Wall v. Stanley County, North Carolina Board of Education Appendix to Appellants' Brief
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A udrey G illis W a l l and T h e N orth C arolina
T eachers A ssociation , a corporation,
Appellants,
— v .—
T h e S ta n le y C o u n ty B oard oe E du cation ,
a public body corporate,
Appellee.
APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE MIDDLE DISTRICT OF NORTH CAROLINA
APPENDIX TO APPELLANTS’ BRIEF
C onrad 0 . P earson
203% East Chapel Hill Street
Durham, North Carolina 27702
J . L evonne C h am bers
405% East Trade Street
Charlotte, North Carolina 28202
J ack G r e e n b e r g
J am es M. N abrit , III
10 Columbus Circle
New York, New York 10019
Attorneys for Appellants
I N D E X
Motion for Preliminary Injunction................................. 7a
Answers and Motions of Defendant ........................... 8a
Defendant’s Exhibit “A” ................................................ 19a
Response....................................................................... - 31a
Order on Initial Pre-Trial Conference ......................... 35a
Motion ................................................................................ 37a
Order Dated November 9, 1965 Denying Defendant’s
motions to Dismiss and for Summary Judgment
and Denying Plaintiffs’ Motion for a preliminary
injunction ................................................................... 39a
Order Dated November 9, 1965 granting plaintiffs’
motion to amend complaint and other pleadings to
show correct spelling of Stanly County Board of
Education and Stanly County.................................... 40a
Motion of Leave to Amend Complaint ...................... 41a
Memorandum ................................................................. 42a
Order on Final Pretrial Conference .......................... 44a
Order Dated February 9, 1966 ........................................ 51a
Memorandum ........................................................ 52a
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Complaint ........................................................................... la
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Stipulation ...................................................................... 53a
Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Opinion 54a
Judgment, Entered September 26, 1966 .................. 94a
Interrogatories ............................................. -................ 95a
Answers to Interrogatories ......................................... 97a
Schedule I ...................................................................... 100a
Schedule II .................................................................... 102a
Schedule III (a) ............................................................ 104a
Schedule 111(b) ............................................................ 118a
Schedule I V .................................................................... 132a
Schedule V ...................................................................... 140a
Schedule V I .................................................................... 141a
Interrogatories of Defendant ..................................... 154a
Answers to Interrogatories ......................................... 156a
Teacher Allotmens for 1965-66 ..................................... 161a
List of New Teachers for 1965-66 .............................. 175a
List of Teachers Not Returning for 1965-66 .............. 179a
List of Schools by Race 1965-66 .................................. 180a
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List of All Teachers 1965-66 ......................................... 181a
Letter of Luther A. Adams to Agricultural and Tech
nical College of Greensboro ................................... - 200a
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965 ................................. 201a
Form of Contract for Instructional Service.............. 212a
Letter of Robert E. McLendon to Audrey G. Wall .... 214a
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
April 15, 1966 and Resolution of Teacher Hiring
Policies ........................................................................ 216a
Deposition of G. L. Hines............................................. 233a
Deposition of Robert McLendon................................. 259a
Deposition of Luther A. Adams ............. 287a
Deposition of Reece B. McSwain................................. 351a
Deposition of Audrey Gillis Wall .............................. 357a
Transcript of Proceedings, April 26, 1966
Proceedings ............................................................ 396a
Luther Adams
Direct ...................................................... 403a
Colloquy .................................................................. 439a
Audrey Gillis Wall
Direct ...................................................... 461a
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Transcript of Proceedings, April 27, 1966
Proceedings ............................................................. 4^ a
E. Edmund Eentter, Jr.
Direct ....................................................... 417a.
Colloquy .................................................................. 483a
Notice of Appeal............................................................ 51 â
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United States Siatrirt fflnnrt
F or t h e M iddle D istr ic t oe N o rth C aro lin a
S a lsib u r y D ivisio n
Civil Action No. C-140-S-65
A u drey G illis W a l l an d the N o rth C arolin a
T each ers A ssociation , a c o rp o ra t io n ,
Plaintiffs,
— Y .----
The S t a n l e y C o u n t y B oard of E d u c a tio n , a public
body corporate of Stanley County, North Carolina,
Defendant.
Complaint
I
The jurisdiction of this Court is invoked pursuant to
Title 28, U. S. C. §1343(3), this being a suit in equity au
thorized by law, Title 42, U. S. C. §1983, to be commenced
by any citizen of the United States or other person within
the jurisdiction thereof to redress the deprivation under
color of statute, ordinance, regulation, custom or usage
of a State of rights, privileges and immunities secured
by the Constitution and laws of the United States. The
rights, privileges and immunities sought herein to be re
dressed are those secured by the Due Process and Equal
Protection Clauses of the Constitution of the United States.
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II
This is a proceeding for an injunction, enjoining the
Stanley County Board of Education, its members and
those acting in concert with them or at their direction
from continuing the policy, practice, custom and usage of
discriminating against the individual plaintiff, members
of plaintiff organization and other Negro citizens of Stanley
County, North Carolina, because of race or color, and from
hiring, assigning, or dismissing or refusing to hire teachers
and other school personnel in the Stanley County School
System on the basis of race or color, and for other relief
as hereinafter more fully appears.
III
The individual plaintiff in this case is a Negro citizen
of the United States and State of North Carolina, resid
ing in Stanley County, North Carolina. Said plaintiff pos
sesses the necessary qualifications for teaching and has
taught in the Stanley County School System for the past
thirteen years but has been dismissed and refused re
employment solely because of her race. Said plaintiff
brings this action on her own behalf and on behalf of all
other Negro teachers and school personnel in the Stanley
County School System, who are similarly situated and
affected by the policy, practice, custom and usage com
plained of herein. The members of the class on behalf
of whom individual plaintiff sue are so numerous as to
make it impracticable to bring them all individually before
this Court, but there are common questions of law and
fact involved, common grievances arising out of common
wrongs and common relief is sought for each member of
Complaint
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the class. The plaintiff fairly and adequately represents
the interests of the class.
The plaintiff North Carolina Teachers Association is a
professional teachers association, organized as a private,
non-profit, membership corporation pursuant to the laws
of the State of North Carolina, with authority to sue and
be sued in its corporate name. The Association has a
membership of approximately 12,500, most of whom are
Negro teachers, teaching in the public schools of North
Carolina, including the Stanley County Public Schools.
One of the objectives of the Association is to support the
decisions of the United States Supreme Court on segre
gation in public education and to work for the assignment
of students to classes and teachers and other professional
personnel to professional duties within the public school
systems without regard to race, and to work against dis
crimination in the selection of such professional personnel.
Plaintiff Association is the medium by which its members
are enabled to express their views and to take action with
respect to controversial issues relating to racial discrimina
tion. The Association asserts here the right of its members
not to be hired, assigned or dismissed on the basis of their
race or color.
IV
The defendant in this case is the Stanley County Board
of Education, a public body corporate organized and ex
isting under the laws of the State of North Carolina. The
defendant Board maintains and generally supervises the
public schools of Stanley County, North Carolina, acting
pursuant to the direction and authority contained in the
State’s constitutional and statutory provisions. As such,
the Board is an arm of the State of North Carolina, en
forcing and exercising State laws and policies. Among its
Complaint
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duties, defendant assigns students to the various public
schools and hires, assigns and dismisses teachers and pro
fessional school personnel to duties in the Stanley County
School System.
Y
Defendant, acting under color of the authority vested in
it by the laws of the State of North Carolina, has pursued
and is presently pursuing a policy, practice, custom and
usage of operating the public school system of Stanley
County on a basis that discriminates against plaintiffs be
cause of race or color, to wit:
1. Defendant has in the past and presently hires and
assigns all teachers and professional school personnel on
the basis of race and color. Negro teachers and profes
sional personnel are assigned to schools reserved for
Negro students.
2. Effective with the beginning of the 1965-66 school
year, defendant has adopted a plan for the assignment of
students to the various schools which permits students to
indicate the school they desire to attend. Under defen
dant’s plan, approximately 100 Negro students have re
quested reassignment from the formerly all-Negro schools
which they formerly attended to previously all-white
schools and pursuant to defendant’s policy and practice
of making racial assignments of teachers and professional
school personnel, defendant has dismissed individual plain
tiff herein and other Negro teachers, in anticipation of
the decrease in enrollment in the formerly all-Negro
schools, solely on the basis of their race and color. Defen
dant has continued to hire white teachers and school per
sonnel to fill positions in all-white or formerly all-white
schools and refused to consider the application of in
Complaint
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dividual plaintiff solely because of her race. Defendant
refuses to eliminate its racial policies regarding teachers
and professional personnel and continues to hire, assign
and dismiss such personnel solely on the basis of their
race and color.
VI
Plaintiffs have made reasonable efforts to communicate
to defendant their dissatisfaction with defendant’s racially
discriminatory practices, but without effecting any change.
Further efforts by plaintiffs would prove fruitless in pro
viding the relief which plaintiffs seek in view of defendant’s
continued avowed adherence to the racially discriminatory
practices set forth herein.
VII
Individual plaintiff and members of plaintiff Associa
tion are irreparably injured by the acts of defendant com
plained of herein. The continued racially discriminatory
practices of defendant in hiring, assigning and dismissing
teachers and professional school personnel violate the
rights of individual plaintiff and members of plaintiff
Association secured to them by the Due Process and
Equal Protection Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment
to the Constitution of the United States, and Title 42,
U. S. C. §§1981, 1982 and 1983.
The injury which plaintiffs suffer as a result of the
action of the defendant is and will continue to be irrepara
ble until enjoined by this Court. Any other relief to which
plaintiffs could be remitted would be attended by such
uncertainties and delays as to deny substantial relief,
would involve a multiplicity of suits, cause further ir
reparable injury and occasion damage, vexation and in
convenience to the plaintiffs.
Complaint
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W h e r e f o r e , plaintiffs respectfully pray that this Court
advance this cause on the docket and order a speedy hear
ing of the action according to law and, after such hearing,
enter a preliminary and permanent decree, enjoining the
defendant, its agents, employees, and successors and all
persons in active concert and participation with them from
hiring, assigning and dismissing teachers and professional
school personnel on the basis of race and color, from dis
missing, releasing, refusing to hire or assign individual
plaintiff and other Negro teachers and professional school
personnel on the basis of race or color and from continuing
any other practice, policy, custom or usage on the basis
of race or color.
Plaintiffs further pray that this Court retain jurisdic
tion of this cause pending full and complete compliance
by the defendant with the order of the Court, that the
Court will allow them their costs herein, reasonable counsel
fees and grant such other, further and additional or al
ternative relief as may appear to the Court to be equitable
and just.
Respectfully submitted,
C onrad 0 . P earson
203% East Chapel Hill Street
Durham, North Carolina
J . L e vo n n e C h a m b e r s
405% East Trade Street
Charlotte, North Carolina
J a c k G r e e n b e r g
D e rrick A. B e l l , Jr.
10 Columbus Circle
New York, New York 10019
Attorneys for Plaintiffs
Complaint
7a
Plaintiffs, upon their complaint filed in this case, move
the Court for a preliminary injunction pending final hear
ing and determination of this case, enjoining the defendant,
its agents, servants, employees, successors, and all persons
in active concert and participation with them for dismiss
ing, refusing to hire or assign Negro teachers, now teach
ing in the Stanley County School System, on the basis of
race or color and from hiring, assigning and dismissing
teachers and professional school personnel on the basis of
race.
Plaintiffs further pray that the Court will retain juris
diction of this cause pending full and complete compliance
by the defendant with the order of the Court, that the
Court will allow them their costs herein, reasonable at
torney fees, and grant such other, further additional or
alternative relief as may appear to the Court to be equi
table and just.
Respectfully submitted,
C onrad 0 . P earson
203% East Chapel Hill Street
Durham, North Carolina
J . L e vo n n e C h a m b e r s
405% East Trade Street
Charlotte, North Carolina
J a c k G reenberg
D e r rick A. B e l l , Jr.
10 Columbus Circle
New York, New York 10019
Attorneys for Plaintiffs
Motion for Preliminary Injunction
8a
The Defendant, Answering the Complaint of the Plain
tiffs, and Requesting That This Answer Be Used as
an Affidavit in Support of the Motions Herein Alleged
and as Notice of Said Motions, for Its Motions and
Answer Alleges:
F irst D efen se
This action should be dismissed for that:
a) The Complaint fails to state a claim upon which
relief can be granted.
b) Under the allegations of the Complaint Plaintiffs
would be entitled to no relief under any state or set of
facts which could be proved in support of its claim or
allegations.
c) Under the allegations of the Complaint Plaintiffs
have no possible right to relief on any theory, under any
discernible circumstances and their is an utter lack of law
and alleged facts.
d) For that the circumstances upon which Plaintiffs
attempt to base their cause of action are governed by
State law under Federal Rules of Decision Statute (28
USCA 1652) and, therefore, Defendant did not owe Plain
tiffs any statutory or other legal duty.
e) The Complaint discloses that Defendant acted within
the scope of its legal, lawful rights and pursuant to valid
State Statutes, and acts of the Defendant could not amount
to a violation of any rights of the Plaintiffs.
f) The Plaintiffs have no legal, statutory or constitu
tional right to public employment and cannot be deprived
of any rights related thereto.
Answer and Motions of Defendant
9a
g) The Defendant has never had any legal or con
tractual relationship with the Corporate Plaintiff, and
therefore the Corporate Plaintiff is not a proper party
to maintain this action, and therefore for a defect of Party
Plaintiff as to the Corporate Plaintiff this action should
be dismissed.
S econd D efen se
That for the reasons set forth in the First Defense, the
Defendant specifically moves that this alleged cause of
action be dismissed.
Answer and Motions of Defendant
T h ird D efen se
The Defendant adopts and realleges the matters and
things set forth in the First Defense and further alleges
that the contracts of the teachers for the benefit of whom
this action is allegedly instituted had expired and termi
nated in accordance with valid statutory law of the State of
North Carolina, and therefore the Defendant moves the
Court for judgment upon the pleadings in favor of the
Defendant and to the end that Plaintiffs’ alleged claim
and cause of action be dismissed.
F ou rth D efense
The defendant, by its Attorneys of Record, hereby move
the Court to enter summary judgment for the Defendant,
in accordance with the provisions of Rule 56(b) and (c) of
the Rules of Civil Procedure, on the ground that the plead
ings, answer of the Defendant used as an affidavit, and
other exhibits, show that the Defendant is entitled to
judgment as a matter of law. That Defendant will bring
this motion on for hearing before the District Judge of the
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United States Court for the Middle District of North Caro
lina at the Federal Courtroom in Salisbury, North Caro
lina, or at such other place as this proceeding or action is
set for hearing, or at such time as the Court may direct.
The Defendant alleges in support of said motion for sum
mary judgment the following:
a) The Defendant adopts and realleges the matters set
forth in the previous defense of this Answer.
b) That there are no genuine issues of material facts
existing which are determinative of any duty or right which
the Defendant owes the Plaintiffs, and as a matter of law
Defendant is entitled to a summary judgment.
c) That there are no genuine, relevant and material facts
as to deprivation of any constitutional rights of the teach
ers in whose behalf the Plaintiffs attempt to maintain this
action for that the circumstances upon which Plaintiffs
attempt to base their alleged claim or cause of action are
governed by State law, and, the Defendant having acted
within the scope of its legal rights according to State law
and State Statutes, no cause of action inures to the Plain
tiffs in behalf of said teachers.
d) That the Plaintiff Audrey Grillis Wall was formerly
employed by the Defendant to teach in the public schools
administered by the Defendant under a written legal con
tract which was entered into on a yearly basis as related
to the school year, and said contract expired or terminated
under the statutes and laws of the State of North Carolina,
and there was no legal duty on the part of the Defendant
Board of Education and its officers and agents to employ
said Plaintiff for another or prospective year, and said
Plaintiff had never had any right of employment or re
Answer and Motions of Defendant
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employment in the public schools of the Defendant nor did
any member of the Corporate Plaintiff organization have
any such right. That under the Rules of Decision Statute
enacted by Congress it is the duty of the Court to enforce
the State law which governs the rights and duties of the
parties.
e) That the Defendant, the Stanly County Board of Ed
ucation, is an agent of the State and an instrumentality of
government, as well as a body politic, and is, therefore,
not subject to the provisions of T itle VI of the Civil Rights
Act of 1964, and therefore the Defendant is immune from
any action or proceeding such as this claim of the Plain
tiffs on behalf of the individual plaintiff and the corperate
plaintiff in behalf of its teacher members; and the Defend
ant in these circumstances owes the Plaintiff and the said
teacher members no duty and is therefore not liable to the
individual Plaintiff the Corporate Plaintiff, or any other
school teacher who claims to have an interest in this action.
F if t h D efen se
The Plaintiffs having prayed for equitable relief have
failed to show a failure on the part of the Defendant to
perform a clear, legal duty so as to provide grounds for
equitable relief and a valid basis for a proper decree in
equity; that the teachers in whose behalf the Plaintiffs at
tempt to maintain this action have no valid and enforceable
right to public employment, their contracts having been
for a definite period of time and having expired, and said
teachers are not entitled to any exceptional or superior
prerogative and privileges because they happen to be mem
bers of the Negro race; that the rights and privileges as
to employment or re-employment of said public school
Answer and Motions of Defendant
12a
teachers are governed by the laws of the State of North
Carolina and these laws have been observed and complied
with by the Defendant; that the pnpils in the schools of
said teachers were assigned to other public schools in order
to comply with T itle VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
and there is therefore no equitable basis for the extraor
dinary relief of injunction or otherwise; that the laws of
the State of North Carolina govern and control in this
case under the Rules of Decision Statute, and Plaintiff is
not entitled to any form of equitable relief.
S ix t h D efense
That the Defendant has a constitutional right to enter
into contracts of employment with public school teachers,
including the teachers herein affected and has a constitu
tional right in its judgment and discretion to refuse to
reemploy these teachers or any other teachers in its public
school system; that any attempt on the part of the Plain
tiffs to force or compel the Defendant to again enter into
a new contract or to re-employ the teachers herein con
cerned is a violation of the constitutional rights of the De
fendant, is a violation of the due process clause of the Fifth
Amendment to the Federal Constitution and is therefore
in violation of the equal protection and due process clause
of the Fourteenth Amendment and further is in violation
of the Law of the Land clause as set forth in Article I,
Section 17, of the Constitution of North Carolina and fur
ther is an impairment of the Defendant’s right to con
tract ; that such constitutional infringement of the Defend
ant’s constitutional rights and such deprivation of the
Defendant’s privileges and immunities are here alleged as
a bar to the Plaintiffs’ right to recover in this action.
Answer and Motions of Defendant
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Answer and Motions of Defendant
S e v e n t h D efen se
That the individual Plaintiff Audrey Gfillis Wall was not
employed as a teacher in the public school system under the
jurisdiction of the Defendant for the school year 1965-1966
for the reason that the principal of the school in which
she taught for the school year 1964-1965 refused to recom
mend her reemployment on account of her incompetency,
lack of qualification, and past adverse record of employ
ment in said school system, and because no white or Negro
principal of any of the public schools of the Defendant
wanted or would accept her (except by compulsion on the
part of the Board of Education) on account of her past
record of insubordination and absenteeism in the schools
in which she had previously taught and her general reputa
tion for being a ‘Trouble maker” in the schools in which
she had taught.
E ig h t h D efense
The Defendant alleges and says that as an agency and
political subdivision of the State of North Carolina it is not
as such subject to suit without its consent, and the Court
is without jurisdiction to hear and determine the pur
ported claim for relief asserted against it as an entity and
“an arm of the State of North Carolina.”
N in t h D efen se
T h e D e fe n d a n t S pe c if ic a l l y A n sw e r in g t h e V arious
P aragraphs of th e C o m pl a in t for its A n sw e r A lleges :
1) Answering the allegations of Paragraph 1 of the
Complaint, it is admitted that the Federal Statutes desig
nated in said paragraph are set forth in the United States
Code, but it is denied that they have any application to the
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Defendant or that any constitutional rights of the Plain
tiffs or the said teachers have been violated or abridged or
that any unconstitutional discrimination has been enforced
or administered by the Defendant; except as admitted
herein, all allegations of Paragraph 1 are untrue and are
denied.
2) Answering the allegations of Paragraph 2 of the
Complaint, it is denied that the Plaintiffs or either of
them are entitled to any preliminary or permanent injunc
tion or that the Defendant, or any of its members or any
one acting in concert with them or at their direction or
otherwise, has engaged or is continuing to engage in a pol
icy, practice, custom, and usage of discriminating against
the individual plaintiff members of the plaintiff organiza
tion or other Negro citizens of Stanly County, North Caro
lina, because of race or color, or that they are hiring, as
signing, dismissing, or refusing to hire teachers and other
school personnel in the Stanly County School system on
the basis of race or color, and that all the allegations of
said paragraph are untrue and are denied.
3) Answering the allegations of Paragraph 2 of the
Complaint, it is admitted that the individual Plaintiff is a
Negro citizen of the United States, and of North Carolina,
residing in Stanly County, North Carolina, and that she has
taught in the Stanly County School system for eleven (11)
years; further answering said paragraph, the Defendant
affirmatively alleges that the individual plaintiff was not
re-employed in its school system for the year 1965-1966
because of the lack of qualification only, as has herein
before in this answer been set forth in detail. Further an
swering the allegations of said paragraph, the Defendant
says it does not have sufficient knowledge or information
Answer and Motions of Defendant
15a
to form a belief relative to those matters in said paragraph
asserting the nature and purpose of the North Carolina
Teachers Association and therefore denies the same.
Except as herein admitted, all the allegations of said
paragraph are denied.
4) Each and every allegation contained in Paragraph 4
of the Complaint are admitted, and, further affirmatively
answering the said allegations, the Stanly County Board of
Education alleges and says that as an agency and political
subdivision of the State of North Carolina it is not as
such subject to suit without its consent, and that the Court
is without jurisdiction to hear and determine the pur
ported claim for relief asserted against it as an entity and
“an arm of the State of North Carolina.”
5) The allegations of Paragraph 5 of the Complaint and
sub-paragraphs 1 through 4, inclusive, are untrue and de
nied, except to the extent that an admission to portions
thereof may be made in the further affirmative answer to
said allegations contained herein.
Further affirmatively answering allegations of Para
graph 5 of the Complaint, the Stanly County Board of
Education alleges that it submitted to the United States
Department of Health, Education, and Welfare a com
prehensive plan, prepared and designed in good faith to
comply with all lawful requirements of the Acts of Con
gress and judicial decisions and interpretations relating
thereto as they affect the desegregation of the public
schools over which the Stanly County Board of Education
has jurisdiction, which plan was adopted by the Board on
April 26, 1965, revised and re-adopted by the Board after
revision on June 7, 1965; that said plan was approved by
the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, by let
Answer and Motions of Defendant
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ter to Luther A. Adams, Superintendent of the Stanly
County School Administrative Unit, on June 18, 1965,
under signature of Francis Keppel, United States Com
missioner of Education; that said plan has been imple
mented in good faith by the Board of Education to the ex
tent possible at this time; that a copy of said plan, marked
“Exhibit A” is attached hereto and requested to be made
a part of this paragraph as if fully set forth herein.
Further answering allegations of said paragraph, the
Defendant alleges that it has not engaged in any discrimi
natory practices with reference to the Plaintiffs or any
teachers now employed or formerly employed in its school
system, and that the action taken hy it was done and per
formed in the effort to comply with T it l e VI of the Civil
Rights Act of 1964. It is specifically denied that the in
dividual plaintiff or any other teacher affected by com
pliance with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was dismissed
because of race or were in fact dismissed at all. That the
Defendant did not reemploy the individual plaintiff be
cause her contract had expired, because she was unqualified
and incompetent, and the Board had no need for her; that
the failure to re-employ public school teachers because of
transfer of students and consolidation of schools or any
other cause bringing about a reduction in the number of
teachers allotted to the schools has happened throughout
the State for many years and has affected both white and
Negro teachers.
6) The allegations of paragraph 6 of the Complaint are
denied.
7) The allegations of paragraph 7 of the Complaint are
denied.
Answer and Motions of Defendant
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W h erefore , having fully answered the Plaintiffs’ Com
plaint, the Defendant prays that the Court hold, rule,
adjudge, and decree as follows:
1) That the Court not consider this Answer to be a sub
mission to the jurisdiction of the Court.
2) That the Court grant the motions of the Defendant
to dismiss this action, for judgment on the pleadings and
the motion that the Court enter a summary judgment in
favor of the Defendant.
3) That the Court hold that the Complaint does not state
a claim upon which relief can be granted, and that the
Court has no jurisdiction over the Defendant and the sub
ject matter of this action.
4) That the Corporate Plaintiff has no legal capacity or
status to maintain this action.
5) That there is not sufficient equitable basis or facts
alleged for the granting of a permanent injunction of a
mandatory nature or of any other nature.
6) That this verified answer be treated as an affidavit for
the purpose of the motions alleged herein and in passing
upon the injunctive relief demanded by the Plaintiffs.
7) That no costs or fees be awarded or charged against
the Defendant.
8) That the costs of this action, together with reasonable
attorney fees, incurred by the Board of Education herein,
be taxed to the Plaintiffs; that the Plaintiffs be required
to file a bond or other security in order to secure the
same; and
Answer and Motions of Defendant
18a
9) That the Defendant have such other and further re
lief as to the Court may seem just and proper in the
premises.
Respectfully submitted this 2 day of September, 1965.
S taton P . W il l ia m s ,
Albemarle, N. C.
H e n r y C. D oby , Jr.,
Albemarle, N. C.
Attorneys for the Defendant.
Answer and Motions of Defendant
N o rth C aro lin a
S t a n l y C o u n t y
R eece B. M cS w a in , being duly sworn, says:
That he is Chairman of the Stanly County Board of Ed
ucation, the Defendant in this case, and that he verifies
this Answer in behalf of said Defendant; that he has read
the foregoing Answer and the same is true to his own
knowledge and belief, except as to the matters and things
therein stated upon information and belief, and as to those
matters and things he believes it to be true.
R eece B. M cS w a in
Chairman of the Stanly County
Board of Education
Sworn and subscribed to before
me on this the 1st day of September, 1965.
M argaret M . W il l ia m s
Notary Public
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C omes N o w , the Stanly County Board of Education,
a body politic and the governing authority for the opera
tion of the public schools in the Stanly County Admin
istrative Unit, Stanly County, North Carolina, under the
provisions of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964,
and submits for approval as compliance with said provi
sions and requirements of said Act the plan as follows:
A rticle I
G e n eral P rovisions an d C o m plia n c e I n f o r m a tio n
Section 1. The Stanly County Administrative Unit em
braces all of the County of Stanly other than that portion
of said County that lies within the boundaries of the
Albemarle City School Administrative Unit.
Section 2. The territory of the Stanly County Admin
istrative Unit comprises one (1) school district.
Section 3. Racial Characteristics of School Population
(a) There are approximately 6,934 children of school age
residing in the district, 5,870 of whom are white, and
1,064 of whom are Negro. There are no other races in
the district.
(b) The number of Negroes presently attending pre
dominantly white schools is two (2).
(c) The number of white children attending predom
inantly Negro schools is none (0).
(d) The number of Negro pupils presently attending
classes with white pupils in the public schools of the dis
trict by grade is: first grade, none; second grade, none;
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third grade, none; fourth grade, none; fifth grade, none;
sixth grade, none; seventh grade, none; eighth grade, none;
ninth grade, none; tenth grade, none; eleventh grade, none;
twelfth grade, two.
(e) The number of pupils attending public schools out
side the district on a tuition paid basis is: (i.e., tuition
paid by the parent or guardian with no contribution of
school tax funds from Stanly County) white, 278; Negro,
none; Other, none. The situation is this: Approximately
150 Negro High School children residing in the County
are presently assigned to the Albemarle City Administra
tive Unit. Under the exercise of the Freedom of Choice
Plan approximately two-thirds (% ) of the Negro students
assigned to the Albemarle Administrative Unit elected to
attend white schools in the Stanly County Administrative
Unit. At this point it is proposed to let the remaining
one-third (y3) continue to attend school in the City Ad
ministrative Unit. White children residing in the County
Administrative District are permitted to attend the Al
bemarle City Administrative Unit upon payment of a
tuition. This tuition is paid by the parents of the child
and no tax funds are involved.
(f) No pupils residing in the district presently attend
private schools on a tuition grant basis.
Section 4. Racial Characteristics of Schools of the
District
(a) The number of elementary schools (grades 1-8) in
which the pupils enrolled are all white is eleven (11);
all Negro, three (3); integrated, none.
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(b) There are no junior high schools operated in the
district.
(c) The number of high schools (grades 9-12) in which
the pupils enrolled are all white is two (2), all Negro,
one (1); integrated, one (1).
Section 5. Racial Characteristics of Teaching and
Administrative Staff
(a) By race, the number of teachers in the district who
are white is 237; Negro, 33; other, none.
(b) By race, the number of non-teaching staff members is
(clerical help, etc.) white, 124; Negro, 19; other, none.
(c) The number of elementary schools having teachers
who are all white is eleven (11); all Negro, three (3);
integrated, none.
(d) No junior high schools are operated in the district.
(e) The number of high schools having teachers who
are all white is three (3); all Negro, one (1); integrated,
none.
Section 6. School Bus Routes and Practices
A dual bus system is operated in the district; that is,
Negroes are assigned to and are transported in busses
carrying only Negroes; white children are assigned to
and transported on busses carrying only whites. The
children board the busses from pick-up stations along the
route. No child has to go more than one-half (Mj) mile to
board a bus, and virtually all pick-ups are made along the
bus route on a house to house basis.
Defendant’s Exhibit “A ”
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A rticle II
P l a n for C o m plia n c e
WITH
T it l e VI of t h e C iv il R ig h t s A ct of 1964
ADOPTED BY
T h e S t a n l y C o u n t y B oard of E d u cation
S t a n l y C o u n t y S ch ool A d m in ist r a t iv e U n it
A lb e m a r le , S t a n l y C o u n t y , N o rth C aro lin a
ON
J u n e 7, 1965
Section 1. Present Patterns, Practices, Policies and
Procedures Governing School Organization
and Pupil Assignment
(a) The schools by name, grades taught, enrollment by
race, and teaching staff by race are as follows:
Defendant’s Exhibit “A ”
S c h o o l
G ra d es
Taught
E n r o ll m e n t
b y ra ce
T e a c h in g
S t a ff
b y ra ce
Millingport 1-8 266 W 9 W
Richfield 1-8 246 W 9 W
New London 1-8 531W 17 W
Badin 1-8 322 W 11W
Norwood 1-8 698 W 25 W
Aquadale 1-8 324 W 12 W
Endy 1-8 266 W 10W
Oakboro 1-8 484 W 17 W
Stanfield 1-8 315 W 11 W
Ridgecrest 1-8 165 W 6 W
Locust 1-8 337 W 12 W
North Stanly 9-12 697 W 2 N 33 W
South Stanly 9-12 523 W 30 W
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Defendant’s Exhibit ‘ ‘‘A ”
S c h o o l
G ra d es
T a u g h t
E n r o llm e n t
b y ra ce
T e a c h in g
S t a f f
b y ra ce
West Stanly 9-12 672 W 35 W
West Badin 9-12 151 N 9 N
West Badin 1-8 305 N ION
South Oakboro 1-8 125 N 4 N
Lake View 1-8 261 N ION
Kingsville (in 9-12 150 N
Albemarle City 1-8 69 N
Administrative
Unit-pupils
assigned by
agreement)
(b) Presently, pupil assignments to the respective
schools are made pursuant to the provisions of Article 21,
Chapter 115, of the General Statutes of North Carolina,
with the right of re-assignment of any child by request.
Over the years white children have been assigned to all
white schools, and Negro children have been assigned to
all Negro schools. All requests for re-assignment made
for the school year 1964-65 were granted by the Board
of Education.
(c) Presently, 5,002 pupils are being transported by bus
to the respective schools. A dual transportation system
is used, and Negro children are assigned to busses trans
porting only Negroes, and white children are assigned to
busses transporting only white children, under the direc
tion of the County Superintendent and the principals of
the respective schools, pursuant to State Law.
(d) Staff personnel of the respective schools are not
presently assigned on an integrated basis, but county-wide
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staff meetings are held and conducted on a completely
integrated basis. This means that teachers’ meetings, prin
cipals’ meetings, supervisors’ meetings, and other admin
istrative meetings, including committee meetings etc., work
entirely on an integrated basis.
(e) The three (3) all-Negro schools operated in the
County Unit are located in the geographical centers of
areas densely populated with Negroes. These areas are
Negro communities that have developed over the years.
A r tic l e III
P roposed P olicies G overn in g E n r o l l m e n t an d A ssig n m e n t
an d R e- A ssig n m e n t op P u p il s to S chools in t h e
S ch ool A d m in ist r a t iv e U n it
Section 1. Commencing with the 1965-66 school year and
each year thereafter, children entitled to attend the schools
in the Administrative Unit will be given complete freedom
of choice as to the school to be attended, and to this end:
(a) Parents of all children entering the school system
for the first time and parents of all children in all grades
already enrolled in the school system will he given full
opportunity to indicate their choice of schools, before the
Board of Education makes any assignment of pupils.
Teachers, principals, and other school personnel are
not permitted to advise, recommend, or otherwise influence
the decision; nor will school personnel either favor or
penalize children because of the choice made.
(b) Should more requests be submitted for a particular
school or facility than can be honored because of over
crowding of facilities, preference will be accorded solely
on the basis of proximity of the residence of the child to
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the school chosen. No request will be denied for any reason
other than over-crowding. The Board of Education will
honor all “Freedom of Choice” requests and will make
facilities available where necessary.
(c) Parents whose original requests for assignment can
not be granted, will be given an opportunity to indicate a
second choice, in a like manner as they would have indicated
a first choice.
(d) Under the freedom of choice plan, it is mandatory
for parents to express a choice of school or schools to
which they wish their child or children to be assigned
without regard to race, color, or national origin.
A rticle IV
P rocedures for A d m in ist e r in g t h e P u p il A ssig n m e n t
P o licy for 1965-66 and S u b seq u en t Y ears
Section 1. As stated in Article III, the pupil assignment
policy becomes operative for the school year 1965-66.
Section 2. Pre-Registration of Pupils Planning to
Enroll in First Grade
(a) Beginning .............................. 1965 (a date at least
four weeks before pre-registration is to commence) and
once a week for three successive weeks the announcement
below shall be conspicuously published in the Stanly News
and Press, Albemarle, N. C.:
“ P re-R egistration of F irst G rade P u p il s for F a l l 1965
“Pre-registration of pupils planning to enroll in first
grade in Stanly County Schools for the fall 1965 semester
Defendant’s Exhibit “A ”
will take place for a period of .............. days, from
............................ . 1965 through ........................ . 1965.
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Under policies adopted by the Stanly County Board of
Education, parents or guardians may register pupils dur
ing this period at the school of their choice. All assign
ments heretofore made with respect to such pupils shall
be rescinded. At the time of pre-registration a choice must
be expressed. No child may attend school until a choice
has been made. In the event of over crowding, preference
will be given without regard to race, color, or national
origin to those choosing the school who reside closest to it.
Those whose choices are rejected because of over crowding
will be notified and permitted to make an effective choice
of another school, without regard to race, color or national
origin.
The choice is granted to the parent or guardian and the
child. Teachers, principals and other school personnel
are not permitted to advise, recommend or otherwise
influence the decision. Nor will school personnel either
favor or penalize children because of the choice made.
Children not pre-registered by the assigned date may
be registered at the school of their choice on ..........................
(a date to be set) immediately prior to the opening of
schools for the fall 1965 semester, but first preference in
choice of schools will be given to those who pre-registered
at the appointed date and time.
(b) Annually after 1965, similar practices will be fol
lowed with respect to registering and enrolling pupils for
the first time in the first grade.
Section 3. Notice to Parents of Pupils Moving into the
County School District from outside the
District
“ The Office of the Superintendent will furnish, upon
application, to parents or guardians of pupils moving into
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the school district, forms and instructions necessary to
complete registration and enrollment in the School of their
choice.”
Section 4. Notice to Parents of Pupils graduating from
Elementary to High School
“Pupils promoted from 8th grade (elementary school)
to 9th grade (high school) will be furnished by their class
room teacher or principal, for delivery to their parents
or guardians, on a date fixed by the Superintendent of
Schools prior to their graduation, the appropriate in
structions and forms on which their parents or guardians
may exercise their choice of the school next to be attended
by such pupils. A reasonable time (15 days) will be pro
vided for returning the form after it has been distributed,
and the written instructions accompanying the form shall
set forth in detail the Board of Education policies per
mitting a free choice of the school next to be attended.
A choice must be exercised, as to each child, as a condition
to his being admitted to school.”
Section 5. Lateral Transfers by Pupils, Eligible to
Continue in a School where Currently En
rolled. Notice!
“Prior to the end of classes for each school year, pupils
eligible to continue in the same school will be assigned
for the forthcoming year. At a date fixed by the Super
intendent and in advance of the time that re-assignment
for the coming year is made, all pupils will be furnished
by their classroom teachers appropriate forms and in
structions for use by their parents in exercising their right
to apply for a transfer of their child to a school of their
choice for the coming year. Such instructions will set
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forth in detail the Board of Education policies respecting
transfers without regard to race, color, or national origin
for the coming year, and will state that it is mandatory
for parents to sign and return the freedom of choice
forms.”
Section 6. Forms and Notices to be sent by School to
Parents
(a) Notice of Board Policy. “For the school year 1965-66
and for all school years thereafter, the Stanly County
Board of Education has adopted a plan for registering,
enrolling, and assigning pupils giving parents the right
to make a choice to be attended by their child, without
regard to race, color, or national origin. Use the enclosed
form to state your preference as to the school to which
you wish your child assigned. You must write into the
form on the lines indicated, the name of the child, the
grade he will be in, and the name of the school you wish
him to attend. Sign and date the form. This form must
be properly filled out and returned to your child’s teacher
or principal not later than .............................. 1965.
A freedom of choice request must be submitted for each
child as a condition to his being admitted to a school. If
more requests for a school are made than the school can
accommodate, due to over crowding of facilities, the Board
of Education will make assignments by giving preference,
without regard to race, color, or national origin, to those
choosing the school residing closest to it. If your child
is denied his choice for this reason, you will be notified,
and you may on appropriate forms state a second choice
of assignment.”
(b) Form to be used by Parent:
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“I am the parent or guardian o f .................................. -.....
(p u p il’s name and address)
whom I wish enrolled for the school year 1965-66 in the
.................. grade at th e ....................................... School.
Dated th e.................. day o f ............................... 1965.
(signed) .............................................”
(Parent or Guardian)
Section 7. Capacity o f Schools
Capacity of schools will be determined by the standards,
requirements, and regulations promulgated by the State
Board of Education.
Section 8. Transportation
(a) Where transportation of pupils is provided, children
will be assigned to busses on a non-segregated basis. All
services, facilities, activities and programs in each school
shall henceforth be available to every pupil of each school
on a non-discriminatory basis.
(b) If a parent chooses a school not normally served
by the transportation system of the district as now set up,
transportation must be furnished by the parent or guardian.
Section 9. Procedures for Informing and Preparing
Staff for Transition
Staff will be informed and prepared for the transition
by convocation of all staff personnel on an integrated basis.
Section 10. Policy of Board of Desegregation of Staff
The Board of Education is aware of and recognizes that
school desegregation includes desegregation of faculty and
is now in the process of developing a policy whereby staff
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and professional personnel will be employed solely on
the basis of competence, training, experience, and personal
qualifications and will be assigned to and within the schools
of the nnit without regard to race, color, or national origin.
This policy will be put into effect immediately after it is
developed, but in any event to commence by the 1966-67
school term.
Section 11. Plans for Future
The Board of Education recognizes that eventually the
all-Negro schools in the district will have to be abandoned,
and to this end the Board will develop a plan for additions
to present all-white schools or the construction of new
plants, and all pupils in the district will be assigned on a
non-discriminatory basis.
As of June 1, 1965 slightly less than one-half (% ) of the
approximately 1,000 Negro children had been assigned to
schools of their choice. In each instance assignment was
made to previously all-white schools as requested.
The Board of Education expects to completely desegre
gate all Negro schools by September, 1967 by providing
adequate facilities.
Section 12. Certification
This is to certify that the foregoing Plan for Compliance
was adopted by the Stanly County Board of Education
in called session on June 7, 1965.
Date June 7, 1965
s / Reece B. McSwain
C h a ir m a n
Date June 7, 1965
s / Luther A. Adams
S e c r e t a r y a n d S u p e r in t e n d e n t
Defendant’s Exhibit “A ”
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Come now the plaintiffs, by their undersigned attorneys,
and in response to the several motions of defendant, show
the Court as follows:
I
This action was initially tiled by plaintiffs on August 11,
1965, seeking a preliminary and permanent injunction
against the racially discriminatory practices of defendant
in dismissing and refusing to hire individual plaintiff, mem
bers of the class said plaintiff represents, and members of
corporate plaintiff in the public schools under defendant’s
jurisdiction. Plaintiffs also sought injunctive relief against
defendant’s racially discriminatory practices in assigning
teachers and school personnel in the Stanly County School
System. Along with their complaint, plaintiffs filed a mo
tion for preliminary injunction and brief. Defendant has
filed an answer moving
(1) to dismiss the action
(a) for failure to state a claim for relief, and con
tending
(b) and (c) that plaintiffs would be entitled to no
relief;
(d) that defendant owes plaintiffs no legal duty un
der 28 U. S. C. §1652;
(e) that defendant acted within its legal rights;
(f) that plaintiffs have no legal statutory or con
tractual right to public employment ;
(g) that defendant has had no legal or contractual
relation with corporate plaintiff and that said
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plaintiff is not a proper party to maintain the
action;
(2) to dismiss the action because the contracts for teach
ers were only for one year which expired;
(3) for summary judgment on the pleadings, affidavits
and exhibits, realleging the matters set forth in (1)
and (2) above and alleging that defendant, being an
agent of the State, was not subject to the provisions
of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964;
(4) to dismiss the action because defendant has a con
stitutional right to enter into contracts for employ
ment with public school teachers and that the action
here would violate defendant’s right of due process
under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution of
the United States as an impairment of defendant’s
right to enter into contracts.
II
To all said motions of defendant, plaintiffs say and
allege:
(1) That the First Defense of defendant is denied;
(2) That the Second Defense of defendant, realleging
the allegations of the First Defense, is denied;
(3) That the Third Defense of defendant is denied;
(4) That the Fourth Defense of defendant is denied;
(5) That the Fifth Defense of defendant is denied;
(6) That the Sixth Defense of defendant is denied;
(7) That the Seventh Defense of defendant is denied;
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(8) That the Eighth Defense of defendant is denied.
F u r t h e r a n s w e r in g a n d r e s p o n d in g to t h e m o t io n s o p
DEFENDANT, PLAINTIFF SAYS AND ALLEGES:
I
That by this action, plaintiffs seek an injunction against
defendant’s use of race and color in employing and assign
ing teachers and school personnel in the Stanly County
School System. Such practices by defendant are clearly
violative of the rights of individual plaintiff and others of
her class and members of corporate plaintiff. See Alston
v. School Board of City of Norfolk, 112 F.2d 992 (4th Cir.
1940); Franklin v. County School Board of Giles County,
------F. Supp.------ (Civil No. 64-C-73-R, W.D, Va., June 3,
1965).
II
That while the contracts of employment between defend
ant and Negro teachers and school personnel ran for one
year, defendant follows a practice of automatically renew
ing such contracts upon indications by employees of a de
sire to remain in the system; that individual plaintiff, and
others of her class and members of corporate plaintiff indi
cated a desire to remain in the system but defendant refused
to renew their contracts or refused to consider their appli
cations for employment on the basis of race and color in
violation of their rights under the due process and equal
protection clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment to the
Constitution of the United States. See Franklin v. County
School Board of Giles County, supra.
Response
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III
Plaintiffs have alleged, and defendant denied, that de
fendant has refused to rehire individual plaintiff and others
of her class and that defendant has followed and has con
tinued to follow a practice, custom and usage of hiring, as
signing and dismissing Negro teachers solely on the basis
of race and color. There are thus genuine, relevant and
material facts in dispute and no basis for summary judg
ment. Rule 56, FRCP; Barron & Holtzoff, Federal Practice
& Procedure <§§1232.2, 1234 (1958).
IV
Corporate plaintiff is a proper party to seek the relief
prayed for in its complaint and motion for preliminary
injunction. Franklin v. County School Board of Giles
County, supra; Alston v. School Board of City of Norfolk,
supra; Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U.S. 510; NAACP
v. Alabama, 357 U.S. 449; Swann v. Charlotte-Mecklenburg
Board of Education, ------ F. Supp. ------ (Civil No. 1974,
W.D. N.C., July 14, 1965).
W h e r e f o r e , plaintiffs pray that the several motions of
defendant be denied and that plaintiff be granted relief as
prayed in its complaint and motion for preliminary injunc
tion.
Response
Respectfully submitted,
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Order on Initial Pre-Trial Conference
Counsel for each of the parties in the above-entitled ac
tion, pursuant to notice, appeared on the 20th day of Octo
ber, 1965, for an initial pre-trial conference. J. LeVonne
Chambers, Esq., appeared as counsel for the Plaintiffs, and
Staton P. Williams, Esq., and Henry C. Doby, Jr., Esq.,
appeared as counsel for the Defendant.
After conferring with counsel for the parties, the follow
ing order is entered on initial pre-trial conference:
( 1 ) It is O r d e r e d that each of the parties commence
forthwith the processes of appropriate discovery and that
same be completed on or before the 20th day of December,
1965.
(2) At the time of the initial pre-trial conference, the
Court overruled all pending motions previously lodged by
the Plaintiffs and the Defendant without prejudice to the
right of the parties to reassert any or all of the pending mo
tions after the facts have been fully developed. Counsel
for the Plaintiffs will he responsible for the preparation of
all the necessary orders and present them to the Court for
signing after they have been seen and endorsed by counsel
for the Defendant with respect to form.
(3) To the extent presently known, the parties estimated
that the trial would consume less than half a day.
(4) The parties were advised that it was anticipated that
the final pre-trial conference would be held during the early
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Order on Initial Pre-Trial Conference
part of January 1966, and that the case would he tried
shortly thereafter.
/ s / E d w in M. S t a n l e y
United States District Judge
October 28,1965
A True Copy
Teste:
H e b m a n A m asa S m it h , Clerk
By: D e a n J. S m it h
Deputy Clerk
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Motion
Come now the plaintiffs by their undersigned attorneys
and respectfully move the Court for leave to amend their
complaint and other pleadings filed in the above subject
cause to correctly show the name of the party-defendant,
and, as grounds therefor, show the Court as follows:
1. This action was initially filed by plaintiffs on August
11, 1965, seeking a preliminary and permanent injunction
against the defendant for refusing to hire individual plain
tiff and members of plaintiff association and from employ
ing and assigning members of plaintiff association on the
basis of race or color.
2. In the style of their action and in the body of their
complaint and motion for preliminary injunction and other
pleadings, plaintiffs listed the defendant as the Stanley
County Board of Education.
3. That the correct spelling of the party-defendant is
the Stanly County Board of Education.
4. Despite the misspelling of the name of the party-
defendant no prejudice has resulted to the defendant since
it was properly served with summons and process and had
due notice of the pendency of this action and has filed an
answer and other pleadings in response to same.
W h e b e f o k e , plaintiffs respectfully move the Court for
leave to amend their complaint and other pleadings as
follows:
(a) To change the spelling of the party-defendant to
“ The Stanly County Board of Education, a public body cor
porate of Stanly County, North Carolina,” in lieu of “The
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Motion
Stanley County Board of Education, a public body corpo
rate of Stanley County, North Carolina,” where it appears
in the style of the action and the body of plaintiffs’ com
plaint and other pleadings.
(b) To change the spelling of “ Stanley” County to
“ Stanly” County where it appears in the style of the action
and body of plaintiffs’ complaint and other pleadings.
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Order Dated November 9 , 1965
This cause coming on to be heard upon motions by defend
ant to dismiss and for summary judgment and upon motion
of plaintiffs for preliminary injunction and it appearing to
the Court that the same should be denied at this time but
without prejudice to the right of the parties to renew their
motions, or any of them, at some future date if the parties
desire.
It is , t h e r e f o r e , o r d e r e d that the motions of defendant
to dismiss and for summary judgment be and the same are
hereby denied without prejudice to the right of the defend
ant to renew its motions, or any of them, at some future date
if defendant so desires.
It is f u r t h e r o r d e r e d that the motion of plaintiffs for pre
liminary injunction be and the same is hereby denied with
out prejudice to the right of the plaintiffs to renew their
motion at some future date if plaintiffs so desire.
/ s / E d w in M. S t a n l e y
Chief Judge, United States District Court
Dated: Nov. 9,1965
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Order Dated November 9, 1965
This cause coming on to be heard before the undersigned
District Judge upon motion of plaintiffs to amend their
complaint and other pleadings to show the correct spelling
of the Stanly County Board of Education and Stanly
County, and it appearing to the Court that there is good
cause therefor and that counsel for defendant has consented
to same.
It is , t h e r e f o r e , o r d e r e d that the complaint and other
pleadings of plaintiffs be amended to designate the party-
defendant as “The Stanly County Board of Education, a
public body corporate of Stanly County, North Carolina,”
in lieu of “The Stanley County Board of Education, a pub
lic body corporate of Stanley County, North Carolina,”
wherever it appears in the style of the action and body of
the complaint and other pleadings.
It is f u r t h e r o r d e r e d that the pleadings be amended to
read Stanly County in lieu of “ Stanley” County wherever
the same appears in the style of the action and body of the
complaint and other pleadings.
/ s / E d w in M. S t a n l e y
Chief Judge, United States District Court
Dated: Nov. 9,1965
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Motion of Leave to Amend Complaint
Come now the plaintiffs by their undersigned attorneys
and respectfully move the Court for leave to amend their
complaint, heretofore filed in the above subject cause, by
adding the following paragraph to the prayer for relief,
immediately following the first paragraph thereof;
“That the plaintiff be reinstated as a teacher in the School
System in the same or comparable position.”
Respectfully submitted,
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Memorandum
This matter was scheduled for Final Pre-Trial Confer
ence in the United States Courtroom, Post Office Building,
Salisbury, North Carolina, on Wednesday, February 2,
1966. J. LeVonne Chambers, Esquire, appeared as counsel
for the Plaintiffs; and Staton P. Williams, Esquire, and
Henry C. Doby, Jr., Esquire, appeared as counsel for the
Defendant.
When the matter was called for Final Pre-Trial Con
ference, the parties presented to the Court the proposed
O r d e r on Final Pre-Trial Conference, which had been
signed by counsel for the parties. The O r d e r was approved
and O r d e r e d filed in the form submitted.
The case is set for trial on April 25, 1966, at Salisbury,
North Carolina. The actual calendar for this term should
be mailed to the parties not later than thirty days prior to
the time set for trial.
The estimated trial time is two days. Trial briefs will
be filed with the Court on or before the 15th day of April,
1966.
The motion to amend the complaint, filed by the plain
tiffs, is allowed; and the plaintiff will accordingly prepare
an O r d e r for the signature of the Court, first presenting
same to counsel for the defendant for approval as to form.
I, Graham Erlacher, Official Reporter of the United
States District Court for the Middle District of North
Carolina, do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true
transcript from my notes of the entries made in the above-
entitled Case No. C-140-S-65 before and by Judge Eugene
A. Gordon, on February 2, 1966, in Salisbury, North Caro
lina, and I do hereby further certify that a copy of this
43a
Memorandum
transcript was mailed to each of the below-named attorneys
on February 7, 1966.
Given under my hand this 7th day of February, 1966.
/ s / G r a h a m E rlacher
Official Reporter
cc: J. LeVonne Chambers, Esq.
Staton P. Williams, Esq.
Henry C. Hoby, Jr., Esq.
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Pursuant to the provisions of Rule 16 of the Federal
Rules of Civil Procedure and Local Rule 22, a final pretrial
conference was held in the above-entitled cause on the 2nd
day of February, 1966.
J. LeVonne Chambers appeared as counsel for plaintiffs.
Staton P. Williams and Henry C. Doby, Jr. appeared as
counsel for defendant.
1. It is stipulated that all parties are properly before the
Court, and that the Court has jurisdiction over the parties
and the subject matter, except that defendant contends that
it is an agency and political subdivision of the State of
North Carolina and as such is not subject to suit without
its consent, and the Court is without jurisdiction to hear
and determine the purported claim.
2. It is stipulated that all parties have been correctly
designated, and there is no question as to misjoinder or
nonjoinder of the parties, except that defendant contends
that as to the corporate plaintiff, there is a defect in parties
plaintiff.
3. Plaintiffs’ contentions are:
That prior to and since the Brown decision the defendant
Board has followed a policy of hiring and assigning teachers
and school personnel on a racial basis, that Negro teachers
and school personnel are, without exception, assigned to
schools attended entirely by Negro students; that white
teachers and school personnel are assigned to schools at
tended by white students that for the 1965-66 school year,
approximately 287 Negro students transferred to formerly
all-white schools; that the School Board reduced the teacher
Order on Final Pretrial Conference
45a
allotment at the Negro schools and dismissed Negro teach
ers, including plaintiff Audrey Gillis Wall, solely because of
her race, pursuant to defendant’s continued practice of mak
ing racial assignments of teachers.
4. Defendant’s contentions are:
(a) Plaintiff Audrey Gillis Wall was not employed by
defendant School Board as a teacher in its public school
system for the 1965-66 school year because the principal
under whom she had taught in the prior school year recom
mended that she not be employed for the reason she was
not a fit and suitable teacher.
(b) Plaintiff Audrey Gillis Wall had no right in fact or in
law of employment as a schoolteacher by defendant School
Board.
(c) Plaintiffs do not state a claim in law or in fact upon
which the relief sought can he granted.
(d) Defendant has never had any legal or contractual re
lationship with the corporate plaintiff, and the corporate
plaintiff cannot in law maintain this action.
(e) Any contractual relation that had existed between
plaintiff Audrey Gillis Wall and defendant had terminated
and expired, and plaintiff Audrey Gillis Wall was not en
titled to employment by defendant.
5. Stipulations:
(a) At the beginning of the 1962-63 school year defend
ant School Board consolidated ten all-white schools in its
system into three high schools.
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Order on Final Pre-Trial Conference
(lb) Defendant hired the following new teachers since the
institution of this action:
G ra d e or
C ertifica te N a m e o f T ea c h er S c h o o l S u b je c t T a u g h t
Sec. A M ary C. Plummer W est Stanly English and B iology
Sec. A Mildred T. Lee W est Stanly H om e Economics
Prob. B Gretchen J. Corbitt Locust 4th-5th Combination
Elem. A Doris I. Melchor Locust 5th-6th Combination
Sec. A Irm a D. Altman W est Stanly H om e Economies
Prov. Y oc. H arold E. Burris W est Stanly Bricklaying
Prim . A Barbara A . Jackson Locust 5th Grade
Elem. B Sandra B. Biles Norwood 4th Grade
Sec. A Samuel Caldwell, Jr. North Stanly Social Studies
Sec. A Lois H . M abry Stanly County Teacher o f Hom e-
bound Children
6. Plaintiffs’ exhibits to be offered at trial:
(a) Answers to interrogatories.
(b) Minutes of Board meeting June 7, 1965.
(c) Teacher allotment form and allotments for the 1965-
66 school year.
(d) List of new teachers.
(e) List of teachers not returning for the 1965-66 school
year.
(f) List of schools and enrollment for the 1965-66 school
year.
(g) Teacher directory.
(h) Contract for instructional service.
(i) Letter of April 30, 1965.
(j) List of resignations and contracts to be approved
July 7,1965.
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/
7. It is stipulated and agreed that defendant’s counsel
has been furnished a copy of each exhibit identified by the
Plaintiffs.
8. It is stipulated and agreed that each of the exhibits
identified by plaintiffs is genuine and, if relevant and ma
terial, may be received in evidence without further identifi
cation or proof.
9. Defendant’s exhibits to be offered at trial:
(a) Answers to interrogatories.
10. It is stipulated and agreed that plaintiffs’ counsel has
been furnished a copy of each exhibit identified by the de
fendant.
11. It is stipulated and agreed that each of the exhibits
identified by defendant is genuine and, if relevant and ma
terial, may be received in evidence without further identifi
cation or proof.
12. List of names and addresses of all known witnesses
that plaintiffs may offer at trial, together with a brief state
ment of what counsel proposes to establish by the testimony
of each witness:
S ta te m e n t o f F a c ts
W i tn e s s A d d r e s s to be E sta b lish e d
S. Edmund Reutter, Jr. Columbia University General policies re-
Professor o f Education New York, New Y ork garding hiring and as-
Columbia University aigning school person
nel including person
nel in the Stanly County
School System.
Luther A . Adams Albemarle, N. C. Procedures follow ed in
hiring and assigning
teachers in school per
sonnel in Stanly County
School System.
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Order on Final Pre-Trial Conference
Audrey Gillis W all Charlotte, N. C. Qualifications and ex
perience in Stanly
County School System.
C. L. H ines Albemarle, N. C. General policies fo l
lowed in recommending
teachers fo r em ploy
m ent; dismissing teach
ers at the reduction in
allotm ent;
Reece B. M cSwain Albemarle, N. C. P olicy o f Board in hir
ing and assigning teach
ers and students.
Robert M cLendon Albemarle, N. C. General policies fo l
lowed in recommending
teachers fo r em ploy
ment, dismissing teach
ers at the reduction in
allotm ent;
13. List of names and addresses of all known witnesses
that defendant may offer at trial, together with a brief
statement of what connsel proposes to establish by the
testimony of each witness:
W i t n e s s
Luther A . Adams
A d d r e s s
Albemarle, N. C.
S ta te m e n t o f F a c ts
to be E s ta b lish e d
Practices follow ed by
defendant School Board
in hiring and firing
school personnel.
Robert M cLendon Albemarle, N. C. Qualifications o f plain
tiff A udrey Gillis W all
as teacher.
Baxter W illiam s Albemarle, N. C. Qualifications o f plain
tiff A udrey Gillis W all
as teacher.
G. L. Hines Albemarle, N. C. Qualifications o f plain
tiff A udrey Gillis W all
as teacher.
Claud Grigg Albemarle, N. C. Qualifications o f plain
tiff A udrey Gillis W all
as teacher.
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14. There are no pending or impending motions, and
neither party desires farther amendments to the pleadings,
except (a) that plaintiff will move the Court for leave to
amend and (b) that defendant will renew its motions to dis
miss and for summary judgment previously filed and denied
by the Court at the initial pretrial hearing without prejudice
to the right of defendant to renew its said motions.
15. Additional consideration has been given to a separa
tion of triable issues, and counsel for all parties are of the
opinion that a separation of the issues in this particular
case would not be feasible.
16. Plaintiffs contend that the contested issues to be tried
by the Court are as follows:
(a) Whether the School Board’s practice of hiring, as
signing and dismissing teachers and school personnel vio
lates the rights of plaintiffs and members of their class
guaranteed to them by the due process and equal protection
clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution
of the United States.
(b) Whether the School Board in dismissing and refus
ing to rehire plaintiff and members of her class for the
1965-66 school year deprived them of their right to due
process and equal protection of the laws as guaranteed by
the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the
United States.
17. Defendant contends that the contested issues to be
tried by the Court are as follows:
(a) Whether the defendant School Board’s practices of
hiring, assigning and dismissing teachers and school per
sonnel violates the rights of plaintiffs and members of their
class guaranteed to them by the due process and equal pro
tection clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Con
stitution of the United States.
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(b) Whether the defendant School Board in not employ
ing plaintiff Audrey Gillis Wall as a teacher in its public
school system for the 1965-66 school year deprived her of
her rights guaranteed to her under the due process and
equal protection clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment to
the Constitution of the United States.
18. Counsel for the parties announced that all witnesses
are available, and the case in all respects is ready for trial.
The probable length of trial is estimated to be two days.
19. Counsel for the parties represent to the Court that in
advance of the preparation of this order there was a full
and frank discussion of settlement possibilities, as required
by Local Rule 22 (k), and that prospects for settlement ap
pear to be remote. Counsel for plaintiffs will immediately
notify the Clerk in the event of a material change in settle
ment prospects.
/ s / J. L eV onn e C ham bers
J. L eV onn e C h am bers
405V2 East Trade Street
Charlotte, North Carolina
Counsel for Plaintiffs
/ s / S taton P. W illiam s
S tatoh P. W illiam s
501 Hill Building
Albemarle, North Carolina
/s / H e n r y C. D oby, Jr.
H e n r y C. D oby, Jr.
P. 0. Box 806
Albemarle, North Carolina
Date: February 2, 1966 Counsel for Defendant
Approved and Ordered Filed
/ s / E ugene G ordon
E ugene Gordon
United States District Judge
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51a
Order Dated February 9 , 1966
This cause coining on to be heard before the under
signed District Judge on the 2nd day of February, 1966, in
the United States District Court for the Middle District
of North Carolina, Salisbury Division, upon motion by
plaintiffs for leave to amend their complaint, and it ap
pearing to the Court that there is good cause, therefor;
Now, t h e r e f o r e , it is ordered that the plaintiffs are
allowed to amend their complaint by adding the following
paragraph to the prayer for relief:
“That the plaintiff be reinstated as a teacher in the
School System in the same or comparable position.”
E ugene A. C o r d o n
Judge, United States District Court
Dated: 9 February 66.
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Memorandum
This case came on for hearing on Wednesday, April 27,
1966, in the United States Courtroom, Post Office Building,
Salisbury, North Carolina. Conrad 0. Pearson, Esquire,
and J. Levonne Chambers, Esquire, appeared as counsel for
the plaintiffs; Staton P. Williams, Esquire, and Henry C.
Doby, Jr., Esquire, appeared as counsel for the defendant.
Evidence was introduced by the plaintiffs; the defendant
did not introduce evidence; the case was concluded on
Thursday, April 29, 1966.
The plaintiffs were directed to file with the Court on or
before the 20th day of May, 1966, proposed findings of fact
and conclusions of law with brief in support thereof. The
defendant was instructed to file with the Court on or before
the 1st day of June, 1966, proposed findings of fact and
conclusions of law with brief in support thereof; at the
time of the filing of the proposals with the Court, copies
of such proposals and briefs will be mailed to counsel for
the opposing party or parties.
Counsel for the parties in open court waived oral argu
ment. It was the opinion of all parties that the contentions
could be adequately covered in the proposals to be filed
with the Court.
I, Graham Erlacher, Official Reporter of the United
States District Court for the Middle District of North
Carolina, do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true
transcript from my notes of the entries made in the above-
entitled Case No. C-140-S-65, before and by Judge Eugene
A. Gordon, on April 27, 1966, in Salisbury, North Carolina,
and I do hereby further certify that a copy of this tran
script was mailed to each of the below-named attorneys
on May 3, 1966.
Given under my hand this 3rd day of May, 1966.
G ra h a m E rlacher
Official Reporter
53a
Stipulation
It is stipulated by the parties to this action that the
ruling of His Honor, Eugene Gordon, Jr., sustaining the
objections of the defendant to the admission of the testi
mony of the witness, Dr. Ernest Reutter, Jr., at the trial
of this cause on April 27, 28, 1966, may be reversed, and
said testimony may be considered by the Court and the
objections of the defendant to the admission thereof be
preserved. The defendant waives the right of cross exami
nation of the witness.
Dated May 4, 1966.
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G ordon, District Judge
This action was brought on August 11, 1965, by Audrey
Gillis Wall and the North Carolina Teachers Association
against the Stanly County Board of Education. The plain
tiffs seek, under the provisions of 28 TJ.S.C.A. § 1343(3)
and 42 U.S.C.A. § 1983, the following relief:
(1) a preliminary and permanent injunction enjoining
the defendant from dismissing, hiring and assigning teach
ers and other professional school personnel in the Stanly
County School System on the basis of race or color;
(2) an order requiring the reinstatement of the indi
vidual plaintiff in the same position or one comparable
to the position she held during the school year 1964-65, (in
accordance with complaint as amended February 10, 1966);
(3) retention of jurisdiction by the Court pending full
and complete compliance by the defendant; and
(4) reasonable counsel fees.
The defendant moved to dismiss and for summary judg
ment on September 3, 1965. The plaintiffs’ motion for a
preliminary injunction and the defendant’s motion to dis
miss and for summary judgment were denied by order
dated November 9, 1965.
The cause was heard by the Court sitting without a jury
on April 27-29, 1966. At the completion of all the evidence,
the defendant moved for dismissal of the plaintiffs’ action.
The Court reserved decision on the motion pending receipt
of proposed findings of fact and conclusions of law from
counsel for the respective parties.
Having now carefully considered all of counsels’ propo
sals, arguments and contentions, as well as the testimony,
Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Opinion
55a
stipulations, briefs and exhibits submitted, and the reason
able inferences to be drawn therefrom, the Court, pursuant
to Rule 52 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, makes
its Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
F in d in g s of F a c t
I .
In General
1. The individual plaintiff, Audrey Gillis Wall, is a
Negro, and at the time of the institution of this action,
a citizen of the State of North Carolina, and a resident of
Stanly County, North Carolina.
2. The corporate plaintiff, the North Carolina Teacher’s
Association, is a professional teachers association consist
ing principally of Negro teachers, including Negro teachers
in the Stanly County School System, and will hereafter be
referred to as the “Association.”
3. The defendant, The Stanly County Board of Educa
tion, is an agency of the State of North Carolina charged
with the responsibility of maintaining and operating and
does maintain and operate a system of public schools in
Stanly County, North Carolina, and will hereafter be re
ferred to as the “Board.”
4. The Board operates seventeen public schools in Stanly
County: fourteen elementary and four high schools, one
school being a combined elementary and high school and
known as a “union school.”
5. In the schol year 1963-64 and the years prior thereto,
all Negro pupils in the Stanly County School System (here-
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56a
inafter referred to as the “ System” ) were assigned to
Negro schools, and all white students were assigned to
white schools.
6. For the school year 1964-65, initial assignment of
pupils was made to the schools they had attended in the
school year 1963-64 with the proviso that if their parents
desired that they attend another school, the parents could
make application for such transfer.
7. Little public notice was given by the Board of the
aforesaid right of parents to request assignment of their
children to schools other than those which they had previ
ously attended. The first and only integration of the Stanly
County School System which occurred in school year 1964-
65 was upon the transfer of two Negro pupils from Kings
ville High School, a Negro school, to North Stanly High
School, formerly an all white school.
8. For school year 1964-65, and the years prior thereto,
professional personnel within the System were assigned by
race. There were no Negro teachers or principals at white
or predominantly white schools, and no white teachers and
principals at Negro schools.
9. For school year 1964-65, and for the years prior
thereto, the allocation of teacher spaces received by the
defendant from the State of North Carolina indicated that
the Board was authorized a designated number of white
teacher spaces and a given number of Negro teacher spaces.
The allocation also indicated the specific school to which
the spaces were allocated. The allocations were thereupon
transmitted to the several principals of schools within the
System.
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57a
10. Teachers desirous of a position in the System sub
mitted an application for employment to the principal of
the school at which they wished to teach. The principal
recommended the teachers he wished to employ to the local
school committee for his school which committee accepted
or rejected the teachers recommended for employment. If
the local school committee approved the applicant, the con
tract was forwarded to the Board for approval or dis
approval.
11. A teacher desirous of a position in the System could,
rather than utilizing the foregoing procedure, submit an
application to the office of the Superintendent of the Sys
tem for a job in the System for which the applicant might
qualify. Such applications were maintained on file in the
Superintendent’s office, separate files being maintained for
white and Negro applicants, and were available for the
perusal of the principals at their leisure.
This procedure was utilized less frequently than that in
Finding Number Ten, supra.
12. Beginning in 1965, the local school committees were
eliminated from any part in teacher selection. Thereafter,
the principal alone ruled upon both initial applicants and
former teachers at his school who desired to be employed
again at the school.
13. A teacher employed at a school in the System did
not annually submit an application for employment. If
the teacher desired continued employment at that school
during the following school year, he would make this fact
known to the principal who would recommend to the Board
that that teacher be retained on the faculty if the princi
pal judged the teacher fit to teach.
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58a
14. For school year 1965-66, the Board adopted a “Plan
of Compliance” under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of
1964, under which plan pupils were not assigned to a school
by race, geographic districts, or past enrollment, but rather
were given a “freedom of choice” in the school to attend.
The parents of all pupils in the System were required to
indicate, in writing, the school which they desired their
children to attend during school year 1965-66.
15. The aforesaid “freedom of choice” plan was insti
tuted in the latter part of school year 1964-65. An inten
sive effort was made to insure that the forms whereon the
parents were to indicate the choice of school were returned.
Of some seven thousand students in the System, only about
fifteen did not, even after personal contact, return the forms
indicating choice of school, and these were assigned by the
Board to the school nearest their residence. The majority
of the pupils for whom no forms were returned were Negro
and they were assigned to white schools.
16. As a result of the “freedom of choice” plan, over
three hundred Negro pupils who had formerly attended
all Negro schools were assigned to formerly white or pre
dominantly white schools for school year 1965-66.
17. A curious practice has arisen in North Carolina
whereby in every biennieum in which the General Assembly
of North Carolina is in session, no allocation of teacher
spaces is made by the North Carolina Board of Education
to the local school systems until after the General Assem
bly has adjourned sine die. This practice resulted in the
allocation of teacher spaces for school year 1965-66 being
received by the Board somewhat later than usual.
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59a
18. As the end of school year 1964-65 approached, and
inasmuch as the Board had received no allocation of teacher
spaces for school year 1965-66, the teachers in the System
became apprehensive regarding their employment in the
System for the following year. To provide some appear
ance of security in employment, the several principals were
informed by the Board that, although the Board could
employ no one until the allocations arrived, any teacher
who signified a desire for employment in the school year
1965-66, who was recommended by the school principal,
would be promised employment upon the requisite alloca
tions being made.
19. The allocation of teacher spaces for the school year
1965-66 was received from the State of North Carolina
on or about June 25,1965, and for the first time such spaces
were allocated to the Board without reference to race, and
without designation of the school to which such spaces
were to be allocated.
20. When the allocation of teacher spaces was received
from the State, the Board applied the formula hereinafter
described, and further allocated the available spaces among
the schools in the System. Such allocation was determined
by a combination of the average daily attendance of each
school for the school year 1964-65 as modified by certain
other factors, the most important being the number of stu
dents who had transferred from one school to another
pursuant to the “ freedom of choice” plan. After such de
termination, a form letter was sent by the Board to the
several principals setting forth the number of teacher
spaces each would have.
Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Opinion
60a
21. The shifts in pupil enrollment as a result of the
“freedom of choice” plan resulted in a decrease in the
allocation of teacher spaces to the Negro schools and an
increase in the allocation of teacher spaces to formerly
white or predominantly white schools.
22. For the school year 1965-66, the Board adopted no
specific provisions to govern assignment of teachers who
might be affected by the shifting of pupil enrollment. The
Board did not solicit opinions from either teachers or
principals as to what, if any, policy might or should be
adopted. Principals were not advised as to whether teachers
whose positions were affected by the aforesaid reduced
allotments to Negro schools would be reassigned to another
school in the System.
23. The Board did not advise the several white princi
pals that they could employ Negro teachers nor Negro
principals that they could hire white teachers.
24. On June 7,1965, the Board adopted a “ Plan of Com
pliance” in accordance with Title VI of the Civil Rights
Act of 1964. Article IV, § 10 of the Plan provided that:
“The Board of Education is aware and recognizes
that school desegregation includes desegregation of
faculty and is now in process of developing a policy
whereby staff and professional personnel will be em
ployed solely on the basis of competence, training,
experience and personal qualifications and will be as
signed to and within the schools of the unit without
regard to race, color or national origin. This policy
will be put into effect immediately after it is developed,
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61a
but in any event to commence by the 1966-67 school
term.”
25. The steps to be taken toward the implementation of
the foregoing plan had not been formulated by the time
allotments for school year 1965-66 were received nor by
the beginning of the school term.
26. For the term in question, school year 1965-66, as
had been the practice in prior years, the Board did not
directly appoint teachers to teach in the System or assign
teachers from a pool of such personnel to teach in the
several schools. Instead, the Board allocated a number of
teacher spaces to the principals of the several schools who
by custom and practice were granted nearly unlimited dis
cretion regarding the employment of professional person
nel for their respective schools. This discretion included
the decision both as to teachers to be newly employed in
the school and as to those who had positions in the school
who were to be retained.
27. The only list of teachers submitted by the principal
to the Board was that containing the names of teachers
recommended by the principal for employment for the fol
lowing school year. If a principal did not recommend an
individual either for initial employment or re-employment,
the teacher’s name would never come before the Board.
28. Certain personnel practices and procedures have be
come generally accepted nationally among personnel ad
ministrators in public school systems. The granting of
almost complete authority by the school administrators in
Stanly County to the school principal with no stated cri
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62a
teria for the evaluation of teaching personnel to determine
whether or not a teacher will he allowed to teach in a
particular school during the following year is at variance
with generally accepted practices of personnel administra
tion in public school systems.
29. It is a generally accepted practice in the United
States that teachers should be evaluated by more than one
supervisor; that evaluations of the teacher should be
periodic; and that these evaluations should be flexible
enough to allow for differences in teachers and in teaching
situations.
30. The opening of school year 1965-66 found no white
teacher teaching at a predominantly or entirely Negro
school in a regular classroom situation. No Negro teacher
was so situated in a white or predominantly white school.
Likewise, Negro principals were found at Negro schools
and white principals at white or predominantly white
schools.
31. The situation described in the immediately foregoing
Finding was modified in January 1966, when a Negro
teacher was employed to teach history at North Stanly
High School, a predominantly white school.
II.
As to the Individual Plaintiff, Audrey Gillis Wall
32. Audrey Lillis Wall, A.B., M.S., is a Negro and a
teacher of unchallenged professional and educational quali
fications, who has thirteen years of teaching experience,
predominantly in Stanly County. At the time of the in
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63a
stitution of this suit, she was employed at the Oaklawn
Elementary School in Charlotte, North Carolina.
33. During the school year 1963-64, Mr. Robert E. Mc
Lendon, a Negro, was the principal of Lake view Elemen
tary School, at that time an all-Negro school. During the
year stated, McLendon reported orally to the Superin
tendent of the Stanly County School System, Mr. Luther
A. Adams, that he, McLendon, was having difficulties with
Mrs. Wall, and that he was considering not recommending
her for re-employment for school year 1964-65. During
school year 1964-65, McLendon reported to Adams con
tinued difficulties with Mrs. Wall consisting of her failure
to take her pupils to the cafeteria, and her failure to super
vise them during the lunch period.
34. McLendon testified that Mrs. Wall had a “negative
attitude, . . . argued with me about decisions, . . . defied
orders, . . . refused to do what she was told, . . . missed
more than half of the required P.T.A. programs,” and
failed to attend either the North Carolina Teachers Asso
ciation meetings or the Stanly County Teachers Association
meetings although required to attend. McLendon further
testified that Mrs. Wall was an inveterate complainer, did
not get along with her fellow teachers, and in general was
incorrigible to the point where it interferred with Mc
Lendon’s discharge of his duties as principal of the school.
35. In addition, McLendon was disturbed by the absen
teeism of Mrs. Wall. Although school was in session until
3:30 P. M., Mrs. Wall left the Lakeview School at about
2:00 P. M. each day during the greater portion of the
Spring of 1965 in order to visit a doctor in Concord, North
Carolina.
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64a
36. During the school years 1959-60 and 1960-61, Mrs.
Wall taught at West Badin, an all-Negro school at the
time. During these years, Mr. G. L. Hines, a Negro, was
the West Badin principal. Hines testified that their prin
cipal-teacher relations were not pleasant, saying that Mrs.
Wall discussed school matters in public which were of a
nature inappropriate for public discussion, and that her
conduct as a teacher was inappropriate in that when dis
turbed she would go to another teacher’s room and there
display her emotions.
37. From the testimony of these two school principals,
it is clear that Mrs. Wall possessed the general reputation
among school authorities of being a troublemaker and hard
to get along with.
38. Although McLendon held the opinion of Mrs. Wall
set forth, supra, in Finding No. 34, nevertheless, when the
Board indicated that it would employ teachers contingent
upon the receipt of the allocation of spaces (see Finding
No. 18, supra), McLendon recommended Mrs. Wall for re
employment for school year 1965-66.
39. At the time of making the foregoing recommenda
tion, McLendon had received no specific application, other
than Mrs. Wall’s, for the position in which Mrs. Wall was
teaching, although he did have applicants for positions
at the school who possessed the appropriate certificates
required to teach the grade taught by Mrs. Wall.
40. The Board approved McLendon’s recommendation
of Mrs. Wall contingent upon the allocation of the requisite
spaces by the state. The contract was not returned to Mrs.
Wall.
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41. In late June, 1965, McLendon received a form letter
from Adams notifying him of Lakeview’s teacher space
allocation for school year 1965-66. No instructions were
received by him as to the manner to he employed in re
ducing the number of teachers at Lakeview.
42. Mrs. Wall first learned that she was not to he re
employed at Lakeview in July or August, 1965. She con
tacted Adams. Adams suggested that she seek employment
in other schools of the Stanly County System hy contacting
the principals at the Richfield School, an all-white school,
and the West Badin School, an all-Negro school, since the
System was employing teachers on a non-racial basis.
43. Thereafter, Mrs. Wall made application in writing
to all the schools in the System, hut was unable to secure
employment therein. Adams contacted Gr. L. Hines, the
principal of West Badin School, regarding the possible
employment of Mrs. Wall. West Badin had a vacancy,
but, because of the aforedescribed difficulties Hines had
experienced when Mrs. Wall had taught for him, Hines
indicated that he did not want her as a teacher and re
quested that he not be ordered to employ her. Mrs. Wall
was not employed in the System during the school year
1965-66, but obtained employment in Charlotte, North
Carolina.
44. Adams made no independent evaluation of the fit
ness or lack thereof of Mrs. Wall, but only satisfied himself
that McLendon had properly evaluated her. He arrived
at the conclusion that McLendon had properly evaluated
her largely as the result of his faith in the judgment of
McLendon.
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45. Neither Adams nor the Board compared the qualifi
cations of Mrs. Wall or the severity of her alleged faults
with those of other teachers in the System.
46. The procedures which resulted in the decision not
to re-employ Mrs. Wall for school year 1965-66 are not
the procedures and practices generally accepted nationally
by personnel administrators in public school systems as
being proper or adequate in order to make a decision not
to employ a teacher on the basis of lack of fitness, whether
academic or personal. Specifically, the procedures employed
in Mrs. Wall’s case fall somewhat below the generally
accepted national norm in that (1) the accusations were
lacking in specificity, (2) such were not in writing, and
(3) no criteria were given to the teacher as to what was
expected of her or to principals as to what to expect of
teachers.
III.
As to Other Negro Teachers Allegedly the Victims of
Racial Discrimination in Re-Employment in the System
47. In addition to the individual plaintiff, Mrs. Wall,
the plaintiffs contend that three Negro teachers in the
System were deprived of constitutional rights as the result
of the System’s racially discriminatory employment prac
tices. The other alleged victims of the foregoing practices
were Mrs. Nell Holmes, Mr. Frederick Welborn and Mrs.
Edrina Davis Turner.
48. Mrs. Nell Holmes taught at West Badin High School
during school year 1965-66. She resigned from her posi
tion.
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49. Fredrick Wellborn taught at West Badin High School
during school year 1964-65. He was recommended for re
employment for school year 1965-66 by his principal, G. L.
Hines. The teacher space allocation for West Badin High
School for school year 1965-66 was less than that for school
year 1964-65. Because of other resignations, Hines initially
thought that Welborn might he retained, hut discovered he
had incorrectly computed the number of professional spaces
he was allotted. Hines was on the point of informing
Welborn that he would be unable to employ him at West
Badin High School for school year 1965-66 when he re
ceived a letter from Welborn requesting that his resigna
tion be accepted in order that he might accept employ
ment in New York.
50. Mrs. Turner (also referred to in certain portions
of the evidence as Miss Edrina Davis) taught at Lake
View Elementary School during school year 1964-65. Mr.
McLendon recommended that she be re-employed for school
year 1965-66. Believing she would be unable to teach in
school year 1965-66 because of pregnancy, she resigned
in June, 1965. Misapprehending the existence or extent
of such pregnancy, she thereafter applied for a situation
at Lakeview Elementary School but was not recommended.
She was employed during school year 1965-66 by the Sys
tem at South Oakboro School.
51. There is no evidence that any other Negro teacher
other than Mrs. Wall who taught in the System in school
year 1964-65 and who did not resign prior to being in
formed by the principal that the teachers former position
had been terminated applied for any position in the System
and was not re-employed.
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IV.
The Plan o f A pril 15, 1966.
52. On April 15, 1966, the Board, by resolution, adopted
a “ Statement of Policy” which policy provided in part:
“Staff and professional personnel shall be employed
solely on the basis of competence, training, experience
and personal qualification, and shall be assigned to
and within schools of the Administrative Unit without
regard to race, color or national origin.”
A complete and thorough set of instructions, standards
and detailed forms are included with and attached to the
“ Statement of Policy” with instructions for the use by
all those concerned with the employment of professional
personnel.
Discussion
a. Jurisdiction
The defendant contends that this Court lacks jurisdic
tion in the instant cause inasmuch as the defendant is
an agency and political subdivision of the State of North
Carolina, and as such is not subject to suit without its
consent.
Amendment XI of the United States Constitution pro
vides :
“The Judicial power of the United States shall not
be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity,
commenced or prosecuted against one of the United
States by Citizens of another State . . . ” (Emphasis
supplied)
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This, the Nation’s answer to Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dali.
419, 1 L. Ed. 440 (1793), was early held not to give juris
diction to a United States Court to entertain a suit in
stituted against a state by one of its own citizens with
out the consent of that state. Gale v. Babcock, 4 Wash.
C.C. 199, 9 Fed. Cas. 1077 (#5,188) (C.C.D.N.J. 1822).
Even if the most liberal interpretation possible were
given the Eleventh Amendment, it is doubtful that the
cases decided thereunder which denied to the United States
Courts jurisdiction of suits against a state without its
consent by a citizen of that state would be applicable to
the instant cause. Even if matters other than the asser
tion of civil rights guaranteed by the United States Con
stitution were involved, it has long been held that the fore
going restraint of the judicial power of the United States
applies only when the state is a party of record. Swasey
v. North Carolina RR. Co., 1 Hughes 17, 1 Am. Law. T.
Rep. (N.S.) 359, 71 N. C. 571, 23 Fed. Cas. 518 (#13,679)
(C.C.E.D.N.C 1874), appeal dismissed 23 Wall. 405, 23 L.
Ed. 136 (1875). In this case the State of North Carolina
is not such a party. p
It has also been held that political subdivisions of a
state can be sued in a United States Court regardless of
whether the defendant consents thereto. McCoy v. Wash
ington County, 3 Wall. Jr. 381, 7 Am. Law Reg. 193, 15
Leg. Int. 388, 15 Fed. Cas. 1341 (#8,731) (C.C.W.D. Pa.
1862).
Other cases set forth views divergent from those, supra,
but it is unnecessary to discuss here the development and
the subsequent limitation of the defense asserted by the
Stanly County Board of Education. This Court must fol
low the decision in Griffin et al v. School Bd. of Prince
Edward County, 377 U. S. 218, 228, 84 S. Ct. 1226, 12
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L. Ed. 2d 256, 263 & 264 (1964), motion for judgment
forthwith granted, 377 U. $. 950, 84 S. Ct. 1627, 12 L. Ed.
2d 496 (1964), wherein it was held that:
“It is contended that the case is an action against
the State, is forbidden by the Eleventh Amendment,
and therefore should be dismissed. The complaint,
however, charged that state and county officials were
depriving petitioners of rights guaranteed by the
Fourteenth Amendment. It has been settled law since
Ex. Parte Young, 209 U. S. 123, 52 L. Ed. 714, 28 S. Ct.
441, 13 L.R.A. N.S. 932 (1908), that suits against
state and county officials to enjoin them from invad
ing constitutional rights are not forbidden by the
Eleventh Amendment.”
b. Parties Plaintiff
The defendants contend that as to the corporate plain
tiff, The North Carolina Teachers Association, this action
should be dismissed inasmuch as the defendant never had
any legal or contractual relationship with the plaintiff
and that, therefore, the corporate plaintiff is not a proper
party to maintain the present action. No authority was
cited by the defendant for this contention. That conten
tion is best answered by the words of Judge Parker in
Alston et at v. School Board of City of Norfolk et al, 4
Cir., 112 P. 2d 992, 997, 130 A.L.R. 1506, cert. den. 311
U. S. 693, 61 S. Ct. 75, 85 L. Ed. 448 (1940):
“ . . . we have no doubt as to the Norfolk Teachers
Association being a proper party to the suit. Accord
ing to the complaint, it is a voluntary unincorporated
association and ‘is composed of Negro teachers and
principals in the public colored schools of Norfolk;’
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and the right of such an association to sue in its
common name for the purpose of enforcing substan
tive rights under the Constitution of the United States
is provided for under the Rules of Civil Procedure.
Rule 17(b), 28 U.S.C.A. following § 723(c).”
Also see NAACP v. Alabama ex rel. Patterson, 357 U. S.
449, 459, 78 S. Ct. 1163, 2 L. Ed. 2d 1488, 1498 (1958),
aff’d 360 U. S. 240, 79 S. Ct. 1001, 3 L. Ed. 2d 1205 (1959),
rehearing den. 361 U. S. 856, 80 S. Ct. 43, 4 L. Ed. 2d 96
(1959); Buford et al v. Morganton City Bd. of Education,
244 F. Supp. 437, 445 (W.D. N.C. 1965).
c. The District Court’s Responsibility
In the instant case this Court views its power and duty
to be no less than the proper sphere of responsibility as
signed to a District Court by the United States Supreme
Court in a case involving the discriminatory application
of a voting test wherein Mr. Justice Black, speaking for
that court said of the District Court:
“ . . . the court has not merely the power but the
duty to render a decree which will so far as possible
eliminate the discriminatory effects of the past as well
as bar like discrimination in the future.” Louisiana
et al v. United States, 380 U. S. 145, 154, 85 S. Ct. 817,
13 L. Ed. 2d 709, 715 (1965).
This does not mean that the Court is required to walk
strange paths or to work wonderonsly new deeds in the
contemporary toilsome, tortuous quest for equal treatment
and racial goodwill, but when such controversies are pre
sented, fraught not only with constitutional but with com
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plex social problems long in need of resolution, it is in
cumbent upon the courts to adopt as creative and activist
an approach as possible lest constitutional rights become
hollow in the face of justified, unredressed social needs
and the continuance of racial discrimination. Dror, “Law
and Social Change”, 33 Tulane Law Rev. 787, 794 (June
1959). The Supreme Court has recognized that the as
signment of pupils and the employment and assignment
of teachers are not severable problems but rather ones
which interact on one another with many of the same
principles applicable to one class of cases equally applicable
to the other. Bradley et al v. School Board of Richmond,
et al, 382 U. S. 103, 86 S. Ct. 224, 15 L. Ed. 2d 187 (1965).
Nevertheless, the late Judge Parker’s analysis of Brown
et al v. Board of Ed. of Topeka, et al, 349 U. S. 294, 75
S.Ct. 753, 99 L. Ed. 1083 (1954), is regarded as remaining
valid when, speaking for a United States District Court
of three judges, he said:
“ . . . it is important that we point out exactly what
the Supreme Court has decided and what it has not
decided in this case. It has not decided that the
federal courts are to take over or regulate the public
schools of the states. It has not decided that the
states must mix persons of different races in the
schools or must require them to attend schools or
must deprive them of the right of choosing the schools
they attend. What it has decided, and all that it has
decided, is that a state may not deny to any person
on account of race the right to attend any school that
it maintains. This, under the decision of the Supreme
Court, the state may not do directly or indirectly;
but if the schools which it maintains are open to
children of all races, no violation of the constitution
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73a
is involved even though the children of different races
voluntarily attend different schools, as they attend dif
ferent churches. Nothing in the Constitution or in
the decision of the Supreme Court takes away from
the people freedom to choose the schools they attend.
The Constitution, in other words, does not require in
tegration. It merely forbids discrimination. It does
not forbid such segregation as occurs as the result of
voluntary action. It merely forbids the use of gov
ernmental power to enforce segregation. The Four
teenth Amendment is a limitation upon the exercise
of power by the state or state agencies, not a limita
tion upon the freedom of individuals.” Briggs et al
v. Elliott et al, 132 F. Siipp. 776, 777 (E.D. S.C. 1955).
The foregoing interpretation was recently re-affirmed
in this Circuit by Bradley et al v. School Board of City
of Richmond, Virginia, 4 Cir., 345 F. 2d 310, 316 (1965),
rev. on other grounds 382 U. S. 103, 86 S. Ct. 224, 15 L. Ed.
2d 187 (1965).
It is now clear that the Fourteenth Amendment of the
United States Constitution forbids discrimination on ac
count of race by a public school system with respect to
the employment and assignment of teachers, Franklin et al
v. County School Board of Giles County et al, 4 Cir., 360
F. 2d 325, 327 (1966), and as stated by Circuit Judges
Sobeloff and Bell in a separate opinion (concurring in part
and dissenting in part) in the Bradley case, supra, 345
F. 2d, at p. 323:
“It is now . . . high time for the court to insist that
good faith compliance requires administrators of
schools to proceed actively . . . to undo the segrega
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tion which both by action and inaction has been per
sistently perpetuated.”
Further delays in the elimination of discrimination on the
basis of race in the public schools, whether among pupils
or teachers, are intolerable. Goss et al v. Board of Educa
tion et al, 373 U. S. 683, 689, 83 S. Ct. 1405, 10 L. Ed. 2d
632, 636 (1963); Rogers et al v. Paul et al, 382 U. S. 198,
86 S. Ct. 358, 15 L. Ed. 2d 265, 267 (1965); Calhoun et al
v. Latimer et al, 377 U. S. 263, 264-265, 84 S. Ct. 1235, 12
L. Ed. 2d 288, 289 (1964); Singleton et al v. Jackson Mu
nicipal School Bis. et al, 5 Cir., 355 F. 2d 865 (1966);
Kier et al v. County School Board of Augusta County,
Virginia, et al, 249 F. Supp. 239, (W.D. "V a. 1966); Bell
et al v. School Board of the City of Staunton, Virginia, et
al, 249 F. Supp. 249 (W.D. Va. 1966).
d. Analysis of the Issues
Two forms of relief are sought by the plaintiffs. The
individual plaintiff seeks an order requiring her reinstate
ment as a teacher in the System in the same or comparable
position as that she held in school year 1964-65. The cor
porate plaintiff seeks an order enjoining the defendant,
its agents, employees successors from hiring, assigning
and dismissing teachers and other professional personnel
on the basis of race or color and from continuing any
policy, custom or usage grounded on race or color.
In regard to the individual plaintiff, two issues are
presented: (1) Was the plaintiff denied due process of
law by the manner in which she was denied re-employment!
and (2) Was she denied the equal protection of the laws
by being denied re-employment because of unlawful racial
considerations ?
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In regard to the corporate plaintiff, the two issues pre
sented are: (3) Do the policies, practices and usages of
the defendant deny those of the class represented by the
corporate plaintiff equal protection of the law? and (4)
Does the defendant continue to practice racial discrimina
tion in the employment and assignment of its professional
personnel?
(1) Was the Individual Plaintiff Denied
“Due Process of Law” ?
One who seeks an answer to this issue in the General
Statutes of North Carolina seeks in vain. No procedures
are therein set forth granting to a public school teacher,
who is not recommended by her principal at the conclusion
of a school year for employment in the school during the
following school year, any right of appeal or opportunity
for the presentation of her case to the school hoard or other
county or state authorities. Counsel have cited no regula
tion to the Court granting a public school teacher the bene
fits of such formalized procedures nor does the evidence
reveal the existence of such procedures established in North
Carolina by practice or custom. The search for any court-
imposed procedures in North Carolina resulting from judi
cial interpretations of the requirements of due process of
law is equally fruitless. In addition, in North Carolina,
teachers do not get tenure and are in fact employed for
only one year at a time. General Statutes of North Caro
lina, Chapter 115, § 142.
Counsel have not cited nor has the Court been able to
find any case holding that the Due Process Clause of the
Fourteenth Amendment requires, in a State where no teach
er tenure exists, and in which the State does not provide
for notice and hearing by statute, regulation, or custom,
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76a
that the teacher, whom the principal does not intend to
recommend for re-employment for a subsequent school year,
is entitled to a formal hearing.
The Court, therefore, is of the opinion that the failure
to provide the plaintiff, Mrs. Wall, a formal hearing and
an opportunity to rebut before the Board or other author
ity the allegations against her would not be a denial of
due process of law in itself, even though the procedure
used was not, as an imminent educator testified, in accord ̂
ance with the preferable norms of personnel administra
tion.
The decision to re-employ a teacher in North Carolina
for a subsequent school term is a matter of discretion vested
in the principal, who makes the recommendation to the
superintendent and Board of Education which approve it.
However, professional personnel are not at the mercy of
any whimsical or arbitrary decision school administrators
or a County Board of Education may care to make regard
ing their retention or re-employment. There is ample au
thority grounded presumably on The Constitution of North
Carolina, Article I, § 17, that those connected with school
administration including the County Boards of Education
(and as this Court holds, also school principals) must act
“in good faith” and not “arbitrarily, capriciously or with
out just cause” or be “activated by selfish motives.” Cody
v. Barrett, 200 N. C. 43, 156 S. E. 146 (1930); Harris et al
v. Board of Education of Vance County et al, 216 N. C. 147,
4 S. E. 2d 328, 330 (1939).
Johnson v. Branch et al, 4 Cir.,------F. 2d-------(#10,281,
decided June 6, 1966), in applying the requirements of the
Fourteenth Amendment stated the case thus:
“The statute gives discretion to the school board in
deciding whether or not to continue the employment
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77a
of a teacher. Discretion means the exercise of judg
ment, not bias or capricionsness.”
To like effect, see Cramp v. Board of Public Instruction,
368 U. S. 278, 82 S. Ct. 275, 7 L. Ed. 2d 285, 293 (1961) j.
Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U. S. 488, 81 S. Ct. 1680, 6 L. Ed.
2d 982 (1961); Slocher v. Board of Education of New York,
350 U. S. 551, 76 S. Ct. 637, 100 L. Ed. 692 (1956), rehearing
den. 351 U. S. 944, 945, 76 S. Ct. 843,100 L. Ed. 1470 (1956);
Wieman et al v. Updegraff, et at, 344 U. S. 183, 73 S. Ct.
215, 97 L. Ed. 216 (1952).
It must, therefore, be determined whether Robert E.
McLendon, the principal of Lakeview Elementary School,
acted arbitrarily and capriciously in refusing to recommend
that Audrey Wall be re-employed for school year 1965-66.
The Court has made specific Findings of Fact, supra,
that Mrs. Wall was regarded by those involved in public
school administration in Stanly County as being a trouble
maker and incorrigible; that one of her former principals,
G. L. Hines of West Badin School, regarded his principal-
teacher relations with Mrs. Wall as “not being pleasant”
and that her conduct as a teacher in the school was dis
turbing.
The Court also found as facts that McLendon, after ob
serving her performance for school year 1963-64, “seri
ously” considered not recommending her for employment
in his school for school year 1964-65; that he regarded her
as being negatively orientated, insubordinate and a com-
plainer who did not “get along with her fellow teachers”
and whose attitude hampered him in the discharge of his
duties as principal—sufficiently so as to cause him to re
port some of the difficulties with Mrs. Wall to the Superin
tendent.
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In spite of the manifold irritations which McLendon
claimed to have endured as the result of Mrs. Wall’s pres
ence, he nevertheless recommended to the Superintendent,
who subsequently transmitted the recommendation to the
Board that she be employed for school year 1965-66. It is
not contended by the plaintiffs that the foregoing activity
created any contractual relations or established any prop
erty rights innring to Mrs. Wall, the benefits of which she
was deprived by the Board. That such a course of events
may be otherwise significant will be discussed, infra.
In view of the Findings of Fact, supra, supported by
ample evidence, including inferences from Mrs. Wall’s own
statements, it cannot be said that the principal acted arbi
trarily or capriciously in withdrawing his recommendation
of the plaintiff for employment for school year 1965-66
when presented with an opportunity for removing her
from his school without the necessity to replace her. It is
accordingly held that the individual plaintiff was not denied
due process of law.
(2) Was the Individual Plaintiff Denied
Equal Protection of the Lawsf
Before any effective inquiry can be made into the ques
tion of whether Mrs. Wall, by the above-described action
of her principal, was denied the equal protection of the
laws in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment, it must
first be determined on whom is the burden of proof. The
defendants contend that the burden is on the plaintiffs to
establish by the greater weight of the evidence that she or
other members of her class were not re-employed by the
defendant on the basis of race, citing Buford et al v. Mor-
ganton City Board of Education, supra; Chambers et al v.
Hendersonvill City Board of Education, 245 F. Supp. 759
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79a
(W.D. N.C. 1965); Brooks et al v. School District of City
of Moberly, Missouri, et al, 8 Cir., 267 F. 2d 733 (1959),
cert. den. 361 U. S. 894, 80 S. Ct. 196, 4 L. Ed. 2d 151 (1959);
Parker v. Board of Education of Prince George’s County,
Md., 237 F. Supp. 222 (D. Md. 1965), aff’d per curiam, 4
Cir., 348 F. 2d 464 (1965), cert, den., 382 U. S. 1030,------
S. Ct. ------, 15 L. Ed. 2d 543 (1966), rehearing den. ------
U. S .____, ------S. C t.------- , 15 L. Ed. 2d 857 (1966); and
Johnson v. Branch, et al, 242 F. Supp. 721 (E.D. N.C. 1965).
Subsequent to the submission of briefs in this ease, the
United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit
reversed the decision of the District Court in the Johnson
case, supra, (^bl0,281 Decided June 6, 1966), and also the
decision in the Chambers case, supra. In the latter case,
involving failure to renew the contracts of Negro teachers
following racial desegregation of pupils in a system for
merly segregated both as to pupils and teachers, it was
held:
“In this background, the sudden disproportionate
decimation in the ranks of the Negro teachers did raise
an inference of discrimination which thrust upon the
School Board the burden of justifying its conduct by
clear and convincing evidence. Innumerable cases
have clearly established the principle that under cir
cumstances such as this where a history of racial dis
crimination exists, the burden of proof has been thrown
upon the party having the power to produce the facts.
In the field of jury discrimination see: (cases cited)
. . . The defendants’ reliance on Brooks v. School Dis
trict of City of Moberly, Missouri, 267 F. 2d 733 (8
Cir. 1959) is not well founded. In that case the School
Board had promptly proceeded to desegregate follow
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80a
ing the Brown case. Furthermore, the facts showed
that the School Board, prior to the end of the school
year, carefully compared the qualifications of all the
teachers, using previously established uniform stan
dards. The procedure resulted in the failure to rehire
both white and Negro teachers.” Chambers et al v.
Hendersonville City Board of Education, 4 C ir.,------
F. 2 d ------, (#10,379 Decided June 6, 1966).
The facts in the Chambers case differ materially from
those in the case at bar. There the number of Negro teach
ers, following disestablishment of racial segregation among
pupils, was reduced by two-thirds. In the instant case, the
evidence shows that only one Negro teacher, the individual
plaintiff, Audrey Gfillis Wall, among those teachers alleged
to have been denied re-employment for school year 1965-66
on the basis of race, who indicated a desire to teach in the
System in school year 1965-66, was not rehired by the
System. There is no “sudden disproportionate decimation
in the ranks of the Negro teachers” here.
“One swallow doth not a summer make,” and this Court
entertains serious doubts as to whether the decision of the
Court of Appeals in the Chambers case regarding burden
of proof in a case involving the failure to re-employ a
Negro teacher following disestablishment of pupil racial
segregation should, following a finding of a failure to re
hire only one Negro teacher, shift the burden of proof to
the defendant Board of Education. Nevertheless, such
would seem to be the trend and the Chambers doctrine as
enunciated by the Court of Appeals of this Circuit on the
matter of burden of proof in such cases is adhered to.
When considering the plaintiff’s rights under the Equal
Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, more
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81a
must be done than to determine whether there were any
forms or procedures the benefit of which might have been
denied to the plaintiff, or to determine whether the school
principal as an agent or employee of the defendant exer
cised his discretion in good faith and not arbitrarily or
capriciously.
As the matter was stated in Wheeler et al v. Durham
City Board of Education, 4 Cir.,------F. 2 d ------- (#10,460
Decided July 5, 1966) wherein the Court of Appeals, com
menting on Bradley et al v. School Board of Richmond, 382
U. S. 103, 86 S. Ct. 224, 15 L. Ed. 2d 187 (1965), said:
“We read the decision as authority for the proposi
tion that removal of race considerations from faculty
selection and allocation is, as a matter of law, an in
separable and indispensable command within the abo
lition of pupil segregation in public schools as pro
nounced in Brown v. Board of Education, supra, 347
U. S. 483.”
* * *
“The only factual issue is whether or not race was a
factor entering into the employment and placement of
teachers.”
To the same effect, see Franklin et al v. County School
Board of Giles County, et al, supra, 360 F. 2d 325; Brad
ford v. School District No. 20, Charleston, S. C., et al, 4
Cir., ------ F. 2d ------ (#10,280 Decided June 6, 1966);
Chambers et al v. Hendersonville City Board of Education,
supra; Board of Public Instruction of Duval County, Fla.,
et al v. Braxton et al, 5 Cir., 326 F. 2d 616, 620 (1964), cert,
den. 377 U. S. 924, 84 S. Ct. 1223, 12 L. Ed. 2d 216 (1964).
It is now clear that the Equal Protection Clause of the
Fourteenth Amendment requires that when pupil desegre
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82a
gation necessitates the reduction in teacher spaces in Negro
schools, the Negro teachers occupying those spaces do not
thereby automatically lose their positions, but, on the con
trary must be evaluated for such positions for which they
are qualified as exist in the entire system and not merely
for such vacancies as may exist at the time such teacher
receives notice that the position formerly held has been
terminated. Franklin et al v. County School Board of
Giles County, supra; Chambers et al v. Hendersonville City
Board of Education, supra. Such teacher must not be
treated as a new applicant but must be considered on a
comparative basis with all white and Negro teachers seek
ing re-employment. Christmas et al v. Board of Education
of Harford County, Md., et al, 231 F. Supp. 331 (D. Md.
1964).
It is obvious that if the teacher spaces at Lakeview had
not been reduced, Mrs. Wall would have been re-employed
for the school year 1965-66. There is creditable evidence
from the depositions of McLendon and Hines that Mrs.
Wall’s attitude, temperament, lack of personal discipline
and general failure to devote her abilities to the perform
ance of her work seriously affected her value as a teacher.
Her classroom ability, isolated from her personal traits, is
unquestioned, and it is apparent that McLendon was will
ing to retain her with her deficiencies rather than incur
her disfavor and the risk of an untried teacher. The oppor
tunity came for him to re-evaluate Mrs. Wall’s qualifica
tions, consider and exercise his discretion and he did so.
It is not considered highly significant, in view of the facts,
that initially he recommended her for re-employment.
The question appears to the Court to be that of what
motivated the decision not to retain her, rather than a
mere determination of the ultimate cause for the failure
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to re-employ her. Was the decision based on race and
reduced teacher spaces or was the decision motivated by
other and proper considerations!
In the present case, the facts are not those in Franklin et
al v. County School Board of Giles County et at, supra,
wherein not only did pupil desegregation and the closing
of Negro school result in all Negro teachers not being re
hired but the administrators in that school system failed
to treat the Negro teachers as they had previously treated
displaced white teachers. Neither are the facts in the pres
ence case those found in Chambers et al v. Hendersonville
City Board of Education, supra, wherein the Negro teacher
population was reduced by two-thirds and there existed a
stated policy to limit Negro teacher re-employment to a
number corresponding with the number of Negro pupils
in the school system. There is not involved in this case
an attempt to penalize a teacher for exercising rights of
free speech and assembly guaranteed by the First Amend
ment. Johnson v. Branch et al, supra.
Subsequent to her receipt of notification that she would
not be re-employed at Lakeview Elementary School for
school year 1965-66, Mrs. Wall applied for employment at
West Badin School whose principal was the aforementioned
Hines, for whom she had formerly taught. Superintendent
Adams contacted Hines about Mrs. Wall’s employment at
his school. Hines requested Adams that he not be required
to take her. In his deposition, Hines stated his reasons
for not wanting her as a teacher at his school, and his
description of his (reinforced by the fact that he had known
her for almost two decades) principal-teacher relations
with her substantiated the description of McLendon’s ex
periences.
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The action of McLendon might he constitutionally sus
pect if there did not here exist the most cogent of evidence
substantiating the reasons advanced by McLendon for not
recommending Mrs. Wall for re-employment for school year
1965-66 following the receipt of the new teacher space allo
cations. The Court is of the opinion that under these facts,
it having been shown that Mrs. Wall by temperament, dis
position and attitude was unworkable in the System, the
cases requiring an objective and comparative evaluation
with all other teachers are not controlling.
(3) Were any Other Negro Teachers Denied Constitu
tional Rights Under the Equal Protection or Due
Process Clausef
The plaintiffs have contended that three other Negro
teachers, Mrs. Edrina Davis Turner, Mrs. Nell Holms and
Mr. Frederick Welborn were victims of racial discrimina
tion in re-employment in the System.
As indicated in Part (d)(2), supra, of this Opinion, the
burden of proof in this case is taken by this Court to rest
with the defendant herein, but those cases, applying the
burden in such manner, can only be held to apply when
those allegedly discriminated against have either initially
applied or re-applied for a position in the System and thus
indicated a desire to teach in the System and have not, in
fact, been re-employed therein.
This Court has found, and the evidence confirms, that
Mrs. Turner, Mrs. Holms and Mr. Welborn submitted for
mal resignations to their principals prior to the receipt of
notice by those teachers that their former positions had
been terminated.
Mrs. Turner was in fact during school year 1965-66 em
ployed in the System at a different school and has no
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85a
ground for complaint. Mrs. Holms resigned and there is
no indication that she wished employment in the System
or attempted to secure it. Welborn obtained employment
in New York and there is no indication that he applied
for any position in the System other than that formerly
held by him, which he relinquished by resignation.
Accordingly, the defendant School Board is under no
duty to produce evidence indicating why these teachers
were not considered in an objective, comparative manner
with other teachers who taught in the System in school
year 1965-66.
(4) Do the Present Employment Practices of the
Board Deny Those Represented by the Corporate
Plaintiff Due Process of Law and Equal Protec
tion of the Laws?
The plaintiffs request an injunction forbidding the
Board to continue alleged racial discrimination in the
employment and assignment of teachers. The essential
contention of the plaintiffs is that the plan adopted by
the Board on April 15, 1966, (Plaintiff’s Ex. 5) (herein
after referred to as the “Plan” ) constitutes little, if any,
change in the policy from that under which the Board
operated in school year 1965-66 and under which faculty
desegregation, while not totally absent, has been negligible
and further that it is designed to perpetuate the condi
tions then existing.
As stated in part “c” , supra, of this Opinion, the elimina
tion of racial discrimination in the employment and as
signment of teachers in public school cannot be considered
as something separate from the elimination of discrimina
tion in pupil assignments.
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As the court (with slightly different facts) in Kier et al
v. County School Board of Augusta County, Virginia, et al,
supra, at p. 246 has stated the matter:
“Where, as here, the school authorities have chosen
to adopt a freedom of choice plan which imposed
upon the individual student, or his parent, the duty
of choosing in the first instance the school which he
will attend (and where the burden of desegregating
is imposed upon the individual Negro student or his
parents), it is essential that the ground rules of the
plan be drawn with meticulous fairness. ‘The ideal
to which a freedom of choice plan must ultimately
aspire, as well as any other desegregation plan, is
that school hoards will operate ‘schools’, not ‘Negro
schools’ or ‘white schools’.’ Brown v. County School
Bd., supra, 245 F. Supp. at 560. See Bradley v. School
Bd., supra, 345 F. 2d at 324 (dissenting opinion).
Freedom of choice, in other words, does not mean a
choice between a clearly delineated ‘Negro school’
(having an all-Negro faculty and staff) and a ‘white
school’ with all-white faculty and staff). School au
thorities who have heretofore operated dual school
systems for Negroes and whites must assume the duty
of eliminating the effects of dualism before a freedom
of choice plan can be superimposed upon the pre
existing situation and approved as a final plan of
desegregation. It is not enough to open the pre
viously all-white schools to Negro students who desire
to go there while all-Negro schools continue to be
maintained as such. Inevitably, Negro children will
be encouraged to remain in ‘their school,’ built for
Negroes and maintained for Negroes with all-Negro
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87a
teachers and administrative personnel. See Bradley
v. School Bd., supra, 345 F. 2d at 324 (dissenting
opinion). This encouragement may he subtle but it
is nonetheless discriminatory. The duty rests with the
School Board to overcome the discrimination of the
past, and the long-established image of the ‘Negro
school’ can be overcome under freedom of choice only
by the presence of an integrated faculty.”
The plaintiffs contend that the Plan falls short of the
Constitutional requirements for such plans citing several
cases in support of their contention.
The teacher assignment plan in Kiev et al v. County
Board of Augusta County, Virginia, et al, supra, at p. 247,
was held constitutionally defective because it did not in
dicate that teachers would be assigned to each school in
the system regardless of race. The Plan of the defendant
herein provides:
“Staff and professional personnel . . . shall be as
signed to and within the schools of the Administrative
Unit without regard to race, color, or national origin.”
(Emphasis supplied)
Bell et al v. School Board of City of Staunton, Virginia,
et al, supra, in regard to teacher assignments contains no
analysis of what is constitutionally permissible in a case
such as that at bar, but merely considers re-employment
rights of Negro teachers displaced as the result of the dis
establishment of pupil segregation.
This Court does not regard the Equal Protection and
Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment nor
does it read the opinions of the Court of Appeals of this
Circuit, a Court which has been in the vanguard of judicial
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88a
efforts to remove the heavy and insensate hand of racial
discrimination from pupil assignments and teacher em
ployment, as requiring this Court to order the defendant
to adopt a plan such as that required by the Court in
Dowell v. School Board of Oklahoma, 244 F. Supp. 971,
978 ("W.D. Okla. 1965) which not only required the defen
dant to proceed toward a goal of obtaining the “same ap
proximate percentage of non-white teachers in each school
as there now are in the system” but prohibited the School
Board therein from wholly delegating to the school prin
cipals the authority to select teachers.
This Court regards the principal enunciated by the
Court of Appeals in regard to pupil assignment to be
equally applicable to the employment and assignment of
teachers:
“As we clearly stated in Jeffers v. Whitley, 309 F. 2d
621, 629 (4 Cir. 1962), the appellants are not entitled
to an order requiring the defendants to effect a gen
eral intermixture of races in the schools but they are
entitled to an order enjoining the defendants from
refusing admission to any school to any pupil because
of the pupil’s race.” Bradley et al v. School Board
of City of Richmond, Virginia, 4 Cir., 317 F. 2d 429,
438 (1963). (Emphasis supplied)
The subsequent history of the case is not regarded as
modifying the principle so enunciated.
In Wright et al v. County School Board of Greenville
County, Va., 252 F. Supp. 378 (D.D. Va. 1966); Thompson
et al v. County School Bd. of Hanover County et al, 252
F. Supp. 546 (D.D. Va. 1966); Turner et al v. County
School Board of Goochland County, Va., 252 F. Supp. 578
(E.D. Va. 1966), the plans of the defendant school boards
were held to be constitutionally defective as being “too
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89a
limited.” The cases, however, contain no analysis or dis
cussion of the several plans nor do they set forth any
guidelines as to what manner of plan would meet con
stitutional standards. The “plans” themselves as set forth
in the opinions are little more than one-paragraph state
ments of policy and unlike the Plan of the defendant
herein, contain no detailed methods and procedures which
must be complied with by all concerned in order to elimi
nate discrimination. The cases cited, supra, can thus pro
vide little guidance for this Court.
The plaintiff also contends that the Plan is violative
of the new guidelines and standards promulgated by the
Office of Education of the Department of Health, Educa
tion and Welfare pursuant to 42 U.S.C.A. § 2000(d) et seq.
compliance with which is a condition precedent for obtain
ing the various federal funds now deemed essential to
the operation of a public school.
To say that the plan fails to meet the criteria estab
lished by a Department of the Executive Branch of the
government, which for policy reasons may impose what
ever conditions it wishes on the recipients of its benefits,
(with the proviso that such conditions must be, in accord
ance with law, not constitutionally defective by reason of
arbitrariness or capriciousness), is not to say that the
Plan is constitutionally defective. The Court does not,
however, make a finding as to whether the Plan complies
with the aforesaid guidelines and standards. The standards
by which the Court must judge the Plan emanate from
the Constitution. The courts cannot abdicate their respon
sibility for determining whether a school desegregation
plan violates constitutional rights and defer to standards
established by the Executive Branch of the Government.
Kemp et al v. Beasley et al, 8 Cir., 352 F. 2d 14, 19 (1965);
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90a
Singleton et at v. Jackson Municipal Separate School List,
et al, supra.
In order to make such determination, the totality of
the Plan must he considered. The plaintiff contends that
the Plan advances the method of employment, re-employ
ment and assignment of teachers little beyond the methods
and procedures which prevailed in school year 1965-66
which former method, resulted in little faculty desegrega
tion.
The Court is of the opinion that the plaintiffs greatly
underrate the scope and thrust of the defendant’s Plan.
The Plan is viewed as being materially different from the
procedures employed in school year 1965-66. It establishes
the most meticulous standards and procedures for rating
and evaluating the teachers in the System. Almost every
facet of the teacher, the teacher’s performance, testing,
training, personality, effectiveness, family, record of ab
senteeism, physical condition, etc., is recorded in detail.
Exact guidelines for the preparation and the standards
and methods by which the aforesaid attributes of the
teacher are to be evaluated are likewise contained in the
Plan. A portion of the information, indeed, an important
portion to the principal who is interviewing and evaluat
ing the teacher, is strictly objective information—i.e., re
sults on national teacher’s examinations, days absent from
employment, education. Each year a detailed evaluation
sheet must be prepared by the principal for each teacher
in his school, including those he does not recommend, in
cluding a detailed summary of problems which have arisen
with that teacher and what the principal has done to re
solve or eliminate them.
*
It is this mass of highly detailed information required
by the Plan which will cause discrimination by anyone in
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91a
the System regarding the employment, re-employment or
assignment of teachers to be almost immediately patent
and, therefore, as a practical matter, impossible. In no
case examined by the Court has a Plan of such compre
hensiveness in evaluation been found.
The plaintiffs have attacked that portion of the inter
view form adopted by the Board whereby it is indicated:
“Is applicant willing to teach in the following situa
tions? (check)
Integrated ---------
All white ---------
All Colored------- ”
The Court finds nothing, per se, wrong with this portion
of the interview form. It could be subject to abuse but
only its use will so reveal. It can also be of value to the
several principals and the superintendent in the integra
tion of school facilities. As the court in Wheeler et al v.
Durham City Board of Education, supra, indicated, there
are probably numerous new applicants for teaching posi
tions who would welcome the opportunity and the challenge
afforded in teaching students of ethnic and cultural back
grounds different from themselves.
The courts in Wanner et al v. County School Board of
Arlington County, Va., 4 Cir., 357 F. 2d 452, 454 & 455
(1966) and Olson v. Board of Ed. of Union Free Sch. Dist.
No. 12, Malverne, N. Y., et al, 250 F. Supp. 1000, 1010
(E.D. N.Y. 1966) held that although the Constitution is
supposedly colorblind, courts may nevertheless, in school
desegregation cases, allow school authorities to make some
references to race in eliminating racial discrimination. It
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92a
is not believed that the Board here has transgressed fur
ther than the allowable area.
Even if the applicant is possessed of racial prejudice
and would be unwilling to teach in a racially integrated
situation, it is preferable to know this fact at the outset
of the interview rather than on the first day of school. As
the court stated in Bradley et al v. School Board of City
of Richmond, Virginia, supra, 345 F. 2d at 316:
“There is no hint of a suggestion of a constitutional
requirement that a state must forbid voluntary asso
ciations or limit an individual’s freedom of choice ex
cept to the extent that each individual’s freedom of
choice may be affected by the equal right of others.”
No Constitutional objection to the Plan is found.
C onclusions of L aw
1. The Court has jurisdiction of the parties and the
subject matter of the controversy.
2. The objection of the defendant to the jurisdiction of
the Court is overruled.
3. The motion of the defendant to strike the corporate
plaintiff as a party plaintiff is denied.
4. The individual plaintiff was not denied Due Process
of Law or Equal Protection of the Law by the defendant.
5. No person among those alleged has been denied Due
Process of Law or the Equal Protection of the Law by the
defendant.
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93a
6. The Plan adopted by the defendant is not constitu
tionally objectionable.
7. The application for reinstatement of the individual
plaintiff is denied.
8. The request of the corporate plaintiff for an injunc
tion is denied.
9. The motion of the defendant to dismiss should be
allowed.
Counsel for the defendant will prepare and submit to
the Court an appropriate judgment.
Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Opinion
September 15, 1966
E ugene A. G ordon
United States District Judge
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Judgment
Pursuant to the Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law
and Opinion rendered herein by the Court on September
16, 1966, and for the reasons therein stated, it is adjudged
the plaintiffs have not established the right to any of the
relief prayed for in the complaint, and the complaint hereby
is dismissed.
E ntered , September 26, 1966.
/ s/ E ugene A. G ordon
United States District Judge
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To: Henry C. D o b y , Jr., Esq.
P. 0. Box 806
Albemarle, North Carolina
S t a t o n P. W il l ia m s , E sq .
501-504 Hill Building
Albemarle, North Carolina
Plaintiffs request that the defendant, the Stanly County
Board of Education, answer under oath in accordance with
Rule 33 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the fol
lowing interrogatories:
1. Please list for each public school in the Stanly County
School System for the 1964-65 school year:
(a) The grades served in each school;
(b) Number of Negro pupils assigned to each school;
(c) Number of white pupils in attendance at each
school;
(d) The planned pupil capacity of each school;
(e) Average class size for each school;
(f) Number of Negro teachers and other administra
tive or professional personnel employed at each
school;
(g) Number of white teachers and other administra
tive or professional personnel employed at each
school.
2. Please state any difference in course offerings, at each
school, if any, during the 1965-66 school year, not
offered during the 1964-65 school year.
3. Please list for each school:
Interrogatories
96a
(a) The name, educational training, certificate, and
years of experience of each teacher and admin
istrative or professional personnel during the
1964- 65 school year;
(b) The name, educational training, certificate, and
years of experience of each teacher and admin
istrative or professional personnel during the
1965- 66 school year.
4. Please attach a pay schedule for teachers and profes
sional personnel for the 1965-66 school year.
5. Please state the supplementary salaries or travel ex
penses allotted to coaches and industrial arts teachers
at each school.
6. Please state the procedure or criteria used to deter
mine the allotment of teachers and administrative or
professional personnel at each school.
7. Please state the number of Negro students who trans
ferred for the 1965-66 school year from the following
schools to predominantly white schools:
(a) West Badin;
(b) Lakeview;
(c) South Oakboro.
8. Please state the number of students by race attending
schools in the Albemarle administrative school unit
and the name of the school or schools attended.
P lease take notice that a copy of such answers must be
served upon the undersigned within fifteen (15) days after
service.
Interrogatories
This 5th day of October, 1965.
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The Defendant, The Stanly County Board of Education,
answers the interrogatories served upon it by the Plaintiffs
and dated the 5th day of October 1965, as follows:
Interrogatory No. 1. Please list for each public school
in the Stanly County School System for the 1964-65 school
year:
a) The grades served in each school.
Answer: The grades served in each school are set forth
in Schedule I (a) hereto attached.
b) The number of Negro pupils assigned to each school.
Answer: The number of Negro pupils assigned to each
school is set forth in Schedule I (h) hereto attached.
c) The number of white pupils in attendance at each
school.
Answer: The number of white pupils in attendance at
each school is set forth in Schedule I (c) hereto attached.
d) The planned pupil capacity of each school.
Answer: The planned pupil capacity of each school is
set forth in Schedule I (d) hereto attached.
e) Average class size for each school.
Answer: Average class size for each school is set forth
in Schedule 1 ( e ) hereto attached.
f) Number of Negro teachers and other administrative
or professional personnel employed at each school.
Answer: Number of Negro teachers and other adminis
trative or professional personnel employed at each school
is set forth in Schedule 1( f ) hereto attached.
Answers to Interrogatories
98a
g) Number of white teachers and other administrative
or professional personnel employed at each school.
Answer: Number of white teachers and other adminis
trative or professional personnel employed at each school
is set forth in Schedule I (g) hereto attached.
Interrogatory No. 2. Please state any difference in course
offerings, at each school, if any, during the 1965-66 school
year, not offered during the 1964-65 school year.
Answer: The differences in course offerings, at each
school, if any, during the 1965-66 school year, not offered
during the 1964-65 school year, are set forth in Schedule II,
hereto attached.
Interrogatory No. 3. Please list for each school:
a) The name, educational training, certificate, and years
of experience of each teacher and administrative or pro
fessional personnel during the 1965-66 school year.
Answer: The name, educational training, certificate, and
years of experience of each teacher and administrative or
professional personnel during the 1964-65 school year, in
sofar as possessed by the defendant, are set forth in Sched-
ule III (a) hereto attached.
b) The name, educational training, certificate, and years
of experience of each teacher and administrative or pro
fessional personnel during the 1965-66 school year.
Answer: The name, educational training, certificate, and
years of experience of each teacher and administrative or
professional personnel during the 1965-66 school year are
set forth in Schedule III (b) hereto attached.
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99a
Interrogatory No. 4. Please attach a pay schedule for
teachers and professional personnel for the 1965-66 school
year.
Answer: A pay schedule for teachers and professional
personnel for the 1965-66 school year is attached hereto as
Schedule IV.
Interrogatory No. 5. Please state the supplementary sal
aries or travel expenses allotted to coaches and industrial
arts teachers at each school.
Answer: Supplementary salaries or travel expenses al
lotted to coaches and industrial arts teachers at each school
are set forth in Schedule V hereto attached.
Interrogatory No. 6. Please state the procedure or cri
teria used to determine the allotment of teachers and ad
ministrative or professional personnel at each school.
Answer: A statement of the procedure or criteria used
to determine the allotment of teachers and administrative
or professional personnel at each school is set forth in
Schedule VI, attached hereto.
Interrogatory No. 7. Please state the number of Negro
students who transferred for the 1965-66 school year from
the following schools to predominantly white schools: (a)
West Badin; (b) Lakeview; (c) South Oakboro.
Answer: The number of Negro students who transferred
for the 1965-66 school year from the following schools to
predominantly white schools is as follows:
Answers to Interrogatories
a) West Badin — 120
b) Lake View 72
c) South Oakboro — 1
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Interrogatory No. 8. Please state the number of students
by race attending schools in the Albemarle administrative
school unit and the name of the school or schools attended.
Answer: The defendant does not have any knowledge of
or possession of any facts with reference to the number of
students by race attending schools in the Albemarle admin
istrative school unit or the name of the school or schools
attended by such students..
This 18th day of October, 1965.
Answers to Interrogatories
SCHEDULE I
(See Opposite)
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1. PLEASE LIST FOP EACH PUBLIC SCHOOL ITT TPS STANLY COUNTY SYSTEM FOR THE lr'6't-o5 SCHOOL YEAR
SCHOOL
(a)
GRADES
SERVED
(b)
NO. NEGRO PUPILS
ASSIGNED
(c)
NO. WHITE
PUPILS ASSIGNED
(d)
■1AXIKUM SCII.
CAPACITY
(e)
AVERAGE CLASS
SIZE
(£) 1
NO. NEGRO TEACHERS
OTHER PERSONNEL
TEACHERS OTHER
U)
NO. WHITE TEACHERS
OTHER PERSONNEL
TEACHERS OTHERS
Aquadale 1-8 327 527 27.3 12 T
Badin 1-8 321 868 29.2 1 11 6
Endy 1-8 260 165 26 10 6
Lake View 1-8 283 279 2 6 .6 9 1/2 1
Locust 1-8 335 310 27.11 12 8.
Millingport 1-8 280 150 31.1 9 8
Hew London 1-8 529 868 30.1 17 1/2 11
Forth Stanly 9-12 2 672 682 20.12 2 33 12
Norwood 1-3 700 775 28 2 25 9
Oakboro 1-8 193 775 29 17 11
Richfield 1-8 2 U9 372 29-3 8 1/2 6
Ridg-ecrest 1-8 16 8 310 28 6 _ J ______
South Oakboro 1-8 1 2 6 150 30.2 ~ 1 2 m
South Stanly 9-12 511 620 17.1 3-0_______ 1 0
Stanfield 1-8 299 527 27.2 11 8
West Badin 1-12 133 558 22.1 19 1/2 8
West Stanly 9-12 653 682 18.3 3l 1/2 10
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102 a
SCHEDULE II
(See Opposite)
Please state any differences in course offerings, at each school, if any, during
the 19 6 5 - 6 6 school year, not offered during the I96H-6 5 school year.
AQUADALE None
BAD IN Art, part-time librarian, Phy. Ed. in 7th and 8th grade
ENDY None
LAKE VIEW None
LOCUST ' None
MILLIHGPORT Dual Reading Textbook - Grades 7 & 8
NEW LONDON None
NORTH STANLY Dramatics, Spanish, Sociology and Economics, Food and Clothing,
Horticulture, Graphic Arts
NORWOOD None
OAKBORO Chorus
RICHFIELD Dual Reading Textbook - 7 * 8 grades
RIDGECREST None
SOUTH OAKBORO None
SOUTH STANLY Spanish, Journalism
STANFIELD None
WEST BADIN Civics, Introduction to Vocations
WEST STANLY Boys Home Economics, Government, Democary, Economics, Marketing I,
Home Economics III
SCHEDULE II
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104a
SCHEDULE III (a)
(See Opposite)
3(a) Please list for each school: 196U-65
SCHOOL: Aquadale
a
b
rrrp *
Linda S.
a Katherin ti.
EDUCATIONAL
TRAINING CERTIFICATE
YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE
Horton Clemson - B. S.
U. N. C. - M. E.
Principal-A 17
. Cameron Queens - A. B. Eng., Soc. St.-A 17
Huncycutt Pfeiffer - A. B. Business - A 0
Sigmon Meredith, Catawba G. G. - A 71
Abernathy Appalachian - A. B. G. G. — A 3
5
2 1
Abernathy
. A. Horne
Appalachian - A. B.
Asheville - B. S.
G. G. — A
G. G. — A
R. F.evell
Lorder
Appalachian - A. B.
Pfeiffer - A. B.
Primary - A
G. G. - A
25
0
Wilson U.N.C., Appalachian - M.E. vSec. Unlimited— . 27
f'C ~Snu£2S______
Ferrell
Flora McDonald...... .......
Woman's College, U.N.C.
A Emergency B ..... — ■-
G. G. — A
0
6
Houck Appalachian - B. S. Primary - A 19
Thomason Flora MacDonald ‘"G. G. - B 2
Badin
Elvin M. Fisher, Jr.
Earl C. Smith
Jerry P. Almond
Margaret R. Dunlap
Rachel H. Lovder
Pzriiin am aiky
Pauline B. Alernethy
Jane 0. Lefko
Peggy R. Ross
Daisie W. Holmes
Josie Chris c o
Allene H. Winfree
Endv
Fred S. Hopkins
iinBLlxExxMzkMiJia*
Joel F. McLendon
Sue S. Page
Sally A. Youngblood
Horace H. Mabry
Betty B. Welch
Edna. F. Edwards
Carolyn H. Burleson
Lillie R. Lisenby
Grace R. Speight
Pfeiffer - B. S. Sci., Phy.Ed., Hist.-A 6
Pfeiffer - A. B. P h y . Ed., History-A 0
Appalachian - A. B. Social Studies 6
Duke - A. B. G. G. - A 20
Pfeiffer - A. B. G. G. - G 6
Appalachian - M. E.
lbAppalachian - B. S. Grammar - A
Pfeiffer - A. B. Grammar - A 0
U. N. C. - A. B. Primary - A 9
Catawba, - Primary - B ......— ... 29.'z.yt.«—— ---
U. N. C. - A. B. Primary - A U3
Winthrop - A. B. Grammar - A 25
Pfeiffer - B. S. Principal - A 6
U.N.C. - Principal
Appalachian - B. S.
Pfeiffer - A. B.
U. N. C. - A. B.
Appalachian -
Lenoir Rhyne - A. B.
Bust Carolina - A. B.
Pfeiffer - A. B.
Catawba - A. B.
High Point ,
Phy. Ed,,SS - A
Social Studies - A
Primary - A
Music - A
Grammar - A
Primary - A
Primary - A
Primary - A
Primary - A
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SCHOOL: Lake View
EDUCATIONAL YEARS OF
rrrp A r~Ttoo xiiAv.>riiLX\ TRAINING CERTIFICATE EXPERIENCE
Robert E. McLendon A &.T - Mathematics - A 11
Melvin J. Rush Livingstone Science - A 3
Grace J. Bryant Johnson C. Smith Grammar - A 9
Fannie F. Coley Shaw University Grammar - A lb
Geraldine R. Taylor Stillman Grammar - A 3
Wanda W. Ccgdell Winston-Salem Primary - A 2
Audrey G. wall Barber-Scotia - B. £>. Primary - G 15
A & T - M. A.
Zdrena Davis Livingstone Primary - A 0
Mary S. Winfield Fayetteville State Primary - A 7
Viola P. Nichols N. C. College,Durham S. St. , Library 10
SCHOOL: Locust
Norman W. Maples W. C. C. - M. A. Principal - G 13
Olive B. Diggers Appalachian - A. B. H. Ec. , Science - A 15
Vernon Hunsucker Pfeiffer - A. B. H., P. E.,Bio.,Dr.Ed.-A 5
James D. Kennedy Wake Forrest - Social Studies - A 3
Faye R. Skidmore Winthrop - A. B. Unlimited - A 39
Sallie H. Bowers Meredith, E. C. C. Grammar - A 31
Margaret E. S'nipton University of S. C.- M. E. Elementary - G 8
Inez S. Helms U. N. C. - A. B. Primary - A hi
Odessa L. Hatley . w. c. c. Primary - B 19
Ann H. Lane Appalachian - A. B. Prmmary - A 2
Jacqueline R. Wilson W. C. C. - A. B. Primary - A 1
Rena V. Efira Lenori Rhyne - A. B. Primary - A 31
SCHOOL: Millingport
Bobby G. Owens Pfeiffer,A.B.
U.N.C. - M. A. Principal - G 7
Vernon E. Lentz Appalachian, Pfeiffer, A.B. Phy. Ed., Biology-A 6
Mary D. Hauss] Appalachian - B. S. Gen. Sci., H. Ec. - A 10
Marvin H. Rouse Appalachian - B. S. Principal. - A 13
Irene T. Peck Appalachian - B. S. Grammar - A 12
Evelyn W. Allred Elon - A. B. Primary - A 7
Vina H. Elder High Point - A. B. Grammar - A 25
Virgie H. Whitley Lenoir-Rhyne - A.B. Grammar - A 29
0Elizabeth M. Licari Pfeiffer - A. B. Primary - A
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SCHOOL: New London
EDUCATIONAL y e a :
TEACHER TRAINING CERTIFICATE e x p :
J. Frank Turner Lenoir Rhyne - A. B. Principal - A 37
ooae-oh K. Frick Pfeiffer - A. B. Bio., Phy.Ed.,Health 2
Margaret B. Ivey Florida State, Montreat Bible - A 6
Mary S. Chestnut Wake Forest - Hist. , Music - A 7
Christine M. Clayton U. N.Q. - __ y Primary - B 22
Sandra B. Biles -_ -------- Pfeiffer ... ... ...... . ........ / Emergency - B U
Thomas W. Ward Duke - A. B. Hist., Economics - A ' 3̂
Iidon i** • StlclL-l Catavba - A. B. Grammar - A 22
Lenoir Rhyne - A. B. Eng., History - A lb
Lucile H. Harris U. N. C. - A. B. Secondary - A 20
Esther B. Gaddy .... .. - Appalachian.- ✓ P̂rimary - B . 11
Frances M. Efird U. N. C. - A. B. Primary - A 8
Elisabeth C. Harvard Pfeiffer - A. B. Primary - A 0
Mary W. Lyerly Catawba - A. B. Grammar - A 23
Mary W. Taylor Appalachian - B. S. Primary - A 21
Gladys I. Fesoeman Catawba - A. B. Primary - A 38
Callie M. Goodman St. Mary’ s, Catawba Primary - A 35
SCHOOL: North Stanly
Paul W. Peddicord Furman, Duke, Doctor’ s Degree Principal - A
Suzanne B. Smith Pfeiffer - A. B. Commerce - A
Geraldine R. Chrisco U. N. C. - BSSA Commerce - A
JoAnne F. Hildreth Sppalachian - B. S. Eng., Lib. Sci.- A
Donna W. Hearne Pfeiffer - A. B. Commerce - A
Nelson P. Burr Pfeiffer - A. B. Eng., History - A
Lonnie R. Chandler Catawba - B. S. Health, Phy.Ed., Bio.-.
Jack D. Fesperman Catawba - A. B. Sci., Health,Phy.Ed. -.
Conrad N. Austin Pfeiffer - A. B. Mathematics - A
Foy Gene Powell Western N.Mexico Music - A
Joe F. Harris Pfeiffer, Catawba P.E., Health,Bio.,Hist
Mattie B. Kelly U.N.C. - A. B. Bio. , Phy. Ed. - A
Mary E. Latham Pfeiffer-A. B.
U.N. C. - M. A. Eng.,Bio.,Chem.,Sci. -
Johnny W. Chestnut Pfeiffer S.St., Hist., Geog. - -
Palmer M. Dulin Clemson, U. N. C. Math - G
Georgette L. Bower Lenoir Rhyne, A. B. Eng., S. St. - A
Sarah A. Lisk U. N. C. - A. B. Eng., H. Ec. - A
Dorothy F. Glenn Salem - B. A. Blanket - A
Betty W. Hatley Wake Forest - Math, Science - A
Joe D. Kelly Catawba - A. B. Bio. , P. E. - A
Linda 3. Hunt Catawba - A. B. S. Studies - A
Marjorie B. Melton
Chester P. Hollingsworth
Naomi P. Stambaugh
Robert N. Jeffrey
James Sanges
Faye Y. Fisher
Queens - B. S.
U. N. C. - M. A.
A. C. C.
Piedmont, U. Ga.
N. C. State - B. S.
U. N. C. - M. A.
U. N. C. - B. S.
Pfeiffer - A. B.
Eng., History - 0
Eng., P. E. - A
French, English - A
Science - Principal
Math, Science - A
Dist. Education - A
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2
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3
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SCHOOL: North Stanly (Cont'd)
rrrr? *
EDUCATIONAL
TRAINING CERTIFICATE
YEARS
expert:
Philip E. Hancock Wingate, Charlotte Trade, Industry i
Richard H. Koontz N. C. State - B. S. Vocational 8
Carol A. Buchanan Appalachian - Home Ec.- A 0
Rosemary K. Harwood Indiana State Home Ec. - A 15
Martha R. Rogers Appalachian - B. S. Eng., French >
18U. of Florida - M. A.
James Lovett Western Carolina - B. S. Ind. Arts - B • 0
SCHOOL: Norwood
Martin L. Coggin
3arbara S. Lambert
Robert S. Sims
Genna R. Norwood
Joan M. Headley
Pauline M. Vick
Virginia D. Efird
Melirin G. Poplin
Ruth C. Mabry
Oleta C. Norwood
Elizabeth R. Bowers
Margie V. Farmer
Daisy K. Lewder
Dorth as M. Leitch
Irene B. McNeill
Miriam J. Sims
Albertine Lentz
F. Rebecca Mullaney
Pearle S. Lanier
Carolyn L. Hathcock
Lelia C. Skidmore
Mamie H. Lentz
Margaret P. Skidmore
Minnie L. Dennis
Ann K. Lee
Wake Forest - B. S.
U. N. C. - M. A. Principal - A 30
Flora MacDonald - A. B. Music - A 8
N. C. State - B. S. Agriculture - A 22
W. C. - A. B. Grammar - A 39
U. N. C. - B. A. English - A 3
W. C. - A. B. Hist., English - A 33
Pfeiffer - A. B. Social Studies - A k
Guilford - A. B. Bio. , Phy. Ed. - A 3
Queens - A. B. Grammar - A 3h
W. C. - A. B. Grammar - A 5
Appalachian - B. S. Grammar - A 19
Catawba - A. B. Grammar - A 27
Queens - B. S. Primary - A 30
Asheville - B. S. Primary - A 11
W. C. - A. B. Grammar - A 30
W. C. - A. B. Grammar - A 23
Davenport - Grammar - A 26
Pfeiffer - B. A. Primary - A 0
Appalachian © A. B. Primary - A 35
High Point - A. B. Primary - A 5
Lenoir Rhyne - A. B. Primary - A Ul
W. C. - A. B. Primary - A 10
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Greensboro - A. B. Unlimited - A
Appalachian - B. S.
Wake Forrest -
Primary - A
Commercial - A
SCHOOL: Oakboro
Ralph C. Cole
Edward P. Stewart
Charlotte R. Hartsell
a Doric C. Garroll
b Bertha T. Rogers
William K. Little
a Claudette B. Love
b Nancy E. Speight
Connie T. Sharpe
Lucy G. Thosas-----------
Jeanette E. Whitley
Peggy L. Burris
Catawba - A. B.
Appalachian - M. A.
Western Carolina - B. S.
Appalachian
Appalachian - A. B.
Flora MacDonald - B. A.
Catawba -
Pfeiffer - A. B.
Etfeiffer - B. S.
Asheville, Lenoir-Rhyne
Annalachian -___________
Appalachian
Pfeiffer, Catawba.
Principal - G
Hist., English - A
Eng., S. St. - A
H. Ec. , Gen. Sci. -A
Grammar - A
Soc. Studies - A
Primary - A
Grammar - A
Grammar - A
Ĝrammar - B
. primary -~K
Grammar - A
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̂w * I ̂• i-> Oakboro (Cont'd)
EDUCATIONAL
TRAINING
CERTIFICATE YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE
ean H. Honeycutt U.N.C., Pfeiffer Grammar - A
me V;. Brooks Pfeiffer- A. B. Grammar - A
lora T. Parker Appalachian Primary A
.itha H. Hatley Catawba - A. B. Primary A
;Ouise E. Cowan W. C. C. - B. S. Primary A
uanita S. Johnston Lenoir Rhyne - A. B. Grammar A
Ii. P r o Carson-Newman - A. B. Primary A
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SCHOOL: Richfield
Charles P. Misenheimer
Margaret F. Allen
Ida L. Jeffrey
Mary A. Fisher
Rose L. Ritchie
Ann B. Martin
Freeman M. Corson
Joan W. Sells
Ida F. Kyles
U. N. C. - A.B., M. A.
Pfeiffer -
W.C.U.N.C.
Pfeiffer
Catawba
Pfeiffer
Pfeiffer
Pfeiffer
Lenoir Rhyne
Principal
Commercial - A
Grammar A
Grammar A
Grammar A
Primary A
Primary A
Primary A
Primary A
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SCHOOL: Ridgecrest
JAck D. Clark
Mildred L. Carpenter
Naomi B. Miller
Minnie E. Barbee
Virginia C. Rinehardt
Jessie V. Lambert
SCHOOL: South Oakboro
James L. Thomas
Maude P. Asbury
Patricia W. Jeffers
Phyllis M. Martin
Pfeiffer, U. N. C. Principal - A k
U. N. C. - Grammar A 3
Appalachian,W.C.U.N.C. H. Ec. - A 7
Catawba - A. B. Grammar A 33
Catawba - Primary A 2U
Appalachian - B. S. Elementary G. 12
State Teachers - B. S. Grammar - A 13
W. S. State Elementary G 22
W. S. State Primary A 1
W. S. State Primary A 0
SCHOOL: South Stanly
Billy J. Nix N. C. State - B8, M. A. Principal 15
Betty D. Tesh Pfeiffer English A 3
Julia T. Finley W.C.U.N.C. - A. B. Blanket A 31
kGeoy-ia M. /.nos Carson-Newman Bio• i P • E. A
Samuel L. Tesh Pfeiffer - B. S. Secondary A 2
Nell H. Teeter Appalachian - Lib. Sci. A 23
Brenda J. Fries Catawba - B. S. English A 0
A1 Varo Garcia U. of Havanna French A 0
16Wilma M. Morton W. C. U. N. C. Mathematics A
Mildred M. Archer Wake Forest - B. S.
U. N. C. - M. A. Chem., Math - G 7
Katherine S Crutch-field_ ph C. U. N. C. - B. S. S Cowner fcia.1 15
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SCHOOL: South Stanly (Cont'd)
a
Gurney E. Hatley U. N. C. - B. S. Soiial Studies A 5
Harvey P. Brocks Pfeiffer - B. S. Phy. Ed. A b
Bartara H. Rat i i f f W. C. U. N. C. - A. B. Bio., Gen. Sci. A 3
Wayne Moore Lenoir Rhyne - A. B. Phy. Ed., Hist., Dr.Ed. A 5
Gary W. Cagle Pfeiffer - A. B. English A 1
Brenda S. Laughter Appalachian - English A 0
Edith L. Ivey W, C. U. N. C. Commercial A 29
J are s A. Cameron V. P. I . - B. S. Soiial Studies A 15
Eugenia R. Bail „ - ... ..M,Ct„.XL.„N. C. .....—............ - ■— English 0
Josephine K. Avett W.C.U.N.C.- A. B. Eng., History A IT
Larry A. Sides Catawba Music A h
Linda E. Julian Lenoir Rhyne Bio., Chem.,Gen.Sci. A 1
Douglas R. Squires High Point Health, P.E. , Bio. A 5
Rebecca S. Hayznan Carson-Newman Home Economics A 6
Ate Marion N. C. State - B. S. Agriculture G Ik
Larry w. Mabry N. C. State Agriculture A 0
Sue R. McCroskey W. C. U. N. C. Home Economics A 5
Joyce W. Nance Appalachian Home Economics A 2
Aubrey R. Flynt High Point - B. S.
Appalachian - M. A. English G b
William E. Frye Western Carolina - B. S. Industrial Arts A 2
George W. Wagoner Trades & Industry 0
SCHOOL: Stanfield
L. P. Beck Wake Forest Principal A 23
Everett E. Hatley Catawba - B. S.
Appalachian - M. A. Social Studies G 11
Henry C. Bowers Wake Forest Principal A 3b
James P. Love Wingate, UNC History A 22
Thelma T. Beck Meredith - A. B. Unlimited A 31
Zell R. Moss Catawba - Grammar A 37
Ann A. Upchurch Appalachian Primary A b
Eula L. Teeter Catawba Grammar A 10
Ona L. Little Catawba,UNC, Queens .. v Primary B 30
Lille H. Love E.C.C. A. B. Primary A 27
Ruth H. Blair Catawba - A. B. Grammar A 22
SCHOOL: West Badin
Glover L. Hines
Robert S. Adams
Melvin L. Wall
Susie H. Martin
Kellie H. Holmes
Frederick Welborne
Lillie T. Graham
Theodore Hinnant
Jacob B. Davis
Ernest W. Dixon
Mary 0. Glenn
Ruth J. Kelly
Bertha L- Hines
Morehouse - B. S.
N. C. College - M. A.
Paine College
A & T - B.S. , M. A.
Shaw University - A. B.
Livingston
A & T
N. C. College - B. S.
UNC-G - M. A.
A & T
W. S. T. C. - B. S.
A & T
W. S. S. T
Bennett - B. A.
St. Augustine - B. A.
Principal G 22
Bio., Gen. Sci.A 12
Math, Ind. Arts G 27
Eng., S. St. A 2
Commercial A 3
Phy. Ed. A 0
Home Economics G 7
Bricklaying 0
1 6Gramma A
Principal A
Grammar A
i~» 0
6
15
20Elementary G
Grammar A
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SCHOOL: West Badin (Cont'd)
EDUCATIONAL
TEACHER TRAINING _ CERTIFICATE
Margaree Owens
Estella T. McNeill
Armenia H. Taylor
Joyce 3. McMehan
Placidia B. Einnant
Mary A. Harrison
Barber-Scotia
Hampton-Institute
Livingston - A. B.
A & T - M. S.
Winston Salem
Winston Salem - B. S.
A & T - M. S.
Hampton Institute - B. S.
A & T. - M. S.
Grammar A
Primary A
Elementary G
Primary A
Elementary G
Elementary G
YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE
k
38
10
0
19
31
SCHOOL: West. Stanly
Robert L. Garmon
Gwendoly Y. Chandler
Linda S. Huneycutt
Pansy E. Morton
Jean L. Grantham
Margaret Stewart
Mar gar
Margaret W. Coble
Leo Hatley
Thomas Rogers
Joe L. Smith
Tommie C. Staton
Carolyn J. Williams
Dona G. McSwain
Mary R. Bennett
Billy W. Hinson
Bryte L. Efird
Henrietta E. Carpenter
Elberta L. Ragsdale
Geraldine B. Holbrooks
Gene L. Whitesides
Zeb G. Barnhardt
Sarah L. Bumgarner
Lucy B. Hunt
James W. Preble
Minnie C. Elmore
Lee B. Caudle
Bernice A. Busch
Claude F. Henkel
Lawrence R. Eller
Pfeiffer - B. S.
Appalachian _m. A.
Pfeiffer - B. S.
Pfeiffer - A. B.
Pfeiffer -
A. C. -A . B.
Pfeiffer - B. S.
Appalachian - M. A.
W.C.U.N.C. - A. B.
Piedmont - B. S.
U. N. C.
Western Carolina -
Pfeiffer - A. B.
Columbia
Appalachian - B . S.
Wake Forest - A. B.
Pfeiffer
Appalachian
Catawba
Lenoir Rhyne - A. B.
Catawba A. B.
UNC - M. E.
Lenoir Rhyne - A. B.
HxxfixxSkxtH; Pfeiffer - A. B.
Duke
Mercer University -
High Point
Mexico Western -
Pfeiffer - A. B.
Catawba - A. B.
Winthrop -
N. C. State - B. S.
N. C. State - B. S.
Principal A
Commercial A 2
Business A 0
Health, P. E. A 1
English A 13
History, Comm. G 6
French, Eng. A 2h
Math., Science A 19
Soc. Studies, P.E. A 6
Gen. Science A 7
Social Studies A 7
French, Eng. A 11
Social Studies, P. Ed. A 20
Eng., History A 13
Health, P.E., Bio. A 7
Commercial A 17
Eng., History A 0
Eng. Soc. Studies G 12
English 17
Biology, P.E., Math. A k
/ Science, Math 32
‘/Math 7
History, Eng. A 10
< Music B 2
Biology A 1
Biology, P.E. A 10
English A 25
Agriculture A 29
Agriculture A 13
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SCHEDULE 111(b)
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3(b) Please list for each school: 1965-66
SCHOOL: Aquadale
TEACHER
Vernie F. Horton
Kathryn S. Cameron
Bonnie T. McDonald
Donald K. Abernathy
Janice B. Abernathy
Elizabeth A. Horne
Thomas W. Ward
Mary S. Vick
Allene H. Winfree
Gladys E. Ferrell
Lottie A. H ouck
Edith P. Thompson̂
SCHOOL: Badin
Elvin M. Fisher, Jr.
Vernon E. Lentz
Mary B. Levis
Sherrill Lovder
Rachel H. Lovder
Pauline B. Abernethy
Jane 0. Lefko
Peggy R. Ross
Daisie W. Holmes, _
"Janette J. Watson
Josie Chrisco
SCHOOL: Endy
Fred S. Hopkins
Johnny P. Burleson
Sue S. Page
Wyatt McSvain
Mary G. Case
Betty B. Welch
Carolyn H. Burleson
Lillie R. Lisenby
Grace R. Speight
SCHOOL: Lake View
Robert E. McLendon
Melvin J. Rush
Fannie F. Coley
Geraldine R. Taylor
Wanda W. Cogdell
Mary S. Winfield
EDUCATIONAL
TRAINING CERTIFICATE
YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE
Blemson - B. S.
U. N. C. - M. E.
Principal - A 18
Queens - A. B. Eng., Soc. St. - A 18
Pfeiffer - A. B. Soc. Studies - A 11
Appalachian - A. B. G. G. - A k
Appalachian - A. B. G. G. - A 6
Asheville - B. S. G. G. - A 22
Duke - A. B. Hist. , Ec. - A 35
Livingston - A. B. Grammar - A 9
Winthrop - A. B. Grammar - A 26
W. C. U. N. C. - G. G. - A 7
Appalachian - B. S. Primary - A 20
Flora McDonald ,. ____ ... . G.. G« - B 3
Pfeiffer - B. S. Sci., Phy. Ed., Hist. A 7
Pfeiffer - A. B. Phy. Ed., Biology A 7
Winthrop - B. S. Commercial - G 13
U. N. C. - M. E.
Pfeiffer - B. S. P. E., History - A 0
Pfeiffer - A. B. G. G. - G 7
Appalachian - M. E.
Appalachian - B. s. Grammar - A. 15
Pfeiffer - A. B. Grammar - A 1
U. N. C. - A. B. Primary - A 10
Catavba ^Primary - B 30
W. C. U. N. C• B. A. Grammar - A 6
U. N. C. - A. B. Primary - A hk
Pfeiffer - B. S.
U. N. C. - Principal
JPfeiffpr - A- R —
Principal - A
'-'Emergency B
7
..... 5
Pfeiffer - A. B. Social Stu. - A \
Duke - B. S. Grammar - A 25
High Point - B. S. P. E ., Bio., Hist. -A 6
Lenoir Rhyne - A. B. Grammar - A. 8
Pfeiffer - A. B. Primary - A k
Catavba - A. B. Primary - A 35
High Point Primary - A 11
A & T Mathematics - A 12
Livingstone Science - A
Shav University Grammar - A 15
Stillman Grammar - A U
Winston-Salem Primary - A 3
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Fayetteville State Primary - A 8
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SCHOOL: L o c u s t
EDUCATIONAL YEARS OF
m-p »\ TRAINING CERTIFICATE EXPERIENCE
Norman W. M a p les W. C . C . - M. A . P r i n c i p a l - G I k
C l i v e 3 . B ig g e r s A p p a la c h ia n - A . B . H. E c . , S c i e n c e - A 16
V ern on K u n su ck o r P f e i f f e r - A . B . H . 4 P . E . , B i o . , Dr .E d -A 6
Jam es D. K ennedy Wake F o r e s t S o c i a l S t u d ie s - A k
i .*A * DA.-fc. CiA-k-a. w.- W in th ro p - A . B . U n lim ite d . - A kO
E l i z a b e t h C. T routm an A p p a la c h ia n - B . S . H. E c . - A 12
M a r g a r e t E . S h ip t o n U n i v e r s i t y o f S . C. - M. E . S le m . - G 9
I n e z S . K lim s U. N. C. - A . B . P r im a r y - A k2
O d e ssa L . H a t le y W* CL̂ __EL*______ ... g-H rr, n,ry 9 B . 20
Ann H . Lane A p p a la c h ia n - A . B . P r im a ry - A 3
Rena V . S f i r d L e n o ir Rhyne - A . B . P r im a r y - A 32
K e l l i e J . Tew G r e e n s b o r o - A . B . P r im a r y - A . 15
SCHOOL: M i l l i n g p o r t
G e o rg e J : J a c k s o n U n i v e r s i t y o f S . C . — A. B .
E . C . C . - M. A . P r i n c i p a l - G 9
Jam es G. M a u ld in P f e i f f e r - B. S . P h y . , H is t o r y - A 0
M ary D. H auss A p p a la c h ia n - B . S . G en . S c i l , H. E c . - A 11
M a rv in H. R ou se A p p a la c h ia n - B . S . P r i n c i p a l - A lk
I r e n e ? . P e ck A p p a la c h ia n - B . S . Grammar - A 13
E v e ly n V . A l l r e d E lo n - A . B . P r im a ry A 8
V in a H. E ld e r H igh P o in t - .A . B . Grammar A 26
V i r g i e H. W h it le y L e n o ir -R h y n e - A . B . Grammar A 30
B re n d a S . S t i l l e r P f e i f f e r - B . S . P r im a ry A 1
J u l i a A . M e C s .s k ill w.c.u.n. c. - :B . S . D i s t . E d . A 1
SCHOOL: New London
J. Frank Turner Lenoir Rhyne -A . B. Principal - A 38
Joseph K. Frick Pfeiffer ~ A. B. Bio., Phy.Ed.,Health A 3
Margaret B. Ivey Florida State, Montreat ; Bible A T
Judith D. Utley E. C. C. - B. S. English A 1
Mary S. Chestnut Wake Forest n Hist., Music A 8
Margaret F. Allen Pfeiffer c Commercial A 1
Christine M. Clayton ,U. .IL-C.-.. ... ..... .............. Primary B 22
Barbara E. Lineberger Appalachian - B. S. Grammar A 0
Connie T. Sharpe Asheville, Lenoir-Rhyne Grammar A 29
Helen M. Small Catawba Q A. B. Grammar A 23
Margaret M. Turner Lenoir-Rhyne - A. B. Eng., History A 15
Lucile H. Harris U. N. C. - A. B. Secondary A 20
Esther B. Gaddy Appalachian —...-Primary. B____ _ ,J2__
Mirle H. Carriker Pfeiffer - B. S. Primary A 0
Elizabeth C. Harvard Pfeiffer - A. B. Primary - A 1
Mary W. Lyerly Catawba - A. B. Grammar - A 2k
Mary W. Taylor Appalachian - B. S. Primary - A 22
Ann S. Upchurch Appalachian Primary A 5
Gladys I, Fer.. ~nr.an Catawba - A. B, Primary - A 39
Callie M. Goodman St. Mary's, Catawba Primary - A 36
SCHEDULE IlliU), page 2
121a
122a
Schedule 111(h)
(See Opposite) SSi53
Page 3 (C ontinued)
SCHOOL: North Stanly
EDUCATIONAL YEARS OF
TEACHER TRAINING CERTIFICATE EXPERIENCE
Robert C. Lewis Wake Fores, E. C. C., Principal - G 11
UNC
Suzanne B. Smith Pfeiffer - A. B. Commerce - A 5
Geraldine R. Chrisco U. N. C. - BSSA Commerce - A IT
JoAnne F. Hildreth Appalachian - B. S. Eng., Lib. Sci. - A 5
Harold D. Davenport Appalachian - B. S ., M. A. Eng., Soc. Stu. - G T
Nelson P. Burr Pfeiffer - A. B. Eng., History - A 2
Lonnie R. Chandler Catawba - B. S. Health, Phy.Ed., Bio.-A 2
Jack D. Fesperman Catawba - A. B. Sci., Health, Phy,Ed.-A IT
Brenda P. Duka E. C. C. - B. S. Math., Sci. - A 0
Foy Gene Powell Western N. Mexico Music - A 2
Joe F. Harris Pfeiffer, Catawba P.E., Health, Bio., Hist,A8
Mattie B. Kelly U.N. C. - A. B. Bio., Phy. Ed. - A 6
Emily R. Wood Atlantic Christian - B. A. Eng. - A 0
Johnny W. Chestnut Pfeiffer^ S.St.,Hist. ,Geog, - A 6
Palmer M. Dulin Clemson, U. N. C. Math - G 39
Georgette L. Bower$( Lenoir Rhyne, A. B. Eng., S. Stu. - A 2
Mary B. Bundy U. N. C. - A. B. Eng. - A 9
Dorothy F. Glenn Salem - B. A. ̂ Blanket - A 26
Betty W. Hatley Wake Forest Math., Science - A 13
Joe D. Kelly Catawba - A. B. Bio. , P.E. - A 15
Linda B. Hunt Catawba - A. B. S. Studies - A 3
Everett W. Finney Catawba - A. B. English - A 0
Mary F. Hodges !tH i i i t t l f/ t l/ k l / Campbell-B.A. English, French - A 0
James D. Mills U. N. C. - B. S. Math., Science - A 8
Robert N. Jeffrey N. C. State - B. S. Science - Prin. - fi 30
U. N. C. - M. A. u u u i u u u i / m I1>
James Sanges U. N. C. - B. S. Math., Science - A 9
If H i Bobby W. Carter Tenn. Mesleyen - B. A. English - A 0
Faye Y. Fisher Pfeiffer - A. B. Dist. Education - A k
Philip E. Hancock Wingate, Charlotte Trade, Industry 2
Richard H. Kucntz N. C. State - B. S. Vocational 9
Carol A. Buchanan Appalachian Home Ec. - A 1
Rosemary K. Harwood Indiana State Home Ec. - A 16
Martha R. Rogers Appalachian - B. S. \/Eng., French ^ 19
--------- - ---------- U. of Florida - M. A. ..... ■ ------ ”
Janes Lovett Western Carolina - B. S. Ind. Arts - A 1
SCHOOL: Norwood
Martin L. Ccggin Wake Forest - B. S. 31
Barbara S. Lambert
Robert S. Sims
Genna R. Norwood
Joan M. Headley
Pauline M. Vick
Virginia D. Eilrd
Melvin G. Poplin
Frances M. Efird
U. N. c . - M. A.
Flora Mac Donald -
N. C. State - B . S .
W. C. - A. B .
U. N. C. - ■ B. A.
W. C . - A. B .
Pfeiffer - A, 13.
Guilford - A. B.
U. N. C. - A. B.
Music -A 9
Agriculture - A 23
Grammar - A
English - A j4
Hist., English - A 3*
Social Studies - A 5
Bio. , Phy. Ed. - A
Primary - A
S C H E D U L E 111(b), page 3
123a
124a
Schedule 111(b)
(See Opposite) S® 3
Page 3 (Continued
SCHOOL: Norwood ( Cont’ d )
EDUCATIONAL YEARS OF
TEACHER TRAINING CERTIFICATE EXPERIENi
Oleta C. Norwood W. C. - A. B. Grammar - A 6
Elizabeth R. Ecvers Appalachian - B. S. Grammar - A 20
Margie V. Farmer Catawba - A. B. Grammar - A 28
Daisy K. Lowdor Queens - B. S. Primary - A 31
Dorthas M. Leitch Asheville - B. S. Primary - A 12
Irene B. McNeill W. C. - A. B. Grammar - A 31
Tyna C. Bracknell Lenoir Rhyne - A. B. Primary - A 2
Miriam J. Sims W. C. - A. B. Grammar - A 2k
Albertine Lentz Davenport Grammar - A 27
Suzanne Swindell Pfeiffer - B. S. Primary - A 0
F. Rebecca Mnllaney Pfeiffer - B. A. Primary - A 1
Pearle S. Lanier Appalachian - A. B. Primary A 36
Carolyn L. Hathcock High Point - A. B. Primary - A 6
Lelia C. Skidmore Lenoir Rhyne A. B. Primary - A k2
Mamie H. Lentz W. C. - A. B. Primary - A 11
Margaret P. Skidmore Greensboro - A. B. Unlimited - A 25
Minnie L. Dennis Appalachian - B. S. Primary - A T
Billy C. Hutchinson Appalachian - B. S. Phy. Ed., Soc. Stu. - A 8
SCHOOL: Oakboro
Ralnh C. Cole Catawba - A. B.
Appalachian - M. A. Principal - G 11
Edward P. Stewart Western Carolina - B. S. Hist., English - A 2k
Elberta L. Ragsdale Catawba - A. B.
U. N. C. - M. E. Eng., Bos, Stu. - G 13
William K. Little Catawba Soc. Studies - A 11
Margaret C. Burleson Appalachian - B. S. Gen. Sc., Home Ec. - A 5
Feggy B. Murdock Erskine - A. B. Science - A 0
Claudett B. Love Pfeiffer - A. B. Primary - A 2
Ruth H. Whitley _____ Saarritt - B. A. Emergency - B 2
Lucy G. Thomas Appalachian _______ Grammar - B ->--- ---- ........... 2b
Jeanette E. Whitley Appalachian Primary - A 6
Peggy L. Burris Pfeiffer, Catawba Grammar - A T
Jean H. Honeycutt U. N. C., Pfeiffer Grammar - A 7
Maa W. Brooks Pfeiffer - A. B. Grammar - A 2
125a
126a
Schedule 111(h)
(See Opposite) SSr5
Page 5 (Continued)
SCHOOL: Richfield jCont’d)
EDUCATIONAL YEARS OF
TEACHER TRAINING CERTIFICATE EXPERIENCE
Ann B. Martin Pfeiffer Primary - A 1
Freeman M. Corson Pfeiffer Primary - A 2
Susan J. Davis Pfeiffer - A. B. Primary - A 0
Ida F. Kyles Lenoir Rhyne Primary - A 25
SCHOOL: Ridgecrest
William K. Ruldolph Pfeiffer - B. S.JJ. of Term.MS Science - A . 1
Mildred L. Carpenter U. N. C. Grammar - A
Naomi B. Miller ' Appalachian, W. C. H. Ec. - A 8
Minnie E. Barbee Catawba - A. B. Grammar - A 39
Virginia 6. Rinehardt Catawba Primary - A 25
Jessie V. Lambert Appalachian - B. S. Element ary - G 13
SCHOOL: South Oakboro
Henry P. Eaton
*
Winston-Salem - B. S. Elem. - A 6
Maude P. Asbury W. S. State Elementary - G 23
Edrena D. Turner Livingstone Primary - A 1
Claudette S. Gathers Winston-Salem State - B. S. Primary - A 0
SCHOOL: South Stanly
Billy J. Nix N. C. State - B. S ., M. A. Principal 1 6
Betty D. Tesh Pfeiffer English - A b
Julia T. Finley W.C.U.N.C.- A. B. Blanket - A 32
Georgia M. Amos Carson-Newman Bio., P. E. - A 5
Samuel L. Tesh Pfeiffer - B. S. Secondary - A 3
Nell H. Teeter Appalachian Lib. Sci. - A 2b
Judy B. Kimrey E. C. C. - B. S. Eng. Soc. Stu. - A 1
Kenneth E. Forte Mars Hill - B. S. Bible, History - A 0
Wilma M. Morton W. C. U. N. C. Math - A 17
Mildred M. Archer Wake Forest - B. S.
U. N. C. - M. A. Chem., Math - G 8
Katherine S. Crutchfield
Gurney E. Hatley
Harvey P. Brooks
Wayne Moore
Edith L. Ivey
Janes A. Cameron
Eugenia R. BaU---------------
Josephine K. Avett
Larry A. Sides
Linda E. Julian
U.C.U.N.C. - B. S.
U. N. C. - B. S.
Pfeiffer - B. S.
Lenoir Rhyne - A. B.
W. C. U. N. C.
V. P. I. - B. S.
W- C- u. N. C .,_ ___
Commercial
Social Studies - A
Phy. Ed. - A
6
5
Phy. Ed.,Hist., Dr.Ed. -A 6
W.C.U.N.C. - A. B.
Catawba
Lenoir Rhyne
Commercial - A
Social Stu. - A
Y F.ngl t Rh----------------
Eng., History - A
Music • A
30
l6
1
1 8
Bio., Chem.,Gen.Sci. - A 2
S C H E D U L E 111(b), page 5
127a
128a
Schedule 111(b)
(See Opposite)
Page 6 (Continued)
SCHOOL: South Stanly (Cont'd)
TEACHER
EDUCATIONAL
TRAINING CERTIFICATE
YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE
Douglas R. Squires High Point Health, P.E.,Bio. - A 6
Rebecca S. Hc.yman Carson-Nevman Home Ec. - A 7
n n u i t u u x i i
George W. Heafner E. C. C. - A. B. Business Adm. - A 1
Abe Marion N. C. State - B. S. Agriculture - G 15
Larry W. Mabry N. C. State Agriculture - A 1
Carole B. Huneycutt Appalachian - B. S. Home Ec., Bio. - B 7 0
Joyce W. Nance Appalachian Home Economics - A 3
Aubrey R. Flynt High Point - B. S.
Appalachian - M. A. English - G 5
William E. Frye Western Carolina - B. S. Industrial Arts - A 3
George R. Wagoner Trades & Industry 1
SCHOOL: Stanfield
L. P. Beck Wake Forest Principal - A 2h
Everett E. Hatley Catawba 0 B. S.
Appalachian - M. A. Social Studies - G 12
Henry C. Bowers Wake Forest Principal - A 35
Joyce H. Holt Eastern. N. Univ.-—....... .. Emergency...-_.B ........ ...... .... 0..
Thelma TT. ~Beclf Meredith - A. B. Unlimited - A 32
Zell R. Moss Catawba Grammar A 38
Sallie H. Bowers Meredith, E.C.C. Grammar - A 32
Jean A. Efird E. C. C. - B. S. Primary - A 0
Elaine H. Orzechawski D'Youville College - B. S. Primary - A 2
Lillie H. Love E.C.C. - A. B. Primary - A 28
Ruth H. Blair Catawba - A. B. Grammar - A 22
SCHOOL: West Badin
Robert
i. Hines Morehouse - B. S.
N. C. College - M. A. Principal - G
. Adams Paine College Bio., Gen.Sci.
. Brown Johnson C. Smith - B. S. w" Math. - B
Martin Shaw Univ. - A. B. Eng., S. Stu.
Graham N. C. College - B. S.
UNC-G - M. A. Home Ec. - G
Hinnant A & T Bricklaying
Jacob B. Davis
Ruth J. Kelly
Ella H. Little
Bertha L. Hines
Margaree Owens Daye
Armonia H. Taylor
Joyce B» McMehan
Placidia B. Hinnant
Mary A. Marrison
W.S.T.C. - B. S. Grammar - A
Bennett - B. A. 14-1$! It&l Elem - G
Winston Salem State - B. S
St. Augustine - B. A.
Barber-Scotia
Livingston - A. B.
A & T. - M. S.
Winston-Salem
Winston-Salem - B. S.
A & T - M. S.
Hampton Institute - B. S.
A & T - M. S.
Grammar - A
Grammar - A
Grammar - A
Elementary - G
Primary - A
Elementary - G
Elementary - G
23
13
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3
8
1
IT
1 6
2
21
5
hi
1
20
32
S C H E D U L E 111(b), page 6
129a
130a
Schedule 111(1)
(See Opposite) USP
Page 7 (Continued)
SCHOOL: West Stanly
TEACHER
Robert L. Garnon
Linda S. Huneycutt
Mary C. Plumer
Pansy E. Morten
Jean L. Grantham
Margaret Stewart
Margaret W. Coble
Leo Hatley
Thomas A. Rogers
Joe L. Smith
Tommie C. Staton
Carolyn J. Williams
Dona G. McSwain
Mary R. Bennett
Judge W. Morgan
Bryte L. Efird
Henrietta E. Carpenter
Geraldine B. Holbrooks
Gene L7 Whitesides
Robert A. Blalock
Richard H. Wright
Lucy B. Hunt
Minnie E. Boling
Lee B. Caudle
Bernice A. Busch
Claude F. Henkel
Lawrence R. Eller
Helen W. Thompson
Bertha R. Springer
Mildred C. Cooper
Jerry W. Crayton, Sr.
Tom A. Morgan
Douglas D. Case
Dorothy T. Sipbth
Dillon Whitley
EDUCATIONAL
TRAINING CERTIFICATE
YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE
Pfeiffer - B. S. Principal - A 9
Appalachian - M. At
Pfeiffer - A. B. Business - A 1
Pfeiffer - A. B. Eng. Biology - A 1
Pfeiffer Health, P.E. - A '2
A. C. - A. B. English - A Ik
Pfeiffer - B. S. History, Comm. - G 7
Appalachian - M. A.
W.C.U.N.C. - A. B. French, Eng. - A 25
Piedmont - B. S. Math., Science - A 20
U. N. C. Soc. Studies, P.E. - A 7
Western Carolina Gen. Science - A 8
Pfeiffer - A. B. Social Studies - A 8
Columbia French, Eng. - A 12
Appalachian - B. S. Soc. Stu., P.E. - A 21
Wake Forest - A. B. Eng., History - A lU
Appalachian - B. S. Math., Gen. Science - A 0
Catawba Commercial - A 1 8
Lenoir Rhyne - A. B. Eng., History - A 1
Lenoir Rhyne - A. B. ^English _____
' Pfeiffer - A. B. Biology, P.E., Math - A 5
Appalachian - B. S. Science, Soc. Stu. - A 2
Catawba - A. B. Music - A 21
High Point History, Eng. - A 11
Pfeiffer - A. B. Biology - A 2
Catawba - A. B. Biology, P.E. - A 11
Winthrop English - A 26
N. C. State - B. S. Agriculture - A 30
N. C. State - B. S. Agriculture - A Ik
W.C.U.N.C. - B. S. Home Ec. - A 12
W.C.U.N.C. - M Home Ec. - A k
W.C.U.N.C. - B. S. P. E. - A lU
Vocational 1
N. C. State - B. S. Gen. Sci. Agri. - A 3
High Point - B. S. Distr. Ed. - VA 0
Vocational 1
Vocational 1
S C H E D U L E 111(b), page 7
s
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132a
SCHEDULE IV
(See Opposite) SS^
SC
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p
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ge 1
+. Please attach a pay schedule for teachers
and professional personnel for the
1965-66 school year.
VOCATIONAL EDUCATION
MONTHLY SALARY SCHEDULE
1965 - 1966
Type of Certificate
Exnerience ih Years
0 1 2 _3 1* .. .5. 6 JL 8 _9 10 _ .11 12 13
Graduate Vocational (VG) $ $ - $511 $526 $51*1 $555 $570 $585 $603 $ 6 2 1 $638 $656 $675 $691*
Class A Vocational (VA)
Class A Provisional (PAV) U55 1+68 1*82 1*96 510 525 5l*0 55l* 569 581+ 6 0 1 617 6 3U
Provisional
Vocational (PV) 1+1*1+ 1+58 1*71 1+85 500 515 529 51*1* 559 573 590 607 621+
Class A Provisional
Practical Nursing (PAV) U36 1*1+8 1*61 1*71+ 1*87 501 515 528 5l*2 557 571 587 603
Class B Vocational (VB) 1+01 1*12 1+21+ 1*37 1*1*9 1*62 1*75
/
Add: $100 per month to the above schedule for a person holding an earned Doctor's Degree in the area or subject taught
133a
134a
Schedule IV
(See Opposite)
SC
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LE IV, page 2
VOCATIONAL EDUCATION
MONTHLY SALARY SCHEDULE
1965 - 1966
Type of Certificate
Experience in Years
.... 0 1 2 _ _3 1+ _..5. 6 8 9 10 1 1 1 2 13
Graduate Vocational (VG) $ - $ - $511 *526 $51+1 $555 $570 $585 $603 $ 6 2 1 $638 $656 $675 $691+
Class A Vocational (VA)
Class A Provisional (PAV) 1+55 1+68 1+82 1+96 5 10 525 5 I+0 55l+ 569 581+ 6 0 1 617 6 3I+
Provisional
Vocational (FV) 1+1+1+ 1+58 1+71 1+85 500 515 529 51+1+ 559 573 590 607 621+
Class A Provisional
Practical Nursing (PAV) 1+36 1+1+8 l+6l l+7l+ 1+87 501 515 528 5l+2 557 571 587 603
Class B Vocational (VB) 1+01 1+12 1+21+ 1+37 1+1+9 1+62 1+75
Add. $100 per month to the above schedule for a person holding an earned Doctor's Degree in the area or subject taught
135a
136a
Schedule IV
(See Opposite)
STATS ?JI!TE MD7THS SCHOOL FUND
MONTHLY SALARY SCHEDULE "A" FOR CLASSIFIED PRINCIPALS
(1 0 , 10.4, 11 I-SOKTfiS)*
1965-66
Nuwber of
Teachers
V i Aeace In Years
r-o P-1 P-2 P-3 ! ?-/. j....* -1— P=5. - ... F-6 P-7 P-3
7 - e -555 $610 $625 $639 $654 $669 $684 $693 <*■ "3S' 1 -O
9 - 1 0 610 625 639 654 669 684 698 713 723
1 1 - 12 625 639 654 669 684 698 713 728 742
1 3 - i t -639 654 669 684 693 713 728 742 75?
1 5 -1 6 654 669 6C4 698 713 728 742 757 772
17 - 13 669 684 698 713 723 742 757 772 a# —
19 — 20 634 693 713 728 742 757 772 . 786
21 - 22 692 713 728 742 757 772 • 786 801 816
23 - 24 713 728 742 757 772 786 801 816 S31
23 - 26 72S 742 757 772 786 801 816 831 845
27 - 28 742 757 772 786 801 816 831 845 860
29 - 30 757 772 786 801 816 831 845 860 875
3 1 -3 2 772 786 801 816 831 845 860 875 S3 9
3 3 -3 4 736 SOI 816 831 845 860 875 889 984
3 5 - 36 801 816 831 845 860 875 889 904 919
37 - 41 816 831 845 860 875 889 904 919 933
42 - Up 831 845 860 875 889 904 919/ 933 948
NOTE: The maximum rating that a person holding a High School Principal's or Elementary
Principal's Certificate can receive is P-5.
A person holding a Principal's Certificate m y, after he reaches P-5, go on to the
P-6, P-7, and P-8 ratings.
Add the appropriate amount from Monthly Salary Schedule "B” for Classified Principals
to arrive at the gross monthly rate of pay.
Add $30.00 per month to the above schedule for a person holding an Advanced Principal*e
Certificate. ^
Add $10000 per month to the above schedule for a parson holding An Advanced Principal's
• Certificate and an earned Doctor's Degree.
♦Depending on type and siae of school,
S C H E D U L E IV, page 3
137a
138a
Schedule IV
(See Opposite)
ST/^CATS KIK3 -HCNTES SCHOOL
MONTHLY SALARY SCriECRir. "3" FOP. CLASSIFIED PRINCIPALS
1945-66
(ADD THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNTS EELOl-7 TO CLASSIFITD PRETCIPA1S' MONTHLY SAURY S «*f*«***'»̂ '
«• '*.«v f V
Csrtir: ' ate |Jr75S*rl y.«.'y.rti77 ̂*4 T' ̂ P-0 P-1 i p.-2 r -3 '..i . P-4 1 " M *1 P~1T'“1 3v?
G—IS ’ 32 27 24 20 16 12 e 4
0-22 29 26 22 19 15 12 7 4
0-11 27 24 21 17 14 11 7 3
G-10
A-12 25 22 19 16 ■ 33 9 6 . 3 ;
G-9
A -ll 23 20 13 15 12 8 6 3
G~3
A—10 21 19 16 14 11 8 5 3 *
G-7
A-9 19 i7 15 12 9
i
7 5 2
G—6
A-a 17 15 13 11 6 6 . 4 2
0-5
A-7 15 • 13 12 9 7 5 4
*
2
0—4
A-6 13 12 9 8
»
6 5 3 2
G-3
A-5
11 9 3 6 5 4 •. 3
G-2
A-4 8 7 6 5 4
#
3 2 1
A-3 6 5 5 4 3 2 2 - ' X
A-2 4 4 3 3 2 2 1 1
A -l 2 2 2 1 / I • i 1 0
A-0 0 0 0 0 , 0 0 ‘ 0 0
S C H E D U L E IV, page 4
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140a
SCHEDULE V
5. Please state the supplementary salaries or travel ex
penses allotted to coaches and industrial arts teachers
at each school.
W est S tan ly
3 coaches at $450.00 each—total $1,350.00
1 Industrial Arts teacher—$500.00
S ou th S tan ly
3 coaches at $450.00 each—total $1,350.00
I Industrial Arts teacher—$500.00
N obth S ta n ly
3 coaches at $450.00 each—total $1,350.00
1 Industrial Arts teacher—$500.00
W est B adin
1 coach at $450.00—total $450.00
West Badin does not offer Industrial Arts
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SCHEDULE VI
6. Please state the procedure or criteria used to deter
mine the allotment of teachers and administrative or
professional personnel at each school.
A. Teachers and principals (principal’s are alloted as
teachers) are alloted to the Stanly County Admin
istrative Unit according to the following Teacher
Allotment Policies and Begulations, 1965-66, adopt
ed by the North Carolina State Board of Educa
tion.
I. Objectives oe S tate T eacher A llotm en t
The State allotment of teaching positions is made to the
local school administrative units in order to provide a
sound program of instruction in the several subject areas
and to provide other supporting services essential to this
purpose.
While this State allotment of teaching positions is de
signed to provide an improved program, it should not be
considered as meeting more than minimum requirements.
It will profit the children little if the increased State
allotment results in a reduction of local effort. There
will continue to be need for locally-financed professional
personnel beyond the State allotment.
However, financed, the increase in the number of teach
ing positions to be filled must not be allowed to result in
a lowering of standards. An improved educational pro
gram demands more good teachers, but not lower stand
ards, in order to fill positions.
The State Board of Education is keenly aware of the
increased responsibility that goes with increased appro
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priations. While the Board has no desire to encroach on
local autonomy, it must assume its full share of responsi
bility. For that reason and in order to insure that maxi
mum improvement in education may accrue from the
appropriations made, the State Board of Education here
by adopts these regulations:
II. T h e A llo tm en t F orm ula
A. The Initial Allotment of Teachers
1. Base Allotment
a. The allotment of elementary and high school
teachers shall be made separately, by admin
istrative units, on the basis of average daily
attendance for the best continuous six months
of the first seven months, together with the
average daily absences due to contagious dis
eases for the same continuous six months as
calculated below:
(1) Average daily attendance and contagion
for the best continuous six months, 1964-65.
(Grades 1-8 elementary; 9-12 high school).
(2) Add: First grade average daily attend
ance, elementary; eighth grade average
daily attendance, high school; for 1964-65.
(3) Deduct: Average daily attendance for
1964-65 for the outgoing grade in the ad
ministrative unit, both elementary and high
schools.
(4) Add or deduct: An adjustment factor cal
culated separately by administrative units
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for elementary and high schools intended
to carry forward to 1965-66 the same net
increase or decrease caused by dropouts
and population changes experienced in
1964- 65.
(5) Calculate the adjustment factor using steps
(1), (2), and (3), above and the years
1963-64 instead of 1964-65.
(6) The actual average daily attendance and
contagion for the best continuous six
months of 1964-65 are to be deducted from
the prospective average daily attendance
and contagion calculated in Step (5) to
determine the adjustment factor for the
calculation of allotment credits for the
allotment of teachers for the school year
1965- 66.
(7) Transfers of pupils between administra
tive units will be taken into consideration
in the calculation of the adjustment factor
for each administrative unit involved.
b. The elementary allotment shall be six teachers
for the first 153 pupils, grades one through
three, plus one teacher for each 27 pupils in
the remainder of grades one through three, and
six teachers for the first 171 pupils, grades
four through eight, plus one teacher for each
30 pupils in the remainder of grades four
through eight.
c. The high school allotment shall be four teachers
for the first 80 pupils for the first junior or
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senior high school, three teachers for 60 pupils
for each additional junior or senior high school
plus one teacher for each 30 pupils thereafter.
d. For high school consolidations with or after
the school year 1964-65, the allotment of teach
ers to the administrative unit for the first and
second year of the consolidation shall he com
puted on the number of high schools in the
unit for the last year of operation before the
consolidation.
2. Allotment in Addition to Base Allotment
These positions shall be allotted to administrative
units on the basis of one position for each 15 posi
tions allotted under the “base allotment” set out
above.
B. Revision of the Allotment of Teachers After the Be
ginning of the School Term
1. After two weeks of the school term 1965-66, if the
average daily attendance per teacher allotted in
the base allotment to an administrative unit, high
school and elementary separately, has been as
many as 31 pupils per teacher, an additional teach
er or teachers may be allotted, provided that the
attendance for the best continuous six months of
the first seven months of 1964-65 was sufficient to
continue in the original allotment for 1965-66 addi
tional positions which were allotted at the close
of the first two weeks of the 1964-65 term.
2. Positions allotted under Section 1, above, shall be
paid for the number of days that such positions
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145a
are filled retroactive to the beginning of the school
term.
3. Before application is made for additional teachers,
the superintendent of the administrative unit shall
determine that the positions already allotted do
not meet the need of the administrative unit based
on attendance.
4. At the request of the superintendent based on
attendance records, the Controller may approve
transfers of positions between the elementary and
high school allotment.
C. Allotment for Special Purposes
1. Provision is made for a separate allotment of
teachers in approved programs of special educa
tion, including the educable mentally retarded,
crippled, visually handicapped, and speech correc
tion.
2. Provision is made for separate allotment of teach
ers in approved programs for exceptionally tal
ented children.
3. Separate rules and regulations are provided for
the allotment and employment of supervisors to
be paid from State funds.
D. Additional Allotment Regulations
1. The initial allotment of positions takes into account
recorded transfers of pupils between administra
tive units. For transfers occurring after the in
itial allotment, an adjustment will be made in the
allotment of the administrative units involved.
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146a
Positions will not be allotted to two administra
tive units for the same pupils.
2. It is expected that each administrative unit will
refrain from employing a teacher, although al
lotted, when it is found prior to the employment
of the teacher that the attendance will be or is
insufficient for such a teacher.
3. Attendance of pupils in self-contained classes for
the educable mentally retarded, crippled, and visu
ally handicapped shall not be counted in attend
ance for the regular teacher allotment.
III. R eduction- of C lass S ize in Grades O n e ,
Two, and T hree
A. The teacher allotment formula, in so far as is feasible,
provides for a reduction in the teacher-pupil ratio of
three pupils in each of the first three grades in rela
tionship to the teacher allotment formula for 1964-65.
B. County and city boards of education shall assign the
teachers allotted for the purpose of reducing the
teacher-pupil ratio in grades one through three to
classroom teaching of pupils in grades one through
three in the various schools of the administrative units
in so far as possible, including the increase in the
“Allotment in Addition to the Base Allotment” caused
by the change in the teacher allotment formula for
grades one through three.
IY . U se of S tate-A llotted P ositions
A. County and city boards of education shall assign al
lotted teaching positions to schools on a fair and
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147a
equitable basis and shall make transfers of teaching
positions between schools when enrollment changes
make such transfers necessary.
B. It is the policy of the State Board of Education that
before State-allotted elementary or high school teach
ing positions are used for special services or sub
jects, the school shall be organized so that the ele
mentary classes are not excessively overcrowded and
the load of the high school teachers is reasonable.
C. The base State allotment of teaching positions is pro
vided to keep the average class membership to a rea
sonable size, to provide for classroom instruction in
the subjects that make up the curriculum and to
carry out other essential duties connected with the
operation of the schools necessary to the achievement
of maximum improvement in education. It is the
responsibility of the local board and superintendent
to use these positions for these purposes.
I). The additional State teaching position allotments
made under II-A-2, above, are to be used to provide
an improved teaching-learning situation for students
beyond what is possible with the base allotment alone.
The local school board and school superintendent are
given the responsibility for developing a local plan
for the use of these additional allotments for any
combination of the most needed of the following pur
poses, all of which are given top priority:
1. To reduce class size.
2. To provide librarians
3. To provide guidance counselors
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4. To relieve principals of teaching duties
5. To provide challenging instruction for gifted chil
dren
6. To provide special instruction for retarded chil
dren
The additional allotments caused by the change in
the teacher allotment formula for grades one through
three shall be used only to reduce class size in these
grades.
V . D evelopm en t and A pproval of L ocal P lans
A. It shall he expected that the local plan for the use of
these additional allotments will, as far as possible,
provide a balanced educational program in each school
in the administrative unit, and will observe equity
in the assignment of these positions among the dif
ferent schools.
B. In addition, it must he demonstrated in the local plan
that priorities established do not result in the use of
a disproportionate number of these positions for any
of the purposes listed above while leaving other needs
unfilled. For example, to free principals of the small
schools from teaching duties while making no provi
sions for some other important need will not he
looked upon with favor.
C. The State Board of Education does not intend that
these additional allotments shall be used in such a
way as to free a base allotment to he used for a pur
pose that could not he approved under the regulations
governing the use of the additional allotments.
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149a
D. The local plan for the use of these positions shall be
filed prior to Angnst 1 with the State Superintendent
of Public Instruction on forms to be furnished. These
plans shall be evaluated by a panel consisting of the
State Superintendent of Public Instruction or his rep
resentative and the Controller of the State Board of
Education or his representative. Prior to the dis
approval of any part of a plan, the panel shall request
a conference with the Superintendent of the adminis
trative unit in which he will be asked to justify the
plan or make adjustments.
E. The panel shall make a report to the State Board of
Education of action taken on the plans submitted. In
cases where a plan is still not approved following the
conference, the State Board will review the decision
of the panel and reserves the right to withhold the
allotment of the position or positions involved.
V I . R eview of U se of A ll I nstructional and S upervisory
P ersonnel E mployed
A. Within five days after the end of the first month of
the school term, the superintendent of each adminis
trative unit shall file a report for each school with the
Division of Instructional Services of the Department
of Public Instruction. This report shall be filed on
forms furnished by the above division and shall indi
cate the complete organization of each school, duties
of each teacher or other instructional personnel, and
class size or teaching load.
B. Following the review of the above reports, the State
Superintendent of Public Instruction shall give the
State Board of Education his appraisal of the or
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150a
ganization of the schools and use of State-allotted
personnel in each administrative unit.
B. Upon receipt of the allotment of teachers from the
State Board of Education and in keeping with the
foregoing Teacher Allotment Policies and Regula
tions, the Stanly County Board of Education informs
the principal of each school in the Stanly County Ad
ministrative Unit of the total number of teaching posi
tions assigned to each school.
Assignment of total teaching positions by the Board
of Education to the several schools of the County is
dependent upon many variables which are reflected
in the attached chart marked Allocation Chart—
Teaching Positions. The Stanly County Board of Ed
ucation, governed by State Teacher Allotment Poli
cies and Regulations, is limited by the allotment for
mula in its assignment of teaching positions to the
several schools.
Assignment of teachers by the Board of Education to
a specific school is made only upon the recommenda
tion of the principal with approval by the Superintend
ent and Board of Education.
E xplan atio n of A llocation C h art— T each in g P ositions
C. Column 1. Name of school
2. This column indicates the number of Pri
mary teaching positions. Overage of pu
pils is shown in parenthesis. The State
Primary Grade allotment formula was ap
plied to each school to determine the al-
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151a
lotment credits and this number was
divided by 27 for each school.
3. Extras are those teaching positions left
over after applying the allotment formula
to the several schools. These positions are
then alloted according to comparative
needs.
4. Allotment of the “1-15” position—these
positions are alloted according to need.
5. Minimum number of Primary teaching
positions.
6. The State Grammar Grade allotment for
mula was applied to each school to deter
mine the allotment credit and this number
is divided by 30 for each school.
7. Extras are those teaching positions left
over after applying the allotment formula
to the several schools. These positions are
then alloted according to comparative
needs.
8. Total grammar grade teaching positions.
9. Transfer credit teaching positions from
transfers outside the system.
10. Transfer credit teaching position from
transfers within the County.
11. 1-15 teaching positions allocated on the
basis of need and State Rules and Regula
tions.
Schedule VI
12. Total teaching positions.
152a
D . H igh S chool
1. Allotment of high school teaching positions are
made in accordance with the State rules and regu
lations governing the allotment of high school
teachers. The only basic difference in alloting high
school teaching positions from the alloting of ele
mentary teaching positions is the application of
the high school allotment formula. Otherwise, al
loting of high school position is basically the same
as described above.
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9l
‘ia
primary
Cl'ART - T-’Anii ic fosjtioms
grammar
O«_ ____3_____ 1 5
---T ■■■— -—b 7 a o 10 ll .12
SCHOOL
Allotment
Formula Extras
1-15 Total
1-Rcquired Primary
Allotment
Ferrule Extras
Total
Cram.
Transfer
Credit (City)
Transfer |
County 1-15 1
Total
School
F-fillincport 3 112)
.
1 h <■ ( 1 2 ) 6
t i--------------- r
10
Richfield 3 (U)
.
: 3 b (23) ; 1 5 1 (15) i ! ?
New London ’ 7 (2)
!1i!
<
j 7 : 12 (10)
i
!i 12 1 (39)
1 "
1
1 20
Bad in ; h (5)
*
11
t
! u I 7 (5)
i
I i t ! (17) l 12
Norwood • 9 (2 )
|i1 ! 9 ! 13 (3) i| ! 13 r +2 (67) | l 25
Aquadale b (3)
I
1 1* j 7 (21)
\
\ i I 8 i! 12
Endy 3 (10) ii .
■ -
1 k ! 5 iii j 5
I
I\ l 10
Oakboro 6 (7) \\ 6 j 9 (7)
i
ii i io
«
|
1
l 17
Stanfield b (15)
i
| l 5 1 6 ( l l ) ii : 6 i1 11
Ridgecrest 2 ( b )
it1 2 3 (17) I i i h i
ii i
! 6
Locust * 1* (2U)
1
1 1 5 ! 7 (13) ii
i
; 7 *
J1 i
i 1 ! 13
Vest Badin 2 ( 2 1 )
1
| 1 -N0 li (2 2 )
i
(
! 1 1 5 ! (-17) 1/ 2 i 8 1 / 2
Kake View 3 (9) ; 3 b (26)
*
1 i 5 -2(-60)
t
1 / 2 ; 6 i /2
South Oakboro : i ( 1 6 ) 1 2 __________ g (m ) « 2
2 3 ----------------- n-----------------
■ . . . . . . . .
- ........r -
- ■ 4 - — ....... — -
7
HIGH SCHOOLS
Allotment
Formula Extras Transfers Total 1-15
Tot al
1 School
North Stanly 23 (U) 1 ( 10 0 ) 2 b 3 27
South Stanly 16 (2h) 1 (23) - I T ......... 3
J
20
West Stanly 22 (26) 1 (11) 23 2 1 25
West Badin 6 (25) -2 (-86) h ' b
153a
154a
Set No. 1
Defendant requests that plaintiffs answer separately
under oath in accordance with Rule 33 of the Federal Rules
of Procedure the following interrogatories:
1. State name of each teacher or other school personnel
other than individual plaintiff that plaintiffs say has been
dismissed from employment by defendant solely on the
basis of race or color.
2. As to each teacher or other school personnel named
in answer to Interrogatory No. 1 above, state:
(a) Present address;
(b) Position held in defendant system prior to dismissal;
(c) Approximate date of dismissal;
(d) School in defendant system such person taught or
worked prior to dismissal; and
(e) If employed, present employment.
3. State name of each teacher or other school personnel
other than individual plaintiff whose application for em
ployment in defendant system plaintiffs say has not been
considered by defendant solely on the basis of race or
color.
4. As to each person named in answer to Interrogatory
No. 3 above, state:
(a) Present address;
(b) Approximate date application made for employment;
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155a
Interrogatories of Defendant
(c) Position of employment for which applied;
(d) Approximate date application rejected; and
(e) Reason assigned by defendant for not employing
applicant.
5. State name, address, and position of each officer of
corporate plaintiff.
6. State name and address of each officer and agent
of corporate plaintiff who investigated or had knowledge
of the practices of hiring, dismissing, and assigning of
teachers and other school personnel employed by defen
dant in its system prior to the institution of this action.
156a
Set No. 1
The Plaintiff, Audrey Gillis Wall, answers the inter
rogatories served upon her by the defendant on Septem
ber 10, 1965, as follows:
Interrogatory No. 1. State name of each teacher or
other school personnel other than individual plaintiff that
plaintiffs say has been dismissed from employment by
defendant solely on the basis of race or color.
Answer. The plaintiff does not know the name or names
of Negro teachers whose contracts were not renewed by
the defendant for the 1965-66 school year. The plaintiff
is in the process of securing the names of these teachers
and will furnish information requested in Interrogatory
No. 1 to the defendant.
Interrogatory No. 2. As to each teacher or other school
personnel named in answer to Interrogatory No. 1 above,
state:
(a) Present address;
(b) Position held in defendant system prior to dismissal;
(c) Approximate date of dismissal;
(d) School in defendant system such person taught or
worked prior to dismissal; and
(e) If employed, present employment.
Answer. See answer to Interrogatory No. 1.
Interrogatory No. 3. State name of each teacher or
other school personnel other than individual plaintiff whose
Answers to Interrogatories
157a
application for employment in defendant system plaintiffs
say lias not been considered by defendant solely on the
basis of race or color.
Answer. Plaintiff does not know the name of each teacher
whose contract was renewed by the defendant for the
1965-66 school year. Plaintiff is presently seeking to dis
cover such names through discovery and will furnish the
information requested to the defendant. Plaintiff states,
however, that all teachers in the school system were con
sidered for employment, employed and assigned on the
basis of race.
Answers to Interrogatories
Interrogatory No. 4. As to each person named in an
swer to Interrogatory No. 3 above, state:
(a) Present address;
(b) Approximate date application made for employment;
(c) Position of employment for which applied;
(d) Approximate date application rejected; and
(e) Reason assigned by defendant for not employing ap
plicant.
Answer. See answer to Interrogatory No. 3.
Interrogatory No. 5. State name, address, and position
of each officer of corporate plaintiff.
Answer.
S. E. Duncan
President
Salisbury, N. C.
M. M. Daniels
Vice President
Wilson, N. C.
Mrs. Geneva J. Bowe
Recording Secretary
Murfreesboro, N. C.
N. H. Harris
Treasurer
Raleigh, North Carolina
158a
Answers to Interrogatories
E. B. Palmer, Sr.
Executive Secretary
Raleigh, North Carolina
Interrogatory No. 6. State name and address of each
officer and agent of corporate plaintiff who investigated
or had knowledge of the practices of hiring, dismissing,
and assigning of teachers and other school personnel em
ployed by defendant in its system prior to the institution
of this action.
Answer. E. B. Palmer, Sr.
Executive Secretary
Raleigh, North Carolina
Dated: September 27, 1965.
159a
The Plaintiff, Audrey Gillis Wall, answers the interroga
tories served upon her by the defendant on September 10,
1965, as follows:
Interrogatory No. 1. State the name of each teacher or
other school personnel other than individual plaintiff that
plaintiffs say has been dismissed from employment by de
fendant solely on the basis of race or color.
Answer to Interrogatory No. 1. Audrey Gillis Wall, Nell
Holms, Fredrick Welborn, and Edrina Davis Turner.
Interrogatory No. 2. As to each teacher or other school
personnel named in answer to Interrogatory No. 1 above,
state:
(a) Present address;
(b) Position held in defendant system prior to dismissal;
(c) Approximate date of dismissal;
(d) School in defendant system such person taught or
worked prior to dismissal; and
(e) If employed, present employment.
Answers to Interrogatories
Answer to Interrogatory No. 2:
N a m e P o sitio n B a te S c h o o l
( a ) (b) (o) (d)
Audrey Gillis W all
P. 0 . Box 585
422 W all Street
Albemarle, North Carolina
Elementary July, 1965 Lake View
Nell Holms High School May, 1965 W est Badin
General Delivery
East Spencer, North Carolina
160a
Fredrick W elborn H igh School June, 1965 W est Badin
425 S. Boundary Street
Salisbury, North Carolina
Edrina Davis Turner Elementary May, 1965 Lake View
South Oakboro
Elementary School
Oakboro, North Carolina
Interrogatory No. 3. State name of each teacher or other
school personnel other than individual plaintiff whose ap
plication for employment in defendant system plaintiffs say
has not been considered by defendant solely on the basis
of race or color.
Answer to Interrogatory No. 3: Same as answers to in
terrogatories No. 1 and 2.
Interrogatory No. 4. As to each person named in answer
to Interrogatory No. 3 above, state:
(a) Present address;
(b) Approximate date application made for employment;
(c) Position of employment for which applied;
(d) Approximate date application rejected; and
(e) Reason assigned by defendant for not emloying appli
cant.
Answer to Interrogatory No. 4a. Same as answers to
Interrogatories No. 1 and 2.
As to Interrogatories No. 4b, plaintiff does not have any
knowledge or position of any facts with reference to these
Interrogatories. Defendant is in a better position to know
the answers to these Interrogatories than plaintiff.
Answers to Interrogatories
Dated: October 27, 1965.
161a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for Millingport School for the
1965-66 School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary 4
Grammar Grade 6
Either Primary or G. G.
High School
Vocational:
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented
T otal A llotm en t 10
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Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
162a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for Richfield School for the 1965-66
School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary 3
Grammar Grade 5
Either Primary or G. G. 1
High School
Vocational:
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented (Itin
erant program will be con
tinued in 1965-66)
T otal A llotm en t 9
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Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
163a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
The Teacher Allotment for New London School for the
1965-66 School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
High School
Vocational:
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented (Itin
erant program will be con
tinued in 1965-66)
T otal A llotm en t 20
Primary
Grammar Grade
Either Primary or G. G.
7
12
1
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
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164a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for Badin School for the 1965-66
School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Primary 4
Grammar Grade 7
Either Primary or G. G. 1
High School ....
V ocational:
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Betarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented (Itin
erant program will be con
tinued in 1965-66)
T otal A llo tm en t 12
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Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
165a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
The Teacher Allotment for Norwood School for the 1965-66
School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
High School
Vocational:
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Eetarded 2
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented (Itin
erant program will be con
tinued in 1965-66)
T otal A llotm en t 27
Primary
Grammar Grade
Either Primary or G. G.
15
9
1
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
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166a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
The Teacher Allotment for Aqnadale School for the 1965-66
School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Either Primary or G. G.
High School
Vocational:
Guidance Counselor (County)
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented (Itin
erant program will be con
tinued in 1965-66)
Primary
Grammar Grade
4
8
T otal A llotm en t 12
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
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167a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for Endy School for the 1965-66
School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Primary 4
Grammar Grade 5
Either Primary or G. G. 1
High School . . . .
Vocational:
Ghiidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented (Itin
erant program will be con
tinued in 1965-66)
T otal A llotm en t 10
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Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
168a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for Oakboro School for the 1965-66
School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary 6
Grammar Grade 10
Either Primary or G. G. 1
High School
Vocational:
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented (Itin
erant program will be con
tinued in 1965-66)
T otal A llo tm en t 17
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
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169a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
The Teacher Allotment for Stanfield School for the 1965-66
School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Either Primary or Gf. G.
High School
Vocational:
Guidance Counselor (County)
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented (Itin
erant program will be con
tinued in 1965-66)
Primary
Grammar Grade 6
5
T otal A llotm en t 11
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
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170a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
Jnne 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for Ridgecrest School for the 1965-
66 School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary
Grammar Grade
Either Primary or G. G.
High School
Vocational:
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented
T otal A llo tm en t 6
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
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2
4
171a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for Locnst School for the 1965-66
School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary 5
Grammar Grade 7
Either Primary or G. G.
High School
Vocational:
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented (Itin
erant program will be con
tinued in 1965-66)
T otal A llotm en t 12
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Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
172a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for West Badin School for the
1965-66 School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary
Grammar Grade
Either Primary or G.G.
(Librarian to
be shared
with
Lake View.)
High School
Vocational:
Home Economics
T & I
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded 1
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented
T otal A llo tm en t 15 %
LAA :jlf
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
173a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for Lake View School for the 1965-
66 School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary 3
Grammar Grade 3
Either Primary or G.G. V2
(Librarian to
be shared
with
West Badin.)
High School
Vocational:
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented
T o ta l A l l o t m e n t 6 ]/2
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
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STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for South Oakboro School for the
1965-66 School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary 2
Grammar Grade 2
Either Primary or G. G.
High School
Vocational:
Teacher Allotments for 1965-66
Guidance Counselor (County) ....
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented
T otal A llo tm en t 4
LAA: jlf
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
175a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
July 26, 1966
The Revised Teacher Allotment for North Stanly High
School for the 1965-66 School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary
Grammar Grade
Either Primary or G. G.
High School 27
(includes one (1)
Librarian and one
(1) Music)
Vocational:
Agriculture 1
Home Economics 2
List o f New Teachers for 1965-66
D. E.
T & I
1
1
Guidance Counselor (County) 1
Industrial Arts (County) 1
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented
T otal A llotm en t 34
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
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176a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
Jane 25, 1965
The Teacher Allotment for South Stanly High School for
the 1965-66 School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary
Grammar Grade
Either Primary or G. G.
High School 20
(includes one (1)
Librarian and one
(1) Music)
Vocational:
List of New Teachers for 1965-66
Agriculture 2
Home Economics 2
T & I 2
(Includes one
[11 ICT)
I. V. 1
Guidance Counselor (County) 1
Industrial Arts (County) 1
Educable Mentally Retarded 1
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented
T otal A llotm en t 30
LAA: jlf
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
177a
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
330 North First Street
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
June 25, 1965
List of New Teachers for 1965-66
The Teacher Allotment for West Stanly High School for
the 1965-66 School Year is as follows:
State Allotment:
Primary
Grammar Grade
Either Primary or G. G.
High School
(includes one (1)
Librarian and one
(1) Music)
25
Vocational:
Agriculture
Home Economics
D. E.
T & I
I V
2
1
3
%
iy2
Guidance Counselor (County)
Industrial Arts (County)
Educable Mentally Retarded
Speech Therapist
Exceptionally Talented
1
1
T otal A llotm ent 35
Luther A. Adams, Superintendent
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178a
T eachers W ho W ere E mployed F or 1965-66
B ut W ere N ot E mployed F or 1964-65
List of New Teachers for 1965-66
Bonnie T. McDonald
Mary S. Vick
Mary B. Lewis
Sherrill D. Lowder
Jeanette J. Watson
Johnny P. Burleson
Wyatt McSwain
Mary 0. Case
Nellie J. Tew
Elizabeth Troutman
George 0. Jackson
James G. Mauldin
Julia A. McCaskill
Brenda S. Stiller
Judith Utley
Barbara E. Lineberger
Mirle H. Carriker
Robert C. Lewis
Harold D. Davenport
Paulette M. Duke
Emily R. Wood
Mary B. Bundy
Everette W. Finney
Mary F. Hodges
James D. Mills
Bobby W. Carter
Lois Watson
Tyna C. Bracknell
Suzanne Swindell
Billy C. Hutchinson
Margaret W. Burleson
Peggy B. Murdock
Ruth H. Whitley
George E. Arnold
Susan J. Davis
William K. Rudolph
Henry P. Eaton
Claudette S. Gethers
Judi B. Kimrey
Kenneth E. Forte
George W. Heafner
Carole B. Huneycutt
Joyce Holt
Jean A. Efird
Elaine H. Orzechowski
Ella H. Little
Sallie S. Brown
Mary C. Plumer
Judge W. Morgan
Robert A. Blalock
Richard H. Wright
Douglas D. Case
Tom A. Morgan
Bernice D. Eaton
179a
List of Teachers Not Returning for 1965-66
T eachers W ho T aught I n S tan ly C ounty I n 1964-65
W ho D id N ot R eturn I n 1965-66
Pansy L. Sigmon
Martha S. Lowder
Verna R. Wilson
Shirley G. Snnggs
Earl C. Smith
Jerry P. Almond
Joel P. McLendon
Sally A. Youngblood
Edna F. Edwards
Grace J. Bryant
Audrey G. Wall
Ramona R. Wilson
Bobby G. Owens
Elizabeth M. Licari
Sandra B. Biles
Paul W. Peddicord
Donna W. Hearne
Conrad N. Austin
Mary E. Latham
Sarah A. Lisk
Marjorie B. Melton
Chester P. Hollingsworth
Naomi P. Stambaugh
Ruth C. Mabry
Ann K. Lee
Charlotte R. Hartsell
Bertha T. Rogers
Nancy E. Speight
Janet H. Pratt
Joan W. Sells
Jack D. Clark
James L. Thomas
Patricia W. Jeffers
Phyllis M. Martin
Brenda J. Fries
Alvaro Garcia
Barbara H. Ratliff
Brenda S. Laughter
Sue R. McCroskey
James P. Love
Eula L. Teeter
Ona L. Little
Melvin L. Wall
Nellie H. Holmes
Frederick L. Winborne
Ernest W. Dixon
Mary 0. Glenn
Estella T. McNeill
Billy W. Hinson
Zeb G. Barnhardt
Sarah L. Bumgarner
James W. Preble
Donald H. Price
Viola P. Nichols
180a
List of Schools by Race 1965-66
S tan ly C oun ty S chools
L ist of A ll S chools in S tan ly C ou n ty and N um ber of
P upils E nrolled by R ace
S c h o o l W h i t e C o l o r e d
Aquadale 331
Badin 324 18
Endy 276
Lake View 188
Locust 354
Millingport 267 5
New London 540 38
North Stanly 654 102
Norwood 678 68
Oakboro 453
Richfield 246 18
Ridgecrest 172
South Oakboro 120
South Stanly 505 31
Stanfield 293
West Badin 328
West Stanly 672 9
List of all teachers in school" hy race:
* Denotes Negro
DIRECTORY
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
ALBEMARLE, WORTH CAROLINA
BOARD OF EDUCATION
Name /Address. Telephone No.
Reece McSvain, Chairman
Robert E. Lovder, Vice-Chair.
Eugene B. Pickier
Claude E. Teeter
Robert E. Young
Rt. U, Albemarle, N. C.
Norwood, N. C.
Rt. 1, New London, K. C.
9th St. , Oakboro, II. C.
Pee Dee Ave., Norwood, N. C.
982-3096
W -3715
1+63-5062
1+85-3856
L7 L-3U50
SUPERINTENDENT’ S OFFICE, 330 North First S t ., Albemarle, N. C. , 982-2512
Luther A. Adams, Supt.
Oliven T. Cowan, Asst. Supt.
Ul7 E. S t ., Albemarle, N. C.
South Main S t ., Oakboro, N. C.
Supervisors
Joyce L. Reid
Mary K. Barringer
River View Road, Norwood, N. C.
50U E. Cannon Ave., Albemarle, N. C.
Secretaries
Nancy Langley
Margie Alligood
Julia Furr
758 Pee Dee Ave., Albemarle, N. C.
523 N. 5th S t ., Albemarle, K. C.
Rt. 1, R ichfield ,'N . C. • '
Exceptionally Talented
Elizabeth W. Adams
Adelaide Y. McNeill
1*17 East S t ., Albemarle, N. C.
East Street, Norwood, N. C.
Driver Education
Kenneth Brown
Wayne Burris
Salisbury Rd., Albemarle, N. C.
Rt. 1, Oakboro, N. C.
Speech Therapist
Lois Watson 233 H. Uth S t ., Albemarle, N. C.
Attendance Counselor
Carolyn M. Kelly Rt. 1+, Albemarle, N. C.
PRINCIPAL’ S LIST
Name of Principal School nnd Address Telephone
R. Clayton Lewis
B illy J. Nix
Robert L. Garmon *
Glover L. Hines
North Stanly, Box 38, New London
South Stanly, Rt. 1, Norwood
West Stanly, Rt. 1, Oakboro
West Badin, Badin
\J03-6191
GR1+-3155
HU5-3012
HA2-3288
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(See Opposite) 2 ^
DIRECTORY
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Principal’ s List Continued
Name of Principal School and Address Telephone No
J. Frank Turner Hew London, New London H03-l*531
Elvin Fisher, Jr. Badin, Badin HA2-3660
Martin L. Coggin Norwood, Norwood GRU-3126
Vernie F. Horton Aquadale, Rt. 2 , Norwood GRU-3212
Stephen F. Hopkins Endy, Rt. U, Albemarle YU2-5193
Ralph C. Cole Oakboro, Oakboro HU5-35*H
L. P. Beck Stanfield, Stanfield ‘ L.D. TUO-2361
William K. Rudolph Ridgecrest, Rt. 1 , Stanfield HU5-3825
Noman Maples Locust, Locust L.D. TU8-9921
Robert McLendon Lake View, Norwood GRU-3^10
Henry P. Eaton South Oakboro, Oakboro HU5-3T11
George E. Jackson Millingport, Rt. 3> Albemarle YU2-2261
Charles P. Misenheimer Richfield, Richfield H03-3211
TRAITSPORTATIQH DIVISION, Freeman Avenue, Albemarle, N. C. , 9 ^ - h ^ l U
Craig J. Smith, Supervisor 1131 Pee Dee Ave., Albemarle, N. C.
Barbara L. Drye, Sec. 60 Cedar S t ., Badin, N. C.
Jim David Lee Albemarle, IJ. C.
Joe E. Huneycutt Rt. 1 , Oakboro, II. C.
Alfred Judge Clark General Delivery, Norwood, H. C.
MAINTENANCE DIVISION, Oakboro, IT. C ., KU5-3011
Crowell J. Smith, Supervisor P. 0. Box 225, Oakboro, N. C.
Clyde T. Isenhour Rt. 1 , Box 93, New London, N. C.
Clyde F. Hatley Box l 6l , Oakboro, II. C.
Dolen D. Loflin New London, N. C.
Billy Lovingood Rt. 1, Stanfield, N. C.
II. Wayne Huneycutt New London, N. C.
Gerald E. Whitley R t . 1, Oakboro, N. C.
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TEACHER DIRECTORY
STANLY COUNTY SCHOOLS
1965-66
Aquadale School, Route 2, Norwood, N. C. GRU-3212
Name Address Grade or Subject
Teaching
Vernie F. Horton, Prin. Rt. 2 , Norwood, N. C.
Bonnie T. McDonald Rt. 1 , Albemarle, N. C. 7 & 8
Donald K. Abernathy 612 Coble Ave. , Albemarle, N. C. 8
Katherine S. Caneron Rt. 2 , Norwood, N. C. 7
Janice B. Abernathy 6l2 Coble Ave. , Albemarle, N. C. 6
Elizabeth A. Horne Rt. 1 , Polkton, N. C. 5
Thomas W. Ward 509 Smith St . , Albemarle, N. C. 5
Mary S. Vick Box 26U, Norwood, N. C. k
Allene H. Winfree 80 Pine St. , Badin, N. C. 3
Gladys E. Ferrell 501 Pee Dee. Ave. , Albemarle, N. C. 2
Lottie A. Houck Oakboro, N. C. 1 & 2
Edith P. Thompson P. 0. Box 6 , Albemarle, N. C. 1
Badin School, Badin, K. C. HA2-3660
Elvin M. Fisher, Prin. Badin, N. C. 7
Vernon E. Lentz Rt. 2 , New London, M. C. 8
Mary B. Lewis Box 38, New London, II. C. 8
Sherrill D. Lovder Anderson Heights, Albemarle, II. C. 7
Margaret R. Dunlap Rt. 2, Box 213, Mt. Gilead, N. C. 6
Rachel H. Lowder 1325 E. Main S t . , Albemarle, N. C. 5 & 6
Pauline B. Abernethy Box U31, Badin. N. C. 5
Jane L. Bell Box 332, Misenheiraer, 11. C. U
Peggy R. Ross 5 Cheoak St. , Badin, N. C. 3
Janette J. Watson 78 Haple S t . , Badin, II. C. 3
Daisie W. Holmes Box 7^3, Badin, N. C. 2
Josie Chrisco U6 Henderson S t . , Badin, N. C. 1
Endy School, Rt. U, Albemarle. H. C .. YU2-5193
Fred S. Hopkins, Prin. Rt. U, Albemarle, N. C. A
Johnny P. Burleson Rt. 3, Albemarle, H. C. c
Sue S. Page 1223 VJalnut S t . , Albemarle, k. 0 . 7
c
VJyatt Me Swain Rt. U, Box 62, Albemarle, N. C. 0
*;
Mary G. Case Box 935 , Badin, II. C. j
K ft 5
Horace H. Mabry Rt. 2, Albemarle, II. C. u
Betty B. Welch 307 Arey Ave., Albemarle, u. u.
Carolyn H. Burleson 20U 8th S t . , Albemarle, N. C.. J
2
L illie R. Lisenby Rt. U, Albemarle, N. C. 1
Grace R. Speight Rt. U, Albemarle, N. C.
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Lake View School, Norwood, N. C. GRl*-3**lQ
Name
* Robert E. McLendon, Prin,
* Melvin J. Ruch
* Geraldine R. Taylor
* Fannie F. Coley
* Wanda W. Cogdell
* Mary S. Winfield
* Bernice D. Eaton
Address Grade or Subject
Teaching
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Norwood, N. C.
P. 0. Box 87. Norwood, N. C.
P. 0. Box k 3 2 , Norwood, N. C.
P. 0. Box U56, Badin, II. C.
1003 Macon S t . , Kinston, II. C.
Box 801, Albemarle, II. C.
JjJSouth Oakboro School, Oakboro, II. C.Librarian
8
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3
2
1
Locust School, Locust, N. C. 888-9921
Norman W. Maples, Prin. Locust, II. C.
Olive B. Biggers Box 113, Midland, N. C. 8
James D. Kennedy Box 17U, Locust, IJ. C. 7
Vernon Hunsucker, Jr. P. 0. Box 1*33, Locust, N. C. 6 &
Faye R. Skidmore 833 E. Main S t . , Albemarle, N. C. 6
Margaret E. Shipton Rt. 3, Box 1**6, Concord, N. C. 5
Elizabeth C. Troutman Rt. 1, Midland, II. C. I* &
Inez S. Helms Rt. 2, Stanfield, N. C. 3 &
Ann H. Lane Rt. 1 , Albemarle, N. C. 3
Odessa L. Hatley Rt. 2 , Box 286-N, Stanfield, N . C. 2
Rena V. Efird P. 0. Box 68, Stanfield, N. C. 1 &
Nellie J. Tew 922 Smith S t . , Albemarle, N. C. 1
Millingport School, Route 3, Albemarle, I\T. C ., 982-2261
George E. Jackson, Prin. Rt. 3, Albemarle, II. C.
Julia A. McCaskill Pee Dee Ave. , Albemarle, II. C. 5 &
James G. Mauldin 527 Moss Spring Rd., Albemarle, II. C. 8
Mary D. Hauss 1210 Melchor Rd., Albemarle, N. C. 7
Melvin H. Rouse 1002 Brantley Rd., Kannapolis, N. C. 6
Irene T. Peck Box 15**, Misenheimer, H. C. 5
Evelyn W. Allred Richfield, N. C. b
Vina H. Elder Rt. 3, Box 506, Albemarle, H. C. 3
Virgie H. Whitley 503 S. 3rd S t . , Albemarle, N. C. 2
Brenda S. S tiller Rt. 3, Box 629, Albemarle, N. C. 1
New London School, Hew London, II. C. , H03-**531
J. Frank Turner, Prin.
Margaret B. Ivey
Joseph K. Frick
Judith D. Utley
Margaret F. Allen
Mary S. Chestnut
Barbara E. Lineberger
Christine M. Clayton
Connie T. Sharpe
Helen M. Small
Lucile H. Harris
Hew London, N . C .
Box 6oU , Albemarle, N. C.
Rt. 1, Richfield, H. C.
600 Pee Dee Ave., Albemarle, N. C.
Rt. 1 , Denton, N. C.
Box i b b , New London, H. C.
Pfeiffer College, Nisenheimer, N. C.
Rt. 1, New London, K. C.
P. 0. Box 183, Misenheimer, N. C.
Hew London School
Box 32, Mew London, II. C.
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New London School Continued
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TEACHER DIRECTORY Page 3
Name Address Grade or Subject
Teaching
Margaret M. Turner
Esther B. Gaddy
Mirle H. Carriker
Elizabeth C. Harvard
Mary W. Lyerly
Ann S. Upchurch
Kary \J. Taylor
Callie M. Goodman
Gladys I . Fespeman
Worth Stanly High School,
LJew London, II. C.
Box 1^5, Albemarle, H. C.
Box 3^, Hew London, II. C.
Rt. 2 , Box 323* Norwood, II. C.
Box 655, Badin, II. C.
Rt. 1 , Box 106F, Hew London, II. C.
U37 Cannon Ave., Albemarle, II. C.
50U E. Cannon Ave., Albemarle, H. C
U33 E. Cannon Ave., Albemarle, II. C
Box 38, Hew London, IIO3- 619I
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. 1
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Robert C. Lewis, Prin. Box 38, Hew London, 17. C.
Suzanne B. Smith Rt. 1, Box 81, Richfield, II. C. Commercial
Geraldine R. Chrisco U3 Hickory S t . , Badin, H. C. Commercial
Jo Anne Hildreth Rt. 1, Hew London, H. C. Librarian
Harold D. Davenport Box 188, Hew London, K. C. Engli sh
Kelson P. Burr 720 W. Oakwood Ave., Albemarle, II.C.English
Lonnie Chandler Rt. 2 , Hew London, 17. C. Biology & P.Ii
Jack D. Fesperman 816 N. 5th S t . , Albemarle, C. Biology & P.E
Paulette M. Duke 317 N. 1st St. , Albemarle, II. C. Math
Foy Gene Powell 813 W. Main S t . , Albemarle, N. C. Music
Joe F. Harris Rt. 1 , Hew London, N. C. U. S. History
Mattie B. Kelly Box 51, Hew London, 17. C. Health & P.E.
Emily R. Uood 621 E. Main S t . , Albemarle, I!. C. English
Johnny W. Chestnut Box i h h , Hew London, II. C. Social Stu.
Palmer M. Dulin 32 Henderson S t . , Badin, II. C. Math
Georgette L. Bower Rt. 1, Box 86 , Albemarle, II. C. English
Mary G. Bundy P. 0. Box lU, Misenheimer, N. C. English
Dorothy F. Glenn Box 675, Badin, H. C. French
Latin
Betty V7. Hatley Rt. 2, New London, II. C. Math
Joe D. Kelly Hew London, II. C. Biology & P.l
Linda B. Hunt 6l0 Coble Ave., Albemarle, H. C. Social Stu.
Everette W. Finney 2506 S. Cannon Ave., Kann., H. C. English
French
Mary F. Hodges General Delivery, Hew London, N. C. English
Janes D. Mills Rt. 2, Box 2 ' j h , New London, N. C. Algebra
Science
Robert II. Jeffrey Badin, II. C. Physics, P.E.
Chemistry
Janes W. Sanges UCo E. Cannon Ave., Albemarle, H.C. Math
Bobby W. Carter Concord, H. C. English
Spanish
Faye Y. Fisher P. 0. Box 308, Badin, II. C. D. E.
Phillip E. Hancock Rt. 3, Box 85 , Albemarle, H. C. Trade & Ind.
Richard Koontz Box 125* Hew London, H. C. Agr.
Carol A. Buchanan 229 Vlilson S t . , Albemarle, N. C. Home Ec.
Rosemary K. Harwood 2UU Concord Rd. , Albemarle, II. C. Home Ec.
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North Stanly High School Continued
Name Address Grade or Subject
Teaching
Martha Rogers New London, N. C. Guidance
Janes Lovett
Norwood School, Norwood, N.
Martin L. Coggin, Prin.
312 E. South S t . , Albemarle, ft. C.
C ., GRU-3126
Norwood, N. C.
Industrial Art
Barbara S, Lambert 506 Wesley Heights Drive,
Albemarle, II. C.
Music Sc Lib.
Robert S. Sims Norwood, II. C. 8
Genna R. Norwood Norwood, N. C, 8
Joan M. Headley Box 365 , Vadesboro, N. C. 8
Pauline M. Vick Rt. 1, Norwood, N. C. 7
Virginia D. Efird Rt. 1, Albemarle, N. C. 7
Melvin G. Poplin Rt, 2, Norwood, N. C. 7
Frances M. Curphey Box 753* Badin, N, C. 6
Oleta C. Norwood Norwood, N. C. 6
Elizabeth R. Bowers Rt. 2, Box 55^* Norwood, N. C. 6
Margie V. Farmer Box 82, Norwood, K. C. 5
Daisey K. Lowder Box 51, Norwood, N. C. 5
Dorthas M. Leitch P. 0. Box llUU, Albemarle, ft. C. k
Irene B. McNeill Box U76 , Norwood, N. C. h
Tyna C. Bracknell 8lU N. 11th S t . , Albemarle, N. C. b
Miriam J. Sims Norwood, N. C. 3
Albertine Lentz Norwood, IT. C. 3
Suzanne Swindell 325 N. 1st S t . , Albemarle, N. C. 3
Frances R. Muilaney Rt. 1 , Box 325, New London, ft. C. 2
Pearl S. Lanier Box 322, Norwood, ft. C. 2
Carolyn L. Hathcock Box 287, Norwood, ft. C. 2
Lelia C. Skidmore Box 513, Norwood, IT. C. 1
Mamie H. Lentz Norwood, ft. C. 1
Margaret P. Skidmore Norwood, N. C. 1
Minnie L. Dennis Rt. 2 , Norwood, ft. C. Sp. Edu.
Billy C. Hutchinson
Oakboro School, Oakboro, N.
Ralph C. Cole, Prin.
Box 16U, Norwood, II. C.
C ., HU5-3211
Oakboro, N. C.
Sp. Edu.
Edward P. Stewart Box 272, Oakboro, II. C. 8
Elberta L. Ragsdale 202 S. Uth S t . , Albemarle, ft. C. 8
Margaret \J. Burleson Rt. 3, Box 891*, Albemarle, ft. C. 7
William K. L ittle Rt. 2 , Stanfield, N. C. 7
Claudette B, Love Oakboro, N. C. 6
Peggy B. Murdock Rt. 1, Stanfield, N. C. 6
Lucy G. Thomas Rt. 1, Oakboro, N. C. 5
Ruth H. Whitley
Peggy L. Burris
Jean H. Huneycutt
Mae W. Brooks
Flora T. Parker
Louise E. Cowan
Pfeiffer College, flisenheimer, ft.
Rt. U, Albemarle, N. C.
Rt. U, Albemarle, K. C.
Oakboro, IT. C.
Rt. 2, Polkton, ft. C.
Oakboro, II. C.
C. 5
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Oakboro School Continued
Name Address Grade or Subject
Teaching
Altha H. Hatley P. 0. Box 68, Oakboro, N. C. 2
Juanita S. Johnston Rt. U, Albemarle, N. C. 1
Jeanette E. Whitley Rt. 1 , Oakboro, N. C. 1
Richfield School, Richfield, II. C ., K03-3211
C. P, Misenheiraer, Prin. Richfield, N. C. 8
George E. Arnold % Richfield School 8
Ida L. Jeffrey Badin, U. C. 7
Mary A. Fisher P. 0. Box 121, Richfield, II. C. 6
Rose L. Ritchie P. 0. Box 157, Richfield, II. C. 5
Ann B. Martin Richfield, N. C. k
Freeman JJ. Corson Box 651, Richfield, II. C. 3
Susan J. Davis P. 0. Box 122, Pfeiffer College
Misenheimer, N. C.
2
Ida F. Kyles Richfield, N. C. 1
Ridgecrest School, Route 1, Stanfield, 1?. C. HU5-3825
William K. Rudolph, Prin. Rt. 1, Stanfield, II. C. 8
Mildred L . Carpenter Rt. 1, Oakboro, N. C. 7
Naomi B. Miller Rt. 1, R ichfield , N. C. 5 & 6
Minnie E. Barbee Rt. 1, Stanfield, N. C. h & 5
Virginia C. Rinehardt Rt. 1, Concord, II. C. 2 & 3
Jessie V. Lambert Rt. 1, Stanfield, N. C. 1 & 2
South Oakboro School, Oakboro. N. C. . HU5-3711
Henry P. Eaton, Prin. Oakboro, II. C. 5 & 6
Maude P. Asbury Rt. 1, Box Ull, Midland, IJ. C. 7 & 8
Edrena D. Turner P. 0. Box 65, Granite Quarry, N. C. 3 & k
Claudette S. Gathers 316 Elizabeth Ave. , Albemarle, II. C. 1 & 2
South Stanly High School, Route 1, Norwood, ii. C ., GRU-3155
B i l l y J. N i x , P r i n . R t . 1 , N o r w o o d , N . C .
B e t t y D . T e s h R . F . D . 1 , N o r w o o d , N . C . E n g l i s h , A r t
J o u r n a l i s m
J u l i a T . F i n l e y P . 0 . B ox U92, N o r w o o d , N . C . E n g l i s h ,
F r e n c h
G e o r g i a M . Amos 7 0 S E a s t S t . , A l b e m a r l e , N . C . E n g l i s h ,
H e a lt h & P .E
S a m u e l L . T e s h , III
N e l l H . T e e t e r
J u d i B . K im r e y
W ilm a M. M o r to n
M i ld r e d M. A r c h e r
R t . 1 , IJorw ood , N . C .
Box 7 , O a k b o r o , II. C .
B ox 16, N o r w o o d , N . C.
2 2 7 N . U th S t . , A l b e m a r l e , N . C .
1U 07 R o s s D r . , A l b e m a r l e , N . C .
B i o l o g y & P .
L i b r a r i a n
E n g l i s h
M ath
P h y s i c s ,
M ath
K a t h e r i n e S . C r u t c h f i e l d 5 1 8 M c G i l l D r . , A l b e m a r l e , N - C . C om m ercia l.
193a
194a
List o f All Teachers 1965-66
(See Opposite) SSir’
TEACHER DIRECTORY
Stanly Stanly High School Continued
D - l l
Page 6
Name Address Grade or Subject
Teaching
G. Ernest Hatley, Jr. Albemarle, N. C. Social Stu.
Harvey P. Brooks Whitley S t . , Norwood, IT. C. Health & P.E
Wayne Moore Norwood, K. C. History,
Spanish
Edith L. Ivey Box U86, Norwood, N. C. Commercial
James A. Cameron, Jr. Rt. 2 , Norwood, IT. C. Social Stu.
Eugenia R. Ball 1018 Roanoke Ave., Charlotte, N.C. English
Josephine K. Avett Box 566, Norwood, N. C. English,
Reading
Larry A. Sides P. 0. Box 76 , Stanfield, IT. C. Music
Linda L. Julian 201 S. Broome S t . , Albemarle, N.C. Chemistry,
Physical Sci
Douglas R. Squires 70U Coble Ave., Albemarle, N. C. Biology,
Physical Sci
Kenneth E. Forte 1023 Pee Dee Ave., Albemarle, N.C. Sp. Ed.
George W. Heafner Norwood, N. C. I . C. T. C.
Rebecca S. Haynan Norwood, N. C. I . V.
George R. Wagoner Rt. 1, Mt. Pleasant, II. C. T. & I .
Abe Marion Rt. 2 , Norwood , IT. C. Voc. Agr.
Larry W. Mabry Rt. 1 , Box 191M, Albemarle, N.C. Voc. Agr.
Joyce W. Nance Rt. 1 , Box 220, Stanfield, N. C. Home Ec.
Carole B. Huneycutt Rt. 2 , New London, IT. C. Home Ec.
Aubrey R. Flynt Norwood, N. C. Guidance
William E. Frye 1 2 3 N. U th S t . , A l b e m a r l e , IT. C . I n d . A r t s
Stanfield School. Stanfield, IT. C ., 888-2361
L. P. Beck, Prin. Stanfield, N. C.
Everett E. Hatley Stanfield, N . C. 0
Joyce H. Holt 1206 Pine S t . , Albemarle, II. C. 7
Henry C. Bowers Rt. 1 , New London, IT. C. 6
Thelma T. Beck Stanfield, H. C. 5
Zell R. Moss Stanfield, IT. C. 5
Sallie H. Bowers Rt. 1 , New London, N. C. h
Jean A. Efird 115 Wilson S t . , Albemarle, N. C. 3
Elaine H. Orzechowski P. 0. Box 1066, Albemarle, N. C. 2 & 3
Ruth H. Blair Stanfield, II. C. 2
L illie H. Love Rt. 2 , Stanfield, N . C. 1 & 2
West Badin School, Badin, IT. C. , HA2-3288
* Glover L. Hines, Prin.
* Robert S. Adams
* Sallie S. Bowers
* Susie H. Martin
* Jacob B. Davis
* Ruth J. Kelly
* Ella K. L ittle
* Bertha L. Hines
Badin, N. C.
P. 0. Box 185, New London,
Rt. 1, New London, N. C.
Box U2, Badin, N. C.
P. 0. Box 1095, Albemarle,
Rt. 2, New London, N. C.
P. 0. Box 6 3 , Ansonville,
P. 0. Box 367, Badin, N. C
II. C . S c i e n c e
H a th
E n g l i s h
N . C . 8
7
N . C . 6
• 5
195a
196a
List o f A ll Teachers 1965
(See Opposite)
TEACHER DIRECTORY Page 7
West Badin School Continued
Name
# M&rgaree 0. Daye
# Joyce B. McMehan
# Placidia B. Hinnant
« Armonia H. Taylor
# Mary A. Harrison
# L illie T. Graham
# Theodore Hinnant
West Stanly High School. Route
Robert L. Garmon, Prin.
Linda S. Huneycutt
Mary C. Plumer
Pansy E. Morton
Jean L. Grantham
Margaret Stewart
Margaret W. Coble
Leo Hatley
Thomas A. Rogers
Joe L. Smith
Tommie C. Staton
Carolyn J. Williams
Dona G. HeSwain
Mary R. Bennett
Judge W. Morgan, Jr.
Bryte L. Efird
Henrietta E. Carpenter
Geraldine D. Holbrooks
Gene L. Whitesides
Robert A. Blalock
Richard H. Wright
Lucy B. Hunt
Minnie C. Boling
Lee Boyce Caudle
Bernice A. Busch
Claud F. Henkel
Lawrence R. Eller
Helen W. Thompson
Lois R. Springer
Jerry W. Crayton, Sr.
Dillon E. Whitley
Dorothy T. Smith
Douglas D. Case
Address
Rt. 2 , New London, II. C.
% Mr. Tete Wood, Badin, II. C.
P. 0. Box 191, Badin, N. C.
Box 83, Badin, N. C.
918 Arnold St. , Albemarle, 2i. C.
31^ Lincoln S t . , Badin, N. C.
P. 0. Box 191, Badin, II. C.
, Oakboro. II. C .. HU5-3012
Rt. 1 , Oakboro, N. C.
Rt. k, Albemarle, N. C.
116 Greenview, Concord, H. C.
Rt. 1, Oakboro, II. C.
Rt. 1 , Box 8U1-E, Oakboro, K. C.
Box 272, Oakboro, N. C.
Box 2k5, Oakboro, II. C.
Rt. 1 , New London, II. C.
Rt. 1 , Oakboro, II. C.
Box 85k, Oakboro, II. C.
1610 W. Park Ave., Albemarle, N.
Rt. 1 , Midland, II. C.
Rt. k, Albemarle, II. C.
910 N. loth S t . , Albemarle, II.C.
Rt. 1 , Box 6 l , Oakboro, II. C.
Rt. 2 , Stanfield, II. C.
117 S. H ill S t . , Albemarle, II.C.
Box 103, Stanfield, II. C.
Rt. 1 , Stanfield, II. C.
Rt. 1 , 3ox 355, Norwood, N. C.
3317 Winterfield Road,
Charlotte, N. C.
Oakboro, II. C.
731 S. 5th S t . , Albemarle, N.C.
P. 0. Box 1, Richfield, N. C.
Locust, N. C.
Box 6 3 , Stanfield, II. C.
21k N. 2nd S t . , Albemarle, N. C.
Rt. k, Albemarle, II. C.
219 W. Drive, Albemarle, N. C.
Rt. 1, Stanfield, II. C.
Rt. 1 , Box 220-A, Oakboro-, IU C-
P. 0. Box 293, Oakboro, N. C.
Box 935, Badin, 13. C.
Grade or Subject
Teaching
k
3
2
1
Sp. Edu.
Heme Ec.
T. & I .
Commercial
English,
Biology
Physical Edu.
English
Commercial
Librarian
Math
U.S. History
Physics,
Chemistry
. World History
French & Eng.
Civics
Eng. ,
Speech,
Drama
Math
Commercial
English
English,
Journalism
Math
Phy. Sci.
Music
English
Biology
Health & P.E.
Eng. & Reading
Voc. Agr.
Voc. Agr.
Home Ec.
Home Ec.
Motor Mech.
Bricklaying
C o s m e t o lo g y
D. E.
197a
198a
List of All Teachers 1965-66
(See Opposite) filSif5
TEACHER DIRECTORY
D-13
Page 8
West Stanly High School
Maine
Tom A. Morgan
Mildred C. Cooper
Continued
Address
Rt„ 1 , Box 6 l , Oakboro, II.
Box 787, Albemarle, N. C.
Grade or Subject
Teaching
Ind. Arts
Guidance
199a
200a
Letter of Luther A. Adams to Agricultural and
Technical College of Greensboro
April 30, 1965
The Agricultural and Technical
College of North Carolina
Greensboro, North Carolina
Dear Sir:
This is to certify that Mrs. Audrey G. Wall who is
presently teaching at the Lake View Elementary School,
Norwood, North Carolina expects to he retained in her
position in the coming school year.
However, due to implications of the Civil Rights Act
of 1964 and the pending clarification of teacher employ
ment practices in North Carolina, the signing of a contract
is not permissible at this time.
With kindest regards, I am
Cordially yours,
LAA :njl
Luther A. Adams
Superintendent
201a
M inu tes of th e S tan ly C ounty B oard of E ducation in
R egular S ession on M onday, J u n e 7, 1965 at
9:30 A .M . in th e B oard R oom
The Stanly County Board of Education met on the
above date. The meeting was called to order by the
Chairman, Mr. Reece McSwain. Members present: Mr.
Robert E. Young, Mr. Robert E. Lowder, Mr. Eugene
Pickier, and Assistant Superintendent Oliven T. Cowan
and Superintendent Luther A. Adams. Members absent:
Mr. Claude Teeter.
1. Mr. Norman Maples, Principal of the Locust Ele
mentary School, appeared briefly before the Board and
explained the purpose of his visit. Mr. Maples, seeking
relief for principals who also serve as full-time teachers,
explained,. in a splendid fashion, the disadvantages of a
school program organized in such a manner. He highly
recommended that the Board of Education attempt to
relieve this type of situation in the County Schools.
2. The minutes of May 3, May 12, May 13, and May 25,
1965 were read and approved.
3. The Superintendent reported, for information only,
that a tentative allotment for Driver Education for 1965-66
in the amount of $12,739.49 had been received. These funds
come from the one dollar additional automobile tag tax
and is allocated to the various City and County Admin
istrative Units on the basis of high school enrollment for
the preceding year, multiplied by 5.9061149.
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
202a
The Superintendent reported further that the General
Assembly had made certain changes in the laws relating
to Driver Education which may effect substantially the
operation of our local program. Only meager information
is available at this time, hut three (3) significant changes
were quite obvious. They are: (1) Driver Education shall
he made available to all physically and mentally qualified
persons of provisional license age, including public school
students, non public school students, and out-of-school
youth under eighteen years of age. (2) the public schools
are now solely responsible for driver education for per
sons in the category specified above and are required to
make the course available. (3) Completion of the course
provided by this Legislation is a pre-requisite to securing
a driver’s license before age eighteen.
It is quite obvious the new regulations will impose a
great hardship and additional burden upon the public
schools. It is expected that the General Assembly will
appropriate additional funds to assist in implementing
this new approach to driver education in the public schools.
4. On recommendation of the Superintendent and on
motion by Mr. Pickier and seconded by Mr. Lowder, the
Board approved the following contracts for the school year
1965-66. (See attached list)
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
C o n t b a c t s A ppk oved— J u n e 7, 1965
County-wide—
Drivers Education
Wayne Davis Burris
Kenneth R. Brown
County-wide—
Special Education
Adelaide Y. McNeill
Elizabeth W. Adams
203a
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
Millingport
Virgie Lee Harward
Whitley
Vina H. Elder
Evelyn W. Allred
Irene T. Peek
Marvin H. Rouse
Mary Ann Dickson Hauss
Brenda Shoe Stiller
Richfield
Ida Fink Kyles
Freeman M. Corson
Ann Bryson Martin
Rose L. Ritchie
Mary Ann Fisher
Ida L. Jeffrey
New London
Mirle H. Carriker
Gladys I. Fesperman
Thomas W. Ward
Mary W. Taylor
Christine M. Clayton
Margaret B. Ivey
Callie M. Goodman
Mary W. Lyerly
Elizabeth C. Harward
Margaret M. Turner
Mary S. Chestnut
Helen M. Small
Esther B. Gaddy
Joseph Keith Frick
Lucile H. Harris
Badin
Josie Chrisco
Daisie W. Holmes
Peggy R. Ross
Jane Lefko Bell
Pauline B. Abernethy
Margaret R. Dunlap
Rachel Harris Lowder
Vernon E. Lentz
Norwood
Irene B. McNeill
Albertine Lentz
Barbara S. Lambert
Pauline M. Vick
Virginia D. Efird
Robert S. Sims
Genna R. Norwood
Joan M. Headley
Melvin G. Poplin
Minnie L. Dennis
Elizabeth R. Bowers
Margie Virginia Farmer
Miriam J. Sims
Carolyn L. Hathcock
Margaret P. Skidmore
Daisy K. Lowder
Lelia C. Skidmore
Dorthas M. Leitch
Pearle Smith Lanier
Mamie H. Lentz
Frances R. Mullaney
204a
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
Norwood (con’t)
Oleta C. Norwood
Suzanne Swindell
Aquadale
Janice Rae Burris
Abernathy
Lottie Austin Houck
Elizabeth A. Horne
Kathryn Safrit Cameron
Gladys E. Ferrell
Donald K. Abernathy
Endy
Sue Smith Page
Betty B. Welch
Carolyn H. Burleson
Lillie R. Lisenby
Grace R. Speight
Horace H. Mabry
Wyatt McSwain
Oakboro
Juanita S. Johnston
Louise E. Cowan
Altha H. Hatley
Flora T. Parker
Mae W. Brooks
Jean H. Honeycutt
Peggy Lowder Burris
Jeanette E. Whitley
Oakboro (con’t)
Lucy G. Thomas
William Keith Little
Charlotte Ross Hartsell
Edward P. Stewart
Stanfield
Everett Edward Hatley
Henry C. Bowers
Zell R. Moss
Thelma T. Beck
Sallie H. Bowers
Lillie Hinson Love
Ruth H. Blair
Jean Alice Efird
Ridgecrest
Jessie Virginia Lambert
Minnie E. Barbee
Naomi B. Miller
Virginia C. Rinehardt
Mildred Lucille Carpente
Locust
Olive B. Biggers
Faye R. Skidmore
James D. Kennedy
Margaret Estes Shipton
Inez Shinn Helms
Odessa L. Hatley
Angeline Hilton Lane
205a
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
Locust (con’t)
Rena V. Efird
Vernon Hunsueker, Jr.
Verna R. Wilson
North Stanly
Geraldine R. Chrisco
Joe Dewitt Kelly
Mattie B. Kelly
Jack D. Fesperman
Joe Frank Harris
Carol A. Buchanan
Robert N. Jeffrey
Lonnie R. Chandler
Foy Gene Powell
James W. Sanges
Faye Young Fisher
Rosemary K. Harwood
Phillip E. Hancock
James Lovett
Palmer McCullough Dulin
Martha R. Rogers
Linda Barnes Hunt
Johnny W. Chestnut
Nelson P. Burr
Richard H. Koontz
Suzanne B. Smith
Betty W. Hatley
Georgette L. Bowers
Jo Anne J. Hildreth
South Stanly
Douglas R. Squires
Harvey P. Brooks
A1 Varo Garcia
Larry A. Sides
Josephine K. Avett
Katherine S. Crutchfield
Edith L. Ivey
James A. Cameron, Jr.
William E. Frye
Nell H. Teeter
Eugenia R. Ball
Wayne Moore
Julia T. Finley
Samuel L. Tesh, III
Gurney E. Hatley, Jr.
Wilma M. Morton
Linda E. Julian
B. H. Ratliff
Mildred M. Archer
Georgia M. Amos
Betty D. Tesh
Aubrey R. Flynt
Rebecca S. Hayman
George R. Wagoner
Larry W. Mabry
Abe Marion
Joyce W. Nance
Carole B. Huneycutt
206a
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
West Stanly
Mildred C. Cooper
Geraldine B. Holbrooks
Thomas A. Rogers
Billy W. Hinson
Elberta L. Ragsdale
Tommie C. Staton
Carolyn J. Williams
Jean L. Grantham
Linda S. Huneycutt
Margaret Stewart
Mary R. Bennett
Margaret W. Coble
Dona G. McSwain
Pansy E. Morton
Henrietta Carpenter
Bernice A. Bnsch
Minnie Cleo Elmore
Joe L. Smith
Leo Hatley
Lee B. Caudle
Gene L. Whitesides
Lucy Brooks Hunt
Donald H. Price
Bryte L. Efird
Trina J. Holt
Claude F. Henkel
Lawrence Raymond Eller
Helen Whitlock Thompson
Lois R. Springer
Dillon E. Whitley
Dorothy T. Smith
Jerry W. Crayton
West Badin
Melvin L. Wall
Joyce B. McMehan
Margaree Owens
Theodore Hinnant
Mary A. Harrison
Susie H. Martin
Ruth J. Kelly
Jacob B. Davis
Robert S. Adams
Bertha L. Hines
Armonia H. Taylor
Placidia B. Hinnant
Ophelia S. Glenn
Lillie Tyson Graham
Lake View and West Badin
Viola P. Nichols
(librarian)
Lake View
Mary S. Winfield
Audrey G. Wall
Geraldine Robinson Taylor
Melvin Joe Rush
Wanda W. Cogdell
Fannie F. Coley
South Oakboro
Maude P. Asbury
Phyllis M. Martin
Patricia W. Jeffers
207a
In the same motion, on recommendation of the Milling-
port School Committee the Board approved the contract
of Mrs. Lewis Peck and requested the Superintendent to
inform the State Board of Education that she not be
mandatorily retired, but that she be permitted to teach one
year beyond the mandatory age. The motion passed.
5. On recommendation of the Superintendent and on
motion by Mr. Pickier and seconded by Mr. Lowder, the
Board approved the use of the several school facilities
of the County for Adult Education Program sponsored by
the Central Piedmont Community College. Authorization
to use the buildings would be subject to the consent and
approval of the Superintendent. The motion passed.
6. The Superintendent reported to the Board, for in
formation only, that the itinerant program for the Excep
tionally Talented children served a total of nine elemen
tary schools, comprised of sixteen classes, with a total of
177 students enrolled. This is the voluntary program in
which students with IQ’s of 120 or more are given an
enriched curriculum beyond that obtainable in the normal
classroom program.
7. Mr. Young requested that a letter of appreciation
and recognition be addressed to Mr. Robert Cagle, Chair
man, Trustee of Smith Education Fund, Ansonville, North
Carolina and mailed to Mrs. Tom Griffin, Ansonville, North
Carolina expressing appreciation of the Board for the
spendid work being done for students of Stanly County,
especially those in the South Stanly area.
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
208a
8. On recommendation of the Superintendent and on
motion by Mr. Lowder and seconded by Mr. Young, the
Board employed the firm of Mr. Alfred C. Starling, Certi
fied Public Accountant, to conduct the annual audit for
the fiscal year ending June 30, 1965 of the several schools
of the Stanly County Administrative Unit and the Stanly
County Board of Education. Audit to include all funds,
in the general fund and the cafeteria fund. The motion
passed.
9. The properly signed approval and certification of the
State Superintendent of Public Instruction indicating the
formal approval of the re-election of the Superintendent
for the 1965-66 biennium by the State Board of Educa
tion was presented to the Board for information.
10. The Superintendent indicated that the comprehen
sive school improvement project sponsored in cooperation
with Pfeiffer College, was rejected by the State Depart
ment of Public Instruction. It is expected that this plan
will be submitted for inclusion in the next allocation of
projects.
11. On recommendation of the Superintendent and on
motion by Mr. Lowder and seconded by Mr. Pickier the
Board established a fixed pay day for teachers and prin
cipals for the school year 1965-66. All teachers and
principals will be paid their first monthly voucher on
September 25, 1965 and on the twenty-fifth day of each
succeeding calendar month during the school term 1965-66,
except that the final payment shall be made when all re
quirements of this Board have been met. The motion
passed.
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
209a
12. On motion by Mr. Pickier and seconded by Mr.
Lowder the Board adopted a resolution for providing for
the re-sale of school property. The Resolution is made a
part of these minutes and hereby follows. The motion
passed.
13. The Superintendent read a letter of thanks and
appreciation from Mr. & Mrs. Quinton Austin, parents of
Karen Austin, in which she graciously expressed her
heartfelt endorsement of the program for the Exception
ally Talented. It was a very praiseworthy letter and duly
noted by the Board.
14. On recommendation of the Superintendent and on
motion by Mr. Lowder and seconded by Mr. Young, the
Board completely revised the Assurance of Compliance
Plan, under provisions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964,
in keeping with the recommendations and suggestions of
Mr. Robert Janover, Attorney for the Department of
Health, Education and Welfare, Washington, D. C. Al
though it is impossible to predict if this revised plan will
be approved it is felt that it will more nearly meet the
requirements and guidelines as established by the Depart
ment of Health, Education and Welfare for Units seeking
to comply. The motion passed.
15. The Board adjourned for lunch and reconvened at
2 :30 P. M. to meet with the Board of County Commis
sioners of Stanly County. The proposed tentative Capital
Outlay and Current Expense budget, outlining the many
needs of the Stanly County Schools, was presented to
the Board of County Commissioners at the 2 :30 P. M.
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
210a
meeting. Following presentation of the proposed tentative
budget for 1965-66 the Board adjourned for the day.
There being no further business to come before the
Board the meeting adjourned at approximately 4:00 P. M.
R e s ig n a t io n s to B e A ppr o v e d— J u l y 7, 1965
Millingport
Bobby G. Owens, Principal
New London
Thomas William Ward
West Stanly
Donald H. Price
Elberta L. Ragsdale released from West Stanly High
School due to decrease in teacher allotment.
C ontracts to B e A pproved— J u ly 7, 1965
Millingport Badin
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
James Gary Mauldin Mary B. Lewis
Richfield
Susan J. Davis
Norwood
Tyna C. Bracknell
New London
Connie T. Sharpe
Aquadale
Edith P. Thompson
Allene Hutto Winfree
Thomas William Ward
211a
Minutes of Stanly County Board of Education,
June 7, 1965 and July 7, 1965
Oakboro
Margaret Bock Helms
Locust
Nellie Johnson Tew
North Stanly
Brenda Paulette Duke
Mary Frances Hodges
West Stanly
Tom A. Morgan
Richard Henry Wright
Robert A. Blalock
South Stanly
Judy B. Kimrey
West Badin
Fredrick Welborne
212a
Form of Contract for Instructional Service
CONTRACT FOR INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICE
N o r t h C a r o l in a P u b l ic S c h o o ls
S t a t e of N o r t h C a r o l in a , J
.......................................... C o u n t y ^
T h is A g r e e m e n t entered into between the Board of
Education of the ............................ School Administrative
Unit and......................................................, who now holds,
(Name as it appears on back of certificate)
or is entitled to hold, a North Carolina................................
(Kind of certificate)
Certificate, No................ , now in force, in accordance with
the provisions of the school law applicable thereto, which
are hereby made a part of this contract, W it n e s s e t h :
That said teacher or principal, having been duly elected
to teach or to perform services in the public schools of
said administrative unit for the school term 19...... -19.......
—unexpired part of the 19...... -19....... school term (strike
out one),—agrees to discharge faithfully all the duties
imposed on teachers and principals by the Laws of North
Carolina and the rules and regulations of the Board of
Education of said administrative unit.
In consideration of this agreement, said Board of Ed
ucation promises to pay the above-named person for ser
vices rendered during the life of this contract the sum to
which he is entitled according to the State Salary Schedule
from State funds plus the local supplement, if any, ap
plicable thereto, subject to the allotment of teachers by
the State Board of Education, and subject to the condi
tion that the amount paid from State funds shall be
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Form of Contract for Instructional Service
within the allotment of funds made to said administrative
unit for instructional salaries.
That said Board of Education has authorized, in a reg
ular or in a called meeting, its Secretary to execute this
contract. Assignments will be made by the superintendent
of schools.
Special conditions: ...........................................................
................................................................Board of Education
Teacher or Principal
.......................... , 19....... B y .............................. , Secretary
NOTE: This form should be used annually in the employment of teachers and
principals. A copy of this contract should be kept on file in the office
of the superintendent and a copy furnished the teacher.
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Letter of Robert E. McLendon to Audrey G. Wall
LAKE VIEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
p. o. box 696
N orwood, N orth Carolina 28128
July 16, 1965
R. E. M cL endon
PRINCIPAL
Mrs. Audrey G. Wall
Box 585
Albemarle, North Carolina 28001
Dear Mrs. Wall:
All Stanly County teacher contracts were held up pend
ing teacher allotment for the 1965-66 school year. When
this allotment was received, Lakeview lost three teachers.
And, this letter is to inform you that you have been
selected as one of the three teachers, who will not receive
a contract at this time.
If I can be of any help to you in any way, please let
me know.
Yours truly,
/ s / R obert E. M cL endon
Robert E. McLendon
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Letter of Robert E. McLendon to Audrey G. Wall
N orth Carolina
Stanly County
I, Luther A. Adams, do hereby certify the following:
1. That I am now and was on April 15, 1966, Super
intendent of Schools of Stanly County and Secretary of
The Stanly County Board of Education, Albemarle, N. C.
2. That a special called meeting of The Stanly County
Board of Education was duly held on April 15, 1966, and
minutes of said meeting have been duly recorded in the
Minute Book kept by me for the purpose of recording the
minutes of the meetings of said Board.
3. That I have compared the attached extract with
said minutes so recorded, and said extract is a true copy
of said minutes and of the whole thereof, insofar as said
minutes relate to the matters referred to in said extract.
4. That said minutes correctly state the time when said
meeting was convened, the place where said meeting was
held, and the members of said Board who attended said
meeting.
In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, this
18th day of April, 1966.
/ s / L uther A . A dams
Secretary
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M in u t e s of M e e t in g o f t h e S t a n l y C o u n t y
B oard of E d u c a t io n , Friday, April 15, 1966
The Stanly County Board of Education met in special
called session on April 15, 1966 at 9 :30 A. M. at the office
of the Board, 330 North First Street, Albemarle, N. C.
All members of the Board, Chairman, Reece B. McSwain,
Robert E. Young, Robert E. Lowder, Claude Teeter, and
Eugene Pickier, were present. Also present at said meet
ing were Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent
of the public schools of the County, Mr. Luther A. Adams
and Mr. Oliven T. Cowan.
The meeting was presided over by the Chairman, and
Superintendent Adams, Secretary to the Board, took the
minutes of the meeting.
* * * * *
Luther A. Adams presented to the Board the following
Resolution:
“ W h e r e a s , The Stanly County Board of Education is a
body politic and the authority under the laws of the State
of North Carolina charged with the responsibility of the
operation of the public schools in the Stanly County Ad
ministrative Unit, Stanly County, North Carolina, and
W h e r e a s , said Board is required by law to hire and
assign all personnel employed in the operation of said
schools, and
W h e r e a s , said Board wishes to adopt the plan and es
tablish the policy effective the school year 1966-67 within
the requirements of law and in the discharge of its duties
relating to employment and assignment of all personnel
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of the Stanly County Administrative Unit engaged in
the operation or the public schools of said Administrative
Unit and to promulgate rules and to establish criteria for
the lawful administration of such plan and policy.
Now, t h e r e f o r e , effective the school year 1966-67, The
Stanly County Board of Education declares and resolves
that the plan and policy of said Board in hiring, appoint
ing, and assigning personnel in the public schools of the
Stanly County Administrative Unit, and the provisions
for the execution and administration thereof, are as fol
lows :
S t a t e m e n t o f P o l ic y
The Stanly County Board of Education recognizes its
responsibility under law to provide the best possible ed
ucation for each child in its school system, regardless of
race, color, or national origin, and concludes that the
employment of the best qualified individuals available for
any job, position, or vacancy that exists in said school
system provides the best and greatest assurance for the
effective and expeditious accomplishment of this objective.
All available information shall be fairly evaluated and
judged without discrimination as to the employment of
each individual.
Staff and professional personnel shall be employed
solely on the basis of competence, training, experience,
and personal qualification, and shall be assigned to and
within the schools of the Administrative Unit without
regard to race, color, or national origin.
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M e c h a n ic s in t h e A d m in is t r a t io n a n d E x e c u t io n
o f t h e P o l ic y a n d t h e P l a n
1. The County Superintendent shall recommend and
The Board of Education shall elect and appoint principals
of the several schools in said Administrative Unit. The
following form will be used by the Superintendent for
officially recommending principals.
S u p e r in t e n d e n t ’ s R e c o m m e n d a t io n of P r in c ip a l
(For Use by Superintendent in Recommending
Principal)
In compliance with school law, I, as superintendent
of the schools of Stanly County hereby recommend
.................................. for the position of principal of
................................ school for the school term 19........ -
19..... —unexpired part of the 19........-19....... school
term (strike out one).
Date.................., 19........ Signed.............................
Superintendent
2. The principal of the several schools in said Admin
istrative Unit shall recommend and The Board of Educa
tion shall elect and appoint all teachers employed in said
school system. The principal shall familiarize himself
with the application and supporting data and information
of each applicant for a teaching position in his school.
No teaching contract shall be valid until approved and
signed by the Superintendent. The following form will be
used by the principals in officially recommending teachers.
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P r in c ip a l ’ s R e c o m m e n d a t io n
(For Use by Principal in Recommending Teachers)
In compliance with school law, I, as principal of
the .................................. school, hereby recommend
................................ for the position of .......................
teacher in the Stanly County Schools, for the school
term 19...... -19........
Date................. , 19..... Signed................................
Principal
3. The principals of the respective schools shall recom
mend and The Board of Education shall elect and appoint
all auxiliary personnel of the respective schools. No elec
tion or appointment of any auxiliary personnel shall be
valid unless and until approved by the Superintendent
and The Board of Education.
4. If the principal fails to recommend the election and
appointment of teachers or auxiliary personnel within
the time required, The Board of Education shall imme
diately elect and appoint such teachers and auxiliary per
sonnel, and its action in this respect shall be final.
5. The Superintendent shall distribute and assign all
teachers and auxiliary personnel among the several schools
of the Administrative Unit, and he shall make such dis
tribution and assignment without regard to race, color,
or national origin.
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E m p l o y m e n t P r o c ed u re
The Board of Education adopts for use in the employ
ment procedure forms as follows:
1. Application Form
2. Reference Request
3. Teacher Interview Record
4. Guidelines For Teacher Interview
5. The Teacher Evaluation Data
6. Special Information Blank
7. Superintendent’s Recommendation of Principal
8. Principal’s Recommendation of Teacher
A p p l ic a t io n p o r P o sit io n
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Please return to the above address, unless
otherwise instructed
Name as it appears on certificate.....................Date
Temporary Address ......................... Telephone No.
Permanent Address ......................... Telephone No.
Name of Husband or Wife .......................................
Position Desired—1st Choice................2nd Choice ...
P e r s o n a l D a t a
Date of Birth ... Age .... Sex .... Height .... Weight ....
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Married...... Husband or Wife Living........Divorced........
Separated...... Number of Children........Ages........Church
Affiliation .............. Approximate number of days missed
last year .......... General Reasons .......................................
Specify any Physical Handicaps .........................................
Describe any military service which might be of value
in considering your application.
E d u c a t io n a l T r a in in g
Name and Dates Degree or
Location of Attended Diploma
Institution Received
High School
Colleges
Summer Schools
Special
E d u c a t io n a l E x p e r ie n c e (List at least last three)
Grade or
Name of Subjects Extra-curricular
School Address Taught_________Dates___________Duties
National Teacher Examination Score ..........
Are you now under contract! .....If no, w hy.............
Do you have a contract for next year!.....If no, why
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Why did you leave your last position?................................
To what professional organizations do you belong?............
Did you receive a supplement?.....Amount per year...........
Type of N. C. Certificate ................... Rating ...................
Can you sing? ..... Play a piano? ..... Art? ..... What
activities and clubs do you prefer sponsoring?...... ............
To the best of your knowledge will you be physically and
mentally able to teach next year? ..............
R e f e r e n c e s— List at least three—Two or more in the ed
ucation field (If just graduating, list name of Supervisor
of Student Teaching)
n a m e a ddress p o s it io n
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15, 1966 and Resolution of Teacher Miring Policies
Use this space for any additional information you feel
that we should know (Hobbies, Travel, other work ex
perience, etc.)
(Signature)
R e f e r e n c e R e q u e st
...........................................has applied for a position in the
Stanly County Public Schools. You have been referred
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to as one acquinted with his/her work. Will you kindly
give your confidential appraisal of the applicant.
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(Please Check)__________Excellent Good Average Fair Poor
Character
Knowledge of Subject Matter
Presentation of Subject Matter
Personality
Fairness
Professional Attitude
Tact
Scholarship
Loyalty and Cooperation
Initiative
Classroom Discipline
Personal Appearance
Community Relationship
In what capacity have you known the applicant ? ...............
For how many years? ........ Would you employ the ap
plicant if you had a vacancy? ........ If an employee of
yours, why is applicant leaving? .......................................
.............. Other information that might be useful ..............
Date
Signature
Position .
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T e a c h e r I n t e r v ie w R ecord
I. Name of Applicant.............................. Date ..............
II. Rate the applicant on the various attributes listed by
using numbers 1 through 5 according to the following
scale: Excellent—1, Good—2, Average—3, Fair—4,
Poor—5.
CHARACTERISTIC RATING
1. Conversation:
A. English Usage .......
B. Tone of Voice .......
C. Pronunciation .......
D. Enunciation .......
E. Conversational Ability .......
F. Speech Mannerism .......
2. Appearance:
A. Appearance-Maturity .......
B. Appearance-Physical .......
C. Appearance-Dress .......
D. Physical Mannerisms .......
E. Poise .......
F. Emotional Stability .......
3. Professional Attitude Toward:
A. Organizations .......
B. Other Personnel ......
C. The Teaching Profession ......
D. Staff Meetings .......
E. Self Improvement .......
F. “Extra” Duties .......
G. Superiors .......
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CHAEACTEEISTIC EATING
4. General:
A. Educational Philosophy ......
B. Tactfulness .......
C. General Personality .......
D. Confidence .......
E. Interest in Children .......
III. Is applicant willing to teach in the following situa
tions? (Check)
Integrated ......
All White ......
All Colored ......
IV. Summary: (Any explanation or remark that will help
to appraise the applicant)
V. NTE Score ..........
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(Signature of Interviewer)
G u id e l in e s eoe T e a c h e e I n t e e v ie w
The Teacher Interview Record is designed to record
various characteristics of the applicant which are pertinent
to his consideration for a position. In order for the inter
viewer to make the best use of the interview close ob
servation is necessary, and often, specific questions should
be presented. A suggestive list of characteristics to look
for are as follows:
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1. C o n v e r s a t io n
A. English Usage: Range of word usage, Precise
statements, Proper sentence structure, Easy flow
of words
B. Tone of Voice: Harsh, Loud, Soft, Unusually high
or low, Irritating, Tiring, Pleasant, Speech im
pediment (lisp, stammer, etc.)
C. Pronunciation: Proper production of sounds in
a word, Placing of stress, Intonation, Blending
of syllables, Variants—are they due to geographic
location of residence
D. Enunciation: Clearness of combination of words
or phrases, Definite statement, Proclamation as
pect of speech, Consideration of variants
E. Conversational Ability: Sticks with the subject,
Wanders, Evades answering questions, Shifts sub
ject, Allows conversation to die or keeps it moving
smoothly, “Over-answers” questions
F. Speech Mannerism: Relaxed, Appears to be on
the defense, Courteous, Too many “pet-expres
sions”, Displays a lively interest, Facial and other
physical expressions blend pleasantly with speech
2. A p p e a r a n c e
A. Appearance-Maturity: Matured properly for age.
Unusually youthful, Unusually aged
B. Appearance-Physical: Posture, Scars, Crippled or
other physical handicap, Eyes abnormal—avoids
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looking at interviewer, Extremely ugly, Attractive,
Pleasant Facial expression
C. Appearance-Dress: Neatly dressed, Dress shows
good taste, Soiled clothing, Heavy make-up, “Loud”
perfume
D. Physical Mannerisms: Generally relaxed, Ner
vous, Too much shifting, Distracting habits such
as scratching and nose-picking, etc.
E. Poise: Generally well-balanced, Carriage of body
in standing, walking and sitting, Ease and dignity,
of manner
F. Emotional Stability: Evidence of stress or strain,
Expression of speech and thought unstable,
Overly-sensitive, Self-pit, Irrational, Radical
3. P r o f e s s io n a l A t t it u d e T ow ard
A. Organisations: General feeling toward profes
sional organizations, Willingness to: join—attend
meetings—support decisions, Sees no need for or
ganizations, Fights organizational causes
B. Other Personnel: Agrees with ethics of the pro
fession toward others, Willingness to accept aid
from others, General respect for fellow teachers,
Not envious of excellence in fellow workers
C. The Teaching Profession: Is teaching a career or
stepping-stone, Proud to be a teacher, Love for
teaching, Only in it for money, Desire to up-grade
the image of teachers
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D. Staff Meetings: Willingness to attend and con
tribute, Useless, Too long and boring, Has sug
gestions for improvement, Constructive or destruc
tive ideas
E. Self-Improvement: Finished with schooling, Will
ingness to improve, Attitude toward workshops
and additional schooling, Interest in job only, Ap
preciates suggestions for improvement, Profes
sional reading habits
F. Extra Duties: No teacher should have extra du
ties, Willingness to carry equal share, Willing
ness to do whatever is necessary to help the school
function smoothly
G. Superiors: Wants to be told every move, needs
leeway for individual initiative, Resents superiors,
Wants to be left alone, Respects and desires the
democratic processes
4. G e n e r a l
A. Educational Philosophy: Role of education in our
society, For whom, Paid by whom, What shall be
taught, Views or recent trends, Who should teach,
Curriculum, Organization
B. Tactfulness: Not offensive, Perception to say or
do that which is right with harmony, Sense of
touch, Friendly relations
C. General Personality: Extrovert, Introvert, Flam
boyant, “Magnetic”, Pleasantly acceptable, Highly
desirable, Humble, Self-centered
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D. Confidence: Somewhat afraid of position, Highly
confident, Too confident, Overly conceited with
respect to confidence, Needs to be encouraged
E. Interest in Children: Interest that leads to con
cern and understanding, Recognition of individ
uality, Thinks children should fit standards, Think
ing that leads to a rigid program for children,
Wants to satisfy the “needs” of children, Thinks
children should be “little” adults
T eacher E valuation Data
(To be used by the principal at the close of each year)
I. Name of Teacher .........................................................
School ................... ....................... Date .....................
Type of Certificate................. Class & Rating............
Current Teaching Assignment (check) Primary......
Grammar...... High School......
II. Rate the teacher on the characteristics listed using the
following scale: Excellent—1, Good—2, Average—3,
Fair—4, Poor—5
CHARACTERISTIC RATING
A. Presentation of Subjects ......
B. Knowledge of Subjects ......
C. Classroom Discipline ......
D. Professional Attitude ......
E. Fairness ......
P. Community Relations ......
G. Personality ......
H. Character .......
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I. Loyalty and Cooperation .......
J. Initiative .......
K. Love of Children .......
The evaluation should be based on classroom visits, stu
dent progress, reports by students, teachers, or parents,
conferences, and any other information pertaining to the
individual.
III. Prior to this evaluation, what have you done to help
improve the weaknesses indicated? (Detail below)
TV. List any remarks or explanations necessary to reveal
a true description of the teacher’s qualities:
V. Do you recommend this person for re-employment?
Yes ...... No ........ If no, explain
VI. Attach a summary of any conferences held with this
individual relating to any personal problem:
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(Signature of Principal)
S p e c ia l I n f o r m a t io n B l a n k
In order for us to prepare your vouchers for the com
ing year, it is necessary for us to have the information
asked for on this blank exactly as it is called for. Please
fill out the blank and give it to your principal without
delay.
If you are a woman and have married since your present
certificate was issued, it will be necessary for you to apply
for a new certificate. Please write to State Department
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of Public Instruction, Raleigh, North Carolina, for form
number 26.
Be sure to enter your Social Security number on the
attached W-4 Form. If you have not filed for a social
security number, please do so at once. Your name should
appear on your social security card exactly as it appears
on your certificate.
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15, 1966 and Resolution of Teacher Hiring Policies
Your Name—As it appears on certificate Spouse’s Name
Kind of Certificate ...............................................................
Serial number of certificate ..................................................
Number of years actual experience .....................................
Number of years experience on present certificate..............
Grade or subjects you will be teaching next school year......
County and school you taught in last year ...... ..................
If you did not teach last year give P la c e and Y eak of your
last experience.......................................................................
Last year’s monthly salary? (before deductions) ..............
If you have a High School Certificate, give subjects in
which it is issued
(i.e., French-English, etc.)
What College did you attend? ...............
Home address ............................................
Address while teaching ............................
Your telephone number ............................
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Are yon a member of Retirement System? .........................
If not, have you ever been a member of Retirement System?
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"What is your Retirement System Register Number ? ..........
Conclusion
The plan, policy, and criteria set forth herein is in
further implementation of The Board of Education’s school
desegregation plan prepared pursuant to the provisions of
the Civil Rights Act of 1964, submitted to and approved
by the United States Commissioner of Education June 5,
1965.”
Eugene Pickier moved the adoption of the Resolution.
The motion was seconded by Robert E. Lowder, and was
adopted by unanimous vote of the Board.
There being no further business, the meeting was ad
journed.
s / L uther A . A dams
Secretary
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G. L. Hines, having been first duly sworn, testified as
follows:
Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Would you state your name please? A. G. L. Hines.
Q. Are you presently employed by the Stanly County
Board of Education? A. I am.
Q. In what capacity? A. Principal of West Badin
School.
Q. How long have you been so employed? A. Nigh on
to 12 years.
Q. How many teachers did you have in that school
during the 1964-65 school year? A. We had 19.
Q. Is this a school with grades 1 through 12? A. It is.
Q. How many teachers did you have in the elementary
department? A. 11—there were 10.
Q. Did you consider your grades 7 through 9 as junior
high school or did you just consider it a grade? A. In
all of our reports our school is set up on the 8-4 plan.
Q. How many teachers did you have in the high school
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during the 1964-65 school year? A. We had 8. We must
have had 11 in the elementary school bcause we had a total
of 19 and had 8 in the high school so that made 11 in the
elementary school last year.
Q. Mr. Hines, on the average how many new teachers
did you hire each year? A. On the average we would
hire about 2. Very seldom more than two. We would
average about 2 a year.
Q. Would this be one in the elementary and one in the
high school or would it vary? A. It varied.
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Q. How many students did you have in the West Badin
school during the 1964-65 year? A. I don’t remember. I
have that information in the office. I can get it for you.
Q. Do you know presently the increase in students you
would have each year? Would you have an increase? Would
you have any increase in the number of students at West
Badin school each year or did it stay at the same number?
A. We have had a steady increase since 1954. In fact when
I began working in that school in ’54 there were only 15
teachers there and since that time there’s been a steady
and gradual increase in enrollment of the school and I
think it reached its peak last year in the 1964-65 year.
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We were anticipating for the 1965-66 year a decrease in the
elementary school because the war crowd was about out
of the elementary school and going to high school.
Q. You expected a decrease in the elementary school and
an increase in the high school? A. We expected one.
Q. Did you have a decrease in the elementary school en
rollment? A. We did.
Q. For the 1964-65 school year? A. We did.
Q. Do you know the number of students you have this
year as compared to last? A. I can get it for you.
Q. You don’t know offhand? A. No. The decrease we
expected came about because we had 52 students in the 8th
grade who were going to high school. We had only 27 com
ing into the 1st grade so we expected a decrease of about
25 students in the elementary school last year because of
graduation from elementary school.
Q. Since 1954 with the increase that you indicated you
had, did this necessitate the hiring of an additional teacher?
A. We had to hire teachers because of the increase in en
rollment.
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Q. Would that be each year? A. No, that’s all eleven
year span. We hired only four teachers in an eleven year
span.
Q. And this would be in addition to the number of teach
ers you had in 1954! In other words, you started off with
fifteen and have gone to nineteen! A. We went to nineteen
during the 1964-65 year.
Q. Mr. Hines, were the students assigned to West Badin
school, negro students! A. Yes.
Q. All negro students! A. Yes.
Q. Were the teachers assigned to West Badin school,
negro teachers! A. Yes.
Q. All negro teachers! A. All negro teachers.
Q. Mr. Hines, how many teachers do you have in the ele
mentary school for the 1965-66 school year at West Badin!
A. We have nine. One for each grade and one extra teacher-
in special education, so we have eight and one.
Q. How many do you have in the high school! A. We
have six.
Q. This represents, does it not, a decrease in the number
of teachers there of four! A. It does.
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Q. Were you not advised at the close of the 1964-65 school
year that your teacher allotment would be less for the
1965-66 school year! A. I wasn’t advised at the close of
the year.
Q. Were you advised during the summer! A. I was
advised during the summer.
Q. Who advised you that you would have fewer teachers!
A. The office of the superintendent.
Q. Were you advised of the number of teachers you would
have less than you had last year! A. I was.
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Q. How many were yon told yon would have for the next
school year! A. Fifteen and a half teachers.
Q. Were yon advised during the summer that yon would
have to release teachers to satisfy the allotment you would
have for the 1965-66 school year! A. I was advised that
the number would be less. It so happened that the four
people who were not to be re-instated either resigned or
retired before I advised them.
Q. You were to advise them though, that they would not
be back! A. I was not told to advise them they wouldn’t
be back. May I explain this! One of the teachers, an ele-
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mentary teacher, retired at the end of the year and, of
course, did not re-apply. Another elementary teacher at
the close of the year was told by me that I would not rec
ommend him to the 1965-66 year because his discipline in
the classroom was not very good. In the high school, one
of the teachers who is not with us this year, resigned at
the end of the year and did not seek re-employment because
she was pregnant at the time. The last teacher, before I
could tell him or write to him and tell him that he would
not be employed because of the cut in allotment, we received
a letter from him stating that he had received work in
New York and would not re-apply for work.
Q. Do you mean you were preparing to advise him! A.
I was preparing to advise him he was not to seek employ
ment here because of the cut in allotment but before the
letter got off to him I received a letter from him stating
he had been employed in New York.
Q. Mr. Hines, do you know of your own knowledge
whether any of your elementary students have, pursuant
to the freedom of choice plan adopted by the Stanly County
Board of Education, exercised their choice in transferring
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to formerly all white schools'? A. They have exercised
their choice.
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Q. Do you know of your own knowledge how many exer
cised the choice? A. Seventeen.
Q. Do you know of your own knowledge how many high
school students have exercised their choice and transferred
to formerly all white schools? A. One hundred and four.
Q. Mr. Hines, were you advised that you would have four
less teachers during the summer after the students had
indicated their desire to transfer to a formerly all white
school? A. Yes.
Q. The number of teachers that you were advised as
being allotted to your school was based on the anticipated
enrollment of students in your school, is that correct? A.
I don’t know what the Board based it on. That’s what I
assumed.
Q. The number of teachers alloted to your school, the
fifteen and one half, would not be necessitated solely be
cause of the anticipated decrease in enrollment in the ele
mentary school, would it? A. The total number would not
be going by the elementary school.
Q. The only other anticipated decrease in enrollment
resulted from the transfer by the negro students to for
merly all white schools, is that correct? A. I would think
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the decrease resulted from the transfer of students, yes.
Q. Do you have any white students at your school for
the 1965-66 school year? A. We do not.
Q. Do you have any white teachers at your school for
the 1965-66 school year? A. We do not.
Q. Did you hire any new teachers for the school year?
A. We did.
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Q. How many? A. We hired two.
Q. Do you recall what field they are in? A. One is in
elementary education and one is in mathematics.
Q. You stated Mr. Hines, that you were alloted fifteen
and a half teachers; that four teachers either resigned or
retired. Why was it necessary for you to hire two additional
teachers? A. One teacher, the teacher in the elementary
school was asked to resign after school closed because she
had quite a hit of trouble with her business arrangements
and they were interfering with the school work. Specifically,
I mean this—from time to time, in fact it happened for
some time now, I was receiving long distance calls especially
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from creditors to get her to pay her debts. It meant in
terrupting class work, etc., and I became fed up with it
last year so I told her at the time of the school closing
to get all the business straightened out; we were going to
recommend her for next year providing she does this and
we wouldn’t be bothered with this any more, so we recom
mended her for this year but after I came back from vaca
tion, I was approached by two creditors here in Albemarle
—no, one in Albemarle and one in Badin—who stated she
had given them checks which were no good and immedi
ately upon hearing this I wrote her and told her I had
given her a chance to straighten her business out and she
wouldn’t do it so I was asking her to send in a letter of
resignation. She did so and we had to hire some one in
her place. The second was hired because one of the teach
ers in the high school, Mr. Wall, who had been hired by
the Board of Education, obtained a job in Charlotte and
he wanted to be released. He asked for a release and we
had to hire some one in his place.
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Q. Mr. Hines, going back a bit, who was the elementary
teacher to retire? A. Mrs. Estelle McNeil.
Q. How long had she been in the system? A. She had
been in over thirty years.
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Q. Do yon know where she’s presently teaching? A.
She’s not teaching; she’s retired.
Q. Is she residing in Badin? A. No, she’s residing in
Fayetteville.
Q. Who was the elementary teacher you advised you
would not recommend? A. Mr. E. W. Dixon.
Q. Do you know what he is doing this year? A. No, I
don’t.
Q. Do you know his address? A. I have the school. I
know it’s in Peachland, N. C.
Q. Who was the high school teacher who resigned? A.
Mrs. Nell Holmes.
Q. How long had Mr. Dixon been in the school system?
A. One year.
Q. How long had Mrs. Holmes been in the school system?
A. One year.
Q. Do you know where she is? A. I don’t know her
address. The address which I have over here is in Salis
bury. I haven’t heard from her since she left.
Q. She was not at retirement age, was she? A. No.
Q. Who was the high school teacher you were about to
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ad vise that you would not be able to retain him in the
system? A. Frederick Welborne.
Q. How long had he been with the system? A. One year.
Q. And do you know his address? A. I don’t know his
address now. The address which I had is the Salisbury
address.
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Q. What course -did he teach? A. Social studies.
Q. Do you know what school he graduated from? A.
A. & T. College.
Q. Did he have an ‘A’ certificate? A. An ‘A’ certificate.
Q. Did he have any additional studies beside A. & T.?
A. I know of none.
Q. Was this the first year of experience anywhere or
had he taught anywhere else? A. This was his first year
of experience.
Q. Was his record otherwise pretty good? A. What
do you mean ‘otherwise’ ?
Q. Did he have a very good record? Ordinarily would
you have recommended him for the job? A. Yes, I would
have recommended him.
Q. Very highly? A. He was a beginning teacher. I
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couldn’t recommend him highly. He had a lot of edges
I thought needed to be straightened out.
Q. He had very good potential? A. I thought he had
good potential.
Q. Who was the teacher with the bad credit rating? A.
Mrs. Ophelia Glenn.
Q. Do you know where she is now? A. Yes, she’s in
Winston-Salem now.
Q. Is she teaching there or do you know? A. I do not
know.
Q. And the teacher you said requested leave from the
Board and obtained it, was Mr.— A. M. L. Wall.
Q. Do you know whether he’s teaching now in Charlotte?
A. He’s teaching in Charlotte.
Q. Mr. Hines, what’s the name of the new elementary
teacher? A. Miss Ella Little.
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Q. And the new high school teacher? A. Mrs. Sally
Brown.
Your witness.
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Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby) :
Q. Mr. Hines, I believe you stated that one of your high
school teachers, Mr. Frederick Welborne, did not come
back this year. Was he not re-hired for the 1965-66 year?
A. He was re-hired by mistake. By that I mean, I came to
the office one day and—well, let me go back a little further
—when I received a notice from the office that we had fif
teen teachers in the school, I misinterpreted the letter to
the extent that I did not count myself as the fifteenth
teacher. I just took it for granted there were fifteen teach
ers and I would make sixteen. Then later on I began to
realize that I was wrong and so I came to the office and
was talking with the secretary concerning this and at that
time we had a contract for Mr. Welborne and before the
contract was given to him, or before I left with it, the
secretary and I went over the list of teachers in our school
and found that we had signed contracts for one teacher
too many and I was told we couldn’t have the sixteenth
teacher because we weren’t alloted sixteen teachers. Did
I answer your question?
Q. Go ahead, you are answering it. A. And, of course,
when I realized that we could not have but fifteen teachers
and that I was included in the fifteen, then that is when I
planned to write to Mr. Welborne and tell him he wasn’t
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to come back, but before the letter got off his resignation
came in. He never did receive his contract.
Q. But before he was advised that he had not been re-
hired, he sent his letter of resignation to you? A. No, yes,
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yes sir before he was advised that he was not to be re-hired,
his letter of resignation came to me.
Q. In fact, he was never advised he would not be re-hired?
A. No, he wasn’t advised.
Q. And he, I believe, accepted employment elsewhere?
A. He told me in the letter that he had accepted employ
ment in New York.
Q. Mr. Hines, do you know the plaintiff in this case, Mrs.
Audrey Wall? A. I do.
Q. How long have you known her? A. I’ve known her
for, I would guess, 20 years; in the neighborhood of 20
years.
Q. Has she ever taught in the school where you were
principal? A. Yes she has. She taught in West Badin
School.
Q. When was this—what year? A. The years of ’59-’60
and ’60-’61 in West Badin.
Q. Were you principal during that time? A. I wTas.
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Q. While she was teaching in your school, what grades
did she teach? A. I believe the third grade.
Q. During that time, did you ever have to reprimand
Mrs. Wall for her conduct as a teacher? A. I did not
reprimand her with reference to conduct. However, there
were times when I had to speak to her about some things
she was doing.
Q. In other words, would you describe your relation with
her as difficult — your principal-teacher relation? A. I
would describe it as not being pleasant.
Q. In what respect? A. The main thing that was the
cause of this unpleasantness was the relationship she had
with the teachers in the school which, of course, I was a
part of. She talked; in my estimation she talked too much
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about things which she shouldn’t be talking about at the
time she was talking when she was saying them. There
were occasions when she would leave her classroom, go to
another teacher’s room and engage in some type conversa
tion and would openly cry there in front of the students
who were in the classroom, about something which she was
talking about. That happened more than once.
Q. How often would you say that happened? A. I
wouldn’t say how often. I have no idea how often it hap
pened.
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Q. Would you describe it as happening many times? A.
I wouldn’t say many. Once is too many so far as I am
concerned.
Q. Did it happen more than once? A. It happened more
than once.
Q. Did it happen more than half a dozen times? A. I
wouldn’t be in a position to say it happened more than
half a dozen times.
Q. Did Mrs. Wall follow your instructions co-operatively
or was she more or less coerced into following your instruc
tions while she was teaching under you? A. She followed
instructions. I did not have to repeat or coerce or make her
follow instructions. She followed instructions.
Q. Did she do this in a spirit of co-operativeness? A.
There were I remember, a few occasions where she didn’t
seem to be overjoyed with it but I guess that happens many
times in cases of following instructions with other teachers
as well.
Q. Did she ever say anything to you about your instruc
tions or question your instructions? A. No, she didn’t
say anything to me but I was told by the teachers that
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she questioned some of the policies of the school. She
never questioned them to me.
Q. To whom did she question these policies? A. To
other teachers in the school.
Q. Do you know whether or not she questioned them to
her students? A. I do not know that.
Q. Do you have any information? A. I have no infor
mation that she did.
Q. Did she question your authority beyond the school
personnel—outside the school, so to speak? A. I was told
that she did but I never did try to prove it or follow it up.
Q. Do you have any idea on how many occasions, dif
ferent occasions, this occurred? A. I know of one occa
sion which I was told that she was in the community speak
ing about some school policies which she should not have
been speaking about.
Q. During her tenure as a teacher under you, what sort
of attendance record did she have? A. A very good at
tendance record.
Q. Was this for the two years? A. For the two years.
Q. Did you ever, prior to recommending her for being
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hired, or after having hired her, talk to her about her
attendance? A. Yes I did. I learned that at the schools
where she had worked before that she was out quite often
because of illness and before we talked any terms concern
ing any recommendations, I asked her point blank if she
was healthy because I knew her past record of being absent
from school and I did not want her to come there with
that record and make such a record so I asked her if she
was in health to the extent she could attend school and
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be at work. She said she was and we had no trouble about
that.
Q. Do you know whether or not she was—how many days
she was out while teaching at your school during those
two years? A. I do not know. I have a record of it at
the school.
Q. Could you make that record available? A. I could.
Q. I hand you here a record of Mrs. Wall’s attendance
and ask you if that correctly reflects here attendance record
while she was teaching at your school during those two
years? A. It says “Days absent, none.”
Q. Does this reflect the situation at your school during
the 1959-60 and 1960-61 year? A. The record says that
she was not—
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Q. First Mr. Hines, is the record correct, so far as you
know? A. So far as I know the record is correct, yes.
Q. Now, for the 1959-60 year, according to the record,
how many days was she absent from your school? A. Ac
cording to the record, none.
Q. And the 1960-61 year? A. According to this record,
none.
Q. Do you know whether or not she reported to school
at any time during these years and then left school for
some reason or other before the day was out? A. I do
not know of any such instance.
Q. Now, after the 1959-60 school year ended, you recom
mended her for re-hiring during the 1960-61 year? A. I
did.
Q. At the close of the 1960-61 year did you recommend
her for re-hiring again? A. I did not.
Q. What was your reason? A. Well, in the first place,
I lost a teacher because of the decrease in enrollment and
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allotment. I had to choose a teacher to let go and I chose
her because of the reason I told you before.
Q. And what were those reasons'? A. Her teacher-to-
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teacher relationship was not good, which involved me.
Q. Mr. Hines, did Mrs. Wall make application to you for
employment this last summer at the end of the 1964-65
year? A. No, she did not.
Q. Were you asked about would you hire her by any one?
A. I was.
Q. Who asked you? A. The superintendent of schools.
Q. What did you tell him? A. I told him that I would
not want to re-hire her.
Q. What were your reasons for not wanting to re-hire
her? A. Because of her record while she was there at our
school.
That is all.
Deposition of G. L. Hines
Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mr. Hines, you said that you had recommended Mr.
Welborne for re-employment and that a contract had been
issued but was never sent to him for the 1965-66 school
year? A. That’s right.
Q. And that you had included him in the list of teachers
recommended because you misinterpreted the letter advis
ing you would have fifteen and a half teachers, thinking
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this did not include you as principal of the school? A. Let
me put it like this. When school closed, or right before
school closed, in that time, I sent to the office, the recom
mendation of teachers. I found out from the superintendent
that—I found out from him later after this had come in,
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that I had not included Mr. Welborne again. It was an
oversight on my part and no other reason at all. After I
discovered that he had not been recommended, then I rec
ommended him. I believe that recommendation came in
about the middle of June because I don’t think that his
contract was passed on until July. I received his contract
after July 4th. When I received his contract, then I real
ized that I had recommended one person too many accord
ing to the allotment I had received.
Q. Mr. Hines, when you received the reduced allotment
of teachers was there any instruction from the superintend
ent or his office as to how to go about reducing the number
of teachers you had? A. No. The information I received
was a sheet of paper stating the number of teachers I had
been alloted in the elementary school, special education,
high school and vocational school. That’s what the letter
stated. It wasn’t a letter; it was a list of positions and the
number of people for each position. The total number—
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fifteen and a half, and that’s what I received.
Q. How to reduce your teaching load would be left to
you? A. It had been left to me previously. I did not
question it this time.
Q. You mean so far as the people you recommended for
positions? A. That’s right. In years past whenever there
was a reduction of teachers, the procedure has been for me
to do it and I didn’t question what I was supposed to do
this time.
Q. You said that you were in the process of your be
ginning to write to Mr. Welborne when you were advised
he had already received employment in New York? A. I*
was advised by him he already received employment in New
York.
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Q. Now going to Mrs. Wall, would yon say she is, aca
demically speaking, a good teacher, very good teacher, a
poor teacher? A. I would say that Mrs. Wall is a very
good academically prepared teacher.
Q. And this difficulty you said you had with her is the
only problem you had with her? A. Yes, the only thing
that I objected to was her constant talking about things
she had no business talking about.
Q. You said that you spoke to Mrs. Wall or that she
followed instructions after you had instructed her as to
certain things and that she followed these instructions
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without any coercion on your part? A. I did not have to
give her any specific instructions. The instructions I gave
to the faculty, she followed them. The faculty as a whole
at that time and even now, has had a very good family
relationship and I have never had balking from the faculty
to any degree where its mentionable.
Q. Did you have occasion to speak to Mrs. Wall about
this problem? A. The problem was minute to the extent
it did not interrupt the total program of the school. It so
happened that the teachers in the school knew her better
than I did. They were constantly coming to me—not con
stantly—they were coming to me from time to time saying
to me they wished she would stop coming in their rooms
talking about things they figured she shouldn’t talk about.
At the same time they led me to believe that they knew
her and paid no attention to her but they didn’t like it,
they didn’t like her coming in from time to time speaking
about different things. For that reason, and rather than
to have a scene which I was always afraid would occur with
her, because she seemed to be quite easily upset, since this
problem was not disrupting the school and as I said, since
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she was the type person she is, I let the problem work
itself out rather than make a scene.
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Q. You said that you didn’t recommend her at the close
of the 1960-61 school year because of the decrease in en
rollment in the school and because you were losing a
teacher and you picked her because of the problem you
referred to? A. That’s right.
Q. You stated also that the superintendent requested or
asked you to employ her or if you had a position available
for her for the 1965-66 school year and you stated to the
principal that you would not like to have her. A. I stated
to the superintendent I would not like to have her back.
Q. Because of the problem you refer to? A. That’s the
reason I made the statement.
Q. Did you on any occasion, communicate with the super
intendent by letter about the problem of Mrs. Wall? A.
No I didn’t. At that time Mr. Siffert was superintendent
of schools.
No further questions.
Deposition of G. L. Hines
Re-Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. The Welborne contract Mr. Hines, you stated that you
hadn’t sent it out prior to the time you got his letter of
resignation. This contract was treated in the same man
ner as other contracts were treated by the school Board?
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Mr. Chambers: Objection. Unless you specify
what contracts you are talking about.
A. Yes.
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Mr. Doby: My understanding is the only contract
which has been mentioned was the contract of em
ployment with the school Board and that’s what we
are referring to.
Mr. Chambers: My objection is that Mr. Hines
wouldn’t be in a position to know how the Board
treated . . .
Mr. Doby: That’s for Mr. Hines, is it not?
Mr. Chambers: I would still raise the objection.
Mr. Doby: As I understand it, he answered.
Q. Insofar as Mr. Welborne’s contract was concerned,
it was treated in the same manner as other contracts, or
rather contracts with other teachers?
Mr. Chambers: Objection.
A. So far as I know, yes.
Q. Now, back to Mrs. Wall—you stated that you had
never made a written report to the superintendent regard
ing her talking. I ask you if she did not have a general
reputation among school people in this county of being
more or less hard to get along with or a trouble maker?
Mr. Chambers: Objection.
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A. She has the reputation.
Q. Let me ask this—do you know what her general repu
tation among school people is? A. The information . . .
Q. Do you know her reputation? A. I know her reputa
tion.
Q. What is that reputation? A. That she talks too
much.
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Q. Mr. Hines, this problem of her talking too mnch in
school was of sufficient import for you not to want to re
hire her again? A. That was the reason.
Q. And while you stated that the teachers in your school
came to you and told you that she was talking, would come
to their room and talk about various school matters, she
would, in order to do this, have to leave her pupils during
this time, would she not? A. She would.
Q. And I believe you stated this occurred on quite a few
occasions? A. This occurred more than once. I would not
remember—I do not remember the frequency of these visits
because as I said before, we learned to ignore and to pay
no attention to these things which she did.
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Q. You stated that she became upset quite easily? A.
She did.
Q. Just go ahead and state on what occasion, if you re
call, that she became upset. A. One occasion I can recall
now, we had had previously a meeting of our educational
association, local association. At that time the election of
officers was going on. The election of an officer—I don’t
know whether it was a general election or not—but her
name came up as a candidate for an office. When the elec
tion was held, there were many of us, including myself,
who did not vote for her but voted for someone else. Fol
lowing that meeting, we were in a faculty meeting at our
school and some situation arose in the meeting—I don’t
know what that was—but it gave her the occasion to say
that the members of the faculty don’t support their own.
And it was said in a very sneering way. It wasn’t pleasant
at all and, of course, I came back with the remark that we
are not bound to vote for people because they are members
of our faculty.
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Q. And this sort of thing, where she became npset, oc
curred quite often? A. It happened too often.
Q. And it happened during school hours as well as after
hours ? A. It would happen during school hours. I remem-
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ber another occasion when—I don’t know what it was,
what I said to her or anything—but at that time her hus
band was working at the school too and I said something
to her and I knew what was going to happen next so I
waited to see it happen. As soon as I left her room she
made a bee-line to her husband’s room. I don’t know what
the incident was but I do remember that happened.
Q. You knew after you talked to her what was going to
happen? How did you come to that conclusion? A. Be
cause it had been done before.
Q. Quite often? A. I don’t know how often because as
I said, this was 1960-61 and I have forgotten quite a bit
but I knew it happened.
Q. It happened with the degree of regularity that you
had come to expect it would happen again? A. It hap
pened so I expected it.
Q. This was a pattern with her? A. It had been enough
that I expected it.
Q. Would you describe Mrs. Wall as a highly nervous
sort of person? A. I think Mrs. Wall is nervous. I think
she’s highly nervous.
Q. Does this affect her ability to teach? A. I would
think it would affect anyone’s ability to teach.
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Q. The question was—do you think her nervous condition
affected her ability to teach? A. I can’t answer that ques
tion because I believe that had Mrs. Wall—had she concen
trated on her work, that she would have been a very good
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teacher, but she didn’t concentrate because these other
things upset her so much so it might be you can say this
nervousness did affect her teaching.
That is all.
Deposition of G. L. Hines
Re-Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mr. Hines, your statement about the handling of other
contracts would have to be made with the limitation, would
it not, of your not knowing how the Board actually handled
or what the Board actually did in the process of consider
ing contracts? A. The matter of contracts, insofar as I
am concerned, is limited to my recommending a person or
people, sending the contracts to the office and receiving
them from the office. I am asked by the Board of Educa
tion to recommend people, to write the contracts up, every
thing except the signatures of those who do the hiring.
I fill in all the information, send the contracts to the office
and receive them from the office.
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Q. What the Board does after you bring the contracts
here and prior to the time of your picking them up, you
really have no knowledge at all of what goes on? A. I
have no knowledge.
Q. Were you ever advised Mr. Hines, during your tenure
here, that the Board would consider recommendations of
yours of white teachers for positions at West Badin School?
A. I was not advised specifically but I . . .
Mr. Williams: Objection. To his answer if he
wasn’t advised specifically.
Q. You were never advised specifically by the Board that
the Board would consider applications of white teachers
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for teaching at West Badin school? A. Do yon mean
someone spoke to me personally?
Q. Did yon receive any directive from the School Board
or the superintendent’s office to that effect? A. I was
never told specifically to hire a white teacher. I was never
told that I couldn’t hire a white teacher.
Q. But you were never told you could either? A. I was
never told to hire one.
Q. And you never had one? A. I never had one.
Q. Were you ever told that the Board would consider
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any of the teachers you might lose at the close of the 1964-
65 school year for positions elsewhere in the school system?
A. I was not told because all of our teachers resigned.
Q. You were not told if your teachers had not resigned
that the Board would consider them for positions else
where? A. No, because the teacher resigned before such
a statement could have been made.
Q. One such teacher had not—Mr. Welborne? A. Mr.
Welborne.
Q. The Board did not advise you, did it, that they would
consider Mr. Welborne for a position in some other school
in the school system? A. As I said a moment ago, the
Board, or the superintendent and I both thought that Mr.
Welborne was coming back to our school until we realized
here in the office that day that we had one teacher too
many. I was not told then that he would be considered
elsewhere in the school system.
Q. The number of occasions which you stated Mrs. Wall
made—I think you said a bee-line to her husband’s office—
was after you had consulted with her. Did her going to
see her husband have any bad effect on her class or her
teaching of her class? A. She should have been in her
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classroom. I do not know of any scenes that occurred be-
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cause of this but she should have been in the classroom
though.
Q. When Mrs. Wall left your school, did she go to another
school in the system? A. She did.
Q. Was that the Norwood School? A. Yes it was.
Q. Did she secure a recommendation from you for that
position? A. No.
Q. Had you advised the superintendent about her repu
tation there at the school? A. I did afterwards, yes.
Q. And how long did she remain at Norwood after she
left your school? A. I don’t know—two years.
Q. Had she taught previously in any school in the school
system before she came to your school? A. Yes, she came
to our school from South Oakboro. She had been employed
at the Kingville School and she had been employed at the
New London School when there was a school there.
Q. All of these schools with the exception of Kingville,
are in the Stanly County school system? A. That’s right.
Q. And she left your school and went to Norwood and
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stayed there for two years? A. For two years.
No further questions.
Deposition of G. L. Hines
Re-Re-Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. Mr. Hines, you are given the authority to recommend
to the Board teachers that you desire to be hired at your
school? A. I am.
Q. And the Board follows your recommendations? A.
Up to this time the Board has not gone counter to my
recommendations.
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Q. As I understand it, the teachers you recommended
to be hired at your school have been hired by the Board?
A. They have.
Q. And in making your recommendation, these matters
are left to you? A. They are.
Q. And you are the sole person to determine whether or
not you will recommend a person for hiring at your school?
A. May I make an addition there? I also consult with the
chairman of my local committee and if I can get his O.K.
on my recommendation, then I recommend it to the Board.
Q. But its between you and your local committee as to
who you will recommend? A. That’s right.
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Q. You have stated that up until this time they have
always followed your recommendation ? A. That’s right.
Q. Was there any time when they haven’t followed your
recommendation? A. No sir.
Q. And by ‘up to this time’ you included the 1965-66
school year? A. I did.
Q. You stated that Mrs. Wall had taught in the King-
ville School and New London and Oakboro prior to coming
to your school? A. I would like for you to check King-
ville. I don’t know whether she was in Kingville before
or after my time.
Q. I believe you stated that she went to Norwood after
she left you. did she not? A. She did.
Q. And you said she stayed down there for two years?
A. That’s right.
Q. Do you know why she left the Kingville school? A.
No I do not.
Q. Did you ever discuss Mrs. Wall with the principal of
the Kingville school? A. I did.
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Q. Who was the principal of the Kingville school? A.
E. E. Waddell.
Q. Was this prior to or after yonr hiring her to teach
in your school? A. I wouldn’t know whether it was prior,
after, or during. It happened over and over again.
Q. You say you discussed it with him over and over
again? A. It was discussed from time to time, yes.
Q. What did you discuss? A. Well, the conversations
were always concerning her talking about things she had
no business talking about.
Q. Did Mr. Waddell ever tell you why she left the school?
Why she was not employed by the city school system?
Mr. Chambers: Objection.
A. I don’t know if he did.
That is all.
Re-Re-Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Where did you pick your teachers? Did you have a
file maintained here in the superintendent’s office? A.
There’s a file here which I use. I have letters. I have a
file at the school which I use. I also rely on friends who
know teachers who are looking for jobs.
Q. Is it true that the source is considered, whether the
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superintendent’s file, your file or your friends, all pertain
to negroes? A. My friends have recommended negroes to
me. Letters in my office are letters from negroes I assume,
and going by the schools they graduated from, I assume
they are negroes. There are two files here in the office.
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I think that the negroes and whites are different files—
I don’t know.
No further questions.
Deposition of G. L. Hines
Re-Re-Re-Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. When you came up to the Board for the files, you
had access to both the negro and white files? A. I
not told I couldn’t look at the other files.
That is all.
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R obert McLendon, having been first duly sworn, testified
as follows:
Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Would you state your name please? A. Robert Ed
ward McLendon.
Q. Are you employed in the Stanly County school system?
A. Yes I am.
Q. In what position? A. Principal of Lakeview Elemen
tary School.
Q. How long have you been principal of Lakeview? A.
Two years.
Q. Were you employed in the system prior to going to
Lakeview? A. No.
Q. Were you employed in the Albemarle city school sys
tem? A. Yes I was.
Q. In what position? A. Teacher.
Q. At what school? A. Kingville School.
Q. How long were you employed there? A. Pour years.
Q. Were you employed anywhere else? A. Yes I was.
Q. In Stanly County? A. No.
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Q. Nor in the city? A. No.
Q. Where were you teaching before you came to King
ville? A. At Laurel Hill, Scotland County.
Q. Mr. McLendon, how many teachers did you have in
the Lakeview Elementary School during the 1964-65 school
year? A. There were nine of us and a librarian at the
time.
Q. Your school runs from grades one through eight? A.
That’s right.
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Q. Where do your students go after completing elemen
tary school? A. Well, Kingville and other schools in and
about.
Q. During the 1964-65 school year where did they go?
A. At Kingville for the most part.
Q. Is that in the Albemarle City school system? A. Yes
it is.
Q. You say ‘for the most part’. Did they go anywhere
else? A. Well, there were some I think that did not go
to Kingville.
Q. Do you know where they went to school? A. No.
Q. Was it a school in the school system of Stanly County?
A. No, not in the county system.
Q. Not in the Stanly County school system? A. No.
Q. Would the majority of your students go to Kingville?
A. Yes they did.
Q. Would others go to the public school system? A.
Yes, unless someone was leaving town or moving.
Q. If they stayed in your area, they would go to King
ville? A. Yes, more or less.
Q. After the close of the 1964-65 school year, where did
your graduates go? A. Kingville, most of them.
Q. Do you maintain a high school in the school system?
A. Yes.
Q. How many students did you have during the 1964-65
school year? A. 261.
Q. How many students do you have now? A. 188.
Q. How many teachers do you have now? A. Six.
Q. Would this number six includes the librarian? A.
No.
Q. Six regular teachers? A. That includes me.
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Q. Does the number nine include you for the 1964-65
school year? A. Yes.
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Q. Are you still teaching grades one through eight? A.
Yes I am.
Q. Does that mean that some teacher or teachers are
carrying more than one class? A. Yes.
Q. How many teachers do you have with more than one
class ? A. Five.
Q. With more than one class? A. Yes.
Q. Are you teaching a course? A. Yes I am.
Q. Do you teach a class? A. Yes.
Q. What class? A. Seventh and eighth grades.
Q. Do you have a librarian? A. Yes.
Q. Is that a part time librarian? A. Yes it is.
Q. Mr. McLendon, the teachers you had in your school
during the 1964-65 school year, were all negro? A. Yes.
Q. Were the students all negro? A. Yes.
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Q. For this school year, are the students all negro? A.
Yes.
Q. Are the teachers all negro? A. Yes.
Q. Including the librarian? A. Yes.
Q. When were you advised that you would have a reduc
tion in the number of teachers at your school? A. It was
June, late in June; I don’t know the date.
Q. How many teachers were you told you would have for
the 1965-66 school year? A. Six.
Q. What instructions did you receive for reducing your
teachers at your school? A. Well, I received a letter
stating the allotment for our school this year.
Q. You didn’t receive any instructions about how to re
duce your teacher load? A. No.
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Q. How yon got rid of the teachers was left up to you?
A. Yes and other than I talked with them about it. I talked
to the teachers and various people about it before doing
something.
Q. Did you talk with your staff at school? A. Not as a
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group. They knew some of them would be released because
of our enrollment and loss of children.
Q. Did the superintendent advise you you would lose
some teachers because of enrollment? A. The letter stated
yes I would lose. It said I had six teachers alloted so I
lost three.
Q. How many new teachers did you hire for this school
year? A. None. We have a new librarian.
Q. Where else does this librarian teach? A. West Badin
School.
Q. She splits her time between your school and West
Badin? A. Yes.
Q. Would you give me the names of the teachers you did
not recommend for employment? A. They were Audrey
Gillis Wall, and I had two teachers to resign.
Q. Who were they? A. Edrena Davis.
Q. And the other? A. Grace Bryant.
Q. How long had Miss Davis been in the school system?
A. One year.
Q. With you? A. Yes.
Q. Was she at retirement age? A. No.
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Q. How long had Miss Grace Bryant been with you? A.
She had been with me one year but she was there before I
was.
Q. Was she at retirement age? A. No.
Q. Do you know where Miss Davis is now? A. Yes.
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Q. Do you know her address? A. Yes, she works at
South Oakboro School.
Q. That’s in Oakboro? A. Yes it is.
Q. Is that an elementary school? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know what grade she teaches there? A. I
think she has the third and fourth.
Q. Do you know where Miss Grace Bryant is now? A.
She’s in Charlotte with the Mecklenburg system.
Q. Do you know the school she’s teaching in? A. No,
I do not.
Q. What’s the name of the librarian? A. Bernice Eaton.
Q. When did you receive the resignation of Miss Edrene
Davis? A. In May.
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Q. When did you receive the resignation of Miss Grace
Bryant? A. She told me in May. I have a written state
ment from her I received in June.
Q. Did you know in April that you would have fewer
teachers for the following school term? A. I didn’t know,
no I didn’t.
Q. You were not told before? A. No. I didn’t have
official notice but we expected it, yes.
Q. You expected it in March? A. No, I didn’t have any
record of knowing at that time but in April we knew we
would lose some; we felt that way.
Q. Did you raise this issue at your staff meeting? A.
Yes I talked to them. The teachers knew about it.
Q. In April? A. Yes.
Q. That you would have a reduction in your teachers?
A. They felt we would.
Q. And Miss Davis went to South Oakboro? A. Yes.
Q. Is that in the Stanly County school system? A. Yes.
Q. Is South Oakboro a negro school? A. Yes.
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Q. Attended predominantly by negroes? A. Yes.
Q. Is it also staffed by negro teachers? A. Yes.
Q. And the other teacher yon did not recommend was
Mrs. Wall? A. Yes.
Q. How long had Mrs. Wall been with you? A. She was
there before I was. I was there only two years.
Q. Was she there when yon first got there? A. Yes.
Q. Was that the school year 1963-64? A. Yes.
Q. Did yon recommend her for employment for the 1964-
65 school year? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know how many students you had to transfer
to formerly all white schools? A. 65 I think I had in the
beginning but several since then.
Q. Was that during the month of June? A. Yes.
Q. They were to request transfer at what time? A.
For this school year.
Q. Was that during the first part of June? A. Yes, dur
ing the month of June. It wasn’t the first part; it was early.
They requested before that time.
Q. And the others you say who requested transfer sub
sequently—when did they request transfer? A. That was
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in the Spring. A little earlier than that though. I think it
was sent out in April or May; that was during the time
they requested transfer.
Q. Have you had at your school, a normal or general
increase in the number of students attending the school?
A. No.
Q. Has the number of students decreased in your school?
A. Yes.
Q. Over the years? A. Yes.
Q. Since 1954? A. I don’t know; since I have been there.
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Q. Since you have been there the number decreased? A.
Yes.
Q. Did you lose a teacher last year because of the de
crease in students? A. No.
Q. Do you know whether the number of teachers was
reduced the first year you got there from the prior year?
A. No.
Q. Do you know how many teachers you’ve lost in that
school since 1954? A. No.
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Q. Have you lost any at all? A. No. Only those that we
lost last year; three that I know about.
Q. Since you have been there, the decrease in enrollment
other than for this school term, has not resulted in the loss
of any teachers to your knowledge? A. No.
Q. This year, with the transfer of 65 students, you were
alloted less teachers than the prior year? A. Yes, I was
alloted less teachers.
Q. When was the new librarian hired? A. I think in
August.
Q. Did you recommend this librarian? A. Yes I did.
Q. Do you know whether the principal at West Badin
also recommended her? A. He did, yes.
Q. To repeat, you said that you received information in
the latter part of June to the effect that you had been
alloted six teachers for the 1965-66 school year? A. Yes.
Q. You received no instruction as to how to reduce your
teacher load? A. No, other than talking with the teachers.
Q. And the teachers you did not recommend was to sat
isfy the reduction in the allotment of teachers for the
coming school year? A. Yes.
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Q. Now you stated that Miss Edrena Davis resigned?
A. That’s right.
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Q. That Miss Grace Bryant resigned? A. Yes.
Q. And Mrs. Audrey Wall was not recommended? A.
Yes.
Q. Why did yon choose not to recommend Mrs. Wall?
A. Mrs. Wall had—in the first place her husband applied
for a position at Lakeview School and she came in early
in ’63 and told me in the office that she wanted to assure
me that she wanted, to co-operate fully and she didn’t want
me to think because Melvin her husband applied for the
job, she would not co-operate, and she left a good impres
sion, and she worked that way for a while but then she
turned. She seemed to have a negative attitude about our
school program.
Q. How do you mean ‘negative attitude’ ? A. The thing
we set out to do; our program. She always had an objec
tion ; it should have been done some other way. She would
cite what they were doing in other schools. She thought
it was much better and it would be workable in our situation.
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Q. You mean they were much better executed? A. She
felt we ought to do them as they were doing, some of the
other schools. She felt what they were doing was better
than what we were doing, and she had very poor attend
ance at our meetings. Any time we had a program or pro
fessional meeting, her attendance was very poor.
Q. Any other problems? A. She did a lot of talking.
She was always making trouble by talking to teachers and
other people and she seemed to be sick. She was out a lot
on account of illness.
Q. Do you know the frequency with which she was absent
during the 1964-65 school year? A. No. I have a record
of some of the whole days, but many days she would ask
to leave and I would let her go.
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Q. Do you know the number of whole days? A. No I
don’t. She went beyond the five days given to teachers.
Q. Do you know the number of half days? A. No, I
didn’t keep a record of it. She would get sick or need to
go to the doctor or that kind of thing and I just let her go.
Q. Mr. McLendon, when do you normally make recom
mendations for teachers for the following school year?
A. Each Spring; in April.
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Q. Isn’t it true you recommended Miss Davis for a posi
tion in your school for the 1965-66 year? A. Yes.
Q. Isn’t it true you recommended Mrs. Wall for teaching
at your school for the 1965-66 school year? A. Yes.
Q. Isn’t it true you recommended Miss Grace Bryant
for the position in your school for the 1965-66 school year?
A. Yes.
Q. In fact you recommended all your teachers for the
position for the 1965-66 school year? A. That’s right.
Q. Do you circulate a form for teachers for them to indi
cate whether they want to return to your school for the
following year? A. No. I talk to them about their work
and employment for the next year.
Q. With each individual teacher? A. Yes.
Q. And when do you have those conferences? A. In
the Spring just before my recommendations.
Q. And following the conferences with all the teachers
you recommend all the teachers for the 1965-66 school year?
A. Yes.
Q. When do you generally receive contracts back? A.
April or May.
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Q. Isn’t it true you received contracts back for all of
these people? A. No.
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Q. When did you receive them? A. I received the con
tracts. We were late getting the contracts for all teachers.
Q. When did yon receive the contracts? A. In June.
Q. The early part or latter part? A. The early part.
Q. Didn’t you receive a contract for Miss Bryant? A.
No.
Q. Didn’t you receive one for Miss Edrena Davis? A.
No.
Q. Didn’t you receive one for Mrs. Wall? A. No.
Q. For whom did you receive them? A. For Mrs.
Winfield, Mrs. Cogdell and Mrs. Coley and Mrs. Taylor
and McLendon—mine. And then I received one for Mrs.
Eaton.
Q. Now, you got one for Winfield, Cogdell, Coley, Taylor,
McLendon? A. And Melvin Rush.
Q. Is Mr. Rush in your school this year? A. Yes.
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Q. Mrs. Taylor? A. Yes.
Q. Mrs. Coley? A. Yes.
Q. Mrs. Cogdell? A. Yes.
Q. Mrs. Winfield? A. Yes.
Q. And certainly the principal? A. Yes.
Q. When did you receive the contract for Mrs. Eaton?
A. That was in August I think. It was late August. Mrs.
Nichols resigned.
Q. That’s Mrs. Bernice Eaton? A. Yes.
Q. Why didn’t you receive a contract for Mrs. Davis,
Mrs. Bryant and Mrs. Wall? A. They resigned.
Q. Mrs. Davis and Mrs. Bryant resigned? A. Yes.
Q. Mrs. Wall is still there? A. Yes.
Q. Why didn’t you receive a contract for her? A. I
didn’t recommend her after our allotment.
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Q. But you received contracts in early June and received
the allotment in late June? A. No, I received the allot
ment before I received the contracts.
Q. Then you mean after you received the allotment you
withdrew your recommendation of Mrs. Wall? A. After
I received the allotment then I had to decide on who would
be relieved.
Q. Did the superintendent meet with you at any time to
discuss a reduction in your teachers at your school? A.
Yes.
Q. Did he talk with the staff? A. I don’t know; not
during my presence.
Q. You didn’t have a meeting at which he appeared to
discuss the problem? A. No.
Q. He talked with you individually about it? A. Yes.
Q. Did he explain to you why you were losing the teach
ers? A. He said we would probably lose teachers and
that was before the official letter on that.
Q. Is there another school in Norwood beside the Lake-
view Elementary School? A. Yes.
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Q. What’s the name of that school? A. Norwood.
Q. Is that a union school, grades one through twelve?
A. No.
Q. An elementary school? A. Yes.
Q. Norwood Elementary? A. Yes.
Q. Is that predominantly white? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know of your own knowledge whether any
negro students were attending that school? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know of your own knowledge how many? A.
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Q. Do you know of your own knowledge whether any
negro teachers are at that school? A. I don’t think so.
Q. Is there another negro school in the Stanly County
system to your knowledge, besides Lakeview Elementary
and West Badin and South Oakboro? A. No.
Q. Do you have a district school committee at your
school? A. We have an advisory council.
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Q. Is this made up of parents in the community who have
children attending the school? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know the names of the members of the advis
ory council? A. Yes. Cliff Reed, James Ledbetter and
George Blakeney.
Q. Did you receive the contracts do you say in the middle
part or early part of June? A. Yes, in June.
Q. Did you receive another contract after that for this
school term? A. Mrs. Eaton’s.
Q. The teachers did not have to execute another contract?
A. No.
Q. After June? A. No.
Q. Was the contract you received the same type contract
in the same form you received last year? A. It was the
same general type, yes. It was a new contract though.
Q. Did the language in the contract differ? A. For the
most part it was the same.
Q. Was there any change in the provisions that you know
of? A. No, other than the advisory council instead of the
school committee that we did have.
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Q. Your recommendations — what do you mean? A.
You’re saying was it the same and I said yes, generally
the same, but I said the recommendations from the com
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mitteemen and the principals and all this was not on the
new contract.
Q. The new contract made no reference at all to the
recommendation of the advisory council which replaced the
committee? A. No.
Q. Did it make any reference to the recommendation of
the principal? A. No, the only recommendation was his
having* to pass it in which would mean he recommended it.
Q. The specific language of the contract made no recom
mendation to that? A. No.
No further questions.
Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. Mr. McLendon, you stated that some time during the
month of April the teachers in your school became aware
there would be a reduction in the teacher load or a reduc
tion in the number of teachers alloted? A. Yes.
Q. And this awareness came about because of the im-
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pending freedom of choice plan that the Board of Educa
tion was then implementing? A. I would think so.
Q. Because of the possibility that students in your school
would exercise their choice to go to another school and
therefore the number would be reduced and a correspond
ing reduction in the number of teachers? A. Yes.
Q. Now you, of course, at that time did not know what
students would transfer away and you did not know what
teachers you would be alloted, did you? A. No.
Q. Nor did you know what grades those teachers would
be assigned? A. No.
Q. And you, of course, did not make your recommenda
tions as to the teachers that would be hired until such time
as you received notification of the number that your school
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would be alloted for the 1965-66 year? A. Yes, after I
received the allotment, yes.
Q. It was at that time that you recommended the hiring
of the teachers? A. Yes.
Q. And prior to that time, you had made no recommenda
tion because you did not know just how many teachers you
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would have? A. I didn’t know but I had passed in con
tracts for them to the office. I didn’t know in the Spring
of the year, but usually at that time of year we had that.
Q. But did you make a formal recommendation? A.
Yes, I passed the contracts into the office.
Q. By ‘passing the contract’ does that mean you recom
mended for re-hiring? A. Yes.
Q. Even though at that time you did not know how many
teachers you would have? A. That’s right.
Q. And after you secured your allotment, you recom
mended the teachers that would be hired? A. Yes.
Q. Now of course, you did not make this decision until
such time as the Board of Education notified you of the
allotment? A. That’s right.
Q. And when you say the middle of June, are you posi
tive about that date? A. No, I am not.
Q. So the superintendent would have the more correct
date than you on this? A. Yes.
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Q. And it could have been, rather than the middle of
June, the middle of July? A. It could have been.
Q. By passing in contracts, what do you mean? A. I
mean I make my recommendations at the school and turn
them in to the county office here.
Q. Your recommendation is what you term as the ‘pass
ing in of the contract’ ? A. Yes.
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Q. How many elementary teachers did yon have, primary
teachers, did yon have in yonr school during the 1964-65
year? A. Three.
Q. Who were they? A. Mrs. Winfield, Mrs. Turner and
Mrs. Cogdell.
Q. What grades do yon classify as primary? A. First,
second and third.
Q. During the 1964-65 year what grade did Mrs. Wall
teach? A. The fourth.
Q. How many fourth grade teachers did you have then?
A. One.
Q. That was Mrs. Wall? A. Yes.
Q. Mrs. Winfield—is she teaching for you now? A. Yes.
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Q. What grade is she teaching? A. The first.
Q. And Mrs. Turner—is she teaching with you now? A.
No, she’s at South Oakboro.
Q. When did she leave your school? A. At the end of
the year 1964-65.
Q. Is this after you recommended her for re-hiring? A.
Yes, she had told me.
Q. And Mrs. Cogdell—is she with you now? A. Yes.
Q. What grade is she teaching? A. Second and third
combination.
Q. Do you know what grade Mrs. Turner is teaching at
South Oakboro? A. No. I think its third and fourth.
Q. Who is teaching the fourth grade during this year,
the 1965-66 year, at your school? A. Mrs. Taylor. A com
bination of the grade and Mrs. Coley has a part of it.
Q. Each of these teachers were with you last year? A.
Yes.
Q. Why did you decide not to recommend Mrs. Wall for
this fourth grade job? Why did you pick her over Mrs.
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Taylor? A. Because of her attitude about our school pro
gram.
Q. What was her attitude? A. Negative. She didn’t
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want to follow what we had set out to do. Our program
was outlined for the year and things she didn’t like, she
wouldn’t do.
Q. Did you have very much trouble with her in this
respect? A. Yes. I called her in several times and talked
to her about it.
Q. What was her attitude when you talked with her? A.
It was one time I upset her so she went to the hospital and
stayed for about a week and I just stopped talking to her.
Q. She was out of school a whole week? A. Yes and
after that happened I wouldn’t bother with her.
Q. Why did you not talk to her after that? A. I felt
it had something to do with it because she seemed excited
after I talked to her.
Q. Would this negative attitude still persist? A. Yes.
Q. What was her attitude toward you as principal? A.
It was negative. She just didn’t agree with me; we didn’t
get along.
Q. Did she ever argue with you about any decisions you
made? A. Yes, she did that.
Q. Did she ever defy your order or refuse to do what
you told her to do? A. Yes.
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Q. How often would she do this? A. Any time. She had
no set time because if she didn’t want to do it, she just
didn’t do it. Anything you had to come back for, a program
or anything like that, she just didn’t do it.
Q. With regard to any rule or regulation that you might
have had in the school requiring teachers to—state whether
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or not you did have any rules or regulations requiring
teachers to attend the cafeteria at meal time with their
children? A. Yes we did.
Q. Did Mrs. Wall abide by this ruling? A. No. Some
times she would go but not regular; only when she got
ready.
Q. Did she stay away more than she went? A. Yes.
Q. Who looked after her children while they were in the
cafeteria? A. Two other teachers were in there with them.
Q. Where was Mrs. Wall during this time? A. In her
classroom and other places around the building.
Q. With regard to after-school activities that you dis
cussed, what activities are you referring to now? A. Any
professional meetings, P.T.A., commencement, anything we
might have she came when she wanted to.
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Q. With regard to the professional meetings, did she
attend those with any degree of regularity? A. No. The
Stanly County and the N. C. Teachers’ Association, she
didn’t attend those.
Q. Did the other teachers in the school attend regularly?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you have any rule or regulation requiring teachers
to attend? A. Yes I did.
Q. With regard to the P.T.A., what was her attendance
at that? A. I don’t have a record of it but she just didn’t
—she came when she got ready.
Q. Was she away more often than she was there? A.
Yes.
Q. Did you have any ruling requiring your teachers to
attend the P.T.A.? A. Yes I did.
Q. You mentioned commencement. Did you require your
teachers to attend commencement? A. Yes.
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Q. Did Mrs. Wall attend? A. No. She attended one
since I’ve been there and she missed one.
Q. Did yon discuss this absenteeism with her? A. Yes.
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Q. What was her attitude? A. She always had some
excuse; she was sick, she didn’t feel well; although she
worked during the day. I guess she was sick, but she used
that as an excuse not to attend.
Q. With regard to any activities, selling candies or money
raising activities in the classroom, did you, as a principal,
permit your teachers to sponsor this type of thing? A. At
certain times of the year, yes.
Q. Under what conditions or situations did you permit
this ? A. In the evenings after three o’clock we would per
mit it then until we leave at about 3 :30 or 3 :45. That was
twice a year. We had that just before the Christmas parade
and in May.
Q. Did Mrs. Wall participate in this type of thing? A.
Yes.
Q. What about this type of thing that you did not spon
sor, did she carry on? A. Yes. I would see the children
with things and ask them where they got them and they
bought them from Mrs. Wall.
Q. What happened to the money? Was it accounted for?
A. I don’t know. It might have been; I don’t know.
Q. So far as your school program was concerned, was it
turned into your school program? A. I wouldn’t know
that. At tha time we didn’t have anything going on but
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when we put on a program she could have turned it in.
Q. How did Mrs. Wall get along with her fellow teachers?
A. She was always into one or the other. She didn’t get
along with them.
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Q. Did this have an adverse affect on your school! A.
Yes. Sometimes we would have trouble with other teachers
because of her not going along with what we set out to do.
Q. What was her general attitude toward your school?
A. I don’t know. Seemed like she wanted to do it her way.
She had a mind of her own.
Q. Will you state whether or not she seemed to resent
your authority over her? A. Yes. She’s told me that many
times. Things that I could do to help her with she wanted
the superintendent to get it done. Like a letter was written
I think in the Spring, rather than have me recommend her,
I think she came to the office and had it done here.
Q. She didn’t want your recommendation? A. No.
Q. Did she ever compare the Lakeview School with other
schools in the county? A. Yes.
Q. Who did she make this comparison with? A. West
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Badin School. That was the school she worked previously.
She would tell me how early they would get out or what
they were doing that we weren’t doing. She didn’t see the
need for teachers staying there as late as we stayed. They
were getting out at 2:30 and I’m keeping mine until 3:30.
She just didn’t see it.
Q. After school did you require your teachers to be in
attendance until the children got on the bus and left for
home? A. Yes.
Q. Did she co-operate with you in this respect? A. Yes,
when she was on bus duty she did but she objected to me
doing it. She didn’t think it was necessary.
Q. You stated on direct examination that quite often
she would come to school and for reasons of her own she
would ask to be excused. A. Yes.
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Q. Would she remain away from school the rest of the
day? A. Sometimes. Sometimes she would go home to get
a bottle of medicine or go to the drug store and come hack.
Q. How often did this type of thing occur? A. She was
that way all the time, constantly.
Q. Would you say once a week? A. While she was leav
ing going to Concord once a week. She left school on
Friday.
Q. What time of day was this? A. 2:00 o’clock.
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Q. What time did school get out? A. 3:30.
Q. Who would attend her classroom? A. I put some
student with them while she was gone.
Q. Where did the student come from? A. The eighth
grade. To begin with I told her I couldn’t do it; I had to
get a substitute and did get a substitute half a day for
her and she told me then she couldn’t afford it and then
she thought she would leave at 2 :00 and no need for a
substitute and it would help her with her medical hills and
I went along with it and let her leave at 2 :00 without getting
a substitute.
Q. You say this occurred at least once a week? A. For
a while, yes.
Q. For how long a period? A. All the Spring, three or
four months.
Q. Prior to that time, how often did it occur? A. Before
that time she would leave—she would ask to leave about
3 :00 o’clock just before the bus children got on the highway
to try to get ahead of that and then she say she couldn’t
get an appointment at that time of day so she had to
change. She went to Concord to some doctor over there.
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Q. Do you know her general reputation as a school
teacher? A. Yes, I think she is impressive. You would
think she was the kind of teacher you would want if you
see her in the classroom.
Q. Is this the first impression? A. Yes.
Q. After you get to know her and work with her, does
this impression continue? A. No, she’s the kind you
wouldn’t . . .
Q. She’s generally just a troublemaker? A. Yes.
Q. As to the hiring of teachers, I asked you if you did
not have absolute discretion in who you wanted to hire
down there? This was entirely your decision? A. Yes.
Q. The School Board never told you who to hire or not
to hire? A. No.
Q. This was up to you? A. Yes.
Q. And who you recommended, the School Board hired?
A. Yes.
Q. And they didn’t tell you who to recommend? A. No.
Q. Was Mrs. Wall’s attitude and her conduct while em
ployed in your school, such as it interfered with your dis-
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charging your duties as principal of that school? A. Yes.
Q. Did it make it more difficult? A. Yes it did.
Q. Did you have to devote right much time considering
what she was doing when you could have devoted it to
other matters at the school? A. Yes, I could have been
doing other things, yes.
Q. Prior to you becoming principal of the Lakeview
School, I believe you said Mrs. Wall was there when you
got there? A. Yes.
Q. Had you ever taught with her in any other school in
the county? A. No.
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Q. Did you ever work with her? A. No.
Q. You were formerly principal at South Oakboro? A.
No, teacher at Kingville School before going to Norwood.
Q. Did you ever teach out at South Oakboro? A. No.
Q. And she was not in the city school system when you
were at Kingville? A. No.
That is all.
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Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mr. McLendon, when the rumor started at your school
about the possibility of loss of teachers at your school for
the following school term, didn’t some teachers attempt to
look other places to try to secure employment? A. Yes.
Q. Because no one knew who would be the one who was
not to be back in the system the following school term? A.
That’s right.
Q. Were your teachers a bit apprehensive during the
latter part of May and June about not having contracts
for the following school term? A. Yes.
Q. Its generally the practice is it not, for school boards
to submit contracts to teachers before they leave at the
end of the school term? A. Since I have been there, yes.
Q. And you stated these teachers did not have the con
tracts at the end of the school term? A. Yes.
Q. It was later on in the summer before they received
the contracts? A. Yes.
Q. And several teachers were worried about employment
for the following school term? A. Yes.
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Q. And some even looked elsewhere for employment?
A. Yes.
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Q. Isn’t that the case with Mrs. Turner? A. No, she
resigned because she was pregnant and then she later came
to me for a job. She wanted a job because I believe there
was a mistake on when the baby would arrive and she was
ready to go back to work when the school opened and she
didn’t think, in May or June she would, when she resigned.
Q. But in April when you sent in the recommendations,
you included her in the list? A. She resigned yes, but she
resigned after that.
Q. But you included her originally? A. Yes.
Q. Did Mrs. Cogdell go looking for a job during this
period when the teachers did not have contracts? A. She
might have, I don’t know.
Q. She is in Mecklenburg? A. No, that’s Mrs. Bryant.
Q. Didn’t she go looking for a job during this period?
A. Yes, I received inquiries.
Q. You stated you did recommend Mrs. Wall initially for
the position for the 1965-66 school term? A. Yes.
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Q. You stated that you had the absolute discretion to hire
teachers or recommend teachers? A. Becommend.
Q. Were you ever advised by the School Board that you
could recommend white teachers for employment at your
school? A. No.
Q. You never received any directive at all from the
School Board to that effect, did you? A. No.
Q. Do you know whether any white teachers have taught
in your school? A. No, I do not.
Q. None have while you have been there? A. No.
Q. Isn’t it true Mr. McLendon, that in the school system,
white teachers have taught at white schools and negro
teachers at negro schools? A. Yes.
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Q. Isn’t it true Mr. McLendon, that this is one of the
reasons for the fear at the end of the school term . . .
Mr. Doby: Objection.
A. I don’t know.
Q. Let me re-phrase it. You stated on cross-examination
that the fear that the teachers had at the end of the school
term of the loss of jobs was because of the possible trans-
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fer by negro students at your school to formerly all white
schools under the freedom of choice law? Isn’t that right?
A. Yes.
Q. Isn’t it true that the negro teachers then in your
school knew of the policy of the School Board in assigning
only white teachers to white schools to which negro stu
dents were requesting transfer?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
A. I don’t know that was what was done.
Q. That is certainly the practice, is it not? A. The prac
tice, yes.
Q. Where do you select your teachers from? Do you
have a reservoir of teacher applicants? A. Yes.
Q. Does this consist entirely of negro applications? A.
Yes.
Q. You don’t have any white teachers involved in that,
do you? A. No.
Q. The recommendations you make, therefore, would
consist only of negro teachers? A. Yes.
No further questions.
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Re-Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. Mr. McLendon, in recommending teachers, the School
Board never told yon who to recommend? A. No.
Q. And this was left entirely to you? A. Yes.
Q. And if yon wanted to recommend a white teacher, yon
had that choice? Yon could have? A. They never told me
not to.
Q. So yon had no reason to believe yon could not if yon
wanted to? A. No, no directive.
Q. And insofar as the hiring of teachers, that the prin
cipal recommends to the Board the teachers he would like
hired in his particular school? A. Yes.
Q. And the Board accepts the principal’s recommenda
tions? A. Yes.
Q. And hires those teachers for that particular school
upon the principal’s recommendation? A. Yes.
Q. Now yon stated that you recommended Mrs. Wall for
hiring for the 1965-66 year. Why did you recommend her?
A. At that time it was early and I didn’t know—we had
no official notice—that was prior to the letter of allotment.
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I received that later.
Q. Did you have any other applications for jobs for
teaching positions there? A. Yes I did.
Q. Who were they? A. I had Mr. Gibbs.
Q. What grade was he applying for, or year? A.
Seventh grade I believe. I had other applications for
various grades.
Q. Did you have any for the grade Mrs. Wall was teach
ing? A. Probably so.
Q. Do you know? A. No I don’t.
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284a
Q. At the time you recommended Mrs. Wall for employ
ment in the 1965-66 year, there were no applicants for
employment for her position? A. Not especially hers, no.
Q. And you recommended her because there was no one
else available? A. I didn’t have any other. That’s right,
I didn’t have any other applicants for the position.
Q. And in view of the problem you had with her, had
you had another applicant, you would not have recom
mended her?
Mr. Chambers: Objection. To this line of ques
tioning. I think the witness has stated he had sev-
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eral applications for various grades; probably some
for the grade Mrs. Wall was teaching.
Q. The reason you recommended her was because you
had no application at all for her position? A. No, I didn’t
have any.
Q. Mr. McLendon you stated that after the first year
she taught with you down at Lakeview, 1963-64, that you
recommended her I believe for re-employment? A. Yes.
Q. I ask you if you haven’t stated that you did this
unwillingly and that prior to doing it you had some reser
vations and spoke to your committee about recommending
her again? A. Yes I did.
Q. And you did have some reservations about making
this recommendation? A. Yes.
That is all.
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Re-Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mr. McLendon, you stated did you not, that you had
several applicants or applications by teachers for positions
at your school? A. Yes.
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Q. Did you not state that Mrs. Wall taught the fourth
grade? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know of your own knowledge whether she had
a grammar or elementary certificate? A. She had a gradu
ate certificate.
Q. Would this entitle her to teach grades one through
eight? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know whether or not of your own knowledge,
any of the applicants for positions at your school had
grammar certificates? A. Yes, and primary.
Q. Did any have elementary certificates ? A. No, I think
it was grammar and primary.
Q. Can a person with a grammar certificate teach in
grades four through eight? A. They can but its not rec
ommended. We would rather have them in grammar
grades.
Q. What are the grammar grades? A. Four to eight.
Q. So they can teach in grades four to eight? A. Yes.
Q. A person with a grammar certificate can teach grades
four to eight? A. Yes.
Q. And the primary certificate teachers teach grades one
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to three? A. Yes.
Q. You vary, don’t you? A. It has been done but I
haven’t done it. This year we have that because of com
bination classes but prior to that we haven’t.
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Q. In fact, Mr. McLendon, any of the grammar grade
applicants could have taught the fourth grade, couldn’t
they? A. Yes.
Q. The certificate would have authorized them to teach
fourth through eighth? A. Yes.
Q. You said that you had no directive from the School
Board not to recommend a white teacher, hut is it not true
that because of the practice that has been followed in the
school system, you would not have recommended a white
teacher for a position at your school? A. I don’t know. I
haven’t had it to do. I just don’t know.
Q. You know the practice is not to do it? A. I know I
haven’t.
Q. You know no other negro principal in the school sys
tem has done it? A. I don’t know that.
Q. You don’t know any that has done it, do you? A. Fo.
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Q. You don’t know any white principal in the school sys
tem that recommended a negro teacher? A. Fo.
Fo further questions.
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Luther A. A dams, having been first duly sworn, testi
fied as follows:
Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Would you state your name please? A. Luther A.
Adams.
Q. Are you employed by the Stanly County Board of
Education? A. Yes.
Q. In what position? A. Superintendent.
Q. How long have you been in that position? A. 2%
years nearly.
Q. Were you employed by Stanly County Board of
Education in any other capacity prior to becoming super
intendent? A. No.
Q. Were you employed in any other school system prior
to coming here? A. Yes.
Q. In what school system? A. I was employed in the
Alamance County schools, the Cabarrus County schools,
Southern Pines City schools and the Stanly County schools.
Q. Did you come here from Alamance County? A. No,
from Southern Pines.
Q. You were employed first in Alamance County, then
Cabarrus and then Southern Pines? A. Yes.
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Q. How long were you in Alamance County as a teacher
and coach? A. One year.
Q. What about Cabarrus County? A. I was teacher
and coach there approximately three years and principal
for eight years.
Q. And Southern Pines? A. Superintendent of city
schools.
Q. For what period of time? A. For four years.
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288a
Q. Were you familiar with the practices of the School
Board of Stanly County prior to your coming here as
superintendent, so far as assignment of students and
teachers in the school system? A. I was not familiar with
them, no, not until I came here.
Q. Have you since become familiar with the policies
prior to your coming here? A. Yes.
Q. Are you, as superintendent of the Stanly County
schools, the administrative officer of the School Board?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you also serve as secretary of the School Board?
A. Yes.
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Q. Do you keep the minutes of the meetings of the
Board of Education? A. Yes.
Q. How many schools do you have in the Stanly County
school system? A. We have 17 schools in all.
Q. How many elementary schools? A. We have—let
me put it this way—we have 14 elementary schools and
4 high schools but actually we have a union school situa
tion at West Badin which gives us an elementary and
high school together. Actually we have 17 schools but
the union situation at West Badin.
Q. Counting the West Badin school as 1, you have 17
schools? A. Yes.
Q. What type of plan do you operate under her—the
6-3, the 8-4? A. Generally the 8-4 throughout. Actually
in the union school its 8-4; that’s the generally accepted
pattern.
Q. Do you have any junior high schools in the system?
A. No.
Q. Are the students transported to the schools in the
system by bus, in any school? A. Yes.
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Q. At all schools? A. All schools have some bus ser
vice.
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Q. Do you know of your own knowledge how many ele
mentary teachers you have in the school system? A. Off
hand I don’t, but I can get it for you momentarily.
Q. Do you know how many students you have in the
elementary schools? A. In round figures 5100 or o200.
I think that could be more or less.
Q. You say you don’t know personally how many teachers
you have in the 14 elementary schools? A. No. To be
accurate I would have to check. I know the total number
but I haven’t broken it down in elementary and high
schools.
Q. You don’t know then the number you have in the high
schools for this year? A. No.
Q. Do you know the number of students you have in the
4 high schools ? A. Approximately 2,000.
Q. Do you know the total number of teachers you have
in the school system for this school year? A. We have 240
state alloted teachers and I believe 22 vocational teachers.
Q. The vocational teachers, are they state alloted? A.
Yes.
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Q. Would this 240 include the 22 vocational teachers?
A. No, the 22 would be in addition. I am quoting figures
strictly from memory. I can authenticate these figures a
little better with my records. I want to make that point
because I don’t want you to hold me to 240 or 250 teachers.
I think these records are readily available but I don’t recall
offhand.
Q. Do you know of your own knowledge whether the
School Board employed teachers in addition to those state
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alloted? A. Well, I presume you mean by ‘employing’,
paying them!
Q. Yes. A. We have some locally paid teachers. I be
lieve it amounts to this year, five or six at least in whole
or in part by local funds.
Q. Do you know whether these five or six will teach
any academic courses! A. No. Mr. Chambers what we do
here actually is this—the standard procedure and practice
I think—we take some of the lowest rated people that
we have. If its an A.O. teacher which is your lowest
salaried person we have, we just find six or those or five
of those or whatever we’ve got and pay those from local
funds. The state carries those that have the highest
salaries. We don’t differentiate as to position or anything
like that; its just a matter of us paying the lower salary.
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Q. You mean by A.O., an A certificate with no years
experience? A. Yes.
Q. And five or six of these teachers might be teaching
any course? A. That’s right.
Q. You would be able to find, however, who these
teachers are that you are paying locally? A. Yes, by
checking the payroll we can.
Q. When you employ these teachers, you wouldn’t indi
cate then whether they would be paid locally or by the
state as state alloted teachers? A. Actually what hap
pens is this—our local county of course, our local funds
coming from the county, are set up and then what we
have tried to do is this with local monies, is to put guidance
people and band people or special ed. people into some
of our—particularly into our high schools. By doing that
we get five or six positions from local funds which in
our case we take and pay the lowest rated teacher and
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then we employ some one for these positions that we are
actually looking for on the high school level; in this in
stance, guidance and counselling and hand or music. Ac
tually these people are the ones we actually employ lo
cally but we pay them with state funds. Its a matter of
bookkeeping, is what it is.
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Q. Do you pay any supplementary fees in addition to
the salaries allowed by the state? A. We pay no sup
plementary salaries—not to teachers.
Q. Do you pay it to anyone else? A. We pay no sup
plementary salaries. We pay some travel.
Q. What do you mean by ‘travel’ ? A. This is money
paid to coaches and industrial arts teachers, band, to
compensate them some for travel above and beyond their
normal duties.
Q. How do you determine that? Do you have a set fee
you pay the coaches? A. No. The Board sets up what
ever travel funds are available and we have actually set
up more by school than we do by individual. We set up
$1500.00 for travel, for instance, for coaches or actually
we call them physical education directors, and $1500.00 say
for industrial arts people and that sort of thing. Its set
up more by schools than it is by individuals because each
of the schools have this type of program and it does
require extensive travel and time after school. We do
pay travel to administrative people and I understand also
to supervisors and itinerant teachers that have to travel
from school to school.
Q. You say that your travel for coaches and industrial
arts would be determined primarily on the basis of schools ?
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A. The amounts allocated are allocated to the school’s use.
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Q. Would the same amount be allocated to each school?
A. Yes.
Q. The amount for West Badin would be the same as for
your other schools? A. If there was a need for it, yes.
Q. What do you mean by a ‘need’ ? A. If travel is in
volved.
Q. Is the same amount of travel allowed for the coach
at West Badin as at West Stanly? A. I don’t believe we
allocate any travel to West Badin. I don’t believe we do.
I would have to get that out. We actually don’t, as I
recall, allocate any travel.
Q. Would that be true with respect to both coaches
and industrial arts teachers? A. Yes.
Q. The travel for administrative staff people, is that
a certain amount allocated in a lump sum like $300.00 a
year? A. Yes, or so much per mouth.
Q. It will be a set sum? A. For the year it will be a
set sum.
Q. And the same thing would be true for the coaches
and industrial arts teachers? A. Yes. On this travel I
think—I want to clear this point up—that the salary sup-
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plement that we pay, we—I am getting a little confused
with the salary supplement too and the travel in the sense
we use it here. The money that we pay for these coaches
and industrial arts teachers and band people, whoever
might be paid, is paid in the form of travel rather than
in the form of salary, for tax purposes mainly. We can’t
pay them salary and travel and we can’t get an indus
trial arts teacher without paying him something extra
above the state salary so we pay him all we can in terms
of travel. It is in a sense a salary supplement but its
not paid as salary but as travel.
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Q. Mr. Adams, at the time yon came into the system,
which would have been the 1963-64 school year, how were
the students assigned to the various schools in the Stanly
County school system? A. I assume as they have been
assigned all across the state but I don’t know that we had
any set policy that called for assignment other than what
was prescribed in the state.
Q. This would be, would it not, basically for initial as
signment, the same procedure you followed prior to 1954?
A. So far as I know it would be, yes.
Q. In effect you had, did you not, negro students as
signed to negro schools and white students assigned to
white schools? A. Yes.
Q. Now this would be true for the 14 elementary schools
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you had? A. Yes.
Q. And when a student initially enrolled in school, the
pattern at least was that negro students would enroll in
all negro schools and white students in the all white
schools? A.Yes.
Q. How were students promoted from elementary to
high school so far as the high school that the graduating
elementary students would attend? A. You are talking
about all of our elementary schools?
Q. You have four high schools? A. Yes.
Q. Would you name those high schools? A. West
Stanly, North Stanly, South Stanly and West Badin.
Q. Students going to West Badin High School would
be those graduating from West Badin Elementary School?
A. That’s right.
Q. Would you have any other students going there? A.
No.
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Q. Just the students finishing West Badin? A. That’s
correct.
Q. Students going to South and North and West Stanly,
would be those graduating from predominantly or entirely
all white elementary schools? A. Yes. You are talking
prior to this year now?
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Q. Yes. A. Yes.
Q. That’s the year you came into the system which is
1963-64? A. Yes.
Q. The Lakeview Elementary School is entirely negro,
student-wise? A. Yes.
Q. And it was at the time you came into the system?
A. Yes.
Q. The South Oakboro school is entirely negro so far
as students, isn’t it? A. Yes.
Q. And it was at the time you came into the system?
A. Yes. *
Q. Is there another elementary school beside West
Badin Elementary School, South Oakboro and Lakeview,
attended by negro students at the time you came into the
system? A. No.
Q. Students finishing South Oakboro and Lakeview
would go to what high school? A. Kingville.
Q. That’s in the city school system? A. Yes.
Q. Did you have any other than negro students attend
ing, to your knowledge, West Badin High School? A. In
1963, no.
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Q. Is it true that teachers at West Badin Elementary,
South Oakboro and Lakeview were entirely negro? A. Yes
that’s right.
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Q. Is it also true that students at West Badin High
School were entirely negro? A. Yes.
Q. Is it true that teachers at the other elementary schools
in the system were all white? A. Yes.
Q. Is it true that teachers at the other high schools were
all white? A. Yes.
Q. And at the time you came into the system, the schools
staffed by white teachers were attended entirely by white
students? A. That’s correct.
Q. Now, going to the 1964-65 school year, was this not
the same pattern? A. It was the pattern typically except
in instances where we integrated our North Stanly High
School voluntarily.
Q. The North Stanly High School? A. Yes.
Q. You mean therefore, that with the exception of North
Stanly the elementary schools were pupiled like that were
the same year you came into the system? A. Yes.
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Q. And likewise the high schools with the exception of
North Stanly? A. That’s correct.
Q. Both with respect to students and teachers? A.
That’s correct.
Q. At North Stanly High School, what change was made
there? A. We had applications from two colored girls to
transfer from Kingville High School to the North Stanly
school. This request was presented to the Board and the
Board acted on it immediately and assigned the children
to the school.
Q. Were these two negro students initially assigned to
Kingville and requested transfer to North Stanly? A. By
‘assigned’, they were there; I don’t know how they got
there. They were attending Kingville.
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Q. They had previously been assigned to Kingville? Was
it your procedure at that time to initially assign students
to a school and then permit them upon request, to transfer
out to another school! A. At the beginning of the 1964-65
school year?
Q. Yes. A. I don’t believe our Board had a policy at
that point in regards to that. We had had no requests of
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any sort to attend, or any desegregation of our schools at
this point. Our Board had, so far as my knowledge is
concerned, no policy concerning matters such as this.
Q. Such as requesting transfer? A. Yes. Now suffice
it to say we surely had discussed or thought about requests
coming from both races and assignments—it was generally
agreed that assignments would be made to the schools to
which the children requested to attend. The chairman
knows more about the policy than I do before I came, but
our policies prior to 1963 I presume were similar to other
school systems; children attended the school in the district
in which they resided. They were assigned to the schools
closest to where they lived except in instances of mutual
agreement where children were permitted to attend schools
outside their district. Thse requests generally came to the
Board of Education for action and were usually dispensed
by the Board.
Q. It’s true is it not, that you had at that time over
lapping school zone lines so that negro students for in
stance in Norwood, who resided next to white students in
Norwood, would attend different schools? A. That’s cor
rect.
Q. And the same would be true with respect to other
areas in the school system? A. Yes.
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Q. And the students would initially, at least, and subse
quently each year, be assigned to the school that their par
ticular race had attended previously! A. Yes.
Q. This was true through 1964-65? A. Yes.
Q. With the exception of the two negro students request
ing transfer after initial assignment to Kingville, to North
Stanly High School? A. Yes.
Q. Now Mr. Adams, what procedure did you follow in
assigning teachers to the schools in the school system up
until the end of the 1964-65 school year? A. When I came
here we operated on this basis—teachers were alloted to
the County Board of Education by race and these teachers
were alloted—I say to the County Board—actually alloted
to the County Board of Education assigned to the particu
lar school and all we did here in the office was to notify our
principals of this assignment or this allocation of teachers
and this was done by schools.
Q. You mean that the State Board of Education would
allot teachers to you by race? A. Yes.
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Q. So many negro and so many white teachers? A. Yes.
Q. They would not identify the teacher, however, would
they? A. No, only the number.
Q. And you would receive an allotment of maybe 200
negro teachers and 200 white teachers? A. Yes.
Q. Isn’t it true you would notify the principal at West
Badin that he was alloted so many teachers? A. Yes, we
transmitted this state allotment directly to the principal
through notification from this office along with any other
teachers that might be alloted to that particular school in
various areas such as mental retardation, exceptionally
talented, speech therapy and that sort of thing. Those
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become unit-wide allocations; actually work on an itinerant
basis in several schools.
Q. How would you get an applicant into the school sys
tem? I am talking about up until the end of the 1964-65
school year. A. Actually the applications for positions
could be made directly to the principals of the schools in
volved or directly to this office. Prior to this year, the
manner in which teachers were elected or selected, came
upon application by the teacher to the principal and the
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principal then—it was his duty and responsibility to nomi
nate or recommend a teacher to his school committee and
then it became the responsibility of the school committee
to elect this teacher. Following this, the application then
and the contract if the principal and the school committee
were affirmative in their action, were brought to the super
intendent of the Board of Education for their approval or
disapproval and that in essence, is the procedure in which
an application was filed and followed through.
Q. Now, is it your understanding that the superintendent
or the Board could either approve or disapprove of the
particular teacher recommended by the School Board and
the principal? A. Yes.
Q. Now you say the applications could be directed either
to the principal or the superintendent? A. Yes. Often
times the application would come to the superintendent
when there was no specific job in mind, just stating their
qualifications and their interest. These applications were
kept on file here in the office. The principals then could
check these files at their pleasure or leisure and go through
them and if they saw something that looked interesting,
they could pull them from the files and make contact with
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these applicants. However, most of our applications come
directly to the principals in the county system.
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Q. Is it true you maintain separate files of applicants,
one for negroes and one for white? A. It is true to this
extent—we did separate them for the convenience of the
principal, the white from the colored, yes.
Q. You did have that? A. Yes.
Q. You say for the convenience of the principal. Will
you explain that? A. Normally the negro principals were
not interested in white applicants and so when you’ve got
a file of 150 or so applications, you try to make it con
venient for them and separate them and the same would be
true of white principals.
Q. They wouldn’t be interested in the negro applicants?
A. At that point, no.
Q. Did you have a negro principal at a white school or
a white principal at a negro school up through the 1964-65
school year? A. No.
Q. Let’s go to the 1965-66 school year. What change, if
any, did you make with respect to the assignment of stu
dents in the schools? A. The Board adopted a plan of
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compliance under Title 6 of the Civil Bights Act of 1964
and it’s under this plan that the procedures outlined in this
plan that we assign pupils to the county schools this school
year.
Q. Under this plan are students initially assigned to the
school and then permitted to request transfer out? A. No.
Q. How do they get in the school? A. The Board gave
a choice to the parent and the child, what we commonly
refer to as the freedom of choice plan which the Board
said a child could attend any school it desired regardless
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of race or color or national origin and that this request
would he granted.
Q. How, at what time was this choice given to the stu
dent? A. I believe it was a rather hurried situation hack
then because there were times when we didn’t know whether
our plan would be approved or not approved and I believe
we had a cut-off date of May 15th that all children would
have to have a request from all children or students by
May 15th.
Q. In other words, did you pass out a form to the stu
dents for them to indicate a choice! A. Yes.
Q. And these forms were supposed to be hack in by May
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15th? A. Yes. These forms were to he taken home to their
parents for their signature and then returned to the school
at which time they were returned back here to the office.
Q. For assignments for the 1965-66 school year? A. Yes.
Q. What happened in the case of a child who didn’t indi
cate a choice? A. That was a difficult situation, that we
had to come hack and correct. After talking with officials
in Washington they said we had to have a request from
everybody. Of course this all being new and all being an
entirely different approach to the assignment of children,
created quite a hit of confusion and misunderstanding and
as a result, we had about 400 children, both negro and white,
who failed to make a request by the 15th of May deadline
so we had to come hack, and actually what we did was come
hack to our principals and ask them to make a personal
contact with all these children and get the form into us
signed by the parent and this was done except with an
instance I believe we ended up probably with about 15 stu
dents that we know of whom we never could get a form
from and we then arbitrarily assigned them to the school
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nearest to which they resided. I say ‘we’, I mean the Board
of Education and that out of about 7000 children was a
pretty good return.
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Q. Do you know of your own knowledge whether any of
these 15 were negroes? A. Yes, I think the majority of
them were.
Q. Do you know the schools to which they were assigned?
A. I believe the majority of these children were assigned
to either New London or Richfield Elementary School.
Q. Would you have the names of these students and the
schools to which they were assigned? A. Yes.
Q. Did you have any students to request re-assignment
after they were assigned by you to a school? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know how many such students requested trans
fer? A. Yes. We didn’t keep a record of it to that extent,
but we had I would say, in the neighborhood of 200 or 300
children, white and colored, who requested re-assignment
after the initial assignment was made, but our reply to
these people generally was this—that after the initial re
quest had been made and the assignment had been made by
the Board, that there could be no re-assignment until the
following school year except in hardship cases or except
in change of residence where a child would move from
living near this particular school to becoming a resident
nearer another school. Normally we made no re-assignment
after the initial assignment unless it was a hardship case.
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Q. Did you make some re-assignments? A. Yes. Very
few but some, and this involved both negro and white. In
fact, we just had a case the other day.
Q. Now, do you have students this year attending King-
ville High School? A. Yes.
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Q. Up through the 1964-65 school year did the county pay
a supplement to the city for students attending the King-
ville school? A. No, not to my knowledge.
Q. Did it give any type of assistance to the city for the
county students in the city school system? A. Not to my
knowledge except in this instance. The children who were
assigned to the Albemarle city administrative unit received
a per capita of the allocation for schools based on the num
ber of children attending that school both in current ex
penses and capital outlay. In that sense the county did
contribute to the support.
Q. Was this for both negro and white students? A. Yes.
Q. For this school year are you following the same pro
cedure, that is making per capita supplement for students
in the county attending city schools? A. Yes.
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Q. For this year, how did you go about employing teach
ers for the school system for this year? A. Essentially
the same as we have been doing in the past; upon recom
mendation of the principal.
Q. Were your applications again made to the principal
and to your office? A. Yes.
Q. Do you still maintain separate files for the negro and
white applicants? A. Yes.
Q. The estimate of the number of students for the school
system in the elementary school are 5100 or 5200. Was
that for this school year? A. Yes.
Q. What would be your estimate of the number of stu
dents in the school system for the 1964-65 school year—
elementary? A. It would run about the same.
Q. Would that be true for the high school students too?
A. Yes.
Q. Now the number of students you gave of 240 state
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alloted, 22 vocational teachers and 5 or 6 locally paid teach
ers, would be for this school year? A. Yes.
Q. Would your figure differ for the last school year? A.
Yes, to some degree. We had fewer state alloted teachers.
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We had fewer state alloted academic teachers in the county
this year than we had the previous year. We had more
vocational teachers alloted this year than last because we
have intensified our vocational program. In fact, we more
than doubled it requiring a greater number of teachers in
the vocational area but our academic teacher group was
less this year than the previous year because of the re
duced enrollment.
Q. But your enrollment you estimate was about the same
thing? A. Yes it was approximately the same thing but
it was slightly less or else we would have gotten the same
number of teachers. The allotment formula changed a little
bit too Mr. Chambers. You probably recall where the gov
ernment set up a new situation with a greater allotment of
teachers in the primary grades and we thought through
this formula teachers were allocated on the basis this year,
primary, grammar grade and high school on three differ
ent formulas. Heretofore this has not been the case but
even with all the new formulas and the fact that we thought
we might gain teachers this year, we ended up with the
exact same number. We had 240 last year and 240 this
year but we did grow some in the sense that this primary
allotment formula did give us an additional teacher or two
in the county whereas we would not have had it had it
not been for this formula.
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Q. Did you increase your locally paid teachers for this
year? A. No.
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Q. You had the same number as last year? A. Yes.
Q. Five or six? A. Yes.
Q. You say your state allotment for academic teachers,
your estimate was 240 for this year and last year? A. It
was identical, yes.
Q. And you had an increase in vocational teachers? A.
Yes. Actually the increase in vocational teachers gave
us an increase in the total number of teachers, although
we have less students.
Q. Now, you had some change did you not, in the method
by which teachers were alloted by the state board. Do
you now have teachers alloted by race by the state board?
A. No, beginning this year they were not.
Q. You are alloted a certain number of teachers? A.
Yes.
Q. With no reference to race? A. That’s right.
Q. This would be true with reference to vocational
teachers as well as academic teachers? A. That is correct.
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Q. Now, there has been some change also in the state
law, has it not, in the procedure followed in county school
systems by which teachers are recommended by district
committees? A. Yes there has been some permissive
changes made. It is not obligatory and in this system we
have changed our procedures some from last year.
Q. To what extent have you changed your procedures?
A. Actually when the state alloted us teachers on the
basis of this number only, contrary to what they had been
doing in previous years, they also had legislation passed
to permit the system to go to what we refer to as one
district. In so doing, in going to one district, which our
Board of Education decided to do, it eliminated all but
one school committee. Heretofore I believe the school
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committees were appointed to the school districts and yon
may have one, two or three schools in a district so far
as that goes, within a county, but the school committees
were appointed in the school districts by the County Board
of Education and going to one district this eliminated the
school committees as we knew them up until this year but
the legislation which was passed permitted school boards
to set up what we now call advisory councils for each
school or each group of schools, depending on what the
Board desired. In our case we set up advisory councils
for each school and assigned to them certain duties and
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responsibilities to help them carry out their work effec
tively.
Q. Now the elimination of districts and the one district
that you now operate under, permits the students to trans
fer or be assigned to any school within this one district?
A. Yes, the student may attend any school of his choice
within the county.
Q. What duties do the advisory councils have? A. Well,
they have specific duties in the area of—several areas—
looking after buildings, grounds. They are to serve as an
advisory group to the principal on matters that he brings
before them. In general, to be of what assistance they can
to the principal.
Q. They no longer allocate teachers as they did before?
A. That’s correct. What we have said is this—our prin
cipals will nominate or recommend and that they will,
prior to this, consult with their school advisory council
if necessary and then this recommendation or nomination
is brought to the superintendent.
Q. Is it true that when the state Board of Education
up through the 1964-65 school year would allocate teachers
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by race, it would not indicate the school to which these
teachers were to he assigned? A. I don’t follow you there.
Q. When the state Board of Education would allocate
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the number of teachers to you up through the 1964-65
school year which you said would be by race, did they
indicate the school to which the teachers would be as
signed? A. Yes.
Q. In other words, they would allocate X number of
teachers for West Badin, X number for Norwood? A.
Yes.
Q. This school year did they follow that same system?
A. This school year the state alloted teachers to the Board
of Education.
Q. But with no indication as to school? A. No.
Q. You had, did you not, several negro students to
request transfer to formerly all white schools for the
1965-66 school year? A. Yes.
Q. Do you recall how many you had? A. Its over 300.
Q. You wouldn’t have the figure? A. I have the exact
figures, yes.
Q. And you said that these would have indicated a
school by at least May 15th? A. Yes.
Q. Now of the 200 or 300 students who failed to indicate
a choice of schools before May 15th but who indicated a
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choice after, do you know whether you had any negro
students in this number who requested assignment to
formerly all white schools? A. I don’t know how many
we did but I am sure we had some. We’ve got no record
of it except to assign to the school to which they requested.
Q. You would have the names of these students or at
least the number by race of the 200 who did not indicate
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the choice of school? A. No, we don’t keep any record
by race any more. Its rather difficult for us to say. In
fact its hard to single anything out by race any more.
We don’t keep a dual set of records any longer.
Q. You did keep records by race during the 1964-65
school year? A. Yes.
Q. And would your records show whether the one, two
or three of the 200 or 300 students who didn’t request
assignment by May 15th were negro or white? A. No.
You see the only way—what happens is this—we gave the
children an opportunity to say where they wanted to go
to school and all of them except 300 or 400 did make a
choice. Then we came back, and all we did was assign
them to the schools they requested. Then the 300 or 400
who didn’t make a request, we came back and contacted
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them individually, by the principals and got them to make
their requests or choice and then they were routinely as
signed by the Board to the school they requested. We
didn’t go to any great lengths to talk about it or anything
like that. We just routinely assigned them and sent them
on. Then of course, the 10 or 15 that we could never get
to make the request, and I think most of these were negro
children, were assigned arbitrarily by the Board to schools
closest to where they resided. It so happens all these
children had previously been attending Kingville School,
the negro children.
Q. You mean of the 200 or 300? A. No, of the 10 or
15 we arbitrarily assigned, and this came about by this
fact—that the administrative unit in Albemarle told the
county Board of Education last year that this year this
school year, they could no longer take negro elementary
children from the county into the state; that they did not
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have adequate facilities and room for them so this in
effect then put the burden back on the county to assign
these children either by freedom of choice or arbitrarily
to the school nearest to which they reside, which the Board
did.
Q. When you contacted the principal about the 200 or
300 students who didn’t request assignment, you wouldn’t
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know for instance, whether the students at West Badin
that requested re-assignment would be negroes? A. Yes.
On the forms they signed it calls for the school they
presently attend. What I am getting at is, once these
forms came to the office, we didn’t look at them by race
any longer and we don’t have them separated in our
office by race. They merely come here—all those that re
quested X school, we assign X school and they are all
in that stack so we have no way of knowing how many
might have been negro or white.
Q. You had negro elementary students attending King-
ville? A. And high school.
Q. Do you have any negro elementary students in King-
ville in grades one through eight? A. Yes, there are some.
Q. Do you know the number of such students? A. Pos
sibly five or six.
Q. Do you know the number of negro students you now
have attending high school? A. No I don’t, but I can
give you an educated guess and that’s all it would be.
Q. Would you be able to supply this number? A. I
could call over to the city and get it. Here again they
will have to count heads because they don’t keep these
records any more by race, as you know.
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Q. Do you have any negro students from the county
attending any other than Kingville High School or any
school in the city unit! A. I would have no way of
knowing that at this point. If we permitted a child to go
to the city, he would have to be assigned by the city
School board and they assign him. I have no record of
that.
Q. Would the negro student coming into the city be
assigned by the School Board to Kingville? A. Yes, com
ing from the county into the city. I think there are negro
children from the county who have been assigned to both
high schools in the city of Albemarle but I couldn’t verify
that at this point.
Q. You are saying the students are assigned by the
city School Board? A. Yes. Once we release them, by
mutual agreement they make the assignment.
Q. How do you release them? A. Through mutual
agreement between the two Boards.
Q. How does the student in the county get into the
city? A. By application.
Q. He applies for a particular school? A. Yes.
Q. Does your plan submitted to the Department of
Health, Education and Welfare, govern this? A. Yes.
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Q. Now, when did you advise the various principals of
the number of teachers that would be alloted for the 1965-66
school year? A. Shortly after I received it from the state
and we were able to work out a formula for it ourselves
and I believe, as I recall, the date on our letter was dated
June 25th.
Q. Did you send a mimeographed letter to each princi
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pal? A. Actually its a mimeographed form and we fill in
the form.
Q. Do you have a copy of that form? A. Yes.
(Form marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit #1.)
Q. Mr. Adams, did you send a form similar to the form
that has been marked for identification as Plaintiff’s Ex
hibit #1, to each of the principals of each school? A.
That’s correct.
Q. And you had filled in here the allotment for the par
ticular school? A. Yes.
Q. And you have only one copy of this form? A. That’s
correct.
Mr. Chambers: The parties have stipulated that
a copy of the form that was sent by Mr. Adams
to each school might be substituted in lieu of the
original.
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Mr. Chambers: We would like to tender this form
also.
Q. Now Mr. Adams, did you determine the allotment for
each school? A. Yes.
Q. The number was determined in your office? A. Yes.
Q. How did you determine the allotment for the school?
A. By average daily attendance of the children.
Q. Was that during the 1964-65 school year? A. Yes.
Q. Did you take into account the number of students
who had requested transfer to other schools? A. Yes.
Q. And you had this information available from the re
quests submitted prior to May 15th? A. Yes. Now the
information that we used in teacher allotment came after
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May 15th because we had no way of knowing prior to
that time.
Q. Did you have that information from the state of the
teacher allotment prior to sending these forms to the
various principals? A. No. You are talking about the
teacher allotment?
Q. Yes. A. We didn’t get the teacher allotment until
late in June.
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Q. You say you sent this form out about June 25th?
A. I think that’s correct.
Q. That is the form marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit #1?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you send another form after June 25th? A. No.
Q. You determined prior to June 25th the number of
teachers that would be alloted to West Badin? A. Yes.
Q. And to Norwood? A. Yes.
Q. And Lakeview? A. Yes.
Q. Did you have to make any adjustment in that after
you received the teacher allotment from the state? A. No,
we made no teacher allotment here until we got the teacher
allotment from the state.
Q. But the forms you sent out on June 25th indicated
the allotment for teachers? A. Yes, to each school.
Q. Now at that time when you determined the teacher
allotment, you didn’t have the state teacher allotment?
A. We had the number of teachers the state alloted us
when we fixed the forms for our principals. We could not
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make an allotment until we had an allotment to make our
selves.
Q. But you did not have this information prior to
June 25th? A. Yes, just a day or two before.
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Q. You had the state allotment prior to June 25th for
the number of teachers alloted the system for the 1965-66
school year? A. Yes.
Q. And you prepared the list for each school indicating
the allotment of teachers for the school? A. Yes.
Q. And you took into consideration the average daily
attendance at each school and the number of students who
had requested transfer from the school to other schools?
A. Yes.
Q. Your determination then of 15̂ 2 teachers at West
Badin was based on the average daily attendance at West
Badin and the number of students at West Badin who
requested transfer to other schools? A. Basically, yes.
Q. Was it based on anything else? A. You have to
anticipate things at times, but nothing developed other
than that.
Q. Would the same be true for the teachers alloted
South Oakboro? A. Yes.
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Q. And Lakeview Elementary School? A. Yes.
Q. Your reduction in teachers at Lakeview was based
then on the average daily attendance there and the num
ber of students who requested transfer to other schools?
A. Yes.
Q. Would your allotments show that the teacher allot
ment for Norwood increased as a result of the number of
students requesting transfer from Lakeview to Norwood?
A. I don’t know whether it would show due to increase of
students from Lakeview to Norwood, but it could possibly
show it from increased enrollment or anticipated enroll
ment. Whether they all come from Lakeview or not is
another story.
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Q. Then would it be however, because of the number of
students requesting transfer to the Norwood School regard
less of whether they came from Lakeview or West Badin
or some other school? A. That’s right.
Q. But the allotment increased for this year? A. I
would have to check that. I think it possibly did increase
by one but here again you got off into a situation which
doesn’t tell the whole picture because teacher allotments
are made based on—we try to put the teachers where the
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children are somehow or other and some times the average
daily attendance doesn’t show the whole picture.
Q. Do you know of your own knowledge that the allot
ment increased at West Stanly? A. Its hard to say. This
was worked out during the Summer and I would have to
go back to my figures to see but I believe the West Stanly
allotment decreased this year. I am talking about decrease
in academic teachers. It may have gained some in voca
tional but I am definitely sure it decreased in academic
teachers.
Q. Now, did you consult with the principals of each
school prior to or immediately after you sent the form
to the principals advising them of the allotment of teachers
for the 1965-66 school year? A. Not specifically, no, other
than the directive we sent from the office.
Q. Is this the only directive you sent from the office?
A. Yes.
Q. You didn’t send any other instructions to the prin
cipals? A. No.
Q. How was the principal at West Badin to eliminate
the four teachers, or the loss of teachers, that resulted
because of the decrease in allotment? A. Of course I
would have to hazard a guess here but I would think he
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would have to take several things into consideration. The
way the teachers—he would have to prepare his teachers
I presume, those on his staff, and try to eliminate those
that didn’t fit into his program. That is with the reduced
number of children, naturally he would have to curtail
his program some and sometimes if you don’t have enough
children taking English, you don’t need an English teacher
and various things could affect it hut that would he one.
Q. Your office didn’t send any specific instructions? A.
No.
Q. Was he to compare these teachers with other teachers
in the school system or just the teachers on his staff? A.
I have no way of knowing about that. The principal recom
mends the teacher. You might base your recommendation
on something different than mine. I just don’t know, and
one teacher may work well in one school where she
wouldn’t in another.
Q. Did you advise the principals if they had a decrease
in allotment and had to reduce the teachers, they would
be absorbed in other schools in the school system? A. No.
Q. Would the same be true where we are talking about
West Badin and the situation at Lakeview Elementary
School, that is, that you issued no specific directive to the
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principals? A. No.
Q. And you didn’t advise the principal there that you
would absorb these teachers in other schools? A. No.
Q. Did you have any reduction in teacher allotment at
South Oakboro? A. No.
Q. You have the same number of teachers there now
you had last year? A. Yes.
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Q. You had a reduction in teacher allotment at only
West Badin and Lakeview? A. No, we had a reduction
of teachers at West Stanly. I would have to go back to
my record on this because its all rather hazy in my mind
but I recall we had—based on the old formula, we would
have lost teachers in 11 schools this year had it not been
for the new forms.
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A. Its a little hazy. This was all worked back in the Sum
mer and. . . .
Mr. Doby: I would like to suggest that we get
into those areas where he is not hazy and says
he has the records. May we let him get the records
so we will have it in the record and try to save
a little time and confusion too.
Q. Mr. Adams, do you know whether you employed any
new teachers in the school system for this school year?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know how many teachers you employed? A.
Yes.
Q. New teachers for this school year? A. Yes.
Q. Can you state how many? A. Yes, 54.
Q. Now Mr. Adams. . . .
Mr. Williams: Isn’t that one of the specific re
quests you made in your subpoena duces tecum?
Mr. Chambers: I think so.
Mr. Williams: We have the information for you.
A. These are the teachers employed for 1965-66 but not
employed for 1964-65.
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(List of Teachers marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit #3.)
Q. Now Mr. Adams, do you have the teachers who taught
in the school system during the 1964-65 school year and
who were not re-employed? A. That’s this one here.
(List of Teachers marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit #4.)
Q. Mr. Adams, do you have a list of all schools in the
Stanly County school system and the number of pupils
enrolled by race? A. Yes.
(List of Schools marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit #5.)
Q. Now on Plaintiff’s Exhibit #5, would that be enroll
ment of students by race for the 1965-66 school year? A.
Yes, that’s the latest data.
Q. Now, do you have a list of all teachers in the school
system by race for this school year? A. Yes.
(List of Teachers marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit #6.)
Q. Now Mr. Adams, looking at Plaintiff’s Exhibit #4,
which is the list of teachers who taught in 1964-65 and
who did not return for 1965-66, could you give us the
names of the teachers who are negro? A. I couldn’t do
it out of my head, no sir. I could get it for you but I
would have to go back to the records.
Q. Now looking at Plaintiff’s Exhibit #3 which is the
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list of new teachers, could you indicate the teachers who
are negro? A. No sir, I have no way of knowing.
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Q. Do you have an explanation for the teachers not
returning; as to the reason why they did not return? A.
No, we don’t have anything to my knowledge other than
maybe some spoken words, sometimes maybe pregnancy
or something of that sort.
Q. Do you know of your own knowledge how many negro
teachers did not return for this school year? A. For all
causes ?
Q. Yes. A. This would be a guess again.
Q. Would you be able to supply that information? A.
Yes.
Q. Now Mr. Adams, when a school such as West Badin
had a reduction in the number of teachers alloted, did you
in fact consider the teachers not recommended by the
principal for any other position in the school system? A.
Did we in fact not consider them?
Q. Did you consider them for another teacher position
in the school system? A. We considered any of them that
a principal recommended whether it was a teacher reduc
tion or not.
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Q. If the teacher was not recommended, you did not
consider the teacher? A. No, sir.
Q. The negro teachers at West Badin who did not return,
were not recommended by any other principal? A. Well,
I don’t know. I am just thinking seems like there was one
employed down at South Oakboro that was recommended.
Seems like one of our teachers who taught at Norwood she
applied at West Badin I think.
Q. One that taught at Norwood or Lake view was recom
mended down at South Oakboro? A. Yes.
Q. But to your knowledge you know of no teacher at
West Badin who was not recommended by the principal
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who was recommended by any other principal in the sys
tem? A. Not to my knowledge. In fact, I don’t know of
any application.
Q. Would the same be true at Lakeview with the excep
tion of the teacher you think was recommended at South
Oakboro? A. Yes.
Q. You stated, did you not, that you did not advise the
principals of these schools that the teachers would be con
sidered for a position at any other school? A. No, I didn’t
discuss the matter with the principals at all.
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Q. Now, did you lose any white teachers as a result of
reduction of enrollment at any of the schools? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know how many and who they were? A.
Here again I would have to go back to the records but I
know I lost one at West Stanly and one at South Stanly
but then a resignation took care of that, and I am not
just sure about the elementary schools. I know of those
two particularly.
Q. Do you know whether the white teachers at these two
schools you mentioned were employed in any other school
in the school system? A. One of them is employed in the
school system.
Q. Do you know whether the other one was? A. No,
she resigned.
Q. Was she beyond retirement age? A. No, I don’t
think so.
Q. Do you know her name? A. I am not sure whether
it’s a ‘her’ or a ‘he’ right now.
Q. Can you explain why you would have a loss of teach
ers at these schools with the same number of teachers al-
loted in the academic field for this year? A. What?
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Q. Why you would have a loss of teachers in the two
white schools with the same number of teachers alloted
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for this school year? A. Yes. You take some teachers in
some instances where we—for instance at South Stanly,
we actually have the same number of teachers for this year
as last year but we actually lost teachers because we had
an increase in vocational teachers. Now that’s a little con
fusing unless you understand the teacher allotment formula
and it’s a very difficult thing for me to understand. I
think that explains it as best I can do it. That the aca
demic teachers are alloted on the basis of average daily
attendance and your vocational teachers are alloted on the
basis of subject matter.
Q. With the same number of teachers in the academic
fields for this school term as you had last school term, you
would have at least a corresponding increase in a school
over a decrease in another school, would you not? A. Yes.
We had a reduction in the number of academic teachers in
the system this year compared to last year.
Q. I thought you said you had 240 for last year and 240
for this year? A. That’s correct, I did. You get into this
1 for 15 business now. This is another allotment of teach
ers based on the number of—actually you get 1 additional
teacher for each 15 teachers you have in the system and
through the allotment formula worked out on the primary
level, we did gain a teacher in that area which was not
based on average daily attendance. It was based on the
increased allotment of teachers and that’s where we get
confused because we get an extra number of teachers. We
get more teachers perhaps than you can justify by the
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number of children you have some times and this happens
nnder this new formula.
Q. But if you lost three teachers at Norwood, you would
perhaps gain three teachers at West Stanly to maintain
the same number of academic teachers you had before! A.
This is possible, yes. Of course you would have to have
children at West Stanly to do it.
Q. And you had an increase in the number of vocational
teachers for this school? A. Yes, very much so.
Q. Did you have any negro teachers teaching at an en
tirely or predominantly white school? A. No.
Q. Do you have a white teacher teaching at any predomi
nantly or entirely negro school? A. By ‘teaching’ do you
mean in the regular classroom routine situation?
Q. Yes. Do you have a supervisor? A. Yes, we have
central office personnel that serves all schools.
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Q. Would this be a white supervisor? A. Yes.
Q. Serving all the schools? A. Yes.
Q. Do you have a negro supervisor serving all schools?
A. No.
Q. How many supervisors do you have serving all
schools? A. Two.
Q. Both would be white, serving all the schools? A. Yes.
Q. Under the State system for the 1965-66 school year,
the concept at least is that all teachers belong to one school
system and may be assigned by the school system to schools
in the school system? A. That’s correct.
Q. Do you have a negro principal at any of the white or
predominantly white schools? A. No.
Q. Do you have a white principal at any of the negro or
predominantly negro schools ? A. No.
Q. In other words, your assignment of teachers for this
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school year is basically the same as for last year? That is,
you have white at white schools and negro at negro schools?
A. We have no assignment of teachers based on race.
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Q. The result has been, however, that you have only white
at white schools or predominantly white schools, and negro
at negro or predominantly negro schools? A. That’s cor
rect.
Q. Did you bring a file on Audrey Wall? A. I wasn’t
sure what you had in mind by ‘file’. I don’t know what you
had in mind. I didn’t know what you were seeking on her.
We don’t keep a file.
Q. You don’t keep a file on teachers? A. No, other than
the administrative file, payroll and social security deduc
tion and that sort of thing.
Q. Do you keep a file on the application of the teacher,
the educational training of the teacher, any complaint you
might receive about the teacher? A. No sir, not to my
knowledge.
Q. You don’t keep such a file? A. No.
Q. If you received a complaint from a principal regard
ing a teacher, would you have that in your files anywhere?
A. I presume so.
Q. Do you have a complaint in any file regarding Audrey
Wall? A. No.
Q. Do you have a complaint in your files regarding Mr.
E. W. Dixon? A. No.
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Q. Mrs. Nell Holmes? A. No.
Q. Mr. Frederick Welborne? A. No.
Q. Mrs. Ophelia Glenn? A. No.
Q. Mr. M. L. Wall? A. No.
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Q. Did you have a complaint on file regarding’ Miss
Edrena Davis'? A. No.
Q. Mrs. Grace Bryant? A. No.
Q. So far as your files show then, you have no criticism
at all of the teaching and performance of the teachers I
named in the school system? A. I have no file on them.
Q. Would your file reflect the educational training, de
grees and certifications of the teachers who did enroll for
the 1965-66 school year? A. If we had—and here again
you are getting into an area which we don’t have a staff of
personnel to maintain, and to my knowledge it’s never been
maintained. These people when they leave us, we have no
further record of them. In our case here, actually the re
quest for their records is usually if they stay in teaching,
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come to us from wherever they might seek employment
elsewhere.
Q. Would you have any record to show whether Mrs.
Grace Bryant had a B.A. or B.S. degree? A. Yes, we have
her teaching certificate on file in the office.
Q. Her certificate? A. We did. She is not teaching
with us. We don’t have it any longer. We return it to the
teacher.
Q. You wouldn’t know her years of experience? A. We
could get it from our records but we transmit this informa
tion to wherever she might be working.
Q. Do you have records now which would show that? A.
Yes.
Q. Would you have records to show her degree or cer
tificate? A. We might. I would have to guess.
Q. Would the same be true of other teachers who did
not return this year? A. Yes.
Q. It would be true, would it not, of teachers who are
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here this year? A. We have their teaching certificates on
file, yes.
Q. And the years of experience, whether in this system
or elsewhere? A. Yes, we have to have that for payroll
purposes.
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Q. Did the principals of West Badin and Lake view com
municate with you regarding the teachers they were not
recommending because of the reduction in allotment? A.
Yes, I think in perhaps a rather vague way.
Q. Would you explain that? A. I recall Mr. McLendon
discussing with me the situation at Lakeview and he was
confronted with a reduction in teacher allotment and he
had two teachers there I believe he told me, he felt like
the school would just be better off without and wanted to
know how I felt about the situation and I told him we
would take his recommendation; that he would have to
make the recommendation himself as to which teacher
would be less troublesome to him on the staff and it took
him a while to do that but he decided it himself and sug
gested, of course, Mrs. Wall.
Q. Now originally for the 1965-66 school year, Mr. Mc
Lendon had recommended all teachers teaching at that
school during the 1964-65 school year? Either in April or
May he recommended all teachers that taught the previous
year for the 1965-66 school year? A. I presume—I don’t
know whether you and I are thinking in terms of what
recommending means here, but in the year the legislature
meets, which is every two years, there’s no teacher allot
ments made to the county or city units until after the
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legislators go home, for obvious reasons and that was the
case in this year which the teacher allotment came very
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late in the year and oftentimes teachers get apprehensive
about employment for the next year perhaps. They want
to know something, so we told our principals, after talking
with the School Board, that we could not employ any one
of course until the teacher allotment had arrived here and
we made the allotment, but that any teacher who signified
a desire to return to the system next year, upon the rec
ommendation of her superintendent, we would employ her
contingent upon the teacher allotment being made.
Q. You say upon the recommendation of the superin
tendent. You mean the principal? A. The principal, and
this would be continent, of course, as we told our principals,
upon the teacher allotment being made.
Q. But Mr. McLendon had recommended Mrs. Wall?
A. Yes.
Q. And he had recommended the other teachers who
taught with him last year? A. Yes.
Q. Is it not true that Mr. Hines had also recommended
all teachers teaching at West Badin last year? A. Who
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had signified a desire to return, either reluctantly or other
wise.
Q. Isn’t it true that the Board had acted upon the- rec
ommendations of some of these teachers before you sent
out the allotment? A. Yes.
Q. And had, in fact, recommended their re-employment?
A. Yes.
Q. And had, in fact, approved their re-employment before
you sent out the teacher allotment? A. No, nothing can
be done until the allotment has been made official. In other
words, anything the Board did would be contingent upon
the allotment.
Q. Didn’t the Board consider recommendations of vari
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ous principals before the 25th of June? A. Yes, many of
them brought them in earlier.
Q. Had not the Board also approved the recommenda
tions of the teachers recommended by the principals before
the 25th of June? A. Yes they did and this was contingent,
of course, upon the teacher allotment being made.
Q. And the minutes of the Board will reflect that, will it
not? A. Yes.
Q. Can you give us the date of the Board meeting at
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which the Board considered the recommendations of the
teachers and approved these? A. Yes. I cannot give it to
you offhand but I could give it to you.
Q. The Board and the principals changed this after
they received the teacher allotment? A. Yes.
Q. Now isn’t it true that during the summer of 1964 you
sent a letter of recommendation to the University of North
Carolina for Mrs. Audrey Gfillis Wall? A. In regards to
scholarship, etc.?
Q. Yes. A. Yes, I think she asked me to write some
thing, that she wanted to attend a workship. This is a
routine thing—we have to certify that she is under em
ployment.
Q. You did in fact, send such a letter to the University
of North Carolina? A. I would have to check the files on
that but I vaguely remember she did attend a course there
that did require my certifying that she was employed.
Q. To a Dr. Harshman? A. Yes.
Q. Did you not send a letter of recommendation to Dr.
Robinson of A. & T. College during the summer of 1965
for Mrs. Audrey Gillis Wall to attend a workshop? A.
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Yes I certified that she was here and had been employed
here this year.
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Q. Didn’t yon certify in the letter that she was also
employed for the next school year? A. I don’t know. I
would have to get a copy of the letter to see.
Q. Do you have a copy of that letter available? A. I
would think so, yes.
Q. Now Mr. Adams, you stated that during the year the
legislature meets you are late in getting the teacher allot
ment and therefore the contracts back to the teachers.
Isn’t it true that this is, in fact, the first year you have
been as late as you were in getting the teachers’ contracts
back? A. No, this happens every two years.
Q. You mean it happened prior to the year you came
here? A. I don’t know about this place but it did in
Southern Pines.
Q. But you don’t know about Stanly County? A. No sir.
Q. In fact, this is the only year this occurred in Stanly
County? A. Yes, in Stanly County.
Q. Do you have copies of the plan of compliance adopted
by the Stanly County Board of Education which you sub
mitted to the Department? A. Yes.
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Mr. Williams: That’s attached to your copy of the
answer.
Q. Now in Section 10 of this plan you state that the
Board is aware of and recognizes that school desegregation
includes desegregation of faculty and is now in the process
of developing a policy whereby staff and professional per
sonnel will be employed solely on the basis of competence,
training, experience and personal qualifications and will be
assigned to and within the schools of the unit without re
gard to race, color or national origin and that this policy
will be put into effect immediately after it is developed
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but in any event to commence by the 1966-67 school year.
Now what steps have yon taken pursuant to directions of
the Board, to implement your policy here of assigning and
employing teachers on a non-racial basis? A. It would be
pure speculation right now on my part. We haven’t gotten
that far along for a definite commitment at this point.
Q. For the 1965-66 school year you have taken no steps?
A. We are developing a plan and this plan is not yet to
the point where we know what it is going to be ourselves.
Q. You did not follow it for this school year? A. No,
the plan was not in operation. In fact, it hadn’t been
thought of.
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(Letter of April 30, 1965 marked Plaintiff’s Ex-
' hibit #7.)
Q. Mr. Adams, did you write a letter to Mrs. Wall ad
vising her that she would not be retained in the system for
this school year? A. No.
No further questions.
Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. Now Mr. Adams, with regard to Plaintiff’s Exhibit
#3 entitled ‘Teachers who are employed for 1965 and not
employed for 1964’, you have set out all of the teachers
and you have done the same with regard to Plaintiff’s Ex
hibit #4 entitled ‘teachers who taught in 1964-65 who did
not return in 1965-66.’ Mr. Chambers asked if you could
tell by race the teachers listed on these two exhibits and
your answer was ‘no’. Why could you not tell? A. We
keep no file or record on these folks by race at all.
Q. Now he has requested in his subpoena, and you have
furnished, a list of all the schools in Stanly County and
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the number of people enrolled by race. This is Plaintiff’s
Exhibit #5, and in this exhibit you have stated the schools,
the number of whites and colored pupils in each school.
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How did you determine this? A. By actual head count.
We had to go to each school and count heads to see what
the number was.
Q. I take it this means there is no record kept by the
School Board or in the schools by race? A. That’s correct.
Q. Mr. Adams, how does the School Board hire teachers
in Stanly County? A. The School Board has set up pro
cedures whereby advisory councils and principals play a
part in the performance of teachers. The principal recom
mends or nominates the teacher to the Board of Education
and the Board of Education approves.
Q. Is this procedure established by rule of the School
Board or by state law ? A. Both. The rules and regula
tions that—ask me your question again.
Q. Does the procedure you have outlined whereby ad-
visoiy committees recommend and principals recommend
to the School Board, teachers for hire—is this practice
established by rule of the Stanly County Board or by state
law? A. It’s established by the Stanly County Board of
Education under the state law.
Q. Then do I understand that this practice is the practice
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as is promulgated by state law? A. Yes.
Q. The Stanly County School Board or you as superin
tendent, rely solely upon the recommendation of the vari
ous principals as to who will be hired? A. Yes.
Q. Do you give to them free rein as to who they so
recommend? A. Yes.
Q. Do you accept their recommendations? A. Yes.
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Q. Do you know of any case where you have not accepted
any recommendation since you have been here? A. No.
Q. Have you sent forth any criteria to the various prin
cipals or any requirements with regard to teachers that
they shall hire? A. We have said this—that we want our
principals to hire teachers with A certificates or better if
possible. We seek that qualification. Of course we don’t
reach it all the time but basically we try to hire teachers
who are holders of A certificates if possible.
Q. This is the only requirement? A. Yes.
Q. Now Mr. Chambers referred to assignment of teach
ers by the School Board. Do you in fact assign these
teachers or do you assign a number of teachers per school?
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A. We assign only a number of teachers per school by the
Board.
Q. And that number is filled by the principal? A. That’s
correct.
Q. You stated that the allotment for teachers for the
1965-66 school year was made June 25, 1965. Is this cor
rect or were you talking from memory then? A. I think
that’s correct.
Q. Can you substantiate that date? A. June 25th, yes.
Here it is. (Witness points to Plaintiff’s Exhibit #2.)
Q. Now in those schools—I believe you testified there
were white and colored schools that lost teachers this year?
A. Yes.
Q. Who determined what teachers would not be retained?
A. The principals of the schools involved.
Q. You stated that the Board approved the recommenda
tion of the principals for teachers during the 1965-66 year
prior to the time the allotment was made, is this correct?
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A. I think we better refer to the minutes on that, hut I
think that is correct.
Q. After the allotment was made, was there any change
in the number of teachers that you previously approved?
A. Only those that had decided to resign in the meantime;
that signified the desire not to return for some reason or
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other. Of course those changes were made and any new
ones that were employed in the meantime were added to
the list.
Q. With regard to the files or records of teachers that
you keep here in the office or that the Stanly County Board
of Education has, let’s take a teacher presently employed—
what record would you have of a presently employed
teacher? A. Basically this—we would have her applica
tion on file that she filled out when she applied for work
in the system, if it came here. If it came to a principal,
there’s a possibility this might he in the principal’s office,
hut basically we keep the application and three written
references from people that were given as references that
returned them to us. Then we keep the usual required forms
such as social security forms, you know, the tax forms that
are necessary for payroll purposes. We keep, of course,
her or his teaching certificate on file. Basically administra
tive detailed items that we have to have is generally what
we have.
Q. When a teacher leaves the employment of the Stanly
County Board, what records if any do you have of the
teacher who departed from employment? A. The only
record we have at the present time is a record that she
was employed here. We maintain no active file on personnel
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ticularly, generally we are contacted and asked to send
what information we have on that teacher to the respective
superintendent of that unit and we transfer then what
information we have to that unit.
Q. By ‘transfer’ do you mean a physical transfer of the
actual records? A. No, generally it amounts to a form
calling for the certificate number and the number of years
they were employed here, the sick leave record, which is a
cumulative thing, etc. This travels with the teacher
wherever they work.
Q. Do you have any record of that yourself after the
teacher has departed? A. No, we have no need for it.
Q. Mr. Chambers read to you a paragraph of your plan
of the freedom of choice plan you refer to and stated in
the plan that the School Board recognized that there would
have to be an integration of faculty. Would you state
what if any steps this School Board or you as superin
tendent, are presently working out to assure that person
nel will be hired on a basis other than race? A. Yes. We
have in the process now and are developing a plan and
have to a point developed it, to a point where we think we
are going to have some guide lines with some forms set up
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whereby we will follow these forms and procedures in
employing teachers in the future and these forms will call
for things such as the various qualifications of the teachers,
some of them tangible, some of them intangible. As I said
earlier, we haven’t gotten far enough along with it, where
the Board has developed it but we are along with it where
we are setting up guide lines where we expect our princi
pals will continue to do this or the personnel director, or
whoever it might be, will have some guide lines to follow.
These guide lines will contain various questions and will
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seek out certain information such as national teacher exam
ination scores, their certification, their references, and all
this sort of thing that goes—that we can gather to help
us judge, and this is a judgment matter, who is the best
qualified to teach in our system.
Q. And these qualifications under your plan will be
based on considerations other than race? A. Entirely.
Q. When do you expect to have this plan formulated?
A. We think some time within the year—this school year—
we are hopeful that the plan will develop along far enough
to where, as we stated in our plan of compliance, we can
put it into effect no later than the 1966-67 school year.
Q. Mr. Adams, do you know the plaintiff Mrs. Audrey
Gfillis Wall? A. I have met her on one or two occasions
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and I have been in her classroom.
Q. How long have you known her? A. I have known of
her for approximately two and a half years.
Q. During that time have you had any problems with
her? A. Personally, no.
Q. Professionally? A. Only those which the principal
has discussed with me.
Q. What were those? First let me ask what principal?
A. In particular Mr. McLendon because she has taught at
this school the two years I have been here.
Q. Any other principals that you discussed it with? A.
Mr. Hines has talked with me about her and Mr. Baxter
Williams has discussed her with me.
Q. Who is Mr. Baxter Williams? A. Principal of the
Kingville School.
Q. What system is that school in? A. Albemarle city,
and I also discussed her with the personnel in the Albe
marle city superintendent’s office.
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Q. Has Mrs. Wall ever taught under Mr. Williams? A.
I think so, yes, at Oakboro.
Q. What did Principal McLendon complain to you about,
about Mrs. Wall, do you recall? A. Basically just that
she wasn’t co-operative generally and that he had difficulty
convincing her that he was running the school. It seemed
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like that was what she wanted to do was to run the school.
Q. When did he first complain to you? A. I’m just
guessing now, but the first year I was in the county which
was 1963-64, I visited at the Lakeview School and that was
the first year Mr. McLendon was there and I commented
on the fact that I thought the school was being run fine
and asked a few other questions and he said he was get
ting along well but was having a little misunderstanding
with one of his teachers and I said—‘Who is it” ? and he
said—“Mrs. Wall” and I said—“Is there anything too diffi
cult you can’t handle at this point” ? and he said—“No, I
don’t think so”. That was the first time we had any indi
cation there might be any feeling—
Q. Did he complain to you after this time about Mrs.
Wall? A. No, not again until—there was some doubt in
his mind about re-electing her at the end of the first year
that he was principal there.
Q. What year was that? A. The end of the 1963-64
school year and I suggested to him that he discuss this
with his local school committee but he was very reluctant
to re-elect her for some reason or other at the end of that
first year and I felt like people locally would know her
much better than I and I having been in the county only
six or eight months at the time, suggested that he rely
heavily on his local people.
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Q. At any time did yon enter into the decision whether
to recommend or not recommend her? A. No.
Q. Now, daring the 1964-65 year did Mr. McLendon com
plain to you about Mrs. Wall? A. The only time I can
remember—there may be other times but I just have to
guess because it’s a big system as you know and we have
a lot of problems—but the only thing I can recall he
having specifically said to me, and he did this in the office
one day when he came through here for some other pur
pose, was that he was having some difficulty in getting her
to take her children to the cafeteria and supervising her
children during the lunch period, and that he had asked
her to do it and she just wouldn’t do it; she just refused,
and he wanted to know what he must do about it and I
told him to try to work with her and try to help her and
try to understand the problem and her and that sort of
thing and hoped he could get along alright.
Q. Were these complaints made to you orally or in writ
ing? A. Orally.
Q. Did you ever receive any written complaint? A. No.
Q. All of them were oral? A. We have very few com
plaints. I am speaking now from the total population.
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Q. I am talking about complaints about Mrs. Wall. A.
Nothing was in writing, no.
Q. When did you learn that there would be a reduction
in the teacher allotment at Lakeview? A. Well, we actu
ally didn’t know what would happen until we knew where
the children were going to be and this began to develop
after the freedom of choice proposition became known and
it was after May 15th that these forms were due in, or on
the 15th, and then it was probably, I am guessing now,
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probably late May or early June before we were able to
in any way get them compiled to see where we stood and
just how many children had requested which school, etc.
so it’s hard to say.
Q. Well, you knew by June 25th? A. Yes. Things be
gan to shape up and we knew pretty well by then by taking
this year’s average daily attendance up through the sev
enth month, taking the best six months out of the first
seven, coupled with transfers between schools and between
administrative units, coupled with the first grade factor
coming into the school and the eighth grade factor gradu
ating into high school and the twelfth grade graduating
out, we were pretty well able to determine how many chil
dren would be in each school.
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Q. What was the teacher reduction at Lakeview for the
1965-66 year? A. Three.
Q. Do I understand there were three less teachers al-
loted for the 1965-66 year than the 1964-65 year? A. That’s
true.
Q. And you transmitted this information to the princi
pal? A. Yes.
Q. Who made the decision as to what teachers would
not be retained? A. The principals of the schools involved.
Q. Did the principal then transmit this information to
you? A. The principal transmitted the only information
to me—was the names of the teachers he recommended for
re-employment.
Q. When was this, do you know? A. I’m thinking now
in terms of all the principals and these recommendations
come in sporadically whenever they happen to come to town
generally but they come as they know in the term who they
want back and who they want to recommend and who they
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have had time to discuss perhaps with some of their ad
visory council and as soon as they are satisfied, they come
up here and leave their contract with us.
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Q. Do you know the approximate date Mr. McLendon
advised you who he was recommending for employment?
A. No, I have no idea.
Q. Was it, would you say, more than a week after June
25, 1965? The date you advised him of his allotment? A.
I put those in the mail somewhere around the 25th or 26th
possibly I presume and I believe he notified me within
three weeks.
Q. Within three weeks from June 25th? A. Yes, who
he wanted to recommend.
Q. Did he recommend Mrs. Wall? A. No.
Q. Did he recommend any other teachers that worked
for him during the 1964-65 year? A. Yes.
Q. How many of the six did he recommend?
Mr. Chambers: What six?
Q. As I understand it, he was allocated six teachers for
the 1965-66 year. How many of those six teachers that he
recommended for that year, worked for him the prior year?
A. I don’t know, Mr. Doby. I have—
Q. Did Mr. McLendon hire any additional personnel
down there that was not with him in the 1964-65 year ? A.
It’s difficult for me to know. I would have to go back to
the records because I am not familiar with these people; I
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don’t know them actually. Some of them I see only once a
year; I don’t come in contact with them.
Q. After Mr. McLendon made his recommendation as to
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the teachers that he desired, did yon after that time talk
with Mrs. Wall! A. Yes. Mrs. Wall called me and she
called the office here one day when I wasn’t here and called
and asked if I knew of any vacancies in the county and if
I would, to help her get another job.
Q. What did you tell her? A. I told her at that time
I didn’t know of any vacancies in the county other than
West Badin and Richfield and there may be others but I
would suggest she contact the principals of the schools.
Q. West Badin school is a colored school? A. Yes.
Q. How about Richfield school? A. That’s a white
school.
Q. You say you had also discussed her with Mr. Hines,
the principal at West Badin. Will you state whether or
not after Mrs. Wall called you asking your help in relo
cating her, you talked with Mr. Hines about hiring her out
at West Badin? A. Yes, that’s correct.
Q. You did talk with Mr. Hines? A. Yes.
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Q. What was Mr. Hines’ reaction to this? A. Very
negative. He said—“Mr. Adams, please don’t pull rank on
me and make me take her.” That basically were his words.
Q. And prior to this time, did you talk with Mr. Hines
about Mrs. Wall, prior to the time you asked him to help?
A. No, I don’t recall if I did.
Q. Do you know Mrs. Wall’s reputation among school
people in this county? A. Only what I have heard in the
last two and a half years talking with principals that I
mentioned a moment ago; Mr. Williams and Mr. Hines and
Mr. McLendon and in talking with personnel in the super
intendent’s office and the city administrative unit. I gath
ered from what—
Q. The question is—do you know her reputation among
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school people? A. I was going to say ‘y es’ from what I
know. I don’t know whether it is correct or not hut from
what I understand she is—
Q. Do you know her reputation? A. Yes.
Q. What is that reputation?
Mr. Chambers: Objection.
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A. Her reputation among school people is very poor. Now
I think many of them will tell you that she has excellent
approach in the classroom at times but the true welfare
and wholesomeness of the total school program deteriorates
when she is in the school.
Q. What did Mr. Williams, the principal of the King-
ville School, state about Mrs. Wall?
Mr. Chambers: Objection.
(No answer by witness)
Q. Has this Board on its own made any decision as to
whether or not Mrs. Wall will be hired or not? A. No.
I want to inject this in the record in regard to the one
question you raised a moment ago Mr. Doby, in regards
to her reputation. This is something that develops over
the years of course, and I think her employment record
speaks for itself; that she has worked in the county about
12 or 13 years and has been employed in about six or seven
different schools, five or six, I don’t know how many, but
anyway I think her employment record speaks for itself
there and needs no further comment.
Q. Now, insofar as Mrs. Wall is concerned, have you
deviated from your stated policy of following the princi
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pal’s recommendation for hiring, insofar as she is con
cerned? A. No.
Q. Is it my understanding that she has been, in this re-
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spect, treated as all other teachers in the system have been
treated? A. Absolutely.
Q. When a teacher is hired in this system, for what
period of time do you hire them? A. One year.
Q. Is there any such thing as seniority or tenure of office
or job under this arrangement? A. None whatsoever.
Q. Do you hire all teachers each year for a period of one
year? A. Yes.
Q. Does this contract terminate at the end of the year?
A. Yes.
Q. Is there any arrangement or does the Board have any
policy of giving notice to the teachers in your system of
the termination of the contract? A. No. The contracts
are signed for one year and terminate themselves.
Q. Mr. Adams, during the 1964-65 year I believe that the
Board, did it not, had a policy whereby any child that
wanted to be re-assigned could make a request for re
assignment? A. Yes.
Q. And you in fact received some requests for re
assignment? A. Yes.
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Q. And you made those re-assignments in accordance
with the requests? A. Yes.
Q. Now you stated on direct examination that during the
early stages of trying to implement this freedom of choice
plan, that you had, that you sent letters to the parents by
way of the children requesting the parents and the child
to indicate the school that the child would like to attend
for the 1965-66 year and you stated that after some diffi
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culty you secured this request from all excepting about 15
students? A. Yes.
Q. And you were not able to get statements from approxi
mately 15 children? A. That’s correct.
Q. And you said that the Board on its own assigned
these 15 children to the New London and Richfield Schools?
A. That’s correct. There may be a scattered one some
where else, I don’t know.
Q. But the majority of the 15? A. Yes.
Q. And the majority of those 15 were colored students?
A. Yes.
Q. And the Richfield and New London Schools are pre-
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dominantly white schools? A. Yes.
That is all.
Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mr. Adams, do you have in your possession a copy of
the minutes of the Board of Education for the meeting of
June 7, 1965? A. Yes.
Q. May I have that copy?
(Mr. Chambers looks at copy of minutes)
Q. You stated a moment ago that you kept no record by
race. You were referring to students? That was on cross-
examination by Mr. Doby, for this year? A. For this year,
that’s right.
Q. You do know the race of your teachers in the system.
You know that you have negroes at Lakeview and negroes
at West Badin? A. Yes we do.
Q. Do your files in the office here—do they indicate the
race of the teachers? A. No.
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Q. They do not? A. No.
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Q. How do yon know you have negro teachers at West
Badin for this school year? A. We have no way of know
ing unless we go over there and look.
Q. Would you know if the superintendent of West Badin
recommended a white teacher for the school? A. We have
no way of knowing.
Q. Do you know the principal did not recommend a white
teacher? A. I don’t know. We employ only those he rec
ommends.
Q. You know of your own knowledge, however, that none
of those teachers there are white? A. Yes.
Q. And the same thing with respect to Lakeview? A.
Yes. I presume they are. I haven’t been to either school
since the school opened to see, but I presume they are.
Q. You stated that the Board and you relied solely upon
the recommendation of the principal for the teacher? A.
Yes.
Q. Isn’t it true when you said a moment ago that Mr.
Hines, in reference to a conversation you had with him
with respect to Mrs. Wall, indicated in his statement that
you could, in fact, hire a teacher he did not recommend?
A. He insinuated that I might compel him to do it.
Q. It is possible for you to— A. I haven’t explored that
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possibility, never have.
Q. Isn’t it possible for you and the Board to employ a
teacher? A. No, under no circumstances.
Q. The state law doesn’t prevent you from doing it,
does it? A. Yes, it sets up procedure whereby we employ
teachers.
Q. For this school year? A. Yes.
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Q. I thought you stated on direct a moment ago that the
state law had been changed so that now the advisory coun
cil serves only a perfunctory service? A. That’s true, but
the principal still must recommend.
Q. He just recommends? A. Yes, I cannot recommend.
Q. Under the state law today you cannot recommend?
A. No sir and neither can the School Board, and this works
this way too, and neither can the local school committees
as we used to operate. They cannot nominate or recommend
a teacher to the principal. Only the principal has that
responsibility.
Q. Doesn’t the state law state that where the principal
is unable to agree upon a teacher, the superintendent can
recommend, or the Board? A. The Board of Education
can fill the position.
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Q. Without recommendation from the principal? A. If
there is conflict between the two, yes.
Q. And that was the law in 1964-65? A. Yes.
Q. And today the Board in this situation, can appoint a
teacher even though not recommended by the principal of
the school? A. Theoretically, yes.
Q. Under the law?
Mr. Williams: Objection. I don’t think he is quali
fied in the law.
Mr. Chambers: I withdraw the question.
Q. It is your testimony is it, that after you receive the
allotment of teachers and made the determination of allot
ment to the particular school, you left the matter entirely
up to the principal of the school to determine which teach
ers to retain and which teachers not to retain? A. Yes.
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Q. And the principal made this determination solely from
his staff? A. Yes, I presume so. I cannot speak for him.
Q. Yon stated in reference to questions by Mr. Doby,
that you were in the process of developing a plan to em
ploy teachers in the future on a non-racial basis. You
have not begun to implement this plan? A. No. We are
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implementing it to this extent—that we are in the process
of developing it and we have developed some guide lines,
some ideas and some procedures that we think are good,
that the Board of Education has not seen as yet. But they
are in the process and will be put into effect, yes.
Q. So you anticipate you say, putting this into effect in
1966? A. And 1967, yes.
Q. Now you stated that at the end of the school year
1963-64, you operated under the plan that permitted stu
dents to request re-assignment? A. Yes.
Q. And that two negro students requested re-assignment?
A. Yes.
Q. Did the Board at any time direct you to give notice
to parents in the community that negro students could re
quest re-assignment? A. No, this was just general knowl
edge.
Q. And you did not public any notice or given notice out
to the individual parents that students could request such
re-assignment? A. This has been a practice for years;
there was no need for it.
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Q. You had never to your knowledge, published or dis
tributed such notice? A. No, not in the two years I have
been here.
Q. Going to the minutes of the Board of June 7th, I ask
you if this is a true copy of the minutes of the Board for
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June 7, 1965? A. Yes, that’s a true copy; that hasn’t been
typed in the book.
Mr. Chambers: Would counsel for the defendant
stipulate that we might introduce that as Plaintiff’s
Exhibit #8 and substitute a copy for the original?
Mr. Williams: Yes.
(Copy of minutes of the Board for June 7, 1965
marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit #8.)
Q. I show you a copy of some reference to resignations
to be approved and contracts to be approved dated July 7,
1965 and ask you what is that? A. This is resignations
and contracts which were approved on July 7, 1965.
Q. That would be contracts approved? A. Contracts and
resignations.
Q. Would the latter sub-section or section dealing with
contracts approved dated July 7, 1965, be the contracts
approved on that date? A. Yes.
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Q. Is that an official copy of the minutes of the Board of
Education? A. This is, yes.
Mr. Chambers: We would like to tender that in
evidence and substitute in lieu of it a photostatic
copy of the original and mark it Plaintiff’s Exhibit
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(Copy of Resignations to be approved and Con
tracts to be approved dated July 7, 1965,
marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit #9.)
Q. I show you a list of names included in the minutes of
the Board of Education for June 7th and ask you to read
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the names of the contracts approved for Lakeview School.
A. Mary S. Winfield, Audrey G. Wall, Geraldine Robinson
Taylor, Melvin Joe Rush, Wanda W. Cogdell and Fannie
F. Coley.
Q. Yon say that there is no tenure in your school system;
that teachers are hired for one year period. I ask you
what procedure teachers follow in seeking and gaining
employment for the following school term? A. They sig
nify their desires to the principal, either mid-year or mid
way of the Spring, what their desires are. Many times
they know at Christmas they are going somewhere else so
he can look for someone else. Generally they speak their
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intentions to him and then from that point on he takes it
and if he is satisfied with the present staff, he will recom
mend them either wholeheartedly or indifferently, or what.
Q. Isn’t it true that the principal at the Lakeview School
received indications from the teachers that they would like
to he retained for the 1965-66 school year and in fact sub
mitted recommendations for these teachers before you indi
cated the teacher allotment? A. Yes, I think many of them
that knew of their desire and wanted to come back, indi
cated it to him.
Q. And this would include the individual plaintiff listed
here, Audrey Wall? A. Yes.
Q. And this is all that’s required of teachers in order
for their application for re-employment to be considered
by the School Board for the following school year? A.
Yes, that’s correct, except in the case of initial employ
ment where they fill out an application, actually fill out an
application which we furnish here in the office.
Q. And only in the case of original employment they fill
out an application here in the office? A. Yes.
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Q. And the superintendent picks this application up here ?
A. No, the application form is furnished out of the office
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here to the principals who in turn ask the teacher to fill
it out. It just calls for information we need by way of
certification and teaching experience. Once we have that
on file, it’s not necessary for us to do it year in and year
out.
Q. And after the principal receives the application from
the teacher, he either recommends or not recommends the
teacher? A. That’s correct.
Q. Now did you, or has the Board directed or advised
the negro principals in the school system that they could
consider white teachers for employment in the school sys
tem? A. Our Board hasn’t advised them in any manner
in that regard.
Q. They did not send a directive to the negro principals
advising them that they could? A. No.
Q. Did it send a directive to white principals advising
them they could consider negro teachers for employment
in their schools? A. No.
No further questions.
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Re-Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. Mr. Adams, following the recommendation of a prin
cipal as to the hiring of a teacher, has the Board ever in
fact, compelled a principal to hire someone other than a
person who he has recommended? A. No.
Q. With regard to the implementation of the plan to
determine the qualification of teachers, will you state
whether or not the Board has instructed you to proceed
with this program? A. Yes.
Q. Are you, in fact, doing so? A. Yes.
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(Discussion off the record about implementing.)
That is all.
Re-Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. When you say the Board has directed you to imple
ment this provision regarding non-racial assignments for
employment of teachers, you mean, do you not, you are
presently drafting a procedure to be followed? A. Yes,
we have got right deeply into that.
Q. The procedures you have adopted or are drawing up,
you stated earlier have not been approved yet by the Board?
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A. That’s right.
Q. So they haven’t been actually instituted yet? A. No.
No further questions.
Re-Re-Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. They haven’t been approved by the Board for the
reason the Board doesn’t have anything to approve as yet?
A. That’s right.
Q. But they have directed you to bring to them a plan
of implementation? A. Yes, and we have the plan here
in the folder but the Board hasn’t officially done anything
on it so I can’t say anything officially about it.
Q. When did you complete that work? A. I guess a
week or ten days ago.
Q. Has the Board had a meeting since that time? A.
No.
That is all.
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Re-Re-Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mr. Adams, I show you a form here entitled ‘Con
tract for Instructional Service’ and ask you if this is a
contract that is executed by the teachers in the school
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system for the 1965-66 school year? A. That’s correct.
Q. Now, what is meant by this ‘special conditions’ in
these blanks down here? A. Several things. For instance
by way of explanation, we employ a young girl the prin
cipal recommended out at Millingport School who had
less than two years of college and we write in there then
that this person is employed until such time as we can
find someone qualified to replace her, whether its one
week or one year. That would be one special condition or
you could have others. Some people come into the system
that you know they are going to be with you only one
year or half a year and they like that written into their
contract that they can be dismissed say in half a year
or at the end of the first semester or something like
that, or any other conditions that might prevail locally
that would be worth noting in a contract.
Q. Now in this contract, there is no specific reference
to the school in which the teacher is to teach, is that cor
rect? A. That’s right.
Q. A teacher is employed then under a contract that
would permit her being assigned to any school in the
school system? A. That’s right.
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Q. Who signs this contract? A. The Secretary to the
Board of Education and the teacher involved.
Q. Now, what is meant by that provision in the last
paragraph preceding the special conditions—that assign
ments will be made by the superintendent of schools? A.
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I understand it means when we receive the teacher allot
ment we will make the allotment of the teachers to the
respective schools. I say that in terms of the number of
teachers will be allocated to a certain school; we assign a
certain number to that school.
Q. The contract will permit you to assign any individual
teacher to that school? A. I presume so but we don’t do
it that way. We assign only a specific number of teachers
to a particular school without regard to race or color.
Q. But the contract would permit you to assign the
teacher to any school? A. I don’t know about that.
Mr. Chambers: We would like to introduce the
Contract for Instructional Service as Plaintiff’s Ex-
hibhit #10.
(Contract marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit #10.)
No further questions.
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Re-Re-Re-Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. This contract is not presented to the teachers for
signature until after their employment has been recom
mended in a particular school by the principal? A. That’s
correct.
Q. And while there is reference to assignment will
be made by the superintendent of schools in the contract,
is it not your policy in fact, that before the contract is
executed in the policy you follow, the particular teacher
has already been assigned and that he has been recom
mended to you by the principal of a particular school? A.
That’s correct. I would not have one principal recommend
ing a teacher to another school.
Q. Have you ever pursued a practice of employing teach
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ers without having a recommendation from a principal for
hiring in a particular school? A. No.
Q. It is not your practice then as I understand it, with
out reference to schools, to go out and hire or sign con
tracts with all the teachers that you have been alloted and
then you make the assignment? That is not your practice,
is it? A. No, absolutely not.
Q. And if and when a contract is signed by a particular
person, that person knows the school they will be teaching
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in? A. That’s right.
That is all.
Re-Re-Re-Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. This contract does not state the school the person
will be teaching in? A. No.
Q. Isn’t it true under the new law passed by the legisla
ture, teachers were—this was a change in the contract?
A. Yes.
Q. The former contract did indicate the school to which
the teacher would be assigned? A. Yes.
Q. The new law provides for a change so a teacher can
be assigned to any school in the school system, isn’t that
correct? A. Yes.
No further questions.
Re-Re-Re-Re-Cross-Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. Notwithstanding that a person can be assigned to a
school, all contracts signed with this Board, the teacher
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has known at the time of the signing where she will teach ?
A. That’s correct. This is done on the basis of the recom
mendation of the principal of that particular school.
That is all.
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Reece B. M cSw a in , having been first duly sworn, testified
as follows:
Direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Would you state your name please? A. Reece B.
McSwain.
Q. Are you presently a member of the Stanly County
Board of Education? A. Right.
Q. Are you presently Chairman of the Board? A.
Right.
Q. How long have you been in that position as Chairman?
A. Since the Board meeting of April two years ago this
coming April. The Board meeting will be three years.
Q. Would that be April, 1963? A. Yes.
Q. Were you on the Board prior to that? A. Yes.
Q. How long had you been on the Board before you be
came Chairman? A. Ten years.
Q. Now Mr. McSwain, during the period you have been
on the Board up until the 1964-65 school year, was it the
policy of the Board to assign or employ teachers on the
basis of the race of the teacher and the race of the students
attending a particular school? A. It was based on state
law.
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Q. In effect, you had negro teachers in negro schools and
white teachers in white schools? A. That’s correct.
Q. Up until 1964-65 with the exception of North Stanly,
where two negro students transferred, was it not true that
all negro students attended all negro schools and all white
students attended all white schools? A. That’s right.
Q. At the end of the 1964-65 school year or during the
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1964-65 school year, is it true that the Board adopted a plan
providing for freedom of choice for students to indicate
the schools they would like to attend? A. That came in—
we followed the law and I believe that came in with the
Pearsall Plan in 1954.
Q. The plan I am referring to is the one you submitted
to the Department of Health, Education and Welfare. A.
That was this past summer; that was 1965.
Q. During the summer of 1965? A. Yes.
Q. Now you made some reference to the Pearsall Plan.
Are you stating that the Board followed the Pearsall Plan
with respect to assignment of students? A. We followed
the state law which was the Pearsall Plan.
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Q. This provided, did it not, for the initial assignment
of students back to the school they attended the previous
year and if they desired to go to another school they could
request transfer pursuant to the provisions of the Pearsall
Plan? A. That’s right.
Q. Now, going to your plan of 1965, is it true that this is
the only alteration you made in the method for assigning
students to the schools with the exception of the Pearsall
Plan? A. Ask that again.
Q. Is it true the plan you adopted in 1965 is the only
change you have made with respect to assignment of stu
dents in a school, with the exception of the North Carolina
Pearsall Plan? A. That’s right.
Q. Now, what alteration if any, did you make for assign
ing teachers to the schools? A. That comes under the law
too, in that your teachers are alloted according to schools
from the State Department as stated in the law.
Q. You made no change, did you, in the method for as
signing teachers? A. No.
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Q. And this year you have adopted a provision providing
for non-racial employment and assigning of teachers be
ginning at least in 1966-67? A. Yes, that’s stated in the
plan of compliance.
Q. To your knowledge, you have not yet implemented this
plan, is that correct? A. No, it has not been implemented.
Our compliance was not approved until after the teacher
allotment and all came out. That is something that will have
to be taken into consideration. I believe our compliance
was approved in July or the first of August. It was not
approved in Washington. I guess you would say the ma
chinery for 1965-66 was already set.
Q. Before your approval by the Department of Health,
Education and Welfare? A. That’s right.
Q. Did the Board to your knowledge, adopt any specific
procedure to be followed to govern assignment of teachers
because of shifting enrollment in students pursuant to the
freedom of choice plan you adopted in 1965? A. I don’t
believe I understand what you are saying.
Q. Did you have any negro students or white students
to request choice of schools pursuant to your freedom of
choice plan? A. Yes. All of these assignments and all were
made before—the majority of them were made before April
15th.
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Q. Did the Board adopt any specific provisions to govern
assignment of teachers because of the shifting enrollment of
the students in the particular school who transferred pur
suant to your freedom of choice plan? A. No.
Q. Did the Board approve of the allotment to the various
schools adopted by the superintendent? A. Yes.
Q. Did the Board approve of the teachers recommended
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by the principals and superintendent to the various schools ?
A. Yes, we approved the list intact that was sent to us.
Q. Did the Board know of the negro teachers or others
who might have lost their jobs because of reduction in the
allotment of teachers to the particular schools? A. We
only knew the names presented to us for approval.
Q. Did the Board make any specific inquiry as to the
reaction if any, of teachers not recommended by principals ?
A. No, that was up to the principals.
Q. Is it your understanding Mr. McSwain, that the Board
of Education has the final authority about the employment
of teachers? A. Yes.
Q. You can reject or accept a teacher that might be rec
ommended by an administrative office of the School Board?
A. No, we can approve.
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Q- Or disapprove? A. Wait a minute. We can—let’s
go back here—its got to start with the principal.
Q. My question is—is it within the authority of the school
Board to either approve or disapprove of the person who
might be recommended by the principal? A. Yes, we can
approve or disapprove.
Q. And is it your policy that the superintendent might
also approve or disapprove of the person who might be
recommended by the principal? A. That’s right.
Q. So the final authority would vest in the School Board
to either approve or disapprove, is that correct? A. Of
the list of the teachers that is presented to them but if a
teacher is not approved by the principal and the superin
tendent, that name never comes before the Board of Educa
tion.
Q. It would never come before the Board of Education?
A. That’s right.
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Q. This would be true with respect to employment of the
teacher in the school system? A. Yes.
Q. Isn’t it true that under the present law of North Caro
lina a teacher executes a contract to teach in any school in
the school system? A. I don’t know.
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No further questions.
Cross Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. With regard to approving or disapproving the list of
teachers recommended by the superintendent who, in turn,
receives the recommendation from the principal, has the
Board ever, in fact, disapproved any teacher that a princi
pal has recommended? A. Not in the last twelve years.
Q. How long have you been on the Board? A. Twelve
years.
Q. Is it my understanding that the Board, during the
twelve years that you have been a member, have always ac
cepted the recommendation of the principal in the hiring of
teachers? A. That’s right.
That is all.
Re-direct Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Has the Board to your knowledge, at any time during
the twelve years you have been a member, adopted a resolu
tion or any directive advising the principals of the school
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system that they can employ or assign teachers to the vari
ous schools without regard to their race? A. No. They
have all been furnished copies of the law.
Q. But there was no resolution passed by the Board to
your knowledge? A. No.
That is all.
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Deposition of Reece B. McSwain
Recross Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. On the contrary, has the Board ever adopted a reso
lution or taken any official recommendation requiring a
principal to hire one of his own race? A. No.
That is all.
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A udrey Gillis W all, having been first duly sworn, tes
tified as follows:
Direct Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. You are Mrs. Audrey Gillis Wall? A. That’s cor
rect.
Q. And you are the plaintiff in this matter, one of the
plaintiffs? A. Yes I am.
Q. Mrs. Wall, where do you live? A. 3115 Clearview
Drive, Charlotte.
Q. How long have you been living there? A. Since
November.
Q. November of 1965? A. That’s correct.
Q. I believe you are a school teacher? A. Yes I am.
Q. What schools or colleges did you attend to prepare
yourself? A. I did undergraduate work at Barber Scotia
College in Concord and graduate work at A. & T. College
in Greensboro and I had an in-service course at Appala
chian.
Q. When did you graduate from Barber Scotia? A. ’51.
Q. What field did you—what was your major? A. Ele
mentary education.
Q. What degree if any, did you get? A. A. B.
Q. What years did you attend A. & T.? A. I graduated
in 1958 from A. & T.
Q. What degree, if any did you get? A. M. S.
Q. In what? A. Elementary education.
Q. How many years have you been teaching? A. I com
pleted thirteen years.
Q. Where have you taught? A. Most of my experience
has been in Stanly County.
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Q. Have you taught any place but Stanly County! A.
This is my first year outside Stanly County.
Q. Where are you presently teaching! A. Oaklawn Ele
mentary School, Charlotte.
Q. What grade are you teaching! A. Third grade.
Q. What size school is Oaklawn School! A. We have
grades one through six.
Q. How many pupils do you have in the whole school!
A. I am not sure; near 700 I would say.
Q. Do you know how many teachers you have! A. Ap-
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proximately 25, excluding our special teachers.
Q. Who is your principal! A. Mrs. Sasso.
Q. Do you have any supervisors in the school there or
in the system! A. Yes, we have supervisors in all areas!
Q. Who are your supervisors! A. I haven’t met my im
mediate supervisors yet other than my principal.
Q. You do not know who they are! A. No, I do not.
Q. When did you first apply for employment in the
Charlotte school! A. I applied last year but I did not
follow through.
Q. By ‘last year’ you mean at the end of the 1963-64
year! A. 1964-65. This is 1965-66.
Q. You applied at the end of the 1964-65 year! A. Yes.
Q. For employment in the 1985-66 year! A. No. I guess
it was 1963-64 for the 1964-65 school year.
Q. In other words, you made application a year prior to
the time you were actually accepted! A. Yes. I did not
follow through on that.
Q. When did you make application again to them! A.
During this past summer of 1965.
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Q. The summer of ’65! A. Yes.
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Q. Do you recall the approximate date? A. I think it
was during July. I think during the month of July.
Q. July of 1965? A. Yes. I believe; Pm not quite sure.
Q. How many students did you say you have? A. I
have 28.
Q. Is this a system whereby you stay with these students
the entire day? You do not have different classes? A. No,
I am with the students during the entire day.
Q. What is your annual salary now? A. Well actually,
I haven’t noticed that too much. I think its around $6,000.00;
I’m not sure.
Q. In addition do you receive . . . A. I think its more;
I’m not sure.
Q. Do you know how much you receive from the State of
North Carolina under your certificate? A. I don’t even
know that. I haven’t noticed. I haven’t been too con
cerned with salary.
Q. I don’t believe I asked you—what type of certificate
do you hold now? A. I have an M. S. degree and it’s up
to date.
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Q. As I understand it, the State School Board issues cer
tificates on the basis of your educational qualifications.
What type teacher certificate do you have? A. It says—
“State Department of Public Instruction, Raleigh, N. C.”
It just gives my number and it says—“This is a permanent
number. It will appear on all certificates issued to you cor
responding with the division of professional services, State
Department of Public Instruction”. It just has a certificate
number.
Q. You stated that most of your teaching prior to your
employment in Charlotte, was in Stanly County? A. That’s
correct.
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Q. When did you first start teaching in Stanly County?
A. In 1952.
Q. What school was that? A. It was a small school at
New London.
Q. What grades did you teach? A. I had grades one
through four for a while and then grades one through
three after that.
Q. How long did you stay at New London? A. Three
years.
Q. When did you leave there—what year? A. At the
end of 1955. The school was consolidated with Kingville.
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Q. Where were you employed after the consolidation of
the New London school? A. At Kingville.
Q. Mrs. Wall, the New London school is in the Stanly
County system as I understand it? A. That’s correct.
Q. And the Kingville school is in the city system? A.
Yes.
Q. What grades did you teach at Kingville? A. First
grade.
Q. And your first year there was 1955? A. 1955-56 I
think, yes.
Q. How long did you stay at Kingville? A. Two years.
Q. At the end of what school year was it that you de
parted? A. At the end of ’57.
Q. Who was your principal at Kingville? A. Mr. E. E.
Waddell.
Q. After you left Kingville, where did you go to teach
if any place? A. South Oakboro Elementary School.
Q. What year was this? A. I think my first year there
was 1957-58.
Q. What grades did you teach there? A. Grades one
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Q. How long did you teach there? A. I taught there
two years.
Q. You left at the end of what school year, do you re
call? A. 1959-60 I believe was my first year with my new
job.
Q. Who was your principal at South Oakboro? A. Mr.
B. K. Williams.
Q. Is this the same Mr. B. K. Williams who is now prin
cipal at the Kingville School in the city of Albemarle? A.
That’s correct.
Q. The South Oakboro School is in what system? A.
The Stanly County system.
Q. You left as I understand it, at the end of the 1960
school year from 1959? A. I’m not sure. If you check
your date that I gave you.
Q. Do you recall the end of the school year that you left?
A. I think the end of ’59.
Q. Where did you go? A. West Badin.
Q. In what system is West Badin? A. The Stanly
County system.
Q. What grades did you teach there? A. My first year
there I taught a combination of third and fourth grades.
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Q. Who was your principal? A. Mr. G. L. Hines, and
of course, I taught first grade the next year.
Q. You stayed there how many years? A. Two years.
Q. After you left West Badin where did you go? A.
Lakeview Elementary School.
Q. What system is that in? A. Stanly County.
Q. What grades did you teach there? A. I taught first
grade a while and then third grade and my last year I
taught fourth grade.
Q. How many years did you stay there? A. Four.
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Q. Who were your principals? A. Mr. B. K. Williams
and Mr. R. E. McLendon.
Q. Is this the same Mr. B. K. Williams that was prin
cipal at the South Oakboro school? A. That’s correct.
Q. What system is the Lakeview school in? A. The
Stanly County system.
Q. When did you leave the Lakeview School? A. At the
end of the 1964-65 school year.
Q. Mrs. Wall, with regard to the employment at the
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New London school, do you recall who was the principal
there? A. Mr. J. R. Davis. There were just two of us.
Q. Why did you leave that school? A. It was consoli
dated with Kingville.
Q. Why did you leave your employment at the Kingville
school? A. A friendly agreement between the principal
and myself to exchange positions with another teacher at
South Oakboro. In other words, she came to Kingville and
I want to South Oakboro.
Q. And you just agreed with your principal to swap with
her? A. Yes, a mutual agreement.
Q. Who was this teacher? A. Mrs. Ruby Williams.
Q. Why did you leave the South Oakboro school? A.
At that time Mr. Williams had been offered a better posi
tion at Lakeview and during the same period a teacher
passed at West Badin and the principal asked me to accept
her job which I did.
Q. Mr. Williams did? A. No, Mr. Hines.
Q. Go ahead. A. Mr. Williams left Oakboro—he and I
were together there—to go to Lakeview, and Mr. Hines
lost a teacher through death that summer and he asked me
to accept her position.
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Q. At what school? A. West Badin, and I agreed.
Q. You stayed there at West Badin for two years? A.
Yes.
Q. Why did you leave your employment at West Badin?
A. Mr. Hines told me there was a decrease in enrollment
and he was losing a teacher.
Q. When did you first learn you were not going to be
re-employed at Lakeview? A. I believe that was during
the month of July, I am not sure.
Q. July of what year? A. 1965. July or August; Pm
not sure when those contracts were mailed.
Q. And at that time, July . . . A. I am not sure. It may
have been August.
Q. July or August? A. Yes.
Q. 1965? A. Yes.
Q. You learned that you were not to be re-hired at the
Lakeview school? A. Yes.
Q. Did you make any inquiry as to why you were not
being re-hired at that time? A. Yes I did.
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Q. To whom did you make inquiry? A. Mr. Adams the
superintendent.
Q. Mr. Adams, the superintendent of the Stanly County
School system? A. That’s correct.
Q. Do you recall about when that inquiry was made?
A. The same day that I got the letter, whatever date that
was.
Q. What did you ask of Mr. Adams? A. I asked him
why.
Q. What did Mr. Adams tell you? A. He said they were
losing a number of teachers, you know, due to decrease in
pupil enrollment.
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Q. Is that all he said? A. I don’t remember. We had
quite a long conversation and I asked why I was chosen
and he did not know that I was the one chosen to be dis
missed and he expressed a desire to help me to seek em
ployment in the system.
Q. Mr. Adams at that time expressed his desire to help
you find employment in the school system, the Stanly
County school system? A. That’s correct.
Q. Did he in fact, make any suggestions as to what you
should do to seek employment in this system? A. Yes he
did.
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Q. What were those suggestions? A. He told me about
the school up at Meisenheimer. They would need a teacher,
and he gave me the name of the principal and asked me to
call him.
Q. What was the name of the principal? A. I believe
Mr. Turner; I am not sure.
Q. The school he was referring to—was this an all white
or all colored school? A. All white.
Q. Did you contact the principal? A. Yes, I called him
the same day.
Q. What did the principal tell you? A. He told me that
he was considering a man because he needed someone to
coach for him and if he found that he could use me he would
be happy to recommend me for the job.
Q. Did you make any application any place else in the
county? A. Yes, I made application to all schools in the
county system.
Q. How were those applications made? A. In writing.
Q. Did you hear from any of the applications? A. I
think I heard from one; that was at Millingport.
Q. What did that answer tell you? A. It said they did
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not have any vacancies at that time. However, if they did,
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they would he happy to consider me.
Q. Millinport school is an all white or all colored school?
A. All white.
Q. After you made application in writing to the various
schools in the county, did you follow up on any of the ap
plications by request for a personal interview? A. That
was stated in the letter, that I would be happy to.
Q. Did you after mailing the letter, take any further
steps to try to secure an interview? A. No, I did not.
Q. In the past when you made applications for employ
ment at these other schools in Stanly County, to whom did
you make application? A. I sent the letters to the princi
pals and I sent a duplicate to the superintendent.
Q. To whom was this application made when you ap
plied for employment at New London, do you recall? A.
Yes, to the superintendent.
Q. Of the County schools? A. Yes.
Q. Who was he? A. Mr. Sifford.
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Q. To whom was the application made when you sought
employment at Kingville? A. Actually I did not apply
there because the teachers moved with the school.
Q. Did you make application prior to your employment at
South Oakboro? A. No.
Q. Did you make application prior to your employment
at West Badin? A. No, I was asked to go there.
Q. Did you make application prior to your employment
atLakeview? A. I believe I wrote a letter to Mr. Williams.
I’m not sure whether there was personal contact or by
letter.
Q. In each of these cases the principal, of course, recom
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mended you for employment? A. Well, the first case, New
London school did not have a principal at the time so I was
hired by—well, Mr. Culp was Chairman of the Board in
New London at the time. He called me so I was hired by
the Board.
Q. Mrs. Wall, in asking you about the schools you at
tended, you stated you attended Barber Scotia and gradu
ated in 1951? A. That’s correct.
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Q. How many years did you attend Barber Scotia prior to
graduating? A. I went to Junior College earlier. I gradu
ated in 1939. In the meantime I was married and had my
family.
Q. What Junior school was that? A. Barber Scotia.
Q. How many years prior to graduating in 1939 did you
go there? A. Two years.
Q. And then you returned to school in what year? A.
1950.
Q. And went for how many years? A. I went January,
1950 and then I went to summer school during that same
year which meant I was able to complete that two years in
a year and a half.
Q. Were you a day student? A. No, I lived in the
dormitory.
Q. Were you a day student when you attended Junior
college? A. One year and one year I was on the campus.
My home is in Concord.
Q. When you went to A. & T. College, how long did you
go there? A. I did my first renewal in 1955 and I attended
the following year.
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Q. By ‘renewal’, you mean renewing your teacher’s cer
tificate? A. For five years, yes, and then after that I de
cided to go on and complete my degree.
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Q. Renewal work then was not credited for work toward
yonr degree! A. Yes, because I immediately renewed my
studies.
Q. How long did you study for your degree! A. Until
1958.
Q. How many years was that! A. I would say approxi
mately two and a half to three years.
Q. Were you constantly enrolled in school for two and a
half years at A. & T.! A. Excluding the summer during
the school year.
Q. Were you a day student! A. Yes.
Q. And where did you stay! A. Night student actually,
because I taught during the day.
Q. You taught during the day! A. And I commuted.
Q. Where were you teaching then! A. In South Oak-
boro a while and Kingville a while.
Q. And you drove to Greensboro from Albemarle each
night! A. About two nights a week along with other
teachers in the system.
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Q. Then as I understand it, you attended night school at
A. & T. for a period of two and a half years! A. Yes.
Q. And you attended classes approximately two nights a
week! A. Yes.
Q. How many hours! A. Three hours per night.
Q. Back to your salary in the Charlotte system—how
much do you make per month! A. I believe it’s $605.00.
Q. Do you have any supplement on that! A. On that, no.
Q. This is your take-home pay! A. No, not take-home
pay; it’s before taxes.
Q. And before social security! A. Yes.
Q. $605.00 per month! A. Yes, I think.
Q. This is all! A. Yes.
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Q. Now the Charlotte School system pays a supplement,
does it not? A. Yes, that is paid during the summer.
Q. And you will receive that, of course? A. Yes.
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Q. How much would you receive during the summer?
A. I don’t know how much that is.
Q. What was your salary the last year when you were
teaching in the Stanly County system? A. Whatever the
salary is for experience of twelve years, State.
Q. Do you not know? A. No, I don’t; I don’t remember.
Q. Do you have any idea what your monthly check was?
A. I think it was $500.00 something. Each year of course
you get a little more, according to the number of years you
have taught and according to the type of certificate you
have.
Q. Do you have a different certificate now that you are
teaching in the Charlotte system than you had? A. No, I
would make the same thing here.
Q. Do I understand you are making approximately
$100.00 a month more? A. No, I wouldn’t say that.
Q. How much more would you say? A. I don’t know.
If I had known you were going to ask I would have brought
the vouchers with me because I don’t remember details
about salary, but that is the same throughout North Caro
lina until you reach the maximum and I haven’t reached
that yet.
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Q. The salary you are getting now is more or less than
the salary you were getting while employed in Stanly
County? A. The salary is more because I have another
year of experience more.
Q. Is that the only difference? A. Yes, because my sup
plement is not included in this.
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Q. You will receive a supplement? A. Yes.
Q. At the end of the year, your annual salary, will it be
more now that you are teaching in the Mecklenburg-Char-
lotte system, or less! A. Definitely more.
Q. Mrs. Wall, when you were teaching in the Kingville
school, Mr. E. E. Waddell was your principal? A. That’s
correct.
Q. How did you get along with Mr. Waddell? A. I
got along as well as anyone else.
Q. By that do you mean you had no problems with him
at all? A. Of course. We always have some problems
wherever we work and I found no more, no less.
Q. Did he ever talk with you about the manner in which
you were conducting yourself as a teacher? A. No, be
cause he told me I was an excellent teacher.
Q. Do you know any reason why he should not recom
mend you for employment? A. I do not.
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Q. Did you ever have any disagreement while you were
in the school system under Mr. Waddell with him, with re
gard to the methods of teaching? A. No.
Q. With regard to your participation in outside activities
in the community related to the school work? A. No, not
that I know of.
Q. Then I understand it, your relationship with Mr. Wad
dell was good? A. Yes.
Q. And you never had any problems with him? A. I
didn’t say that.
Q. You did have problems? A. I didn’t have any more
than I would incur in any other situation—problems of a
teacher, we will say.
Q. Just explain what the problems were. A. I don’t re
member because they weren’t significant problems.
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Q. You never had any significant problems with him?
A. No.
Q. Or at the time you were in that school? A. No.
Q. Did you ever have any problems with Mr. Hines your
principal, when you were at the West Badin school? A.
None that I know of.
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Q. Did he never talk with you about the manner in which
you were conducting yourself? A. He did not.
Q. Did he ever admonish you for leaving your class and
going to talk to other teachers ? A. He did not.
Q. I believe your husband taught in that school? A.
Yes he did.
Q. And I believe you contacted your husband quite fre
quently during school hours? A. I did not.
Q. Did you ever? A. Occasionally. If he were going to
have a meeting, I would need to get home—something of
that type—or if I were going to have a meeting, I would
notify him.
Q. You would leave your room and— A. No.
Q. You never left your room to talk to anybody? A. No.
Q. Did you ever have Mr. Hines say anything to you
about your talking in the community about school affairs?
A. No, because I did not live in the community over there.
I did not visit in the community.
Q. Did you ever attend P.T.A. meetings? A. Yes.
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Q. How regularly did you attend them? A. I attended
all or most of the P.T.A. meetings.
Q. You had contact with people in the community did you
not, the parents, etc.? A. At meetings but we didn’t con
tact the parents unless we had problems.
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Q. You did not have any association, as I understand it,
with the people in that community! A. No.
Q. When you did have contact, did you ever criticize the
Badin School to these people! A. No I didn’t.
Q. The manner in which it was operating? A. No.
Q. Did you offer any criticism whatsoever! A. No.
Q. Did you ever talk to other members of the faculty
concerning either how the school was being operated or how
Mr. Hines was conducting that school! A. No I didn’t. I
talked to the faculty during faculty meetings.
Q. What would you say at those meetings! A. What
ever the problems were.
Q. Do you recall whether there were any big problems?
A. Not problems of administration.
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Q. How did you get along with members of the faculty?
A. As well as anyone else, I would say.
Q. Did you have very many friends among the faculty?
A. I was friendly with all of them?
Q. Did Mr. Hines ever admonish you for not being co
operative while you were teaching in his school? A. No,
he did not.
Q. Did he ever admonish you for talking too much to
people about school problems? A. No he didn’t.
Q. Do you know of any reason why Mr. Hines would not
want to hire you as a teacher? A. No, I do not.
Q. After you left the system, did you ever make applica
tion to be re-employed at that school? A. I don’t remem
ber whether I wrote a letter or not. I made a personal con
tact.
Q. When was this?. A. This was during the past sum
mer of ’65.
Q. You saw Mr. Hines personally? A. I called him.
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Q. What did he tell you? A. He told me that he did not
have any vacancies.
Q. How did you get along with Mr. Baxter Williams?
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A. Fine.
Q. Did you ever have any problems with him? A. No,
not that I recall.
Q. Did he ever have to admonish you for the manner in
which you operated as a school teacher? A. No.
Q. Do you know Mr. Robert McLendon? A. Yes.
Q. How did you and Mr. McLendon get along when you
were teaching for him in the Lake view School? A. Like
all of his teachers did, we had problems.
Q. You had problems with Mr. McLendon? A. Yes.
Q. What were those problems? A. I would say they
were little mole hills made into mountains.
Q. Can you just give us an example of what you are
talking about. A. I am trying to think of some. We had
one this past year I believe—the year before last—over—
what was it? Something that we did not agree about. I
don’t know what it was but anyway we had the problem and
we tried to discuss it, since we did not reach an agreement
we decided to seek the help of the superintendent. He
changed his mind and I told him that I would still like a
conference with the superintendent and, of course, I had
the conference.
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Q. Was this disagreement related to school problems?
A. I don’t know if they were school problems or not. They
were not instructional problems.
Q. Why would you—you wouldn’t want to talk to the
school superintendent if they were not related to school
problems, would you? A. If it happened within the school,
yes. It could be personality problems.
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Q. But it was related to the school? A. While I was at
school.
Q. Did you and Mr. McLendon have frequent disagree
ments? A. We did that year.
Q. How often did you all have disagreements? A. May
be once a month; maybe once every two months.
Q. You say you did that year. You are referring to—
A. His first year there.
Q. What year would that be? A. 1963-64 I believe; I’m
not sure.
Q. You say you had rather frequent quarrels with him.
What was the nature of these quarrels? A. He would ac
cuse me of things I knew nothing about.
Q. Could you give us an example of what he accused you
of? A. He accused me of visiting people in the com
munity; trying to undermine him, I think he said.
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Q. Undermine him in what respect? A. In his position,
he said.
Q. In his position as what? A. As principal.
Q. When did he first talk with you about this? A. Im
mediately upon his arrival as principal.
Q. In the 1963-64 year? A. Yes, if that’s the year he
came.
Q. And did he talk with you about this on more than one
occasion? A. Yes.
Q. How often did he talk with you about it? A. I don’t
know how often; a number of times, let’s say.
Q. What other matters did you all argue about? A.
That’s about the essence of it I think.
Q. Did he ever reprimand you for not obeying school
rules? A. No.
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Q. Did yon ever disobey any school rules? A. No I
didn’t.
Q. Did you have a rule that teachers had to eat with their
children in the cafeteria? A. Not eat with the children.
We had rules that we had to be in the cafeteria with our
children.
Q. Did you follow this rule? A. Yes.
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Q. Did Mr. McLendon ever accuse you of not following
this rule? A. No.
Q. He has not said anything to you about this? A. No.
Q. While you were teaching in the Lakeview School, did
you attend P.T.A. meetings? A. Yes I did.
Q. How often? A. Most of them.
Q. You attended most of the P.T.A. meetings? A. Yes.
Q. Did Mr. McLendon ever say anything to you about
your failing to attend or ever accuse you of failing to at
tend? A. Once. I was ill that day and had a substitute
and the P.T.A. meeting was at night and he felt that I
should have attended anyway.
Q. Was that the only time? A. Yes.
Q. How long were you ill? A. I was out several days.
Q. Did he ever say anything to you about being out of
school, being absent from school? A. What do you mean?
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Q. Not present to teach? A. No.
Q. Did you ever get any excuses to be away from school?
A. No.
Q. Did you ever secure leave to leave your job to go see
a doctor or for any other reason? A. Well on Fridays if
I had to see my neurologist he would let me leave a little
earlier. School would be out but we had to stay until the
busses came.
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Q. Did you never leave school during teaching hours?
A. Not unless he sent me.
Q. Where would he send you? A. He would send me a
number of places.
Q. Where, for instance? A. Well, Standard Office
Equipment—any place he needed something for the school.
Even Durham for a meeting.
Q. What sort of attendance record did you have while
you were teaching for him? Were you there every day?
A. No, I wasn’t well every day.
Q. How many days were you out over this two year
period? A. I wouldn’t know.
Q. You did not enjoy good health during this period? A.
No.
Q. Did this require you to be out fairly frequently, away
from school? A. No.
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Q. How often were you away from school because of ill
ness? A. I think I was out—I’m not sure now—but I think
I was out this past year—I have two days sick leave left—
I was out maybe about seven days; I may be exaggerating.
Q. This was seven days you say you were out. By that
you mean— A. No, I am sorry, I wasn’t out seven days.
I was out maybe three or four last year.
Q. This is days you did not go to school at all? A.
That’s correct.
Q. How many days were you out that you went to school
and then asked to be excused? A. I didn’t.
Q. None? A. No.
Q. You stated you were seeing a neurologist. A. Urolo
gist.
Q. I’m sorry. Over what period of time were you seeing
him ? A. I still see him.
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Q. Is this a very serious affliction you have? A. No, it’s
not serious.
Q. But it requires seeing a doctor on a regular basis?
A. Yes.
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Q. I don’t know whether I covered this or not, but did
Mr. McLendon not have a rule that teachers had to be
present in the cafeteria with the children when they ate?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you follow this rule? A. Most of the time un
less he had me doing something else.
Q. Did he ever accuse you of not following this rule?
A. No, he did not.
Q. Did you ever refuse to go with your class? A. No,
no.
Q. How did you get along with the other members of
the faculty at Lakeview? A. As well as anyone else.
Q. Did you have no trouble with them? A. No more
problems than you would encounter with anyone else.
Q. But you did have some problems? A. No problems.
I had disagreements but I wouldn’t call them problems.
Q. What sort of disagreements? A. At faculty meet
ings if we didn’t agree on points, we would argue our
points out in faculty meetings.
Q. This was relating to the school problems? A. Maybe
something extra curricular or something of that nature.
Q. Did you ever criticize the method of teaching? A.
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I didn’t know anything about anyone’s method of teaching
but my own.
Q. Did you ever criticize the manner in which Mr. Mc
Lendon was operating that school? A. No, I did not.
Q. You had never criticized the method Mr. McLendon
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used? A. Other than that that he and I talked about to
gether.
Q. What was this? A. We talked about ways of im
proving the school; on a voluntary basis he asked me and
I only contributed what he asked me.
Q. You never criticized Mr. McLendon to anyone other
than himself? A. No.
Q. And only then on a voluntary basis? A. That’s cor
rect and also when I had my conference with the superin
tendent, he and I talked.
Q. Have you ever criticized any other school that you
have taught in to other people? A. No.
Q. You never offered any criticism at all? A. No.
Q. While you were teaching at the Badin school, you
never complained to Mr. Hines the principal, how the
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school you had previously been teaching at, had been oper
ating? A. No.
Q. And when you were teaching for Mr. McLendon in
Lakeview you never criticized the Badin School? A. No.
Q. Did you resent Mr. McLendon’s authority over you
when you were teaching for him? A. Definitely not.
Q. Did you co-operate with him in all respects? A. In
every way.
Q. Did you ever request any special privileges of him?
A. No.
Q. Did you ever question any instruction he had given
you? A. No.
Q. Mrs. Wall, you stated you taught with Mr. McLendon
in the Lakeview School for two years ? A. That’s right.
Q. And you set forth the problems you and Mr. Mc
Lendon had. I believe you stated first that this was just the
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first year. During the second year did this type problem
continue? A. No.
Q. And during the second year your relationship with
Mr. McLendon was good? A. Yes, it was much better; it
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was much improved.
Q. This was the 1964-65 year we are talking about? A.
That’s correct.
Q. Would you state whether or not when you left the
employment at Lakeview School, you were on good terms
with Mr. McLendon? A. Yes I was.
Q. Do you know of any reason why he would not recom
mend you for re-employment? A. No I do not.
Q. I believe you have already stated that you were em
ployed at Kingville School? A. Yes.
Q. That is in the Albemarle system? A. Albemarle City
school.
Q. Albemarle pays a supplement? A. Yes.
Q. Stanly County does not pay a supplement? A. No.
Q. Why were you selected to swap jobs with a teacher
in the county when you were at Kingville? A. Personal
reasons.
Q. What were those personal reasons? A. I don’t care
to disclose those. They were of a very personal nature.
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Q. Were they relating to school problems? A. No.
Q. This was reasons other than school problems? A.
Yes.
Q. Reasons of your home life? A. No, just say per
sonal.
Q. And you don’t care to discuss that? A. No.
Q. Do you know of any reason why Mr. Waddell would
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not recommend you for a job? A. No. I was asked to
come back to Kingville later. I did not choose to go back.
Q. I don’t want to press so far as this personal reason,
but do the reasons you describe as personal, have anything
at all to do with that as a teacher? A. No.
Q. With your standing in the community as a teacher?
A. No.
Q. With your relationship as a teacher to people in the
community? A. No.
Q. Has anyone ever failed to recommend you for re
employment? A. No. Other than decrease in enrollment
at West Badin.
Q. That’s the only time you have not been recommended
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for re-employment? A. Yes, and of course, this past year.
Q. Now, you have alleged in your complaint I believe
Mrs. Wall, that Stanly County has discriminated against
you because of your color. What facts do you rely upon in
making those allegations? A. Well, I relied upon the
facts . . .
Mr. Chambers: Objection.
A. . . . Well, we lost our students and our students were
still in Stanly County. They did not go to another system.
Q. And this is the reason you say you have been dis
criminated against? A. Yes.
Q. Now in paragraph 6 you allege that you made a rea
sonable effort to communicate your dissatisfaction with the
school board’s racially discriminatory practice but without
affecting any change. Now, what effort if any did you
make?
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Mr. Chambers: Objection.
380a
Q. What efforts have yon made, if any, in communicating
to the school board yonr dissatisfaction with its practice?
A. I communicated with my superintendent and I still can
not find a reason. I want to know the reason.
Q. Other than that have you made any other effort to
communicate? A. With my principal.
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Q. Who was this principal? A. Mr. McLendon.
Q. When was this? A. At a meeting we had. We had
several meetings.
Q. When? A. After this happened.
Q. What did you tell Mr. McLendon? A. I wanted to
know why.
Q. What did he tell you? A. He did not know why.
Q. Are there any other? A. No.
Q. When you talked about communicating to the prin
cipal Mr. McLendon and to the superintendent of the
school board, you were talking about not being re-hired
yourself, were you not? A. Yes.
Q. Have you ever discussed with the school board or with
any member affiliated with the school system, what you
contend is the school board’s practices that discriminated
against you?
Mr. Chambers: Objection.
A. I have not communicated with anyone else.
Q. As I understand it, you have not tried to communicate
with the school board or anyone with regard to these prac-
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tices that you contend are discriminatory? A. No.
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That Is A ll.
381a
Cross-Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mrs. Wall, did you come by my office following your
notification that you were dismissed? A. Yes I did.
Q. Did you seek my employment to assist you in at
tempting to rectify what we allege to be a wrong by the
school board? A. Yes.
Q. You are not familiar with any communications I had
with the school board, are you? A. No.
Q. You don’t recall whether I wrote a leter to the super
intendent of schools requesting that some steps be taken
to eliminate racial discriminatory practices?
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Mr. Williams: Objection.
A. No.
Q. And you don’t recall any reply?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
A. No.
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Q. Now Mrs. Wall, when you first came in the system
did I understand you to say you wrote a letter directly to
the superintendent? A. Yes I did and I also had an inter
view with the superintendent.
Q. And you were placed by the school board? A. Yes.
Q. And you say you were placed in New London? A.
That’s correct.
Q. Is that a Negro school? A. Yes.
Q. And you say that school had two teachers? A. Two
teachers.
Q. What grades did that school teach? A. I think one
through seven.
Q. How many students did it have? A. I believe it was
less than 100.
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Q. You say that school had consolidated with Kingville?
A. Yes.
Q. And did yon say the teachers moved over to King-
ville with the students when the schools consolidated? A.
Yes.
Q. Do you know of any other consolidation of schools
in the county? A. Not Negro schools.
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Q. Do you know of any consolidation of white schools?
A. The three schools, senior high schools but I don’t know
anything about what happened.
Q. The three senior high schools were consolidated? A.
Yes.
Q. Into what school? A. There were several high schools
in the county wide and there are only three high schools
now.
Q. And they have been consolidated through some means?
A. Yes.
Q. When did this take place ? A. I don’t know what year
but it was during Mr. Sifford’s administration.
Q. Now Mrs. Wall, have you taught in all Negro schools
throughout the time you taught in Stanly County? A.
Yes.
Q. This includes the Albemarle, Kingville School? A.
Yes.
Q. Were all Negro teachers there? A. Yes.
Q. And all Negro students? A. Yes.
Q. This is true at the Lakeview School too? A. Yes.
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Q. Were you ever advised or was any communication
ever sent out to the teachers of the school system while you
were here advising that the school board would employ
and assign teachers on a non-racial basis? A. Yes. I
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383a
don’t recall—I don’t know whether I read it in the news
papers or where.
Q. "Was that recently? A. Yes, it was during the com
pliance.
Q. And do yon recall whether the superintendent met
with the teachers to advise them the school board would
employ and assign teachers on a non-racial basis? A. He
didn’t meet with us.
Q. Did he send any directive to you advising this would
be done? A. If so I didn’t receive it.
Q. Now, there’s been some talk about your attendance at
Barber Scotia. Did you recevie a certification from the
State Board of Education advising that you were certified
to teach? A. Yes.
Q. And you stated you received your master’s degree
from A. & T. College? A. Yes.
Q. And you stated you had done further studies at
Appalachian? A. Yes.
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Q. You were employed this year by the Charlotte-Meck-
lenburg Board of Education? A. That’s correct.
Q. Was anything said to you about your qualifications
there? A. Nothing at all.
Q. You stated that when you left West Badin you were
told that the school was losing students and it would there
fore lose a teacher? A. That’s correct.
Q. Were you advised at that time you could be employed
in any of the schools in the Stanly County school system?
A. He told me that he would be happy to recommend me.
Q. To a school? A. To any school.
Q. Did you communicate with the superintendent in any
way at that time? A. No.
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384a
Q. Were you aware at that time whether you could be
assigned to a white school? A. No.
Q. Were you aware you could not be assigned to a white
school? A. I didn’t think it was possible so I didn’t even
pursue that.
Q. Had you received any communication from the super
intendent advising you that could be done? A. No.
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Q. Now this difficulty that Mr. Doby referred to with
Mr. McLendon, how did Mr. McLendon get along with
the other teachers ? A. The same way he did with me.
Q. Were you the only teacher not re-hired? A. I was
the only one actaully not re-hired because two resigned
previously.
Q. Do you know why they resigned? A. One has em
ployment in Charlotte and the other one was expecting
at the time and she didn’t think she would be able to come
back.
Q. Were you advised prior to the closing of the school
year there wTould be some decrease in enrollment of students
and decrease in the allotment of teachers to the school?
A. No, we all signed contracts.
Q. When did you sign contracts? A. It was in the
Spring.
Q. Was that for the 1965-66 school year? A. That’s
correct.
Q. Was that prior to the close of school? A. Yes.
Q. Did Mr. McLendon say anything to you at that time
to indicate you would not be back in the system? A. No.
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He had a conference with us and asked me if I would
come back and at the time I told him I did not know; that
I would let him know and later I did let him know that I
would come back.
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385a
Q. And do yon know whether he submitted your name
to the board recommending your re-employment for 1965-
66? A. Yes he did.
Q. You stated that after you received a letter from the
school board advising you would not be back in the system,
that you had some communication with the superintendent
regarding that? A. That was by phone.
Q. Would you state again what he told you? A. He did
not know that I was the one selected not to come back
and he said he would use every effort he had to help me
to seek employment and he suggested the one school that
he knew had a vacancy and asked me to pursue that and
I did.
Q. And this was at the Meisenheimer School? A. Yes.
Q. Did he suggest any other school? A. No. He told
me to try all and I did.
Q. Did he advise you then that the school system would
employ and assign teachers on a non-racial basis? A. Yes.
Q. That’s what he said? A. Yes.
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Q. Do you know whether any Negro teachers were as
signed to any of the white schools or formerly all white
schools? A. No.
Q. Do you know whether any white teachers were as
signed to all Negro schools or formerly all Negro schools?
A. I don’t think so.
Q. Do you know why you had a decrease in the allotment
of teachers at the Lakeview School? A. Yes. We lost a
great deal of students to Norwood Elementary School, a
previously all white school.
Q. When you say ‘lost’, what do you mean? A. They
integrated.
Q. Do you mean they transferred? A. Yes.
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Q. Pursuant to the Freedom of Choice Plan? A. Yes.
Q. And this reduced the number of teachers alloted to
the Lakeview School? A. Yes.
Q. Do you know how many teachers you had during the
1964-65 school year at Lakeview? A. I think nine with
the principal.
Q. Do you know how many students? A. Two hundred
and something.
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Q. Where is this Norwood Elementary School in rela
tion to Lakeview? A. Its very near there.
Q. One block, two blocks, a mile? A. I would say maybe
three blocks.
Q. And during 1964-65 were all white students who
lived in that area assigned to the Norwood Elementary
School? A. Yes.
Q. And all Negro students assigned to Lakeview? A.
Yes.
Q. Where did the Negro high school students go to
school? A. They came to Kingville in Albemarle.
Q. Is that a Negro school? A. Yes.
Q. Where did the white students go in that area? A.
South Stanly.
Q. Is that a white school? A. Yes.
Q. That’s in Norwood too? A. Yes.
Q. Did South Stanly have any Negro teachers? A. No.
Q. Now this personal problem you are referring to at
Kingville, you said that had nothing to do with your
teaching duties? A. Nothing at all.
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Q. And was in no way related to your performance as
a teacher either in the school or in the community? A.
No.
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387a
Q. Mrs. Wall, have yon at any time during the time
you have been teaching in the Stanly County system, re
ceived any communication whatever from the superin
tendent or from any member of the school board criticizing
your performance as a teacher? A. I have never received
any communication from any of them at any time.
Q. Either with respect to your performance in the school
or with respect to your performance outside the school?
A. No.
No further questions.
Re-Direct Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. Mrs. Wall, you said that the New London school you
taught in for a while was consolidated with the Kingville
School? A. Yes.
Q. Do you mean this was a consolidation or that the
New London School was disbanded and the students came
down to Albemarle? A. Yes, they came down in busses.
Q. And the Kingville School was in a different school
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system than the New London School? A. Yes.
Q. In fact, it was not a consolidation but an abandon
ment of the New London School? A. They called it con
solidation but you can call it that.
Q. Mrs. Wall, have you ever been told by anyone that
your application for employment would not be considered?
A. No.
Q. That your application for employment in the Stanly
County school system would not be considered? A. No.
Q. Were you satisfied to teach in the schools in Stanly
County during the years in the schools you taught in? A.
Yes.
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388a
Q. You did not want to teach in any school except the
one you were teaching in at the time? A. During the
year I had so much difficulty with Mr. McLendon, there
was a vacancy in another school where I had taught pre
viously; the principal asked me to come and I asked per
mission from the superintendent to change and he advised
me to stay on at Lakeview if I could.
Q. Your problems then with Mr. McLendon at Lakeview
were of such import that you considered changing schools?
A. Yes.
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Q. But other than that, you were teaching at the school
that you desired to teach at? A. Yes.
No further questions.
Re-cross Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mrs. Wall, did you state that you had filed applica
tion for employment here at the school board? A. Yes, I
sent a letter to Mr. Adams I believe and sent him a dupli
cate of all the others.
Q. And when you originally came into the system, did
you have an application here at the Superintendent’s of-
fic? A. Mr. Sifford had one and their office at that time
was not here.
Q. It was somewhere else? A. Yes.
Q. But it was in the system? A. Yes.
Q. This year did you have any application here in this
superintendent’s office? A. All of us had to apply.
Q. And did you apply? A. Yes.
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Q. Now Mr. Doby asked if where you taught was satis
factory to you. Were you advised whether you could teach
in a white school?
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Mr. Doby: Objection.
A. No.
Q. Would you have taught in a white school?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
A. Yes.
Q. Would you have taught in any white school this year?
A. Yes, I enjoy teaching, period.
Q. And you would have taught in any school to which
you would have been assigned by the school board? A.
Yes.
That is all.
Re-Redirect Examination (Mr. Doby):
Q. Did anyone in the Stanly County school system ever
advise you you couldn’t teach in a white school? A. No.
Q. You say you applied to the school board at the end of
the 1964-65 year for employment? A. The same type that
every teacher has to.
Q. What type of application is that? A. It’s a form
letter which is sent.
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Q. You send it to the board or do you send it to your
principal? A. The principal I believe—I don’t know who
the letter is made out to but he brings it to the board.
Q. You then give your application to your principal
rather than to the school board? A. Yes, but I also mailed
one to Mr. Adams.
Q. You mailed an application? A. I mailed a letter to
Mr. Adams.
Q. When was that? A. During the Summer of 1965.
Q. That was a different application from what you had
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sent through the principal? A. Yes, that was after my
dismissal.
Q. Did you mail him a letter! A. Yes.
Q. This was before or after you talked with him on the
telephone? A. After.
Q. And he told you to apply to the various schools in the
county? A. Yes.
Q. It was after this conversation that you mailed the ap
plication to him? A. Yes.
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Q. Do you have a copy of that letter? A. My attorney
has.
Q. Could we see it?
(Mr. Chambers produces letter)
Q. Mrs. Wall, you have never had any signed contract to
teach in the Stanly County system for the 1965-66 year,
have you? A. No, I just signed it.
Q. You signed a paper that you say was a contract. The
board never returned any contract to you, did they? A.
The board did not.
Q. And you don’t contend you were under contract to
teach for the 1965-66 year in the Stanly County system?
A. I don’t know.
Q. What do you mean you don’t know? A. I don’t know.
It’s hearsay. Would you like me to elaborate?
Q. Did you have a contract for the prior year? A. Yes.
Q. Where is that contract? A. He has a copy.
Q. Mrs. Wall, I am asking you; I am not asking Mr.
Adams.
Q. It’s some place. I only keep a contract for one year
because that’s all it’s good for.
Q. Just one year? A. Yes.
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Q. And you did not receive one for the 1965-66 year,
did you? A. All I did was to sign one as I said pre
viously.
Q. In previous years you signed a contract and then
the board executed it and sent it back to you? A. I have
gotten a contract after I began teaching which was last
year.
Q. And each of those years you did get a contract back?
A. Yes.
Q. And you have not received a contract back for the
1965-66 year? A. No.
Q. You asked if I wanted you to elaborate. Now you
just go ahead and say what you wanted to say? A. Well,
I was recommended by the board, I know that.
Q. What board? A. This board.
Q. By the school board? A. Yes. .
Q. For what? A. To teach at Lakeview Elementary
School.
Q. When did they recommend you? A. When the board
met and recommended the other teachers.
Q. When was that? A. I don’t know when it was.
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Q. How do you know you were recommended?
Mr. Chambers: Objection. I think for the rec
ord we have in exhibit #8 submitted by the school
board, the minutes of the Stanly County school
board which shows the action of the school board
on that date and the action taken by the school board
with respect to the contracts for the school year
1965-66 and these are exhibits which speak for them
selves.
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A. Our committee saw the minutes; that’s how I knew.
Q. What committee was that? A. The committee that
met with Mr. Adams.
Q. Who was that committee ? A. This committee—I was
on the committee but I did not come. This committee con
sisted of Mr. Hines, Mr. Williams, Mr. McLendon and
Mrs. Burris.
Q. What did this committee do? A. They came up to
show Mr. Adams an article that they wished to publish.
Q. What did that article relate to? A. Protesting what
happened.
Q. What action were they protesting? A. The action
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—the things that happened to me.
Q. This committee was protesting the action the school
board had taken with reference to you? A. Yes.
Q. And you alone? A. And others.
Q. Who were the others? A. They are on the record
some place. I don’t care to elaborate on that.
Q. Who were the others? A. As I said, I don’t care to
elaborate on that.
Q. Why don’t you care to elaborate? A. I will let my
attorney tell you.
Mr. Chambers: If you know the names, you can
tell.
A. Mr. Welborn is one and I don’t know the names of the
others.
Q. You don’t know any of the others? A. I don’t know
the names because I have not been in contact with them.
Q. Were you present when the committee met with the
school board? A. I did not choose to come but we had a
meeting immediately following.
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Q. Where was this meeting! A. At the Kingville school.
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Q. Who was in attendance at that meeting!
Mr. Chambers: Objection. That’s not relevant to
the subject.
Mr. Doby: It’s my understanding on depositions
you can delve into any matter you care to.
Mr. Chambers: That’s true providing it has rele
vancy to a matter before the court.
Mr. Doby: I would think anything relating to the
action this committee took is relevant.
Mr. Chambers: This is becoming more cloak and
dagger type thing where you might involve some
innocent people and as long as it has no relevancy
to the matter that will be before the court, I don’t
think we should go into it. We’ve been liberal on
the thing.
Mr. Williams: It’s competent for the record here
but it might be objectionable to the record on the
trial.
Mr. Chambers: There are some matters she might
not want to disclose that might be used not for the
record but for other things.
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Mr. Williams: You have a right to instruct her
not to answer.
Mr. Chambers: We will be glad to put it in the
record. We will put it in the record that the witness
was instructed not to answer.
Mr. Williams: The reason this examination was
pursued on the matter of contract was she used a
legal term and that has to be cleared up so we can-
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not be left saying here that when she used it, she
was stating she was under contract. We have to go
back to find out what it is. Actually that’s a legal
term and it may be or may not be and that was the
reason for this.
Mr. Chambers: We are not suing you for damages
or breach of contract or anything of that nature.
Mr. Williams: But this record can be used in the
far reaches. We can’t leave in this record anything
that has a legal effect we need to explain.
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Mr. Chambers: If you can show any relevance
into the inquiry into the meeting she attended or the
committee attended, we will be glad to withdraw the
statement that—
Mr. Williams : I’m going back to the objection you
made about the contract. Our question about the
contract was due to the fact that we were talking
about a legal thing rather than what her conception
might be, whether she was or was not under contract.
This other part, I am not addressing my remarks
now to that.
Mr. Doby: Is it my understanding that you are
instructing her not to answer?
Mr. Chambers: That’s right.
Mr. Doby: In the interest of time, you are in
structing her not to answer questions with regard
to any meetings this committee had, what its func
tions were, who was in attendance at the meeting.
Mr. Chambers: The question as I understand it
was, who was in attendance at the meeting and I
instructed her not to answer that.
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Deposition of Audrey Gillis Wall
(Discussion off the record)
Mr. Chambers: I’ll stipulate she signed a paper
writing; that the paper writing was submitted to
the school hoard on the 7th of June; it was acted on
and approved and a list of applications submitted
by principals of teachers in the Stanly County school
system and that this paper writing was not returned
to Mrs. Wall.
(Discussion off the record)
No further questions.
Re-Re-Cross-Examination (Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mrs. Wall, in the letters that you wrote to the other
principals of schools following your notice that you would
not be back in the system, did you send a copy of that to
Mr. Adams? A. Yes.
That is all.
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Transcript of Proceedings, April 26, 1966
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The Court: This case for hearing is that of Audrey Gillis
Wall and others vs. the Stanly County Board of Education.
Are the plaintiffs ready?
Mr. Chambers: The plaintiff is ready.
The Court: The defendant?
Mr. Doby: The defendants are ready, Your Honor.
The Court: All right. Of course, as you know, from our
Rules, we do not read the pleadings. However, in most
cases, if counsel desires to make an opening statement as
to what is proposed to be proved, which I find often—
even though I am the factfinder—helpful, I am not insist
ing that you make an opening statement, but on the other
hand would leave that to your good judgment. What says
the plaintiff in that regard, Mr. Chambers?
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, we have a brief opening
statement that we would like to make and set out our
contentions.
The Court: I ’ll be glad to hear you.
Mr. Chambers: And what we are requesting in the way
of relief in this proceeding. This is a civil action filed by
a Negro teacher and the North Carolina Teacher Associa
tion, which is an organization composed of Negro teachers
in the State of North Carolina, seeking to have enjoined
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practices of racial discrimination which we have alleged
were followed by the Stanly County Board of Education
and are presently followed by the Stanly County Board of
Education, specifically and not attempting to include all
of the practices that we are challenging here, we are con
tending that the Stanly County Board of Education has
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followed a practice and presently follows a practice of
assigning, employing and dismissing teachers on the basis
of race, that Negro teachers have been employed and as-
igned to Negro schools, and white teachers have been em
ployed and assigned to white schools, that at the close of
the 1964-65 school year, the Stanly County Board of Edu
cation pursuant to the requirements of the Civil Rights
Act of 1964 and the regulations under that Act, adopted a
plan which provided for free choice of schools with students
in the school system, that approximately 300 students re
quested transfer from formerly all-Negro schools to for
merly all-white schools, that with the transfer of these
students, the Stanly County Board of Education reduced
the allotment of teachers at the Negro schools while in
creasing the allotment of teachers at the white schools,
and discharged and refused to rehire four Negro teachers,
we contend, because of their race, and pursuant to the
policy of the Stanly County Board of Education in not
employing or even considering employing Negro teachers
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at white schools, we are contending further that the Stanly
County Board has followed a practice of failing to give
fair and objective consideration to teachers in the school
system, including the plaintiff and members of the plaintiff
corporation, and that this deprived the plaintiff and mem
bers of her class of due process of law as guaranteed by
the United States constitution. These practices, we con
tend, warrant here a finding by the Court that the Stanly
County Board of Education has and does discriminate
against Negro teachers and warrants an order by the
Court, one, for reinstatement of the plaintiff and members
of her class who were discriminated against by the Board;
two, an order enjoining the Board from discriminating
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against teachers, Negro teachers in the school system in
the employment, assignment or discharge; and, three, order
ing the Board to cease failing to give fair and objective
consideration to all applicants for employment or re
employment. These are our basic contentions, and the
basic relief that we are seeking here in this proceeding.
The Court: All right, Mr. Chambers. Thank you. All
right, Mr. Williams and Mr. Doby.
Mr. Doby: May it please the Court, it’s the position of
the defendant School Board in this case that the plaintiff
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was dismissed for cause, and that she lacked the qualifica
tions necessary for a good teacher, lacked qualifications in
the sense that she could not get along with her fellow teach
ers, that she disobeyed the rules of her principal, and gen
erally was a troublemaker that upset the whole program
of the school, program in her school, the Lakewood School.
Further, it is our position that throughout the years, it
has been the practice of the Stanly County School Board
to hire its teachers on the basis of recommendations, par
ticularly from the principal of the school involved, and
that was done in this case, and that the defendant, or
rather, the plaintiff was not recommended for hiring dur
ing the 1965-66 year. We further contend that there was
no one else involved in this matter other than this indi
vidual plaintiff, Mrs. Wall, and that the evidence will
warrant a finding by this Court that the School Board, in
the exercise of its discretion, in effect, failed to rehire
Mrs. Wall for cause, and that the complaint ought to be
dismissed.
The Court: As I see it, gentlemen, it’s simply whether
race had anything to do with the hiring or lack of hiring
of the plaintiff in this case, as I see it. Isn’t that an a
simple sort of way—
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Mr. Doby: Yes, sir.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, we would go one step fur
ther, whether the practices of the Board accord due process
or has accorded due process to the plaintiff and her class,
that is the practices of the Board in considering and ap
praising teachers for employment and assignment.
The Court: All right. The case is with the plaintiff,
then. It is our practice here, Mr. Chambers, to swear one
witness at a time, and I advise the defendants of that. If
you have several witnesses, we prefer to swear them one
at a time. All right, Mr. Chambers.
Mr. Chambers: If it please the Court, we have some
exhibits that we would like to introduce initially, because
we want to examine some witnesses with respect to them.
We have answers to interrogatories that were filed by de
fendants in response to interrogatories of the plaintiff,
and we would like permission of the Court to substitute
the originals for the copies that we have. These have been
filed with the Court.
The Court: No objection to substituting a copy of the
interrogatories, is there?
Mr. Doby: No, sir.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: We’d like these marked as Plaintiff’s
Exhibit No. 1.
(The document above referred to was marked
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 1 for identification.)
Mr. Chambers: We have depositions of Mr. Luther
Adams, Mr. Robert McLendon, Mr. G. L. Hines, Mr. Reece
B. McSwain, and of Mrs. Audrey Gillis Mall, which we
would like marked as Plaintiff’s Collective Exhibit No. 2.
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(The documents above referred to were marked
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 2 for identification.)
The Court: All right. Now, would you give me those
slowly so that I can get them down here in my notes?
Mr. Chambers: Mr. Luther Adams.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: Mr. Robert McLendon.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: Mr. G. L. Hines.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: Mr. Reece B. McSwain, and Mrs. Audrey
Gillis Wall.
The Court: Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 2.
Mr. Chambers: We again with the Court’s permission,
substitute the originals for the copy.
The Court: Any objection by the defendant?
Mr. Doby: No, sir.
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The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: In connection with the depositions that
were taken of Mr. Luther Adams, we have ten exhibits
that were introduced, and we would like to introduce these
here at Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 3, or mark them as Plain
tiff’s Collective Exhibit No. 3.
(The documents above referred to were marked
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 3 for identification.)
Mr. Doby: In regard to Exhibit 2, I do not have a copy
of that, as far as the record shows. I don’t know whether
that was ever introduced. If you have copies, we will have
no objection.
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Mr. Chambers: These were furnished us by the Board,
and I think in the deposition of Mr. McLendon, I’ll check
the page on it—Mr. Adams, rather, the defendant agreed
to furnish the defendant with those exhibits.
Mr. Doby: Is there something in the record to that effect!
The Court: Mr. Doby, you mentioned Exhibit 2. You
are talking—what you have before you here! Mr. Chambers
is proposing Exhibit 3. Is that what you’re questioning
about!
Mr. Doby: Yes, sir.
The Court: All right.
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Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, if there is an objection to
those at this time, I cannot find the exact stipulation of the
parties in the deposition of Mr. Adams at this time, but I
do have a copy of a statement of Mr. Williams’ letter to
me enclosing those exhibits. We also would like to refer
the Court to the Pretrial Order, Final Pretrial Order,
entered in this case in which we listed the exhibits that
we were confident that we would proffer at this time. It’s
one of the exhibits in which the defendant stipulated that
if otherwise admissible, it would be admitted in evidence.
The Court: What page do you have that, Mr. Chambers!
Mr. Chambers: Yes, sir. On page number 3, where we
list, in number “C” .
The Court: “C” ! Teacher allotment form and allotments
for the 65-66 school year!
Mr. Chambers: Yes, sir. That’s what we were referring
to.
The Court: Gentlemen, counsel for the plaintiff says
that is what his proposed Exhibit 3 is about, and then,
let’s see, reading, “It is stipulated and agreed that the
defendant’s counsel has been furnished a copy of each
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exhibit identified by the plaintiffs” , and eight, “It is stipu
lated and agreed that each of the exhibits that are identified
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by the plaintiff is genuine and if relevant and material, may
be received in evidence, without further identification.”
That being the case, it would seem that maybe it is just
a question of materiality, and if it is, as it is stated in
that list, I think it would be material, Mr. Williams.
Mr. Williams: Yes, sir. If Your Honor please, we don’t
object to them being offered, but we still don’t want to
loose our objection, our right to object to the materiality
or the competency of the material that might be maintained
there. We do not say that the exhibits proffered here are
not exhibits that we furnished, but we do not wish to be
bound here as having—
The Court: Admitted that they are material and rele
vant?
Mr. Williams : Yes, sir.
The Court: Really, he hasn’t offered them.
Mr. Williams: For identification purposes.
The Court: At that time, of course, you may, of course,
make your objection, and then I will rule. All right—at
the time they are offered into evidence.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, with respect to those ex
hibits, we would like permission of the Court to permit us
to substitute the originals which were filed with the depo
sitions.
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The Court: There will be no objections?
Mr. Williams: No, sir.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: We proffer at this time the answers to
interrogatories filed by the plaintiffs to interrogatories
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propounded by the defendant, and we’d like to have these
marked as Plaintiffs Exhibit No. 4.
(The documents above referred to were marked
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 4 for identification.)
Mr. Chambers: We’d like to call at this time Mr. Luther
Adams.
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Whereupon, L uther A . A dams was duly sworn, and testi
fied as follows:
Direct Examination (By Mr. Chambers):
Q. Would you state your name, please! A. Luther
Adams.
Q. Mr. Adams, you are superintendent of the Stanly
County Board of Education! A. Yes, sir.
Q. Superintendent of public schools of Stanly County!
A. Yes.
Q. Mr. Adams, you have testified in depositions which
have been taken which have been introduced as part of
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Plaintiff’s Collective Exhibit No. 2, about the procedures
followed by the Stanly County Board in considering for
employment and employing teachers and school personnel.
Would you state to the Court at this time the procedures
that the Stanly County Board of Education followed for
the 1965-66 school year for employing teachers! A. This
current year!
Q. Yes. A. The procedure which we followed in em
ploying teachers for this current year is generally this.
Principals recommend teachers to me and to the Board of
Education that they have interviewed, and upon their rec
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ommendation, we take this to the Board of Education for
approval or disapproval.
Q. What standards did you have in considering teachers
for employment in the school system! A. The same stand
ards that would be considered for employment in any school
in North Carolina.
Q. Could you state to the Court what those would he!
A. Yes. Basically, certification requirements that are es
tablished by the State Board of Education, generally train
ing, qualifications, and so forth.
Q. Would there be anything else besides certification
and training! A. That we considered when we employed
a person!
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Q. For a teaching position in the school system. A.
Oh, yes. We follow a procedure of checking any refer
ences that might have been given, of course personal inter
views, a personal contact with the applicant, and that sort
of thing.
Q. Would there he anything else specifically that you
would consider? A. At this point, I think not.
Q. With reference to the personal interviews, who would
make the personal interview! A. The principal generally
would make the personal interview. However, this isn’t
done entirely by the principals. An applicant can place an
application with the principal or with the Board of Educa
tion, and if the interview takes place, it would generally
take place with the principal, because they must make the
recommendation. We do some referral, of course, of appli
cations to principals.
Q. Did you do any referrals for the 1965-66 school year?
A. I can’t recall any offhand.
Q. Now, you say that when the applicant makes an appli
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cation with the principal, that the principal does the inter
viewing? A. Yes.
Q. And when the aplicant files an application with the
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Board, who does the interviewing? A. The principal.
Q. How is this done? A. In the same manner in which
it would be done had the applicant applied directly to the
principal.
Q. How does the applicant’s name get to the principal?
A. By filing an application with him.
Q. Now, I’m talking about the instance where the appli
cant files an application with the Board. A. The applica
tions are on file in my office, and they are at the disposal
of the principals anytime they wish to look at them.
The Court: How does he know an application has
been made to the Board, Mr. Adams? Is there any
procedure that you follow?
The Witness: Generally this, Your Honor. We
have many applications come through the mail which
we routinely acknowledge and send out reference
forms to the references given, and these then are
in turn filed in my office in an application file and
which the principals have access to when they come
to the office looking for applications that might fit
some of their specific needs.
The Court: I see.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. When those applications come in to the Board of
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Education, they are placed in your files according to race?
A. In 1965 and ’66?
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Q. Yes. A. No.
The Court: I didn’t get that question. What was
your question?
Mr. Chambers: I asked if those applications that
came to the Board of Education were placed in files
according to race.
The Court: Oh, I see. And your answer was?
The Witness: No.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Did you follow the practice at any time? A. Yes.
Q. When did you discontinue that practice? A. A year
ago.
Q. You are stating that you did not follow that practice,
that is that the applications were not in separate files for
the 1965-66 school year, for the current school year? A.
That’s correct.
Q. Do you recall testifying at the depositions that they
were in separate files? A. That was the 64-65 year. I
recall that, sir.
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Q. But you don’t recall testifying that they were for the
1965-66 vear?V
Mr. Williams: We’ll object to that, Your Honor.
The Court: Yes. I think that should be sustained.
Sustained. You have the deposition there, Mr.
Chambers, and may use that in cross examining.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. How are the applications filed now in your file, Mr.
Adams, with respect—are they separated according to de
grees, or certificates? A. No.
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Q. Are they filed alphabetically? A. No.
Q. How are they filed? A. They are filed in the order
in which they are received.
Q. Mr. Adams, I will show you Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 2,
which is the deposition of Mr. Luther Adams, on page 19,
and ask you if you did make that statement as appears on
that page, beginning here in reference to the question that
was asked at the beginning of the page? A. Yes, I made
this statement. I answered your question in the light of
’64-’65, and ’65-66, now, it’s true that we did maintain sep
arate files in ’64 and ’65, and I admit to this, yes. That
is not the case at this point.
The Court: You simply say that for the ’65-66 year
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they were not kept divided according to race, and
that before that they were? Is that your answer?
The Witness: That’s correct, Your Honor, yes, sir.
The Court: All right.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Now, with reference to another item you say you
consider in considering a teacher for employment, what
is done in the personal contact that the principal or school
board official might have with the applicant? A. By this
I mean that we expect the applicant to come for a personal
interview on the site.
Q. That would be the same then as the interview, the
personal contact? A. Yes.
Q. Now, the reference you made to the Board making
referral, would you explain Avhat you mean by that? A.
Simply this, that when the Board receives an application
in my office, this application is filed for referral to the
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principals at their pleasure. This generally is just an
added service that we do for the principal or principals
who might be looking for a specific qualified person.
Q. Mr. Adams, I am again going back to the matter of
separate files, and again showing you Plaintiff’s Exhibit
No. 2, on page 24, and ask you to read to the Court the
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third question that appears on that page and the answer
that you gave to the question that you still maintained
separate files for the Negro and white applicants. A. Yes.
Q. Was that referring to the 1965-66 school year? A.
If you recall, when this was made, it was in early Septem
ber, I believe, when the statement was made.
The Court: What is the date, Mr. Chambers, of
the deposition?
Mr. Chambers: The date of the deposition?
The Court: Yes.
Mr. Chambers: September the 28th, 1965.
The Witness: Late September.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, one further question in regard to that.
The first question that appears on that page, would you
read that and the answer?
The Court: On page 24?
Mr. Chambers: Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 2, deposi
tion of Mr. Adams.
A. “For this year, how did you go about employing
teachers for the school system for this year?
Answer: Essentially the same as we have been
doing in the past, upon recommendation of the
principal.”
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Would you read the rest of it?
A. “Were your applications again made to the prin-
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cipal and to your office? Yes.”
Q. And the next question?
A. “Do you still maintain separate files for the
Negro and white applicants? Answer: Yes.”
Q. Mr. Adams, do you furnish the principal of the schools
with any written standards or criteria for considering ap
plicants for employment? A. Presently?
Q. Did you at the beginning of the 1965-66 school year?
A. No.
Q. Did you at the close of the 1964-65 school year? A.
No.
Q. Did you at any time during your tenure there prior
to the present? A. No.
Q. Did you have any written procedures for evaluating
teachers? A. Here again, you need to, Mr. Chambers, state
the time that you are referring to, please, sir. This is con
fusing me somewhat, because I don’t know. You are switch
ing from one year to the next, and I want to be absolutely
correct in what I say.
Q. Have you adopted any such procedures? Has the
Board adopted any such procedures at any time prior to
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the present? A. For the—
Q. For the evaluation of teachers? A. Yes.
Q. When was this done ? A. Within the past two months.
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Q. Within the past two months? A. Yes.
Q. Is that looking for the 1966-67 school year? A. Yes.
Q. And it did not affect the employment for the 1965-66
school year? A. No.
Q. Did the Board have any written policies or practices
for considering teachers for re-employment at any time
prior to the present? A. The only written policy I can
recall offhand was the principal would recommend the
teacher for the positions that were available in his school.
Q. Do yon know of yonr own knowledge what the prin
cipal would consider? A. Yes. I think to some degree
they would all consider basically the same things, how
well they felt the teacher would fit into their particular
situation, whatever position they might be seeking to fill.
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Certainly if you were lopking for a first grade teacher,
you would try to find someone qualified in that area by
not only the intangible things that you look for, but the
tangible as well. And I am sure the principals would con
sider both aspects.
Q. What did you consider, Mr. Adams, when you acted
on the recommendaiton of the principal? A. Generally,
this. I, in delegating the authority of the Board of Edu
cation to the principals for the recommending and employ
ing of teachers, generally took their recommendation, what
ever it was. We generally conferenced about the teacher
involved or in question, and if we felt that the teacher was
the best person we could find for the particular position
available, we made every effort then to employ that person.
Q. When did you confer with the principal? A. Gener
ally after the principal had interviewed the prospective
teacher, although this at times could be done beforehand
as well, depending upon how much information we had on
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the particular applicant beforehand, whether the refer
ences were good or bad, or perhaps average.
Q. That’s with respect to the new applicant, the confer
ence then that you referred to. Is that true? A. Yes.
Q. What about the person being considered for re-
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employment? A. This is done upon the recommendation
of the principal. If he certifies to me that this teacher is
doing what he expects them to do and carrying out the
program of that particular school, and he is willing to
recommend her, this is all we require.
Q. What was your role at that time? What did you con
sider? Just the recommendation? A. The recommenda
tion, yes.
The Court: I understand that you make a dis
tinction between reemployment and employment of
a new teacher, the distinction being that you do not
personally interview one for reemployment while you
do for a new teacher?
The Witness: No, sir, Your Honor. I think what
I was trying to say was this. That any new appli
cant coming into the system is employed generally—
or rather is employed generally by the principals.
This does not conclude the fact that I might do it
in case the principal is off from school or for some
reason had to be out of the county for an extended
period of time. We could do it through our office.
We do not interview teachers who are presently
employed and are seeking reemployment for the
coming year.
The Court: All right.
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Have you on any occasions interviewed a teacher, an
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applicant for a position? A. I’m trying to search all the
way back, but I can’t recall offhand having at this point
interviewed any prospective teacher for our system.
Q. Mr. Adams, would you state in your professional
opinion the role you think the superintendent plays or
should play in the selection of applicants for employment
in the school system?
Mr. Williams: Objection, Your Honor.
The Court: Mr. Chambers, what Mr. Adams might
think about it—is that proper evidence before the
Court? I understand your question to be what he
thinks the role of the superintendent should be gen
erally to employment. I doubt the competency of
that.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, my question is going
to the point that we made about the point about the
failure to accord due process to the teachers, that
is to thoroughly and objectively consider all appli
cants for positions, and we think his opinion on the
role that educators commonly accept of a superin
tendent would have some bearing, would have some
competency on the issues that we are considering
here.
The Court: You take it that since he is a pro
fessionally qualified educator, in that capacity, you
are asking?
Mr. Chambers: Yes, sir.
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The Court: I sustain the objection. You may ask
him again and let’s see if you can’t phrase it a little
more along the lines of his appearance as a person
professionally qualified to give what would appear
to he something verging on an expert opinion in the
field of education. All right. I thought you might
want to rephrase it.
Mr. Chambers: We would just as soon go on to
another question, Your Honor.
The Court: You might rephrase it. I’d be inclined
to overrule any objection if it was put in a little
different facet, but I’ll leave that up to you.
Mr. Chambers: I’ll try rephrasing it this way,
then.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, do you have an opinion as a professional
in the area of education which is satisfactory to yourself
as to the role that a superintendent plays in the employ
ment of teachers in a school system?
Mr. Williams: Objection, Your Honor.
The Court: Overruled. You can answer that yes
or no.
A. I have no opinion at this point, really.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, does the Stanly County Board of Educa
tion follow a practice of requiring written communications
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from principals as to the qualifications of teachers? A. By
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written qualifications, what do you mean? What are you
referring to?
Q. You stated in your earlier testimony that the super
intendent considered all applicants—I mean the principal
considered all applicants for employment and made his rec
ommendation to the superintendent, who in turn made his
recommendation to the Board. My question is whether the
superintendent makes a written evaluation of the teacher,
or the applicant for a teacher’s position? A. A written
evaluation, no, sir.
Q. Does the communication from the principal to the
superintendent, is it oral at all times? A. Not exactly.
The principal gathers all the information that’s available
about the teacher in terms of proper certification, training,
and so forth, and then transmits this teaching certificate
and so forth to the office for safekeeping.
Q. Is that the only written information that you are
furnished with? A. Yes, to the extent that we do seek out
other information about the teacher for payroll purposes
and bookkeeping purposes, and that sort of thing, which
more or less is personal in nature.
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Q. Is there written communication between the principal
and superintendent regarding the performance of a teacher
in the school system? A. At times, yes.
Q. And where is this information kept? A. Filed in the
personnel files.
Q. Now, Mr. Adams, generally, how many new teachers
does the Stanly County Board employ each year? A. Gen
erally, new teachers?
Q. Yes. A. Mr. Chambers, I could just hazard a guess,
because it would be—I would have no knowledge other than
the past three years, but I would think that we would em
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ploy anywhere from perhaps forty to sixty new teachers
each year.
Q. This would he a normal average of your employment?
A. For the last three years it would be, yes.
Q. Was there a reduction in the teacher allotment in the
Stanly County School System for the 1965-66 school year
from what it was during the 1964-65 school year? A. I be
lieve I’ve covered all or most of that in the deposition as
I recall, and these figures are rather hazy in my mind, but
I think all of that is in the deposition. I do recall that we
had a reduction in academic teachers, but an increase in
vocational teachers.
Q. You testified during the deposition that you lost or
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had a reduction of three in the number of teachers at the
Lakeview Elementary School for the 1965-66 school year?
A. That’s correct. We did not assign—
Q. Was there a corresponding increase in the number of
teachers at the Norwood School for the 1965-66 school
year? A. This again would have to be a guess. I think you
have all those figures there that I have supplied to you.
Q. This is Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 3 which carries the
figures you were talking about? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Would you repeat your answer? A. We have allotted
six and a half teachers to Lakeview this year and Norwood
—let’s see—and twenty-seven teachers to Norwood this
year.
The Court: Was that, Mr. Adams, at Lakeview in
the question where you said there were three teachers
less. Is that right? Now you said you allotted six
at Lakeview. Is that three less?
The Witness: Actually, Your Honor, we have a
half a teacher at Lakeview that serves as the librar
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ian part-time at that school and part-time at another
school. Actually it’s two and a half teachers, but in
effect, really, we are three teachers short, or shy,
rather, from the previous year, because we were
using the half teacher the previous year also.
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The Court: All right.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. I will show you Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 1, which is the
answers to interrogatories filed by the defendant, and ask
if the number of teachers employed at the Norwood School
for the 1964-65 school year—
The Court: Are you saying Norwood?
Mr. Chambers: N-o-r-w-o-o-d.
The Court: All right.
By the Witness:
A. Twenty-five.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Now, you stated that the number allotted for the 1965-
66 school year was twenty-seven? A. That’s correct.
Q. That would represent an increase of two, would it not?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, you had a reduction of teachers at West Badin
for the year 1965-66 school year of four. Is that correct?
A. I think it was from fifteen—from nineteen to fifteen and
a half.
Q. What school serves the white students in the Badin
area? A. The elementary school?
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Q. Yes. A. The Badin Elementary School.
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Q. Would you state the number of teachers allotted to
the Badin School for the 1964-65 school year? A. The
Badin School, eleven.
Q. And would you state the number allotted for the
1965-66 school year? A. Twelve.
The Court: That was ’64-65, eleven?
The Witness: Yes, sir.
The Court: And ’65-66, twelve?
The Witness: Twelve.
The Court: All right, sir.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. What high school serves the white students in the
Badin area? A. The North Stanly High School.
Q. Would you state the number of students allotted to
the North Stanly School for the 1964-65 school year? A.
You said the number of students?
Q. Number of teachers. A. The number of teachers al
lotted to the North Stanly School?
Q. For the 1964-65 school year. I think that would be on
the interrogatories. A. ’64-65?
Q. Yes. A. In North Stanly, it would be thirty-three.
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Q. An the number allotted for the 1965-66 school year?
A. Thirty-four.
Q. Thirty-four? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Now, what school serves the white schools in the south
or Oakboro area? A. The Oakboro Elementary School.
Q. And what school serves the white students in the high
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school in the Oakboro area? A. The West Stanly High
School?
Q. Would you state the number of students allotted to
the Oakboro School for the 1965—, for the ’64-65 school
year? A. Again I presume you mean teachers?
Q. Teachers, yes, sir. I’m sorry. The number of teachers
allotted? A. To the West Stanly High School for 1964-65,
thirty-four and a half.
Q. And the number allotted for the 1965-66 school year?
A. Thirty-five.
Q. Would you state the number of teachers allotted to the
North Stanly High School for the 1964-65 school year? A.
North Stanly, thirty-three.
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Q. Is that the high school that serves the Oakboro high
school students? A. No. You said North Stanly.
Q. What school serves those students? A. The West
Stanly.
Q. The West Stanly. Would you state the number of
teachers allotted to the West Stanly School for the 1964-65
school year ? A. Thirty-four and a half.
Q. And the number of teachers allotted for the 1965-66
school year? A. Thirty-five.
Q. Is that the high school? A. Yes, sir. That’s what you
asked me.
Q. Yes.
The Court: You said thirty-five for the ’65-66
school year?
The Witness: Yes, sir. Thirty-four for the ’64-65
and thirty-five for the ’65-66.
The Court: Gentlemen, let me make this inquiry
right here. I need to get these notes on this down,
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but it makes some difference—has there been any
thought as to whether either side, and I’m not in
sisting that you do, you use your own judgment—
will either side, or does either side now know that
they will want a copy of the transcript ? It will make
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a difference in my note-taking, but I don’t want that
to have any influence on your decision. Have you
made any decision about that yet, Mr. Chambers,
you and Mr. Pearson?
Mr. Chambers: What?
The Court: Whether you want a transcript of this
record or not. You don’t have to. It would make a
difference in my notebook.
Mr. Chambers: I think we would, Your Honor,
want a transcript.
The Court: Pm not positive, but I would think so.
Pm not trying to drive you to a decision. Have you
gentlemen made a decision on it yet?
Mr. Doby: We would want a copy, Your Honor.
The Court: All right. It can make this a little
faster—when I have to get these figures down, why,
it takes me a little longer with the delay.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Now, Mr. Adams, looking at the overall allotment on
the exhibits that you have for the 1964-65 school year and
the 1965-66 school year, did you have an increase in the
number of teachers allotted for the 1965-66 school year?
A. Are you talking about academic teachers or vocational
teachers? You know these come separate.
Q. I ’m talking about the total number allotted. A. We
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had a decrease in the academic teachers.
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Q. And how much of a decrease1? A. I don’t know. I
would have to check.
Q. Was there an increase in the overall number of teach
ers for the 1965-66 school year? A. Yes.
Q. And do you know the number of increase from the
1964-65 school year? A. Here again, all this I think is in
the depositions, and this would resort purely to memory
again.
Q. In the schools that we were referring to, that is, the
Norwood School and the Badin Elementary School and the
North Stanly and West Stanly and Oakboro, there was an
increase in the number of teachers for the 1965-66 school
year. Is that correct? A. Name those schools again, Mr.
Chambers.
Q. The Norwood School, the Badin Elementary School,
the North Stanly School, the Oakboro School, and the West
Stanly School. A. I question the Oakboro School. I’d have
to check that. I think the others are correct.
Q. Would you check the figure for the Oakboro School for
the year 1964-65 school year? A. Seventeen.
Q. And the number for the 1965-66 school year?
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The Court: I believe the testimony was before that
the ’64-65 that the Oakboro School was thirty-four
and a half allotted, and ’65-66—
The Witness: That was the West Stanly School,
Your Honor. I believe you said the Oakboro School
at this point.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Yes. A. We had seventeen in ’64-65 and seventeen
in ’65-66.
Q. Now, the increase at West Stanly, are you saying that
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this was an increase in the number of academic teachers?
A. No, sir.
Q. How many teachers were in the academic field in West
Stanly for the 1965-66 school year? A. I don’t have those
figures readily available, but I can say from memory that
we had a reduction in academic teachers at West Stanly,
but an increase in vocational teachers, which actually gave
us an overall increase at this particular school for this year.
Q. Do you know the number of the loss of academic teach
ers at West Stanly? A. I think—here again it’s memory—
but I think it was one.
Q. One? A. Yes. We have lost one, as I recall, one
teacher due to average daily attendance.
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Q. What about North Stanly? A. As I recall, the North
Stanly gained. We had no gain in academic teachers, but
we did have in the vocational area.
The Witness: May I have a glass of water?
The Court: Yes. Would you get Mr. Adams a
glass of water there, please? Do you want a break?
The Witness: No, sir. I could just use a little
water. Thank you.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, you have referred to a change in policy
that the Board adopted approximately two months ago re
garding employment and assignment of teachers. A. Yes.
Q. When was this policy or practice changed? A. The
policy was adopted—well, actually, the policy itself has
been in the developmental stage for perhaps a year or
longer. It was actually adopted just at a recent meeting
within the last month or two.
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Q. Are yon referring—
Mr. Chambers: Yonr Honor, for purposes of
identification, this is an exhibit that was sent to the
plaintiffs by the defendant’s counsel. I am not sure,
but I think the defendants entered it in evidence, but
we would like to examine Mr. Adams with respect to
it now, and if we could get it marked temporarily
as a Plaintiff’s Exhibit, No. 5.
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The Court: If they wanted to have it later marked
as one of their exhibit, why, it can be likewise marked
as a defendant’s exhibit, so you may mark it and
refer to it by its identification number.
(The document above referred to was marked
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 5 for identification.)
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. I show you Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 5 and ask if that
is the new policy change you were referring to? A. That’s
correct.
The Court: Counsel might like to see that before
we go further. If so, you might want to examine it.
I presume it is a copy.
Mr. Doby: Yes, sir, it is.
The Court: All right.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, would you explain generally how this
policy change will be implemented for the 1965-66 school
year? A. Now, that’s the year that we are just concluding.
Q. 1966-67 school year. A. Yes. Basically, the matter
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will be detailed in its entirety to our principals, to whom
I will explain the full policies, the full policy as projected
by the Board and adopted by the Board, and from this ex
planation, from this meeting, then it will be implemented
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from that point at the coming year.
Q. Would you explain to the Court how you will imple
ment the provision in the plan providing for non-racial em
ployment and assignment of personnel? A. Race is no
longer a factor in our employment procedure, Mr. Cham
bers. We ask for no race or no designation of race whatso
ever.
Q. What will be the policy of the Board, or how specifi
cally will the Board proceed to desegregate the teachers
now in the school system?
Mr. Williams: I object, Your Honor. He’s asking
him to give an opinion of another body.
The Court: Sustained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, do you know of your own knowledge how
you will proceed in desegregating the teachers in the school
system? A. Our procedure in employment, Mr. Chambers,
has been outlined in the policy that you have a copy of there.
This will be implemented in this manner. The principals
will conduct the interviews and evaluate the applicants for
the positions that are available that have been allotted to
them, and they will follow the policy procedure as outlined
there in the policy in their interviews, cataloging and so
forth, and make their recommendations.
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Q. Mr. Adams, is it true that you now have only Negro
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teachers at West Badin, Lakeview and South Oakboro
School! A. Yes, to some extent.
Q. What do you mean by to some extent! A. We do
have white teachers who do serve these schools in some
other capacities, in special education areas, perhaps, or
supervision.
The Court: The question was that they only have
Negro or white at these schools, which!
Mr. Chambers: Whether it was true that the
School Board only had Negro teachers at West
Badin, Lakeview and South Oakboro.
The Witness: That’s true.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Is it also true, Mr. Adams, that the School Board has
only white teachers at all the other schools! A. All the
other schools in the county!
Q. Yes. A. No, sir.
Q. Where is the exception! A. I presume now you’re
talking about academic teachers !
Q. Yes. A. At North Stanly.
Q. You have a Negro teacher at North Stanly! A.
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Academic teacher, yes.
Q. And what field is this teacher teaching in! A. United
States history.
Q. Is that the only Negro teacher you have in otherwise
a predominantly white school! A. Yes.
Q. Or entirely white! A. Yes.
Q. When was this teacher hired, Mr. Adams! A ..I be
lieve early January of this year.
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Q. Not at the beginning of the 1965-66 school year? A.
No, sir.
Q. Was this teacher employed in the school system prior
to the 1965-66 school year? A. No.
Q. This teacher now is new to the system? A. Yes.
Q. Does this teacher’s position represent an increase in
the number of teachers at West Stanly? A. North Stanly.
Q. North Stanly? A. No.
Q. You lost a position at North Stanly? A. Yes.
Q. You lost a teacher? A. Yes.
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Q. Now, Mr. Adams, considering the fact that you have
Negroes at, Negro teachers at the three Negro schools we
named and white teachers at white schools with the excep
tion of the one Negro teacher at West Stanly? A. North
Stanly.
Q. North Stanly. How does your staff plan to proceed
with desegregating the schools with respect to teachers?
A. Well, here again, it’s outlined in the policy there or pro
cedure for employing teachers, Mr. Chambers.
Q. Are you referring to the initial employment? A. Yes.
I presume that’s what you’re referring to.
Q. I am referring to the teachers presently in the school
system. Does your staff plan to take any steps to desegre
gate the teachers in these schools now? A. Yes. This is
stated in our plan for compliance, which I believe you have
a copy of also.
Q. Would you pick out the provision in this plan that
would cover desegregation of the teachers now in the school
system? A. Well, now, I don’t follow your line of ques
tioning, Mr. Chambers. Honestly, this procedure would ap
ply to any person applying for a position regardless of
their race. We do not specify by race in here anywhere.
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Q. You are referring, Mr. Adams, to a person making
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an application for employment? A. Yes. Well, now, all
teachers, you understand, must make an application each
year regardless of whether they are new to the system or
not.
Q. Mr. Adams, does your staff plan to take any steps to
move any of the Negro teachers from Lakeview, South Oak-
boro, West Badin to some formerly all-white schools? A.
It depends upon whether they apply and how they apply.
Q. And when are they to apply? A. They are in the
process of doing this now.
Q. How do they apply, Mr. Adams? A. To the princi
pal.
Q. To the principal? A. Yes.
Q. And what happens after they apply to the principal?
A. Then he passes on their application and makes his rec
ommendation.
Q. And who makes the assignment? A. The Board of
Education.
Q. The Board of Education will assign the teacher? A.
Yes.
Q. The teacher will make the application to the principal?
A. Yes.
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Q. The principal will act on the application, and if favor
able, the Board will act on the application and accept the
teacher and employ the teacher, and the Board will assign
the teacher to a school? A. Yes.
Q. Mr. Adams, does your Board envision under the new
statement of policy that teachers will indicate the school
that they will intend—
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Mr. Williams: Object again, Your Honor.
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The Court: Isn’t that a matter—that is a matter
of this record, isn’t it?
Mr. Chambers: Yes, sir.
The Court: All right. Sustained.
By Mr. Adams:
Q. Does your staff envision that teachers will indicate
the school that they are applying to teach at? A. Yes.
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Well, overruled. He said his staff,
and that’s him knowing what someone else is going
to do, but overruled. Go ahead.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. The teachers then indicate the school in which the
teacher is applying for employment? A. A choice, yes.
Q. You are proposing a freedom of choice in respect to
teachers? A. Yes.
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Q. And you now have only Negro principals at the
schools that we referred to, the South Oakboro, the Lake-
view, and the West Badin? A. Yes.
Q. And the teacher is to indicate in an application to the
principal a school that the teacher would like to teach at?
A. Yes.
Q. Is that different from what the Board did last year?
A. Yes.
Q. How does it differ? A. The Board did not last year
require a teacher to stipulate a school, a choice of school.
They merely applied for work in the system or school in
which they were presently employed.
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Q. The Board did not require the teacher to indicate
the school? A. Yes.
Q. It did not require? A. It did not, no. Yes.
Q. Mr. Adams, what do you mean by desegregation of
schools ?
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Mr. Williams: Objection, Your Honor.
The Court: Just a minute. G-entlemen, wouldn’t
it he a proper question—
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, I ’ll rephrase that.
The Court: All right. He withdraws the question.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, I show you Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 5, para
graph 5, in the mechanics—or the administration and exe
cution of the policy and the plan, and ask how the paragraph
—would you read paragraph 5? A. “The superintendent
shall distribute and assign all teachers and auxiliary per
sonnel among the several schools of the administrative unit,
and he shall make such distribution and assignment with
out regard to race, color or national origin.”
Q. Would you explain how the superintendent will im
plement that policy? A. Yes. The applications as they
come to me from the principals with their recommendation
will be acted upon in that manner. If the principal has rec
ommended to me that we assign a particular teacher to a
particular school, we will follow his recommendation.
Q. Is the principal to recommend that a teacher be as
signed to a particular school? A. No. This is a choice
matter. Of course, if the principal himself is interested in
employing a teacher, a particular teacher, then he would
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recommend that teacher for his school, and more than likely,
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this teacher would he assigned there, if that was the par
ticular teacher’s choice.
Q. Would you state, specifically, Mr. Adams, how this
will occur ? Is the teacher to first indicate a choice of school,
and then the principal act and recommend that the teacher
he assigned back to the school? A. The form is here that
we plan to use, that we will put into operation, is that she
fills out the application which would state her choice of
schools, first, second or third choice—I don’t think you have
a copy of it here—but this is the procedure, the application
form which she would use, that is teachers presently em
ployed, and upon her application and her expression of a
choice of schools, one, two, three, whichever it may be, then
the principal, if he is interested in that particular teacher
to the point that she has requested, say to school number
one, if he happens to be principal of school number one, then
he would recommend this teacher be employed and assigned
to that particular school. This is in order to achieve com
patibility between the principal and the teacher.
The Court: That is your Exhibit No. 5?
Mr. Chambers: Number 5.
The Court: What paragraph was that?
Mr. Chambers: Paragraph 5.
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, does your office plan to take any steps if,
following the procedure that you have stated that you plan
to follow, you end up with the same result in the racial com
position of teachers in the school for the 1966-67 school
year?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Overruled. You may go ahead.
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A. Mr. Chambers, this would just he hypothetical. I
wouldn’t know. This would he theoretical, really. We have
no way of knowing. This would just he a pure guess.
Q. At present, you know of no steps that your office plans
to take, that you plan to take if you end up again with all
Negro teachers at South Oakboro, West Badin and Lake-
view? A. Well, I think I might interject this, that if we
have a plan at this point, it is not perfected, because we
haven’t reached the point to where this is a problem, or
perhaps imminent even.
Q. I’m asking, Mr. Adams, though, if you know at present
of any steps you plan to take if the South Oakboro, West
Badin, and Lakeview School end up for the 1966-67 school
year with the same racial composition as this year ? A. No.
Q. Now, Mr. Adams, I show you Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 2,
the depositions of Mr. Adams, on page 49, about middleway
to the page, and ask you to read beginning with the question
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in the middle of the page, what appears on that page. A.
“Under the state system—” this is the question, “Under the
state system for the 1965-66 school year, the concept at
least is that all teachers belong to one school system and
may be assigned by the school system to schools in the
school system? Answer: That’s correct. Question: Do you
have a Negro principal at any of the white or predominantly
white schools? Answer: No. Do you have a white
principal at any of the Negro or predominantly Negro
school? Answer: No. Question: In other words, your as
signment for this school year is basically the same as for
last year? That is, you have white at white schools and
Negro at Negro schools? Answer: We have no assignment
of teachers based on race.”
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Okay. Mr. Adams, I ask yon if that isn’t basically
what yon testified that yon propose to follow for the 1966-
67 school year?
Mr. Williams: Object to that, Your Honor. He’s
taking something out to try to get the meaning of the
testimony by another question. I don’t think that’s
competent.
The Court: Overruled.
A. Would you restate your question, please? I still don’t
follow.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Do you view for the 1966-67 school year the school
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system as one school system in which teachers may be as
signed to any school in the school system? A. Yes.
Q. Do you not propose, or does your policy provision pro
vide that teachers will be assigned without regard to race
or color? A. Yes.
Q. My question is, isn’t that basically the same that you
followed for the 1965-66 school year? A. We had no policy
then.
Q. Did you follow that practice for the 1965-66 school
year? A. I presume so, yes.
Q. Is your answer that you did follow the practice? A.
Yes.
Q. And the result in the 1965-66 school year was as we
stated, that is, Negro teachers at Negro schools and white
teachers at white schools? A. With some exceptions.
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Q. The one exception yon referred to? A. Yes, and then
of course, as we mentioned earlier, there are white teachers
teaching in predominantly Negro schools or what were pre
dominantly Negro schools in some areas of driver educa
tion, supervision.
Q. You do not mean an academic field? A. Well, it’s
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all academic, I presume.
Q. Is it full-time employment ? A. Yes.
Q. Is it full-time employment at the school? A. Yes. If
it’s driver education, the teacher teaching at the West Badin
School, it would be full-time, yes.
Q. Do you have a white teacher teaching in the West
Badin School driver education? A. Yes.
Q. Does the teacher also teach at another school? A.
Yes.
Q. So the teacher does not teach full-time at West Badin?
A. Well, yes, whatever time he requires to do the particular
teaching job, he’s a full-time teacher, employed twelve
months.
Q. The teacher doesn’t go there with the other teachers
at eight something in the morning and leave at three some
thing in the afternoon. Is that correct? A. Yes. If he
happens to be teaching a group at West Badin, he goes there
in the morning and spends the day, yes.
Q. I see. Now, would you state the name of the driver
education teacher at West Badin? A. Well, this varies,
but I believe at this point, Mr. Brown is doing this par-
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ticular work.
Q. Now, where else does Mr. Brown teach? A. He
teaches, these teachers are assigned through the Board of
Education office to the particular schools.
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Q. Where else does Mr. Brown teach? A. He teaches in
all the schools, wherever the driver education is needed.
Q. He teaches in all the schools in the school system?
A. If needed, yes. However, he’s teaching now only at
North Stanly and at West Badin.
Q. Now he teaches at North Stanly and West Badin?
A. Yes.
Q. How frequently during the week is Mr. Brown at West
Badin? A. Well, if he’s teaching there, he’s there all week.
Q. And how frequently does he teach there during the
month? Does he teach there every week during each month?
A. Well, yes. You see, driver education is set up on a
thirty-six hour basis.
Q. Does Mr. Brown teach five days a week each month
at West Badin? A. Yes.
Q. For the full day each month? A. Yes, when he’s
teaching at West Badin.
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Q. When does he teach at North Stanly? A. When he’s
assigned to that particular school.
Q. And when is he assigned to that school? A. It de
pends upon the number of students that we have that need
driver education.
Q. Is Mr. Brown teaching at North Stanly now? A. Yes.
Q. Is he teaching at West Badin now? A. I don’t be
lieve so, no.
Q. Who teaches drive education at West Badin now? A.
The classes are completed there now.
Q. The classes are completed? A. Yes, so far as I know.
Q. Who taught driver education at West Badin? A.
Well, we’ve had—you mean last?
Q. During the year 1965-66? A. Mr. Brown, I believe.
I think Mr. Brown was assigned to this particular school.
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Q. He taught a full year? A. Well, here again, no.
What I’m trying to say is that the driver education program
is one that is county-wide.
Q. I understand that. Mr. Brown did not teach a full
year at West Badin? A. We have three teachers to teach
driver education on a twelve-months basis for about 800
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children who turn sixteen each year.
Q. And these teachers do not spend a full day at either
of these schools? A. It would he impossible. Well, yes,
now, wait—no. They would if they were teaching in this
particular school.
Q. But they do not teach at any particular school for the
full year? A. If necessary, yes.
Q. Is it necessary or was it necessary for the 1965-66
school year? A. For which school?
Q. Any of the schools, Mr. Adams? A. Oh, yes.
Q. Was it necessary at West Badin? A. No.
Q. Thank you. Now, what other white teacher teaches
or has taught at West Badin, teaches or has taught at
West Badin? A. Well, here again, I’m drawing on mem
ory, but I think Mr. Brown, our driver education man who
handles this for us and is our driver education supervisor,
would be in a better position to answer this than I, but
I’m thinking now that it was Mr. Brown who did this par
ticular year, and you must understand—
Q. You’re talking about driver education? A. Yes. You
must understand that Mr. Brown is meeting the needs of
just a few children at West Badin.
Q. I understand, Mr. Adams, but is there another white
teacher who teaches or has taught at West Badin? A. I
couldn’t say.
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Q. During your tenure as superintendent? A. It’s pos
sible, but I couldn’t say.
Q. You do not know of any instances. Is that correct?
A. I can’t recall, no, sir.
Q. Is there a white teacher who teaches or who has taught
at South Oakboro during your time as superintendent of
the schools? A. No, sir.
Q. Is there a white teacher who teaches or has taught at
Lakeview? A. No.
Q. Now, again, going back to my question, the results
for the 1965-66 school year following the practice that you
stated a moment ago was that all Negro teachers were at
Negro schools and white teachers were at white schools.
Is that correct? A. Are you saying this is the way it
resulted?
Q. Yes. A. It’s evident, yes.
Q. Thank you. Now, what factors or what consideration
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ha s the Board given, or has the Board considered in finding
that this practice might result in anything other than what
it did for the 1965-66 school year? A. I don’t know that the
Board has done anything in that regard other than to try
to implement its policies that have been adopted just re
cently and trying to follow its plan of compliance that
has been approved by the Office of Education in Washing
ton.
Q. And you stated, did you not, Mr. Adams, that the
practice you proposed here is in fact the same practice
you followed for the 1965— A. I did not state that.
Q. The procedure in considering this one school system
and permitting the teachers to indicate the school that
they wanted to teach at? A. That’s the practice that we
are following this coming year.
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Q. Is that not the practice yon propose for the next
school year? A. No. This policy that we are talking
about now, Mr. Chambers, has just been instituted this
year for implementation this coming year. Now, we have
employed teachers in years past, as you know, based upon
their applications and recommendation of the principal,
which has resulted, as you stated, in Negroes being assigned
to Negro schools, or what were Negro schools, and white
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teachers to what were white schools.
Q. How specifically, Mr. Adams, do you plan, or does
the Board plan, or does this plan here envision you will
change that policy for the 1966-67 school year? A. Well,
there are no pre-rates in it, so to speak. A teacher can
apply to teach in any school in our system.
Q. Could the teacher apply to teach in any school in
the system for the 1965-66 school year? A. Yes.
Q. Is that a change from what you propose to follow
for the ’66-67 school year? A. No.
Q. Is there another specific that you can state here that
would differ from what you followed in 1965-66? A. You
keep referring to ’65 and ’66, and ’66 and ’67, you must
understand that we had no written policy at that point in
’65-66.
Q. Are you stating, then, Mr. Adams, that all you have
done here in this proposal is to write up what you have
followed in the past? A. No, sir. I think this goes far
beyond that.
Q. How does it go far beyond that? A. In that we have
a set procedure established here to determine as best we
can where the teacher wants to teach, what his or her quali-
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fications are, his competence, his training, his personality,
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his conversational ability, his appearance, all these things
that go to making np a good teacher we are trying to evalu
ate before we place them in the system.
Q. I see. And yon did not follow that practice last
year? A. We followed the practice to some degree, yes,
certainly, because we were trying to get the best teacher
we could. Maybe we did not have it as a written policy,
however.
Q. And that is the difference you mentioned, which you
mentioned between what took place last year and previous
years and what you plan to follow for ’66 and ’67? A.
Basically, yes.
Q. Now, Mr. Adams, I show you again Plaintiff’s Ex
hibit No. 5 and refer you to Roman Number III, or the
teacher interview record, and ask you to read that pro
vision. A. “III. Is applicant willing to teach in the follow
ing situations,” and they are to check one, “Integrated,
All-White, or All-Colored.”
Q. Now, do you propose for the 1966-67 school year to
have all-white and all-colored schools? A. Under the plan
adopted and approved by the U. S. Office of Education, I
suspect this will perhaps happen.
Q. That you will have all-white and all-Negro schools?
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A. This is a possibility.
Q. Mr. Adams, suppose a teacher indicates, that an ap
plicant indicates that she is Avilling to teach only in an all-
white school. Do you plan to employ the teacher?
Mr. Williams : Objection, Your Honor. It will have
to be passed over among a number of things.
The Court: I don’t think that would be a proper
question. Besides, he doesn’t actually do the hiring.
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Isn’t the Board ultimately the one that makes a de
termination upon your recommendation?
The Witness: Yes, the Board. I make the recom
mendation to the Board of Education who in turn
either approves it or disapproves it.
The Court: All right. Sustained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, with all of the factors that you refer to
here in this are acceptable, and the applicant indicates that
she is willing to teach only in an all-white school, do you
plan to propose to recommend her?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Overruled.
A. She’s willing—she was what?
Mr. Williams: I object to that, Your Honor. They
ask the man what he proposes to do, to project some
thing out in the future that’s based upon a whole lot
of facts, to say now what he proposes to do there now
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then, and the answer, I think, is just going beyond
the stretch of the competency of evidence.
The Court: Well, I had my doubts, Mr. Williams,
about it. However, heretofore, seemingly, the an
swer kindly took care of itself. As I understand this,
Mr. Chambers, to have him now state that he would,
it has got to he a comparative sort of thing, as I
understand it. The Board is supposed to consider
these teachers without regard to race, and purely on
their qualifications. Now the question is, assuming
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that on that form, everything should be favorable
and a Negro teacher applies and says that I will teach
only in a white school, the question then is will you
recommend hiring her, that he or she be hired. Well,
of course, that presupposes that qualification-wise,
that that teacher is better qualified than the other.
In that sense, isn’t it an improper question!
Mr. Chambers: No, sir, Your Honor. We think
that the question goes not only to the point of where
the Board has employed teachers without regard to
race and on the basis of qualification alone, but to
the point of the right of the teacher. Now, we have
a teacher involved in this litigation to insist com
plete non-racial consideration by the Board, and the
employment and assignment of personnel. We sub
mit that the teacher has this right, and that no state
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agency can validly carry on or practice such a policy.
Now, what the Board has as one of its questions, we
can see no valid reason at all for this question. In
fact, we see it as intimidation to the Negro teacher
under the circumstances that exist in Stanly County.
Where the Board asks a teacher do you want to
teach in an integrated school, an all-white school, or
an all-Negro school, why is this a valid consideration
by a state agency? We submit that it isn’t, and we
submit further that the plaintiff here, an employee
or former employee, has a standing to insist that
this practice be continued by the state agency.
Mr. Williams: Our answer to that is, may it please
the Court, that the teacher simply because that she
says she would not like to teach in this type of
school or that type of school, would not be discrimi-
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natory if the Board would not follow the suggestion.
In other words, the Board would not want a situa
tion where a teacher was coming into the system to
get placed at a place other than she’d like to he. If
the Board could assign them, if placing her there,
would make it disagreeable for the reason that she
would want as far as possible to have a system
whereby the individual’s choice could be granted as
much as possible, and if she would say she would
not want to teach in this particular situation, then
the Board ought to have some discretion as to
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whether or not the refusal to employ would be dis
criminatory. It certainly wouldn’t, and it occurs to
me, and I don’t say where his question here, on what
he proposes to do, could be answered not until the
thing happened, and it occurs, and if what he does
then, of course, is discriminatory, then having—I
think now he’s trying to stake him out on something
that may happen in the future.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, I think Mr. Williams
brought out the exact point that we are talking about.
If the Board—and our question to Mr. Adams was
that under the plan proposed by the Board here,
whether they would consider these factors and in an
attempt to give the teacher this type of choice in the
school system, we submit that that would be violat
ing the rights of this plaintiff and others similarly
situated, and if Mr. Adams knows at this time—ap
parently they are sending out these forms now—this
is Mr. Adams’ testimony that they are already get
ting these forms back, the teachers are indicating
this choice, and our question was whether they plan
to honor this type of choice by a teacher.
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The Witness: Mr. Chambers—
The Court: Just a minute. I’m going to overrule
the objection. Go ahead.
By the Witness:
A. This, you’re talking about something to be implemented
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next year, this policy you’re on now. Now, the purpose in
this particular question is to try to place the best teacher
that we can find in the best situation that we can find for
them, so that their success as a teacher is our first concern.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Going back again, Mr. Adams, to the question, do you
plan to consider this indication as a factor in assigning or
employing a teacher? A. Well, as I understand the ques
tion, if a Negro teacher indicated that she would teach in a
white school, would we recommend it?
Q. Yes. A. Absolutely.
Q. And if a white teacher indicates that she would teach
only in a white school, would you recommend it? A. Yes.
Q. To the white school? A. Yes.
Q. And if a Negro teacher indicated that she would teach
only in a Negro school, would you grant it? A. I would
say this. These are relevant factors which would have to be
considered if you are thinking in terms of success of the
teacher and what we are trying to do in the classroom.
Q. There’s an indication of the racial composition in the
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school in which they would teach? A. Yes. You have got
to be practical.
The Court: Mr. Chambers, I’m not trying to re
strict your examination, but how much longer do you
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think we’ll be entailed with Mr. Adams ? If it is some
considerable time, we usually take one break in the
afternoon, and it is a little past that time. We might
take it now. But if on the other hand, you are going
to be able to conclude in the next five or ten minutes,
we might go ahead.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, I think we would
have about fifteen or twenty more minutes with Mr.
Adams.
The Court: All right. Let’s take just an unde
clared recess.
(A recess was taken.)
The Court: All right. Mr. Adams, if you will re
turn to the stand. Mr. Chambers—
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, would you state the procedure followed
by the Board for the 1965-66 school year, the previous
school year, employing principals of various schools? A.
Yes. Basically, the job of employing principals followed
this procedure. The district school committee, which each
district within our county had a committee serving this
district, would recommend or nominate a principal, and in
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turn, this nomination or recommendation would be pre
sented to the superintendent and Board of Education for
approval.
Q. Would you state the procedure you propose to follow
for the 1966-67 school year? A. Yes. The superintendent
will recommend or nominate the principal of the various
schools, and the Board of Education will elect.
Q. Will the principal apply for a particular school or
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apply in the school system for a job? A. This is permis
sive. He may apply for a particular school, or he may ap
ply for one of several schools.
Q. Is there a recommended procedure? A. No.
Q. In applying? A. No.
Q. Is there a standard procedure in applying, or a pro
cedure that one would follow generally? A. Yes. See, a
principal could apply to the superintendent—now, you’re
speaking of next year?
Q. Yes. A. Yes. Next year the principal would apply
directly to the superintendent.
Q. For a particular school? A. This could he true, or it
could be applying for a position that might not be available
at that time, seeking consideration.
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Q. Mr. Adams, the proposal that we have considered as
Plaintiff’s Exhibit 5, has this been presented to the Depart
ment of Health, Education and Welfare under the Title VI
provision? A. No. Not to my knowledge. We have signed
Form 441-B, which implements any changes in our com
pliance plan, and this has been filed with the Office of Edu
cation.
Q. The Form 441-B? A. Yes.
Q. Is it true, Mr. Adams, that the new guidelines of the
Department require specific steps by school boards in elimi
nating racial discrimination with respect to teachers?
Mr. Williams: Object, Your Honor. Whatever
those guidelines are, they’ll speak for themselves.
The Court: Sustained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, in reference to the new guidelines, is the
proposal that is represented by Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 5
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adopted pursuant to the new guidelines? A. To some ex
tent, yes.
Q. Is there any other proposal or plan that the Board has
adopted for compliance with respect to the teachers with
the new guidelines? A. No. This is the only new pro
cedure that we are implementing.
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Q. Has the Board taken any specific steps other than
this plan, Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 5, to eliminate the prior
practices in the racial composition of the schools? A. No.
This is part of our plan and procedure, and we are comply
ing with the rules and regulations under Title VI of the
Civil Rights Law, and we are trying to eliminate from our
system.
Q. There is no other specific plan or steps that have been
adopted by the Board to comply with that set of new guide
lines? A. (No answer)
Q. Mr. Adams, did you have occasion to visit Kingsville
School at the close of the 1964-65 school year? A. Yes.
Q. To talk with the students there? A. Yes.
Q. What was your purpose for talking with the students
on that occasion?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Is Kingsville a school in your—
The Witness: No, sir. That is in the Albemarle
City, Your Honor.
The Court: Not in your city?
The Witness: No.
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Mr. Chambers: I think I can lay some foundation
for that.
The Court: I should think you would have to be
fore that would be competent. All right. Sustained.
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But you may go ahead and see if there’s some founda
tion you can lay for it.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Were any students from the Stanly County school dis
trict assigned to the Kingsville School for the 1964-65 school
year? A. Yes.
Q. Approximately how many students? A. I believe
around 225 or so. I’m not sure whether this is just elemen
tary or elementary and high school, but I think it was
around 225.
Q. And these were students over which the Stanly County
Board exercised jurisdiction? A. They resided in the
Stanly County administrative unit, yes.
Q. Now, going hack to the question, Mr. Adams, what
was the purpose of your visit to the Kingsville School at
the close of the 1964-65 school year?
Mr. Williams: I still object, Your Honor.
The Court: I fail to see what this would have to
do with the issue that we have before us, Mr. Cham
bers.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, I would agree at
present that there might be some question about the
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relevancy here, but I think if we were permitted to
proceed, I think we’ll be able to tie it in with the
particular issue here before the Court.
The Court: If we run down every one of these
avenues that these school people go out, why, we cer
tainly will open up Pandora’s box.
Mr. Chambers: I think I have just about three
questions here, if I may go ahead for just a minute.
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The Court: Overruled. Co ahead, and let’s see
what it is. The question was for what purposes did
you go there!
A. I was invited to the Kingsville School by the superin
tendent of the Albemarle City administrative unit to ex
plain the plan for compliance which our Board had adopted
relative to the Civil Eights of 1964.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Do you recall making any statement at that meeting
relative to the employment of Negro teachers in the Stanly
County school system! A. I don’t recall—in fact, I don’t
believe the teacher matter was an issue at all.
Q. Do you recall any statement at that meeting relative
to the employment of Negro teachers if a Negro student re
quested transfer to a white school? A. No, sir. I don’t re
call. I don’t recall discussing the faculties at all with the
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children.
Q. Do you recall making a statement to the effect at
that meeting that if Negro students requested transfer to
white schools in the Stanly County system that Negro
teachers would lose their jobs? A. No, I did not make any
statement such as that.
Q. Do you recall making a statement to the effect at
that meeting that you did not plan to employ Negro
teachers in white schools? A. No.
Mr. 'Williams: Objection, Your Honor.
The Court: Sustained.
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, going to Mrs. Wall, you have testified
in depositions that you received a. reduction of allotment
or of Negro teachers—no, an allotment of teachers at Lake-
view School. Is it true that prior to this, Mrs. Wall had
been recommended for employment by the principal of
Lake view School1? A. I think all that, too, is in the depo
sition, Mr. Chambers.
Q. I know, but would you state whether or not that is
true? A. Now, Mrs. Wall had applied for work, that’s
true.
Q. Is it true, Mr. Adams, that Mrs. Wall had been recom
mended by the principal of Lakeview School for employ-
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ment for the 1965-66 school year? A. Yes.
Q. Is it true, Mr. Adams, that the Board of Education
had acted upon her application and approved her for
employment for the 1965-66 school year? A. Yes, con
tingent upon the allocation for these positions being al
lotted to this particular school.
Q. It is true, however, that she was approved by the
Board? A. Yes.
Q. Now, Mr. Adams, you referred in your deposition—
strike that—Following the allocation of the teachers in
the school system for the 1965-66 school year, is it true
that Mrs. Wall was not recommended by Mr. McLendon?
A. I didn’t follow you at the beginning of your question,
Mr. Chambers. I’m sorry.
Q. Following the allotment of teachers for the 1965-66
school year, is it true that Mrs. Wall was not recommended
by Mr. McLendon, the principal of Lakeview School? A.
Yes.
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Q. Do you know the reason why she was not recom
mended? A. Yes. Basically, what Mr. McLendon stated
to me was he had had some difficulty with her over the
past two years, that she seemed to he, to create problems
for him, that she was more of a trouble-maker for him
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than perhaps he could manage at that time.
Q. Now, did he state, Mr. Adams, that this criticism
was something that existed prior to his recommendation of
her for the ’65-66 school year? A. Yes.
Q. And in view of that, he recommended her for employ
ment? A. Yes.
Q. Did you know of any reason why Mrs. Wall should
not have been recommended? A. My first encounter with
Mr. McLendon regarding Mrs. Wall was the first year
that he was principal at this school, and I happened to be
there on a visit, and I asked him how things were getting
along, and he stated fine, that he was getting along all
right, but he said that he was having some difficulty with
one of his teachers, and I asked him who it was and he
said Mrs. Wall, and I said, ‘Well, what type of difficulty?
What is involved,” and he said, ‘Well, I just can’t get
her to do things that I ask her to do. I ’ve asked her to
take children to the cafeteria and supervise them during
the lunch period, and she just flatly refuses to do it.”
I said, “Well, Mr. McLendon, maybe perhaps you need to
work with her a little and talk with her and encourage
her and try to solve the thing in that manner, that per
haps it is just a passing thing that you can work out.”
That was my first experience or encounter rather with
Mr. McLendon when he mentioned specifically Mrs. Wall
and her deficiencies.
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The Court: And about when was that?
The Witness: This was the first year he was
principal, which was, I believe—Mrs. Wall taught
for him for two years. This was the first year of
her employment. It was my first year in the system,
1963-64.
The Court: All right.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. You state that was your first encounter. Was there
a second? A. Yes, when he discussed her, his failure to
recommend her.
Q. Is that the—are these the only two times that you
discussed this with Mr. McLendon? A. No, not at all.
We talked, of course, I don’t recall all of these things be
cause we discussed various teachers throughout the year,
with seventeen different principals, and it’s difficult to re
member all the little encounters that you have with prin
cipals, but I do remember that there were two or three
or four times that she was mentioned.
Q. Do you remember another specific incident when she
was mentioned? A. I recall one incident that came up, and
I don’t remember just exactly who was involved, but there
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were principals, and I believe there was Mr. Hearns and
Mr. Williams. I asked them about an occasion which
evidently took place at South Oakboro when Mrs. Wall
left that school to go somewhere else to work, and I was
just inquiring as to facts.
Q. What was that incident? A. This was an occasion,
as I understood it, that Mrs. Wall left the employment of
the South Oakboro School either voluntarily or otherwise,
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and I understood that she had employed an attorney or
engaged an attorney to discuss the matter, and I was just
trying to find out exactly what this matter was from these
two gentlemen who I thought perhaps might have some in
formation.
Q. Did you find out what it was? A. No, sir. In fact,
one of them, Mr. Williams, said he had no knowledge of
her having engaged an attorney at this point.
Q. What year was that, Mr. Adams? A. This was evi
dently before I came into the system.
Q. And why were you trying to find out at this time
something about her— A. Mr. Chambers, I think mainly
for this reason. I had begun, as you often do, in this
work, I had heard of—well, for lack of a better word, her
reputation as a teacher and as perhaps a trouble-maker,
and that her employment record was such that it com-
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manded my attention. I just wanted to find out if there
were facts involved, if there were reasons that she had
moved from one school to another over a period of several
years and why.
Q. Did you find out any reason? A. To the best of
my knowldege, yes. Basically I got the same indication
from all sources, and that was that Mrs. Wall usually got
along well the first year in the school that she was employed
in, but the second year seemed to be the one that reached
a climax between her and the principal and perhaps the
other teachers, that she created an atmosphere that just
wasn’t conducive to a wholesome program, and the princi
pals just felt like the school would be better off without her
in their program.
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Q. Was she in the school system for thirteen years? A.
That’s correct.
Q. Did you have occasion to approve or disapprove Mr.
McLendon’s recommendation at the close of the 1965-66
school year? A. Yes.
Q. And did you recommend her to the Board? A. Yes.
Q. Did you follow up Mr. McLendon’s first encounter
with you, in his discussion with you about Mrs. Wall? A.
On the cafeterial matter?
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Q. Yes. A. Yes. We discussed it, I think, more just
in passing than specifically, but I gathered from talking
with him later that he had just overlooked this and just
from what I gathered, he said, what I remember him say
ing, was this, that he thought it best just to tolerate it,
that when he did wish to explain something to her or dis
cuss something with her, that oftentimes it would cause
her to have to leave school to go to the doctor or to the
hospital for, evidently from what he said, to—he didn’t
know the reason, she would just have to leave, and this
was of some concern to him, that she would have to leave
school quite often when he would have to have a conference
with her.
Q. Was there anything else specifically that he referred
to? A. The only other thing that I recall is that he would
require her, or all his staff, to attend P.T.A. meetings and
other functions that were of a school-sponsored nature,
and that Mrs. Wall, if she chose to, would attend and if she
did not, she did not, and he would oftentimes, as he said
in expressing it to me, fail to say something to her for
fear it would provoke another incident where she would
have to leave to go back to the doctor or to leave school
for some purpose.
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Q. Did yon investigate that any further than you dis-
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cussed it with Mr. McLendon? A. No, sir. I assumed
that he knew what he was talking about.
Q. And you accepted what he said? A. Absolutely, yes.
Q. Now, Mr. Adams, you knew of these things at the
close of the 1964-65 school year? A. Yes.
Q. Will you explain to the Court why you recommended
her to the school board for employment for the 1965-66
school year? A. Yes. Basically because at this point, the
teacher situation being what it is, we often recommend
people that perhaps aren’t as strong as we would like them
to be for fear that if we have to replace a particular person,
and we don’t do this unless it is absolute necessary, we
may get someone even weaker.
Q. Now, at the close of the 1965—’64-65 school year, you
had several applicants for these positions at the elementary
schools. Is that correct? A. Yes.
Q. And you had the applications at the time you recom
mended Mrs. Wall for employment? A. Well, here again,
this would be a guess, but we have applications of course
all along.
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Q. Now, do you recall the testimony of Mr. McLendon
at the deposition? A. Vaguely. It’s been about a year.
Q. Just about. I refer you to Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 2.
Mr. Doby: We object, Your Honor. As I under
stand it, this is Mr. McLendon’s deposition rather
than the witness’s.
The Court: Well, let’s see what his question is,
and then I’ll rule on it. All right.
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Q. I refer yon to Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 2, page 41, at the
bottom of the page. Would you read the question and an
swer appearing there?
Mr. Doby: Object.
The Court: Just a minute. These depositions are,
I presume, going to be offered in evidence, gentle
men, and I assume they are proper evidence. What
is it, that to read it out of context with the other, Mr.
Doby? What is the objection here? Just in reading,
now. That’s the question now.
Mr. Doby: As I understand it, as yet these deposi
tions have not been offered in evidence. He cannot,
as I understand it, as I understand the Rule, intro
duce any part without introducing other parts. He’s
made no indication in his Pretrial Order that he
would just introduce a part of the whole. Now, I
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don’t know what he’s offering this for. Is it not the
deposition of Mr. McLendon?
Mr. Chambers : It is, and Your Honor—
Mr. Doby: I fail to see how he can use the deposi
tion of Mr. McLendon to interrogate the witness Mr.
Adams.
The Court: I don’t know just where he’s going.
Are you planning to introduce these?
Mr. Chambers: Yes, sir. We plan to introduce all
of the exhibits that we had marked. If it would help,
I will tender those now in evidence.
The Court: All right. He is tendering Plaintiff’s
Exhibit No. 2, which consists of the depositions of
Robert McLendon, Gr. L. Hines, Reece B. McSwain,
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By Mr. Chambers:
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and Audrey Gillis Wall. Does the defendant object
to the materiality of those ?
Mr. Doby: No, sir, we will not.
The Court: Let the record show that Plaintiff’s
Exhibit No. 2, consisting of those depositions, is re
ceived into the evidence.
(The documents above referred to, heretofore
marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 2 for identifi
cation, were received in evidence.)
The Court: Mr. Doby, having gone past that step,
are you still—do you still object to this method?
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Mr. Doby: Yes. We object to using the testimony
of another witness to interrogate this witness.
The Court: I am going to sustain that objection.
If there is some part of this that you want to read
and ask this witness something about it—but I just
don’t know where we are proceeding from.
Mr. Chambers: That was my purpose, Your Honor.
I was just going to ask him about a statement that
Mr. McLendon made and ask him if he would agree
with that statement. That was simply the purpose of
that.
Mr. Doby: Objection.
The Court: I sustain that, then. You might ask
him his opinion of whatever that is about, but I don’t
believe it would be proper to ask him to read some
thing and then ask him if he agreed with that par
ticular witness’s statement about it. You can ap
proach it in another way certainly.
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Q. Mr. Adams, did yon have several applicants that ap
plied for elementary teaching positions at the close of 1964-
65 season? A. Yes. And I believe we have furnished you
a copy of all of those.
Q. I’m not sure— A. You requested them some time
ago.
Q. Persons who applied for teaching positions? A. We
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furnished you a list of all teachers who taught in the system
the previous years—well, it was the current year—and their
qualifications, their term and length of employment, and
that sort of thing. I think you have that in the record.
Q. You are referring to Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 1, I be
lieve, the answers to interrogatories? A. Yes. Here it is.
Here’s part of it.
Q. Does that exhibit also show the new teachers who ap
plied for employment in the elementary grades? A. Mr.
Chambers, I’m just thinking now back—I thought we had
provided you with a list of teachers who had applied.
Q. I think, Mr. Adams, you have answered the question
that you did have several applications? A. Oh, yes. Quite
naturally.
Q. Mr. Adams, did you have occasion in the Stanly
County School System to consolidate schools in the past?
A. Did I?
Q. Did the School Board? A. The School Board did,
yes.
Q. Would you state the schools that were consolidated?
The Court: Can we restrict that to recent years
or something?
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By Mr. Chambers:
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Q. Since 1954. A. Yes. I am thinking out loud, now.
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We consolidated all or several of our small high schools,
or all of our small high schools actually except one into
three consolidated high schools. This was done, I believe
the first year we were in them was in 1962-63.
Q. Following consolidation, how were these schools
staffed? A. Of course, here again I am speaking about
something I know little about, because I wasn’t there when
this was done, but in discussing it—-
Mr. Doby: We object.
The Court: If it’s something he doesn’t know
about, that’s sustained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Did you have occasion, Mr. Adams, to examine the
records of the Board to determine how these schools were
staffed? A. I made no effort to, no, sir.
Q. Do you know of your own knowledge how they were
staffed? A. Yes. I think, from what I’ve been told, yes.
Mr. Doby: Object.
The Court: Sustained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Have you had occasion to consolidate any schools since
you’ve been superintendent? A. No.
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Q. Have you had occasion to move a teacher from one
school to another since you’ve been superintendent? A.
Now, I don’t follow you—by move—
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By Mr. Chambers:
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Q. To assign a teacher from one school to another school
in the school system? A. Oh, yes. Where a teacher might
have taught in one school one year and perhaps tanght in
another the next?
Q. Yes. A. Yes.
Q. Has that been done on several occasions? A. I would
think so.
Q. How was the teacher transferred? A. The teacher
would make application to the principal of the particular
school that she was interested in teaching and upon recom
mendation of the principal, we would assign that teacher
to that particular school.
Q. Was that a written application? A. Yes.
The Court: How long have you been a superin
tendent in the Stanly County System?
The Witness: I am completing three years, Your
Honor, in July.-
The Court: All right.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Adams, when the teacher allotment at Lakeview
School was reduced from the previous year and Mr. Mc-
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Lendon stated that Mrs. Adams was one of the teachers
selected not to be employed for the following school year,
did you inquire of the procedure that Mr. McLendon fol
lowed in reaching this conclusion? A. I presume you are
referring to Mrs. Wall instead of Mrs. Adams?
Q. Mrs. Wall. A. Yes.
Q. Yes? A. I inquired to the extent that he came to me
with his recommendation, and I asked him to explain to
me what his reasons were, yes.
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Q. Mr. Adams, of your own knowledge, was there any
comparison between Mrs. Wall and other elementary
school teachers in the school system! A. Presumably so,
yes.
Q. Now, would you explain what you mean by presumably
so! A. Well, the principal must evaluate all the appli
cants that he has for his positions.
Q. No, I’m asking about all the other teachers in the
school system, not just the teachers at Lakeview but all
the teachers in the elementary grades in the school system.
A. Did we do what not!
Q. Did you make any evaluation or comparison between
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Mrs. Wall and the other teachers in the school system, or
the elementary teachers! A. No. We don’t have a habit
of comparing teachers.
Q. You did not compare Mrs. Wall with the other teach
ers in the school system! A. No, not in the sense that you
are asking.
Q. Did you make any further investigation beyond Mr.
McLendon’s statement concerning Mrs. Wall’s qualification
and performance as a teacher! A. No, other than to be
convinced myself that Mr. McLendon had evaluated prop
erly her as a teacher, and he was sharing this evaluation
with me.
Q. How were you convinced! How did you convince
yourself! A. Well, I rely greatly on the judgment of our
principals in matters such as this.
Q. Was that the extent of your investigation! A. Yes.
Q. With the reduction in allotment of teachers at the
Lakeview School and the reduction in the allotment of
teachers at West Badin, this meant, did it not, that the
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Negro teaching positions had been reduced in the Stanly
County School System? A. This year? In ’65-66?
Q. Yes. A. No.
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Q. Why did it not? A. The teacher allotment this year
was based on one-district principle in which the State
Board of Education allocated teachers to the system with
out regard to race or color.
Q. The State Board allotted teachers to the system? A.
Yes.
Q. The School Board allotted teachers to the schools?
A. Yes.
Q. And you had only Negro teachers at the three schools
we referred to, Lakeview, West Badin, and South Oakboro?
A. Not in its entirely. We mentioned a moment ago, we
have some others. We have a speech therapist, for instance,
that works in the Negro schools and white schools, and of
course, you have these exceptions, but basically—
Q. You say that was the decision of the schools? A.
Yes.
Q. And with the reduction of the allotment—the reduc
tion of the allotment of teachers at West Badin and Lake-
view meant a reduction in the allotment of the teaching
positions in the school system? A. No, Mr. Chambers,
because positions are not allotted on the basis of race.
Q. Although you did have these Negro teachers in the
schools we referred to? A. Yes.
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Q. And only in these schools—
Mr. Williams: I believe he’s been over that about
twice, and I object to any further examination.
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The Court: Yes. All right. Let’s move on to
another point.
Mr. Chambers: I have no further questions, Your
Honor.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Doby: We have no questions.
The Court: No questions?
Examination by the Court:
Q. Were you, Mr. Adams—you mentioned the Oakboro
School? A. South Oakboro.
Q. South Oakboro? A. Yes, sir.
Q. Were you in the system at the time she was teaching
then? A. No, sir.
Q. Do you know where she went to from the South Oak
boro School? To what school? A. I believe she went to
West Badin. I think Mr. Chambers has a whole list of
these, too.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, this is covered in the
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depositions.
The Court: That’s in there?
Mr. Chambers: Yes.
The Court: You may come down.
Mr. Chambers: May I ask one other question?
The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: Mr. Adams, is it true that one
teacher that was teaching in the Lakeview School
was employed in the South Oakboro School for the
1965-66 school year?
The Witness: Yes.
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Mr. Chambers: Following the reduction in the
allotment of teachers at Lakeview?
The Witness: Yes.
The Court: All right. Anything further?
Mr. Chambers: No, sir.
Mr. Doby: That’s all.
The Court: You may come down.
(Witness excused.)
Mr. Chambers: I’d like to call Mrs. Wall.
Audrey Gillis Wall—for Plaintiffs—Direct
Whereupon, A udrey Gillis W all was duly sworn and
testified as follows:
Direct Examination:
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, before I begin with
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the examination of Mrs. Wall, I would like to tender
in evidence Plaintiff’s Exhibits No. 1, 3, 4 and 5.
The Court: Any objection by counsel for the de
fendant?
Mr. Chambers: #1, 3 and 4. I’m sorry.
The Court: #1 is answer to interrogatories, as is
4, and to the teacher allotments. Any objections?
Mr. Doby: We have no objection.
The Court: Let the record show that Plaintiff’s
Exhibits 1, 3 and 4 were received into the evidence.
(The documents above referred to, heretofore
marked Plaintiff’s Exhibits Nos. 1, 3 and 4
for identification, were received in evidence.)
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Audrey Gillis Wall—for Plaintiffs—Direct
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Would you state your name, please? A. Audrey
Gillis Wall.
Q. Mrs. Wall, you are the plaintiff in this action? A.
Yes, I am.
Q. And you were employed during the 1964-65 school
year in the Lakeview Elementary School? A. Yes, I was.
Q. Would you speak a little louder so that we can hear
you? A. Yes, I was.
Q. What grade did you teach in the Lakeview School?
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A. My first year there, I taught—my first two years there
I taught first grade. The third year, I taught third, and
my last year there, I taught fourth.
Q. Now, how long have you been in the Stanly County
School System, or were you in the Stanly County School
System? A. I think I completed fourteen years there.
All my teaching experience, in fact, except this year.
Q. Where did you begin teaching the Stanly County
School System? A. At a small school in New London. It
was in New London Elementary School, just a two-teacher
school.
Q. How long did you teach there? A. I think three
years.
Q. Where did you go from the New London School? A.
The New London School was consolidated with the Kings
ville City School there in Albemarle, and we went with the
school.
Q. The teachers moved over to the Kingsville School?
A. Yes.
Q. All of the teachers in the New London School? A.
Yes.
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Q. How long were yon in the Kingsville School? A. Two
years.
Q. Where did you go from there? A. I went from there
to South Oakboro Elementary School.
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Q. Why did you go from Kingsville to South Oakboro?
A. Well, mutual agreement between myself and another
teacher there, personal reasons.
Q. Did you exchange positions? A. Yes.
Q. Mrs. Wall, in fact, has there been a rather loose ar
rangement or loose procedure between the Stanly County
School Board and the Albemarle School Board which has
jurisdiction over the Kingsville with respect to the Negro
students ?
Mr. Doby: Objection.
The Court: Sustained: That’s a conclusion. She
might tell what she knows about it, but, Mr. Cham
bers, I think the question whether there was a loose
agreement or not would not be competent.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mrs. Wall, is it true that Negro students in the county
were assigned to the Kingsville School? A. Yes. All of
New London high school and elementary children were
assigned to Kingsville School, and the high school student ̂
from Norwood and Oakboro were also assigned to Kings
ville School.
Q. And this Kingsville School is in the Albemarle School
District? A. Yes. A city administrative unit.
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Q. A separate school district from the Stanly County
School District? A. Yes.
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Q. And yon stated at the closing of the New London
School that Negro teachers at New London moved over to
the Kingsville School? A. That’s correct.
Mr. Williams: Your Honor, I wish Mr. Chambers,
who is a good lawyer, would not repeat what he
wants the witness to say in his question. What he
does, he goes in and he rephrases exactly what has
been previously said. He states a set of facts in his
question rather than to ask her what was or was
not done.
The Court: All right. Mr. Chambers, let the wit
ness tell the story, of course, without any prompting.
Of course, sometimes it makes to expedite matters
to handle it in that way rather than to let the wit
ness tell a story, but counsel is proper in objecting
to it. All right. Proceed.
By Mr. Chambers'.
Q. Mrs. Wall, would you state where you went after you
left the South Oakboro School? A. Yes. I went to West
Badin School. One of the teachers there died during that
summer, and Mr. Hines asked me to work there.
Q. Who is Mr. Hines? A. Mr. Hines in the principal
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at West Badin School.
Q. How long were you at South Oakboro? A. I was at
South Oakboro two years.
Q. How long were you at West Badin? A. Two years.
Q. Why did you leave West Badin? A. Well, Mr. Hines
told me that he was having a decrease in enrollment.
Mr. Doby: Objection, Your Honor.
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The Court : Sustained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Do you know why you left West Badin of your own
knowledge? Not referring to what someone told you? A.
Well, the principal told me. That’s all I know.
Q. All right. And where did you go after you left West
Badin? A. Lakeview Elementary School.
Q. How long were you at Lakeview? A. Four years.
Q. Mrs. Wall, it has been stated in some of the deposi
tions that have been introduced and the testimony of Mr.
Adams—
Mr. 'Williams: Your Honor, I just object again
to counsel beginning to say what has been stated
in anything. Now, he can ask her a question. That
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doesn’t give him the right to state what has been
said before in something and then ask her something
about it.
The Court: Mr. Chambers, what happens with
that, that often the witness is prompted to an answer.
I realize the deposition of a witness can be used to
impeach his or her testimony, but I rather think
the use of it by reading someone else’s deposition
and then going from there with a given witness is
not proper. I sustain the objection.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mrs. Wall, while you were at West Badin and at
Lakeview, were you frequently absent from school? A.
No, I wasn’t.
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Q. Did you frequently ask to be absent from school in
the afternoon? A. Well, not at West Badin ever.
Q. What about at Lakeview? A. Well, at Lakeview,
once a month I had to attend a doctor who lived in another
city, and his last appointment was at four o’clock, and it
was absolutely necessary that I go, and I asked for per
mission from my principal there at Lakeview to leave at
two-thirty or quarter of three, and he granted the per
mission.
Q. Who was the doctor? A. Dr. Youngblood Tomlin
Clinic there.
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Q. Where does he reside or practice? A. Concord.
Q. What time in the afternoon would you leave Lake-
view to go to your appointment? A. Two-thirty or quarter
of three.
Q. Did you have occasion to leave earlier than that?
A. Well, yes. I had a substitute for a half day. Mr. Mc
Lendon, the principal there, engaged a substitute, and I
gave Mr. McLendon the five dollars from my pocket to
pay the substitute. It was not taken from my check.
Q. How frequently did this occur, Mrs. Wall? A. Oh,
I don’t know, several times. I used two different substitutes.
Q. How frequently did you leave school in the after
noon to go to see your doctor ? A. Only once a month, and
sometimes every three weeks, but it usually would be within
that one month.
Q. Mrs. Wall, while you were at Lakeview, did you at
tend P.T.A. meetings? A. Yes, I did.
Q. Were you absent at any time from P.T.A. meeting?
A. I was absent once during this past year. I was ill that
day and had had a substitute.
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Q. Did yon participate in the P.T.A. meeting? A. I was
very active in P.T.A. In fact, I was chairman of the
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program committee one year, and I made all of the signs,
and what not, for various committees in the P.T.A., and I
always functioned at the annual P.T.A. banquet, appear
ing on programs, introducing various people, and helping
to plan for it—well, generally run errands to help purchase
the things for the banquet.
Q. Did you hold any position in the P.T.A. at Lakeview?
A. Just program dirctor and I served on another commit
tee. I don’t remember which one it was. I worked with
as many as I could, those who asked me. I never said no.
Q. Did you go with your students to the cafeteria for
meals? A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you have occasion to be absent? A. Well, only
when I was on an errand for the principal, and at other
times when I asked the principal, since I had more stu
dents who did not eat in the cafeterial, who either brought
their lunches or did not have lunches, if I could keep them
in the room, and the few who did eat go, and he granted
that permission, and of course, I stayed in the classroom
with those.
Q. What principal was that? A. Mr. McLendon.
Q. Mrs. Wall, did you have difficulty in getting along
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with your fellow teachers at Lakeview or any other school
in the school system? A. No, I did not.
Q. Were you able to get along professionally and socially
with the teachers? A. Professionally, yes. Socially, I
didn’t see many of them afterwards, because many of
them commuted.
Q. Did you criticize Mr. McLendon or any of your prin
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cipals because of the way they were operating the school?
A. No, I did not make any derogatory statements about
Mr. McLendon other than when he asked an opinion at
faculty meetings and what not, and the statements what
I made then were certainly not of a derogatory nature.
They were statements that he asked for improvement of
our school.
Q. Mrs. Wall, did you sell candy at the school! A. Yes,
all of us did at two occasions a year, money-raising
projects.
Q. When did you sell candy? A. Well, the first project
was a Christmas parade. We had a Miss Merry Christmas
contest, and the other was for May Day, for the May Day
drive. All of us engaged in that.
Q. When was the May Day drive? A. Approximately
two months, maybe a little longer, but approximately March
and April.
Q. When was the Christmas parade drive? A. Approxi-
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mately a month, because it was climaxed always before we
dismissed for the Thanksgiving holidays.
Q. Mrs. Wall, did you sell candy at any time other than
during the periods of these drives? A. No, I did not.
Q. Did you participate in extracurricular activities there
at the school? A. Yes, I did.
Q. What activities did you participate in? A. I was
chairman of many committees. I was chairman of May
Day for three years, and I was co-chairman the other year.
I had had back surgery and I wasn’t able to do this par
ticular thing, but the other members of the faculty were
asked to coach basketball, and when they refused, I coached
the eighth grade girls’ basketball team, because the princi
pal asked me, and I didn’t ever say no at any time.
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Q. Now, was Mr. McLendon at this school when yon were
participating in these activities? A. Oh, yes. He asked
me to.
Q. Mrs. Wall, did yon consider yonrself a troublemaker?
Mr. Doby: Object.
The Court: Sustained.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, may I he heard on
that?
The Court: Yes. I ’ll he glad to hear you. It’s
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a little bit conclusary, isn’t it?
Mr. Chambers: I think that charge of being a
trouble-maker is conclusive. We have testimony, we
have depositions that have been introduced in evi
dence, and we have the testimony of Mr. Adams a
moment ago and some statement that was made to
him by Mr. McLendon about the general reputation
of the plaintiff. Now, my question was to focus on
these specific charges that were made against the
plaintiff, and I think the only way that we can get
this in to focus on this is to refer to these specific
charges that were made by the defendant, and these
are the things that I was referring to in my question.
The Court: I thought what you were doing here
was putting in factual evidence to refute that that
charge was true. In other words, that you were put
ting in facts so that the fact finder might use those
facts to arrive at a conclusion as to whether that
situation existed or not. I don’t believe she can
answer just the ulitmate issue. She can tell what
she did, which you have been doing through the
examination of your other, which are the probative
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facts, but the ultimate facts, I believe that the fact
finder would have to answer.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mrs. Wall, what school did you finish, or schools! A.
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I did my undergraduate work at Barbara-Scotia College
at Concord. My graduate work at A & T College at Greens
boro. And I have had other courses. I had one through
Appalachain State Teachers College.
Q. What certificate do you now hold? A. Graduate Ele
mentary.
Q. How long have you held that certificate? A. Since
1958.
Q. Do you belong to any professional organizations? A.
I am a life member of the National Education Association.
I’m a member of N.C.T.A. I ’m a member of A.C.E., that
is the Association for Childhood Education, and I’m a mem
ber of I. R. A., and I am a member of an honorary educa
tion sorority, of Delta Kappa Phi. Is that enough? Pm
trying to remember them.
Q. Have you attended any professional institutes fol
lowing the receipt of your graduation— A. Yes.
Q. Would you name some of those institutes that you
have attended? A. I was awarded a scholarship last sum
mer through the recommendation of Mr. Adams, I think,
and Mr. McLendon to A & T College, but I wasn’t able
to attend that. I have done further work at A & T, and
as I said, Appalachain. Is that what you meant?
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Q. Yes.
The Court: Do you have a degree, a graduate
degree?
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The Witness: In elementary education.
The Court: What is that known as? For instance,
in law, it’s an LL.B. M.A.?
The Witness: M.A., yes.
The Court: Now, that means to me a Master.
The Witness: An M. S., Master of Science.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mrs. Wall, you stated that Mr. McLendon had recom
mended you for the—recommended you for one of the pro
fessional institutes? A. Yes.
Q. When was that, Mrs. Wall? A. During this past
school year, 1964-65.
Q. What month did he do it? A. In the spring, the
same time that Mr. Adams sent his. I had to have two.
I had to have one from Mr. Adams as my superintendent
and one from Mr. McLendon.
Q. What institute was that? A. That was the Institute
for Under-achievers at A & T. It was one from N.T.E.A.
Q. Did Mr. Adams have occasion to recommend you for
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another institute? A. Yes, he did. He told me that he
knew—I don’t remember the doctor’s name at the Univer
sity of North Carolina, when he came to our school, I first
met him there at the P.T.A. there, I had occasion to talk
with him, and he told me that he would like to see me
pursuing special education, and he knew of a man there
who was a personal friend of his, and that he would send
him a letter and when I went to his office for a conference
some time later, he read the letter to me that he wrote to
this individual listing my qualifications and what not.
Q. Did you cooperate with your principal at Lakeview
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in the activities and functions that were sponsored by the
school?
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Mr. Doby: Objection, Your Honor.
The Witness: Couldn’t I tell what I did?
Mr. Williams: The word “cooperate” . That’s a
conclusion; it’s a self-serving declaration.
Mr. Chambers: I ’ll change it to “work with” .
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Did you work with the principal in the social func
tions at the Lakeview School? A. Yes, I did, Mr. Cham
bers, and I brought our school handbook with me with all
the school policies and what not in it, which state the
different committees that I was chairman of and the things
that I did, the things that he appointed me and other
things that I did, I have that with me if you would like
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me to read from it, or introduce it, or whatever you would
like.
Q. Are you referring to the “Teachers’ Handbook” ? A.
Yes. Mr. McLendon passed it out to all of us.
Mr. Chambers: We’d like to have this marked as
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 6.
(The document above referred to was marked
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 6 for identification.)
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mrs. Wall, is this the “Teachers’ Handbook” that
you were referring to? A. Yes, it is.
Mr. Doby: We object.
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The Court: It looks like we will have to find out
what it is first. You say it’s a teachers’ handbook?
Overruled at this point. All right. What’s your
next question?
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Is that the “Teachers’ Handbook” ? A. Yes, it is.
Q. By whom is that handbook prepared? A. Well, the
foreword in it—
The Court: Now, if you know, you may answer
that.
A. The principal, R. B. McLendon, principal.
Mr. Chambers: That’s all, Mrs. Wall.
The Court: We can’t identify it by its own con
tents, I’m afraid. This hasn’t been offered?
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Mr. Chambers: No, sir. I was just identifying it.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mrs. Wall, did you receive a letter from Mr. McLendon
at the close of the 1964-65 school year advising you that he
was not recommending you for employment for the ’65-66
school year? A. I think the letter came I believe in July.
I’m not sure what month.
Q. Mrs. Wall, following the receipt of the letter you
referred to, what did you do? A. Well, I called Mr. Adams
immediately, and he said he didn’t know anything about it,
and I talked with him, I guess about fifteen minutes on
the phone. I was on my way to Durham and I stopped
at a pay phone as I picked my mail up from the post office,
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and as he said, he didn’t know anything abont it. He didn’t
know that I was the one chosen, and he suggested that I
write letters of application to other schools, and he named
one school in particular, at Misenheimer, I believe, and I
called him, and he was very, very favorable.
The Court: Yon called him? The Misenheimer
School.
The Witness: I think his name was Mr. Turner.
I’m not sure. I don’t know whether it was a Turner
School or a Mr. Misenheimer, but it was one of them.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Did you make application for employment at Misen
heimer? A. Yes, I did.
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Q. Were you employed at Misenheimer? A. No, I
wasn’t.
Q. Do you know of your own knowledge why you were
not employed? A. No, I don’t.
Q. Is Misenheimer a school attended by Negro or white
students? A. White students.
Mr. Chambers: No further questions.
The Court: All right. What says the defendant?
Mr. Doby: Your Honor, it’s five after five, and
our cross examination might run some time.
The Court: Your cross examination will likely be
lengthy?
Mr. Doby: We feel at this time that it would, and
frankly, we would like some time to mull this over
a little bit.
The Court: All right. Sometimes we use late
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hours to shorten trials, hut I won’t do that to you.
About how many more witnesses do you have, Mr.
Chambers I You may come down if you like.
(Witness excused.)
Mr. Chambers: At the present time, we anticipate
one more.
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The Court: One more?
Mr. Chambers: Yes.
The Court: And any subsequent witnesses we call
would be rebuttal testimony. The defendant had no
commitment as to number. About how many—
Mr. Doby: We have two to call.
The Court: Is there any reason that you gentle
men know that barring some eventuality that we
don’t now perceive that we couldn’t conclude this
case tomorrow?
Mr. Doby: I know of no reason.
Mr. Williams: I think, Your Honor, we can.
The Court: I have court in Durham involving pre
trials that involves a number of lawyers, as you
people know, and it would be right inconvenient for
me to change that around by reason of the great
number of lawyers, so I am not trying to hurry you
with your case, but just wanted to make that in
quiry. So with that, it looks like we might conclude
it tomorrow. In fact, we will go at it with the idea
that we will conclude regardless of the time. All
right. Well, let’s take a recess until the morning at
9:30.
(Whereupon, at 5 :10 o’clock p.m., the hearing was ad
journed until 9:30 o’clock a.m., Thursday, April 28, 1966.)
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Transcript of Proceedings, April 27, 1966
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PROCEEDINGS
The Court: Good morning, gentlemen. I believe Mrs.
Wall was on the stand at the conclusion of court yesterday.
Will you come hack to the stand, please?
Whereupon, A udrey Gillis Wtall resumed the stand and
testified further as follows:
Mr. Doby: Your Honor, the defendant chooses not to
cross examine Mrs. Wall.
The Court: I didn’t understand you.
Mr. Doby: The defendant chooses not to cross examine
Mrs. Wall.
The Court: All right. Mrs. Wall, you may come down.
Counsel for the plaintiff has another question. Was that
of Mrs. Wall?
Mr. Chambers: Yes, sir. Just for the purpose of identify
ing an exhibit we would like to introduce.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: We would like to have this marked as
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 7 for purposes of identification.
(The document above referred to was marked
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 7 for identification.)
The Court: Does counsel for the defendant—have they
seen that exhibit, Mr. Chambers?
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Mr. Chambers: Yes, Your Honor.
Mr. Williams: We have, Your Honor, and we have no
objections.
The Court: All right. Are you offering that?
Mr. Chambers: Yes, sir. I just wanted her to identify it.
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Further Direct Examination (By Mr. Chambers):
Q. Mrs. Wall, is this a copy of the letter that you re
ceived in July of 1965? A. Yes, it is.
Q. Would you state whether that is a letter from Mr.
McLendon, your former principal? A. Yes, it is.
Mr. Chambers: Yes, sir. We’d like to offer this
in evidence, Plaintiff’s Exhibit 7.
The Court: Let the record show that Plaintiff’s
Exhibit No. 7, being a letter from Mr. McLendon,
is received in evidence.
(The document above referred to, heretofore
marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 7 for identi
fication, was received in evidence.)
Mr. Chambers: Thank you, Mrs. Wall.
(Witness excused.)
Mr. Chambers: I would like to call Professor
Reutter.
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E. Edmund Reutter, Jr.—for Plaintiffs—Direct
Whereupon, E. E dmund Reutter7 Jr. having been duly
sworn, testified as follows:
Direct Examination (By Mr. Chambers):
Q. State your name, please. A. E. Edmund Reutter, Jr.
Q. Mr. Reutter, what is your occupation? A. Professor
of Education at Columbia University Teachers’ College.
Q. Would you state your educational background? A.
I received a Bachelor’s Degree from Johns Hopkins Uni
versity, a Masters Degree from Columbia University, and
a Ph.D. from Columbia University.
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Q. Are you a member of any professional organization?
A. Yes, sir, quite a number.
Q. Would you state some of the organizations of which
you are a member? A. Well, Phi Beta Kappa, Kappa
Delta Ti, Phi Delta Kappa, American Association of School
Administrators, National Education Association, American
Association of University Professors, National Conference
of Professors of Educational Administration, National Or
ganization on Legal Problems of Education, American As
sociation of School Personnel Administrators, Public Per
sonnel Association. I think that includes most of them.
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The Court: Where did you say you got your
Bachelor’s Degree from?
The Witness: At Johns Hopkins, Your Honor.
The Court: All right.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, are you an officer in any of these organi
zations? A. I ’m president elect of the National Organi
zation on Legal Problems of Education.
Q. How long have you been teaching at Columbia Uni
versity? A. I ’ve been on the professorial staff since 1950,
and in the various ranks, and have been full professor
since 1957.
Q. Do you have any publications? A. There are four
or five of a book nature and a large number of periodical
magazine articles. The books would include—I am co
author of a textbook on staff personnel administration
entitled “Staff Personnel in the Public Schools,” published
by Prentice-Hall. I am co-author of a book called, “Legal
Aspects of School Board Operation,” published by the
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Teachers College Bureau of Publications, author of a book
called, “Schools and the Law,” two editions published by-
Oceana Publications, a publication, “The School Adminis
trator in Subversive Activities,” pubished by Teachers
College Bureau of Publications, and the joint author of a
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research monograph entitled, “Principles of Staff Person
nel Administration,” which monograph reports on an ex
tensive study of what authorities in the field of personnel
administration and particularly public school administra
tion, public school personnel administration, agree upon.
In other words, this rsearch was designed to elicit from
the literature principles of public school administration,
public school personnel administration, on which there was
almost unanimity of the authorities in the area, and then
among the very numerous—since I’ve been engaged in this
for seventeen years—numberous periodical articles would
include articles in such items as “Law and Contemporary
Problems,” the Duke University Law School Publication,
the “School Board Journal,” Nations School Teacher Col
lege Record,” “Better School Executive,” and really quite
a large number of others I have here, and many, many
proceedings and what speeches I made up and recorded,
and chapters in several books that have been written by
joint authors.
Q. Have you attended other schools other than Columbia1?
A. Well, I of course made speeches and participated in
work shops at other institutions, including four or five ad
dresses at the Duke University Annual Law Conference
through the years. I held the title of Visiting Professor
at the University of Alaska, the University of Puerto Rico,
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and the University of Southern California. Those were
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extended sessions, and title, Visiting Professor was the
title.
Q. Have yon served as a consultant with any local hoards
of education or state hoards of education? A. Through
the years a substantial number of hoards of education in
connection with, primarily with the personnel policies, but
also in connection with problems of racial balances. In
the north it’s called desegregation or racial balance.
Q. Have you had occasion to examine the documents
that have been introduced in evidence here relating to the
Stanly County Board of Education? A. Well,—
Q. The several exhibits? A. Yes. I think I have studied
all of the exhibits as you introduced them yesterday. I
have read and studied all of the interrogatories that were
filed in the case, the answers to the interrogatories, the
depositions of Mr. Adams, Mr. McLendon, Mr. Hines, Mr.
McSwain, and Mrs. Wall.
Q. Did you have the opportunity of hearing the testi
mony that has been introduced here in evidence during this
trial? A. Yes, sir. I was here yesterday and tried to
listen attentively.
Q. At whose request did you examine these documents?
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A. At your request.
Q. And how did you come about my requesting of you
to examine these documents? A. Since my teaching field
at Columbia, as well as my personal interest, lie in the
areas of personnel administration, school law and educa
tional policy, the question of desegregation is one in which
all three of these areas impinge, so I have given a great
deal of time and study to it. The NAACP Legal Defense
and Educational Fund, Incorporated, engaged me as a
consultant to them in connection with cases dealing with
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educational matters, and through this consultantship, I have
been advising and trying to help the organization in its
activities, in its legal activities dealing with educational
aspects. This particular spring session, I am on sabbatical
leave from my teaching responsibilities, therefore I have
more control over my time than normal, and so I have
elected to, in addition to working from New York, visited
the scene of some of the cases I am participating in. I am
participating in a selective number of cases where selective
issues were coming to trial, and on that basis, since I was
free at this time and since you requesting my coming, I
came.
Q. Mr. Reutter, from your examination of the matters
that have been introduced in evidence and the testimony, do
you feel that you are able to form some opinion about the
practices and procedures that are followed by the Stanly
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County Board of Education! A. I do.
Q. Bo you have some opinion about the practices and
procedures followed by the Stanly County Board of Edu
cation employing teachers, or teachers and school person
nel! A. Well, that is sort of a general question. I will
make a few comments, and then you can follow up.
Q. First do you have an opinion! A. I do very definitely
have an opinion with several sub-opinions.
Q. Would you state your opinion!
Mr. Williams: That’s where we object, Your
Honor.
The Court: Let’s hear what his question is. Do
not answer this question, Mr. Reutter, until I have
considered the objection of counsel. Go ahead and
pose your question, Mr. Chambers.
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Q. Upon your examination of these records and docu
ments, what is your opinion about the practice and pro
cedure followed by the Stanly County Board of Education
in employing teachers and school personnel?
The Court: And you are objecting to that?
Mr. Williams: Yes, sir.
The Court: Let me hear what you have to say,
Mr. Williams.
Mr. Williams: Well, Your Honor, I don’t think
his opinion about the policies or plans of the Stanly
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County Board of Education, in the first place, from
what he has familiarized himself from, I don’t believe
he could qualify himself in the field of an expert in
that respect. Now, furthermore, our objection is as
to what his opinion may be about, what has been said
here or what he has read about what has been intro
duced as exhibits here. We do not think it is compe
tent because we don’t think it’s relevant about it. I
think the question of whether or not the procedures
and things that have been followed by the Board of
Education is within the preference of the Court, and
what his opinion might be about it, I can’t see where
it would throw any light on it. The question would be
as to whether or not what has been done by the Board
is something that comes within the prohibition of the
law, statutory, constitutional, and otherwise. And I
don’t believe—as well schooled and as well educated
as the professor is—that this is an area in which his
opinion ought to be allowed.
E. Edmund Reutter, Jr.—for Plaintiffs—Direct
By Mr. Chambers:
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The Court: All right. Mr. Chambers, I have seri
ous doubts about this. Actually, you might be fixing
to give opinions on the law, which certainly, on a
legal conclusion of which undoubtedly would be for
the Court to determine. I’ll be glad to hear from you
on this. I have no reservation about the fact that
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Mr. Reutter is well versed in the field of education,
but the competency of his opinion on the various
facets of this is questionable. I’ll be glad to hear
from you.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, first of all, I would
say that we have no desire here, or we do not pro
pose to use this witness to express an opinion about
the law. We think, and we have referred here to
Stansbury on North Carolina Elements, Section 132
and following, and to Wakemore’s Evidence, Volume
Two, Section 556, on who is an expert and when do
we use, or when is it proper to use an expert. We
have here questions involving due process and equal
protection under the law, due process as it relates
to the practice of the School Board in considering
teachers for employment, and retention of employ
ment in the school system; equal protection as it re
lates to the matter of assigning Negro teachers to
Negro schools and white teachers to white schools
and refusing to consider Negroes for employment in
white schools. Now, practices and procedures that
are followed by the School Board are of course sub
ject to procedures or should be comparatively stand
ard, that have been accepted by educational experts,
and have been compared with practices throughout
the country. In order for the Court to determine
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whether the practice followed by the School Board
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here accords due process to the parties or teachers
in the school system, I don’t think that I am an ex
pert in the area of education, and I think that it
would be of help to the Court in getting some idea of
the practices that are followed or that might be fol
lowed by some school boards, or standards that have
been accepted by educational experts as the stand
ards that school boards should follow in the employ
ment and personnel procedures. Now, we are not say
ing here that the Court must adopt or accept what
the witness, that we are posing that the witness would
testify to. All we are saying is that the Court might
be benefited in its decision if it has some comparison
between what we have shown this School Board has
done and what this witness will be able to say that
the standards have been found to be, or what other
school board have followed. I don’t think the Court
would have this benefit if we had only the practice
that has been followed by the Stanly County Board
and no other comparison. We propose to use this
witness here only to testify about the accepted stand
ards and practices that are followed and found to be
proper standards to accord the due process to the
teachers in the school system.
The Court: Let me ask you—now, let’s say that
you show standards, Mr. Chambers, in other areas.
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Now, you say upon showing those that the Court
would be better able to decide the question of whether
due process has been complied with. Is that the way
you reason this, that upon showing what they were
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doing in other localities would be pertinent and rele
vant on the decision by the Court of whether the
Stanly County Board had given due process in this
case?
Mr. Chambers: That is one prong. The other
would be that this witness has studied the practices
of the Stanly County Board and would be able to
express an opinion about that, the practices of the
Stanly County Board, and certainly that would be
relevant to the issue in this case. Also, and again,
we would only refer to the statute and section we
cited as to the basis to what we propose to proffer.
The Court: Well, of course, the texts say where
the witness is so situated and so trained, that he or
she is in a better position to draw inferences from
the facts than the jury in an ordinary case, then he
might give an opinion, but I don’t believe that that
means that his opinion or inference can come in the
realm of going to the issue that we have here, whether
due process has been afforded the plaintiff or not.
Now, I think that there are possibly certain infer
ences from these facts that he might draw and that
would be proper, but your question before him now
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is—I have forgotten the exact wording of it—I do not
recall. Do you have it written there ?
Mr. Chambers: Generally I asked his opinion
about the employment practices followed by the
Stanly County Board, the practices employing teach
ers and school personnel.
The Court: That is a rather broadside sort—
Mr. Chambers: That is true. I could limit that.
The Court: —question. And if you limit it some,
I think possibly it might be competent in certain re-
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spects, but I do not believe to allow him to take from
that question and go into the various areas that pos
sibly he might would be competent. I am going to
sustain the objection to that question. Now, it could
be, but in order to protect you, that the answers that
you might want to put into the record on anything I
might sustain—I would want you protected on the
record in case I commit any error, but you use your
own judgment about that. But I will sustain the ob
jection to that question.
Mr. Chambers: That’s what I—I was going to try
to rephrase it, Your Honor.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: And if we were unable to get it
properly, then we’d like to proffer it under Buie 46.
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The Court: It could be that the answers that you
might want to dictate into the record after, or pos
sibly better now, you know, as we go along. All right.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Beutter, again referring to your opportunity to
examine the record of the, or the practices of the Stanly
County Board of Education in the employing teachers and
school personnel, you stated that you do have—or from your
examination you feel that you are able to express an opinion
about these practices and procedures. My question is what
is your opinion in reference to the practices and policies of
the Stanly County Board of Education as related by the
depositions of Mr. Adams and the testimony of Mr. Adams,
and the interrogatories that you state you have had an
opportunity to examine? A. I can only answer from the
point of view of personnel administration.
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The Court: Just a minute. He hasn’t finished his
question.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. What is your opinion of these practices as they com
pare with the standard procedures that are followed by the
administrative personnel in other school systems?
Mr. Williams: I object, Your Honor.
The Court: Sustained.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, may I proffer that?
May I get his answer into the record?
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The Court: All right. You may. Gentlemen, I
think that is entirely proper, that the answer go in
the record. The question is not the thing that’s ob
jectionable; it’s the answer. You may at this junc
ture, then—I am sustaining the objection to that, but
you may give your answer, Professor Reutter, to that
question for the record.
A. Well, I would answer at this point, because I am very
conscious of that which I believe I do have a competence
to evaluate and that which I don’t. Compared to other
school districts throughout the country, based upon my ex
perience, and compared to theory of personnel administra
tion as it is taught and accepted, there are certain points
within the procedure as described by Mr. Adams in his
deposition and in testimony yesterday, that are in marked
difference with general accepted practice as personnel ad
ministrators in public education see it.
Q. What would be those marked variations or points of
departure ?
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Mr. Williams: I understand that that objection
takes care of all of this ?
The Court: I would prefer, in order that there be
no question when you object, if you would object and
let me make a ruling.
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Mr. Williams: All right, sir. I object to the answer
to that.
The Court: You need not feel that you are irritat
ing the Court. I want all parties protected on the
record. Let the record show that the defendant—it is
the defendant, it’s just one defendant?
Mr. Williams: That’s correct.
The Court: That the defendant objects and the
Court sustains the objection. You may go ahead and
answer the question.
A. The fact that almost complete authority is given the
principal to select the teachers, particularly for retention,
without any written records, without any stated criteria,
without any personal check by the superintendent, this is a
marked variation with the generally accepted principles
which appear on the basis of the research study that I re
ferred to earlier. The fact that only one person makes the
evaluation that has the effect of whether the plaintiff or
whether a teacher is retained or not is in variance, I think
I could say, with any reputable personnel administration
practice. It has no imputation about the fact that the
principals may not be good, but that no one man is in a
position to evaluate alone and have his evaluation accepted
on a matter as subjective and as professional as teaching.
So that is the crux where I do feel competent to comment.
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, it is standard practice and procedure for
several persons to evaluate or appraise a teacher’s per
formance in the school system?
Mr. Williams: Object, Your Honor.
The Court; All right. Sustained. Now you may
go ahead and answer,
A. May I read from the basic research study that I referred
to earlier the principles that were derived from the litera
ture which would be a better consensus ? Reading from this
document, Your Honor, would put into the record something
that is not my opinion, but is the result of a substantial
research study. I happen to agree with it. But this would
have more validity, perhaps, than my opinion, and I agree
with what’s in there and I can state it more succinctly by
reading what’s in there.
Mr. Chambers: Let me try—
The Court: You are objecting to that?
Mr. Williams: I’m objecting to that, Your Honor,
because I understood the record—now what’s going
in the record is his opinion, and I don’t want him to
put it in.
The Court: I sustain the objection.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, did you participate in the study? Is this
pamphlet here entitled, “Principles of Staff Personnel Ad
ministration in Public Schools,” the pamphlet that you are
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ref erring to? A. It is.
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Q. Did you participate in the preparation of that pam
phlet? A. I was one of the two key directors of the study.
Willard Elsbree was the other.
Q. Did you participate in the research for the prepara
tion of the study? A. Well, actually, I was listed as co
director, and behaviorally, was the key director of the re
search which was carried out by some twenty people.
Q. What was the purpose of that study?
The Court: Let the record show that the defendant
objects and that it is sustained. Go ahead.
A. The purpose of the study was to try to determine from
the vast body of accumulated literature, experience, re
search, and so forth, those points on which those who had
had tested experience, those who had done research studies,
were in agreement. The principles enunciated in this vol
ume, and now I quote, ^constitute a common core of gen
erally accepted concepts as found through a thorough ex
amination of recorded research and experience. The princi
ples selected are those on which there is substantial agree
ment among authorities.” And then I would add that there
are many points which you won’t find in here simply because
the literature is not in agrement on the points or it does not
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deal with the points. Now, getting back to the question that
Mr. Chambers asked. One of these principles that we found
had been agreed upon by the authorities which we drew to
gether—
Mr. Williams: I want to object, Your Honor.
The Court: Sustained.
A. Was No. 31 on page 43, personnel should be evaluated
by more than one supervisor. I won’t read the paragraph
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that describes this; however, I would add personally or
even from this that a single rater—or I won’t read from this,
I will just state it—this can be read from later, if you want.
Mr. Williams: I’m objecting.
The Court: Sustained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, let me state it this way. Again going
back to the question I posed, what is the general accepted
practice in evaluating teachers and school personnel?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained. You may put his answer
in the record as heretofore if you desire.
A. This is a very complex area, but among the specifics,
and in the interest of time, that are possibly pertinent to
this case are, reading from here, “Principle 31. Personnel
should be evaluated by more than one supervisor. No. 32.
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The evaluation process should include conferences between
the evaluator and the person being evaluated. No. 29.
Every staff member should be evaluated periodically.”
And to some extent, No. 30. “The evaluation should involve
a variety of approaches and be flexible enough to allow for
differences in teachers and in teaching situations.” The
psychological and point of view valuation, the two points
that are bing made are validity and reliability.
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Let the record show that the defendant
objects, and that is sustained, and the answer is
allowed to be put in the record.
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter— A. Could I just add to what I meant
by reliability and validity? It might not be completely
clear.
Mr. Williams: We object.
The Court: Sustained. Unless there is a question,
Professor Reutter, why, wait until one is posed.
The Witness: Very well, Your Honor.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, have you had occasion to work with
school boards in the desegregation of teachers and school
personnel? A. I have.
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Objection overruled. The question is
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has he had occasion to work with them. I think that
would be competent.
By the Witness:
A. I have.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. You have? A. Yes.
Q. Have you had occasion to work with school boards
recently in the desegregation of schools? A. I have.
Mr. Williams: Object to that, too, Your Honor.
The Court: Overruled.
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. What was the most recent occasion? A. Richmond,
Virginia.
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Overruled.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, was there in your consultations with
the school boards and desegregation of these schools con
cerned with the desegregation of teachers and school per
sonnel already in the school system, or only with the teach
ers and school personnel that could be hired by the school
hoard?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Overruled. He is finding out where,
Mr. Williams, where he worked. I don’t think that’s
gotten around to any opinion yet, and that’s the
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reason I am overruling.
Mr. Williams: I am just unable to see the rele
vancy of it.
The Court: All right. Well, I’ll overrule your
objection at this juncture.
By the Witness:
A. I’ve lost the question now.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. The question was whether your consultation dealt
with the desegregation of teachers already in the school
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system, or only with teachers to he hired by the school
board? A. The entire process of desegregation—
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Let the record show that the defendant
objects and that is overruled.
A. It involved the whole plans for desegregation, including
faculty, students, facilities, and so on, the whole gamut.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Now, in your opinion, is it an educationally sound
practice for the school board to desegregate faculties?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: The defendant objects and the objec
tion is sustained. You may put the answer in the
record, if you wish.
By the witness:
A. Would you mind repeating that again?
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. In your opinion, is it an educationally sound practice
or principle, sound practice for school boards to desegre
gate faculties?
The Court: Let the record show that the defen
dant objects, and that objection is sustained.
A. Education is exceedingly desirable that there not be
segregated staffs.
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Q. Why is that, Mr. Beutter?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Go ahead. A. He sustained it.
Q. But you can answer for the record.
The Court: You can put it in the record.
A. Excuse me. I misunderstood.
The Court: All right.
A. Essentially the reason, educationally, involves the fact
that the purpose of the public schools historically, and this
has found its way into judicial opinions as well as the
history of education hooks, is to create an enlightened
citizenry capable of working together to continuously im
prove the country, and also in connection with the process,
to allow each individual to fullfill to the maximum his own
potential. Where students are assigned to schools where
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the staffs are all of one race, the children are very likely,
in my opinion, to run into the same kinds of psychological
disadvantages and therefore educational disadvantages
that were found to prevail in the Supreme Court decisions
regarding desegregation of pupils. The reason for the
psychological consideration, in my opinion, is that where
white children can be taught only by white teachers and
Negro children see the leaders of their race only able to
teach Negroes, this gives to them a feeling of inferiority
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in that the leaders of their race are not considered good
enough to teach white children. There also are some other
factors, I think, along this line.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, you had occasion to examine the pro
posed plan of the Stanly County Board of Education for the
next school year for the assignment of teachers and school
personnel? A. Yes, I read that carefully.
Q. Do you have an opinion as to the feasibility of this
plan to effectuate the desegregation in the school system?
Mr. Williams: Objection, Your Honor.
The Court: Sustained. You may put his answer
in the record.
A. Based on the fact that I can find no substantial differ
ence other than that certain things are put in writing be-
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tween the testimony I read in depositions and the testimony
I heard yesterday, in the plan for next year, since the
plan did not work this year to effect any desegregation of
staff, I see no reason to believe that it will next year if
it as I believe it to be essentially the same plan. I would
not have expected it to work anyway, based upon my ex
perience with this type of situation.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, you recall that in the plan which is
Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 5, the Board proposes to consider in
determining whether to employ teachers and school per
sonnel, whether the teacher desires to teach in an all-white,
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in an all-colored, or an integrated school. In your opinion,
is the consideration of those factors a proper consideration,
educationally, for a school board as to employ and assign
a teacher ?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained. You may put the answer
in the record, if you wish.
A. The question reads is applicant willing to teach. My
answer would be that if the school board exercises its
legal right, it would be up to the Court to determine its
legal responsibility, if the school board exercises its right
to assign teachers regardless of race, as has been indicated
constantly in the testimony, to ask the applicant if he is
willing to do it is irrelevant, and in a situation such as
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exists in North Caroilna which is very unusual, where
each teacher has to reapply each year, I think that this
would constitute a threat and would discourage presently
employed teachers of either race from seeking employment
in school with the opposite race.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. In your consultation with the school boards you
stated that you have worked with recently, did they develop
a plan for desegregation of the teachers? A. Yes. And
the Courts accepted the plans.
Q. Would you describe those plans?
Mr. Williams: I object, Your Honor.
The Court: All right. The objection to the last
question and answer is sustained.
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Would you describe again, for the purposes of the
record, the objection was sustained, for the record would
you describe the plan that was adopted by the Richmond
School Board for desegregating the teachers?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained.
A. I don’t have a copy of it with me. In effect, the School
Board indicated that it was going to take a number of
positive steps to bring about more effective desegregation
both in terms of reassignments of teachers already em
ployed and in terms of taking advantage of the turnover
situation, getting new employees into the system, I think.
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Without having the exact wording in front of me, I couldn’t
—I shouldn’t say anything more than the fact that the
School Board did have a plan, and they had certain state
ments of goals to be attained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Did you have occasion to work with another school
board in the preparation of a plan for desegregation? A.
Well, during this spring, yes, the Norfolk, Virginia—in
Norfolk, Virginia.
Q. Do you recall the provisions of that plan that was
finally adopted by the Norfolk School Board? A. Theirs
was—
Mr. Williams: Object to that, Your Honor.
The Court: Sustained.
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Mr. Williams: Not in response to his question.
He asked him if he recalled and then he proceeds
to go forth.
The Court: Sustained.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Just say whether yes or no, if you recall the pro
visions of the Norfolk plan? A. I recall them in a general
sense.
Q. Mr. Reutter, going to Mrs. Wall, the plaintiff in this
suit, did you have occasion to examine the practices fol
lowed by the School Board in refusing to reemploy her
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for the 1965-66 school year? A. As recorded in the depo
sitions and as stated yesterday.
Q. Now, did the practice in your opinion followed by the
Stanly County Board vary from the generally accepted
practice for considering persons for reemployment?
Mr. Williams: Objection, Your Honor.
The Court: Sustained. You may get his answer
in the record, if you wish.
A. Yes.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. How did they vary?
Mr. Williams: Objection, Your Honor.
The Court: Sustained.
A. Along the lines that I mentioned earlier, there appeared
not in the testimony yesterday nor in any deposition accu
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sations with specific enough specificity to in my opinion
enable one to reach a decision at to their interpretation.
They lack specificity; there was nothing in writing; no
criteria were given to the teacher as to what was expected
of her; no criteria were given to the principal as to what
to expect of teachers. Two principals in depositions dis
agreed markedly on certain specific facts. One principal,
in the deposition, expressly said that she always followed
instructions; another said she didn’t. Good personnel
administration would certainly dictate that where there
is a conflict, this should be investigated. So that I don’t
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know—well, let me put it this way—and that is without
criteria given to the teacher, without criteria given to the
principal, with only the word of the principal taken, cer
tainly the superintendent of the School Board did not
follow the general accepted practice of good personnel
administration.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Is it a general accepted practice for school boards
or school systems to weigh where there is a conflict or an
alleged conflict between the teacher and the principal to
investigate this further rather than to merely accept the
statement of the principal?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained.
A. Very definitely. Particularly when the charges are of
such a vague nature as trouble-maker, she didn’t get along
with other teachers. These are so general that without
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factual verification, I don’t see how either the superinten
dent or the Board could have made this decision, which
does not mean to say that they made the wrong decision,
hut they had no basis in my opinion for making any de
cision.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Is it a general practice in the school systems to main
tain written records of teacher performances?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
A. Absolutely
The Court: Just a minute. The objection is sus
tained. You may put the answer in the record, if
you wish.
A. Absolutely.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Would this written record reflect not only any possible
deficiency in the teacher but other problems like the alleged
trouble-maker or unable to get along with teachers?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained. You may put your answer
in the record, if you wish.
A. The absence of written records upon any matter of im
portance and certainly the retention of teachers is a mat
ter of critical importance, is a very rare and heartily dis
approved procedure.
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By Mr. Chambers:
Q. What practice is generally followed where there is a
reduction in the allotment of teachers and the necessity for
reducing the teachers in a system?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained. You may put the answer
in the record.
Mr. Williams: Your Honor, this is not for the
record, but I have a little trouble getting up and
down. May I stand while this examination is going
on?
The Court: You may sit down, if you wish. You
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may make your objections sitting since there are so
many of them, or you may stand, if you wish.
Mr. Williams: Thank you, sir.
The Court: All right. Go ahead.
By the Witness:
A. When reductions in force take place, I refer to govern
mental employment since collective bargaining agreements
usually take care of this or some other kind of arrange
ments, so reading the answer in public employment and
particularly in public school systems, when a reduction in
force takes place, the recognized procedure is to make a
very careful examination of all of the persons in the school
system, and then to remove from the school system that
person or persons least well qualified. In other words, to
remove the poorest teachers first. And the criteria of poor
ness would have to, some way or another, would have to
be made objective, but the teacher would have to be com
pared with other teachers in order to find out who was in
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deed the one to be let go. It could be such factors as senior
ity. It could be factors of personality. It could be all sorts
of things. There are chapters in my book on that and also
in the Statement of Principles there are sections on that.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Going again to the specific charges against the plain
tiff, do you have an opinion whether these charges are suf
ficient as to warrant the action of the dismissal of the plain
tiff?
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Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained. You may put the answer
in the record, if you wish.
A. Based strictly on what I have read in the depositions
and what I have heard in the Court till this moment, for a
teacher with fifteen years’ experience and a graduate level
certificate, I would think further investigation would have
to be made before a decision was reached. I would not
presume from the record to say whether the Board had
indeed errored except by failure to do these other things.
In having made the decision to dismiss her, I think they
did commit an injustice which good personnel administra
tion is designed to prevent.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Are you familiar with the Code of Ethics of the Na
tional Education Association? A. Yes.
Q. Do you recall the provisions of the Code in reference
to the matter of retention of teachers or considering teach
ers for reemployment in the school system? A. The Code
was recently revised—
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Mr. Williams: Objection.
A. I ’ll have to say no to that.
The Court: Overruled, on the objection.
A. I don’t.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. In reference to the plan that was recently adopted by
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the Stanly County School Board for assignment and em
ployment of teachers for the next school term, do you have
an opinion whether the proposal would satisfy the prac
tices you say deviate from the accepted standards or prac
tices ?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained. You may put the answer in
the record, if you wish.
A. Do you mean in terms of retaining teachers or—
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained.
A. In terms of retaining teachers, there seems to be no
change, period. In terms of desegregating the faculty of
the system, as I commented earlier, I doubt that it would
have any more effect next year than it had this year in
terms, because the only change that I see in it is that current
practices were put in writing. I compared it last night with
Mr. Adams’ deposition, and it sems to me that it is merely
putting it in writing and adding some forms, which is not
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to disparage it, but simply to say in my opinion that it is
not substantially different, and without anything in addi
tion to that, I don’t think it will lead to any difference. See,
one of the problems is there is no goal. No one has yet
said—
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained.
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A. My opinion is—
The Court: Just a minute now. Let’s have another
question.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, what is the generally accepted function
of a superintendent in this school system?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained. You may put your answer
in the record.
A. The general accepted function of the Superintendent of
Schools is to be the chief administrator, officer of the school
system, to carry out the policies of the Board, and to oper
ate, be responsible for the operation of the school system.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. What role generally does the superintendent play in
employment of personnel?
Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: Sustained.
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A. This would vary to an extent depending upon the size
of the system. I would say, based upon my experience, that
in a system the size of Stanly County, most superintendents
do and most superintendents should, in my opinion, exer
cise more of a role than Mr. Adams said that he did. In
taking the word of the principal alone, to me, he was abdi
cating some of his responsibility. It’s still part of the sen
tence ; I just took a breath.
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Mr. Williams: Objection.
The Court: This is an objection to the entire an
swer, and it’s sustained.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, I do not recall
whether I tendered this witness as an expert at the
beginning. With the Court’s permission, I would like
to for the record tender the plaintiff, or the witness
as an expert in the school of—in the field of school
administration and personnel.
The Court: What says the defendant about that
question?
Mr. Williams: We have yet—we object to that.
I don’t think that he has qualified him as an expert
in the field of inquiry before this tribunal, and there
fore I object. I object to him being tendered as an
expert. I object to him as being admitted.
The Court: Mr. Chambers, do you have much fur
ther examination of this witness?
Mr. Chambers: Not much further, Your Honor.
Your Honor, I would like to say in practically every
case of this nature, particularly in cases involving
teachers and school personnel, in the Middle District
Court with Judge Stanley, we have used expert wit
nesses for this problem. Even in the case with Judge
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Stanley, and this is Willard vs. the Durham Board of
Education, an expert witness was used, his expert
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testimony was permitted. I don’t think our procedure
here is varied from that. That’s why we continued
to proffer the evidence here, because I think it’s
proper procedure. This is an area that I am cer
tainly not familiar with, and I think that we could
use or utilize the expertise of a person who has de
voted his entire life to this area. And this is why we
have proffered him, and this is why we have con
tinued to proffer the evidence.
The Court: Yes, I think it is a field, Mr. Chambers,
that expert testimony could he competent in. The
questions which have been offered or have been asked,
and the answers that Professor Reutter has made,
in most instances, go to the very finding or conclu
sion of law that this Court has got to make, and
for that reason I have sustained the objection. Now,
I could be in error in that. I realize that in some
cases heretofore in this district that the matter of
expert testimony has been admitted, and I believe
that you were in a case in Durham where one of the
witnesses said he believed that some witness who
preceded him had spoken on that subject before.
I am going to find that Professor Reutter is an ex
pert in the field of education, and let the record ac
cordingly show. Has there been, Mr. Chambers, a
case up on this direct point that you could cite the
Court to in our circuit?
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Mr. Chambers: Not on these direct points of a per
son expressing an opinion, but in this type of case,
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your reference about the witness stating opinions
about matters that the Court would actually have
to decide, it is generally though the problem that
we have with most experts, when they really do
express an opinion involving matters that are at
issue before the Court and generally express an
opinion about what the Court would really be decid
ing, whereas in automobile cases we have a problem
of a medical expert delving into the area where the
jury will actually have to resolve, and here, too, we
have a problem of whether the practices here fol
lowed by the Stanly County Board of Education
would accord the fair treatment of the personnel in
the school system. We are contending that these
practices do not, and the way we are trying to show
this—we can’t make a comparison unless we have
something else other than just what the Stanly
County Board of Education does, and we are trying
to show some practices are generally accepted prin
ciples by educators on how you really consider per
sonnel or teachers in the school system. And this
is why we have proffered this evidence. Not to really
divest the Court of the question that is before the
Court, but rather to give the Court something to
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make some comparison to see what is done can be
done better or should be done better to properly
and fairly treat all the personnel in the school sys
tem. And here is where we think an expert can be
of some help, where he has made studies, as Mr.
Reutter has testified he’s made about these prac
tices, where he has studied not only the practices
of other school systems, but the practices right here
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in Stanly County, and can give the Court some aid
in reaching an opinion about the fair treatment of
the personnel here.
The Court: This is not just exactly an analogous
situation, but you refer to a personal injury action.
You have, Mr. Chambers, a case where a witness is
allowed to give an opinion on speed. Now, of course,
that we know is competent, but yet, he could not
answer the question of whether the defendant was
negligent or not. He can give an opinion on that fact.
Now, that’s the way I am bothered by the expert wit
ness, the testimony here. It kind of strikes me that
comparably this witness is reaching an opinion on
was he negligent or not in your personal injury
action. I say there’s no real comparison between
the negligence case and what we’re dealing with
here, but that is what it seems to me that this wit
ness—the questions that have been asked and the
answer go to this ultimate question that the Court is
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to decide. I do not know. In any event, you have
got it in the record, and if I should be wrong—I do
not know—at the conclusion here, it will probably
be a question that you’ll want oral argument later
or now, or I’ll give some time for oral argument.
I could kind of give you an opportunity to make any
research that you wish, and I’ll do so likewise as
the defendants, and maybe we might come to a more
exact resolution of this question. But as you say,
as far as this direct point is concerned about how
far an expert witness can go in these cases, you
know of no case that’s been decided directly on this
point, do you?
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Mr. Chambers: Directly on the point of the wit
ness here testifying about educational practices?
The Court: His opinion on whether the practices
of this Board are—you know—in compliance with
the usual and customary practices and other ques
tions that you have asked. You know of no decision?
Mr. Chambers: I have no decisions directly on
that point. I was just using the analogy, though, of
the doctor talking about whether a person who has
sustained a broken arm, or the extent of the injury,
or something that might be attributed to an act of
a party, the doctor here was delving into the provi
dence where the jury is going to be determining the
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question of probable cause. And again, I was really,
for the purpose of the Court having the benefit of
some practice, we have no other way of getting into
the record what generally accepted practices would
be unless we could call somebody who knew what
these practices were.
The Court: All right. Let’s go ahead. And I will
let you put into the record the answers, and let’s go
ahead and conclude this witness, then.
By Mr. Chambers:
Q. Mr. Reutter, I have just one or two other questions.
Mr. Doby: Just one minute, Your Honor.
Mr. Williams: I didn’t understand Your Honor to
make any ruling that reversed the ruling that you
sustained the objection that has been made along to
the question.
E. Edmund Reutter, Jr.—for Plaintiffs—Direct
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The Court: No, I haven’t changed that ruling.
All right.
Mr. Chambers: Your Honor, I have no further
questions.
The Court: All right.
Mr. Chambers: I would like the right, if the Court
permits, to recall Mr. Reutter in rebuttal if it be
comes necessary in the case.
The Court: All right. You may come down.
(Witness excused.)
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The Court: Let’s have an undeclared recess, and
let me talk to the attorneys for both sides.
(A brief recess was taken.)
The Court: Have you concluded your testimony?
Mr. Chambers: Yes, we have.
The Court: I see.
Mr. Chambers: Plaintiffs rest.
The Court: All right. Just a minute. Let the
record show that where there was an objection to
the witness Reutter’s testimony and the objection
was sustained and the answer then appears in the
record, that the answer was allowed placed in the
record for the purpose of preservation of any rights
of the plaintiff on appeal, if there should be an ap
peal. I think that will protect both sides in case
I have committed an error. All right. The case is
with the defendant.
The Clerk: Your Honor, might I inquire? Ac
cording to my records, Exhibits 5 and 6 were intro
duced, were identified but not introduced. Am I
correct in that?
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Mr. Chambers: That’s correct.
The Court: I will allow you to introduce them,
if you wish.
Mr. Chambers: We would like—the 5th Exhibit
was the plans of desegregation proposed by the de
fendant Board, and the 6th Exhibit was the hand
book. We don’t care to introduce the handbook, but
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we would like to introduce the plans for desegrega
tion. That’s Exhibit No. 5.
The Court: I think that he would be entitled to
that. Is there any objection by the defendant?
Mr. Williams: No objection, Your Honor.
The Court: Let the record show that Plaintiff’s
Exhibit No. 5 is received into the evidence.
(The document above referred to, heretofore
marked Plaintiff’s Exhibit No. 5 for identifi
cation, was received in evidence.)
The Court: All right. The case is with the de
fendant.
Mr. Doby: May it please the Court, the defendant
will offer no evidence, and at this time would like
to make a motion that the Court find the facts for
the defendant.
The Court: Gentlemen, what I am deliberating
about is what to put on the record with reference to
that. I want you to—both sides—to submit proposed
findings of facts and conclusions of law with a brief
supporting any conclusion that you say the Court
should find. Let me inquire. In view of this junc
ture, would you be inclined to put on anything fur-
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ther? I would presume not, Mr. Chambers. There
has been nothing to rebut.
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Mr. Chambers: That’s true, Your Honor. I was
just checking. We couldn’t care to put on anything
further.
The Court: I will reserve my decision on the mo
tion and enter a memorandum. Before we do that,
Mr. Chambers, how much time would you like to
have for your submitting your proposed findings of
fact and conclusions of law and such additional
brief you desire, and this being an adversary pro
ceeding, I would assume that the proper way to
handle it would be for you to present yours and
then to allow the defendant some time thereafter to
submit theirs. About how much time would you like ?
Mr. Chambers: I don’t want to prolong this deci
sion, but I think it would be about fifteen days before
I could do it.
The Court: I certainly expect to give you that
much.
Mr. Chambers: Could we have twenty days to
submit—
The Court: Yes. I’m going to be in Court, as
you know, next week, and then I have a two-week
term up in Wilkes County, so actually it is going to
be a few weeks before I can work on it, and the
twenty days certainly would not delay the case any.
Do you think that would be adequate time for you
to get yours in?
Mr. Chambers: I think so.
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The Court: All right. The defendant, of course,
need not wait until the plaintiff has filed theirs.
Following that by ten days, would that be sufficient
for the defendant?
Mr. Doby: That would be all right, Your Honor.
The Court: All right. Let’s adjourn.
(Whereupon, the hearing in the above entitled matter was
closed.)
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Notice of Appeal
I n' the
U nited S tates D istrict C ourt
for THE
M iddle D istrict of N orth C arolina
S alisbury D ivision
C ivil A ction N o. C-140-S-65
A udrey G illis W all and T h e N orth Carolina T eachers
A ssociation , a corp ora tion ,
Plaintiffs,
v.
T h e S ta n ly C oun ty B oard of E ducation ,
a public body corporate,
Defendant.
I.
N otice of A ppeal
Notice is hereby given that Audrey Gillis Wall and the
North Carolina Teachers Association, plaintiffs above
named on this 26th day of September, 1966, hereby appeal
to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit, from the Final Judgment entered in this action
by the United States District Court for the Middle District
of North Carolina on the 26th day of September, 1966.
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Notice of Appeal
II.
D esignation of R ecord on A ppeal
Plaintiffs, by their undersigned attorney, pursuant to
Rule 75(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, hereby
designate all the original files and the complete transcript
of the evidence in the subject case for inclusion in the
record on appeal, including all pleadings, exhibits, affi
davits, depositions, testimony, orders, notice of appeal and
this designation.
This 26th day of September, 1966.
C onrad 0 . P earson
203% East Chapel Hill Street
Durham, North Carolina
J . L evonne C ham bers
405% East Trade Street
Charlotte, North Carolina
J ack Greenberg
J ames M. N abrit , III
10 Columbus Circle
New York, New York
Attorneys for Plaintiffs
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Notice of Appeal
C ertificate of S ervice
This is to certify that the undersigned has this day
served copies of the foregoing Notice of Appeal and
Designation of Record on Appeal upon counsel for the
defendant by depositing copies of same in the United
States mail, postage prepaid, addressed to Stanton P.
Williams, Esq., 501-504 Hill Building, Albemarle, North
Carolina, and Henry C. Doby Esq., Post Office Box 806,
Albemarle, North Carolina.
This 26th day of September, 1966.
Attorney for Plaintiffs
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