the four trials were consoli
dated and argued as one case before the Richland
County Court. In the Order from which appeal is taken,
the judgment of the Magistrate’s Court was affirmed.
Due and timely notice of appeal from this Order was
given.
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The State v. James Edwards, Jr. et al.
SUPREME COURT________
TRANSCRIPT OF TESTIMONY
Before Honorable Frank Powell, Magistrate, on
Tuesday, March 7,1961, Richland County Court House,
Columbia, South Carolina.
Appearances:
For the State: J. C. Coleman, Esq., E. N. Brandon,
Esq.
For the Defendants: Matthew J. Perry, Esq., Lin
coln C. Jenkins, Jr., Esq., Donald James Sampson,
Esq.
E leanor S. Mackey,
Reporter.
(Court convened at 10:00 o’clock, a. m. in Circuit
Court Room, Richland County Court House.)
Judge Powell: I would like to announce the rules
for this hearing. No. 1, no photographs will be taken
in the court room. No. 2, as many people who like may
come here as long as they have a seat. There will be
no standing up around the walls. There will he no out
bursts in any fashion; if there is any, you will be cited
for contempt of court.
The Court has before it a warrant charging the fol
lowing person for breach of peace here in Richland
County. A complaint, under oath, has been made by
L. J. Campbell that at Columbia, in Richland County,
South Carolina, on March the 2nd, 1961, James Ed
wards, Jr., Alvester Pate, Jr., Pinckney Moseley, Mel
vin Brown, Jr., Harold Eugene Nimmons, Willie Boy
kin Jones, William Perkins and Bill Alvin Sullivan
did commit a breach of the peace and that the said
persons, together with others, did assemble to impede
normal traffic and they failed to disperse upon orders
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of the police officers. Whereas, the aforementioned in
dividuals' bn March 2nd, 1961, on the State Capitol
grounds, on adjacent sidewalks and streets,'^did com
mit a breach of the peace in that they, together with a
large group of people, did assemble and impede the
normal traffic, singing and parading with placards,
failed to disperse upon lawful orders of police officers,
all of which tended directly to immediate violence and
breach of the peace in view of existing conditions.
Signed: L. J. Campbell. Sworn to before me on the
2nd day March, 1961. Frank Powell, Columbia Magis
trate. Are all of the persons named present?
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, they are present.
The Court: Are these persons represented by an at
torney?
Mr. Perry: Yes, sir. They are represented by three
attorneys: Mr. Lincoln C. Jenkins, Jr., Mr. Donald
James Sampson and myself, Matthew J. Perry. May
it please the Court, if I may interrupt Your Honor’s
proceedings momentarily, the defendants have not been
given copies of the warrant and I wonder if it is pos
sible, at this time that they might be given copies of
the warrant?
The Court: Not at this time. The warrant has been
read individually to them when they were charged. Will
the defendants please stand and approach the front
of the court room as I call their names?
Mr. Perry: Just one moment, please. I don’t want to
be put in the position of interrupting the procedure.
May we approach the Bench with members of counsel
for the State?
The Court: Yes.
(Whereupon, Mr. Coleman, Mr. Brandon, Mr. Perry,
Mr. Jenkins and Mr. Sampson approached the Bench.
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Mr. Perry requested warrant to examine it before de
fendants were arraigned.
(Defendants arraigned before the Court.)
The Court: Are these the ones named in the warrant
charged with breach of the peace, Columbia, South
Carolina, on March 2nd, 1961?
Defendants: (In unison) Yes, sir.
The Court: Were you released on bonds for appear
ance in this court?
Defendants: (In unison) Yes.
The Court: How do you plead to the charge, guilty
or not guilty?
Mr. Jenkins: As counsel for the defendants, may I
speak? At this time, Your Honor, the defendants each
enter a plea of not guilty.
The Court: You will all take seats, please. Are the
defendants ready for trial?
Mr. Perry: The defendants are ready.
The Court: Is the State ready?
Mr. Coleman: The State is ready.
Whereupon, Mr. Coleman called Irving G. M cNayr
who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:
Direct Examination
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Mr. McNayr, I believe you are the City Manager
of the City of Columbia?
A. I am, sir.
Q. As such, do your duties require you to supervise
the activities of the Columbia City Police Department?
A. Yes, sir. I have direct supervision of the City
Police Department.
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Q. Do you have anjr personal knowledge of the inci-
dent alleged in the warrant just read by the Judge,
which allegedly occurred in the City of Columbia, in
and around the State House grounds, on March the
2nd last involving the defendants on trial here today?
A. Yes, sir. I was present all during the proceedings.
Q. Would you please relate to the Court in your own
words exactly what occurred with regard to any matter
about which you have personal knowledge, so far as
this charge is concerned?
A. Yes. At approximately 10:30 on the morning of
March the 2nd I was called by Chief of Police Campbell 18
and informed that he had word that a meeting was to
be held at at the Zion Baptist Church on lower Wash
ington Street, and that it was understood that students
attending that meeting would then proceed to the State
House grounds to demonstrate.
Mr. Perry: We object to that testimony and moved
that it be stricken on the grounds of hearsay, under the
rule of hearsay.
Mr. Coleman: The City Manager has not testified
to the facts; he is merely relating the official informa- is
tion received from his Chief of Police, which motivated
his appearance. He has not said that the march had ac-
tuallv started or there would actually be one. He mere-
]v stated that it was his information from his Chief
of Police that there might possibly be a march, merely
setting out his motivation for his actions.
The Court: We will sustain the objection. In my
opinion, it would be hearsay which Chief Campbell
said to Mr. McNayr.
Q. Mr. McNayr, what did you actually do, without
relating what Chief Campbell or any one might have
told you?
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A. I asked Chief Campbell to pick me ap in the im
mediate future in his car and drive me to the Zion
Baptist Church. He did that and we arrived at the
church at approximately a quarter of eleven. Numer
ous youths were entering the basement area of the
church at the time. On the outside was David Carter,
whom I had known in the street demonstrations here
over the past months and the past year. I talked with
David Carter and asked for information as to what
was going on. I received a completely evasive answer.
He informed me that they were simply holding a meet
ing. I asked him—
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, I object to this
line of testimony on the grounds that David Carter
is not among the defendants who are on trial here this
morning. The conversation with a person not on trial
at this proceeding is likewise violation of the rule
against hearsay. If the conversation had been with
one of these defendants, I think perhaps it would be
an exception to the hearsay rule, but we respectfully
urge that this particular testimony is in violation of
the hearsay rule. We also move that the testimony re
lating to the full conversation with David Carter be
stricken.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, there has been
no testimony as to what David Carter said. He is
merely relating his activities on that day, which had
generally to do with the demonstration which later
occurred on the State House Grounds, out of which a
charge against the defendants arose. We have no de
sire for him to relate his conversation with David
Carter.
Mr. Perry: In reply, may I say, Sir, that David Car
ter, not being on trial, I believe Mr. McNayr has stated
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Irving G. M cNayk
that Carter was evasive and Carter, not being on trial,
is not in position of defending himself against this
statement.
Mr. Coleman: We will agree to strike the reference
to David Carter and the answer being in the evidence.
The Court: Objection sustained on the ground that
defense has brought out, David Carter is not on trial
here today. Objection is sustained. Strike that.
A. Mr. Coleman, I ’m going to find it extremely dif
ficult to give you the chain of events if I ’m not allowed
to state the actual chain of events.
Q. Mr. McNayr, where did you go after you left
Zion Baptist Church'?
A. When the group of students, apparent students,
came out of the church, Chief Campbell drove me to
the entrance of the State House Grounds. By that time,
the students had started marching in groups of any
where from fifteen to twenty-five, just prior to our
leaving the church area. We, then, stayed on the State
House grounds and conferred with Mr. Harry Walker
of the Governor’s Office, awaiting the students and
they soon appeared walking up Gervais Street. When
they appeared at the grounds, still coming in groups,
they were instructed to remain in those groups as they
stayed on the sidewalk, and Mr. Walker then talked
with each group and the apparent leader of each group
and instructed them, in my hearing. He first questioned
them as to what—
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, again we object
to conversation with Mr. Harry Walker with the de
fendants on the ground that it violates the hearsay
rule. Mr. Walker may perhaps testify in this proceed
ing himself. I respectfully submit anything Mr. Mc
Nayr might have said himself to these persons, by way
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of giving an official demand, he can say but, very re
spectfully, any other order that was conveyed to the
defendants by any other officer or any other person in
authority would be violation of the hearsay rule.
The Court: Objection sustained. Strike it from the
record. Go ahead.
Q. Mr. McNaj^r, did you, yourself, have any conver
sation with these marchers, these defendants, at the
time?
A. Not when they first appeared, no, sir.
Q. What was the general situation when you first
got there, so far as the crowd around the State House?
Mr. Perry: Objection to the use of the word “ crowd”.
Q. Was there a crowd around the State House?
A. There was not what I would call a crowd when
we first arrived at the scene.
Q. Who was there ?
A. Primarily, officers of the South Carolina Law
Enforcement Division, a few State Highway Patrol
officers, a number of policemen, Mr. Walker, whom I
mentioned briefly just now.
Q, Did anything thereafter occur which made it in
cumbent upon you, in your opinion, in your official
capaeitv, to take any action?
Mr. Perry: I didn’t hear the question.
Q. Did anything occur thereafter, after your arrival
at the State House grounds, at the horseshoe?
A. Yes.
Q. Anything occur thereafter which made it incum
bent upon you, in your opinion, in your official capacity
as City Manager, to take any official action?
A. Yes, it did.
Q. What was it that occurred?
A. The groups were allowed to go in small groups—
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Irving Gf. M cNayr
Q. What groups'?
A. The groups of young Negro students, within
groups to travel through the State House grounds. I
did not grant them authority to do that. This will prob
ably be objected to but Mr. Harry Walker granted that
authority.
Mr. Perry: We do so object.
Q. What was the approximate size of the crowd of
young Negro students?
A. I estimated it, at the time, at around 200.
Q. At what time, Mr. McNayr, was it that these stu
dents first made their appearance in and about the
State House grounds?
A. They first made their appearance somewhere be
tween a quarter of twelve and twelve o’clock.
Q. Did you have any conversation with them at that
time or any one who made himself known to you as
their leader?
A. Yes, I did, on various occasions during the period
they were there.
Q. Did you give any official instructions to these
young Negro students at this time?
A. Yes, I did. I asked them to remain in small groups.
I asked them not to block the sidewalk or walkways
or street in any way. I told them they must remain in
such groups.
Q. What time was this approximately? Do you re
member?
A. This was approximately between the period of
their arrival and right around 12:00 o’clock, within
the first fifteen minutes of their arrival.
Q. Did I understand you to say that they were not
interefered with at that time?
A. They were not interfered with.
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Q. Did they proceed to walk, march, move about in
any way in and around the State House grounds ?
A. Yes, they did. They proceeded to walk around the
State House grounds still in the groups.
Q. How long did this procedure continue?
A. This procedure continued for between a half and
three-quarters of an hour.
Q. Did anything thereafter occur which caused you
to take further official action?
A. Yes. Following their proceeding through the
State House grounds, they then started to gather on
38 the sidewalk.
Q, “ They”—who are you referring to?
A. I ’m referring to approximately 200 students with
the stated intention of again going through the grounds
and demonstrating. They gathered on the sidewalks
and also began to accumulate in front of the drive, the
horseshoe as you have described it.
Q. That’s where the monument stands right directly
in front of the State House steps ?
A. Yes. By this time, a large group of bystanders
39 had gathered, not only on the State House side or in
the horseshoe side but on the opposite side of Oervais
Street, blocking the walkways where Main enters Ger-
vais on both sides of Main. It was also a tendency to
block the walkways leading from the Capitol going
towards Main Street.
Q. Did you have occasion to observe these onlook
ers? From where were they coming? Did you see that?
A. They were coming, as nearly as I could deter
mine, they were coming down Main and collecting on
̂ the other side, near the Wade Hampton Hotel, on my
left facing Main, also down Main, I can’t remember
the name of the building. In addition to that, many
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State employees—this was just approximately the
lunch hour, I assume, for State employees—were com
ing from the State Capitol building and from the var
ious office buildings back of the Capitol, moving
through the horseshoe area on to Main Street.
Q. Did it appear to you that the crowd was being
attracted by the students?
Mr. Perry: I object to that, Your Honor. I object to
the question on the grounds that it calls for a conclu
sion on the part of this witness.
The Court: I didn’t understand the question.
Mr. Coleman: I asked did it appear to Mr. McNayr
that the activity of the students was attracting by
standers, the onlookers.
The Court: Objection overruled.
A. There is no question about the fact that they were
attracting bystanders. Many, I ’m sure, were on their
way to lunch and I ’m sure the activities taking place
caused them to stop and watch what was going on.
Q. Mr. McNayr, with reference to this horseshoe or
place right in front of the State House, are there side
walks on both sides leading up to the State House and
State House grounds and is there also a roadway for
vehicular traffic?
A. There is. There is a roadway used primarily for
the parking of State Capitol workers and officials.
0. Now, at the time when you first noticed a crowd
of people—
Mr. Perry: Again we object to the use of the word
“ crowd” . I move that it be stricken. May I state to the
Court at this time, the use of the word “ crowd” seems
to imply certain unlawfulness to the manner of the
assembly and, therefore, since Your Honor is going to
be called upon to determine the lawfulness or unlawful-
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ness of the various assemblages which occurred on this
date, the use of the word “ crowd” in counsel promul
gating the questions tends to set the stage for the par
ticular flavor, I think, upon which the State is relying
upon. Now, I request that the Court require counsel
and the witness to simply say what they saw. They saw
a group of people standing, they can say that without
the use of the word “ crowd”. That, at this particular
time, carries with it an unpleasant connotation, which
we are attempting to get around.
Mr. Coleman: If Tour Honor please, “ crowd” is a
perfectly good English word, to my knowledge, and in
the definition of it, I cannot see any connotation of un
lawfulness whatsoever. I ’ll admit my intonation may
be susceptible to some interpretation but not with re
gard to that word. I do not mind substituting another;
I think their objection is entirely unbased.
The Court: Objection overruled.
Q. Can you estimate the number of the persons who
did gather in and around this horseshoe by the time
that it became apparent to you that some further of
ficial action on your part would be necessary?
A. I would estimate the number of persons, in addi
tion to the student groups, to be in the neighborhood
of 250 to 300 people.
Q. Now, with relation, Mr. McNayr, to the sidewalks
around the horseshoe and the lane for vehicular traffic,
how was the crowd distributed, with regard to those
sidewalks and roadways!
A. Well, the conditions varied from time to time,
but at numerous times they were blocked almost com
pletely with probably as many as thirty or forty per
sons, both on the sidewalks and in the street area.
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Q. Would you say or state whether or not, in your 49
opinion, this crowd did impede both vehicular and pe
destrian traffic along the horseshoe?
A. To the best of my knowledge, I can’t recall a
vehicle trying to get in or out of the horseshoe. If
one had attempted to, it would have impeded the en
trance and exit to the horseshoe.
Q. Did you observe the pedestrian traffic on the
walkway ?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. What was the condition there?
A. The condition there was that it was extremely 50
difficult for a pedestrian wanting to get through, to get
through. Many of them took to the street area, even
to get through the street area or the sidewalk.
Q. Mr. McNayr, from the time that you first ap
peared on the scene at the horseshoe at the State House
and observed the young students and their activities,
from this time up until the time that you took further
official action, can you give us approximately the length
of time involved?
A. It was approximately three-quarters of an hour. 51
Q. In other words, they were permitted to march in
and around and about the State House grounds for
approximately three-quarters of an hour without in
terference?
A. That’s correct.
Q. All right. After this three-quarters of an hour,
did you take further official action in regard to the
young students or the crowd or anything else?
A. Yes, I did. As I saw the crowds gathering, the
sidewalks being blocked and recognizing that the lunch 62
hour was just starting, I was also aware of the ad-
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possibility of larger groups of students coming forth
from there and the accumulation of the student groups
along the sidewalk area, I called for Dave Carter and
told him that I felt the situation was becoming dan
gerous and told him that the group would have to be
dispersed, that they should be dispersed and sent away
in small groups, as they had arrived, and told him—
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, we now object
to this line of testimony on the ground that the same
is purely conjectural and speculative. Mr. McNayr has
stated that he realized the possibility of students from
the University of South Carolina coming and he
thought of other possibilities and he thought of this
and that and, therefore, after sifting these various pos
sibilities through his mind, he decided to take a course
of action. I respectfully submit that this testimony is
purely speculative. There is no evidence that any stu
dent from the University of South Carolina came out
and attempted to involve themselves with the Negro
students. There is no evidence, as I understand Mr.
McNayr’s testimony, of anybody else attempting to do
them violence and so Mr. McNayr testifies about the
various possibilities in a purely conjectural manner
and we are not able actually to pin down the various
possibilities which he testifies about. I respectfully urge
that this testimony is objectionable and I submit that
the Court should strike it from the record.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, Mr. McNayr
was present on the scene as an official of the City of
Columbia. In his official capacity, he supervises and
has charge of the City Police Department. Incidents
occurred in this horseshoe which made it his duty to
take some action and I ’m merely asking him to relate
and he had so far related what official action he had
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taken and why he took it, why he took that action.
I see nothing speculative and I see no conjecture what
soever in it.
Mr. Perry: I think, Your Honor, there’s no question
about Mr. McNayr testifying as to what he did but
when he says the reason he did it was the possibility
that someone else was going to come from somewhere
else and so forth, he enters the realm of conjecture and
we respectfully submit that that is objectionable.
Q. Mr. McNayr, what action did you take?
A. I instructed Dave Carter to tell each of these
groups, to call them up and tell each of the groups and
the group leaders that they must disperse, they must
disperse in the manner which I have already described,
that I would give them fifteen minutes from the time
of my conversation with him to have them dispersed
and, if they were not dispersed, I would direct my
Chief of Police to place them under arrest.
Q. What then occurred?
A. Following my instructions, Dave Carter did call
up each group.
Q. This was within your hearing?
A. This was within my hearing. I was standing ad
jacent to him and did follow him from place to place as
he moved about. Rather than give instructions in the
calm way in which I had given them to him, he har
angued each group with a religious, chanting type of
voice—
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, we object to anything on
behalf of David Carter. David Carter is not a defend
ant in this case. We respectfully submit that testimony
with reference to any conversation of David Carter
violates the hearsay rule.
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The Court: Objection sustained.
Q. Did you give any instructions to the students who
were participating in this activity as to dispersal of
the marching groups'?
A. None other than to their recognized leader, David
Carter.
Q. With regard to the student groups, which as you
have testified had marched in and attempted some dem
onstration on the State House grounds, did you hear
any unusual noise or anything which made it appear
to you that further official action should be taken?
A. Yes. We had this chanting, religious type ap
proach to arousing the group of students.
Q. On the part of you or any police officer, acting
under your direction, was there a general purpose to
disperse the entire crowd, which had gathered, or not?
A. Yes.
Q. Then, your purpose, stated briefly, in issuing this
order—
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, I respectfully submit that
the City Manager has demonstrated himself as a very
able -witness and can make his own testimony.
The Court: Objection sustained.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, surely the wit
ness, no matter how capable he is, can respond to a
question. I don’t exactly understand that objection.
Mr. Perry: My objection was that the question was
leading. I ’m awfully sorry.
Q. Officially, your official action, Mr. McNayr, with
reference to that, what was your reason for dispersing
this crowd?
A. My official reason for dispersing the crowd was
to avoid possible conflict, riot and dangers to the gen-
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eral public, and, of course, included in the general pub
lic, was danger to these various students themselves.
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, may it please the Court, we
object to the answer of the witness on the ground that
the same is conjectural and speculative. It is too in
definite to give these defendants anything to meet in
the form of real evidence. I think to that extent the
witness can say what he did. Certainly the rules of evi
dence will permit him to do so. It is for this Court, we
respectfully pray, to say whether or not what he did
was proper. Now, as to what motivated the witness, we
submit that the answer that the witness has just given
is conjectural and speculative and we move that it be
stricken.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, the City Mana
ger took official action as the man in charge of using
the City Police Department at that time. Certainly
he has the right to say why he took that action. It is as
simple as that. He has not speculated on any fact. He
hasn’t said anything was going to happen. He said it
appeared to him that in those circumstances that some
thing could happen. He is really a police official. He is
charged with the duty of observing all of these circum
stances and if it should appear to him that there arises
a danger to public peace, it is his duty to take action
and I can see absolutely no objection to this witness
stating why, in his official capacity, as a man in charge
of the City Police Department, he took the drastic ac
tion of arrest.
Mr. Perry: Now, Your Honor, if he says that testi
mony about a riot is not conjectural, my answer to that
is there is no testimony here that any riot took place,
so that’s conjectural, purely speculative, if anybody
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gg talks about a riot at this time. There is no evidence at
all in this case concerning an inclination on the part of
anybody to commit a riot or to do violence toward any
body. I respectfully submit that this witness can testi
fy as to what he did. His reasons are his own and
should not become a part of the record in this case.
There is further some question about this witness’
official capacity to act upon the State House grounds.
The Court: Objection overruled.
Q. Mr. McNayr, did you hear or observe anything
on the part of these students, that were there in your
70 presence, which indicated to you that there might be a
possible danger to the community1?
Mr. Perry: That question is leading.
Mr. Coleman: I haven’t said anything about any riot.
Mr. Perry: The question is leading. We object to it.
Mr. Coleman: He can state whether or not he saw or
heard anything which indicated that official action was
necessary.
The Court: Objection overruled.
A. Yes, I did.
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Q. You have already testified, Mr. McNayr, I be
lieve, that you did order these students dispersed with
in fifteen minutes ?
A. Yes.
Q. Did they disperse in accordance with your order?
A. They did not.
Q. What then occurred?
A. I then asked Chief of Police Campbell to direct
his men to line up the students and march them or
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Q. They were placed nnder arrest!
A. They were placed under arrest.
Cross Examination
By Mr. Perry:
Q. How long have you served as City Manager of
Columbia!
A. Approximately five years.
Q. I see. As I understand it, a part of your duties as
City Manager happens to be the supervision of the
Police Department!
A. That’s correct.
Q. Now, your duties, as City Manager of the City of
Columbia, I believe, take in the full boundaries of the
City of Columbia, do they not!
A. Yes, they do.
Q. Do they take you upon the State House grounds!
A. It is my understanding that they do.
Q. Now, maybe you and I have some difference of
opinion concerning your jurisdiction, as I understand
it. Do your City Police police the State House
grounds!
A. Yes, they have authority to police the State
House grounds.
Q. Mr. McNayr, to your own knowledge, do you
know who owns the title to the State House grounds!
A. To the best of my knowledge, the State House
grounds are owned by the State of South Carolina.
Q. And not by the City of Columbia!
!A. Not by the City of Columbia.
Q. For instance, the City of Columbia does not have
the right to tax that property!
A. If they have, they have never exercised it.
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Q. Mr. McNayr, perhaps the Court will make a rul-
77 mg some time later concerning this matter of the right
of the police to enter upon the State House grounds.
A. Let me clarify that position. You must under
stand that we were there working in cooperation with
the State agencies, at the request of the State agencies.
We feel that we have a cooperative arrangement with
all State and local agencies here in the City and in this
area whereby we cooperate fully with the Sheriffs of
the various counties, with SLED, with State Highway
Patrol. They were all present and had officers present
78 at this time and we were cooperating fully in this
action.
Q. I understand, Sir. As to who called who, that
might also be some matter of—
A. I can clarify that too.
Q. You had information first that there was a meet
ing at Zion Baptist Church, didn’t you?
A. That is correct.
Q. Sir, did SLED give you that information?
A. I ’m sure that it came through the South Carolina
79 Law Enforcement Division because at the scene there
were officers from that group.
Q. Did they convey to you—
Mr. Coleman: That is entirely irrelevant.
Mr. Perry: We are on cross examination and we
have a right to explore this subject.
Mr. Coleman: Cross examination should stick to the
issues.
Mr. Perry: I submit that this is not irrelevant. I
think that basically we are dealing with the problem
80 of what motivated the police on this occasion and we
are entitled to explore it. We ask the Court to permit
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us wide latitude on cross examination as the Supreme
Court of this State has held repeatedly that we are en
titled to that.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, these defend
ants here are charged with the specific crime of breach
of the peace. Mr. McNayr has testified as to what he
did with regard to the circumstances leading up to the
charge made against these defendants. How could it be
possibly relevant where Mr. McNayr got his informa
tion. I think we would be going down a rabbit road to
try to ferret out all these possible sources of informa
tion. He may have gotten it from fifty people. He may
have gotten it over the telephone from some unknown
individual. I don’t think it makes any difference.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, I think along the
broad issue of Mr. McNavr’s authority to act in a
policing capacity on this occasion is in issue and we
respectfully submit that we have the right to cross ex
amine him.
The Court: Pertaining to the authority on the Capi
tol grounds, that’s not the question before the Court.
Mr. Perry: I respectfully submit that it is and Your
Honor will be required to rule on it.
The Court: Objection overruled.
Mr. Coleman: I believe the last question was the
further questioning along the line of where this infor
mation came from to Mr. McNayr. The objection now is
to the further questioning now of Mr. McNayr as to
the source of the information in regards to this march.
The Court: The objection is sustained. I don’t be
lieve it pertains to the issue in this case.
Q. ,As I understand it, sir, you cooperated with the
Columbia City Police Department, the Richland Coun-
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ty Sheriff Department and the South Carolina Law
Enforcement Division on this occasion?
A. On this and other occasions.
Q. I ’m talking about this occasion.
A. Yes.
Q. On this occasion you cooperated with the South
Carolina Law Enforcement Division?
A. Yes, we did.
Q. Did the Law Enforcement Division call you or
did you call the Law Enforcement Division?
Mr. Coleman: Objection.
The Court: The Court has ruled that out, the source
of information. Rephrase your question, if you can.
Q. Now, when you went over to the State House
grounds on this occasion, how many police officers of
the Columbia City Police did you have with you?
A. I can’t give an exact number.
Q. Would you give us an estimate, please, sir, you
are head of the Police Department, I believe.
A. I would estimate that there were between thirty
to thirty-five officers over there.
Q. I see. Was the Chief of Columbia Police present?
A. Yes, he was.
Q. Nevertheless, you, as City Manager, were in com
mand?
A. I don’t particularly like your words “ in com
mand” . We were working cooperatively together.
Q. Your position is one of authority. You are over
him.
A. That is correct.
Q. And in matters where both of you see fit to ex
ercise your duties, one of you obviously has to be in
charge?
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jA. That’s right.
Q. And, in this particular situation then, the City
Manager would be?
A. Normally, yes.
Q. Was the City Manager in command on this oc
casion?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, sir, he stated that the group of Negroes
students entered the State House grounds. Where did
they first enter? Did they enter, for instance, at the
horseshoe or down near Assembly Street or near Sum- 98
ter Street?
A. The primary group entered at the horseshoe.
Q. I see. Now, you speak of the primary group, why
do you speak of them in that manner? Were they divi
ded into small groups?
A. They were divided into small groups and I did
observe one group at the tail end of the larger group
entering the grounds from the Assembly Street corner.
Q. Approximately what was the size of the various
groups ? 9i
A. They varied in size from fifteen people to pos
sibly thirty.
Q. I see. Now, as they were walking along the pub
lic streets, how were they formed? Were they single
file or in groups?
A. They were in pairs.
Q. In pairs?
A. That’s correct.
Q. Column of twos, in other words?
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Q. And each group consisted of anywhere from fif
teen to thirty. Would you estimate the size of the first
or primary group?
A. When I speak of primary, I ’m talking about the
larger groups that moved up towards the horseshoe,
and I would say there were probably 150 of those and
about thirty that I observed going on the State House
grounds down below, which I would term a secondary
group.
Q. I ’m sorry. I don’t believe I understand your testi
mony. Did not they all enter from the same direction
or did they enter from different directions'?
A. They entered originally from the same direction..
Q. Did they all enter in from the horseshoe?
A. They did not all enter by the horseshoe, accord
ing to my observation.
Q. I see. If they did not enter all by the horseshoe,
where did another group enter?
A. I guess you would describe it as the corner of
Gervais and Assembly Streets.
Q. I see.
A. I ’m not certain of the original group movement.
All did not come forward or enter through the horse
shoe. It may have been that they did and that later on
I saw a group going back up from the corner of As
sembly Street into this area.
Q. Where were you stationed at that particular time,
Mr. McNayr?
A. I was stationed at the entrance to the horseshoe,
adjacent to Blossom Street. In other words, the west
ern entrance I guess you would describe it.
Q. I ’m sorry, I ’m a little bit mixed up at the mo
ment. Did I understand that the State House grounds
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are surrounded by Gervais Street on one side of the
horseshoe, that we speak of enters from the Gervais
Street side, and near the Post Office you have Sumter
Street, and to the rear that is Senate Street and, then,
over on the Eastern side Assembly Street. Now, I ’m
sorry but I thought I heard you say Blossom Street?
A. If I did, I was in error. I meant Assembly Street.
I meant to say Assembly Street, which would be the
Eastern entrance to the horseshoe.
Q. You were at the Eastern entrance?
A. That’s correct.
Q. At the Assembly Street entrance?
A. At the entrance nearest Assembly Street on Ger
vais, of course.
Q. Is that entrance down near the corner of Gervais
.and Assembly?
A. No, I ’m talking about the horseshoe, which is di
rectly opposite Main Street with the monument in the
center. The entrance that I ’m talking about is that
eastern most part of the horseshoe, facing Main Street.
Q. Were you inside the horseshoe or were you inside
the walk or outside?
A. I was on the sidewalk, just outside or on, which
ever way you want to describe it.
Q. How many officers were in your particular
group?
A. In the immediate vicinity?
Q. Yes, Sir.
A. Very few, not over two or three.
Q. Was Mr. Henry Walker of the Governor’s Office
present?
A. Yes, he was.
Q. Was your Chief of Police present?
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A. Yes, he was.
Q. Were a few other of your officers present?
A. Yes, they were.
Q. I believe you said that the primary group entered
by the horseshoe and walked around the State House
grounds. Did you accompany them around the State
House grounds?
A. You raised an objection previously when I tried
to tell you the chain of events leading there. I ’d be most
happy now to do it, if you’d like to hear it.
Q. My question is : did you accompany them?
A. I did not accompany them.
Q. You did not accompany them?
A. That’s right. Before the Court can get the whole
chain of events, and I ’m sure you want them to have
the chain of events, I would like very much to tell the
Court exactly what happened because I ’m interested
in justice in this case, too.
Q. I ’m certainly happy to know that, Mr. McNayr,
and if we can get it without undue speculation on any
body’s part, I ’m sure that His Honor would be in a
much better position to determine his views.
A. Would you agree to my stating the chain of
events ?
Q. I would be most happy to have you do so.
A. When the groups approached the State House
grounds at the horseshoe, they were met by Mr. Harry
Walker of the Governor’s Office. Mr. Walker pro
ceeded, in my presence—
Q. Mr. McNayr, you will recognize that we are
speaking of a legal technicality. It is not my purpose to
keep you from telling the chain of events but it must
come of your own observation and not from—
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A. This is coming from my own observation and
within my hearing.
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, previously we have object
ed to statements made by Mr. Walker and Your Honor
has ruled on those and I ’m afraid I must stick with my
objection on that particular point.
The Court: Objection sustained.
Mr. Perry: We’d be glad to have Mr. Walker come
and I might say we’ve invited Governor Hollings and
we’d be glad to have him come. I ’m sure that we want
all of the official light thrown on this case that we could
possibly have, but we respectfully urge that Mr. Mc
Nayr can tell what he personally saw.
A. This I did personally see and hear but you seem
to object to my speaking what I heard and saw.
Q. May I just stick with the line of questioning, Mr.
McNayr. As I understand it then, you did not personal
ly accompany the group around the State House
grounds ?
A. No, I did not.
Q. All right, Sir. Did any of your officers accompany
the group around the State House?
A. I ’m not certain that any of my officers did. I
know that there were officers, SLED people, there were
State Highway Patrol people and I believe that some
of my officers walked with them, too, around the
grounds but I can’t state that categorically.
Q. But the group walked in columns of two on the
sidewalk into the horseshoe, is that correct?
A. That’s right.
Q. Are you able, of your own knowledge, to say what
course they took as they walked around the State
House grounds?
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A. No, I ’m not.
Q. Did you see this group at any other time after
they might have gone around and come back again?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Were you stationed exactly where you had been
stationed previously?
A. Except across the horseshoe, on the other side of
the horseshoe, on the public side.
Q. I think I understood you to say, if I ’m wrong cor
rect me, that some of the young people were carrying
signs ?
A. You didn’t understand me to say that.
Q. I ’m very sorry, Sir. Were the defendants speaks
ing to each other?
A. I would assume they were unless there was some
enmity between them, they were bound to be.
Q. That does not answer my question, Mr. McNayr.
Of your knowledge, did you observe them saying any
thing to each other or to anybody?
A. If I may, if it please the Court, the attorney
seems to be willing to take my word for some hearsay
and not for others. He objected to what Mr. Walker
had to say but he’s not objecting to what these people
had to say.
The Court: If I understand it, the defense attorney
is not asking what was said. He is asking did you hear
any words or any noises between the defendants, as I
understand it.
A. The air was full of noises, of course. People were
talking and jabbering and carrying on.
Q. That still does not answer my question. Did the
young people, the young Negroes, make any noises
among themselves?
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A. Yes.
Q. What did they say?
The Court: The Court will have to rule out that
question of what they said. As I ruled previously, that
is hearsay.
Mr. Perry: Yes, Sir.
Q. When they first entered the horseshoe area, I be
lieve you said that there were only a few officers pres
ent, not many bystanders, the bystanders later came,
as the walking ensued?
A. That’s right.
Q. So that you were able to see and observe and hear
a great deal at that time, which you may not have been
able to hear when the group became larger?
A. Yes.
Q. Would that be correct?
A. That’s correct.
Q. Were the Negro college students or other stu
dents well demeaned? Were they well dressed and were
they orderly?
A. Yes, they were.
Q. That was really what I was getting to. You re
gard them as an orderly group of persons?
A. Yes, they were up to the point when I asked them
to disperse.
Q. I understand. I understand you perfectly. There
was nothing about their demeanor, their appearance,
their dress nor their conduct which violated any law
that you have any knowledge of, was there?
,A. Now, I can’t answer specifically on that. I did not
originally state that they were carrying placards, but
they were carrying placards, whether that’s a violation
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of the law, I ’m not free to say but, other than that, they
were well demeaned.
Q. You did not observe any boisterous conduct on
their part?
A. Not initially, no.
Q. Mr. McNayr, I believe you said that you had
stationed around the State House grounds approxi
mately thirty officers of the Columbia City Police?
A. I think it would be better to say that Chief Camp
bell had stationed them around the grounds.
Q. You said that Chief Campbell had about thirty.
Now, did Chief Strom have a group of officers present?
A. There was a group of officers present from
SLED.
Q. Would you estimate the size of Chief Strom’s
group?
A. I ’d find it difficult for many of Chief Strom’s men
are not known to me personally.
Q. Then, in addition to the thirty Columbia City
Police, there were a number of South Carolina Law
Enforcement Division men?
A. That’s right.
Q. Were there also many from the Richland County
Sheriff’s Department?
A. I ’m not at all certain.
Q. I believe you previously stated that on this oc
casion you were in touch with the Sheriff’s Office and
the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division?
A. I said we were cooperating. We have called them
on this and other occasions.
Q. You do not specifically recall that there were men
from the Sheriff’s Office present?
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A. No, there, again, I ’m not personally familiar with
the various officers in the Sheriff’s Office.
Q. Now, since this was during the noon hour or ap
proaching the noon hour, you have stated that during
the lunch hour many of the people began to congregate
around the State House grounds?
A. Yes.
Q. Can you describe the apparent attitude of the
group that congregated as the Negro students walked
around ? By that I mean, I am quite frankly asking you
whether or not they were apparently curious or was
their attitude hostile or was it otherwise?
A. My attorney is not objecting but I ’d like to in
form the Court that this is the very line of questioning
which the attorney objected to just a short time ago,
conjecture on the part of the witness.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, I have no ob
jection to Mr. McNayr answering the question. It’s a
proper question.
The Court: The witness will answer.
A. I would say initially the crowd could be best de
scribed as curious as to what was going on.
Q. Initially?
A. Initially.
Q. Are you in a position to estimate the size of the
group of persons, on-lookers, who congregated around
the State House during the time the student group at
tempted to walk around? .
A. I think I have already testified to that. ^ '
Q. I ’m not sure you have.
A. I would estimate it at around 250 to 300 people
and I’m not an authority on the size of crowds.
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Q. I believe yon estimated abont 200 Negro students
walking around?
A. Yes.
Q. I have reference to the group of on-lookers;
that’s the ones I was asking about.
rA. That’s the group that I have reference to also.
Q. Where did the group of on-lookers congregate?
Did they congregate at the horseshoe or all around the
State House grounds?
A. I have previously testified this: that they may
well have been all around the State House grounds but,
if they were, they were beyond my observation, and,
if there were on-lookers on the whole area, the estimate
of numbers would probably have risen two or three
times. I don’t know. The people that I saw were con
gregated right around the horseshoe area, many
backed up into the driveway, into the horseshoe area,
across the sidewalk on the lawns adjacent to the horse
shoe area and across Gervais Street, on the corner of
Main and Gervais, on both corners of Main and Ger
vais.
m Q. Did they block the street?
A. There was blocking of the sidewalks, not the
streets.
Q. So, the on-lookers blocked the sidewalks?
A. There was blocking of the sidewalks—yes.
Q. Did you take any official action against the on
lookers who were congregating on the streets?
A. I didn’t have an opportunity to, sir.
Q. You had an opportunity to say something to the
Negroes?
128 A. Not only to the Negroes, but to the whites on the
side of the street where I was located.
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Q. Now, sir, do I understand you to say that you did
take official action to have the on-lookers move on or
that you did not?
A. We took official action to have them clear the
sidewalks in the area adjacent to where we were stand
ing—yes.
Q. ,As far as you can determine the appearance of
the group of on-lookers, were they merely curious?
A. You’re talking about as the demonstration went
on?
Q. Yes, sir.
A. It’s difficult to say. I ’m afraid that curiosity
changes and brings forth possible elements which could
create difficulty.
Q. Did you see any of those possible elements?
A. Yes, I did, as I have on every occasion when these
groups have demonstrated.
Q. Speaking of this particular occasion, did you see
the possible elements there that day?
A. Yes.
Q. Who were those persons?
A. I can’t tell you who they were. I can tell you they
were present in the group. They were recognized as
possible trouble makers.
Q. Did you and your police chief do anything about
placing those people under arrest?
A. No, we had no occasion to place them under
arrest.
Q. Now, sir, you have stated that there were pos
sible trouble makers and your whole testimony has
been that, as City Manager, as supervisor of the City
Police, your object is to preserve the peace and law
and order?
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A. That’s right.
Q. Yet you took no official action against people who
were present and possibly might have done some harm
to these people!
A. We took no official action because there was none
to be taken. They were not creating a disturbance,
those particular people were not at that time doing
anything to make trouble but they could have been.
Q. Did you order them off the State House grounds !
A. They were not on the State House grounds, those
that I observed.
Q. Did you order them off the streets adjacent!
A. They were on public sidewalks and we made them
clear the sidewalks so that people could get through.
Q. You don’t know who these people were but never
theless you recognized them as trouble makers!
A. I don’t know them by name—no.
Q. But the minute you spotted them, you knew they
were trouble makers!
A. I knew there was a possibility of trouble there.
Q. Yet you took no official action against them!
A. The official action I took was to get rid of the
cause of the possible difficulties.
Q. But you just said the Negro students weren’t
doing anything wrong, that is, in terms of misde
meanor!
A. They were not obeying lawful orders, what I con
sider lawful orders in dispersing. They were the cause
of the group gathering. The group, the so-called
trouble makers, would never have appeared had it not
been for the demonstration taking place.
Q. Did you talk to the trouble makers!
A. No, I did not.
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Q. You don’t know why they appeared, do you!
A. I think it’s quite apparent why they appeared.
It’s apparent to you and it’s apparent to me and it’s
apparent to the population of this area why they ap
peared.
Q. Yet, if it was so apparent that they were trouble
makers and they had come because of this situation,
your chief law enforcement official of the City of Co
lumbia took no official action by placing them under
arrest?
A. I took official action by moving the cause of the
possible difficulty. *>
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, I ’m hesitant to
interrupt counsel in this cross examination, however,
if I have counted correctly Mr. McNayr has answered
that same question four times and I can’t see any
point in belaboring that point. He said he did not place
them under arrest, he said he had no reason to and I
can’t see any purpose in stretching this thing out in
terminably.
The Court: Objection sustained.
Q. Mr. McNayr, you have stated that you knew one
man whom you identified as the apparent leader of
student movements in Columbia!
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know any of the other students who were
involved!
A. I know them only by sight.
Q. Do you know all of them by sight!
A. No, that would be impossible.
Q. Thank you, sir. Do you know the defendants in
this case by sight!
A. I don’t believe so, no.
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Q. So, you’re not really able to identify them as re
gards their activity in any particular part or anything
that might have happened that day?
A. I think I might recognize one or two out of the
group of eight.
Q. So far as you know, did any of the officers having
any authority concurrent with yours place any of the
other persons under arrest, who were recognized as
trouble makers?
A. Not to my knowledge.
142 Q. So, that no one, not the South Carolina Law En
forcement Division, the Columbia Sheriff’s Depart
ment, the Columbia Police Department nor in fact the
Governor’s Office, took any action against other per
sons who were recognized by you as being trouble
makers on this occasion?
A. If I may, I think you may have misunderstood
what I said. I said they were possible trouble makers.
If I may continue, I ’m talking about what we described
as the long-haired kids, who appear on the streets of
Columbia on these occasions; I ’m talking about some of
143 our rougher element, who tend to appear on the oc
casions of these demonstrations. I may have misused
the word “ trouble makers” . They are potential trouble.
They represent to me trouble.
Q. Mr. McNayr, is it the policy of your administra
tion, when persons whom you recognize as poential
makers—
Mr. Coleman: Objection, Tour Honor. We are
getting into something that has absolutely nothing to
do with the facts in this case. The policy of the City
Manager might embrace a hundred factors, which
would have nothing to do with this case. He has testi-
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lied as to the actions; certainly he cannot cross ex
amine on any part he has testified to only as far as the
facts and what he has done on the scene. Why get into
the field of policy and why things are done? That is
ridiculous.
Mr. Perry: I just wanted to know, Your Honor,
whether or not a gangster, here on our streets, would
stop me from walking down the streets and you’d put
me in jail—why not put the gangster in jail?
The Court: Objection sustained. We’re getting too
far out as to policy and what would happen under a
given set of circumstances.
Q. As I understand, sir—
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, do you take judicial notice
of the fact that the State House grounds are occupied
by the Executive Branch of the South Carolina gov
ernment, the Legislative Branch and the Judicial
Branch, and that, during the period covered in the
warrant in this matter, to wit: March the 2nd, the
Legislature of South Carolina was in session. Do you
take judicial notice of those facts?
Mr. Coleman: We’ll stipulate those facts.
The Court: All right.
Q. Thank you, Mr. McNayr.
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Just one more question, Mr. McNayr. With refer
ence to the Legislature being in session at the time of
this occurrence, the fact which has been stipulated by
counsel in this case, did that fact have any bearing on
your actions to keep down a breach of the peace or
any possible or probable circumstances which, in your
opinion, might lead to the breach?
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A. Yes, it did. I was informed soon after arriving
that the House of Delegates was out of session hut the
Senate was still in session, and certainly that was an
other of many factors which entered into the decision
to hold or to stop and disperse this group.
Q. Mr. McNayr, you Avere asked on cross examina
tion as to the orderliness of the crowd. I assume that
the crowd there meant the entire group, including the
students and others. I believe you testified that up to
a point the students were orderly. Were they orderly
throughout the time of your presence at the scene?
160 A. No, they were not.
Q. What occurred after the orderliness ceased?
A. There was general singing, stamping of feet,
tramping, singing in a very loud voice, mostly hymns,
I would say. And, again, if I may use Mr. Carter’s
name, Mr. Carter’s talk to them about dispersing—
Mr. Perry: May I inquire of counsel as to whether
or not he has reference now to before the students were
placed under arrest or afterwards?
A. My testimony is before they were placed under
151 arrest, just before.
Q. Did you recognize any?
A. No, I didn’t.
Q. Just two more questions. With regard to the—
I believe you used the term possible trouble makers—
were any of those told to move on from the sidewalks?
A. Yes.
Q. Did any refuse to do so?
A. No, they did not.
Q. I believe you have already testified that you asked
the Negro students to disperse, ordered them to?
A. I did through the recognized leader.
Q. Did they obey that order?
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A. No, they did not.
By Mr. Perry:
Q. Mr. McNayr, you said they sang songs, I believe
you said some of them started songs before they were
placed under arrest?
A. Yes.
Q. As far as you know, did everybody start singing
before they were placed under arrest or did only some
of them?
A. I could say that everyone did.
Q. You did not recognize any of the songs they were
singing?
A. No, I didn’t. In fact, I wasn’t paying particular
attention to them. All that I know was that there was
a good deal of talk and shouting along with the singing.
Q. Did you hear them singing the Star Spangled
Banner ?
A. Yes, I do recall them singing the Star Spangled
Banner.
Q. That’s a very pretty song, isn’t it?
A. It is, if properly sung in the right spirit but it
seemed to me it wasn’t in the right spirit on that oc
casion.
Q. They weren’t singing in a contemptuous manner,
were they?
A. Not in a contemptuous manner but in a loud and
very disorderly manner.
Q. Well, Mr. McNayr, the Star Spangled Banner
sounds better when it rises so full.
A. Well, maybe I wasn’t in a position to appreciate
it then.
Q. Possibly that was the case.
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The Court: I don’t think we should go into whether
or not this song was sung or in what manner it was
sung. What does that have to do with it!
Mr. Perry: My only purpose, of course, is to—coun
sel asked Mr. McNayr about a point when they turned
from orderliness to boisterousness and we are now de
scribing the boisterousness that Mr. McNayr has in
mind. Now, he said among other things, the Star
Spangled Banner and I ’m at loss to see anything bois
terous about the singing of the Star Spangled Banner.
The Court: We’re not talking about the quality of
the singing.
Q. Mr. McNayr, did you hear them sing America?
A. I didn’t recognize it.
Q. Just as you were not in the mood to hear the Star
Spangled Banner, they might have sung that?
A. I said I was not in the mood to appreciate the
way they sang it. Now, you would have to he present,
sir, to understand what I ’m talking about, the differ
ence between singing something in an orderly fashion
and doing it boisterously, stamping your feet and
shouting and yelling at the same time. That is what
took place.
Q. Isn’t it a fact that most of the singing took place
after the arrest was made and during the time the po
lice were carrying them to the Police Station?
A. There was an awful lot taking place hut this
took place after David Carter harangued each group
and I mean harangued—it was a real rabble-rousing
talk, “Will you do it? Will you not do it? I ’m going
to jail, will you go to jail?”—that sort of thing.
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, you have ruled out anything
that was said by David Carter. Will you now direct
that that he stricken?
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Mr. Coleman: Your Honor, will you instruct counsel
not to phrase his questions so as to bring out exactly
what he objected to here earlier?
A. If you don’t want to hear it, don’t ask the ques
tion.
The Court: The testimony given as to what David
Carter said is stricken from the record.
Q. Mr. McNayr, the real reason these people were
placed under arrest was because they walked around
the State House grounds and, after they were told not
to go again, they entered again in violation of the or
ders that were given to them? That was the real reason
they were placed under arrest?
A. No, indeed. That has not been testified to in any
wav by me.
Q. That is not the real reason they were arrested?
A. No.
Q. Had they simply walked past this person who
told them not to proceed again, they would not have
been placed under arrest?
A. If that person had requested that they be placed
under arrest, we would have cooperated, but that was
not the circumstances, so far as I was concerned. You
will not allow me to give you the circumstances, which
I tried to do and you said that was hearsay.
Q. Thank you, Mr. McNayr.
The Court: Court will recess for ten minutes. (11:50
a. m.)
(Court reconvened.)
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]g6 Whereupon, Mr. Coleman called Chief L. J. Camp
bell who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows;
Direct Examination
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Mr. Campbell, I believe you are the Chief of Po
lice for the City of Columbia?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did anything come to your attention on March
the 2nd last which caused you to make your appearance
in and around the State House in an official capacity?
166 A. It did.
Q. Will you relate in your own words exactly what
you did in regard to any matter within your personal
knowledge ?
A. I received information that a group of students
were gathering at the Zion Baptist Church and I later
observed it myself, personally. I informed Mr. McNayr,
City Manager, and later I picked him up and we both
went to the Zion Baptist Church on Washington Street,
Washington and Gadsden Streets. There we found a
167 group of students at Zion Baptist Church.
Q. Where did you go from Zion Baptist Church?
A. We left Zion Baptist Church and went to the
State House, the horseshoe at the State House.
Q. Did anything occur there?
A. We arrived at the State House a short time ahead
of the maching group.
Q. What marching group? Would you describe
them?
A. A group of Negro students.
Q. Where did they make their appearance?
A. They came up Gervais Street, from Gadsden
Street to Gervais and Gervais up to the State House.
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Q. Where were you at that time?
A. I was on the East corner of Gervais and the
horseshoe, Main Street.
Q. Did you talk to the group?
A. I did not talk to the group at that time.
Q. Were any official instructions given to the group
at that time?
A. They were.
Q. What was the nature of the instructions?
A. They were instructed that they had a right, as
a citizen, to go through the State House grounds, as
any other citizen has, as long as they were peaceful.
Q. What happened then, so far as the activity of
this group of students was concerned, immediately
thereafter?
A. Each group was instructed the same. Then they
proceeded through the State House grounds. They con
tinued going through the State House grounds.
Q. Did you remain in the horseshoe during this time?
A. In and around the horseshoe.
Q. For how long a period of time did the students
proceed in and about the State House grounds without
interference from you?
A. I would say approximately thirty to forty min
utes before they were given instructions from our City
Manager that they should disband and they were given
fifteen minutes to decide whether they wanted to dis
band or not.
Q. Chief Campbell, to your knowledge, did any police
officer or anyone else interfere with the students’ ac
tivities during this thirty or forty minute period, which
you have just related?
A. They did not.
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Q. I believe about this horseshoe in front of the
State House, there are sidewalks on bothe sides and
lanes for vehicular traffic around the horseshoe and
back out into Gfervais and Main Street?
A. That’s correct.
Q. At the time the students first made their appear
ance there, were there numbers of other people in and
about the State House grounds ?
A. When they first arrived?
Q. Yes.
A. There were a few civilians and several police of
ficers.
Q. Did you observe this?
A. Yes.
Q. After a period of thirty or forty minutes, that
you have just stated that the students marched without
interference, did you observe the crowd at that time?
A. I did.
Q, Had it increased, decreased or remained the
same?
A. Considerably increased.
Q. Can you estimate the number of the crowd ap
proximately, including the students ?
A. Across Gervais Street and also on the sidewalks
and the steps of the State House, there were 300 or 350.
Q. Now, with relation to the sidewalks on both sides
of the horseshoe, on Gervais Street adjacent to the
State House grounds and the lanes for vehicular traffic
around the horseshoe, how was the crowd situated with
reference to those sidewalks and lanes?
A. They were right crowded and, from time to time,
we had to ask the pedestrians to move on,
Q. Was the street blocked?
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A. We had to place a traffic man at the intersection
of Gervais and Main to handle traffic and pedestrians.
Q. Was a vehicular traffic lane blocked?
A. It was, that was in the horseshoe.
Q. After a period of thirty or forty minutes in which
these students were allowed to march without interfer
ence of any kind, did you then take further official
action?
A. As I have stated, they were given to about 1:00
o’clock, or fifteen minutes, to leave and at 1:15 they
did not leave, and then they were placed under arrest.
Q. You were there, Chief Campbell, and saw the
crowd of people, students, those who had come upon
the scene during the thirty or forty minute period, why
did it appear to you that official action was due to be
taken ?
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, we object to the question.
I respectfully submit that you have previously ruled,
with regard to the testimony of the previous witness,
that he could tell what he did, but as to his reasons, I
believe that you did not permit the witness to go too
much into a speculative area. We submit that the ques
tion may call for the witness’ conclusions or reasons,
some of which might be speculative as to what
prompted them to act. Certainly, Chief can say what
he did but as to why he did it would be for Your Honor
to determine.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, there is abso
lutely no element of speculation in Chief Campbell tell
ing why he did what he did. He’s not speculating as to
any facts. He has made a criminal charge. He is cer
tainly entitled to tell why he made it.
The Court: I ’ll have to overrule the objection. In
view of his experience, the objection is overruled.
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A. I would say in my experience over a period of
years I felt that it was time that action should be taken.
Q. Why?
A. To keep down any type of violence or injury to
anyone.
Mr. Perry: Now, Your Honor, we object and ask
that that be stricken on the grounds that the answer is
speculative and conjectural. Chief says to keep down
any violence and there is no testimony that any vio
lence was about to take place.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, the Chief is
testifying as an expert police officer. He has not stated
that violence would take place. He has said that draw
ing from his experience as a police officer, during the
factors which were involved in this situation, it was
his opinion that there could possibly be violence and
disorder arising out of this situation. I believe he is
fully entitled to testify.
The Court: Objection overruled on the same grounds
as before, his experience, my previous statement as to
his experience.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, may I see the
warrant?
The Court: I believe counsel for the defendants has
it. Would you like the Court to have some copies of
that made?
Mr. Perry: I ’d be most grateful, Judge.
The Court: I ’ll have some made for you.
Q. Chief Campbell, I hand you a paper entitled “Ar
rest Warrant” , which is signed—the affidavit of which
is signed by one L. J. Campbell. Would you look at
that and see if you recognize your signature there?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You did sign that warrant ?
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A. Yes, sir.
Q. Would you please look at the names contained in
the warrant?
A. That is my warrant and that is my signature and
that is the names.
Q. Do you recognize that warrant as containing the
names of some of the people who were arrested on
March the 2nd?
A. I don’t remember all of the names but I would
say that is the warrant that I signed.
Q. And it contained the names of the students?
A. That’s right.
Q. You don’t recognize, of course, any of these peo
ple personally?
A. In the whole entire group, I know eight or ten or
twelve, something like that personally.
Q. Chief Campbell, do you have any statement which
you would like to make in regard to this situation, re
garding the facts involved?
A. No, not right at the moment.
Cross Examination
By Mr. Perry:
Q. Chief Campbell, I believe you stated that as the
various groups went into the State House grounds, you
personally admonished each group that they had a
right to go in?
A. I didn’t personally.
Q. I ’m sorry I misunderstood you. Who did this?
A. Mr. Walker.
Q. I see. Do you agree with Mr. McNayr’s estimate
of the size of the various groups of young people as
they walked through the grounds? I believe Mr. Me-
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ig9 Nayr stated that they numbered from fifteen to thirty
persons in each group.
A. I would say that they weren’t quite that large but
he’s approximately right.
Q. You say they weren’t quite that large?
A. I ’d say twenty to twenty-five to thirty. At times
the group was larger than others; more would get to
gether and some would go off to themselves in smaller
groups and in that period of time, it would vary a
Avhole lot.
Q. I understand.
190 A. At times, it may have been thirty and then it
would be twelve or fifteen.
Q. Each group of students walked along in column
of twos?
A. Sometimes two and I did see some in single-file.
Q. There was ample room for other persons going
in the same direction or the opposite direction to pass
on the same sidewalk?
A. I wouldn’t say they were blocking the sidewalk;
now, that was through the State House grounds.
191 Q. Their demeanor was generally good?
A. At times.
Q. Wouldn’t you say they were well-behaved?
A. At times.
Q. You stated in your affidavit, Chief Campbell, that
the young people were carrying placards ?
A. They had cards.
Q. I do not believe that you have previously testified
concerning these placards?
A. No, I haven’t mentioned the cards.
19 Q. But in the affidavit which you signed, before the
issuance of this warrant, you did make mention of the
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fact that they assembled, impeded the normal traffic
and they paraded with placards?
A. I wouldn’t say that all of them had them, but
some of them did.
Q. Some of them did. Of course, yon do not know
whether any of the defendants on trial today had
placards ?
A. I couldn’t swear to that.
Q. What was the nature of the language used on the
placards ?
A. It was religious verses. I read some of them.
Q. I see. Chief Campbell, have you previously had
occasion to deal with groups of Negro students on the
streets of Columbia in recent times?
A. I have.
Q. Are you aware of a widespread student move
ment which is designed to possibly bring about a
change in the structure of racial segregation laws and
custom?
A. I am.
Q. Would you regard the group, which walked
through the State House grounds on March the 2nd, as
a group for such a purpose?
A. There was a purpose, I would think.
Q. Were the signs which they carried in any way de
pict that particular purpose?
A. It resembled that, yes.
Q. Did you confiscate any of those signs, Chief?
A. I did not.
Q. But it suffices to say that the signs dd bespeak
the general purpose?
A. The signs were taken up but they were not taken
up by us.
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Q. I understand. Of course, you do not regard the
carrying of signs as breach of peace, do you?
A. Well, it might mean—as to what purpose was
behind it.
Q. Mr. McNayr has estimated that you had present
some thirty or more, or possibly a few less, police offi
cers of the City of Columbia?
A. That is a mistake. Mr. McNayr did not know
how many officers I had up there.
Q. How many did you have ?
A. I had approximately fifteen.
Q. Were there other officers of authority?
A. There were some State Highway Patrolmen;
there were some South Carolina Law Enforcement offi
cers present and I believe, I ’m not positive, I believe
there were about three Deputy Sheriffs.
Q. So there were a lot of police officers around on
this occasion. Wouldn’t you agree, Chief Campbell,
that the presence of a large number of police officers
serves to attract a lot of on-lookers, perhaps as much,
if not more so, than the Negro college students walk
ing around the State House?
A. The two together would create quite a bit.
Q. So, the curiosity-lookers were attracted by police
officers as well?
A. The two together would create quite a scene.
Q. Did you see, included among the on-lookers, any
persons whom you regarded as trouble makers?
A. Well, it’s hard to pick out trouble makers all the
time, you know, with a large group of people; you
don’t know what might occur and what’s in the mind
of the people.
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Q. But, sir, you did, at one time, after perhaps con
ferring with other officers, direct the students to dis
band; you or some other officer did. Is that correct?
A. That order came from the City Manager.
Q. I see. Was any order given to the on-lookers to
disband?
A. They were asked to move on.
Q. Did all of them move on when they were ordered
to move on?
A. A lot of them moved on, yes.
Q. Since these young people were generally well-
demeaned, it was actually the fact that they were walk
ing around the State House grounds with placards in
a group, which actually caused their arrest, isn’t it?
A. Well, they were singing and right noisy at times,
particularly after the order was given to give them fif
teen minutes to disband.
Q. You said that you observed them walking around
the State House grounds for some thirty to forty min
utes; did I understand you correctly?
A. I said approximately.
Q. During this period was there any singing?
A. Yes. There was some singing in the horseshoe and
there was some singing on the East corner of the horse
shoe.
Q. I see, and afterwards they were given some fif
teen minutes to disband and I believe that also came
from the City Manager?
A. That was approximately at 1:00 o’clock.
Q. They were given fifteen minutes to disband?
A. Yes.
Q. Having not disbanded, you actually placed them
under arrest? Did you or some other officer?
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A. All of the officers. I placed some under arrest.
Other officers placed some.
Q. I have reference to what authority—did the Co
lumbia Chief of Police or the Director of South Caro
lina Law Enforcement Division?
A. I have authority on State property under a Spe
cial Act.
Q. You do have special authority to police the State
House?
A. Yes, sir, passed by the Legislature.
Q. As I understand you, sir, the various groups of
students walked through the State House grounds,
either in single file or in columns of twos, they walked
in such a manner that it was possible for other per
sons, using the same sidewalk, to pass either going in
the same direction or the opposite direction?
A. I would say so—yes.
Q. So that, therefore, the Negro students did not
block the sidewalks?
A. Not in the State House grounds. I didn’t go in
the State House grounds. I just observed that from a
distance. I stayed at the corner of Gervais and Main
at the horseshoe all during the whole period of time.
I did not leave there. I did place men over the area,
back of the State House and over the grounds.
Q. Did they not block anybody?
A. I did not go back into the grounds myself.
Q. Within your own view, did they block anything?
A. At times they blocked the sidewalk and we asked
them to move over and they did.
Q. They obeyed your commands on that?
A. Yes'.
Q. So that nobody complained that he wanted to use
the sidewalk and he could not do it?
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A. I didn’t have any complaints on that.
Q. How about the vehicular traffic, either in the
horseshoe area or otherwise?
A. The horseshoe area was blocked by the heavy
traffic on Gervais.
Q. It was blocked by whom? The police?
A. Pedestrians and civilians, policemen and auto
mobiles.
Q. I see, but not necessarily by these defendants?
A. No. At times, of course, they would block it when
they were marching across.
Q. Naturally, as they walked across but only for a
reasonable period of time. That horseshoe area that we
described, that leads up to the front of the State House
building, is not really a thoroughfare, is it?
A. No.
Q. It’s a limited parking area used by members of
the State House of Representatives and other officials
in the State House building?
A. I think that’s correct.
Q. It’s not your contention then that these defend
ants blocked anybody’s use of that area?
A. Not to my knowledge. At times, I said, they were
asked to move and they complied with our request.
Q. Then, their crime, if we can call it a crime, seems
to be their refusal to disperse when they were given
orders to disperse?
A. That’s right and the noise.
Q. Wouldn’t you agree that it was their refusal to
disperse that got them arrested?
A. Well, no, not all together. As I have stated be
fore, as I have testified, they were moved for reasons
to avoid trouble. We were afraid that trouble might
have come.
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Q. I see. You were afraid trouble might occur; from
what source?
A. You can’t always tell.
Q. But, if you regarded on this occasion it was suf
ficiently apparent to require you to arrest them, cer
tainly you must have had something in mind?
A. It is my duty to try to avoid trouble if I can, as
a police officer.
Q. I fully appreciate that. I certainly do, but I sim
ply asked you, where was the trouble ?
A. Actually any trouble hadn’t happened but if you
can prevent trouble, it is your duty to do so.
Q. I go along with that. Are you able, sir, to say
where the trouble was?
A. I don’t know.
Q. You didn’t spot it really anywhere, did you?
A. No. We didn’t give it a chance to happen.
Q. Chief, as far as you know, is there any ordinance
of the City of Columbia regarding groups walking in
concert on the public streets of the City of Columbia?
A. With a group of over fifteen, you must have a
permit.
Q. These persons weren’t charged under that ordi
nance?
A. We have an ordinance where you cannot block the
sidewalk.
Q. I understand you signed all of the warrants in
these cases and you signed them under the common
law offense of breach of peace?
A. Breach of the peace.
Q. You’re not charging the violation of any ordi
nance?
A. No.
Q. Thank you, Chief.
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By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Yon spoke of certain orders being given by one
Harry Walker to the students, telling them to disperse
and directing the activities or attempting to in some
way; who is Harry Walker?
A. He is with the Governor’s Office.
Q. What is his official capacity?
A. Liaison officer, with the Governor’s Office, I think.
I ’m not sure.
Q. Did he have charge of the officers there that day?
A. It was my impression that day that he was sub
stituting for Chief Strom, who was out of the City.
That was my impression.
Q. I believe you stated that the behavior of the stu
dents at times was orderly and good. W ere there times
Avhen it was not ?
A. That’s right.
Q. Would you describe that, please?
A. That’s when instructions were given to the stu
dents that they had fifteen minutes to make up their
minds whether to leave or stay.
Q. What was the nature of the activity then?
A. Hollering in a very loud voices.
Q. Did the entire group of students there, including
these defendants, appear to you to be acting in concert
as a group, as a whole ?
A. I don’t get your question.
Q. The entire group of marching students, did they
appear to you to be acting in concert or acting together
in one common action or purpose?
A. Yes, I would say they were following their leader,
one leader, each group had a leader and, when instruc
tions were given by Mr. McNayr as to the fifteen min-
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Ml lites, they had instructions from the head of the group,
which we considered him to he the head of the group.
Q. Did it appear to you from what you saw and
heard that they were all acting together as a group!
A. That’s right.
Q. You were questioned as to the number of officers
on the scene and the point was made that a large group
of officers might have attracted the crowd. Ordinarily,
such a group of officers are not stationed at the State
House!
A. No, sir.
222 Q. Why were they there that day!
A. To keep order.
Q. Was they being there have any relation to the
students being there!
A. Yes. That’s why we were there.
Q. Otherwise you would not have been there!
A. No, sir.
Q. No further questions.
By Mr. Perry:
223 Q. Nevertheless, the presence of officers helped at
tract the crowd, didn’t they, Chief!
A. The presence of the officers and the group of
students drew the crowd.
Q. May I ask you this, Chief! You, along with other
officers assisted in making these several arrests, didn’t
you!
A. I would say I was with the group of thirty to
forty, something like that.
Q. Wouldn’t you say that all of the students sub-
K4 mitted peacefully to arrest!
A. When I informed them they were under arrest,
they gave no trouble.
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Q. I believe as a matter of fact you, along with other
officers, walked with them around with them to the
Columbia City Jail and the County Jail?
A. I lined them up and put an officer in front and
instructed them to follow him and put one on each side
and on the back. I didn’t walk with them. I rode.
Q. That’s the perogative of the Chief, I believe.
These were just young college and high school stu
dents, were they not, obviously well-dressed, well-be
haved, except for their refusal to disperse when the
officers told them to do so?
A. I think they were all students except a few.
Q. Except a few? Thank you, Chief.
Mr. Coleman: Thank you, sir.
(Witness excused.)
Whereupon, Mr. Brandon called Mr. Dan F. B eck
m an , who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows
Direct Examination
By Mr. Brandon:
Q. Will you give us your full name, Mr. Beckman?
A. Dan F. Beckman.
Q. What is your official position?
A. Assistant Chief, South Carolina Law Enforce
ment Division.
Q. How long have you been with the Law Enforce
ment Division?
A. A little over thirteen and a half years.
Q. Directing your attention to March the 2nd, the
date in question here, did you have occasion to go to
the State House grounds?
A. Yes, I did.
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Q. At what time did you arrive there?
A. Shortly after 12:00.
Q. After 12:00 o’clock?
A. Yes.
Q. What were the conditions existing when you got
there ?
A. There were a large group of college students on
Gervais Street at the entrance to the horseshoe and,
as I got there, they started coming, they were going
through in single file or groups of twos.
Q. Going through the grounds?
A. Going through the grounds.
Q. In what direction?
A. They started down the horseshoe and I observed
them going around to the right of the building and on
around and I was informed that they were being per
mitted to walk through there in a peaceful fashion.
Q. How many do you think would be your estimate
were in the group at that time, Mr. Beckman?
A. It’s hard for me to tell but I would imagine
twelve or fifteen in that first group that went through,
that I had an opportunity to see.
Q. Was there more than one group moving through?
A. At that time, I saw only one group going through.
Q. Could you see any others at any other positions
around the State House grounds ?
A. Later I did observe other groups going around
the State House.
Q. Do you know how many defendants were subse
quently arrested on that occasion?
A. That day?
Q. That day.
A. I believe it was 189 or 190, I ’m not certain.
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Q. How long did this marching continue after you
arrived there?
A. I would imagine between forty-five minutes and
an hour.
Q. Thereafter, to your knowledge, were the groups
advised that they had a certain period of time in which
to disperse or leave the premises?
A. Yes, sir, by Mr. McNayr. I was over facing Main
Street, that would be to the right of the horseshoe.
Q. What was the reaction of the groups of Negro
students at that time, when they were informed of that ?
A. They started singing, hollering and shortly after
that, I imagine, they decided they didn’t want to go
back to where they came from and they started back
through.
Q. What occurred when they started back through?
A. I placed a group under arrest as they started to
continue on.
Q. Other officers arrested others?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you remember any particular song that was
sung by those students?
A. I believe one of them was “ I Shall Not Be
Moved” . I remember their singing the Star Spangled
Banner around on the side of the State House; that
was after they were placed under arrest.
Q. Chief, after you had been there, did or did not
any other people or groups of people arrive?
A. Yes. I saw the groups of people over in front of
the hotel and there was a group right at the entrance
of the horseshoe. From time to time, you had to con
tinue to ask them to move on.
Q. Did they move on when you asked them?
A. Yes.
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Q. How many do yon think subsequently collected
there? Give an estimate?
A. I ’d say around 250 to 300.
Q. After you had arrested this group of students,
did you learn where they had come from or do you, of
your own knowledge, know where they came from?
A. Yes, I know where they came from. You mean
how they originally started from?
Q. Not particularly with reference to the marching
to the grounds, but where were they from? Where were
their homes?
A. Some of them gave their addresses from all over
the State.
Q. Did any of them come from any other schools
other than local schools here in Columbia?
A. Yes, sir. Some came from State A & M, Claflin,
Sterner, Mathis, Benedict and some of them were high
school students. I noticed that on the arrest tickets.
Q. High school students?
A. That’s right.
Q. Any of them you know were from high schools
out of the City of Columbia?
A. No, but I recognized some from Orangeburg, stu
dents from either one of the two schools there.
Q. The State schools over there? Chief, do you know
of any other facts in connection with this occurrence
that 3?ou would like to testify to, that you think is
relevant ?
A. No, sir.
Q. Answer any questions the other attorney has for
you.
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Cross Examination
By Mr. Sampson:
Q. Your name is Mr. Beckman, I believe?
A. That’s right.
Q. You are the Assistant Chief of SLED, is that
right?
A. That’s correct.
Q. I ’d like to ask you a simple question, if I may.
Who was in charge of this arrest?
A. There was several of us that made arrests over
there. I arrested some. Chief Campbell arrested some,
and other officers arrested some.
Q. Which one of you gentlemen made the decision to
arrest these young people?
A. What?
Q. Which one of you gentlemen present made the de
cision to arrest these young defendants?
A. I made my own decision.
Q. I see. It was based on your decision that the other
officers acted?
A. No.
Q. As I understand your testimony, as Assistant
Chief of SLED, you decided that some of them should
he arrested and other officers of the City of Columbia,
being present, independently decided that they should
be arrested, is that right?
A. That was after Mr. McNayr asked them to dis
perse and gave them fifteen minutes to disperse and
all that singing and stomping around and hollering
took place, and he asked them to leave and they didn’t
leave: they continued to go on.
Q. T see. Was it Mr. McNavr’s judgment that caused
von to arrest some of these defendants or your own
judgment?
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A. What I did, I did on my own because I realized
what possibly could take place.
Q. No conflict of authority between SLED and the
City of Columbia as to how you should arrest people
for the breach of peace?
A. No.
Q. How long did you say that you have served as a
law enforcement officer?
A. Thirteen and a half years.
Q. Do you consider yourself an expert law enforce
ment officer?
Mr. Brandon: If Tour Honor please, I think the
prosecution can stipulate that Mr. Beckham is an ex
pert law enforcement officer.
Q. Do you, sir?
A. What is the question?
Q. Do you consider yourself an expert law enforce
ment officer?
A. I consider myself a law enforcement officer based
on experience that I ’ve had.
Q. Had these students been students from the Uni
versity of South Carolina or similar white schools in
the State of South Carolina, would you or would you
not have arrested them based on the same conduct?
Mr. Brandon: Objection, Your Honor. We’re trying
a case of breach of peace against eight individual Ne
gro defendants and there’s no relevancy whatsoever as
to whether or not Chief Beckham would have arrested
a white person or a person of any color. It is presumed,
of course, that a law enforcement officer will do his
duty.
The Court: I am inclined to agree with the objec
tion but as my policy has been, and will continue to
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be, to lean over backwards to see that the defendants
get justice—objection overruled.
Q. Will you proceed to answer the question”?
A. Would you repeat the question, please?
Q. I asked you, if I remember—would the reporter
repeat the question?
(Reporter repeated the question to counsel and the
witness.)
A. Yes, I would have. Under the same set of circum
stances, I would have. You’re exactly correct.
Q. Have you had occasion to arrest any group of
white students under the same or similar circum
stances ?
A. No, I haven’t.
Q. You haven’t had any in your thirteen and a half
years ?
A. No, I haven’t.
Q. I ask you again—I ask you this, sir: do you re
member the recent cancellation of Nixon’s speech in
the City of Columbia?
A. Recent what?
Q. The cancellation of Nixon’s speech, Vice-Presi
dent Nixon’s speech, Vice-President Nixon was run
ning for President and he had a speech cancelled for
the State House grounds here last fall, I believe?
A. I don’t remember the cancellation but I remem
ber when he spoke.
Q. You remember that?
A. I don’t remember when it was cancelled hut I
remember when he spoke.
Q. It was postponed, I believe, from one time to
another, is that right?
A. I don’t recall that. I remember when he spoke
here.
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Q. Do you have any knowledge of whether or not
there was a demonstration on or about the State House
grounds at that time?
Mr. Brandon: If Your Honor please, I object. I ob
ject to counsel referring to any other incident which
could not possibly have been connected with this. I
think that we are going far afield. He can probably dig
up a dozen, if he wants to. It has no bearing on this.
The exclusion of any testimony in regard to that could
not possibly prejudice these defendants. When they
take such action as they choose, they thereby elect to
take the consequences and whether or not somebody
else did it or whether or not somebody else was not
arrested has no bearing on it.
Mr. Sampson: Your Honor, we withdraw the ques
tion.
Q. Mr. Beckham, can you, of your own personal
knowledge, identify any of the particular eight defend
ants on trial here this morning?
A. I didn’t get the chance to see them when they
were up here. I don’t know whether I could or not,
except by their names on the arrest tickets that we
have.
Q. Let me ask you this: Mr. Beckham, since you
can’t identify them, you don’t know whether they did
any of these acts alleged in this warrant or not, do you?
A. They were part of the over-all group that were
up there—yes.
Q. Have you read this warrant?
A. I heard the warrant read to each and every one.
Q. I asked you: have you read this warrant?
A. No, I didn’t read it but I heard it read to each
one of the defendants.
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Q. When you heard it read this morning, that was
the first time yon had heard it read, is that right?
A. No, I had heard that warrant read before.
Q. When, sir?
A. When they were at the County Jail or the City
Jail and in that instance, most of these, with the excep
tion of probably one, were in that group. They were in
the City Jail, with the exception of probably one.
Q. Mr. Beckman, this warrant says here that traffic
was impeded. As to any of these eight defendants, can
you identify any one of them as having impeded the
traffic?
A. With the exception that they were in the over-all
group that was down there.
Q. Then, I understand you to say that these eight,
if they were apart from the group, they wouldn’t be
subject to the breach of the peace? Is that right?
A. I don’t understand that.
Q. If these eight defendants were detached from the
group, they would not be subject to the breach of the
peace, the allegation of this warrant?
A. They were all together down there. They were all
a part of the over-all group.
Q. The truth of the matter is that you cannot iden
tify any of these eight defendants as to whether or not
they were singing or not, can you?
A. No, I can’t.
Q. It is also true that you cannot identify as to
whether or not they were boisterous or not? Is that
right ?
A. They were a part of the over-all group that were
singing and hollering.
Q. You heard these officers testify, didn’t you?
A. Part of them, yes.
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Q. Part of them. From what you heard, state
whether or not you recall, whether or not any of them
said anything about any profanity having been spoken
at all?
A. No, I didn’t hear any profanity at all.
Q. Mr. Beckman, state whether or not you heard
any of these defendants, these eight defendants, make
any threats to any of the officers present?
A. I didn’t hear any of them make any threats to
any one.
Q. I understand that they did not act contemptuous
at all, is that right?
A. With the exception of when they were given the
fifteen minutes to disperse and leave and they started
singing and stomping their feet and shouting.
Q. I see. You don’t recall any of the names of the
songs, do you?
A. One was “ I Shall Not Be Moved” . I remember
that and the Star Spangled Banner.
Q. Thank you.
(Witness excused.)
Whereupon, Mr. Coleman called Mr. A. C. S horter,
Jr., who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:
Direct Examination
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Mr. Shorter, do you have a physical connection
with any State Agency?
A. Yes, sir, I am Lieutenant with South Carolina
Law Enforcement Division.
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A. C. S horter, Jr.
Q. Did you have occasion on March the 2nd, last, to
be in the vicinity of the State House, in the City of
Columbia, on official business?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Would you relate in your own words anything
which might have happened, that you saw or heard or
anything of your own knowledge that occurred there
that day?
A. I went to the State House, it was a little before
12:00, and a group of young colored people came up.
I don’t know whether they were students or not. Some
of them I know to he students. They came up on Ger-
vais Street from towards Assembly. I was standing by
Mr. Harry Walker, Legal Assistant to Governor Hol-
lings, and—
Q. Just at this point, Mr. Shorter—were you work
ing under the direction of Mr. Walker?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Go ahead.
A. Mr. Walker told—
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, we have the same objection
to that.
The Court: Objection sustained. No hearsay.
A. It was in the presence of these defendants and
the co-defendants, Mr. Walker made certain state
ments. After these statements were made, the students
proceeded through the State House grounds, going
around the State House to the Assembly Street side,
turning left and starting towards Sumter Street.
Q. You are speaking of this group, this group of
Negro students, approximately 200 in number, which
was previously described here today?
A. This was the first part of approximately 200
group. This group consisted of approximately twenty-
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five or thirty that was headed by another person, who
is not a defendant here today. On the back side of the
Capitol, I believe that’s Pendleton Street, is the State
Highway Department, the Wade Hampton Office Build
ing and the Calhoun Office Building, all State office
buildings, in addition to the State House being a State
office building. The people apparently were disturbed
and generally disrupted in these buildings; they were
peering from windows. They were singing, this group,
in columns of twos, and each sidewalk that crisscrosses
through the State House grounds, they wanted to go
through. Those sidewalks are very narrow and would
not allow over two people, walking side by side, to get
through. This group of approximately twenty-five or
thirty wanted to walk through there in columns of
twos. I asked them to move on. They were very bel
ligerent about it but did proceed to move on down the
main sidewalk to the Sumter Street sidewalk and down
to the Gervais Street sidewalk and back to the horse
shoe. They were singing, chanting, shouting, all of this
time, and when they got there, they started back to
the State House grounds again in the same boisterous
manner and I arrested the first group. Contrary to
what was said, all of them were not marched to the
Jail, some of them were carried in automobiles. This
particular group was carried in an automobile.
Q. Mr. Shorter, were you in the vicinity of the horse
shoe at all?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What time did you first make your appearance
there ?
A. I was there when this group arrived.
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Q. With relations to the area of the horseshoe, what
was the appearance of the horseshoe as to persons
within that horseshoe?
A. When this group first arrived, there weren’t too
many bystanders, only the students stretched out
down Gervais Street. However, the longer that they
stayed and paraded around, the larger the number of
bystanders got, until approximately two, or three or
four hundred—I don’t know how many bystanders
were there.
Q. How long after you first arrived did these stu
dents march unmolested?
A. Forty-five minutes to an hour, I would say. I
didn’t time them.
Q. After this forty-five minutes to an hour period,
what was the appearance of any person who might
have been in the horseshoe then? What were the num
ber of people out there, so far as you were concerned?
A. In addition to the students and the police officers,
I ’d sav there were two, three or four hundred by
standers that would come by and we would immediately
tell them to move on, which most of them did.
Q. Was the street around the horseshoe, the side
walks around the horseshoe, were they free for traffic?
A. The horseshoe, of course, was blocked. At times,
when the students would come through, I personally
told them to not block the street and the sidewalks and
the horseshoe.
Q. Did you give any personal instructions to any
of the students to disperse?
A. I did not give any personal instructions to them
to disperse.
Q. Were any official orders to disperse given to
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A. Not in my presence, no, sir.
The Court: We will now recess for lunch. Return
here at 2 :30 o’clock.
(Afternoon session.)
(Court reconvened at 2:30 o’clock.)
The Court: Does the State wish to put up any more
witnesses'?
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, I believe the
last witness put up by the State before lunch has not
been cross examined by the defense.
The Court: That’s correct.
Mr. Shorter resumed the witness stand and testi
fied further as follows:
Cross Examination
By Mr. Jenkins:
Q. Mr. Shorter, I ’m not quite certain I recall the
detail of your testimony this morning, however, I do
believe that you testified that you arrested one group,
didn’t you?
A. I arrested several. I said I arrested the first
group.
Q. You arrested the first group that was arrested
on that day?
A. That’s correct.
Q. Now, in what area of the State House grounds
were you when the first group was arrested?
A. On the front of the State House, in front of the
main steps of the State House.
Q. Now, were the other groups in this vicinity when
you arrested this group?
A. This particular group—I do not remember.
Q. You testified this morning, I believe on direct
examination, that the students that you arrested were
singing ?
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A. That’s correct.
Q. Will you state to the Court whether they were
singing prior to the arrest or whether they began sing
ing after your arrest?
A. Prior to and afterwards.
Q. How long prior to the arrest, do you recall, did
the singing begin?
A. I don’t remember exactly. I ’d say it had been
quite some time.
Q. Was that the first group, all of the group that
you arrested?
A. All of them that I arrested.
Q. So, it is your testimony then that these persons
you arrested that day were in the front of the State
House grounds, singing, prior to the arrest of any of
them?
A. They were on the State House grounds in front
of the main steps to the State House.
Q. Is it your testimony that there was general sing
ing among the whole group prior to the arrest of any
of them?
A. That is correct.
Q. I believe you testified—correction, please. Mr.
Shorter, I ’m certain you heard the testimony of Chief
Campbell and other witnesses this morning.
A. I heard part of the testimony.
Q. Did you hear testimony from these witnesses that
the persons arrested on March the 2nd had been given,
in effect, fifteen minutes in which to get off of the State
House grounds?
A. You’ll have to ask them what they said.
Q. I ’m asking you whether you heard some testi
mony?
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^ A. I heard part of it. I don’t recall that particular
part.
Q. Did you hear them testify as to that?
A. I said I did not remember that particular part
of it.
Q. Do you know whether or not persons arrested on
March the 2nd had been, in effect, given fifteen minutes
to get off of the State House grounds?
A. Do you want hearsay testimony?
Q. I ’m asking you whether you know of any such
^ limit of time?
A. You want me to tell you what I ’ve been told?
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, we request that
the witness be instructed to answer the question.
The Court: Answer the question.
A. Yes.
Q. The testimony of the witness for the State this
morning, from each of them, with the exception of
yourself, was to the effect that there was no singing
prior to these persons, who are now defendants, being
287 given fifteen minutes, or something to that effect, to
leave the State House grounds. Now, would you testify
to that singing?
A. I do not remember such testimony.
Q. Do you recall whether or not there was any sing
ing on the part of the groups which you arrested, prior
to their being advised that they had fifteen minutes in
which to get off the grounds?
A. As I have testified to previously, I do not know
the exact time that they were given, the time limit to
2g8 leave, therefore, I cannot say whether or not they were
singing prior to their instructions to leave or not.
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A. C. Shorter, Jr.
Q. The eight defendants, who are on trial today,
can you identify them or either of them as being in
uither groups that you arrested?
A. I can identify those as part of the over-all group
that was arrested at that particular time.
Q. Can you identify any of the eight on trial today
as participating in any of these specific acts alleged
in the warrant signed by Chief Campbell?
A. I can identify them as part of the groups, all of
which were singing and causing general disturbance at
the State House.
Q. What do you base your identification of these
■eight defendants on or either of them?
A. All of them were arrested and booked. They have
answered to their names as called and, if they are tell
ing the truth, they are eight of the persons that were
arrested that day.
Q. Other than that, you were not able to identify
either of these defendants?
A. I doubt seriously that I could pick them out of
a crowd of three or four thousand people.
Q. Could you pick them out of a crowd of several
hundred that were on the grounds?
A. I doubt seriously—no.
Q. Mr. Shorter, did you have any conversation with
any of the persons who were arrested on March the
2nd?
A. None other than to tell them that they were ar
rested, to tell them that they could not go double file,
in groups of thirties, on the narrow sidewalks that
cross the State House, that it would block traffic and it
would block the sidewalks, and we could not have that.
Q. Did you discuss with them their purpose for be
ing on the grounds that day?
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A. I was present when the defendants had that dis
cussed with them. The defendants’ avowed purpose
there was to demonstrate, to walk around and around
and around the State House.
Q. Now, when you said the defendants, did you mean
these eight?
A. These eight plus their co-defendants.
Q. Are you saying to the Court that you heard more
than 180 persons say to you that their purpose for
being on the grounds was as you have stated?
A. Each group had a leader. The leader was talked
to and the rest concurred by going along with their
leader.
Q. Did you directly talk with either of these groups?
A. I did not directly discuss their purpose for being
there.
Q. I ’m sorry—
A. I did not directly discuss their purpose for being
there.
Q. Now, Mr. Shorter, I want to ask you another
question. The groups that you arrested, state to the
Court how many times those persons marched around
the State House?
A. I don’t remember. Several, probably. I didn’t
count them.
Q. It’s a fact that you didn’t know whether they
marched around one time or two times?
A. They had been there ample time to march around
a dozen times.
Q. Your answer is not in response to the question.
A. Would you repeat your question?
Mr. Jenkins: We move, Your Honor, that the wit
ness’ answer to the previous question be stricken on
the grounds that it was not responsive to the question.
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The Court: On the basis of what?
Mr. Jenkins: The answer was not responsive to the
question that I directed to the witness.
Mr. Coleman: Strike it. It makes no difference.
The Court: Go ahead and strike it.
Q. The question was that you do not know, as a
matter of fact, whether these persons that you arrested
had been around the State House one time, two times
or any number of times?
A. I know, to my own knowledge, that they went
around at least once; two, three, four or five, I do not
know.
Q. No further questions.
(Witness excused.)
Mr. Coleman: The State has no further witnesses,
Your Honor.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, at this time,
the defendants move for a dismissal of the cases
against them upon the ground that the evidence of the
State has completely failed to establish the c o r p u s
d e l i c t i and, since it has not been shown that any crime
has been committed, the defendants are entitled to
have the cases pending against them dismissed.
With Your Honor’s permission, I will now make a
second motion and I will make one argument as to both
motions. At this time, the defendants move for a dis
missal of the cases pending against them on the ground
that the State has completely failed to prove by com
petent evidence a p r i m a f a c i e case. Now, I shall be glad
to make a short argument, off the record, unless the
State has some preference in that regard.
(Arguments followed.)
The Court: The motion is denied.
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Mr. Perry: One further motion. At this time the de
fendants move that the cases against them be dismissed
on the ground that the evidence shows that by arrest
ing and prosecuting the defendants, the officers of the
State of South Carolina and of the City of Columbia
were using the police power of the State of South Caro
lina for the purpose of depriving these defendants of
rights secured to them under the First and Fourteenth
Amendments of the United States Constitution. I par
ticularly make reference to freedom of assembly and
freedom of speech. I shall make no argument on that.
The Court: The motion is denied.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, the defendants
would like not to offer any evidence. We will have no
testimony. At this time, I would like to renew all mo
tions for dismissal, which were made at the conclusion
of the State’s case and I would ask that it be included
in the record verbatim, as if I were repeating them
verbatim at this time.
The Court: The motions are denied.
Mr. Perry: Nothing further from the defendants.
Mr. Coleman: Nothing further from the State.
The Court: The Court before reaching the verdict
will take a ten minute recess.
(Court recessed.)
(Court reconvened.)
The Court: I want to caution everyone within the
courtroom here that when we began this morning
I made the first rule that there would be no pictures
taken. I have information that there is a camera in
here now and I want to caution you that you will be
held in contempt of court if any pictures are taken.
Will the defendants please come before the Bench?
(Defendants arraigned before the Court.)
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The Court: Would the attorneys like to say anything
before the Court renders its verdict?
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, nothing except the motions
for dismissal which we have made. I understand that
Your Honor has denied them. However, you have not
yet made your finding as to whether or not you find
them guilty or not guilty. We will reserve anything
we have to say until after you have made your finding.
The Court: It’s a very hard problem that we are faced
with, all of us, white people and Negroes also. When I
talk to these eight and look upon the faces of the young,
actually they are children, some of them, and perhaps
counsel doesn’t realize—I imagine you do—that I ’ve
been in office only thirty days. Prior to that, I worked
with young people, devoted my life to helping young
people, as the Juvenile Officer of this County. I have
about as many Negro friends as I have white friends
and I ’m proud of it, but there is one thing that dis
turbs me more than anything else, that this fight over
segregation or integration has nothing to do with chil
dren because we are the ones, me included, we adults
are the ones that have caused this problem. I don’t
think it’s up to me to tell my little baby girl, five years
old, to fight my battles for me. I don’t think it’s up
to the people; I don’t think the decent people expect it,
expect children to fight our battles. My battle, your
battle, our adults’ battles, whites, Negroes, all of us.
It’s been many a day that I have taken children home
with me, foundling children. I took off my own shoes
in my own home and gave them to a boy to go to school.
To me the greatest asset that we have or shall ever
have is our youth.
(The Court then questioned each defendant individ
ually as to his age, home address, school, etc.)
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To each of you, James Edwards, Jr., Alvester Pate,
jo9 Jr., Pinckney Mosley, Melvin Brown, Jr., Harold Eu
gene Nimmons, Willie Boykin Jones, William Perkins,
Bill Alvin Sullivan, it is the finding of the Court that
you are guilty without question. No defense was put
up in your behalf and the sentence of the Court is that
each of you pay a fine of $100.00 or 30 days in the
County Jail. However, I ’m going to do something here,
which the law forbids me to do, but I make it public
to each one of you minors—-how many of you are 21?
(Only one, James Edwards, Jr., raised his hand.) To
each one of you minors, I ’m going to suspend half of
810 that on the payment of a fine of $50.00.
There is something else that has come to my atten
tion during the hearing of this testimony today. Get
ting back to we adults using children and minors to
fight our battles, adults’ battles, Negroes and whites,
those who would use, misdirect, lead a child into a
dangerous situation and yes, it’s dangerous. What hap
pened yesterday? A Negro was stabbed right up here,
one block from where we are, by a man, a cowardly
man that he was. It is a dangerous situation. I would
811 pass out if I knew my child was put in a position that
some violence could happen. We have fanatics in both
races, extremists.
From the evidence that has come out to me today,
and the testimony, there are indications from that
sworn testimony of violations of another State law,
contributing to the delinquency of a minor. It is Sec
tion 16-556.1, Code of Laws of South Carolina, 1960
Cumulative Supplement. “ It shall be unlawful for any
person over twenty-one years of age to knowingly and
wilfully encourage, aid, cause or to do any act which
would cause or influence a minor to (1) violate any
law or municipal ordinance; become and be an incor-
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rigible, ungovernable or habitual disobedient beyond
the control of his parents, guardian or custodian or
lawful authority; become a habitual truant without
just cause and without the consent of his parents,
guardian or other custodian; repeatedly desert his
home or place; engage in any occupation which is in
violation of the law; associate with immoral or vicious
persons; frequent any place, the existence of which
is in violation of the law; habitual use of obscene or
profane language; beg or solicit alms in any public
place under any pretense or so deport himself as to
wilfully injure and endanger his morals or health or
health of others. Any person violating the provisions 314
of Section 16-556.1 (which I have just read) shall upon
conviction be fined not more than $3,000.00 or impris
oned for not more than three years, or both, at the dis
cretion of the Court.”
Chief Beckham, of the Law Enforcement Division,
hold that man under immediate arrest until I can issue
a warrant charging him with contributing to the de
linquency of a minor, which I will issue. Also, I want
and request that the State Law Enforcement Division,
the City Police and the Sheriff Department start an m
immediate investigation into this whole thing, as to
who, what, when, where, why and how the adults have
violated, in my opinion, this section of the law.
I do hope that each one of you, with all my heart,
will not be placed in this position again or place others
in this position.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, we have several
more motions we would like to make.
The Court: The defendants may now take their seats.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, the defendants
now, at this time, respectfully move for arrest of judg
ment or in the alternative, for a new trial upon all
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grounds previously noted in the several motions for
sM dismissal. We urge that they be repeated in the record
as fully as if I were repeating them verbatim here.
Mr. Coleman: The State opposes on the grounds
set out in the previous argument.
Mr. Perry: We renew the three motions.
The Court: All motions denied.
Mr. Perry: The defendants, at this time, give verbal
notice of appeal. We will tender written notice. We
ask that the Court at this time set an appeal bond for
deliverance.
sis The Court: The appeal bond for each one of the
defendants will be $100.00.
Mr. Perry: All right, sir. With reference to defend
ant, James Edwards, Jr., at this time, we ask that
bond be set for this young man.
The Court: In this instance, it will be $5,000.00.
Mr. Perry: Will you continue the defendants under
the appearance bonds, which have previously been
posted until we can handle the administrative prob
lems necessary to the substitution of the appeal bonds?
819 The Court: When would that be? We will allow until
Thursday morning at 10:00 o’clock, with the exception
of the person who is 21 years old, with that one excep
tion.
(Court adjourned.)
I hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and cor
rect transcript of the notes of testimony taken by me
at the hearing of the above cause.
E leanor S. Mackey.
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TRANSCRIPT OF TESTIMONY
Before Honorable Prank Powell, Magistrate, on
Monday, March 13, 1961, Richland County Court
House, Columbia, South Carolina.
Appearances:
For the State: J. C. Coleman, Esq.
For the Defendants: Lincoln C. Jenkins, Jr., Esq.,
Matthew J. Perry, Esq.
The Court: I would like to announce the rules of
the Court. There will be no photographs or pictures of
any type taken within this courtroom during this hear
ing. Every one who wishes to attend may attend as
long as there is a seat available. There will be no stand
ing up around the walls, cluttering up or any outbursts
whatsoever.
The State of South Carolina’s court has before it a
warrant charging the following persons for breach of
the peace: George Cleveland Foster, James Jerome
Kirton, Isaac Washington, Roland Johnnie Rhames,
Joseph B. Bailey, Isaac Jerome Campbell, Davie Green,
Charles Fulton Barr.
Are these persons present?
Mr. Jenkins: They are present, Your Honor.
The Court: Are they represented by an attorney?
Mr. Perry: They are, sir.
The Court: Will those persons, please, approach the
Bench?
(Defendants arraigned before the Court.)
The Court: Are you the persons just named charged
with breach of the peace in Columbia, South Carolina,
Richland County, on March 2nd, 1961?
Defendants: We are (in unison), yes, sir.
The Court: Take your seats.
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Mr. Jenkins: At this time, if Your Honor pleases,
we would like to state that these defendants plead Not
Guilty.
The Court: Is the defense ready for trial?
Mr. Perry: We are ready.
The Court: Is the State ready for trial?
Mr. Coleman: The State is ready.
Whereupon, Mr. Coleman called Mr. Irving G. Mc
Nayr who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:
D i r e c t E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Mr. McNayr, I believe you are the City Manager
of the City of Columbia, South Carolina?
A. I am, yes, sir.
Q. As such City Manager, state whether or not the
law enforcement agency of the City of Columbia, the
Columbia City Police Department, is under your super
vision?
A. The Police Department of the City of Columbia
is under my direct supervision.
Q. State whether or not anything occurred of an
unusual nature on last March 2nd, which required you
to he in the vicinity of the State House grounds?
A. On March the 2nd, at about 10:45, I received a
telephone call from Chief Campbell informing me that
he had been informed that a meeting was being held at
the Zion Baptist Church on Washington Street, and
that, following that meeting, there would be a march
and demonstration at the State House grounds.
Q. As a result of receiving that information, what
did you do?
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A. I then asked Chief Campbell to pick me up at
City Hall, to take me to the Zion Baptist Church, which
he did.
Q. Where did you go from Zion Baptist Church?
A. From Zion Baptist Church, after we saw the
Negro students beginning to leave the church and
forming into groups of approximately—oh, fifteen to
twenty, Chief Campbell then drove me to what is known
commonly as the horseshoe at the State House grounds.
Q. I see. That is the area immediately in front of
the front steps of the State House, where the monu
ment stands?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What time did you get there?
A. We got there at approximately 11:45—11:30 or
11:45.
Q. What did you observe at that place?
A. After about a five or ten minute wait, during
which we observed that there were police officers, those
from the City of Columbia, from the State of South
Carolina Law Enforcement Division and some State
Highway Patrol in that vicinity. We then observed
the students, the Negro students marching up in
groups, as I have described, up Gervais Street, moving
East on Gervais Street toward the Capitol.
Q. Can you estimate the approximate number of the
Negro students you observed?
A. I estimated at that time something around 200
Negro students.
Q. Did it appear to you that they were acting in a
group or in concert, from the physical appearance of
the students?
A. There was no question in my mind but that they
were acting as a group and in concert.
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Q. Did you have any conversation with the students
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at that time?
A. Not at that time, no, sir.
Q. What did you do, with regard to the group, at
that particular time?
A. I did nothing in regard to the group other than
chat and stand around with Chief Campbell or other
police officers and with Mr. Harry Walker of the Gov
ernor’s Office.
Q. You were acting as an observer at that time?
A. Yes, I was.
384 Q. This was what time, again, please?
A. This was approximately 11:45.
Q. What course of action, if any, did the Negro stu
dents, to which you have just referred, take then?
A. The Negro group then formed along the sidewalk
between Assembly Street and the horseshoe, on the
sidewalk adjacent to the Capitol, and each group was
met by Mr. Walker and received instructions from him.
Q. Did you hear the instructions given to the stu
dents?
336 A. Yes, I did.
Q. What was the nature of the instructions?
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, we respectfully
interpose an objection at this time to any statement
made by other persons not a defendant on trial in this
case on the ground that it would be violative of the
hearsay rule.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, I have a par
ticular purpose for getting this testimony in hut this
same objection was made last time when we tried a
group under similar circumstances here and I would
like to clarify one matter, so far as I am concerned
and that is about the hearsay rule. If this question is
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answered by Mr. McNayr, he is not giving information
that was passed to him by a third party. The question
was: were any instructions given these students, which
you heard yourself. Should he testify, should he an
swer that question, he is not testifying to something
which was related to him by a third person. He is tes
tifying to something which he actually was there and
heard so, unless there is some other objection, I think
the question and answer are both permissible so far
as the hearsay rule goes.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, as I understand
the hearsay rule, I think the matters, about which Mr.
Coleman has just addressed himself, are precisely the
matters covered by the hearsay rule. He seeks from
this witness testimony which would, of necessity, re
peat words which were spoken by Mr. Walker to the
individuals who formed the procession about which Mr.
McNayr is testifying. Obviously, the best source of
information, which would be available in that partic
ular regard, would be the person who gave the instruc
tions. To permit this witness to testify concerning ver
bal instructions which were given by someone else
would deprive these defendants of the right to cross
examine that person concerning the content and nature
of the instructions and that is precisely what the rule
against hearsay evidence is predicated upon. We, there
fore, urge that the testimony, which is now sought to
be elicited, would he violative of the hearsay rule.
Mr. Coleman: I have nothing further.
The Court: Objection sustained.
Q. Mr. McNayr, what course of action did the Negro
students take after that, after you met them?
A. After the incident which I described, the Negro
students were then allowed to walk through the State
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House grounds in small groups. They proceeded to do
that, many of them circling the Capitol Building, some
few moving down the sidewalk towards Assembly
Street. The great majority, however, circled through
the State House grounds and then forming in a pro
cessional line on the sidewalk—I have my directions
wrong this morning—I think West of the horseshoe
area, along Gervais Street.
Q. How long approximately, if you can testify of
your own knowledge, did this activity take?
A. Approximately three quarters of an hour.
Q. During that three quarters of an hour, did you
observe whether or not there was any interference with
the students during that three quarters of an hour?
A. I observed no interference. I believe many of the
groups were accompanied by police officers, either
from the City of Columbia or from SLED.
Q. Then, so far as you know, they were allowed to
proceed for three quarters of an hour without any in
terference whatsoever?
A. Yes, they were.
Q. All right. After this period of time, what oc
curred?
A. During the period which they were walking
through the State House Grounds, a crowd of people
were gathering, both within the horseshoe area on the
Capitol side of the street and also on the opposite side
of Gervais, particularly at the entrance to Main Street,
the sidewalk area adjacent to the Wade Hampton Ho
tel and I believe it’s the Palmetto State Life Insurance
Building on the other corner. I have estimated the
crowd at somewhere around 300 or 350 people, other
than the students. This was during the lunch period
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and more and more people were proceeding from other
State office buildings, I assumed, through the State
House Grounds, also, those persons coming down to
lunch in the downtown area would be gathering in the
crowd.
Q. I believe, Mr. McNayr, there are sidewalks on
each side of the horseshoe?
A. Yes, there are.
Q. I believe, also, there are lanes for vehicular traf
fic on each side of the monument on each side of the
horseshoe area?
A. Yes, sir, there are.
Q. These people, whom you have testified had just
begun to gather within this area, where were they with
relation to the sidewalks and the streets for vehicular
traffic?
,A. Many of them were gathering on the sidewalks,
adjacent to these sidewalks, and into the what would
normally be the traveled way for cars parking within
that horseshoe area.
Q. So far as it appeared to you that it might or
might mot have any affect on the pedestrian and vehic
ular traffic along those sidewalks and along those ve
hicular lanes, this crowd or number of people, who had
gathered, other than the students, did they have any
affect on that pedestrian and vehicular traffic, so far as
you could tell?
A. Yes, they did. Chief Campbell had to place an
officer in the intersection of Gervais and Main to direct
traffic because a group like that normally would slow
down traffic anyway, going on Gervais and Main, and,
in addition to that, we had on numerous occasions to
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order the people to move out of the pedestrian walk
ways so that groups could get through.
Q. Did this crowd gather all at once or did it in
crease over the period of three quarters of an hour?
A. It increased all during that period.
Q. Did it appear to you that it was increasing and
would increase further at that time?
A. Yes, it did.
Q. All right. What action then, if any, did you take?
A. When the groups, after they came through the
State Capitol Grounds and started to form on the side
walk West of the horseshoe area, I then got in touch
with the recognized leader of the group, David Carter,
who was in that immediate vicinity and told him that
because of the gathering of the crowd, because of the
fact that the sidewalks were being blocked, because
there was always in a group like that a chance for
violence and rioting to occur, that I felt that the stu
dents must be dispersed and asked him to request each
group to disperse and to go in orderly fashion back to
their cars or their campus in small groups.
Q. Do you know of your own personal knowledge
whether or not David Carter did relay this information
to the various groups ?
A. Yes, I do. I was in his presence, oh, for fifteen
minutes. I failed to add in my previous testimony that
I told him that I felt that they should have fifteen min
utes in which to disperse.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, I now offer a
belated objection to any conversation with a person not
on trial in this proceeding. Now, I do recognize that the
witness has identified the person, whom he had this
conversation with, as the recognized leader of the
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group. We hasten to add that this person is not today
on trial and any conversation, which Mr. McNayr had
with him, is irrelevant to the proceeding against the
persons on trial this morning. We, therefore, inter
pose an objection on the grounds of irrelevancy of that
testimony and we move that all testimony with refer
ence to the subject be stricken from the record.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, we are dealing
here with a large crowd of people. It is manifestly im
possible for Mr. McNayr or any one else, even if he
had done so, to remember giving any instructions to
the particular defendants on trial here today. He has
testified that the entire body of students, consisting of
200, maybe a little more or a little less, were acting in
concert as a group. These defendants were amongst
that group. He has testified that this David Carter ap
peared to him and Avas the recognized leader of that
group. Any instructions, any information which was
conveyed by Mr. McNayr could not possibly have been
conveyed individually to each of the 200 people there.
As far as it being relevant, I should think it’s probably
the most relevant point in the case. The students were
allowed to demonstrate, to march for three quarters of
an hour. Mr. McNayr has testified that they were al
lowed to do so entirely unmolested. Nobody bothered
them. Crowds began to gather, apparently attracted by
these demonstrations, streets were blocked, sidewalks
were blocked, it was up to him to give some official in
structions to this group. He couldn’t go to each one. He
gave it to the recognized leader. The leader gave it to
the students in his presence. He is not testifying to
what anybody told him. We can’t show that and it’s
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impossible to ever deal in that manner with any crowd
of people.
Mr. Perry: By way of reply, may I say, first of all,
that there is no evidence that the eight dedendants on
trial today were involved in the procession of indi
viduals on March the 2nd, unless Your Honor con
siders the fact that they later made bond, while under
arrest at the City or County jail, as evidence of their
complicity in the activities of the day previous. I re
spectfully urge that the fact that they later made bond
does not show that they engaged in any procession.
That being the case, the statement made by Mr. Cole
man in that particular respect that the proferred testi
mony of Mr. McNayr at this time would tend to show
that these defendants received a communication is not
borne out by the logical sequence of the events as the
evidence now relates them to be. We respectfully show
that the testimony now sought to be elicited is irrele
vant because it constitutes a conversation which oc
curred between Mr. McNayr and the individual whom
he identified as the recognized leader of the group. It is
not shown that the conversation was with either of
these defendants and we, therefore, respectfully sub
mit that his testimony is irrelevant to the issues of
this case today.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, Mr. McNayr
has not testified that he and David Carter or anyone
else gave instructions to these individual defendants.
The activities of this entire group is the very body of
the crime with which they are charged and he is tes
tifying as to official instructions which were given to
the large group, not the individual defendants.
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The Court: Objection overruled. The witness will
answer the question.
Q. Mr. McNayr, will you please proceed with your
testimony. You had just testified that you had given
certain instructions to David Carter and David Carter
had relayed that information to various groups of stu
dents in your presence?
A. Yes. I stayed with David. Each group was
brought up and he talked to them. He did not give the
instructions as I gave them to him. I gave them to him
in much the same manner as I am speaking at the
moment—
Mr. Perry: Now, may it please the Court, we respect
fully object to testimony concerning what David Car
ter may or may not have stated to other persons. We
want it included in the objection on the ground that
that is in violation of the rule of hearsay. Now, my
previous objection was different. My previous objec
tion was to any conversation between Mr. McNayr and
David Carter. Of course, Your Honor has overruled
that objection but now the objection is to the instruc
tions, which David Carter may or may not have com
municated to the other individuals. Now, Your Honor
has previously ruled out testimony concerning what
another State official communicated to the defendants
by way of instructions. I respectfully submit that any
instructions which David Carter may have communi
cated wmuld be subject to the same objection, which we
interposed previously, on the ground that it violates
the hearsay rule.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, since the ques
tion is not very important, I ’ll withdraw it.
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Q. Mr. McNayr, after your conversation with David
Carter, would you describe the activities of the Negro
students, after you approached them yourself, and
with David Carter?
Q. There developed a singing, chanting, shouting
response, such as one would get in a religious atmos
phere ; loud singing, stomping and so on, on the part of
each group of students and the students as a whole.
Q. Was this audible for some distance?
A. I would guess it was audible all throughout the
area.
Mr. Perry: I object to that testimony. It is specula
tive.
A. It is.
Q. Did the students disperse after the chanting,
which you have just described?
A. No, they did not.
Q. What was the size of the croivd of people in the
horseshoe area, Mr. McNayr, at that time, with re
lation to what it had been when you first got there?
A. It had grown from a relatively small group of
probably 30 to 35 people to something in the neighbor
hood of a 100 to 150 within the horseshoe area.
Q. What affect, if any, did this gathering of persons
in or about the horseshoe appear to you to have on
traffic, say on Gervais Street?
A. It was slowing up traffic on Gervais Street. Any
loud singing, stomping of the feet and so on, such as
occurred, would tend, of course, to slow down any
traffic.
Mr. Perry: Objection. That testimony is speculative.
A. This is not speculative. This I observed.
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Mr. Coleman: The witness has testified as to what
he saw and it is not speculative.
Mr. Perry: It is not what he is testifying to in re
sponse to Mr. Coleman’s question as to what effect it
had on traffic. If the witness is being responsive to Mr.
Coleman, the witness is testifying as to the effect that
the singing had on moving traffic.
Mr. Coleman: The question didn’t have anything to
do with the singing. The question was what effect did
the gathering of persons in the horseshoe appear to
have on traffic.
Mr. Perry: There again, Tour Honor, I ’m sure, of
course, you are familiar with the area described as
the horseshoe in front of the State House Grounds, and
the testimony, as I understand it, is that the groups of
persons were assembled, at least in part, within the
horseshoe area. There is no testimony that these per
sons extended out into the intersection of Main and
Gervais, therefore, testimony on the part of Mr. Mc
Nayr as to the effect of an assemblage within the
horseshoe area upon traffic on Gervais Street would of
necessity be speculative. It involved the giving of a
conclusion on the part of this witness, which I feel the
Court, in the interest of the expeditious and impartial
administration of justice, should not permit. I think
the answers, which the witness is giving to prove the
State’s position, they have sought to prove it, except
that we deny that it constitutes a breach of peace.
They can prove their case without going into specula
tive testimony or testimony which tends to represent
the conclusions of the witness.
Q. Mr. McNayr, have you observed from time to
time—
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Mr. Coleman: Pardon me, did your objection relate
to the whole testimony?
The Court: As the Court understands your objec
tion, it is just to the effect what Mr. McNayr saw on
the traffic that was moving on Gervais Street.
Mr. Perry: As I understood the question, that was
my objection.
The Court: Objection sustained.
Q. Mr. McNayr, are you familiar with and have you
observed from time to time the normal flow of traffic
on Gervais Street?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. Did you observe the traffic on Gervais Street at
the time you just spoke of when the crowd of persons
had gathered in the horseshoe?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Was it normal?
A. The traffic was very considerably slowed down.
There was a large volume of traffic but it had slowed
down considerably.
Q. State whether or not there was any congestion of
traffic?
A. Yes, there was congestion.
Q. All right, sir. What official action, if any, did you
take at that time, Mr. McNayr, after the failure of
the students, as you have testified to, to disperse?
A. I then informed Chief Campbell of my conversa
tions with David Carter and, after waiting the fifteen
minute period, he proceeded to arrest all of the Negro
students in the State House area, both on the sidewalk
and those still within the State House Grounds. He
was aided during this period, of course, by the South
Carolina Law Enforcement Division officers.
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The Court: Court will take a 15 minute recess.
(Court reconvened.)
C r o s s E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Perry:
Q. Mr. McNayr, I believe that you have stated that
you are in charge of the police activities in the City of
Columbia by virtue of your being City Manager?
A. Yes, I am.
Q. On March the 2nd, how many officers of the Co
lumbia City Police Department did you have assembled
in the area around the State House Grounds ?
A. I think you would have to re-word your question:
how many officers were assembled there. I would guess
somewhere between twenty and thirty.
Q. I see. May I ask, sir, were they all congregated in
the area which you describe as the horseshoe or were
they all scattered around on other parts of the State
House property?
A. They were not immediately assembled there in
the horseshoe but they were largely within the horse
shoe area, yes.
Q. I see. Sir, as you observed the various groups of
Negro students approaching the State House Grounds,
I believe you have stated that they approached in
groups, which were separated from each other but ob
viously moving in concert?
A. Yes.
Q. Will you describe the size of the various groups?
A. I would say they varied in size, anywhere from
fifteen to thirty.
Q. I see. Now, those various groups, which you have
described, were walking, I believe you said, upon the
sidewalks, first of all, adjacent to the State House
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property and later they entered the State House
Grounds, after having stopped and received some in
structions from a State Government official?
A. That’s correct.
Q. In what manner were they proceeding? Were
they, for instance, walking single file or walking two
abreast or would you describe the manner in which
they were proceeding?
A. When they moved to the State House originally
or after receiving instructions?
Q. May I ask you, sir, to touch upon how they were
walking originally and how they later walked?
A. Originally, they were walking in pairs, two
abreast. If I recall correctly, they continued to walk
through the Grounds two abreast.
Q. I see. Now, as I understand, the sidewalks that
are placed on the State House Grounds are wide
enough for more than two persons to walk upon them,
are they not?
,A. Yes, they are.
Q. Was it possible for any persons, other than the
students engaged in this procession, to walk upon the
sidewalks at the same time?
A. It was possible but, I would say, difficult be
cause I am not thoroughly familiar with all of the
walks of the State House Grounds and they may well
have broken into single file in order to let others pass.
Q. Now, sir, as you observed the procession of stu
dents walking, as you say, in separate groups, in col
umns of twos, to paraphrase what you have said, will
you describe how far apart each two students were
walking behind each other? My question really is, were
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they walking as far apart as arm’s length or were
they walking farther apart than that?
A. I would say at arm length or closer.
Q. Arm’s length or closer. Now, sir, you were pres
ent and at least in command of the Columbia City
Police on this occasion, did you receive any complaint
from any person who complained of not having been
able to use the sidewalks or to pass?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. I see. Who was that person?
A. There were a number of persons, I can’t identify
them as such, they were mostly white ladies coming
through the State House Grounds from apparently a
State Office Building on the other side.
Q. Now, may I ask you to comment, sir, upon the
nature of the complaints that were made to you?
A. The nature generally was very general, to the
effect that they didn’t think this sort of thing should
be allowed, that they were having difficulty passing
through the State House Grounds going to their ac
customed eating places.
Q. I see, but they obviously were successful in pass
ing through the State House Grounds. They were not
prohibited by any conduct.
A. They were successful in getting as far as me. I
don’t know what happened to them.
Q. Were the persons engaged in the procession well
dressed and generally well demeaned?
A. Yes, they were.
Q. Except for the fact that at one point, about which
you have already testified, concerning the fact that
they started singing, except for the singing itself, was
their conduct generally well behaved?
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A. I also testified that they were not only singing
but stamping their feet, shouting, responding to a
harangue.
Q. Now, at this time—
A. I would not in answer to your question call them
well behaved at that stage.
Q. Prior to that time, you will agree that they were
well behaved?
A. Yes.
Q. May I ask you, sir, when in point of time did
you, acting in your official capacity, either yourself
or your officers place the persons engaged in the pro
cession under arrest or directed that they be placed
under arrest?
A. Which do you want to know? Do you want to
know when I gave the instructions that they be dis
persed within fifteen minutes or when they were ac
tually placed under arrest?
Q. My question had to do with when were they
placed under arrest?
A. I can answer this one exactly—at exactly a
quarter past one.
Q. Now, at the time the persons were placed under
arrest, were they singing?
A. Yes. I think I could add, singing and stomping
their feet and yelling and shouting.
Q. Now, of course, you do not know whether any of
these defendants were so engaged, do you,
A. I can identify a few of them by sight. I don’t
know their names. There were at least three or four
of them I could place right there at the scene.
Q. What song or songs were they singing?
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A. As I testified at the last hearing, there was so
much noise and shouting and singing going on that at
first I couldn’t identify. I think you informed me and I
do recalleet that they were singing the Star Spangled
Banner; then they had one of their own apparently, the
hymn sort of thing, “We will not go along” or some
thing of that nature.
Q. So, they were singing the Star Spangled Banner
in what you would describe as a loud tone!
A. Loud and boisterous.
Q. Now, sir, you did not say boisterous before. Let’s
consider—what do you mean by boisterous!
A. Again, loud, flamboyant, all of those synonyms
describing boisterousness, which you have made.
Q. I ’m afraid that doesn’t describe the term; per
haps you did not use the term boisterous. I understand
that you did say they were loud, but do I understand
that you are accusing them of singing the Star Span
gled Banner in any manner other than a respectful
one!
A. Yes, I am, and I meant to imply that, actually.
They were shouting; they were stomping their feet;
they were raising their hands, in a manner which I
would describe as boisterous.
Q. Were they disrespectful to you!
A. Yes, very definitely.
Q. Disrespectful in what manner, sir!
A. In the manner of not following any orderly pro
cedure, continuing to shout and yell. They had been
aroused to this pitch. You did not allow me to give the
testimony of the harangue which raised them up to
this point but they were aroused to a fever pitch caus
ing this boisterousness, this singing and stomping.
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Q. Did any of them use any profanity?
A. No, I heard no profanity.
Q. Did any of them act comtemptuous towards you
or towards any bystanders?
A. Only in the manner of shouting and singing as I
have described; no leering or anything like that.
Q. The singing of the Star Spangled Banner would
not express contempt towards you, would it?
A. It was in contempt of my request, yes.
Q. May I ask you, Mr. McNayr, why did you direct
the arrest of the defendants or the persons involved
in the procession?
A. Because, in .my judgment, the size of the crowd
had reached such proportions that I felt that it was
possible that we might have a riot or other violence in
the area.
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Q. Now, what led you to believe that there might be
a riot?
A. Simply by the size of the crowd, by the activities
of the students, the rousing of the interest of those
persons in the crowd to a point where they might well
have rioted.
Q. Did you observe any persons among the on-look
ers who tried to do violence or to in any manner in-
terefere with the persons engaged in the procession?
A. I saw no actual violence. There were in the crowd,
however, types of people whom we recognize were will
ing, ready and able and eager to create voilence.
Q. What, if anything, did you do as the Commander-
in-Chief of the Columbia Police on this occasion to
interfere with those potential trouble makers, other
than ordering the arrest of the persons engaged in the
procession?
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A. That was the principal thing to do, to get rid of
the source of the potential trouble.
Q. Yon have jnst described the persons in the pro
cession as being generally well behaved up until they
started singing?
A. Yes.
Q. I believe that you have not sought to testify that
any of them were of a violent attitude. You said some
were boisterous but you have not said they were vio
lent.
A. That’s correct.
Q. You have not said that any of them were poten
tially trouble makers or of a violent attitude?
,A. I don’t believe I ’ve said that. I don’t recognize
them as potential trouble makers other than the fact
that they—
Q. You never arrested the recognized persons
among the on-lookers who were potential trouble mak
ers?
A. No.
Q. And yet you did nothing about them?
A. There was nothing that I could do. They were not
devoloping any activity which could have led to their
arrest, but the students were.
Q. But you recognized that their mere presence led
you, if I ’m quoting you correctly, to in your judgment
to feel that the situation had gone far enough ?
A. That is correct.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, counsel said
that Mr. McNayr testified that their mere presence
created this thing and I ’m quite sure if the testimony
is read back, it was not their presence but that com-
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bined with the activities. I ’m not trying to testify as
to what the witness said but he is misquoting him there.
Mr. Perry: I did not intend to alter any of Mr. Mc
Nayr’s testimony. I do apologize.
The Court: Objection sustained.
Mr. Perry: Thank you, sir. No further questions.
(Witness excused.)
Whereupon, Mr. Coleman called Chief L. J. Camp-
40* bell who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:
D i r e c t E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Your full name is L. J. Campbell1?
A. That’s right.
Q. Are you the Chief of Police of the City of Co
lumbia?
A. I am.
Q. Did anything occur of an unusual nature on last
March the 2nd which caused you to be in the vicinity of
407 the horseshoe of the State House Grounds?
A. Yes. I had information that there would be a
march on the State House Grounds on the morning of
March the 2nd.
Q. As a result of that information, did you go to the
State House Grounds ?
A. I did.
Q. What time did you arrive there?
A. I would say about 11:15 or 11:30, somewhere
around there.
Q. Where exactly or in what immediate vicinity did
you station yourself?
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A. At the intersection of the horseshoe and Gervais
and Main.
Q. Would you state what you observed at that time!
A. When I arrived, I observed a group of students
coming East on Gervais in the direction of the State
House from Gadsden Street.
Q. Would you describe the appearance of this group
of students'?
A. Well, groups of from fifteen to twenty and there
were several groups travelling in the direction of the
State House.
Q. Were they Negro students?
A. They were.
Q. How close together, if you can tell us, Chief
Campbell, were these groups?
A. I believe they were a third of a block apart or
something like that.
Q. Can you estimate the size of the entire group of
students ?
A. I thought there was in the neighborhood of 200,
in my opinion.
Q. What did the students do?
A. They marched on to the corner of the horseshoe
at Gervais and Main, on the West side. They were ap
proached there by Mr. Walker, the legal assistant to
the Governor, and myself and Mr. McNayr, and I be
lieve Mr. Shorter was there; I don’t remember whether
Mr. Beckman was there or not. Mr. Shorter was, I
know.
Q. Did either of the students or anyone acting on
their behalf with them make any statement in your
presence at that time?
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A. Students? The only statement that was made at
that time was that they were asked by Mr. Walker, if
the student who was leading, was he in charge of their
group.
Q. Do you remember who that student was?
A. No.
Q. All right. Describe the activity, if any, which the
students engaged in thereafter?
A. Well, they proceeded to go through the State
House Grounds and they were instructed that they had
a right to go through the State House Grounds but it
must he peaceful.
Q. How long did this activity continue?
A. I would say for forty-five minutes or longer, may
be forty-five minutes.
Q. Chief Campbell, when you first arrived at the
horseshoe, were there any other people in and about the
horseshoe except the students?
A. When we first arrived, the students had not ar
rived.
Q. Were there any other people in or about the
horseshoe at that time?
A. There were some police officers in and around
the horseshoe area and a few civilians.
Q. What do you mean by a few?
A. I ’d say fifteen or twenty civilians.
Q. How long did this procedure or this marching or
walking around the State House Grounds continue ?
A. I ’d say approximately forty-five minutes or
longer.
Q. Did you remain in the horseshoe during this peri
od of time?
A. I did.
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Q. Describe what you observed as to whether or not
there were any people in the horseshoe after the forty-
five-minute period?
A. A large crowd had assembled.
Q. What were they doing?
A. Mingling around, talking, congesting the inter
section.
Q. With relation to the sidewalks on either side of
the horseshoe, the lanes for vehicular traffic, where
was this crowd of people?
A. Of course, they were crossing back and forth on
Gervais Street, on the sidewalks, on the horseshoe and
all around the intersection.
Q. State whether or not this crowd appeared to you
to be impeding traffic?
A. They did. We placed a man at the intersection to
handle motor vehicle and pedestrian traffic.
Q. Were any of the Negro students in or about the
horseshoe at this time?
A. They would cross the horseshoe from the West
to the East and from the East to the West on the
sidewalks.
Q. Do I understand you to say that they were in a
process of continual movements in and about the State
House Grounds, including the horseshoe?
A. That’s correct.
Q. All right, sir. After the forty-five minute period
had expired, what action, if any, did you take?
A. Mr. McNayr instructed David Carter, who we
considered the leader, whom we have dealt with for a
period of a year, that the crowd was gathering and
we would like for them to disperse within fifteen min
utes.
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Q. Did they disperse at the end of the fifteen min
utes?
A. They did not.
Q. What action, if any, did you then take?
A. We arrested them at 1:15.
Q. Chief Campbell, how long have you been a po
lice officer?
A. Thirty-one years.
Q. All of that time in the City of Columbia?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. State whether or not the presence of these stu-
422 dents, that you have testified to, the presence of the
increased crowd of on-lookers, as you have testified,
had any affect on any official action that you took there
that day?
A. Yes, it did. When a large group of people gather
on an occasion of that kind, you never know what’s in
the mind of people so I felt, for the safety of every
body concerned, that the demonstration should be dis
continued.
Q. Was this the reason for your participation in the
arrest of these students ?
A. That’s correct.
C r o s s E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Jenkins:
Q. Chief Campbell, I believe your testimony is that
the persons on that day were participating in a so-
called demonstration in walking groups, is that right!
A. That’s correct.
Q. You testified as to the size of the individual
groups ?
424 A. I ’d say they ran from fifteen to twenty normally.
At times it was larger groups than that. Now, on the
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State House Grounds, I think probably two groups
might get together, you know, in shutfling around. I
would say there were larger groups at times.
Q. I believe you stated that the groups were ap
proximately one-third of a block apart but walking
East on Gervais Street towards the State House
Grounds ?
A. I would say approximately that.
Q. You were present, I believe, at the horseshoe
when the groups were stopped, the individual groups?
A. That’s right.
Q. Now, when these groups were stopped, did that
tend to make the second group move closer to the first
group ?
A. It did.
Q. And perhaps lose its identity as a separate group
from the first group, is that correct?
A. That’s correct.
Q. That was after the group in front had been
stopped, however, isn’t it?
A. That’s correct.
Q. I believe you testified that each individual group
was stopped near the horseshoe?
A. That’s correct.
Q. Then they proceeded on to the State House
Grounds ?
A. That is correct.
Q. I read your affidavit on the warrant and on that
affidavit you stated that some of these persons in the
groups were bearing placards, is that correct?
A. That’s correct.
Q. Did you examine any of these placards?
A. I read some of the signs, religious things, words
referring to demonstration.
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Q. Words referring to what, Chief?
A. Demonstration. I ’ve forgotten what was on them;
seems like it was religions verses, for one thing. I
couldn’t say.
Q. Do you recall whether or not some placards car
ried what you would call discrimination slogans?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you recall that some of these placards car
ried wording to the effect that they were protesting
against certain conditions?
A. I would say that was the wording. I couldn’t tell
you what it was, hut I would say that was what was
meant.
Q. That’s the general sense?
A. That’s right.
Q. Chief, did you form any opinion as to the purpose
of that march on that day?
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, that has utterly
nothing to do with the charge of the breach of the
peace brought here today, Chief’s opinion on what the
purpose of the march might have been. We’re getting
into the socialogical question and that is not involved
here. We’re dealing here with the activities of these de
fendants, acting in concert, a large group of students
and their purpose in being there is not related to the
question before the Court today.
The Court: Objection sustained.
Q. Chief, did you talk with any of these persons who
participated in the march on that day?
A. I don’t believe I did, direct. I might have talked
to Dave Carter, I think I did.
Q. Did you hear—
A. I did talk to Dave Carter, yes.
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Q. When these persons walked along in groups,
were they conversing among themselves?
A. Yes, some.
Q. Do you recall anything which they may have
said?
A. No, I can’t.
Q. Now, when they were marching East on Gervais
Street in individual groups approaching the horseshoe,
did you observe them obstructing any traffic, vehicular
or pedestrian?
A. Of course, when they stopped, they probably did
obstruct some traffic. They were two abreast and prob
ably single file could have gotten by all right. Still, at
that time, they had not been given instructions.
Q. Prior to being stopped by you and other police
officers, they had obstructed no traffic?
A. I said they were in pairs and I would say a single
file could have gotten by all right.
Q. Now, they walked peaceably on to the State House
Grounds ?
A. That’s correct.
Q. Do you recall whether or not they were carrying
placards at that time?
A. They were at the beginning.
Q. Do you recall what finally happened as far as
the placards are concerned?
A. I can’t swear but I think that Dave Carter taken
up the cards. He did take up some, I know, but whether
he taken up all, I don’t know.
Q. Did you, Chief, walk around the State House
Building with any of these persons?
A. I did not. I stayed at the horseshoe. I placed men
over the grounds.
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Q. Did any of yonr men make a report that any of
4 these persons were disorderly in walking aronnd the
State House Grounds?
A. They did not.
Q. Under normal circumstances your men would re
port to you when you are at the scene?
A. They should.
Q. Is it reasonable to assume then that there was
no disorderly conduct on the part of these persons,
since you received no report from your officers?
A. I would take that for granted, yes.
438 Q. Now, Chief, when these groups of persons were
stopped there at the horeshoe to be given certain in
structions, it tended to slow down the whole walk, did
it not?
A. Slow down the walk?
Q. Slow down the normal manner in which the
groups were walking, isn’t that true?
A. I couldn’t answer that.
Q. Did all of the various groups of persons go on
to the State Capitol Grounds?
439 A. They did.
Q. Did they ever at any one time congregate them
selves together in a massed group ?
A. I don’t know whether you would call it massed;
I would say that I saw two or three of the groups get
together when they came out of the State House
grounds and back up the sidewalk headed West, they
did cross the intersection at the horseshoe back to the
West corner.
Q. Do I understand your testimony to be then that
as they marched around the State House Grounds and
440 came back West, when they got here at the horseshoe
some of the groups tended to come together?
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A. That’s right.
Q. Were they tending to come together because there
were other persons standing there around the horse
shoe?
A. Yes, other people were standing around the
horseshoe.
Q. I believe, also, you were there stationed with
other officers and, at this time, gave instructions to
some of the group as to dispersement?
A. Mr. McNayr did.
. Q. You were present?
A. That’s right.
Q. Was it not at that time, also, that these persons
tended to come together in larger numbers?
A. No, they would come together in larger numbers
waiting for the walk light in the traffic lights.
Q. They were, then, observing the traffic regula
tions ?
A. That’s right.
Q. So that, as any normal group of persons on the
street tend to do when they come to a street where it
has a red traffic signal, he would just have to stop?
A. That’s it.
Q. That would normally mean that you would come
together closer?
A. That’s right.
Q. Your testimony is, Chief, that there never was
at any time any one grouping of all of these persons
together?
A. All? No, I wouldn’t say that.
Q. From all appearances, they were trying to keep
from creating any traffic congestion. Would you state
that as a fact?
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445 Mr. Coleman: He can’t state as a fact what these
students tended to do.
The Court: Objection sustained.
Q. Chief, you have been in law enforcement, I be
lieve you said for thirty-one years?
A. Yes.
Q. Chief, do you recognize any of these eight de
fendants today as having been arrested by you or any
of your officers?
A. I couldn’t identify them, no.
446 Q- Do you recognize any of them as having partici
pated in any specific act on March the 2nd, which led
to the arrest of those persons?
A. The only thing I can say here is that they an
swered to their names when they were called and their
names are on the arrest record and their fingerprints
are on the arrest record, but as to identifying one or
picking out one, I could not.
Q. As to identifying what any one did, while on the
State House grounds or in that vicinity, you cannot
w identify them?
A. I could not.
Q. Now, because of your training, Chief, what you
had observed would stick in your mind, is that not
true? Very keenly, isn’t that true?
A. What I observed, yes.
Q. Now, your special training as a police officer
would make images that you observed stick keenly in
your mind?
A. What I observed?
Q. Yes.
A. Well, I ’d say a majority of it would, yes.
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Q. Because of your training, incidents which take ^
place in your presence would register more keenly than
with a normal person, isn’t that true?
A. Well, it could. Naturally I try to observe.
Q. If you had observed these defendants or any of
them breaching the peace, that woud have registered
with you, would it not?
A. Well, it did register.
Q. Yet, Chief, I believe you testified that you had
no conscious impression of any of these individuals
participating in any act which led to their arrest? Did
you not testify to that?
A. They were with a group that carried cards; they
were with a group that were singing and they were
with a group which were very loud and boisterous.
Q. That is an assumption, which you yourself have
testified that you made, because down at Police Head
quarters they answered to their names, they were fin
gerprinted, they were charged with the breach of the
peace?
A. With a group of people, yes.
Q. Chief, do you recall any individual making a com- «i
plaint to you that they were not able to use the side
walks or cross the streets because of these persons in-
voved?
A. I had a couple of people to make the remark
“Won’t you move these people, they are causing con
gestion” and so forth. I don’t know who they were.
Q. Chief, I am reading from the official transcript of
the hearing held on Tuesday, March, the 7th, and I
am reading from your testimony. “ Q. Within your
view, did they block anything? A. At times they blocked m
the sidewalks and we asked them to move over and
they did. Q. Did they obey your commands on that?
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A. Yes. Q. So that nobody complained that he
wanted to nse the sidewalk and he conld not do it? A.
I didn’t have any complaints on that.” Do you recall
that testimony, sir?
A. I don’t remember.
Q. You were here the day that that testimony was
given?
A. I said that I had remarks from a couple of peo
ple and they said “Why don’t you move these people
away from here? They are causing congestion.”
Q. But that was just in general a remark?
454 A. A general remark. I wouldn’t say who it was, I
couldn’t tell you who it was.
Q. They didn’t state that they, individually, were
inconvenienced ?
A. I think I did testify that I did ask pedestrians to
move on and not block the sidewalks.
Q. I believe you did testify to that. You also testi
fied that they moved on at your command?
A. That’s right.
Q. Did you arrest on that day, in that area, Chief,
<55 any one other than the persons who are defendants be
fore this Court today and other persons charged with
the breach of the peace?
A. There were 189 or 190 arrested.
Q. They were persons which you say participated
in the walk through the State House grounds?
A. That’s correct.
Q. You made no arrest of anyone else, other than
these persons?
A. No.
Q. No persons who were a part of the on-looking
group was arrested?
A. No.
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Q. Thank you. No further questions.
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Chief, just a moment.
Mr. Coleman: May I see the warrant, Your Honor1?
Tte Court: Yes. (Handing warrant to counsel.)
Q. Chief, I have in my hand a paper entitled “Ar
rest Warrant” , State against George Cleveland Fos
ter, James Jerome Kirton, Isaac Washington, Roland
Johnnie Rhames, Joseph B. Bailey, Isaac Jerome
Campbell, David Green and Charles Fulton Barr. Do
you recognize that paper?
A. Yes, sir, that’s my signature.
Q. Do you recognize the persons who are named
therein as having been within the group of names of
persons which were arrested on March the 2nd and a
part of the student group about which testimony has
previously been given?
A. These names were called.
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, we will agree
that the record will show that these eight defendants
were charged on that warrant, they were arrested and
that he signed the arrest records and they were finger
printed, also.
Q. Were any other persons, other than the ones
brought down to the Police Station and for which war
rants were issued and which you signed, arrested that
day in and around the State House grounds, to your
knowledge?
A. Did I sign warrants against any other group?
Q. Yes.
A. I did.
Q. Any other except the students involved in the
demonstrations ?
A. No.
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Q. So, then, the persons named in here were a part
of the larger group which had been arrested by you
and other officers and brought to the Police Station
from the State House grounds?
A. That’s correct. The names were called that night
by the Judge and they answered to their names in my
presence.
Q. Chief, you were questioned on cross examination
at length about the appearance and orderliness of the
student group. Were they orderly at all times?
A. Not at the last.
482 Q. Would you describe the activities at the last?
A. As I have stated, they were singing and, also,
when they were getting certain instructions, they were
very loud and boisterous.
By Mr. Jenkins:
Q. As I understand your answer to the last question
posed by counsel, you said after they were given cer
tain instructions they became loud and boisterous?
A. Yes.
Q. Were those the instructions, which previously
463 have been testified to, that they had fifteen minutes, or
something to that effect, to leave the grounds?
A. I believe your question is was that—
Q. Let me rephrase the question. Chief, we were
talking about certain instructions given them and after
them they became loud and boisterous?
A. That is correct.
Q. Now, were those the instructions to the effect that
they would have a certain length of time in which to
leave these grounds?
A. That is correct.
464 Q. Chief, I am reading again from your testimony
the other day and, in answer to a question, you said
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this: “Well, they were singing and right noisy at times,
particularly after the order was given to give them fif
teen minutes to disband” . Do you recall that?
A. I just testified to that.
Q. Now, when you said today, in response to ques
tion from counsel, that they were singing and boister
ous, you meant the same “ that they were singing and
right noisy at times” ?
A. That’s right. I think they mean the same thing.
(Witness excused.)
Whereupon, Mr. Coleman called Mr. Dan Beckman,
who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:
D i r e c t E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Mr. Beckman, what is your occupation?
A. Assistant Chief, South Carolina Law Enforce
ment Division.
Q. In your official capacity, Mr. Beckman, as a mem
ber of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division,
dd you have occasion last March, the 2nd, to be in the
vicinity of the State House grounds in the City of
Columbia?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. What time did you arrive that day?
A. Right around noon, maybe a little after.
Q. Could you locate yourself upon arrival as to the
front, back or side of the State House? Where were
you with relation to the horseshoe?
A. I got there shortly before noon. There were a
few officers from the Sheriff’s Department, maybe five
or six from the Sheriff’s Department, maybe one of
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our men, and I went on around to the back of the
building.
Q. What, if anything, occurred after your arrival!
A. I came around from the back of the building, that
was around on, I guess, South Main Street side, I came
back around and I did observe one or two groups of
colored people walking around the State House Build
ing, which would be, facing Main Street, going around
in this direction (indicating to the right), and other
groups followed after that. Several police officers were
around.
470 Q. Did this activity of the students to which you
refer continue!
A. It continued for forty-five minutes, maybe an
hour.
Q. Did you observe the area in and around the
horseshoe upon your arrival at the State House
grounds!
A. You mean when I first arrived or when the group
started going through!
Q. When you first arrived!
471 A. It was clear. There wasn’t anybody around there
at that time. The officers that I observed were stand
ing up on the State House steps. I didn’t pay any atten
tion much because I didn’t notice anybody around at
that time.
Q. Within your personal knowledge, what occurred
with relation to persons in the horseshoe or the ab
sence of persons in the horseshoe during that forty-
five-minute period!
A. Well, there was a large crowd of people in that
area. It was right around lunch time and I believe I
412 observed Mr. Walker talking to a group. I was in the
back part, about middle-ways in there.
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Q. With regard to the sidewalks on either side of
the monument and the lanes for vehicular traffic on
each side of the horseshoe, where were these crowds
located?
A. They were up on the corners, the corner of Ger-
vais and the horseshoe, across the street; there were a
group of people gathering over there by the hotel and
I noticed a group of people across from the other cor
ner, I think that’s the Palmetto Building over there,
and there were people to the right, on the corner of
Gervais and the horseshoe, and all around up in front.
Q. Were these people included in the crowd occupy
ing the streets, the sidewalks?
A. Some of them were. Some were on the sidewalks
and some were in the front of that horseshoe. I ob
served some in front of the horseshoe area.
Q. Was the traffic moving in a normal manner or had
it become stationary, more or less?
A. The traffic was moving slow at that time. If any
body had tried to get in that horseshoe, certainly they
would have been held up trying to get in or out at that
time.
C r o s s E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Perry:
Q. Lieutenant Beckman, you said if anybody had
tried to use that road around the horseshoe they would
have been blocked?
A. I ’m satisfied they would have had difficulty get
ting in or out.
Q. Did anybody attempt to use that, sir?
A. I didn’t observe anyone trying to use it, any ve
hicle trying to get out of there.
Q. Thank you, Lieutenant Beckman. Lieutenant
Beckman, I understand that you, too, were present and
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observed the students as they walked around the State
House premises for some time?
A. That’s correct.
Q. Now, Chief Campbell has stated that generally
the students were well demeaned. Do you agree with
that statement?
A. To a certain extent.
Q. To a certain point?
A. That’s correct.
Q. I believe, at which time he stated that they
started singing in what he described as a noisy
fashion ?
A. That’s right.
Q. Now, sir, Chief Campbell also stated that as he
observed the students walking through the State House
grounds, they were at times, some of them, in columns
of twos and in some instances he observed them single
file. Did you observe the same thing?
A. That’s correct.
Q. Did you, sir, observe that persons who also
wanted to use the sidewalks were able to do so?
A. At times the sidewalks were blocked and they
could not have gone through unless somebody asked
them to move, I ’ll have to put it that way. The side
walks were blocked at times.
Q. In that regard, Chief Campbell said that some
of the persons engaged in the procession of students
tended to block the sidewalks and, when he directed
them to move on, they did. Is such your observation?
A. That’s correct.
Q. So, that even if any of the students who were en-
1 gaged in the procession did tend at times to block the
sidewalks, whenever you or Chief Campbell or some
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other officer directed them to move on and not congest
the sidewalk, they generally obeyed that command?
A. I didn’t have the opportunity to have to ask any
of them to move.
Q. I believe that your testimony, just as Chief
Campbell’s is, is that their behavior was good generally
until they were told by the authorities to disperse?
A. That’s correct.
Q. Lieutenant Beckman, do you recognize any of the
eight persons on trial today as having been engaged
in any particular part of the procession on March the
2nd?
A. The only way that I could identify them, as part
of the over-all group, by fingerprints on their cards as
being eight of the number when they were booked at
the City Jail.
Q. You cannot definitely, other than by normal
police methods of identification, identify them?
A. I think there is one, but I wouldn’t want to say.
I ’m not absolutely positive.
Q. I see. Lieutenant Beckman, were you the ranking
official from the South Carolina Law Enforcement Di
vision present that day?
A. I was.
Q. How many other members of your staff were
present?
A. Two.
Q. I believe you testified the other day that, while
you were cooperating with the other officials, neverthe
less you made your decision independently?
A. That’s correct.
Q. At what time did you decide to place any group
of persons under arrest?
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A. I would say approximately five minutes after Mr.
McNayr had talked with David Carter.
Q. I see. Were you present at the time that Mr. Mc
Nayr talked with David Carter?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you remain in the general area where Mr.
McNayr was or did you move to another area?
A. I moved over, maybe thirty feet.
Q. Did you observe any of the signs that any of the
students might have been carrying?
A. I saw their signs hut I don’t recall any of the
wording on any of them, hut I remember looking at
them, hut I don’t remember what they were.
Q. So far as you were able to observe, the nearly 200
persons engaged in this procession were generally
orderly?
A. I would say, yes; hut from then on, no.
Q. From then on what?
A. No, I would say they were disorderly, they were
noisy.
Q. Now, you say they were noisy? Were they talking
loud or singing loud?
A. Singing loud, hollering, clapping their hands,
stomping their feet and that singing continued on, even
after they had been arrested.
Q. How long did the singing go on before they were
placed under arrest?
A. I would say about five minutes after Mr. McNayr
had talked with them, about that long I ’d say.
Q. Did any of the persons involved in this proces
sion threaten you or any other officer with bodily
harm?
A. No one threatened me.
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Q. I see. So far as you were able to observe, did they
threaten any onlooker?
A. I didn’t hear them threaten any one.
Q. Were any of them armed?
A. Not to my knowledge.
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Mr. Beckman, getting back just a minute to this
horseshoe immediately in front of the State House,
now, at the time the arrests were first begun, the time
of the first arrest, and immediately preceding that, say
for five minutes or longer, was that horseshoe in front
of the State House clear, other than normal traffic,
where a vehicle wishing to use it could have used it
without interference?
A. I would say maybe, at times, but it’s narrow up
in the front there; you don’t have very much room to
get a car in or out up there and, if a car had wanted
to come through, probably somebody would have to get
somebody to move out the way because there were
people up in there.
Mr. Coleman: No further questions.
By Mr. Perry:
Q. Lieutenant Beckman, the area, which has been
generally described here as the horseshoe area in front
of the State House grounds, is not really a thorough
fare, is it?
A. No, it’s an entrance and exit for those having
business in the State House.
Q. Wouldn’t you describe that area as a parking
area instead of a thoroughfare?
A. I ’ve used that as a parking area and I ’ve used it
to transact business in there, at times.
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Q. Generally speaking, whenever you have entered
that area in your automobile, you have been there for
the purpose of parking your car?
A. To carry on business in there, sometimes I have
parked in there.
Q. In other words, you just don’t normally drive in
and around that horseshoe for the purpose of using
that as a street or getting to any particular point?
A. I used it to get in the State House.
Q. You do not agree that that area is more for park
ing than for a thoroughfare?
A. It’s used as both.
Mr. Perry: That’s all.
Mr. Coleman: No further questions.
(Witness excused.)
Whereupon, Mr. Coleman called Mr. A. C. Shorter,
Jr., who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:
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By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Mr. Shorter, where are you employed?
A. South Carolina Law Enforcement Division.
Q. Did you have occasion on last March the 2nd to
carry out any official duty in the vicinity of the State
House or the State House grounds in the city of Co
lumbia?
A. Yes, sir, I did.
Q. Mr. Shorter, have you ever before had occasion
to be on the State House grounds in your official
capacity?
A. Yes, sir, I have.
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Q. Would you relate what caused you to be there
that time?
Mr. Perry: I ’m at a loss to understand the relevancy
of Mr. Shorter’s previous business on the State House
grounds. I, therefore, interpose an objection.
Q. Mr. Shorter, when you were ordered to make an
appearance on the State House grounds on last March
the 2nd, did you do that solely for the purpose of at
all of preventing any persons from walking in or
around the State House grounds?
A. I did not do that for any purpose of depriving
anybody of the use of the State House grounds.
Q. Do you know whether or not, of your own per
sonal knowledge, any request that has been previously
made from any organization or any person for any
demonstration on the State House grounds?
Mr. Perry: I object to that question on the ground
that I know of no law which requires any one to secure
permission to use the State House grounds, nor has it
been made to appear that, even if it is necessary to
secure the permission, that the permission of Lieuten
ant Shorter should be secured. Therefore, I object to
the question on the grounds of its irrelevancy.
Q. Mr. Shorter, we will leave that without going
into it. What time did you arrive on the State House
grounds last March the 2nd?
A. Shortly before noon.
Q. Did you observe the horseshoe at that time?
A. I did, sir.
Q. Describe what you saw?
A. When I first arrived, there were several officers
there. I joined Chief Campbell, City Manager McNayr,
Mr. Harry Walker and other officers. Shortly after I
joined them, the group of Negro students, walking
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M1 double file, two abreast, approached the west side of
the horseshoe from the west, on Gervais Street. After
they approached this horseshoe and, as a result of the
conversation there, they proceeded through the State
House grounds, around the west side of the State
House to Pendleton Street and there east, on the side
walk of Pendleton Street. They were two abreast and
approximately thirty in number. As they arrived at
each very narrow sidewalk there, there is only room
for about two people to walk abreast; they wanted to
go through. They were in more or less zig-zag forma-
508 tion. At the first sidewalk, I told them they could not
go through in that manner, that the sidewalks criss
cross and that they would block traffic, that they would
also prevent anyone from passing or meeting them and
going about their orderly business. I, also, observed
the State House, the Wade Hampton Office Building
and the Calhoun Office Building, and in each of these
there were persons at windows observing this general
demonstration there on the State House grounds. The
leader of that group, whom I know, was very belliger-
$os ent in that he would not accept my suggestion on each
sidewalk, but as he approached each and every side
walk on Pendleton, Sumter and back on Gervais
Streets, back to the horseshoe, he again said “We want
to go through here” . He said nothing about being sin
gle file or dispersing into smaller groups. He did get
back to the horseshoe and started back around the
State House. How many times they went around, I do
not know. They were singing, shouting, clapping their
feet and hands and, at that time, I proceeded to make
some arrests.
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By Mr. Perry:
Q. Mr. Shorter, do I understand you are Lieutenant
Shorter ?
A. That is correct.
Q. Are you of equal rank with Lieutenant Beckman
of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division?
A. Would you repeat that?
Q. Are you of equal rank with Lieutenant Beckman?
A. Lieutenant Beckman is not Lieutenant Beckman.
He is the Assistant Chief Beckman.
Q. Thank you for correcting me on that. Then you
are not of equal rank with Assistant Chief Beckman?
A. I am not.
Q. Was Assistant Chief Beckman in charge of any
persons, who might have been present from the South
Carolina Law Enforcement Division?
A. Assistant Chief Beckman was on the State House
grounds and we were not together at all times. As offi
cers, we have to make our own decisions. I made mine
and I ’m sure he made his.
Q. You mean to say you acted independently of As
sistant Chief Beckman?
A. I was not acting independently of him but work
ing with him.
Q. You were in cooperation with him?
A. That is correct.
Q. If you were acting in cooperation with him, as
your superior officer, you were taking orders from him,
weren’t you ? ,!
A. Not on each individual arrest, no.
Q. But generally speaking, you were subject to his
command, weren’t you?
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A. I was subject to bis command. He ordered that I
be there to keep the peace and that’s what I tried to do.
Q. Now, sir, nobody has said anything about your
being there to protect the peace.
A. You asked the question and I answered it.
Q. You were there subject to the command of As
sistant Chief Beckman?
A. That is a large block, as you know.
Q. Did you see the same thing that he saw?
A. I don’t know.
Q. Were you always in his presence?
A. I don’t know.
Q. You should be able to know that. You know a
lot more about what happened that day.
A. I know what I did. I don’t know what he did.
Q. Were you in his presence at all times?
A. I don’t know.
Mr. Perry: I respectfully submit, Your Honor, that
this witness ought to be required to answer that.
The Court: The witness will answer the question:
were you or were you not in the presence of Assistant
Chief Beckman?
A. Your Honor, I respectfully submit that I do not
know whether I was in the presence of Assistant Chief
Beckman at all times. I ’d say this, I did not see him
at all times.
Q. All right. Were you in any times in the presence
o f Chief Campbell of the City Police?
A. I was at times in the presence of Chief Camp
bell.
Q. Were you in the presence of Mr. McNayr, the
City Manager?
A. I was at times in the presence of Mr. McNayr,
the City Manager.
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Q. Were you in the horseshoe area, going into the
State House grounds, at the time the procession of
students first entered the State House grounds?
A. I believe I arrived prior to their entering the
State House grounds.
Q. Therefore, you saw the same thing that the other
officers saw?
Mr. Coleman: I f Your Honor please, he is obviously
asking a question which he cannot answer. How can
this witness testify that he saw the same thing as
somebody else saw? I have let counsel go pretty far
along this line, but how can a man possibly testify to
any such thing?
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, I respectfully submit that
I am on cross examination and you should allow me
wide latitude with this witness. He obviously has seen
more than anybody else saw and, therefore, we want
to cross examine him.
Mr. Coleman: There’s no testimony whatsoever that
this man saw any more than any other person.
Mr. Perry: You read the record and you will see
that he says he saw more.
The Court: Objection sustained.
Q. Now, let me ask you this, Lieutenant Shorter. Mr.
Beckman says that the procession of students were
orderly in every respect until they were told to dis
perse. Do you differ from Assistant Chief Beckman’s
testimony in that regard?
A. I did not hear the students when they were told
to disperse as I have testified previously. I do not know
when they were told to disperse.
Q. But your testimony is that when they first en
tered the grounds they were singing and shouting?
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A. My testimony is that as they went around the
State House they were belligerent and trying to go
through and block the crisscross walkways in the State
House grounds rather than to follow my suggestions
to single file and in smaller numbers and that’s what
I ’m saying.
Q. Who were they belligerent to?
A. To me.
Q. In what manner were they belligerent to you?
A. By not following my suggestions that they would
block those narrow sidewalks and those crisscross side
walks in the State House property.
Q. Now, Chief Campbell says the group walked
through, double abreast, columns of twos and in some
instances single file. Does your testimony differ from
that?
A. I ’m telling you what I saw and what I heard.
Chief Campbell will have to testify for himself.
Q. I ’m just wondering really why did you see some
thing that Chief Campbell did not see?
Mr. Coleman: Your Honor, I hate to keep interrupt
ing counsel but, as a basic principle of law, this man
cannot be put up here to witness and play off incident
by incident, testimony by testimony, against some
other witness. He has testified as to what he saw. He
may be cross examined as to what he said. He may not
be cross examined as to what somebody else did.
Mr. Perry: He can say whether or not he under
stands the facts as the other witnesses understood
them. Your Honor, I respectfully submit now, and be
fore you make your ruling, I urgently request permis
sion to proceed to cross examine this witness because
it is quite obvious that his testimony is varying ma
terially from other witnesses who have testified in this
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proceeding and I think that Your Honor is entitled to
be made to realize in what manner his testimony varies.
The Court: Objection sustained as to the testimony
pertaining to what Chief Campbell saw. He can tes
tify as to what he himself saw and as to what was seen
by Chief Campbell, we will rule that out.
Q. As I understand you to say, Lieutenant Shorter*
you said that you heard people singing the first time
they went around the State House grounds?
A. I did not testify to that.
Q. Just say yes or no.
A. I said that I did not testify to that. You asked
me—
Q. Did you understand that question? You heard
them singing when they first went around?
A. I said no.
Q. Now, when you did hear them first singing, what
were they singing?
A. I don’t remember what they sang.
Q. Would you recognize the Star Spangled Banner
if you heard it?
A. If it were sung out there, I think I would recog
nize it.
Q. Was it sung?
A. I don’t remember hearing it.
Q. Now, did you follow the same group of persons
around the State House grounds at all times or did
you station yourself at some point on the grounds?
A. I followed one group entirely around the State
House grounds and then I walked about the State
House grounds to see that nothing took place out of
order.
Q. You say you walked about the State House
grounds to see that nothing took place out of order?
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A. Correct.
Q. Did you become aware of the persons as they
were congregating on the streets adjacent to the State
House grounds ?
A. I did observe a number of persons.
Q. Do you recognize any of the defendants before
the Court today as being a part of the procession on
March 2nd?
A. Would you ask them to stand up?
Q. Well, they are all sitting down. I believe you
have had an opportunity to observe them?
A. If you’ll ask them to stand up, I will tell you yes
or no, whether I can recognize them.
Q. You have had an opportunity to observe them.
Mr. Perry: I respectfully submit, Judge, that this
man can say whether or not he recognizes any of the
group, persons, on that day. If he does or he doesn’t,
he can say.
The Court: The witness from his viewpoint can see
if he recognizes them. I f he can’t, let him say so.
A. I can recognize some persons in the courtroom.
The Court: This first row here are the eight de
fendants.
A. No, I cannot recognize any of those eight.
Q. Did any of these defendants on trial today or did
any person threaten you in any manner?
A. Threaten me?
Q. Yes.
A. No.
Q. Did they attempt to do you bodily harm in any
way whatsoever?
A. No.
Q. When you placed certain persons under arrest,
did they submit peaceably to that arrest?
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A. I don’t know how peacefully they submitted to the
arrest.
Q. Did they resist arrest?
A. They were singing and shouting and clapping
their hands and what not. I don’t consider that to be
peacefully.
Mr, Perry: Your Honor, that does not respond to
my question. I move that that answer be stricken and
that the witness be directed to answer the previous
question as to whether or not any of the defendants
resisted his arrest.
Mr. Coleman: Judge, if you please, may I comment
on this ? Counsel has come pretty close to arguing that
this man has got to answer the question yes or no in
all cases. I believe he has adequately described the
activity, what these people did and why they were be
ing placed under arrest. It’s hard to tell what resist
arrest means. Certainly a witness doesn’t have to an
swer yes or no without any qualification or explanation
to his answer.
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, he knows whether they re
sisted or not.
The Court: The question of resisting arrest is not
before the Court at this time. The question is breach
of the peace. They were put under arrest and you want
to know were they peaceful?
Mr. Perry: No, sir, I was really asking whether or
not they resisted arrest or whether they submitted to
the arrest without any difficulty.
The Court: The charge is breach of the peace so we
will assume that they did not resist arrest. The Court
will assume that.
Mr. Perry: All right, sir. That’s all.
(Witness excused.)
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Mr. Coleman: We have no further witnesses.
The Court: Court is recessed until 2 :00 o’clock.
(Afternoon session.)
(Court reconvened at 2:00.)
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, at this time, the
defendants move to dismiss the cases pending against
them on the grounds that the State has failed to es
tablish the c o r p u s d e l i c t i . We further move to dismiss
the case on the ground that the State has failed to
prove a p r i m a f a c i e case. I will make no argument on
that motion.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, sufficient evi
dence is in the record, sufficient to prove the crime and
associate the eight defendants here today with that
crime, breach of peace, and, therefore, we oppose coun
sel’s motion.
The Court: The motion is denied.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, at this time the
defendants move to dismiss the case against them on
the ground that, by arrest and prosecution of these de
fendants, the police powers of the State of South Car
olina are being used to deprive the defendants of the
right of freedom of assembly and to freedom of speech
guaranteed to them by the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution and further secured to them
under the able protection and due process clauses of
the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Con
stitution, the evidence conclusively showing that at the
time of their arrest the defendants were included in a
peaceful and lawful assemblage of persons, orderly in
every respect upon the public streets of the State of
South Carolina. That is the motion and there is no
argument.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, the State op
poses that motion on the ground that, if there ever has
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been a case of this nature more clearly shown, the law
enforcement officers had leaned over backward in or
der to permit an orderly demonstration and did per
mit a demonstration. The evidence is clear that they
were not interfered with until such time as it became,
in a manner, disorderly. The facts show that circum
stances surrounding the whole occurrence created a
breach of the peace, in lieu of a situation which a much
worse breach would have occurred had it not been
stopped.
The Court: The motion is denied.
Whereupon, Mr. Jenkins called James Jerome K ir-
ton, who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:
D i r e c t E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Jenkins:
Q. Mr. Kirton, speak loudly enough so that we can
clearly understand you because your testimony will be
reported by the Reporter. You are one of the defend
ants on trial here today?
A. That is correct.
Q. You were arrested with a group of persons on
the 2nd day of March, 1961, is that correct?
A. I was.
Q. Will you relate to the Court the circumstances
leading up to your arrest that day?
A. On March the 2nd, 1961, a group of students left
Benedict College and proceeded to Zion Baptist
Church; arriving at Zion Baptist Church, we held
something of a semi-pep rally to reaffirm those things
which we believe in. We divided up into groups of fif
teen to eighteen possibly and proceeded to the State
House grounds. We were stopped near the State House
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grounds, I ’m not familiar with the streets, and we were
detained by some official, I ’m not certain of his name
either. Then we proceeded on the grounds and we went
around once. Then we were detained again by an officer
and we were asked to disperse and to depart from the
area.
Q. Now, let’s go back a little bit. You met at Zion
Baptist Church!
A. That is correct.
Q. Now, you say there were a group of students
from Benedict College!
A. Yes.
Q. Were there persons from other places as well?
A. I believe there were.
Q. Now, you said that you had a meeting of some
sort!
A. That is correct.
Q. Will you state the purpose of the meeting!
A. The purpose of the meeting was to reaffirm our
beliefs concerning segregation and the general prin
ciple of discrimination in order that we may proceed
from there and go to the State House grounds.
Q. Now, you walked up the street, I believe you
said, in groups of fifteen or eighteen!
A. Yes.
Q. Do you recall the appropriate distance between
the groups of persons!
A. Possibly a half block. You mean between groups!
Q. Between groups!
A. Possibly a half block.
Q. Did you have any particular order or formation
within the groups themselves!
A. Yes.
Q. Would you care to state how you were walking!
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A. We were two abreast, walking on the appropriate ^
side of the street.
Q. I would imagine there was some general con
versation among the persons in the groups?
A. If there was, I didn’t notice it.
Q. You just walked along without talking to each
other ?
A. Without talking.
Q. Did you carry anything in your hands?
A. Some of us had signs or placards.
Q. Placards?
A. That’s correct. 546
Q. Were you holding them in your hands or how
were you carrying them?
A. Some had them in their hands and others had
them around their necks.
Q. Did you have a placard?
A. I did.
Q. What was on it?
A. I am proud to be a Negro.
Q. When you were walking through the streets on
your way towards the State House grounds, did y o u 547
observe the regular traffic regulations and so forth?
A. I did.
Q. Incidentally, in what group were you?
A. Second to the last.
Q. When you got to the State House grounds, other
groups had already gotten there?
A. Yes, they were.
Q. And you said your group was stopped by some
person at the State House grounds?
A. That is correct. 546
Q. You were allowed to go on to the grounds, is that
correct?
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A. We were.
Q. Would you care to state your purpose for going
on to the State House grounds?
A. The purpose was to submit a protest to the citi
zens of South Carolina, along with the Legislative
Bodies of South Carolina, our feelings and our dis
satisfaction with the present condition of discrimina
tory actions against Negroes, in general, and to let
them know that we were dissatisfied and that we would
like for the laws which prohibited Negro privileges in
this State to be removed.
Q. That was your purpose individually?
A. Individually.
Q. Had you heard a similar purpose stated to others
of your comrades?
A. That is correct.
Q. Would you care to state if that was the general
purpose of all of you that participated in this move
ment?
A. The general feeling of the group was that segre
gation in South Carolina and discrimination was
against the general principles of humanity and that
we would like to see them removed.
Q. Why did you pick the State House grounds to
go on?
A. Our law officials, our government officials are
there and they make the laws to represent the citizens
of this State, and I felt they should be aware of our
particular feelings.
Q. Why did you pick this particular means of ex
pressing your grievance?
A. I hoped that this would be an effective one to let
them know that we, as citizens and as students, did not
agree with the general principles of segregation and
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we were there to protest in order that they might see
for themselves that we were in number and that we
did not and we still do not go along with the principles
of segregation.
Q. Now, you stated that you had in mind portray
ing your feelings to members of the State Legislature,
I believe you testified to that?
A. Yes.
Q. Would you state whether or not you had in mind
any other persons to impress with your feelings?
A. The Governor, the Legislature and the general
public of South Carolina.
Q. At the time that you went on the State House
grounds, were you aware of the fact that it was public
property?
A. I was.
Q. You have sat in court throughout the morning
proceedings, is that correct?
A. That is correct.
Q. You have listened to the testimony from the wit
nesses for the State?
A. That is correct.
Q. I ’m certain that you heard that there was some
testimony with reference to singing?
A. I heard the testimony.
Q. By a group of people?
A. That is correct.
Q. Would you care to state for the record what you
know about the singing which was taking place?
A. Singing occurred after we were arrested. Now, as
to the boisterousness and the loudness and disrespect
for the National Anthem and other patriots, I cannot
agree with those persons who testified earlier.
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Q. Did you personally interfere with anybody in the
use of the sidewalks and the streets on that day?
A. By no means.
Q. Did you personally interrupt any vehicular traf
fic on the streets that day?
A. I did not.
Q. Are you aware of any of your comrades who were
with you on that date who interfered with the use of
the streets by other citizens?
A. If they did, it was not brought to my attention.
Q. Is it true that a large number of onlookers
gathered while you were there on the State House
grounds ?
A. Adjacent to the State House, yes.
Q. Did you pay any particular attention to them?
A. Well, only generally. I just generally saw them.
Q. Did you hear any remarks being made by any
who may have been in the audience there ?
A. No, I didn’t.
Mr. Coleman: I didn’t catch that question.
Mr. Jenkins: I asked him if he heard any remarks
being made by any other persons who were in the
audience that day. I meant by persons in the audience,
the onlookers, persons not actually engaged in the
group with you.
A. If they said something, I didn’t hear it.
Q. Did you observe any overt action on their part
which would put you in fear that you would be in dan
ger of being injured or anything of that sort?
A. My composure was not hampered by any one.
Q. You mean by that, that nobody frightened you by
any action?
A. None whatsoever.
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Q. Did you observe any of your comrades or per
sons with you who appeared to be apprehensive that
they would he attacked by any person?
A. If they felt it, they didn’t show it.
Q. By the group, I mean any of the onlookers who
may have been there?
A. No.
Q. Did you hear any of your friends or persons with
you express any opinion—please strike that. You tes
tified as to what was on the placard which you carried?
A. That is correct.
Q. Do you know who prepared these placards?
A. Students prepared them.
Q. Students. Were you among the group of students
that prepared them?
A. I was.
Q. Do you know what was on any of the placards
which were carried?
A. I have a memory of some of the other statements.
Not all of them.
Q. Would you care to state for the record what some
of those placards there said?
A. Mine had “ I am proud to he a Negro” . Others
had statements “ Give me liberty or give me death” .
“ Down with segregation” . I can’t remember all of them.
Q. Can you state the general expression or tone of
those placards which you were carrying?
A. The tone of all the placards were in harmony with
the antisegregation movement in this State.
Q. Do you know what became of those placards? Are
they in court today?
A. If they are, it’s not to my knowledge.
Q. Do you know what became of them?
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A. I do know they were taken up. Some of them
were taken up by Reverend Carter.
Q. By a member of your group on that day?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. You do not now know what have become of them?
A. I do not.
Q. You are a student at Benedict College?
A. I am.
Q. How long have you been a student there?
A. This is my third year. Junior Class.
Q. Would you state whether or not you belong to
any student group?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. Would you say that the persons who were asso
ciated with you on March the 2nd of 1961, when you
went on the State House grounds, were members of
the group of which you are associated?
A. That is correct.
Q. Would you care to state the nature of your or
ganization ?
A. The general nature of the organization is non
violent protesting against discriminatory actions
against Negroes in this State and we adhere to the
principles of peaceful resistance, and we believe that
those laws which are unjust, we believe in trying to
find just means of having them discontinued.
Q. Now, in trying to exert what you consider your
rights, are you conscious of the fact that other citi
zens may have equal rights ?
A. I believe that other citizens have equal rights.
Q. Does your organization have any teachings or
practices with reference to the rights, respective rights
of other citizens?
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A. It is the general consensus of the organization
to respect the rights of others as well as to have them
respect our particular rights.
Q. And you say that non-violence is a part of your
creed?
A. It is the basis.
Q. Incidentally, where is your native State?
A. This is my native State, South Carolina.
Q. South Carolina. You have lived in South Caro
lina the majority of your life?
A. All of my life.
Q. This is your third year at Benedict College ?
A. That is correct.
Q. Are you one of the officers in this particular stu
dent organization at Benedict College?
A. I am not.
Q. Do you regularly attend the meetings?
A. I do.
Q. Do you have any regular meeting time?
A. Not a set date. We meet when we feel it is needed.
Q. Meet when?
A. We meet when we feel it is necessary.
Q. Do you meet at the call of your officers?
A. Generally, yes.
Q. As a Junior in College, what is your age?
A. I am twenty years old.
Q. Do you know generally the members of your stu
dent organization?
A. Generally, yes.
Q. Do you know the leaders and officers of your or
ganization? I
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Were you in this court on Tuesday of last week?
A. I was.
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Q. Do you know James Edwards, Jr.?578
A. I do.
Q. Is he a student at Benedict College?
A. He is a Benedict student.
Q. Will you state approximately how long you have
known him?
A. Since the latter part of January.
Q. January of what year?
A. 1961.
Q. 1961 ? Is that when he first came to Benedict Col
lege?
874 A. Yes.
Q. Is James Edwards, Jr., a member of your stu
dent organization, the same organization you have
previously spoken of?
A. He is a member.
Q. He is?
A. He is.
Q. I believe you said you have known the officers and
leaders of the student group, is that correct?
A. I do.
ns Q. Is James Edwards, Jr., one of the officers or
leaders of the student group?
A. He is not.
Q. To your knowledge, is James Edwards, Jr., a
leader or officer of any student organization group on
Benedict College campus?
A. He is not.
Q. On March the 2nd, 1961, was James Edwards,
Jr., a member of the group that went from Zion Baptist
Church to the State House grounds ?
Mr. Coleman: How far does the Court want this line
of questioning to go? James Edwards, Jr., is not on
trial here today.
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The Court: Mr. Coleman, I certainly am interested ^
in getting to getting to the bottom of this and, in view
of the fact that Edwards has been tried, for my own
personal interest and personal knowledge, I would like
to find out about Edwards, myself.
Mr. Jenkins: I have only a couple more questions
with reference to this line of questioning.
Q. I believe the question was: on the 2nd day of
March, 1961, James Edwards, Jr., formed a member
of the group of you that went on the State House
grounds!
A. He was with us, yes. 178
Q. Was that as a part of your student group move
ment!
A. He was there as a part of the movement.
Q. To your knowledge, was James Edwards, Jr.,
one of your leaders on that day?
A. He was not.
Mr. Jenkins: I have no further questions.
C r o s s E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. The Reverend Carter, to whom you made refer- we
ence a few minutes ago, is that David Carter?
A. That is correct.
Q. Is he in the courtroom?
A. Yes, he is.
Q. Was he a leader of the student group on March
2nd?
A. He was our recognized leader.
Q. He did direct this demonstration?
A. Yes.
Q. Isn’t it true that your student group was allowed
to proceed in and about the grounds of the State House
for approximately an hour?
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A. From forty to sixty minutes, yes.
Q. That was without interference from the police?
A. Without direct interference, yes.
Q. Direct? Did they give you any interference at all?
A. After a certain length of time, we were asked to
disperse.
Q. That was after forty minutes to an hour that you
have testified to, is that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. No interference was put in your way prior to
that time?
A. No.
Q. I believe that this demonstration, as you call it,
began about 12:00 o’clock, is that correct?
A. In the neighborhood of 12:00.
Q. Was that designed, so far as you know, to coin
cide with the convening of the Legislature that day?
A. Not to my knowledge, whether it was actually de
signed to coincide with that, but certainly the Legisla
ture, as I previously testified, they are a part of our
lawmaking body here.
Q. It is common knowledge that the Legislature gen
erally convenes about eleven or twelve o’clock every
day?
A. It is.
Q. You knew that?
A. Yes. 1
Q. Don’t you think, if the only purpose of your dem
onstration that day, was to call attention to the various
members of the Legislature and any other officials that
may have been in or out the State House, that two hun
dred or approximately two hundred Negro students
marching in and about the grounds with placards would
have had time in an hour to sufficiently demonstrate
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to any of them, by person, their views or whatever ggg
views they were expressing by demonstration or call
attention to themselves?
A. Are yon asking that we could easily have expres
sed our view to one person instead of—
Q. No. I ’m asking if you don’t think an hour was
long enough for your purpose?
A. I don’t.
Q. How long did you intend to demonstrate ?
A. Until conscience told me that the demonstration
had lasted long enough.
Q. Isn’t it true that you were aware of the extra- 586
ordinary number of people who had congregated in
this horseshoe in the hour’s period during the time
the demonstration had occurred?
A. I don’t think there was such an extraordinary
number.
Q. There was an unusual crowd, wasn’t it? You’re
not going to tell us it wasn’t, are you? Do you normally
see such a crowd on the horseshoe?
A. Normally, I don’t visit this particular place, but
I still say I don’t think it was such an unusual crowd, rer
Q. You don’t think that your activities there during
this hour period attracted an unusual crowd in and
around the horseshoe?
A. There were several policemen and other officials
of that nature.
Q. You’re not deliberately avoiding the question, are
you?
A. By no means.
Q. Let me ask it again and see if you will answer it.
Do you think—
A. I don’t think.
Q. You don’t think what?
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A. I don’t think, as yon put it, that this crowd was
there. I don’t think it was a crowd.
Q. You don’t think there was a crowd there? Did
you estimate the number of people there?
A. I can’t because I was in the process of moving,
a continuous mareh, I wasn’t standing still.
Q. Did you hear the instructions given by the police
officials to the students to disperse?
A. They were passed along. I didn’t hear the indi
vidual instructions.
Q. Did you know about them?
A. Yes.
Q. Why didn’t you proceed to disperse?
A. Well, mainly because the State House is public
property and I thought the Law Enforcement Agency
had taken a step too far probably, when they asked us
to leave.
Q. You thought they were wrong?
A. In my judgment, yes.
Q. You thought they shouldn’t have done it. Is it
also your view, your opinion, along that same line, that
ssi you should have been allowed, you and the other stu
dents, to continue indefinitely to this sort of concerted
effort, a public demonstration, using two hundred stu
dents, regardless of what might have occurred as a
result of those demonstrations?
A. When you say “what might have occurred”—I
don’t know what you mean.
Q. Regardless of the situation which might have
been created with regard to blocking sidewalks, block
ing the street, breaching the peace generally?
Mr. Perry: I would like to generally interpose an
objection to any questions which would call for this
witness to give an answer based upon speculation. I
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note that Mr. Coleman says “ regardless of what might
have occurred” and there is no evidence that anything
did occur. I object to the question on the ground that
it calls for a speculative answer.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, the witness
has testified and admitted that he and other students
were allowed to demonstrate for an hour. I want him
to say to what extent he thinks he should have been
allowed to go in order to carry out this demonstration,
with regard to the crowd which had developed in and
around the State House grounds in addition to the
students and which he saw and of which he has heard
testimony this morning. If he does not wish to answer
the question, he can so state and that would be all.
Mr. Perry: First of all, I believe the witness has
previously said that he though that he should be al
lowed to go as far as conscience would allow; secondly,
I should like to note that as to how far the person
engaged in the procession on March 2nd should have
been allowed to go would be for Your Honor to say
and not for the witness. I believe that principally what
we have here, that Your Honor is being called upon
to say whether or not on March the 2nd the proces
sion of individuals had been allowed to go on for
too long a period of time, as to how far this witness
feels they had a right to continue to walk through the
State House premises, I do not believe would be a
proper subject for cross examination of this witness
but rather be an issue which counsel might address our
selves to this Court. In other words, I believe it is
within the perogative of Your Honor to say exactly
what the situation was, in the light of all the testi
mony which has come out of this particular line of
cross examination and should not be allowed.
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Mr. Coleman: I might say one other word, Your
Honor. This witness has been quite free to express
in full at least his idea of the purposes of this group.
He has stated why he went to the State House grounds.
He has stated why he thinks that group went, informa
tion of which he had personal knowledge. He has ad
mitted that he was allowed to demonstrate for an hour
there, now, if, after setting forth all of those facts,
isn’t his opinion and his thoughts and the purposes of
this group, which seems to he at variance with what
actually occurred with this persisting demonstration
for more than an hour—I should like to ask the wit
ness : do you wish to answer my question?
The Court: Objection overruled. Answer the ques
tion.
Q. If you do not say so, I will not persist.
A. I think we should have continued as long as con
science and providence said so.
Q. Night and day, if necessary?
A. If necessary to accomplish the end, yes.
Q. Then, anything that might have been short of
acts of violence on your part, you think would have
been justified?
A. Your question seems to mean that there were
indications of violence, then, I could not answer that
question.
Q. I said short of violence?
A. As long as violence and the rights of other cit
izens were not being harmed, it should have been con
tinued.
Q. You didn’t see any large crowd in the horseshoe,
is that correct ?
A. No large crowd.
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Q. No unusual crowd? Could you estimate the num
ber?
A. I cannot.
Q. Could you estimate it with relation to the size
of the student group?
A. There were approximately two hundred students
and, as I previously stated, we were marching, not
standing still in the horseshoe, therefore, I don’t know
what happened at the horseshoe.
Q. Didn’t you pass there from time to time?
A. As I previously stated, I was allowed to only go
around once.
Q. Did you see the horseshoe at any time during
that hour ?
A. I did.
Q. Did you see an unusually large crowd there?
A. I didn’t.
Q. Have you been at Benedict for the three years?
A. That is correct.
Q. All three years. I believe you said that you did
not hold an office in the organization?
A. I do not.
Mr. Coleman: No further questions.
Mr. Jenkins: Unless the Court has some questions,
we have no further questions.
The Court: The Court has no questions.
(Witness excused.)
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, at this time the
defendants would like to stipulate that, if the remain
ing defendants on trial here today, were to be called
to the witness stand to testify that their testimony
would be substantially the same as was the testimony
of the witness who has just testified.
Mr. Coleman: We will agree to that.
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Mr. Perry: The defendants have no further testi
mony or evidence.
The Court: Does the State have anything in reply?
Mr. Coleman: The State has no evidence in reply.
Mr. Perry: At this time the defendants respectfully
renew out motions for dismissal, which were urged
upon the Court at the conclusion of the State’s case and
we ask that they be repeated in the record as if I were
making them verbatim again at this time.
The Court: Any objection?
Mr. Coleman: The State opposes the motions on the
grounds heretofore set out.
The Court: Motions denied, and that will be entered
in the record.
Mr. Perry: Nothing further at this time.
Mr. Coleman: Nothing further from the State.
Mr. Perry: We will waive the making of a final argu
ment, Your Honor, and we call upon Your Honor for
a ruling based upon the evidence.
Mr. Coleman: Since the defense has no argument,
we reserve our rights to a final argument.
The Court: The Court will recess for five minutes.
(Court reconvened.)
The Court: I ’m going to call out the names of the
following defendants in this case. As I call them out,
I would like for them to approach the Bench, from left
to right, as I face you.
George Cleveland Foster, James Jerone Kirton, Isa
ac Washington, Boland Johnnie Ehames, Joseph B.
Bailey, Isaac Jerome Campbell, Davie Green, Charles
Fulton Barr.
The Court: George Cleveland Foster, how old are
you?
George Cleveland Foster: Seventeen.
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The Court: You are now seventeen!
George Cleveland Foster: Yes, sir.
The Court: What school do you attend?
George Cleveland Foster: Carver High School in
Spartanburg, South Carolina.
The Court: James Jerone Kirton.
James Jerone Kirton: Yes, sir.
The Court: I believe you stated on the witness stand
that you are twenty?
James Jerone Kirton: Yes, sir.
The Court: Isaac Washington.
Isaac Washington: I am eighteen.
The Court: Roland Johnnie Rhames.
Roland Johnnie Rhames: Benedict College. Twenty.
The Court: Joseph B. Bailey.
Joseph B. Bailey: Benedict College. I ’m twenty.
The Court: Isaac Jerome Campbell.
Isaac Jerome Campbell: Benedict College and I ’m
twenty-one.
The Court: Davie Green.
Davie Green: Benedict College and I ’m eighteen.
The Court: Charles Fulton Barr.
Charles Fulton Barr: Benedict College. Twenty
years old.
The Court: Would the defense counsel like to say
anything at this time?
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, of course, by word of miti
gation, I would like to urge that Your Honor can deter
mine that these are all young men, high school and
college age, who, according to their testimony, acted
as they did in the sincere belief that they were joining
together in concert for the purpose of expressing their
grievances toward the public generally. I urge for your
consideration, the testimony of all of these officers,
with the possible exception of one, their conduct was
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orderly. It seems that the basic complaint, which rings
ont in all of the testimony of the officers is the fact
that they did not disperse when they were ordered to.
Now, there is other testimony concerning the lond man
ner of their singing hut I cannot believe that the loud
ness of the singing was the thing which percipitated
their arrest. I think it was the fact that they walked
together in concert and refused to disperse when di
rected by the officers to do so. Looking at all of the
testimony, it seems to stand ont in my mind, Your
Honor, these young men are not of a criminal mind
or intent and I ask that you he lenient in sentencing
614 them.
The Court: Would any of the defendants like to
say anything at this time?
(No reply.)
The Court: The testimony that has come out today
has certainly thrown a light, a new light, on these pro
ceedings. As I stated last week, the idea of adults us
ing youths for the purpose of violating the law is one
which is a grave concern to all of us. I ’m taking your
youth into consideration, every one of you. From the
6i6 testimony of witnesses to date, the actual recognized
leader is, one David Carter, and that was brought out
by the State, also by the defendants, by one of the
witnesses for the defense. I ’m taking that into consid
eration. I ’m taking your youth into consideration, also,
but I want to tell you now, if you should ever come
before me again with anything, that would indicate
to me a flagrant violation of the law on your part, that
you had no respect for law and order and I know that
you do, I have reason to believe that you do for every
one of you young men know that we have international
problems, problems of space and heaven knows what
else to worry about.
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To repeat the finding of the Court, I find each and
every one of yon guilty, each of you now standing be
fore me.
The sentence of Isaac Jerome Campbell, your age
was twenty-one, $100.00 or 30 days.
As to you young men under twenty one, the sentence
of the Court will be $100.00 or 30 days, and, again, I
suspend half of that sentence upon the payment of
the fine of $50.00.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, at this time, the
defendants move for arrest of judgment or, in the
alternative, for a new trial upon all grounds previously
noted in the several motions for dismissal and we ask
that they be repeated in the record verbatim as if I
were so stating them at this time.
The Court: It shall be repeated in the record. All
motions are denied.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, at this time,
we move for arrest of judgment on the ground that
the Court erred in finding the defendants guilty, the
evidence having shown conclusively that the defendants
were lawfully assembled with other persons upon the
public streets and property of the State of South
Carolina for the purpose of giving public expression
concerning their grievances, a right secured to them
by the First and Fourteenth Amendment to the United
States Constitution. That concludes our motion.
The Court: Motion is denied.
Mr. Perry: At this time, may it please the Court, de
fendants give notice of intention to appeal. We will
file the written motion within the time required by
Statute and we ask that Your Honor set the appeal
bond.
The Court: The appeal bond for each will be $10.00.
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Mr. Perry: Tour Honor, it’s so late in the day, the
actual mechanics of substituting the appeal bonds for
the recognizance bonds, which are on file, as to each
one of them, it may take us a day or two.
The Court: The Court will be very glad to grant
that until Thursday. Court adjourned until 10:00 o’
clock Thursday morning, March 16, 1961.
I hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and cor
rect transcript of the notes of testimony taken by me
at the hearing of the above cause.
E leanor S. M ackey,
622 R e p o r t e r .
TRANSCRIPT OF TESTIMONY
Before Honorable Frank Powell, Magistrate on
Thursday, March 16, 1961, Richland County Court
House, Columbia, South Carolina.
A p p e a r a n c e s :
For the State: J. C. Coleman, Esq.
For the Defendants: Matthew J. Perry, Esq., Lin
os* coin C. Jenkins, Jr., Esq., Donald James Sampson, Esq.
The Court: I would like to announce the rules of
the Court. There will be no pictures taken within this
courtroom of any type. Any one who wants to attend
these hearings may do so as long as there is a seat
available, however, we cannot permit any one standing
up around the walls.
The Court has before it warrants charging the fol
lowing persons with breach of the peace. The warrant
reads in part: State of South Carolina, County of
624 Richland. Personally appeared before me, Frank
Powell, Magistrate of the said County and the said
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State, L. J. Campbell, being duly sworn, says that
James C. West, Sinclair Salters, Hezikah Johnson,
James Clyburn, William Erick Moultie, David Carter,
Benjamin James Clover, Samuel S. Williams, and
others, did, at Coumbia, South Carolina, on March
2nd, 1961, on the State Capitol grounds and on ad
jacent sidewalks and streets did commit a breach of
the peace in that they, together with a large group of
people, did assemble, impede the normal traffic, sing
and parade with placards, failed to disperse upon law
ful orders of police officers, all of which tended to vio
lation of the breach of peace in view of existing con
ditions. The Court will now read the persons charged
on these warrants: James C. West, Sinclair Salters,
Hezikah Johnson, James Clyburn, William Erick Moul
trie, David Carter, Benjamin James Clover, Samuel S.
Williams, Arthur Whitfield Stanley, Jr., Wendell Dai
ley, Lennie William Glover, Samuel Edwards, David
Laurence Perrett, James Allen Carter, Clifford James
Bice, Delbert Leon Woods, Wilbur Harrison Walker,
Alfred Odell Lemon, James W. Cantey, Isaac W. Wil
liams, Clifford B. Bell, William H. Cooley, Bobert
Henry LaPrince, Prank E. Gore, Earl Peters, Jr.,
Henry H. Harris, Charles B. Miller, Charles McDew,
Maxie Epps, Henry Williams, Leroy Hogans, Jimmy
Lee Smith, James Beeder, Jr., George Allen Ander
son, Thomas D. Hornsby and Anthony McFadden.
Are these persons present?
Mr. Jenkins: They are present in person or by coun
sel. One or two persons may not be present. One is
Benjamin J. Glover and William Moultrie from Cam
den, also, is not here. Those defendants, if Your Honor
please, they are represented by counsel. We would
like the record to show that counsel has agreed that
these defendants may be tried in their absence and
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629 they will be bound by whatever rules and decisions
that are made by the Court. Is that agreeable by coun
sel?
Mr. Coleman: Yes.
The Court: Are these persons represented by coun
sel?
Mr. Jenkins: Yes, they are.
The Court: As I call the names of these persons out,
will they appear before the Bench?
(The Court called the names of all defendants.)
Defendants arraigned before the Court.
The Court: Are you the persons named in this war
rant before the Court charged with the breach of the
peace in the City of Columbia, County of Richland, on
March 2nd, 1961 and were you released on bond to
appear before this Court today?
Defendants: Yes, sir (in unison).
The Court: How do the defendants plead?
Mr. Jenkins: They plead not guilty.
Defendants returned to seats in courtroom.
63i The Court: Is the defense ready for trial?
Mr. Jenkins: Yes, Your Honor.
The Court: Is the State ready for trial?
Mr. Coleman: Yes, Your Honor.
Whereupon, Mr. Coleman called Irving G. M cN ayr
who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:
D i r e c t E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Mr. McNayr, you are the City Manager of Co
lumbia, I believe?
A. Yes, I am.
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Q. As such City Manager, do yon have direct snper- m
vision of the activities of the Columbia City Police
Department?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. Did yon have occasion on March the 2nd last to
be in the vicinity of the State House grounds in the
City of Columbia?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. What time did you arrive there?
A. At the State House grounds, I arrived at approx
imately a quarter of twelve.
Q. What did you observe when you got there?
A. When we arrived there, when we first arrived, I
observed a number of police officials, both from the
City of Columbia and the State Law Enforcement Di
vision, possibly some Deputy Sheriffs from the Coun
ty, standing generally around what is known as the
horseshoe area.
Q. Would you describe the horseshoe area so far
as pedestrian traffic lanes and vehicular traffic lanes
are concerned?
A. Yes. The horseshoe area is used primarily for 635
the parking of State official’s cars, that is, the macadam
area there. There is some passage in and out of vehic
ular traffic by people entering and leaving the State
Capitol Building. In addition to that, you have the
main sidewalk areas leading into the State Capitol
on either side of the horseshoe area.
Q. Others than the persons you have just mentioned,
the police officers and yourself, were there any other
persons in or about the horseshoe? I
A. None, to my knowledge, at the time of my arrival. 4jg
There may have been a few others standing around
but I didn’t pay any particular attention to them.
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687 Q- What, if anything, occurred thereafter to make
you think possibly whether or not some official action
on your part should be taken?
A. We were forewarned that there would be a march
or a procession on the State Capitol and a demonstra
tion at that point. Soon after we arrived, we observed
groups of Negro students marching up Gervais Street.
Q. Could you estimate the size of the group?
A. I estimated it at that time at approximately 200.
Q. Did they enter the horseshoe?
A. They moved up the sidewalk towards the horse-
638 shoe and they were met, just before entering the
grounds, by Mr. Harry Walker of the Governor’s of
fice.
Q. Were you present at that time?
A. Yes, I was.
Q. Do you remember that any of the defendants
named today were in the group ?
A. Yes, I recognized probably three or four of those
people who are here today.
Q. Can you name one possibly?
639 A. I recognized the recognized leader, David Carter.
Q. Did you have any conversation with David Carter
at that time?
A. Not at that immediate time when he arrived, no.
Q. What official position, if any, does Harry Walker
have?
A. Mr. Harry Walker is the representative, the legal
representative of the Governor of South Carolina and
was apparently in charge of the SLED officers present
at that time, and in general charge of the State House
640 grounds, in general control of it.
Q. State whether or not you have any personal
knowledge of whether any official instructions from a
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police officer were given to any one or all of these de-
fendants.
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, at this time we
object on the ground that the best evidence would be
the testimony from the officer which may have given
such instructions, that is, testimony directly from this
officer, and we object to this witness testifying as to
instructions given by anyone else.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, any instruc
tions given to any of these defendants here, within the
hearing and presence of this witness, I think it’s ad
missible and, if it’s hearsay, it’s an exception to the 642
hearsay rule.
Mr. Jenkins: We submit, if Your Honor please, that
the best evidence would be the officers themselves, pres
ent to testify as to what instructions they may have
given. There is no showing to be made in the court why
the officers themselves are not here to testify and we
object to any testimony along that line.
The Court: The Court feels that, in this particular
instance, the defendants here have been identified by
the witness and, in this case, the objection is overruled, sis
A. Would you repeat your question?
Q. Did you, yourself, have any conversation with
any one of these particular defendants here today?
A. I did not, at the time in question. All the conver
sation and instructions were between Mr. Walker and
some of the defendants.
Q. Did you hear Mr. Walker give any official in
structions to any particular defendant here today?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Do you remember which defendant? ^
A. Well, I know Carter was one of those who re
ceived instructions.
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Q- Were these instructions given in your presence?
A. They were, if I may describe the manner m which
they were given I think it would he helpful to the
Court. As the groups moved forward, and these Negro
students were in groups of anywhere from fifteen on
up to thirty, Mr. Walker selected the lead student, on
the left coming up Gervais, thinking in terms of that
person leading the group, and he gave instructions di
rectly to that person. He first questioned him as to
his name, purpose for being there, whether or not he
was leading the group and then instructed them on
648 the fact that he did have the privilege, he and his small
group, of going through the State House grounds, just
as any other citizens would have. He further instructed
him that there should be no demonstration, in each
case, in my hearing, that the State law allowed no dem
onstrations. I heard the defendants, the leaders, reply
that they were there for the purpose of demonstrating
and fully intended to do so. Mr. Walker then instructed
them that they could go through the State House
grounds and they did proceed to do so. I believe he
Mr also told them they would be allowed to go through
the State House grounds one time for purposes of ob
servation.
Mr. Jenkins: Your Honor, at this time, I ’d like to
renew my objection as to all of this line of questioning
and the testimony that is in answer to the question
which has been presented here and I ask that they be
stricken from the record. I am repeating my objection.
That is strictly hearsay and violates the well known
rule of law against hearsay evidence on the ground
that the best evidence would require that Mr. Harry
648 Walker, who is the person who gave the instructions,
to be present and testify for the record as to the
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instructions he gave. The record will show that the
witness has testified as to what he thinks the opinion
of Mr. Walker was in giving such instructions. We re
new our objection to this entire line of questioning and
we respectfully request that the answer be stricken
from the record.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, I don’t remem
ber any evidence of Mr. McNayr’s opinion.
Mr. Jenkins: Mr. McNayr said that in pointing out
the person on the left, taking that person to be a leader
or something to that effect.
Mr. Coleman: We are perfectly willing, if there was
any opinion in the evidence in regard to the opinion
of Mr. Walker, that it be stricken. I don’t remember
that.
The Court: The Court is under the impression that
was an opinion and that will be stricken from the rec
ord. As to the previous objection, that is overruled.
Q. Mr. McNayr, what course of action, if any, did
the group of students then take?
A. They then proceeded to go through the State
House grounds, usually accompanied by a police of
ficer or officers.
Q. How long did this continue?
A. I would say for somewhere between fifteen—a
half hour.
Q. Where were you during this time? Were you in
the vicinity of the horseshoe or were you moving about
the State House grounds?
A. I was not moving about the State House grounds.
I remained in the vicinity of the horseshoe, moving
back and forth, primarily between from in front of the
statue, then west to the other side of the horseshoe.
Q. Then, you were in the horseshoe all of this time?
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A. Yes.
Q. State whether or not yon noticed or saw any
change in the size of the number of persons who might
or might not have been within the horseshoe area?
A. Yes. Soon after the Negro students arrived at
the entrance to the horseshoe, crowds began to gather.
This was in the neighborhood of twelve o’clock, noon,
just prior to twelve o’clock, noon, and more and more
people gathered within that area to the point where
they were blocking both of the driveway entrances
and the sidewalk area. They had to be told to move
along, not to impede the sidewalk traffic, and it was nec
essary to station a policeman in the intersection of
Gervais and Main Streets in order to keep traffic mov
ing, because, again, a large group of persons attracted
the passers-by in automobiles.
Q. Did you note the traffic, if any, which was on
Gervais Street, immediately adjacent to the horseshoe?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Are you familiar with the normal flow of traffic
on that street?
A. Yes, I ’m quite familiar with it.
Q. Was the traffic flow at that time normal?
A. It was not normal—no, it was greatly slowed up.
It had to be kept moving by a police officer. It was
greatly slowed up, again, being attracted by the large
group on the State House grounds. Normally, the
lights control the traffic quite well.
Q. After a period of approximately a half hour or
during that period, did any police officer or any one
else, to your knowledge, interfere with this group of
students ?
A. Not to my knowledge, no.
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Q. After the period of a half an hour, approximately
a half an hour, which you have just mentioned, what
action, if any was taken by you?
A. Following the students marching through or
walking through the State House grounds, they, then,
or a great number of them, came around from the back
of the State House or the side of the State House and
started to forming groups to come down Gervais Street,
heading each towards the horseshoe, and by that time
a great number of people had gathered in the horse
shoe area, along the State House grounds in that im
mediate vicinity, particularly across the street on both
sides of Main Street, facing the horseshoe area. It was,
at that time—now, I can be exect in my time—it was
just about a quarter to one when the students began
to gather there. The crowd had reached such propor
tions and there were numerous people coming through
the State House grounds, apparently from the State
Office buildings in the rear of the Capitol itself, who
were being impeded in getting through, a number of
them stopping as a result of it, so, that, in my judg
ment, I felt that the conditions were such that the stu
dents, who were the main attraction to all of these peo
ple, should disperse. I, then, was in touch with David
Carter, the recognized leader of this group, and I in
structed him that I felt that the conditions were such
that the students should disperse in small groups from
the area and that I felt that the conditions were such
that they should be dispersed within the next fifteen
minutes. These instructions were given at approxi
mately five minutes of one. Carter, then, as each group
moved forward, did not carry out my instructions in
the manner in which I gave them. He used the occasion
to harangue the students, to raise them to a fever pitch,
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using a chant, a religious type method for arousing
the students to stay in line, to be arrested, if that was
their chosen line.
Q. Did you hear any singing, chanting or anything
of that nature from the student group?
A. Yes.
Q. Describe that as best you can.
A. With the harangues, which I have just described,
witnessed frankly by everyone present and in this area,
the students began answering back with shouts. They
became boisterous. They stomped their feet. They sang
662 in loud voices to the point where, again, in my judg
ment, a dangerous situation was really building up.
Q. Did the students disperse after the instructions
were given to them?
A. No, they did not.
Q. What course of action was then taken by you?
A. I then instructed the Chief of Police, Chief Camp
bell, to proceed to arrest all of the students. I might
add that the SLED officers were working in conjunction
with and in cooperation with the City Police officers,
ess and they, too, moved under those general instructions.
Q. I see. Your witness.
C r o s s E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Jenkins:
Q. You have stated, Mr. McNayr, that you had ad
vanced warning that these students would move on the
State House grounds on that particular day?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Would you state how much advance warning you
had ?
664 A. Yes. I received a telephone call from Chief Camp
bell at approximately 10:30 that morning informing
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me that the students were then in the process of meet
ing at the Zion Baptist Church and that, his informa
tion was, that they planned to proceed from there to
the State House grounds for the purpose of demon
stration.
Q. And they actually proceeded to the State House
grounds possibly how long after 10:30?
A. I would say they came out of the church at some
time between quarter past eleven and half past eleven,
then proceeded to walk.
Q. You had approximately an hour’s notice?
A. Yes.
Q. You had ample time, didn’t you, to get ample po
lice protection, if you thought such was needed on the
State House grounds, didn’t you?
A. Yes, we did.
Q. So, if there were not ample police protection
there, it was the fault of those persons in charge of
the Police Department, wasn’t it?
A. There was ample police protection there.
Q. There was ample police protection and there was
no need for the arrests which were made, isn’t that
true ?
A. No, that is not true.
Q. I believe that the testimony has been that you
arrested these persons because a dangerous situation
was about to take place or something to that effect?
A. In my judgment.
Q. You also stated that, in your judgment, you had
ample police protection to handle the situation?
A. That’s correct.
Q. So it wasn’t necessary to arrest these students
that were on the Grounds?
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A. Yes, it was necessary to arrest them. Simply be
cause we had ample policemen there for their pro
tection and the protection of others, is no reason for
not placing them under arrest when they refused a
lawful request to move on.
Q. We are not charged with refusing an order.
A. You are charged with a breach of the peace and it
occurred during this period.
Q. Breach of peace being merely that the students
came on the grounds and there registered certain pro
tests which they had; that, in your mind, is a breach of
the peace?
A. No, that isn’t what I testified.
Q. Now, I believe your testimony was to the effect
that no police officer interfered in any manner with the
students or something to that effect?
A. I said, to the best of my knowledge, that they did
not. You must understand that they were moving
around the State Capitol Grounds.
Q. That’s what I was getting at. You confined your
activities mostly to the horseshoe area?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And since the State House Grounds cover ap
proximately two blocks by one block—
A. Probably about two blocks square.
Q. There was ample opportunity for other police
officers to really interfere with these students and you
know nothing about it?
A. That is true.
Q. You observed the students coming eastward on
Gervais Street or approaching the State Capitol?
A. Yes.
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Q. At that time, you said they were marching in
groups, small groups?
,A. They were marching in groups of from fifteen,
the largest approximately thirty.
Q. They were walking two abreast or single file?
A. Two abreast.
Q. Do you recall the approximate distance between
each group?
A. Well, as they were walking, I would say certainly
at arm’s length or possibly a greater distance. I think
the distances were varying.
Q. The distances between the groups themselves—
let us say, the first group and the second group and
the second and the third?
A. As they were marching up, they could have been
five feet or ten feet apart.
Q. I believe your testimony on previous occasions
said they were from a quarter to a third of a block
apart, the groups, do you recall that?
A. I don’t recall any testimony by me to that effect.
They may well have been, however, but it would vary
as they marched along.
Q. Now, each group was stopped, I believe you testi
fied, up near the horseshoe area?
A. That’s correct.
Q. They were stopped by an official of the Governor
of South Carolina?
A. That’s correct.
Q. You were also present at that time as an official of
the City of Columbia?
A. Yes.
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Q. Was the effect of your stopping these groups of
377 '*•' istudents to make the second group, let us say, push up
into the first group or at least get nearer?
A. Yes, to move up.
Q. That would make the third group move up to
where the second group was?
A. Again, I think they kept a normal distance.
Q. It is a fact, is it not, that by the interference of
you and other officials you created the very situation
that you said you were trying to prevent?
A. No, that is not true.
678 '
Q. You have testified to the congestion of the area
of the horseshoe?
A. Yes.
Q. Had these students been allowed to continue in
the manner in which they had approached the horse
shoe area, this congestion would not have been there,
would it?
A. That I can’t answer because they were not al
lowed to continue by Mr. Walker.
679 Q- So, you certainly, by your actions, contributed to
whatever congestion there may have been there in that
area?
A. I think you misunderstood my testimony. I did
not have anything to say to the students or instruct
them in any way at that point.
Q. When I say “you” I mean the official action by
someone, instructing these groups of students in the
horseshoe area, there would not have been this con
gestion ?
A. Yes, there would have been congestion. A group
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placards as they carried, would cause congestion just
naturally.
Q. There was no congestion among the groups of
students themselves, was there, prior to the official ac
tion stopping them in the horseshoe?
A. No.
Q. Now, then, your testimony here is that the groups
were allowed to walk through the area of the State
House Grounds without further molestation, as far as
you are concerned?
A. That was not a molestation; that was simply
stopping them to give them instructions on the part of
Mr. Walker.
Q. Here again, we are involved in the use or the
meaning of words—according to which side of the
fence you are on, the meaning of it?
A. I wanted to get across my interpretation of it.
Q. Yes, sir. Now, then, they walked perhaps through
the area of the State House Grounds—did they end up
down near the area of Sumter Street?
A. Yes, as nearly as I could determine, they moved
down Sumter Street and then back on to Gervais and
down.
Q. Then started westward on Gervais back towards
the horseshoe area?
A. Yes.
Q. Still in these relatively small groups, they started
Avest ?
A. Yes.
Q. Once they approached the horseshoe area, as a
matter of fact, as they got to the horseshoe area the
second time that is Avhen you gave instructions to ar
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A. No, that was when I informed their leader, David
686 JCarter, that they should he dispersed, that, in my judg
ment, the situation was becoming tense and then I
asked him to instruct them that they were given fifteen
minutes and then they should disperse.
Q. That’s when each group was stopped again?
A. Yes, they had moved down on the sidewalk and
stopped.
Q. But the various groups were stopped again,
that’s the second time they were stopped as they got
back to the horseshoe area!
6;S A. On that occasion, I wouldn’t say they were
stopped. They apparently stopped voluntarily. Now,
Carter may have stopped them. I was adjacent to him.
Q. You certainly stopped Carter in the first group
that he was leading at that time, didn’t you?
A. Carter was not leading the group. Carter was
also situated in the area where I was standing. He was
moving back in that area. To my knowledge, he did
not proceed through the State House Grounds with any
group.
187 Q. At any rate, you gave him instructions to give
to the groups of students?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And, following your instructions, he then stopped
the groups?
A. Each group.
Q. Here, again, if there were a congestion of the
students, it came about at that time, isn’t it true?
A. Yes.
Q. So, because of your interference there was this
congestion which you now say you were trying to pre
vent, is that not right?
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jA. That is not true. Yon are attempting to nse words
again which are not given the true connotation. As the
lawful officer of the City of Columbia, as City Manager,
I felt it my duty to see that this situation, as created by
the students themselves, be dispersed for their safety
and for the safety of the general public of Columbia.
Now, I don’t believe the word “ interference” is at all
a sound and useful word in this case.
Q. I have no quarrel with why you acted, no quarrel
with that at all, I ’m merely trying to get the results of
your action and you have testified that they were ap
proaching in relatively small groups and, after you
gave certain instructions to be relayed to them, they
were then stopped and the end result was the various
groups lost their identity and comingled as one large
group !
A. No, I ’m not testifying to that at all.
Q. What are you saying!
A. I ’m saying that they retained their identity in
groups in that area, in small groups still, to the best
of my knowledge, and then in those small groups, after
being harangued, they burst into singing, shouting and
stomping and so on.
Q. They still remain in small groups!
A. Relatively small groups but more closely bunched
than in the past.
Q. Prior to the time when you gave your instructions
to David Carter, there had been no singing or loud
noises from the students, is that true!
A. Not to my knowledge. Again, these were out of
earshot, as far as I was concerned.
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Q. This stomping, which you have talked about, and
shouting, prior to your giving instructions to David
Carter, there had been none of that?
A. Again, not to my knowledge.
Q. So, that, to your knowledge, the groups of stu
dents, prior to this time, were orderly and peaceful?
A. Yes.
Q. All indications were that they would have con
tinued to be orderly and peaceful had they not stopped
David Carter and given him certain instructions to be
relayed to them? Was that a normal thing?
A. That’s purely conjectural on your part.
Q. Would you agree to that conjecture?
A. No. I have no idea whether they would have been
or not.
Q. There was no evidence to the contrary, prior to
that time, was there?
A. No evidence to the contrary in any other manner
as to how they would react.
Q. Nevertheless, they had been peaceful and quiet
prior to that time?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, would you care to state for the record what
caused anxiety on your part for the safety of these
students and for the safety of the general public?
A. Yes, I ’d be quite willing to. As I observed the
crowds gathering, both in the horseshoe area, on the
State House Grounds, I would estimate that in ad
dition to the students there were 200 to 250 people in
the general horseshoe area. On the other side of Ger-
vais, the two entrances to Main coming into Gervais, I
would estimate that there were probably a like number
beginning to congregate over there. Traffic was being
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slowed np and becoming congested. I observed in the
group around the area what I would describe as pos
sible trouble making people and it was my judgment
and remains my judgment that we might well, had the
conditions been allowed to continue, were the students
allowed to again march through the State House
Grounds, had they been allowed to remain on the side
walk area, we might well have had violence.
Q. You base that only on the fact that you saw
trouble makers in the area, potential trouble makers!
A. Not only saw trouble makers but I know that
whenever you have a large group gathering, all that
is necessary is one minor incident or one minor spark
and this could have resulted in a real race riot in that
area.
Q. Have you ever observed Armed Forces Day when
there was a parade down Main Street and the large
number of Whites and Negroes together there!
A. Yes, indeed.
Q. Did you expect any race riot then!
A. None whatsoever.
Q. Much larger groups than you had here so it
wasn’t the fact that you had Negroes and Whites there
together that you were expecting a riot.
A. The facts were that you had these students and
you had a congestion during the parades you have dis
cussed when Negroes and Whites were mingling to
gether with a common purpose; this was not a common
purpose for which they were gathering on this day.
Q. Did you observe any placards which the students
were carrying! A
A. I did.
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m Q. Would you care to say what the general tone or
wording on the placards was?
A. I really can’t remember what they were.
Q. Generally, would you say that those placards ex
pressed some feelings or opinions in regards to cer
tain conditions that existed?
A. Yes.
Q. Those conditions were conditions of segregation
and discrimination as felt by the students?
A. As felt by the students.
702 Q. Is it not a fact that you feared violence because
you feared there may be persons in the group ivho dis
agreed with the opinion expressed by those Negro
students ?
A. No, that wasn’t the basis for my action. My fear
was that there would be violence because of the feel
ings of many of the people in the groups against the
demonstrations themselves, not necessarily what they
were protesting against.
Q. You don’t mean that you feared there would be
T03 violence because of disagreement of certain persons
in the area with the fact that there were Negro stu
dents in that area?
A. In the manner in which they were there. I ’m sure
that Negro students have gone through the State
House Grounds over the years but not in this manner
and not with the intent of collecting a crowd and
demonstrating.
Q. And not with the evident intent of protesting
against certain policies and practices? Would you also
704 say that?
A. Yes.
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Q. Does it not follow that each potential trouble
maker in the area perhaps also disagreed—
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, I don’t
like to object. How could Mr. McNayr possibly know
what thoughts were in the minds of the people in the
crowd? We could go on forever with this. He has al
ready stated that, thinking that the demonstration
should be stopped after a long period of time, and
going into a continuous line of questioning, which
involves the thoughts of the people in the crowd, is
just utterly ridiculous.
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor pleases, this witness is
on cross examination, stating his reasons for making
certain arrests and I ’m merely questioning him as to
his reasons and trying to find out what laid the basis
for these arrests. We submit that, as an official of the
government of the City of Columbia, being in charge
of the Police Department, he has certain rights. He has
the right to see that these conditions, which he thinks
may have arisen, do not arise but certainly he cannot
just form that opinion just out of a clear blue sky, so
to speak. He must base it upon some knowledge which
has come to his attention or some opinion which he may
form and we submit that on cross examination we have
a right to delve into these matters.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, may I sav one
more word? There is no objection whatever to counsel
cross examining Mr. McNayr with regard to the rea
sons but he is now asking Mr. McNayr to go into the
minds of the crowd out there and tell us what that
crowd was thinking. It’s fantastic.
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The Court: The Court has previously overruled a
few minutes ago that opinions be stricken from the
record—
Mr. Jenkins: Before you rule, Your Honor, I should
like to state this, the witness on the stand has testi
fied, both in direct and on cross examination, that he
acted to prevent certain occurrences which he thought
may take place. His whole action was based upon
thought. Now, thought based on what? He has not testi
fied to any overt act on anybody in the crowd. He has
testified that he acted because he thought they may do
something and certainly I am bound to question him as
to what gave him reasons to believe that these would
take place.
The Court: The Court is of opinion that you can
cross examine the witness hut as to the opinions of
other people, I believe that was your objection, that is
sustained.
Q. It was testified, Mr. McNayr, that on occasions,
such as, the parade, I believe you were talking about,
there were persons both White and Negro acting with a
common purpose and everything was peaceful?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you mean to state now that whenever there
is a common purpose, on the part of Negroes, that
there are some Whites around, that violence will nec
essarily follow? You don’t mean to say that, do you?
A. I ’m afraid you’re trying to twist the whole thing.
Q. Certainly, I ’m not. I ’m trying to get in the record
what led to the arrest of these persons on that day and
the arrest certainly interfered with certain rights
which they had. That’s what I ’m trying to get out.
A. May I answer in my own words?
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Q. Certainly.
A. I think I have stated the reasons. There is in ex
istence in this city, in this area, at the present time,
well known to yon and to these Negro students a feel
ing of tenseness in the racial situation. This was known
to these students prior to their coming to town. I have
discussed this with the recognized leader, David Car
ter, on numerous occasions. They were fully aware of
these conditions. They are fully aware of the fact that
when a crowd gathers, such as gathered on this oc
casion, on the basis of this demonstration, that they
are subjecting themselves to violence, as well as the
people in the immediate area. Mr. Attorney, you know
that as well as I do. Under these conditions, at higli
noon on that day, those people moving out of the State
Offices, people going to lunch generally, the possibility
of University students being let out at that time and
coming through that area, I acted and I think I acted
soundly and in the best interest of the citizens of Co
lumbia and the students, and that is the basis for my
action.
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, I did not stop
Mr. McNayr when he was expressing opinions which
I have and thoughts which I had and which these stu
dents on that day had and, in view of Your Honor’s
rulings, otherwise we respectfully submit that all of
that answer should be stricken from the record because
it was based strictly on conjecture as to what Mr. Mc
Nayr thinks and what I thought and what he thinks
and what the public thinks.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, counsel has
expressed some objection to something that is a techni-
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cal point. Are you objecting to the testimony which
you drew out of the witness?
Mr. Jenkins: I still, if Your Honor please, move that
the answer be stricken.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor pleases, this question
was not asked by me on direct examination. Counsel
asked the question. He could have objected at any time.
I have never in my life heard of any procedure in any
courtroom where counsel elicits an answer from a wit
ness, listens to it without objection and then turns
around and asks that the answer be stricken. To my
718 knowledge, there’s no such rule of law. I ’d like to be
educated to that.
The Court: Objection overruled.
Q. Would you acknowledge that the students on that
day acted with a common purpose, the students that
you arrested?
A. They were acting with a common purpose.
Q. Would you agree that their common purpose was
to protest against what they considered racial dis
crimination?
7 1 9 A -VTA. Yes.
Mr. McNayr, did you see any overt act on the part
of any of these persons in the crowd which would tend
towards violence?
A. No, I saw no overt act.
Q. Did you hear any remarks from any members of
the crowd which would lead you to believe that there
may be violence on the part of any of these students ?
A. Not to my personal knowledge.
O. Now, you have testified that you can identify
some of the present defendants as having been in-
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volved in the situation on March the 2nd, which led to
the arrest of all of them?
A. Yes.
Q. There are, I believe, thirty-six defendants before
the Court today. They are sitting generally on the first
three or four rows of this are of the courtroom. (In
dicating.)
A. Yes.
Q. Would you care to point out those defendants
among this group that you recognize as having been
involved in this situation on that day?
A. I cannot identify all of them by name. I can iden
tify them as having seen them there.
Q. You can identify thirty odd of these defendants
as you have a conscious recollection of having seen
them on that day?
A. No, I did not testify in that manner at all. I have
testified that out of this group I recognize two or three
as having been there.
Q. I wonder if you would care to point out those two
or three in this group that you recognize as having
participated in the activities on the day in question?
A. Yes. I can point out David Carter, who is
thoroughly familiar to me. He is smiling now. I can
pick out the very young fellow in the hack, second from
the left, up there in the fourth row and I can pick out
this fellow—well, I can pick out four or five. This
youn fellow sitting on the front, on the left, and also
I can pick out Williams, I believe he’s a defendant this
morning.
Q. Sitting near to Reverend Carter?
A. Oh, yes, he’s sitting behind the other attorney.
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Q. That’s about five or six. That’s about three more
than I thought you could.
A. I ’m doing very well.
Q. Now, you have testified as to activities of David
Carter on that day. Now, would you care to testify as
to what specific acts you saw these other persons doing
that you were able to pick out ?
A. The others were in these relatively small groups
with the exception of—I can’t recall whether Williams
was in a group or whether he was something of Car
ter’s Chief Lieutenant, and I believe he was moving
726 around, maybe he was one of the Captains, I don’t
know.
Q. I think you know Reverend Carter and Williams
quite well!
A. I do. I ’ve seen a great deal of him and I ’ve also
seen Williams, too.
Q. Now, can you pick out Williams as having been
singing and yelling and stomping his feet and shout
ing?
A. I don’t think I can. Again, he was so active in
727 carrying out instructions, I guess, that I can’t identify
him as being one of a group.
Q. Now, the other four or five students, can you
point out specifically any acts of shouting, screaming,
yelling?
A. On the part of those individuals?
Q. Yes.
A. No, I cannot.
Q. So, then, you cannot find any of these defendants
72g as having done any of these specific acts which you
have described, which led to the charge of breach of the
peace on March the 2nd?
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A. Yes, I can. Carter.
Q. With the exception of Carter?
A. Very definitely, but the others I can only identify
them as being in these various groups who did this
sort of thing, but not as individuals.
Q. Insofar as the defendant Carter is concerned, the
misconduct on his part was that he harangued, did
you say?
A. He was a very active fellow that morning, in
addition to organizing, keeping them all in line, issuing
instructions, generally, to them upon my instructions
to him, to have the group dispersed, then he proceeded
with his harangue or whatever you wish to call it.
Q. I don’t like that word “harangue” , but I don’t
know a better word to use.
A. I think that describes it pretty well.
Q. I take no exception to that. Prior to that time,
was David Carter apparently trying to keep the peace,
to keep down confusion among the persons in his
group? You say he was generally issuing instructions?
A. Yes. Again, if I may use my own words, these
people came to the Grounds in orderly fashion—I ’ve
testified to this. They were reasonably well dressed.
There was no profanity, no jeering. They had ap
parently been well instructed as to how they should be
have. I assume that Dave Carter was seeing to it that
they kept that way during this parade.
Q. That was the impression he gave you?
A. That was the impression he gave me on this oc
casion and on previous occasions.
Q. The situation, then, so far as he and his group
were concerned, got out of his hand after you had is
sued certain instructions?
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A. After I had told him that in my judgment the
group must he dispersed and apparently that really set
him off.
Q. You did not identify any of these defendants as
having crowded anyone else off the sidewalk or having
blocked any vehicular traffic?
A. Not as individuals, no, but on occasions they were
filing back and forth across these areas and I ’m cer
tain some people were blocked out.
Q. There is, then, a possibility that some of these
defendants may have been bystanders rather than ac
tive participants in the so-called gathering?
A. Oh, there is that possibility. Again, we have po
lice arrest records, identification cards on each one of
these people. It would be impossible for me to identify
these individuals.
Q. The records which you have are based only on
records—in fact, they are the original records at the
arrest of these individuals when they were carried
down to City Jail?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, you, on that day, in this situation, you made
no arrest of any one except these student defendants?
,A. That’s right.
Q. With the exception of one young man’s name?
A. Yes, of my own knowledge, I knew nothing of the
arrest of that boy, really, until very late in the evening.
Q. Frankly, you don’t know whether he participated
the activities or not?
A. No, I don’t. I never saw him, as a matter of fact.
Q. Now, with reference to some of these potential
trouble makers, there was no arrest of any of them?
A. No, there was not.
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Q. Of your own knowledge, do you know of any of
these Negro defendants in this group or other groups
who you would call trouble makers'?
A. Not in the sense that I was using the word pre
viously, No.
Q. You don’t know, of your own knowledge, of any
instance when they have participated in any act of
violence?
A. No.
Q. Do you know of any instance where they have
urged any act of violence?
A. No, I do not.
Q. I believe you are generally familiar with the
overall movement, as expressed by these defendants,
throughout the City of Columbia for the past year?
A. I am quite familiar with it.
Q. Do you know, of your own knowledge, of any vio
lence on the part of any of those Negro participants in
those activities?
A. No, I do not.
Q. And would you say that these defendants are
typical of the other persons involved in the same
group, in your experience throughout the past year?
A. Yes, I would.
Mr. Jenkins: No further questions.
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Counsel has very skillfully drawn from you part
of your reasoning, part of the reasons behind your
action in having to do with the arrest, which was that
you feared possible violence there, but there was other
testimony that you just gave as to the blocking of the
streets and the sidewalks. Did these factors enter into
your decision to stop the demonstration?
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A. Yes, they did.
Q. Materially!
A. Yes, very materially.
(Witness excused.)
The Court: We will take a five minute recess.
(Court reconvened.)
Whereupon, Mr. Coleman called Joseph Barnett
who, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:
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By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Mr. Barnett, what is your full name, please!
A. Joseph P. Barnett.
Q. Are you a resident of Columbia!
A. I am.
Q. What is your occupation?
A. I am a Reporter for The State newspaper.
Q. Did you have occasion—
A. First, Mr. Coleman, I ’d like to point out that I
7« was subpoenaed to appear here today.
Q. Yes, you were subpoenaed by the Attorney Gen
eral’s Office, by me, is that correct!
A. That is correct.
Q. Did you have occasion on last March the 2nd, at
any time during the day, to be in the vicinity of the
State House grounds in the City of Columbia!
A. Yes, sir.
Q. At what time did you arrive, if you remember?
A. I arrived there probably at 12:35, probably 12:33
or 12:34 or 12:35.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, would counsel
agree that I might refer to the group of students, here-
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tofore identified, about which there has been testimony,
without going into the full thing?
Mr. Jenkins: Go ahead.
Q. Did you see the group of students about which
previous witnesses have testified on the grounds that
day?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you see any placards being carried by these
students ?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you remember what any of the placards said
or one or none at all?
A. Two of them stand out in my mind.
Q. I notice that you are using notes, Mr. Barnett.
Were those notes made by you?
A. They were made by me. I was acting as a re
porter at that time.
Q. Made by you at the time?
A. At the time. One girl, Negro girl, was carrying a
plac which got my attention and I wrote it down. It
said: “You may jail our bodies but not our souls” .
Q. Do you remember any other placards?
A. There was another placard, of which I ordered a
photograph to be taken, which said words similar to
that about going to jail for freedom and I had a pho
tograph of that placard made.
Q. At what point of time approximately, with ref
erence to the arrival of these students on the State
House grounds, did you observe the two signs, if you
remember? Was it when they first got there or after
wards ?
A. I can determine that very closely from my notes
because my notes have times in them, and I wrote down
that placard “You may jail our bodies but not our
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m souls” within two or three minutes after I wrote down
12:35, and 12:35 was the time that this group arrived
at the horseshoe for what ensued.
Q. Were you in and about the horseshoe the entire
period of time in which the students were on the State
House grounds?
A. I was. I left when a large group was marched off
to the City Jail. I left in an automobile at that time.
Q. Did you observe the horseshoe area itself from
time to time?
A. I was in it, around it, all over it.
™ Q. Would you describe the area with reference to
the presence or absence of any large number of per
sons?
A. As has been previously testified, this was near
lunch time and there were a lot of State employees
there; there were a lot of shoppers and there was this
large group, which I had previously counted down at
Zion Baptist Church as being 188 in number, but I
must have miscounted, but they were on the grounds,
all in the horseshoe area, all at one time there. They
m were met at the entrance to the horseshoe as they came
up from Zion Baptist Church and there were groups
of them coming up as another group was coming
around. They were all over the area there.
Q. Mr. Barnett, with regard to the presence or ab
sence of any other persons who did not appear to be
included in the student group, describe your observa
tions as to them, if there were any?
A. I noticed over on the corners by the Carolina Life
Building and by the Wade Hampton Hotel, I noticed
T52 that there were a number of white persons beginning
to congregate. I noticed the traffic policeman, that the
City Manager has testified to, had been placed in the
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intersection. The automobiles were slowing down at
the intersection and the monument, that is in the mid
dle of the horseshoe, there were probably fifteen to
twenty-five people standing on the little steps that
lead up to the monument getting an overall view. There
were State officials, police, State employees in the
horseshoe area. There were many State employees up
on the State House porch on both sides, both the North
Main Street and the South Main Street sides.
Q. With regard to the sidewalks along each side of
the horseshoe and the lanes for vehicular traffic on
each side of the monument, would you describe any
persons, if there were any in those areas ?
A. The parking lot itself was full with automobiles
leaving very little space on the driving portion for
people but there were people congregating there. There
were persons congregating on the sidewalks them
selves, just standing by watching.
C r o s s E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Sampson:
Q. Mr. Barnett, did you notice any other signs,
other than the two that you mentioned a moment ago?
A. I made an estimate, at the time, and I estimated
that probably in these groups, there were probably
three signs to a group of fifteen or twenty, which car
ried all sorts of slogans, some were big and some were
small. They were all generally handwritten, looked
like they had been made in a hurry.
Q. Did it have anything to do with discrimination
or anything about that?
A. Oh, yes.
Q. Let me ask you this, sir. Were you present when
the first case was tried on March the 7th, I believe, of
this year?
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757 A. I was. The first case, I was present.
Q. Did I understand yon to say that yon are a news
paper reporter?
A. Right.
Q. What paper do you work for?
A. The State newspaper.
Q. Are you familiar with the policy of The State
newspaper?
A. Generally, yes.
Q. Is it their policy generally to permit—
Mr. Coleman: If Tour Honor please, that is entirely
7"s irrelevant and I object on that ground.
Q. I ’ll withdraw that. Did you or did you not write
an article for this newspaper having to do with this
aft air ?
A. Yes.
Q. So the truth of the matter is you had a judgment
before you appeared here now as a witness, a pre
judgment?
A. I am here to testify as to what I saw and ob
served. I have no pre-judgment.
759 Q. Isn’t it fair to say that you had a pre-judgment
of this matter because you had formed an opinion on
it before you were subpoenaed to appear here as a
witness? Isn’t that right?
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, I hate to keep
interrupting but the witness has not attempted to
qualify himself as an expert. He has given no opinion
in the evidence. He has merely testified to the physical
things that he saw there that day. I fail to follow the
questioning on his judgment.
760 Mr. Sampson: May it please the Court, I under
stand what Mr. Coleman is objecting to but I ’d like to
remind him that this is cross examination and I have
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a perfect right to ask him any question that might
show a bias or a pre-formed opinion. It’s on cross ex
amination and this is a reporter and he wrote about it
and we had a trial before he appeared here as a wit
ness and I think it’s perfectly competent to ask him
whether or not he had any pre-judgment about this
case before he appeared.
The Court: The witness has answered that he did
not. Objection sustained.
Q. How long have you been a reporter in Columbia,
Mr. Barnett?
A. I started with The State in 1945.
Q. 1945?
A. I took off three years for a little Army duty.
Q. You have had numerous occasions to observe the
horseshoe area at the State House grounds, haven’t
you?
A. Many times.
Q. And would it be fair to say that you are familiar
with the general traffic lights and signals in that area?
A. Yes.
Q. To your knowledge, they normally function per
fectly, don’t they, sir?
A. Yes.
Q. And, to your knowledge, I ask you whether or
not on this particular occasion were they functioning
normally?
A. That I can’t say. To watch those lights there,
you’d have to go to about five different positions to see.
if they were functioning normally.
Q. You have no reason to believe that they were not
functioning normally?
A. Oh, no.
Q. You’re not a traffic expert, are you?
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A. No.
Q. Would it be reasonable to assume that the lights
were functioning normally at the time you observed
this group or crowd, as you say?
A. It would be reasonable.
Mr. Coleman: That calls for an assumption on the
witness’ part by the words of the question itself. I will
stipulate that the traffic signals were working normally.
Mr. Sampson: At the time he was judging them? Is
that right?
Mr. Coleman: Yes.
Q. I ask you again: you were present at the first
trial, is that right?
A. Right.
Q. To the best of your recollection, did you or did
you not or do you or do you not recall any witness for
the State on that occasion saying that the traffic signals
were not observed?
A. Were not observed by the motorist?
Q. That’s right.
A. I generally remember somebody saying that traf
fic was not flowing at its normal rate, which would
mean that they were not being observed but that’s an
assumption on my part.
Q. The lights were not observed. By the way, this
was at a lunch hour, wasn’t it? This was during their
lunch hour?
A. Right.
Q. This is a heavily travelled intersection, isn’t it?
A. Right.
Q. Normally, the traffic is heavier then?
A. I presume it was just as normal as any other
lunch hour.
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Q. Isn’t it fair to say that the traffic at that time was
normal for that particular area?
A. Probably so.
Q. Now, since you’ve been here since 1945, what is
the largest crowd that you have observed on the State
House grounds in this area?
A. I think that would be Vice-President Nixon’s
rally, if I ’m not mistaken, at which he spoke.
Q. Last year?
A. Right. Prior to the election.
Q. You didn’t have any breaches of the peace aris
ing out of that, did you?
A. No, I think they had the Governor’s permission
to use the State House grounds.
Q. How large would you estimate that crowd to be,
sir?
A. I don’t remember exactly what it was. I flew over
it in an airplane.
Q. Would you say the traffic was under control on
that occasion, sir?
A. If I recall, the streets were blocked off at that
time.
Q. Oh, I see. By the way, this parking lot which you
observed as being full, isn’t it true that that parking
lot is normally full at that time of day?
A. With automobiles, yes.
Q. Now, let me ask you this, Mr. Barnett, do you
recall having seen any of these particular defendants
blocking the traffic or the sidewalks?
A. Oh, yes.
Q. Could you identify them?
A. Oh, yes.
Q. Would you care to identify them by pointing out
and having them stand up?
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A. Well, I can identify Carter and his lieutenant or
captain, Charles McDew, back there, the Reverend
Glover.
Q. Any more?
A. By name, I think that’s all I can recall right
now, but by face, I think I could give you ten or twelve
more.
Q. Now, I ask you, how were they blocking the side
walks or the traffic?
A. They were blocking the sidewalks on two occa
sions that I recall; first, when they arrived at the State
House and then after they had walked through the
State House grounds, they blocked it again just across
the horseshoe on Gervais.
Q. Did you observe any of these particular defend
ants doing that?
A. Oh, yes.
Q. Let me ask you this: when they arrived there, it
is my recollection of the testimony that they were given
permission to go around the State House grounds?
A. Right. They were given permission—this would
be hearsay testimony but Mr. Walker told them they
could go through the State House grounds once but—
this is a direct quote from my notes—“walking around
and around is a breach of the peace. You have no right
to go on these grounds for demonstration” . He told
that to Charles McDew, who I understand is a defend
ant today, at 12:35. After he had told those words to
Charles McDew, McDew then said “May I pass?”
Q. Other than the defendants which you named a
moment ago, did you observe any of the others block
ing traffic?
A. Like I say, on the two occasions when they first
arrived then after they had walked through the State
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House grounds, they sort of back-logged up there on
the Gervais Street end.
Q. Did you observe them they were in groups and
an officer was by each group?
A. Well, yes, that was generally after arrest that
the officer was by them. They were still in groups, some
large and some small, after arrest.
Q. You wouldn’t say that they were blocking the
traffic then in the custody of an officer?
A. Well, I think they were all generally lined up
single file and single file doesn’t black the traffic of the
State House walkways.
Mr. Sampson: That’s all. Thank you.
Mr. Coleman: No further questions.
(Witness excused.)
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, the State has
three more witnesses, Mr. L. J. Campbell, Chief of
Police of the City of Columbia, Mr. Dan F. Beckman,
Assistant Chief of South Carolina Law Enforcement
Division, Mr. A. C. Shorter, Jr., who is a member of
the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division. These
three men have testified at the two previous trials aris
ing out of this occasion and, with Your Honor’s per
mission, counsel has agreed to stipulate that their tes
timony here today would be substantially the same as
their previous testimony, including testimony by Chief
Campbell with regard to, I think, the vacation of the
warrants, the names contained in those warrants being
the names of persons arrested in the City of Columbia
on last March 2nd and who were a part of the group
of students. With Your Honor’s permission, counsel
will offer that testimony as stipulated testimony and
I will ask Chief Campbell to take the stand for one
question on cross examination.
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Mr. Jenkins: If it is agreeable with Your Honor, we
will so stipulate.
The Court: All right.
Whereupon, Chief L. J. Campbell was duly sworn
and testified as follows:
C r o s s E x a m m a t i o n
By Mr. Jenkins:
Q. Chief Campbell, would you identify, if any, every
one of these particular defendants present today who
"* committed any of the acts of blocking traffic, vehicular
and pedestrian and otherwise committing a breach of
the peace on March the 2nd, 1961?
A. Of course, I know a couple of them very person
ally, Dave Carter and Williams. Of course, the faces
are familiar and I would say that they were in the
group of the Negro students on March the 2nd.
Q. Are these two, whom you have named, those are
the only ones that you can positively identify?
A. That I could swear that they were there, except
tbs as their names were called on the warrants and they
appeared.
Mr. Jenkins: No further questions.
(Witness excused.)
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, do you have a
copy of the warrants of the previous trials ?
The Court: I can get them.
Mr. Coleman: I thought possibly we should read in
the record the trial that we had in mind. If Your Honor
please, I should like to place in the record that, with
7g4 regard to the stipulation of testimony, one of the trials
to which reference is made and in which testimony was
given by the three witnesses named was entitled T h e
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A. C. S horter, Jr. tob
S t a t e v e r s u s G e o r g e C l e v e l a n d F o s t e r , J a m e s J e r o m e
K i r t o n , I s a a c W a s h i n g t o n , R o l a n d J o h n n i e R h a m e s ,
J o s e p h R . B a i l e y , I s a a c J e r o m e C a m p b e l l , D a v i d G r e e n
a n d C h a r l e s F u l t o n B a r r , the trial of which case was
held in this court room on Tuesday, March the 13th,
and including also the first trial which arose out of
this matter involving these defendants and other Ne
gro students of the City of Columbia on March the 2nd,
1961. Is that agreeable?
Mr. Jenkins: The first trial was held on March 7th,
1961. 786
Mr. Coleman: One of the trials, the first, to which
reference is made in this stipulation, was entitled T h e
S t a t e v e r s u s J a m e s E d w a r d s , J r . , A l v e s t e r P a t e , J r . ,
P i n c k n e y M o s e l e y , M e l v i n R r o w n , J r . , H a r o l d E u g e n e
N i m m o n s . W i l l i e B o y k i n J o n e s , W i l l i a m P e r k i n s , B i l l
A l v i n S u l l i v a n , the trial of which was held in your
court on March 7th, 1961. The State has no further evi
dence, Your Honor. If Your Honor please, we did
agree that the other two witnesses would take the stand
for this same question that was asked of Chief Camp- n r
bell.
Whereupon, Mr. A. C. S horter, Jr., was duly sworn
and testified as follows:
C r o s s E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Jenkins:
Q. Mr. Shorter, I want to ask you if you will iden
tify any of the particular defendants on trial today
who you remember having taken part in the activities
on March the 2nd, 1961 and, if in the event you iden
tify any of these defendants, as having done any of
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these specific acts leading towards the charge of breach
of the peace against them, yon will state that also for
the record?
A. I can identify David Carter, McDew, his first
name I do not know offhand; I can pick him out if
yon like.
Q. These defendants are present?
A. McDew attends school in Orangeburg and he’s on
the third seat, hack on the left. I can identify him as
particularly breaching the peace. He led the first group
and was very belligerent as he went around, wanting
to go through the walkways, crisscross, in double file,
which I asked him not to do. He stopped on each walk
way and insisted that he do so. I told him he could go
through single file, in smaller groups, that’s McDew.
Q. I believe you also pointed out David Carter as
having done specific acts.
A. You asked me if I knew any of them by name and
I said I knew David Carter by name. I don’t remember
any specific act that David Carter did.
Q. Then, you know of no specific act that any of the
other individual defendants did on that date?
A. I can’t pick them out.
Mr. Jenkins: I have no further questions.
Mr. Coleman: No questions.
(Witness excused.)
Whereupon, Chief D an F. B eckman was duly sworn
and testified as follows:
C r o s s E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Jenkins:
Q. Chief Beckman, I know in the beginning you will
recognize at least two of the defendants on trial today.
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Now, I ask you this question, if you will point out to 793
the Court, each individual defendant here today that
you can identify as having participated in the activi
ties on March the 2nd, 1961 and state specifically what
each of those that you identify did which led towards
the charge of breach of the peace being placed against
that individual?
A. Charles McDew, hack there, and the young man
sitting to his left, and the one with the patch over his
eye. I recognize those three. Of course, I recognize
David Carter and Williams.
Q. Now, then, are those all that you recognize?
A. I recognize this elderly man over here. Is he one
of the defendants in here?
Q. What row?
A. In the first row, next to the end.
Q. I may be in error hut I think you have reference
to Reverend Glover.
A. That’s perhaps the only one.
Q. The second part of my question was, Chief Beck
man, if you will point out to the Court, specifically,
what each of the persons you have identified did on 795
March the 2nd which led to the charge of breach of the
peace against him?
A. Of course, all of them were part of the overall
group that participated in the general singing and
stomping of the feet.
Q. Specifically, can you identify each of these per
sons as having stomped their feet and sung?
A. I saw McDew as he was coming through the
circle.
Q. Tell us what McDew did? 79g
A. That was shortly after Mr. McNayr gave them
fifteen minutes to disperse, this group came through.
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I ’d say fifteen to twenty people in that group and I
asked him if he wanted to disperse his group and go
back, and I spoke to the entire group and I told them
that if they didn’t go back, we would have to arrest
them and charge them with breach of the peace and I
had to get David—
Q. Let me ask you, did McDew go back?
A. No, he didn’t.
Q. That’s what McDew did? The fellow with the
glasses on, tell me what he did?
A. He was in the group that I saw there. He was a
party participant.
Q. Now, I believe, Captain Beckman, you have told
what Charles McDew did and you have said that you
didn’t remember anything specific that Reverend
Glover had done, you pointed out that you could rec
ognize Anthony McFadden, he’s the one who is seated
immediately to the left of Charles McDew—
A. To my right?
Q. Yes. Specifically, what do you recognize him as
doing?
A. He was a part of the over-all group that was
arrested there that day.
Q. George Anderson is the man with the patch on
his eye. What specifically did he do?
A. He was a part of the over-all group.
Mr. Jenkins: No further questions.
(Witness excused.)
Mr. Coleman: That completes the State’s testimony,
Your Honor.
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, I ’d like to make
a couple of motions. No. 1, we move that the charge
against each of these defendants be dismissed on the
ground that the State has failed to establish the c o r p u s
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d e l i c t i . The 2nd motion is, we move that the charge
against each of the defendants present this morning
and on trial here today be dismissed on the ground
that the State has failed to prove a p r i m a f a c i e case.
The 3rd motion for dismissal is upon the ground that
by the arrest and prosecution of these defendants, each
of them, the police powers of the State of South Caro
lina are being used to deprive each defendant of the
right of freedom of assembly and freedom of speech
guaranteed to each by the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution and further secured to each
by the equal protection and due process clauses of the
Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitu
tion, the evidence of the State showing that, at the time
of their arrest, these defendants were included in a
peaceful, lawful assemblage of persons, orderly in
every respect upon the public streets and properties
of the State of South Carolina. These are the three
motions for dismissal.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor pleases, the State op
poses all three motions. Opposes, first, on the ground
that there is ample evidence establishing the crime
committed. There is ample evidence to establish the
crime was committed by these defendants. I believe
that would cover all of our objections.
The Court: All three motions denied.
Mr. Jenkins: At this time, may it please the Court,
the defendants would like, with Your Honor’s permis
sion, for the record to show that, if these defendants
before the Court today, were each placed on the stand,
each would testify substantially, both on direct exami
nation and on cross examination, the same as the wit
ness and defendant, James Jerome Kirton, testified
during the trial here before Your Honor on Tuesday
of this week, Tuesday, March the 13th, 1961.
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Mr. Coleman: The State is agreeable to that.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Jenkins: Further, Your Honor, on behalf of the
defendants, we should like to place on the stand just
two witnesses, just a short examination.
Whereupon, Mr. Jenkins called R everend B. J.
Glover, who, being first duly sworn, testified as fol
lows :
D i r e c t E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Jenkins:
Q. You are the Reverend Benjamin J. Glover?
A. That’s right.
Q. Reverend Glover, I know that you do not nor
mally speak very loudly, but today would you raise
your voice just a little bit so we can hear you clearly?
You are a defendant today?
A. That’s right, sir.
Q. Reverend Glover, will you tell to the Court, in
your own words, what you know about the cause on
March 2nd, 1961, leading to the arrest of these present
defendants, your participation, if any, in the occur
rence which led to your arrest, just in your own words?
A. I came to Columbia accompanied by several stu
dents from my area to a student meeting and, in that
meeting, the students discussed, in part, racial dis
crimination as existed in South Carolina and particu
larly in Columbia. They also discussed the fact that
the Legislators were in session, at that time, and de
cided to point out their feelings, as it relates to segre
gation, by a procession to the State Capitol. In that
procession they walked orderly and peacefully and I
feel that most of these students are peaceful, to point
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out either a feeling of resentment or a feeling of that g09
relation. I followed the group—
Q. May I interrupt you? Were you a part of what
you characterized a procession?
A. I followed the group—yes, not as a student but
as a person in any advisory capacity to some of the
students, who were assigned to me as their parents
permitted them to come because of my company. Cer
tainly I had to see that they were protected or that
they followed what I felt was the reasonable rights
and, in doing so, they proceeded to the Capitol and, I
might say, that they walked from the place where they 810
assembled to the Capitol with no intention of being
arrested or molested or of violating a law. It was my
understanding, from their discussion, that this was
public property and they had a right; in fact, they
asked me, the students that I brought with me, and I
told them that I felt that it was public property and
that they had a right, as a citizen, to move in a peace
ful manner and at no time, I can say to this Court, did
these students that I know about, were they disorderly
or acting in a boisterous manner because every one sn
that I know are Christians. I knew that they would be
have according to certain ethical and moral codes. The
group went to the State grounds, at least through the
grounds, but in the group that I followed, we were
stopped by an officer stating his position and I must
confess that I was never able to make a second round
and many of the other who followed, and they said
“around and around”, I ’ve heard it testified here that
it was a continuous situation, but the officer said that
this was not the thing to do and certainly I wouldn’t gl2
have done it, because on that particular day, by being
arrested, and I certainly was arrested not knowing
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what I was arrested for, I asked the officer but I was
given no particular charge, and he repeated again
“You are under arrest” , and Your Honor, I certainly
would have made arrangements to have been able to
ride back to the jail because I walked further that day
than I have in four years. I ’m not permitted to walk
more than three blocks. I certainly would not have
gone there with the intention of being arrested with
an idea of walking that far, but I went there only as an
observer with the students, as they approached the
State Capitol, and I would like for the Court to know
that, to my knowledge, there was no singing or demon
stration, as far as overt expressions were concerned,
or actions, until after the arrest was made.
Q. Reverend Glover, did you pay any particular at
tention to the on-lookers, who perhaps were around
that area?
A. Most of them, as I observed, some faces were
smiling, perhaps a gesture of good faith, and on one
occasion two or three persons approached with an
intention of shaking hands and I believe one person
was arrested on that account.
Q. Did you observe any indication on the part of
any bystander—-
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, I ask that the
remark of the witness be stricken, the one that had
reference to other persons be arrested because they
attempted to shake hands.
Mr. Jenkins: We will agree, if Your Honor, please,
that that be stricken.
The Court: Strike it from the record.
Q. Reverend Glover, did you observe on the part of
any of the by-standers any act or any conduct, which
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to your mind, brought on a possibility of bodily harm
to you or any of those persons under your charge?
A. I did not.
Q. Did you observe any of the persons, who took
part in this expression that day, that any of these de
fendants who impeded, other than the use of the side
walks ?
A. I did not.
Q. Did you observe any of them creating a bottle
neck in the vehicular traffic anywhere around where
they were?
A. The only time that I noticed any obstruction of
the traffic or the slowing up of movement, was when
an officer spoke to us, either by the State or City or
some person who identified himself as an officer or he
wore the uniform of an officer, at that time, he stopped
persons from saying something to them but the officer
that stopped me stated that “You are under arrest”
and, in questioning him, the groups began to come up
and, if there was a congestion—however, in that par
ticular instance, he stated that we must single file and
the single file was to the outer side of the street, so,
that, assuming that a person would be able to pass,
and it certainly was not the acts of the students to vio
late or to hinder the traffic.
Q. You made some comment on the distance that you
had walked and you had not walked that distance for
some time. Would you state for what reason you have
not walked?
A. I ’ve been confined to the hospital with a muscu
lar ailment.
Q. Do you think of anything further that you would
like to say with regard to the incidents on that day?
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A. Attorney, the only thing I could possibly say is
that there was no intention in the minds of the stu
dents—
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, I object to his
stating the intentions in the minds of the students.
A. There was no expression, as relates to arrest or
a violation of a law, or at least the purpose for which
I followed them was to show to the Legislators or other
persons, with whom we might he able to converse, that
there is a deep-seated resentment on this matter of
racial inequalities and segregation and I felt that there
was no better time or place to demonstrate it than on
the Capitol, which is the center of our total policy
makers.
Mr. Jenkins : I have no further questions.
C r o s s E x a m i n a t i o n
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. Reverend Glover, you walked from the Zion Bap
tist Church to the State House grounds?
A. I did.
Q. Hid you inform any police officer about any phys
ical disability of yourself?
A. I did not.
Q. You were there the entire period during which
these students were on the State House grounds, with
them?
A. Yes.
Q. For how long a period were they allowed to walk
in and about the State House grounds ?
A. I would say that it was in the area of fifteen to
thirty minutes.
Q. Were you directing a group or did you have a
supervisory capacity over them that day?
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A. No, supervisor, except for the young people I
brought with me.
Q. You were, though, a part of the over-all group
that was conducting the demonstration? You are not
a student, I understand that, but you were a part of
the group, is that correct?
A. Yes, I became involved.
Q. Do you not think that a reasonable time was
given to you and the other students in which to express
whatever you wanted to express that day?
A. No, I feel that a person expressing a resentment
or any feeling has to be guided by his conscience.
Q. How long or do you know how long you would
have stayed there had there been no acts on the part
of the police officers?
A. That would be determined by the conscience of
the group of the individual.
Q. Then, you are saying that there would be no
limit, is that correct ?
A. Conscience always has a limit, sir.
Q. What is it in your case?
A. In my case—
Q. As to the demonstration?
A. That I am unable to tell. We did not have an
opportunity to let conscience be the guide.
Q. You have stated that you felt that you and the
others had the right to go upon the State House
grounds. Tesimony has shown that you were allowed
to go on the State House grounds. Did you see any
thing of the other factors which the testimony has
shown were involved in this case? Such as, the gather
ing of a crowd of on-lookers, the impeding of traffic on
the sidewalks, the impeding of vehicular traffic on the
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lanes around the horseshoe and on Gervais Street, did
you observe any of that?
A. I did not observe any abnormal impediment un
til the time that the group—it was stated that we were
under arrest and the line of the procession stopped
moving because of the statement made by the officer.
Q. Do you remember whether or not there were any
or none or many people, other than the students, in the
horseshoe when you first arrived there?
A. To be frank, sir, I did not notice any unusual
number.
Q. At that time?
A. At that time.
Q. Did you notice any unusual number immediately
prior to the time when the arrests were made?
A. When the officers stopped the group that I was
following, there appeared to be individuals coming
near, such as, reporters or officers, as I can remember,
and perhaps civilians but the point that I would like
for the Court to remember is that, as far as I was con
cerned, there was no unusual congregation or persons
until after the arrests were made.
Q. After the arrests? All right. You have stated that
you felt and the reason you went there was that every
person has a right to walk in and about the State
House grounds and demonstrate, is that right?
A. I don’t think I used the word demonstrate.
Q. What term did you use?
A. I said I thought every person had the right to
point out his feelings in the manner as the young peo
ple were participating.
Q. Do you think that that right extends to a large
group of two hundred people?
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A. Yes, as individuals, and I believe that the group
—at least I acted as an individual because I chose to
follow them.
Q. You were acting in concert, were you not?
A. Yes.
Q. If it’s all right for a group of two hundred, would
it be all right for a group of four hundred?
A. It would be all right, if they acted under the same
circumstances under which we acted.
Q. Would it he all right for a group of ten thou
sand?
A. I haven’t ever assembled ten thousand.
Q. You have stated what your beliefs were as to
your rights, I ’m merely trying to reach the point where
you think something maybe could be done to control
it. Is there such a limit in your mind?
A. A limit to action?
Q. A limit to the number of persons which might act
in concert and demonstrate on a public place?
A. When you come to the truth, everybody should be
convinced of the truth.
Q. I didn’t understand you.
A. When it comes to truth, everyone should be—it is
my belief and I spend my whole life trying to advo
cate truth and righteousness.
Q. I ’m in favor of truth also, but that does not an
swer my question. Is it your position that any number,
an unlimited number of people, acting in concert, might
parade in and about a public place for more than an
hour without any interference, for whatever reason,
would that be in violation of constitutional rights?
A. Would you mind my asking just one question to
clarify an answer?
Q. All right.
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A. Are you saying that the group demonstrated
more than an hour at the Capitol?
Q. Oh, no. I ’ll tie it to the exact period of time.
A. That would depend on the circumstances.
Q. What circumstances?
A. What’s involved.
Q. You say it would depend on the circumstances?
What circumstances might he involved? Do you think
congestion of traffic might come into it, along the pub
lic streets?
A. Oh, no.
Q. You do not? I thank you for that answer. Do you
feel that this group of students were arrested because
they were Negroes only? Do you feel that there was
no other reason for their arrest? You were one of the
leaders, you were one of the advisers, do you feel that
way?
A. The only point that I could possibly see that they
were arrested, I feel that there was no violation as to
their rights. You would have to ask the person who
signed the warrants for their arrest as to the reasons
we were arrested.
Q. All right. Did you know that it is a matter of
common knowledge that a group of people wishing to
bring the Evangelist Billy Graham to the State House
grounds were refused such permission?
Mr. .Tonkins : If Your Honor please, we realize this
is cross examination, I dislike to interrupt counsel but
the question does not seem pertinent to the issue before
the Court at this time.
Mr. Coleman: Normally, I would agree that it was
not pertinent but throughout all of these trials there’s
been innuendoes, there’s been inference, there’s been
direct testimony that these people, these students were
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arrested because they were Negroes. I see no reason
why the State cannot show, if they can upon cross ex
amination, that other groups, which had no identifica
tion with the Negro race, have been refused repeatedly
the use of the State House grounds for purposes of
rallies, demonstrations or things of that sort.
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, the defense has
advanced no reason, to my recollection, as to why these
defendants were arrested and I may further point out
that in the first trial, in the series of cases, effort was
made on behalf of the defense to question police offi
cials with reference to a rally which took place as the
result of the cancellation of the speaking engagement
of Mr. Nixon and the State vehemently opposed such
questioning and Your Honor ruled it as having nothing
to do with the case at issue. I repeat my objection and
I think we are going far afield to question this wit
ness with respect to action taken by the Police Depart
ment with reference to other assemblages in or about
the State House grounds.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, I ’d like to re
mind both the Court and counsel that the defense coun
sel brought out from a State witness here in this trial
today testimony with regard to the Nixon speech held
on the State House grounds without my objection.
The Court: Objection overruled.
Q. If you don’t know of it, just say so. Do you want
me to repeat the question ?
A. Please.
Q. Do you know that it is common knowledge that a
group of persons attempting to get permission to have
the Evangelist Billy Graham come to Columbia and
stage a rally on the State House grounds was refused!
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A. Yes, I have that knowledge but I ’d like to add
that the student procession was not classified as a
rally.
Q. Well, not by you. It was classified as a demon
stration. Is that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know that it’s common knowledge that an
organization, properly known as the Klu Ivlux Klan,
has been refused upon many occasions the use of the
State House grounds for purposes of a rally or a dem
onstration or anything of that nature?
A. I believe that’s true.
Q. Then, with that information, how can you pos
sibly conclude that this action was taken against the
people merely because they were Negroes?
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, I do not believe
this witness has testified that this action was taken
against him or any other defendant because they were
Negroes.
Mr. Coleman: I withdraw the question. No more
question.
The Court: The Court would like to get something
clarified in his own mind. Reverend Glover, I sympa
thize with the muscular trouble that you are having,
but you testified that you were not permitted to walk
but three blocks and then you testified that you had
walked from Zion Baptist Church down to the Capitol
Building. If I ’m not mistaken, that’s about six blocks.
How did that happen, if you’re not supposed to walk
but three blocks?
A. Your Honor, I would like to make this statement.
I intended to have stated that I have not walked more
than three blocks in approximately four years. I did
not say—the thing that I wanted clear was the fact
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that I had been advised not to over-exercise and, dur
ing that period, I had not walked more than three
blocks at any continuous walking, at one time and,
when I left Zion Church, I really didn’t know that the
State House was that far. When I started walking, it
was an opinion as to how I felt or as to whether I
would continue to walk. After getting to the Capitol
grounds and being arrested, I had to walk whether
I wanted to or not.
The Court: How many times have you been here in
Columbia, Reverend Glover?
A. Numbers of times.
The Court: You weren’t familiar with where the
Capitol Building was located with reference to Zion
Church?
A. No, sir.
The Court: I see.
Mr. Jenkins: I should like to ask the witness one
question.
Q. You said, Reverend Glover, that you did know
something about permission being refused Billy Gra
ham to hold a meeting here on the State House
grounds ?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know that the reason for that was that it
would be an integrated meeting?
A. Yes.
By Mr. Coleman:
Q. I believe you answered my question with regard
to permission sought by the Klu Klux Klan for such a
demonstration, you did know that, and it’s common
knowledge that such groups have been refused per
mission to use the grounds?
A. Yes.
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Q. Would the Kin Klux Klan have been an inte
grated meeting?
A. I don’t know.
Q. It is common knowledge—you said it was common
knowledge that the Billy Graham meeting might be
integrated?
A. Yes, it was.
Q. Would the same apply to the Klu Klux Klan
meeting ?
A. No, it would not.
Q. Yet they were also refused permission, is that
864 correct ?
A. Yes.
Mr. Coleman: Thank you.
(Witness excused.)
The Court: The Court will recess until 2 :30 o’clock
for lunch.
(Afternoon session.)
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor pleases, the defense does
not, at this time, propose to put any further witnesses
on the stand. We have concluded our case other than
855 we have a few motions, at this time, that we would
like to make.
(At this time, the defendants move for a dismissal
of the charges against them, and each of them, on the
same grounds as heretofore set forth and we respect
fully request that the record would show that these
three motions have been made, as though set out word
for word at this time.
The Court: It is so ordered.
(The motions are denied.)
Mr. Coleman: Nothing further from the State.
Mr. Jenkins: Nothing further from the defendants.
The Court: Any closing remarks ?
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Mr. Jenkins: Insofar as the defendants are con
cerned, we do not at this time care to make any argu
ment whatsoever, following whatever ruling Your
Honor may make with reference to the cases, we may
have something further to say then.
Mr. Coleman: The State has no argument at this
time.
The Court: The Court would like for all of the de
fendants to stand in front of the Bench with no par
ticular reference as to order.
(Defendants arraigned before the Bench.)
The Court: The Court finds you guilty as charged
for breach of the peace. Would the attorneys like to
say anything before I sentence them?
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, we have been
through similar trials on two occasions. The same re
marks, which we have previously made, you are fa
miliar with and I do not believe it is for any good
purpose to further delay these proceedings, therefore,
we have nothing further to say.
Mr. Coleman: Nothing further.
The Court: I would like for each of you defendants
who have not reached your 17th birthday to please
raise your hands (eight hands raised), and I want you
to come over here (indicating the left side of the court
room in front of Bench). What is your name?
A. Delbert Leon Woods.
The Court: Next, and on down the line.
A. Isaac Williams, Alfred Odell Lemon, Robert
Henry LaPrince, Wilbur Harrison Walker, William H.
Cooley, James William Cantey, Clifford B. Bell.
The Court: How old are you, Delbert Woods?
A. Sixteen.
The Court: Where are you from?
A. Charleston.
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The Court: Do you go to school?
A. Yes, sir.
The Court: What school?
A. Tenth rade.
The Court: Next one. What grade are you?
A. Tenth rade.
The Court: Where do you go to school?
A. Charleston.
The Court: Your name is what?
A. Isaac Williams.
The Court: Next?
A. I ’m sixteen, Tenth Grade, Sterling High School,
Greenville, Alfred Odell Lemon.
The Court: Next.
A. Robert LaPrince, Kirk High School, Charleston.
16 years old.
The Court: Next.
A. Sixteen, Tenth Grade, Greenville, South Carolina.
Wilbur Harrison Walker.
The Court: Next.
A. Sixteen, Eleventh Grade, Greenville, South Caro
lina, William Cooley.
The Court: Next.
A. James William Cantey, Sixteen, Eleventh Grade,
Columbia.
The Court: Next.
A. Clifford Bell, Sixteen, Senior, Mathis Academy.
The Court: I have given considerable thought to the
matters of young people working, young people vio
lating the laws and I have devoted most of my life try
ing to help and trying to lead them in the right direc
tion. Regardless of any we may do something or why
we may be led into something is only something that
you in your own heart can justify. The Court certainly
is going to take notice of the fact that you are not just
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minors, but you are really children. Some day you will
grow up to be a grown man and have problems that we,
ourselves, are faced with right now. I just hope that
when you become a man that you won’t use children to
fight your battles or my battles, as you have been used.
The Court fines each one of you eight the minimum
under the law, $10.00 or five days in jail. Now, if you
eight will sit down over there, we can proceed.
Next, I would like for the defendants from seven
teen up to twenty-one years old to stand over on this
side. (Defendants line up as directed.)
The Court: None of you have reached your twenty-
first birthday?
A. No. (In unison.)
The Court: What is your name?
A. Anthony McFadden.
The Court: Your name?
A. Clifford James Rice.
The Court: Next—
A. Sinclair Salters.
A. Hezikah Johnson.
A. James Allen Carter.
A. Thomas D. Hornsby.
A. Henry Williams.
A. Maxine Epps.
A. Frank E. Gore.
A. George A. Anderson.
rA.. Arthur Whitfield Stanley, Jr.
A. Earl Peters, Jr.
A. Wendell Dailey.
The Court: To each of you thirteen defendants, the
sentence of the Court is $100.00 or thirty days in jail.
I ’m going to suspend half of that upon payment of a
$50.00 fine. Take your seats, please.
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Mr. Jenkins: In his absence, William from Camden,
17 years of age; also James Clyburn, I do not know his
age but I understand he is less than twenty-one; he is
twenty years of age. He, also, is one of those tried in
his absence.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Jenkins: I ’m just wondering whether or not the
sentence you have meted out to these others applied,
as far as these two persons are concerned, pending
your checking their ages?
The Court: That’s right. It certainly will. For the
other thirteen defendants, the Court has absolutely no
sympathy because each one of you are grown men, who
have led children to the point where now they have a
record, a police record. To get children to fight your
battles and my battles is unheard of in a decent civili
zation.
The Court fines each one of you $100.00 or thirty
days in County Jail.
Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, at this time, on
behalf of all of the defendants, we move for arrest of
judgment or, in the alternative, for a new trial based
upon the motions made previously for a dismissal of
the actions and we respectfully request that rather
than spelling them out word for word, at this time, that
the record will show the same as though we had re
peated those motions again.
The Court: The records will show that.
(Motions denied.)
Mr. Jenkins: Now, then, at this time, if the Court
pleases, we serve notice of intention to appeal within
the statutory time. We will file with the Court written
notice along with exceptions. We would further re-
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quest that the Court would set appeal bonds in each
case.
The Court: The appeal bond for each one that has
just been tried and found guilty will be $100.00.
The Court would like, before we adjourn, to say, with
reference to the young people under twenty-one, it is
customary with me, if they come back before me the
second time, it would show that they have a complete
disregard for the law and justice as we know it, and
the Court will not look upon their age as a factor with
any future sentences you might have.
Mr. Jenkins: That’s all, Your Honor.
The Court: The court will be adjourned until Mon
day, March the 27th, when we will try the remaining
137 defendants who are charged in this particular ease.
(Court adjourned.)
I hearby certify that the foregoing is a true and cor
rect transcript of the notes of testimony taken by me at
the hearing of the above cause.
E leanor S. Mackey,
Reporter.
TRANSCRIPT OP TESTIMONY
Before Honorable Prank Powell, Magistrate, on
Monday, March 27, 1961, Court Room at Columbia
Police Headquarters, Columbia, South Carolina.
A p p e a r a n c e s :
For the State: J. C. Coleman, Esq.
For the Defendants: Lincoln C. Jenkins, Jr., Esq.,
Matthew J. Perry, Esq., Donald James Sampson, Esq.
The Court: I would like to announce the rules of the
Court. There will be no pictures taken within the court-
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room at any time, of any type. As many people who
like may attend the hearing this morning, if they have
a seat, but no one will be allowed to stand up around
the walls. Any outburst of any type will not be tolera
ted and the court will take into consideration, if this
happens, that the members present will be in contempt
of court.
The Court has before it a warrant charging the
following persons with the crime of breach of the
peace:
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, I wonder if it
wouldn’t expedite matters to have the defendants
stand and indicate whether they are present as you
read the names.
The Court: Yes. As I call out the names, as each
name is called, will you stand up and indicate whether
you are here or not. Answer “Present” loud and clear
when you stand up.
Betty Jean Capers—Present.
Minnie DeWitt—Present.
Dorris D. Wright—Present.
Dee Anne Anderson—Present.
Mary Norris—Present.
Bhunett Lindsey—Present.
Juanita Hall—Present.
Bettie Jean King—Present.
Benzer Inabinett—Present.
Carrie May Kelly—Present.
Hazel Yvonne Newberry—Present.
Betty Jean Lindsay—Present.
Sarah Elizabeth McKenzie—Present.
Mattie Thomas—Present.
Queen Ester Bush—Present.
Choncie Mae Drayton—Present.
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Ottie Ruth Jarrott—Present.
Dorothy Helen Robinson—Present.
Mary Louise English—Present.
Willie Oma Jamison—Present.
Bobbie Jeane Giles—Present.
Irene O’Neal Giles—Present.
Felicia Yvonne Young—Present.
Leola Clements—Present.
Gertrude Smith—Present.
Katherine Duncan—Present.
Marion Jeanette Johnson—Absent.
Jeanette Louise Hartwell—Present.
Mary Elizabeth Ellison—Present.
Junius Leverne Reed—Present.
James K. Davis—Present.
Leonard Lewis McCants—Present.
Mario Davis—Present.
Sammie Pringle—Present.
Clinton Warren Hazzard—Present.
Robert McTeer—Present.
James Kenneth Alford—Present.
Gwendolyn Watson—Present.
Yvonne Redd—Present.
Frances McDaniel—Present.
John Land—Present.
Hallain Sizer—Present.
Kate Lewis—Present.
Willie Evelyn Grant—Present.
Frances Elizabeth Johnson—Present.
Evelyn Bing—Present.
Shirley Ann King—Present.
Alethia Brown—Present.
Rebecca Williams—Present.
Mary Doe—Present.
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Albertine Myrtis Coney—Present.
Yvonne J. Goodloe—Present.
Brenda Janet Burton—Present.
Barbara Ann Mack—Present.
Judith Delores Smith—Absent.
Emma Jean Jones—Present.
Evelyn L. Robinson—Present.
Julius Duke Moses—Present.
Janet Louise Black—Present.
Juanita Waddell—Present.
Justine Simmons—Present.
Bettye Jean Machack—Present.
Mattie M. Giles—Present.
Annette Edwards—Present.
Betty Jean Wilson—Present.
Amanda Townsend—Present.
Novel Nowlin—Present.
Barbara Early—Present.
Louvenia Griggs—Present.
Gertrude Evans—Present.
Shirley A. Greene—Present.
Annie Mae Ray—Present.
Loretta Gertrude Bush—Present.
Bettie Jean Brown—Present.
Gloria Jean Jefferson—Present.
Rosalee Hines—Present.
Edith Jenkins—Present.
Florence Smalls—Present.
Mary Lou Sullivan—Present.
Rae L. Jones—Present.
Lucy Davis—Present.
Jenny Lou Davis—Present.
Myrtle L. Walker—Present.
Patricia Green—Present.
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Frederick E. Hart—Absent.
Margaret A. McCray—Present.
Rupert Hickman—Present.
Herbert Lawrence Wilson—Present.
Bernard Haire—Present.
Leon Bryant—Present.
Donald Jerome Salters—Present.
Frederick Paul Padgett—Present.
Robert Lee McBeth—Present.
Louie Lighty-—Absent.
Mr. Jenkins: Louie Lighty is the one who had to
report to his Draft Board this morning.
The Court:
Floyd Alvin Gilmore—Present.
McArthur Juke Bishop—Present.
Charlie Flemming—Present.
Joe Louis Robinson—Present.
John Josiah Campbell—Present.
I. D. Newman—Present.
Harold Foster—Absent.
Mr. Perry: Harold Foster is from Spartanburg and
I think he is on a trip from his school, either in Wash
ington or New York.
The Court:
Jimmy Norz Moore—Present.
Jessie Alfreda Lockhart—-Present.
Barbara Ann Cureton—Present.
Sarah Ann Wharton—Present.
Dianne Gwendolyn Blassingame—Present.
Sophia Pearl Lester—Present.
Laverne Durant—Present.
Bettye Jean Wideman—Present.
William T. Robinson—Present.
William Theodore Boggs—Present.
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Henry Earl Thomas—Present.
James Edward Coleman—Present.
Bernard Nathaniel Riggins—Present.
Horace Nash—Present.
John Wesley Miller-—Present.
Mark A. Williams—Present.
Clarence Missouri—Present.
Carl Edward Brook—Present.
Classie R. Walker-—Present.
Robbie Jean Young—Present.
Regina Shirley Ann Caldwell—Present.
Bookertee McLeod—Present.
Claude E. Moore—Present.
John I. Witherspoon—Present.
Matthew Williams—Present.
Harold Bardonville—Present.
Travis Simon—Present.
Shellie Stroman—Present.
Willie Paul Worthy—Present.
Robert Ferguson—Present.
,Albert Orage—Present.
John Sawyer—Present.
Glenn Manning—Present.
Kennedy Claflin—Present.
John Frederick—Present.
Bobby D. Doctor—Present.
The Court: Defendants be seated. Are these per
sons represented by counsel?
Mr. Jenkins: They are all represented by counsel.
The Court: How about Frederick Hart? Is he repre
sented by counsel?
Mr. Jenkins: He is not represented by counsel here.
The Court: (To Bailiff) Go outside and cry out his
name three times and report back to me.
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Mr. Jenkins: If Your Honor please, the following
defendants, while not physically present in court this
morning are present by counsel: Dee Anne Anderson,
Marion Jeanette Johnson, Judith Delores Smith, Louie
Eighty, Harold Foster, Paul Doctor, and it is agreed
that these persons, though absent, are represented by
counsel and will be bound by whatever rules and de
cisions are made by the Court this morning.
The Court: Mr. Bailiff?
Bailiff: No response, Your Honor.
The Court: The Court would like to have it in the
record that attempt has been made, the Bailiff cried
out the name of Frederick Hart three times outside of
the courtroom; he is not present and is not represented
by an attorney. The Court has also written the father
of this hoy last week informing him, as a courtesy, of
the hearing to be held here this morning at 1 0 : 0 0 o’
clock, to which the Court did not receive a reply. The
Court will try Frederick E. Hart in his absence this
morning.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, may we move
to sever the trial of Frederick Hart?
Mr. Jenkins: We will so agree, and we would ask
that the record show that the defendant Hart will be
severed from the other defendants in the trial this
morning.
The Court: It is agreed. Without the necessity of
going back and calling out the names of each one of
you, whom I have just called out, each one of the one
hundred and thirty and some odd, who was present be
fore me now, you have been charged on a warrant, to-
wit: “Personally appeared before me, Frank Powell,
Magistrate of the said County and said State, L. J.
Campbell who, being duly sworn, says that Bookertee
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McLeod, Pauline Moore and others, before me now, at
Columbia, South Carolina, on March 2nd, 1961 on the
901 State Capitol Grounds and on adjacent sidewalks and
streets did commit a breach of the peace in that they,
together with a large group of people, did assemble,
impede the normal traffic, sing and parade with pla
cards, failed to disperse upon lawful orders of police
officers, all of which tended directly to immediate vio
lence and breach of the peace in view of existing condi
tions. Signed, L. J. Campbell. Sworn to before me this
2nd day of March, 1961. Frank Powell, Columbia Mag
istrate.” The Court also would like it entered into the
902 record that each one of you on March the 2nd, when the
warrants were taken out, was read the charge indi
vidually by me to you, including those who are absent
today, Frederick E. Hart and others.
Are you the persons just called and were you re
leased on bond on a charge of the breach of the peace
to appear in court today?
Mr. Perry: The defendants will answer that question
in the affirmative by counsel.
The Court: How do you plead?
903 Mr. Perry: Each of the defendants pleads Not
Guilty.
The Court: Is the defense ready for trial?
Mr. Perry: The defense is ready.
The Court: Is the State ready for trial?
Mr. Coleman: The State is ready. Your Honor, at
this time, I wish to announce to the Court that counsel
for the defendants and counsel for the State has stipu
lated, if it please the Court to accept such stipulation,
that the testimony, which would be offered here today
904 and the witnesses who would appear here today, are
the same witnesses that have appeared in a trial in
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your Court last March the 16th. If Your Honor please,
may I look at the docket?
The Court: Yes.
Mr. Coleman: That trial being entitled State against
James C. West, Sinclair Salters, Hezikah Johnson,
James Clyburn, William Moultrie, David Carter, Ben
jamin James Glover, Samuel S. Williams, Arthur W.
Stanley, Jr., Wendell Dailey, Lennie William Glover,
Samuel Edwards, David Lawrence Perrett, James
Allen Carter, Clifford James Rice, Delbert Leon
Woods, Alfred Odell Lemon, Wilbur Harrison Walker,
James W. Cantey, Isaac W. Williams, Clifford B. Bell,
William H. Cooley, Robert Henry LaPrince, Frank E.
Gore, Earl Peters, Jr., Henry H. Harris, Charles R.
Miller, Charles McDew, Maxine Epps, Henry Williams,
Leroy Hogans, Jimmy Lee Smith, James Reeder, Jr.,
George Allen Anderson, Thomas D. Hornsby, Anthony
McFadden, being the intention of counsel to stipulate
that the same witnesses for both the State and the de
fense would be presented here today and that the evi
dence given by those same witnesses at the trial pre
viously identified, which took place in your court last
March the 16th, would be substantially the same if
they were presented here today, including testimony
by Chief Campbell, that the names appearing on the
warrants, which you have just read, were the names
given to the Police Station here in Columbia by per
sons who were engaged in certain demonstrations on
the State House Grounds last March the 2nd and who
were arrested on charge of breach of the peace that
day. The State is also stipulating that recognizance
bonds posted for these defendants would be offered in
evidence and will be placed in evidence by stipulation.
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Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, the defendants
will agree to the stipulation as stated by counsel for the
State, with the exception that the defendants would
like also to have the testimony, which was received by
the Court in the very first trial, the date of which has
escaped me at this moment, wherever it is deemed ap
plicable to be considered, also as a part of this stipu
lation. In other words, I understand that we have had
three trials and where applicable the testimony which
was offered in all of the preceding trials would be in
cluded in the stipulation, which has just been stated.
Mr. Coleman: That’s agreed.
The Court: The Court agrees and it is so ordered.
Mr. Perry: Particularly emphasizing each of the
preceding trial as a part of that stipulation.
Mr. Coleman: It is agreed.
Mr. Perry: At this time, may it please the Court, the
defendants respectfully move for a dismissal of the
cases pending against them upon all the grounds pre
viously noted in the several trials, which have been
held before Your Honor. We will omit any argument
on those motions and we ask that you consider them
and make ruling on them at this time.
Mr. Coleman: The State opposes the motions upon
the same grounds as was set forth in previous trials.
The Court: Motions denied.
Mr. Perry: At this time, may it please the Court, the
defendants offer to stipulate that if they offer evidence
in this trial, that the testimony, which was adduced in
the two previous trials, to wit: the trial on March 13th
and the trial on March 16h, which was held before Your
Honor, that the testimony, which would be presented
on behalf of the defendants, would be substantially the
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same as was the testimony offered in the trials of
March 13 and March 16.
Mr. Coleman: We agree.
The Court: It is so ordered.
Mr. Perry: The defendants hereupon renew all mo
tions for dismissal upon the same grounds as pre
viously noted.
Mr. Coleman: The Sate opposes the motions upon
the same grounds.
The Court: Motions denied.
Mr. Perry: Your Honor, I believe you will see fit
at this time to make your findings.
The Court: The Court will have a five minute recess
and I’d like for the State’s attorney and the defense at
torneys to come back in the Chambers.
(Recess.)
The Court: The Court finds each one of you guilty
as charged with the crime of breach of the peace.
The Court wants each person who has not as yet
reached his Seventeenth birthday to stand. Horace
Nash, Judith Smith—-
Mr. Perry: She’s absent.
The Court: Emma Jean Jones, Katherine Duncan,
Jessie Lockhart, Barbara Ann Cureton, Sarah Ann
Wharton, Dianne Blasingame, Brenda Janet Burton,
F. P. Padgett, James Alford, Carl E. Brooks, Rebecca
Williams, Leonard McCants. The sentence of the Court
to each of you standing here and for the one absent—
the Court has taken into consideration your youth this
time—and is going to fine you the minimum under the
law, $1 0 . 0 0 or five days in jail. I want to caution you
now, however, if you should come back before this
court again, that your youth will not be taken into con
sideration. Be seated.
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All of those who are twenty-one years or older
stand: Patricia Green—this is those who were twenty-
one as of March 2nd of this year—Barbara Giles, John
Campbell, DeQuincy Newman, Clarence Missouri, Al
bert Orage, Mattie Thomas, Harold Bardonville, Jr.,
Herbert Wilson, Rupert Hickman, Matthew Williams,
John Frederick, John Land, Shellie Stroman, Booker-
tee McLeod, Donald Jerome Salters, Evelyn Robinson,
Barbara Early, Betty Jean Mashack, Irene O’Neal
Giles. The Court will check the ages of each one of you,
the twenty, I believe, that have just stood up. For you
twenty, the Court has absolutely no sympathy what
ever. The Court sentences you to $100.00 fine or thirty
days in jail. Be seated.
The remainder of you stand up. To each of you, the
Court sentences you to $100.00 fine or thirty days in
jail. I ’m going to suspend half of that on a payment
of a fine of $50.00. To each one of you, I repeat, that,
if you should come back before this Court on any mat
ter, your youth will not be taken into consideration and
the Court cannot emphasize enough the fact that once
you reach twenty-one years old, whether you intend it
or not, you become a man and a woman in the State of
South Carolina and must accept the responsibilities of
a man and a woman. There’s a law in the State of
South Carolina that no person over twenty-one can in
terfere whatsoever with a child or a minor, which is
under twenty-one years old, if that minor or any law
is violated. I hope that you will take this into con
sideration and realize the seriousness of how close
some of you came to getting into very serious trouble.
Mr. Perry: May it please the Court, at this time the
defendants all move for arrest of judgment or in its
alternative for a new trial. This motion is based upon
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all grounds previously noted in the several motions
for dismissal in former trials. I will omit any argument
thereon.
Mr. Coleman: If Your Honor please, the State op
poses the motion upon the grounds set forth in the pre
vious trials.
The Court: Motion denied.
Mr. Perry: At this time, the defendants give verbal
notice of appeal. We will serve the written notice with
in the time required by statute and we ask that the
Court set an appeal bond.
The Court: The appeal bond for each one that was 922
tried today will be $1 0 0 .0 0 .
The Court will now go into the case of Frederick E.
Hart.
Mr. Jenkins: May it please the Court before that
trial, I should like to say to all of the defendants here,
with the Court’s permission, will you please remain
in here until we dismiss you because you will have to
sign appeal bonds. I wonder if there could be some
notation made by the Reporter that the trial of Fred
erick Hart will be a separate trial from a procedural 923
standpoint.
The Court: The Frederick Hart case will not be in
cluded with the other cases.
Trial of above case closed.
I hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and
correct transcript of the notes of testimony taken by
me at the hearing of the above cause.
E leanor S. Mackey,
Reporter. 924
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ORDER
This is an appeal from conviction in magistrate’s
court of the common law crime of breach of the peace.
There are almost 200 appellants, who were convicted
by the magistrate, City of Columbia, Richland County,
in four trials, trial by jury having been waived by the
appellants in each case. By stipulation between coun
sel for the appellants and the counsel for the State,
the appeals will be treated here as one since the facts
and applicable law were substantially the same in each
case. The trial Magistrate imposed fines upon each of
914 the appellants ranging from $10.00 to $100.00. Due
and timely notice of appeal from conviction was served
and oral arguments were heard before me in open
court. At my suggestion and with the agreement of
counsel for both sides, written briefs were filed.
The appellants except to the finding of the Magis
trate’s Court and the fines imposed as a result of such
finding of guilt upon the grounds that the State by
the evidence failed to establish the c o r p t i s d e l i c t i , that
the State failed to prove a p r i m a f a c i e case, that the
927 evidence showed that the police powers of the State of
South Carolina were used against the appellants to
deprive them of the right of freedom of speech guar
anteed by the Constitution of the United States and
the Constitution of South Carolina, and that the evi
dence presented before the Magistrate showed only
that the appellants at the time of their arrests were
engaged in a peaceful and lawful assemblage of per
sons, orderly in every respect upon the public streets
of the State of South Carolina.
Testimony before the Magistrate sets out the fol-
928 lowing series of events which culminated in the arrest
of the appellants and the issuance of warrants charg-
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ing them with breach of the peace. Shortly before noon
on the third day of March, 1961, the appellants, acting
in concert and with what appeared to be a preconceived
and definite plan, proceeded on foot along public side
walks from Zion Baptist Church in the City of Co
lumbia to the State House grounds, a distance of ap
proximately six city blocks. They walked in groups
of twelve to fifteen each, the groups being separated
by a few feet. Testimony shows that the purpose of
this assemblage and movement of students was to walk
in and about the grounds of the State House protest
ing, partly by the use of numerous placards, against
the segregation laws of this State. The General Assem
bly was in session at the time.
Upon their approach to an area in front of and im
mediately adjacent to the State House building, known
as the “horseshoe”, the Negro students were met by
police authorities of the State and the City of Colum
bia. After brief conversation between the leader of the
students and police officers, the students proceeded to
walk in and about the State House grounds displaying
placards, some of which, at least, might be termed in
flammatory in nature. There is some evidence also that
a few groups of students were singing during this
period. Such activity continued for approximately 45
minutes during which the students met with no inter
ference from anyone. Testimony from city and state
authorities was to the effect that during this period
of time, while the students were marching in and about
the grounds without hindrance from officers, large num
bers of onlookers, evidently attracted by the activity
of the students, had gathered in the “horseshoe” area,
entirely blocking the vehicular traffic lane and inter
fering materially with the movement of pedestrian
traffic on the sidewalks in the area and on city side-
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walks immediately adjacent. Testimony of city and
state authorities was that vehicular traffic on the busy
downtown streets of Gervais and Main, one running
alongside the grounds and the other “dead-ending” at
the State House, was noticeably and adversely affected
by the large assemblage of students and onlookers
which had filled the “horseshoe” area and overflowed
into Gervais and Main Streets. Some testimony dis
closed that in and about the “horseshoe” area it was
necessary for the police to issue increasingly frequent
orders to keep pedestrian traffic moving, even at a slow
rate.
The Chief of Police of the City of Columbia and the
City Manager of the City of Columbia testified that
they recognized in the crowd of onlookers persons
whom they knew to be potential troublemakers. It was
at this time that the police authorities decided that the
situation had become potentially dangerous and that
the activities of the students should be stopped. The
recognized and admitted leader of the students was
approached by city authorities and informed that the
activities of the students had created a situation which
in the opinion of the officers was potentially dangerous
and that such activities should cease in the interest of
the public peace and safety. The students were told
through their leader that they must disperse in 15 min
utes. The leader of the students, accompanied by the
City Manager of Columbia, went from one group of
students to the other, informing them of the decision
and orders of the police authorities.
The City Manager testified that the leader of the
students refused to instruct or advise them to desist
and disperse but that instead he “harangued” the stu
dents, whipping them into what was described by the
City Manager as a semi-religious fervor. He testified
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that the students, in response to the so-called harangue
by their leader, began to sing, clap their hands and ^
stamp their feet, refusing to stop the activity in which
they were engaged and refusing to disperse. After 15
minutes of this activity the students were arrested by
state and city officers and were charged with the crime
of breach of the peace.
With regard to the position taken by the appellants
that their activities in the circumstances set forth did
not constitute a crime, the attention of the Court has
been directed to several of our South Carolina cases
upon this point, one of them being the case of S t a t e v .
L a n g s t o n , 195 S. C. 190, 11 S. E. (2d) 1. The defend- 988
ant in that case was a member of a religious sect known
as Jehovah’s Witnesses. He, with others, went on a
Sunday to the homes of other persons in the com
munity and played records on the porches announcing
his religious beliefs to anyone who would listen. He
also employed a loud speaker mounted on a motor ve
hicle to go about the streets for the same purpose.
Crowds of persons were attracted by this activity. No
violence of any kind occurred. Upon his refusal to obey
orders of police officers to cease such activity, the de- 939
fendant was arrested and convicted for breach of the
peace. The Court in upholding the conviction said:
“It certainly cannot be said that there is not in
this State an absolute freedom of religion. A man
may believe what kind of religion he pleases or no
religion, and as long as he practices his belief
without a breach of the peace, he will not be dis
turbed.
“In general terms, a breach of the peace is a
violation of public order, the disturbance of public
tranquility, by any act or conduct inciting to vio
lence.
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“ It is not necessary that the peace be actually
broken to lay the foundation of prosecution for
this offense. If what is done is unjustifiable, tend
ing with sufficient directness to break the peace,
no more is required.”
With further reference to the argument advanced by
the appellants that they had a constitutional right to
engage in the activities for which they were eventually
charged with the crime of breach of the peace, regard
less of the situation which was apparently created as
a result of such activities, this Court takes notice of
the New York State case of P e o p l e v . F e i n e r , 300 N. Y.
391, 91 N. E. (2d) 319. In that case the Court of Ap
peals of the State of New York wrote an exhaustive
opinion in a case which arose in that State in 1950, the
factual situation being similar in many respects to
the cases presently before this Court upon appeal.
Feiner, a University student, stationed himself upon
one of the city streets of the City of Syracuse and pro
ceeded to address his remarks to all those who would
listen. The general tenor of his talk was designed to
arouse Negro people to fight for equal rights, which
he told them they did not have. Crowds attracted by
Feiner began to fill up the sidewalks and overflow into
the street. There was no disorder, but in the opinion
of police authorities there was real danger of a dis
turbance of public order or breach of the peace. Feiner
was requested by police to desist. He refused. The ar
rest was then made and Feiner was charged and con
victed of disorderly conduct.
In upholding the conviction, the New York Court
quoting from C a n t w e l l v . S t a t e o f C o n n e c t i c u t , 310 U.
S. 296, 60 S. Ct. 900, 84 L. Ed. 1213, 128 A. L. R. 1352,
said:
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“The offense known as breach of the peace em
braces a great variety of conduct destroying or
menacing public order and tranquility. It includes
not only violent acts, but acts and words likely
to produce violence in others. No one would have
the hardihood to suggest that the principle of free
dom of speech sanctions incitement to riot or that
religious liberty connotes the privilege to exhort
others to physical attack upon those belonging to
another sect. When clear and present danger of
riot, disorder, interference with traffic upon the
public streets or other immediate threat to public
safety, peace or order appears, the power of the
State to prevent or punish is obvious.”
The appellants in the present case have emphasized
repeatedly in the trials and in their arguments before
the Court and in their Brief that no one of them indi
vidually committed any single act which was a viola
tion of law. It is their contention that they had a right
to assemble and act as they did so long as they did
no other act which was in itself unlawful. Apparently
they reject the proposition that an act which is lawful
in some circumstances might be unlawful in others. The
New York Court in answering a similar contention
made by the defendant in the F e i n e r c a s e said:
“We are well aware of the caution with which
the courts should proceed in these matters. The
intolerance of a hostile audience may not in the
name of order be permitted to silence unpopular
opinions. The Constitution does not discriminate
between those who ideas are popular and those
whose beliefs arouse opposition or dislike or
hatred—guaranteeing the right of freedom of
speech to the former and withholding it from the
latter. We recognize, however, that the State must
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protect and preserve its existence and unfortunate
as it may be, the hostility and intolerance of street
audiences and the substantive evils which may fol
low therefrom are practical facts of which the
Courts and the law enforcement officers of the
State must take notice. Where, as here, we have
a combination of an aroused audience divided into
hostile camps, an interference with traffic and a
speaker who is deliberately agitating and goading
the crowd and the police officers to action, we think
a proper case has been made out under our State
and Federal Constitutions for punishment.”
In the present case the appellants were not pre
vented from engaging in their demonstration for a
period of approximately an hour, nor were they hin
dered in any way. After such activity had gone on for
approximately 45 minutes, police officers saw that
streets and sidewalks had been blocked by a combina
tion of students and a crowd of 200 or 300 onlookers
which had been attracted by their activities. They rec
ognized potential troublemakers in the crowd of on
lookers which was increasing by the minute. State and
city authorities testified that in their opinions the sit
uation which had been created by the students had
reached a point where it was potentially dangerous to
the peace of the community. Instead of taking pre
cipitous action even at this point, police authorities
ordered the students to cease their activities and dis
perse, giving them the reasons for such order. The stu
dents were told that they must cease their activities
in 15 minutes. The students refused to desist or to dis
perse. There is no indication whatever in this case
that the acts of the police officers were taken as a
subterfuge or excuse for the suppression of the ap
pellants’ views and opinions. The evidence is clear that
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the officers were motivated solely by a proper concern
for the preservation of order and the protection of
the general welfare in the face of an actual interference
with traffic and an imminently threatened disturbance
of the peace of the community.
Petitioning through the orderly procedures of the
Courts for the protection of any rights, either invaded
or denied, has been followed by the American people
for many years. It is the proper and the correct course
to pursue if one is sincerely seeking relief from op
pression or denial of rights. While it is a constitutional
right to assemble in a hall to espouse any cause, no
person has a right to organize demonstrations which '"A
any ordinary and reasonable thinking citizen knows or
reasonably should know would stir up passions and
create incidents of disorder.
The State of South Carolina, the City of Columbia,
and the County of Richland in the exercise of their
general police powers of necessity have the authority
to act in situations such as are detailed in the evidence
in these cases and if the conduct of their duly appointed
officers of the law is not arbitrary, capricious and the
result of prejudice hut is founded upon clear, convinc- 965
ing and common sense reasoning, there is no denial of
any right.
All exceptions of the appellants are overruled and
the convictions and sentences are affirmed.
/ s / L egare B ates,
Senior Judge, Richland Cormty
Court.
Columbia, South Carolina,
July 10th, 1961. 966