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, ltaggle S. Bozemanr VS. Paroles Julia P. Wilder VElo IN THE UNITED STATES DISTBIET @URT rCIR TBE I4IDDLE DIS.TRI T OF ALABN'IA, NORT}IERN DIVISION a a ! CA t83-lt-57 9-N : (habeas corPus) Ealon M. tambert; Jack C. Lufkinl : John T. Forter, ln thelr offlcial 3 capacities as members of the ! Nibama Board of Pardons and 3 Parolesi Ted Butlerr a Probatlon t and Farole Officer eoployed by ther Alabama Board of Pardons and 3 cAl83-tI-580-N (habeas corpus) Ealon !I. Lambert, Jack C. f.ufklnl : John T. Porter, ln thetr official : capacities as nembere of the etiOama Board of Pardons and Parolesl Ted Butlerr a Probation 3 and Parole Officer emPloYed bY the: Alabaroa Board of Pardons and 3 Paroles 3 rararaaaaaaaaoaataaaaraaaa""orrr 3 Before Hon. fruman !1. Bobbsr Judger at Dtontgomeryr Alabamar l{arch 27 L984. A p p e a r a n c e s! For AIl Plalntiffs: vanzetta Penn Durant and c' tani Gulnier (I'IAACP Legal Def ense & Education Fundr Inc. r Neu Yorkr NY) For All Defendantsr Charles Graddick, Attorney General (Jean Williams Brown and Rivard !,telsonr Asst. Attorneys General) (The above cases coming on jolntly for hearing at Montgoneryl Alabamar March 2r 1984r.bef ore Eon. Trunan t'1. uoou6, Ju&ie, the tbltor,ring Proceedings were had:) a a a Oa t ir DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK * LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA ]6I04 I 2 3 8 9 r0 11 12 r3 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK a LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA ]6I04 THE @URT: The next matter is habeas petiEion of that of Ms. Bozeman and !1s. Wilder. We are here on the motlon of the defendants for suxomary judgnent, on a number of grounds. Ir 11 let you take them up ln any order that you want to take thesn uP, litS. DURN{T; Your Eonor I thls ls Lanl Gulnler of r the Legal Defense Fundr represent,lng the petitloners today. 1ts8 @URT: GIad to have your MS. GUINIERT Your Eonorr I would llke at this tine to introduce Ms. Bozeman; who ls present in court. Would you standr Ms. Bozeman? (Wonan stands up. ) ![S. GUINIER: Just to attempt to clarify the procedural posture of thls matterr w€ hare noved for sumtnary judgnnent on two lssuesr Erasically, ln !ls. Bozemanrs case; that is, that the e\,rldence on which the jury raa permltted to convict the defendant was ingufflcient and that a reasonable trler of fact could elmp1y not harre fourd the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of each and every eleoent of the offense charged, In addltlon, on behalf of Ms. BozemanT we are challenglng the constitutlonality of the notice that she was provided in the indlctnent whlch falled to give her gufficient notice of the nature of the charge whlc[ she was belng forced to t defend herself against. On behalf of petltioner Wilderr w€ have moved for summary judgment on the basis that the notice that she t----:--l L..r \j 6 7 8 I 10 l1 12 r3 14 r5 r6 17 18 t9 20 21 22 23 24 l--ri\, DUiT.-N, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPOR'I'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY. ALABAMA ]6104 received vras insufflclent as a matter of consitutlonal requireoents for due Proeess. I rouLd tlke to f lrst discuEs the issr:e of lnsufflclency of the evldence ln the Bozoan case. Your Eonorr the petltloner contends that a gross roiscarrlage of justice has occurE€d. She was trled ln Pickens Courtyr Nabamar for vlolating a Etatutet Nabama Statute 17-23-1r 6t the basls of a .thEetscount lndletnent. Each count of tlre indlctnent charged a violation of, the sane gtatut€. Count one charged that she deposlted tnore than one ballot as her voter ln vlolatton of 17-23-1, count two charged that ehe depoglted nore than one absentee ballot as her voter ln vlolatlon of 17-23-Ii and count ttrree charged that ehe did cast lllegal or fraudulent abeentee ballots wbich she lmew were fraudulent. Ncnr thie etatute whlch has baslcally been used as the basie for counts oD€7 two and threer ls an extraordinarlly vague statute. Prlor to the trial of the petttloners ln this ca6er it had not been construed authoritatively by the Nabana courts f or over one hnndred years. I{e have attemSted in our motlon for Eurrmary judgnent and in our brlef to eet outr to the best of our abilityr the eleonents of that statuteT given the eircunstancesr And it ls our lnterpretaElon -- and I donrt thlnk that the State has challenged thls lnterpretation -- that the statute basically had t,hree elements; that ie that the petttioner voted more than oncer that she voted more than once as her vote and that she 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 r0 11 12 r3 14 15 16 17 18 r9 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK A< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORI'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET IVIONTGOMERY. ALABAMA 36104 voted more than once with ttre lntent to defraud or with the intent to do smethlng illegal. I do not bellever although I would certainly invlte the Court to inqulre f,urth€rr that the State ls challenging that this is a slnciflc lntent crine and that proof of the intent of the petttloner ls neceEsary as part of proof of alt of the elements of the case. Noifr ue contend with regard to the flrst element -- that ls, that she voted nore than once -- there |s absolutely no evidence in the Record that she voted aB all, nuch less more than once. There ls no evidence ln the Record that !1s. Bozeroan at the September 28th t L97--- excuse me -- Septernber 26tht L978t primary runoff voted at all. The State has not responded to the speciftc contentiong that ue have made in their anEwer to our motlon for surnmary judgruent. They did respond to thls Courtts order of December 2ndt laying out what ttrey perceived to be the facts on which the jury convicted. And the State clains that there was evLdence that she cast ballots. I would challenge the State to point to any part of the Record which shors that she cast any ba1lots. The only evidence that even di.scussed t,he petltioner in the context of the clrcult clerk's officer where such ballots would be castf was Eestimony of Ehe clerk of the courtr who nerely said she saw the petltloner in a car outside the clrcuit clerkrs offlce the day before the Prlmary runoff. There was no testirnony that the petitloner or anyone known to the petitioner or anyone that the ptltloner should have knotrn brought any r-n L) 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 I ('J r0 11 12 13 14 't5 16 17 t8 19 20 2'.! 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK E< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORI'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET IVIONTGOMERY, ALABAMA ]6104 ballots into the clrcuit clerkts offLce for the purpose of depositing theln ln the septerabet 26tht 1978r Etlllof f . lUE @URT: Let me ask you this: Irm -- under that slatuter what ls your understandlng, if someone did not physically cast a ballot but went to -- butr letrs Sdyt forged it and I am not suggesting thie is the evidence -- but forged a ball.ot of someone and gave it to smebody e18e to caat? Is lt your contention that -- that a defendant would have to physlcally cast the ballot to be guilLy of that statute? llts. GUINIER: Nor we are not contendlng that the defendant would physicalty have to caet the ba}Iot. But there would have to be some evldence that she knew someone elee was going to cast that ballot. lEE @URT: That she brought it bY? !(S. GUINIER: Rightr gt that she was part of an effort to cast that particular ballot. There ls no evldence that anyone she knew or ehould have kncrrn or caused -- the castlng of that ballot. The second element of ttre offenee is that Ehe voted more than one ballot as her vote. There is no evldence that the ballots that were introduced lnto evldence ln the trlal were voted the way she wanted lhenr to be voted. Ihere is no evldence as to how she wanted that particular prinary runoff to turn outi andT furtbermorer there ls no evidence Ehat she had any role in filllng out the absentee ballots that were being introduced as 4 5 1 2 3 6 7 8 9 10 l1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 evidence. Notrr the prosecutlon had lntroduced thirty-nlne absentee ballots. fhey called only nlne of the thirty-nine voters to testify. Each of the nlne voterg was elder[Y, illiterate or senl-Ilterate and very confused about voting procedures in general, about the Primary runoff ln partlcular andr nost iurlnrtantr had very llntted abtLlty to recall event8 that took place over a year ear}ler. One wltness, in factr Mf. Nat Dancyl when guestloned about the prlrnary runoff r thought that they were talklng about world war II. Be lndicated that he was gcared throughout the proceedings. Ee thought that he was sonehor being put on trlal. He eaid he was hard of hearing. The prosecutor kept showing him dtfferent prlnted forms and asking him coul'd he recognize theurr and he kept saylng: 'I cantt recognize anything becauge I canrt read. You are just ehorlng me a printed form. I dontt knotl what it sB|s.' Notcr ttre prosecution conceeds that of the nine witnesses that they calledr only two of those voters had anything at all to say about tlaggie Bozesan. tgE @URT: That was !1s. Sgnnn, and I have forgotten the other on€o !lS. GUINIER: That was Lou Sonnerville was the second person. Noer at the trialr !18. ScmmervlLler who was ninety-three years old at the tlmer said nottring about !{aggie Bozeman or about any ballots being cast in tbe prlmary runoff, DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON RECISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPOR'I'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTCOMERY, ALABAMA 36I04 l;d 1. .) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 II 12 t3 14 15 16 17 18 r9 20 21 22 23 24 rr tL-r DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 36I04 She did talk about vottng in a veL/dry election and about vottng for Sherlff Louie ColemanT but neither of those issues or Persons rrere on the ballot for ttre Septeraber 26tb, 1978r Prlnary runoff' She adauantly denled throughout her trtal. testinony that she had had any help ln casting any ballots frql liaggie Bozeman. Durlng the coutrEe of her teetlmonyl the State asked the judge to declare her a hostlle wltness because the State contended thats it was surprised by her testlnonyl and the State contended lt was eurprlsed because a year carlierr the proeecutor had allegedly lntervlered Hg. Somervllle rlthout any attorney preeent for MB. Smmervlller without any attorney Present for F18. Bozeman andr. as far ag Dls. Scrnrnervllle recalledr wlthout a court reporter present. We have no evldence that t*rts lntervieH took placer Your Eonorr trecause se have neger geen the so-called deposition that tbe Prosecutor clains he took. tse took it absolutely out of line wlth all of the Procedures ln Alabama for taking pretrial deposltlons. And the Court allored hin to use thls pretrlal statement that re have never seen to atteoPt tor not, only impeach his wltnegsr but then to use iE as subetantive evldence. TgE @tRT: We117 I doubt tf the State would argue that he could do Ehat. Wer 11 8€€o !lS. GUINIERI Wellr thatrs -- thatre true, Your Eonor. The State has certalnly argued ln the Past that the evidence produced from ttrat prlor etataoent -- that lsr that tils. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I I 10 tl 12 13 14 r5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINCSTON RECISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPOR'I'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 35I04 Bqzesoan heltrnd Ms. Sonerville wlth t-he fllling out of her abgentee ballot -- is evldence agalnst Ms. Bozesran. That's the only place uhere that evldence is presented ln her prlor stateloent whlch the has rejected ln court. lEE @URTr She -- ehe never afflrned it ln court? US. GUINIER: Nor she did notl Your Eonor. She never said. 'That ls vhat I said.' In factr 3h€ did just the opposite. She 6aid, 'I never told you that.' But even if for the purpoEe of thls notion you allon that st,atement to be used as substanElve evldencer all lt says is that ME. Bozaan hel5nd Ms' Sqomerville t,o f 111 out a ballot rlth !ts. Smurervillets consent. Agalnl tlroughl the ballot that she alleged1y refers to in that statement ls a ballot that lnvolves votlng for Sherlff Coleooanr who ras not on the batlot ln Septenber -- ln the September 26th runof f . NGfr the second witness rho sald anyttting about !tS. Boz€man was Sophie Spann. And her testlnony lras that lLaggie Bozeman talked to her when it rasnrt votlng tineT and she also testlfied that !{aggle Boz€$an walted on a porch whlle she went down to vote at so6e Point in the past -- in the Prevlous two or three years. In fact, when she was slecifically questloned about the Democratlc prirnary runoff for 1978, the sald she didlrt knq^r about any runoff !n 1978. fhatre at the transcrlpt at one eighty-three of !Is. Bozernanrs trial. The only connectlon that the State rraE able to provide between !1s. Bozeman and any voEing 7'.il l-) I 2 3 i--t \____, 4 5 6 7 I I 10 1l 12 13 14 15 16 17 r8 r9 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK E< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORI'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTCOtvIERY, ALABAMA 36104 activity ln tbe 1978 prinary runoff was evldence that she had plcked up so6re blank appllcatlon forns for absentee ballots. The State does not contend there is anythlng illegal rith picking up these blank aPplicatlon fora6, and He contend that, given the fact that !18, Bozenan is a schoolteacherr that plcklng up those forus i,s as conslgtent with lnnocence as anythlng, |n thaE she was using those forms to conduct voter educatlon and partlclpatlon workshops to Ebc,r, lnople what ttrose forns neant and hou they were uged. IBE @URT: Wellr ev€D lf ittd have been for assisting aonebody voting ln that electlonr ttrere wouldnrt have been anything lllegal about tbat, would there? lls. GITINIER: Nor it wOuld notr Your llonor. And ln fact, the state has provlded to t}1e court an oplnlon of the Attorney General that Eays assistance to voters is permitted and aBsistance to more than one voter ls pernltted. So the State is lefEr thereforer with ttre testimony of the notary that lile. Boaeman waa phyatcally present when the ballots in question were notarlzed and that the voters were not present. There ie no testimonyr howeverr Your Bonor, that Fls. Bozeman had arranged the conference specifically so that the voters uould not be present. There le no testimony that l{s' Bozersan imgnrtuned or |n any way caused the notary to notarize those ballots involuntarlly. There is no evidence that l'ls. Bozernan was anything more than physically Present in the notaryrsr 1 2 3 4 5 D 7 I I r0 11 12 13 14 t5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 i DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK E< LIVINGSTON RECISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPOR1'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY. ALABAMA ]5I04 office when he notarized some ballots. There rrere four other people also in hls offlce at tlre time. The notary does not ldentify !ls. Bozenan ae laklng any actlve role in the notarization. There le no evldence that she mlsrePresented to the notary thaE, these were the slgnatures of voters or that she said she knew theee particrrlar voters. There i6 absolutely no evldence that she was anything ercept in hls office. Ncffr thig ls the key, then, to the StaEer e case against Ms. Bozemanr and in fact it is the Statet s contentlon that the fact that those ballots were notarized outglde of the presence of the voterr !n and of itselfr transforned those ballots into fraudulent ballots andr ln and of ltselfr makes !{s. Bozenan gullty of the crlne that the statute prohlblts in Sectlon 17-23-1. And I would ]lke to read to the Court a brief Pagsage f,rm the argrument that the prosecutor made at trlal. This is at page one nlnety-six of the transcript. The Prosecutor said -- and thls was in resPonse to the defense notion to exclude the evidence at the cloee of the Stater s case because lt was ineufflcient and because it did not establish the elesaents of the offense. And the prosecutor said: 'Theyr lncluding the defendantr brought tlose ballots there. Theyr lncludlng the defendant, partlcipated in the act that, resulted in these ballots being notarized fraudulently. t Those same ballots vrere cast in that election. '&ll of them were not properLy notarlzedr and in that sense they lrere fraudulent. llhether or not the intent of -) ,I 1l I 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 r0 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 r9 20 21 22 23 ?4 e DUirr-N, KING, KILPATRICK a< LIVINGSTON RECISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 36I04 the voter to vote for anyone; in ny judgment, is beside the point. I do not see it nakes any difference uho the voter intended to vote for. The questlon ls rrhether ttrat ballot that was cast in thls electlon was fraudulent.' And then the prosecutor goes on: 'And the act of the defendant ln particiPatlng in the presentatlon of theee ballots to hin to be notarized was fraud.' As farr theref ore, as Our notlon for Eumlnary judgiment on the basls of insufflclency of the evidence, Your Eonorr u€ belleve that there are no naterlal lseues of fact and that there are -- there was no evldence of all of the eg8entlal el@ents of the crire. And, indeedr !!re Stater in lEs response to our moElon for surnnary Judgmentr has not contestd in any way our presentation of the evldence as belng ln the light noet favorable to the prosecutLon. In fact, they donrt contest our presentatlon of the evldence. They donr t contest our clalm. Even in the pleadlng that they subnltEed ln response to this Courtrs order of December 2ndr they argue that there rae sufflcient evidence to convict on count two. Tlrey dontt argue that there was sufflcient evidence to convlct on countg one and three. And we contend that they are virtually conceeding that we should prevall on thls notion slnce the petitloner was convicted guilty as charged in an extra general verdlctr where there was no indlcatlon on the basis of whlch count the jurY convicted. In addition to the insufficiency of ttre Erridence claim t 2 3 I 9 4 5 6 7 r0 11 12 13 14 15 t6 17 r8 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK & LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPOR'I'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTCOMERY, ALABAMA ]6I01 that we have argued on behalf of petitloner Bozemanl we have also argued on behalf of petltloners Bqzeoan and Wllder that the notice that they were provlded wa8 inadequate and unconstitutlonal. The rlght to notlcer Your Bonorr ls an essential element -- aB I an sure the Court is altare -- of due process. And the notlce conponent of due Process referB to the charger erDd lt requires that the charge set forth the allegatlons wlth eufflclent partlcularlty so ttrat the defendant nay be pregnred to defend hereelfl lt requireE that the charge come prlor to ttre trlal Eo that the defendant can be pre;nred to defend herselfi and lt requlres that the notlce be reflected by the Record. And thls Bean8 that lt uuet be lncortrnrated ln sme vray in the Record. And |n this caBe, t}e only fornal notice tbat the defendant recelved was Ln the lndlctnent. And this is lnportantr Dot only eo that the dcfendant ls able to defend herself for ttris Particular charge, but to protect her frqn double jeopardy ln the event the State nould decide to retry her on Eorne other ballots and especially since thte particular tndicturent failed to identify Etre number of ballots she suplrcsedly cast, the names of the voters ln -- oR -- the names of the voters whoae ballots were auptrnsedly cast. w€ contend that there yras absolutely no uay she would be Protected ln the event that the State rould atternpt to try her again' Ncnr the indictment in this caser 4S construed by the Nabana courL of crimlnal Appealsl EayB that count one made the FI1i) .;- (.i I 2 3 4 5 6 7 I I 10 11 12 13 14 '15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY. ALABAMA ]6I04 appellant aware that Ehe did l}legally or fraudulently vote by voting nore than once, by depoetttng ruore than one ballot aE her vote in the Denocratlc prlmary runoff. W€ contend that notice conglstent rith due Process was not glven in count one because there ls no allegatlon that she had the slnciflc intent neceesary to qonmlt thls crLme. In addltlonl re contend that notlce consistent nlth due procegs was not given ln count one because there was not sufflcient fastual elaboratlon to enable the defendant to defend herself. there raa no state$ent as to what she dld that nade thoee ballote -- that nade her vote ilIegal or fraudulent excegt that she voted aore than once. But, againr lt doesntt say hotr nany tlneg ehe voted or in whose DAut€I In count twor the A.Iabama Court of Crinlnal Appeals says that tlre appellant was lnforued that ehe did cast lllega} or fraudulent abeentee ballota by votlng nore than one absentee ballot or by depostting Bore than onc absentee ballot as her vote. Again we contend that there waa no notice consristent wiEh due processr parttcularly ln vter of, ttre Staters theory of the case; that it uas the notarlzation of thoee ballots tbat nade the ballots fraudulent absentee ballots' fhere lras no notice ln court two of the acta that ttre defendant allegedly -- aLlegedly cornroitted that transformed those abaentee ballots from normal and legal ballots to illegal and fraudulent ballots. And ln count threer tjre Nabama Court of criminal Appeals sald that the appellant was notified that she did cast I 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 1't 12 13 14 15 16 't7 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK C< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 35I04 tllegal or fraudulent absentee ballots by depoeiting with the Plckens County clrcuit clerk absentee ballots whlch lrere fraudulent and that she knew to be fraudulent. Count three is the only count in that three-count indictrnent that allegee t'he necessary eleoent of tlre offenge of apecific intentr of the fraudulent intent to vote more than once or to vote more than one ba110t -- excuse me -- to vote more than one ballot ag her vote or to vote illegaIly ln sme other way. Not r Ehere were several gronnds under wbich the petlttoner could have been convlctedr for whlch tltis lndlctment provided no notice. In tbe Judgers charge to the jury, one of the grounds on which the jury could have convlcted ts tf the jury found that any one of ttrose abgent,ee voters not been physically prevented frm going to the ;nL1s. There is no notlce of that partieular ground in the indictnen!. fhere was algo a charge to the jury that the ballots in question nust be notarl'zed. There is no notlce of that ground ln this particular lndictment. lhe jury was charged that ttre notary nuet strear that the voters personally appeared before hin. There ls no notice of that ground in this indlctment. Andr finallyr there rras a charge of, perjorYr for whlch there is absolutely no notice in this indlcturent. InfactrYourHonorlgiventheStatelstheoryofthe case -- that isr that the improPriety in havlng the ballols notarlzed outside of ttre presence of ttre voter was Prirna facle 7?t l-: J I 2 3 8 I 4 5 6 7 r0 1l 12 13 14 15 16 17 r8 19 20 21 22 23 24 -1 i e DUr.r-N, KING, KILPATRICK e< LIVINCSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPOR'I'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY. ALABAMA 35104 proof of the offense and transformed thoge ballots into frauduLent ball.ots ls underscored by the trial judgets stateoent ln the wilder caser drd I quote -- thls !s f,rm the t,ranscript at three thirteen - iThe State chargea that, the defendant witneesed or had knowledge that, a notary public falsely notarlzed or attested to the authentlcity of the ballots by attestlng the persons were bef,ore hln and Eo forth ae provlded ln the affidavit. It tlle ballot was falsely attested to' ttren such a ballot would be lllegall and any Pereon rho prttclpated ln a scheure to east that ballot rlth knorledge of that fact would cornmlt the acts prohiblted by Section 17-3-1t - it ehould be L7-23-l. 'of the Alabaua Code of 1975.' we contendr Your Hqror, ln addltlon, ttrat glven the fact that tbie case involved fraudl it uas even Eore critical that the indlctnent glve the sgnclflc factual allegatlons that the State was contending vrere the -- that -- the specific factual allegatlons that describe the acts that the State uas contending vrere fraudulent or descrlbe the facte the State was cont,ending made those ballots fraudulent. And we are contendtng t,hat this requlrement |e not only a requirauent of Pederal coneitutional lawr but 1t is conslstent wlth ttre requlreuoents of Alabarna law. And I would refer ttre Court to a caae that iE cited ln Ehe Alabama Court of Crlmlnal Appeals declsloD -- that lsr Gayden v. State -- ln which there was a multl-count indlctnent, a general ver--- general verdict I and becauee two of the counts failed to 4 5 6 7 8 I 'l 2 3 10 tl 12 13 14 '15 16 17 18 l9 20 21 22 23 24 give notlcer the entire convictlon fell. In that case, the Court ruled on the factuaL sufficiency of an indlctnent whlch Eracked the language of the statuta but failedr ln the Courtrs vlewt to glve enough factual elaboration of the acts which constltuted the crlne charged. The Court found that, the lndictnent had, in factr charged a crine but lt had not gl,ven enough notlce of the acts which constituted that crtne, And even nore iutrnrtant about thls case ls that the Nabana Courts lndlcated that tf there sere a queetlon of forgeryl ttren it nould be even nore lnlrcrtant to have detalledr factual allegations neceseary. That was a caae -- Gayden v. State was a case involving narcotics. lEE @URT: I remember tlrat case. That was here ln MontgomerY, ItlS. GUINIERT the Gayden Court, Your Honorr enphaslzes the imtrrcrtance of the due process guaranties and guotes extenslvely froro Federal consltutlonal las On the requiraaent of notice. And the Court states that the ruanifest purpose of the due Procees Provielons ol€7 quotey rto secure the citlzen agalnst the arbitrary action of those ln authority.' we think it ls especlalJ.y lmportant for thls court to consider those guarantles when reviewing the clains of these petltionere becauge both of these petitioners believe that they were prosecuted arbitrarily for thelr lnJ.ltical activity that involved exerclsing the right of citizens to votee ererclslng the rlght to assoclate wtth others for ttre advancement of shared DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON RECISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 36104 l:t -',". r I 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 I r0 l1 12 l3 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 r---]t, DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPOR'I'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 36I04 bellefsr exercising the right to assist other voters ln particiPatlng ln the political process. And because this particular statute and lndictment and convlctlon reached uhat nay be perfectly innocent constltutlonally-Protected activlty, we thlnk that the Court should even more carefully scrutinr.ze the clains tbat the petltionera are maklng. We thlnk tbat ttrtE scrutlny lg nccesEary conslderlng the origln of ttrts partlcular slatulc whlch the State used to lndlct the two petltiotl€Ego Tlrls partlcular statut6r as I have nentioned beforer trad not been construed ln o/er a hundred years prior to t5elr convr.ction. Ttrls lnrticular statute was passed ln 1875 by the Redeerner Leglslatuf,€. Andr qr January 9thr 1875r the I,tobile Reglster reported, ln descrlbing thls statut€r quoter ilt ls undoubtedly the purpoee of, the Nabama teglslature to enact an election law which w111 prevcnt hereafter ttre great frauds uhlch have been colnnltted uith the negro vote. And on ltarch 3rdr 1875t shortly after ttre Bill ras Pa68ed, a Democratlc Leglslature defended it in the l{ontgoaery Mvertiser ln the following terms; quote: .It is an egtabllshed f,act that a white Ean cannot easlly vote more than once at one electlon. They do not all look alike andr in nany cases for t|e lnst ten yearsT courts not of their osn selectlon were only too glad tO trunP up such charges.' ltro days later, the Dal}y Advertlser reported, and I quote: 'Governor Eouston has approved tbe new electlon law for the State. Goodbye to negro repeaEing and packing of negroes, around 10 11 12 13 t4 15 't6 17 t8 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK 6( LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY. ALABAMA ]6104 the courthouse on election daY. t Glven the factl Your Eonorr that that statute wae passed under the nost susplcioue of circunstancea and had not been construed |n a hundred yearsr crd glven the fact that when lt was construedr ttre Alabana Court,s have ruled that the statute prohibited voting more than one vote as the defendantrs voteT with the intent to defraud. We contend that Eere1y tracking the language of the statute ls especially Prejudiclal becauee of the unexpected constructlon of tbe statute whlch the prosecutor and the Judge gave to the statute and gave to the charges in the lndlctnent. Because the statut,e is vaguer because it hadntt been construed in so long7 the jury was pernltted to lncorPorate vlolatlons of four other statutee that had not been charged in the indictment, in violationr Your Eonor t of ttre due process rights of the Petitioner. THE @URT ; Thank You r loa t m. ![R. MELSON s ![ay lt please the Courtr my nane is Rivard Melson, appearlng on behalf of the respondents' I think I would like to respond to petitionersr argunents in reverse orderr the first being the sufflciency of the lndictnent, It appears that the petltlonerg vlew Pederal habeas corpus as some sort of trnral.le1 appellate route rather than the extraordinary wrlt that it i6. By thaty I mean it appears t,hat at the trial of these cases, they had availabl.e to them various objections under Alabarna procedural lawe vhlch ttrey failed to 7-r l_J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 l4 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 |-r i'-.-r DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK E< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPOR]'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 35104 ut,ilize or decided not to utillzer under which they could have ralsed various errors that theyrre notl asg€ltingr roainly the arguments about erroneous jury lnstructlona. sit baclc at trialr nade no mentisr of theor aDd then they come to Federal court under habeae corpua and they seetB to harre the view that there ls Eome sort of plain error rule they can uae !n Federal habeasr which they can bytrnss the stat,e procedural lal{ and assert grounds that ttrey could harre raised in State Courtl and if they could have denonstrated they had nerltorious clalns that these jury instructlons or ttre indictment or whatever vlolated Federal consitutional lawl the Alabama Courte would have enforced those consitutional rlghts. Nevertheless, they Just harre bylnssed the State courts on these lsgues. And we think that any argrument they make about instructing the jury as belng erroneou rHE @UREI Wellr you mean Ehey by5nssed the state courts in that they didnrt ralse lt at the trial? !1R. !,IELSOBI: Rlght. L thlnk under l{ainurlght v' SykesT thetr fallure to conply with ttre Nabama THE @URT: I just want to be sure I r:nderstand the apPellate --what, you mean. they have ralsed these polnts in Alabasra apSnllate courtr have they not? !lR. MELSONT Nor sir. They couldntt ralse thera in the Alabama aPPellate court because they didntt raLse them at tr iaI . 1 2 3 4 5 D 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 r5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK S{ LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA ]6104 THE COURT! All right. t'!R. MELSONs Under Nabama procedural 1aw7 they had on anytlting that they say waE wrong with the jury chargel they had to objectr assign speclflc grounds -- IEE @URT8 What I mean le rre donrt have a fall,ure to exhaust reroediee question? You are not saying that. !{R. MELSON: We have a walnwright v. sykea prob}em. TgE @URTr Al'L rlgbt. !{R. MELSON: Pailure tO reserve in a state trlal court Ehe contenporaneoua objectlon rule' lItE @URTt I understand. I r:nderetand. t{R. MELSoN: They cannot ralse lt in Federal habeas corpus. ADd ltr s clear -- t[e Alabana procedural lau ls clear hor these issues can be ralsedr and they di&lrt do |t. So I thlnk so far as sufflciency of the lndlctnent, Ehey are left wlth ttre factal sufficiency of ttre indlctuentr not anything that they are saying thatr glven this indlctnent, it was error to lnstruct a jury as to certain thlngs; thereforer since the indlctment wouldntt suplnrt the jury instructionsr theae lrere erroneous in the jury lnstructlons. But they didnrt obJect at trlal. They just let it go. so I donr t ttrlnk they are entitled to raise it ln a Federal habeas corPus, under tlainwright v' sykea. Ihen lf -- theyr re left ntth just the eufflclency of Ehe lndlcturent as lt reads under ttre case of -- U.S. Suprane Court case of Knewel v' Egan; which we cite; and under ttre case of t--l l: .t I 2 3 4 5 6 7 I I 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 r8 19 20 21 22 23 24 il DUn.N, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 36I04 Branch v. Esteller which ls a fif$t Circult caEe ln 1980 I or Johnson v. Esteller a Fifttr Clrcuit case in 1983 r which says that under Federal habeae corpuar relief ls not due to be granted unless the indlctment le so lneff,ectlve the convicting Court had no iurisdl.ction. And ttrg clear ttrat ttre Circutt Court ln Alabama had jurisdictlon under these lndictrnents to try these pople on what they sere charged wlth dolng. So I think that under thoge cases and glven the fact they dldntt object to whaE the jury wa8 inEtructed at trlalr that they cannot prevall on a clain tiat thls indictrnent ls -- that they cant t prevail on a claln ttrese indlctnents sere not' sufflclent in a Federal habeae corPus Proceeding. Then I rOuld lilre to proceed to the argunents made about the lnsufflclency of the evldence as to Mg. Bozeoran. At first, lt oughts to be noted that the trlal court lnstructed the jury on a conepiracy theory ln thls case. Thatre rrhaE, lt was submitted to the jury ofir I thlnk that ttre erridence !s clear that in this case the prosecution proved Chat .Iulia Wilder dld tn fact cast fraudulent ballotsr motre Ehan one bal.lotr ae her vote in this electlon and that tlE. Bqzeaan uds, in factT 6l coo8ptrator ln that, Reading the evldence as a whole and vlewing tt -- the testinony the Bost -- viering the testimony in the light nost favorable to the Stater I thlnk itt s unquestioned that this defendant Snrticipated in a scbeme to cast fraudulent votes or more than one vote ln this particular election charged ln thls 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 r0 l1 12 r3 14 15 16 17 18 r9 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA ]6104 indlctnent. And under Alabama statutory lau and case law at the tiner defendanta rrho are conspiratcs or acconplices or alders and abettorE are charged as -- and tried as prlnclgnls. So I think that a reading of the transcriSt and of ttre Court of Crlnlnal Appeals oplnion in this case nakes it cLear that she tdaE properJ.y convicted as a consPirator under this indlctment. TBE @URTI But slnclf ically -- I have read the Court of Appeale oplnlon. But egnclftca}ly what -- what do you contend ls the erridence as to lrlg. BOzenan that She nas a conspirator -- consPirator j.n castlng 11legal ballotE? UR. MELSODT: Okay. Wellr she and Julla Wilder went to the notary public wlth tlre absentee ballotsr and she knew that none of Etre persons who had signed those baLlots uere present when they were notarized. The notary testlfted that he told thera that thoee ballots couldnrt be legaIIy notarlzed unless those persons Here present, algor ttrat she had telePhoned the notary and partlcipated |n setting up the meetlng to notarize the ballots. One of the persons whose name apSnared on a ballot had been talked to by llts. Spannl or !1s. Boz€nan had talked to ![s. Strnnn about voting absentee. And !ls. SSnnn testifled she told her she voted at ttre polls, yet when they went and notarized these ballotsr lhere was !ls. Strrannt E name on one of these ballotsr when ln factT ll8. Sgnnn went to the Polls and vofed. And this ballot Ehat, they had there was cast' And there was also testlnony that Ehe went to the I ! .t 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 I 10 1'l 12 13 14 15 t6 17 18 r9 20 21 22 23 24r DUI.N, KING, KILPATRICK A< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTCOMERY, ALABAMA ]6104 courthouse with Julia Wilder the day that she carrled all these thirty-five or forty f,raudulent ballots up Ehere and deposlted thero in the clerkrs of f lce. So it,rs clrcurnstantlal evidencer of which the juryT I thlnkr could reasonably conclude that, she knew what was going on and $as a party to it; she was a consplrator. And I think under ilackson v. Virginla ttrat there was plenty of evidence [here to suPport a conviction under a conspiracY theory that she Snrticipated in a schesre Eo east these -- or wlth Julia Wllder t,o cast more than one vote and cast fraudulent voteB in thls e}ectlon. I donrt think there is any question about lt. lEE @URTr Okay. You say the -- under the indictnentsr as theyr re drafted -- &lR. UELSOI{: She was indicted as, a princilal oD -- it was subnitted to the jury on a consplracy theory. And under Alabarna lawr and I thlnk under Federal lawr bothr that -- wellr I know under Alabama law that thatrs -- thatts ProPer; that, the old comgon law stuff about the acconpllcea and aiders and abettors and co-conspirators has been abollshed by statute lal, since. ADd thatr s still the law in Alabamar that theyt re indicted by the principal. tHE @URT: Okay. L thlnk I thtnk under Federal Iaw you can be convicted as an aider and abeEtor even though you are charged only as a princlpal. And that, is your contention herer that she could have been convicted as an aider or abettor under the lndictnents ln this case? 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 MR. !iELSON8 Yesr sirr ttrat -- in factr thatrs wbat the Judge charged the jury oltr on a conspiracy. Thatre nhat lt was submltted to the jurf orlo THE COt RTI All rlghtr sir Anythlng further? MS. GUINIER: Yesr Your Eonor. I would llke to deal wlg1r the last polnt that the reapondents have ralsed firstr and then I uould like to address thelr clain that we have intentionally bypassed the StaEe procedural rsnedies. Flrst of a1lr the state is contendlng that she was convLcted as a co-conspirator, but she was not charged with conspiracy. If the State is contending that she was convicted as an alder or abettorr that is different. She was not charged wlth partlciSntlng in a ssheme aE a co-consPiraEor; and there Ytas no evldence, in additionr that Ehe dld partlcipate in any scheme or that she aided and abetted anyone nlth any epecific lntent to commlt a criroe or to see that that crime was conmitted. E'urthermorer tlre State clains that smewhere in the Record there is evidence that she went doun wlth lls. Wllder t,o casts those absentee ballots. I repeat that the only place in the Record where there ls any dlscusston of castlng batlots in -- that the defendant or lils. Wilder went down to the circuit clerkts officer occurs at Snges twenty and lwenty-one of Ms. Bozernanrg transcript. And tshat ls the testinony of the clerk ln the circuit clerk in the clrcuit clerkrs office. And I would just tike to read to the Court what that witness said: Question, rYou DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTCOMERY, ALABAMA 36I04 l0 11 12 13 't4 l5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 t-::-irl r: -i 'l 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 I r0 11 12 't3 14 r5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK E< LIVINGSTON RECISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORT'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 36I04 say you saw the defendant on Septenber ttre 25th. fhat ls Monday?t Answerr rYesr sir.t QuestiOnT iBefore the election on Tuesday?r Answerr 'Ye81 sir.r QuestlOn, rAnd she was in an automoblle?r Anewerl 'Iesl slr.t tDld you seei -- guestion, 'rDld you see her ln the conpany of a wotoan named Ju1ia Wilder?t Answer, rYeBT sir.' 'ObjectiOnr tf YOur Eonor, please. I object to leadlng the ultness. The Court: Suetained.' Questlon, tAll right. Was ehe wlth anybody? Was Mrg. Bozeotan with anybody when you saw her on that date?r Angwer, rshe was -- she rraa in the car and t{rg. Wllder ras ln the office.' Questlonr 'A1I r19ht" Def ense attorney: 'ObJ€ctlon. l,totlon to strlke. Not resPonsive to the quegtlon. The Courtr Sustalned. The jury w111 disregard the answ€f.t the angwer tlrat had been given that the jury wag instructed to disregard HosT 'She ras ln the car and !lrs. Wllder t as !n the office. t QuestlOn; "Wae anygne else in the car wlth &{S. Bozeman rrhen you Saw hef ?' AnSwer, "No, Eir. r QUeStlOn, 'Did she cone -- did ijtrs. BOzenanr herselfr cone into your offlce?tr Defense attorneyl iObjectiolrr repetitious. Ee has asked it three Eimes.' AnSwer, 'NO, slr.n In OtheE wordg, the gU€stlonr 'Did lits. Bozslan herself come into ygur office?' Answer, rNor sLr.r Questtonr rshe dld not co6ei !s that yogr testimony? She did not come lnto your office?' Answer, 'No, slr, ahe di&rrt cone |n that day.r Question, .lDid shet berself, bring any ballots to you?" Answer, 'On Ehat day?' Questlon, rOn that day or any day. Did she bring you any envelopes containing absentee ballots?' fuid then there ls colloquy between the attorD€lso Answer, 'I donrt remember.i Ihat ls the extent of the errld€rcer There is no evl,dencep €v€o !n the answer ttrat ttre jury lraa lnstructed not to conglderl that !ts. Wllder any ballots ln her hand nhen she wa8 ln the clrcult clerkrs offlcei but that anawer saa strlcken. So tbere is no evldence anywhere ln the Record that ehe or anyone tbat she knew cast any ballota ln that prinary runoff. N6rr rlth regard to the Statef s cont,entlon that Walnwrlght v. Slzkes o1-rates ag a bar to tbe Courtr E consideratlon of our clafuu on the notlce, the constit,utionality of the notice given to the two lntltioners' nunber or€; the state clalns that the Alabana contaporaneous objectlon rule precludee revlew. We do not conCeder Your Honorr that there were no contemtrrcraneous objectlons to the jury lnstructions. In factr ln Ms. I{ilderrs case, tlre defense attorney objected to the perjury chargel to the definltlon of illegal as a basis for lncorporatlng other statutesi to the }aws relatlng to fraudulent notary seals, which is beyond the purvlew of thisl and also objected that the charge dld not include a complete statement of the law as to the knogledge and intent as lt relates to thls trnrticular defendant. But the fact of the roatter is, Your Estorr w€rre not challenging the jury ingtructions ln thls particular claim. We are not asklng the Court to reachr on our motion for sumnary judgment, Ehe issue whether the trlal court properly or 7 8 I 10 l1 12 13 14 15 r6 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUN,'., KING, KILPATRICK A< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA ]6104 i/ :1 _.i 1 2 3 I I t0 1l 12 13 14 t5 16 17 18 l9 20 21 22 23 24 [] DUT".N, KING, KILPATRICK E< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA ]6I04 improperly instructed the joIYr had there been apPropriate notlce of the charges on uhlch the trlal court instructed the jollo l{e are not challenging the legal sufflciency of the Jury lnstructlon8o Bad the lndictrnent properly charged the four statuLes whlch the trlal judge charged the jury on and had Che indlctnent properly charged the neceesary factual elaboratlon on those four st,atutes as !fel} aE the necessary eletBents of those Statute6r i9 rrell as the necessary e]€nents of the one statute that rras chargedr then our claln of consltutional notlce would have been satisfied. Ttrere utay stll1 have been other grounds on which to challenge this convictionr but the ground of consltutlonal notice would have been satisfled. what we are saylng Is ln llght of the judgers charge and in llght of the Prosecutorrs theory of the caae; DoIl€ of the lnssible bases for convictlon were Presented and included and elaborated on in the only notLce that t[is -- t]rat these petitioners recelved of ttre crlmes for whlch they were belng made t,o defend thernselvesr and that is |n the indictrnent. ilust as we dlscuEEed the Courtrs charger w€ coul.d bave easily discussed the prosecutiont g stateoents that trere made in front of the july, that were nade to the Courtr that showed that the proeecutorte theory of tbis case wag not ttre -- ttre criure for which the defendant8 were glven notlce. The prosecutorrs theory of this case was that they had been involved in havlng ballots improperly notarlzedl and that parttcular act transformed those 1 2 3 4 5 o 7 8 9 t0 11 12 13 14 l5 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN. KING, KILPATRICK E< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 36I04 ballots sufflclent for the pur;nse of these stat--- this Etatute. That is not what the indlctnent charged. In factr the prosecutor picks out one statement in the indlct6ent, and that is the stateaent regarding lLlegal votingi and he then elaborates on that to come up rith thle theory regardlng fraudulent and illegal notarization. We claln that tt is absolutely unfair for the lndictnent ln thls ease not to speclfy prlor to trial just what thls notrel constructlon and lncorporatlon would be. 81na1ly we rould llke to lnint out with regard just to thls Walnsrlght v. Sylces clain that lack of notlce ln an indlctment tn Atabarna cannot be walvedi and we have clted lnallYr many cases to that effect ln our motion for sulamary judgment. In Alabamar the requirenent of notlce ls so fundamental that failure to include a single elenent of a elngle offense would be gufficient to overturn a verdlctr €v€o without contemporaneous objectlons. lrtoreorrer, in this particular case, I think as Your Bonor uas polntlng outr tJtere were objections at e'very stage of ttre proceedlngs to the lack of notice in the indictment. fuid, in factr in the Nabama Court of CrininaL Appeals opinionT they characterized the aplnllantr s clalm as a challenge to the indictment in that it failed - and I quote -- 'to inforn her of the nature and cause of the accueations agalnst her'" That is in the Alabana Court, of Crirninal Appeals opinion. That was a basis on which the appellants had challenged their convict,ion. fhey had chaLlenged ln the trial court. They had filed a special plea I l_) t 2 3 4 5 6 7 I 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 l8 l9 20 21 22 23 24 i---.ll-) DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK E< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORI'ERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET ivIONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 16104 challenging the notice ln the indicUnent and they have at e'very opportunity challenged the fallure of thls indictment to give then notlce drrd tor ![uotel rl.nform ttren of the nature and cause of the accusatlons agalnst them. r TEE COURT: I have not read the trlal judgere charge. Are you saying that he didnft suggest that they could flnd as some evldence of lllegaltty the fact that the ballots were lmproperly notarized but that thatl in and of itselfr congt,ituted a vlolatlon of ttre statute? !tS. GUINIERI I am saylng thatr Your llonor. ADdr in fact -- lBE @URT: A11 rlght' !lS. GUINIER: - the asPect of the charge Ehat I -- ItsE @URT: AIl rlght. IilS. GUINIER: -- read f rom Ms. Wilderts caser which I belleve 1g clted at Page three thirteen of her transcrtEt, says just that. lBE COURT: WeIl, If d llke to have the State respond to ttrat. I dont t noean to interrupt louo llS. GUINIER: Oh. THE @URTI But I knon that ordinarily the State lrould be finishedr but I would like to have them comment on that' &lS. GUINIERI One Polnt, Your Bonor' that the State has made Ehat I would like to resPond to is that they claim wer re challenging the sufficlency of the indictrnent and thaE thatr s not 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DU,I"N, KING, KILPATRICK A< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTCOMERY, ALABAMA 35104 reviewable on habeas corpus. That partlcular doctrlner that you cannot challenge the sufflclency of the indistnentr lefets to a challenge to tbe lndictruen! as a technical pleading. 8or example, if we were challenglng tbe indictnent as being nultlpltcltousr tlrat could not be reviewed on habeas corPus. But I wouLd ask the State to clte to ne any case that says that a cballenge to the lndlctnent for fallure to Provlde consltutional notice ls not Progfnost,tcal on babeas corPus. In fact, a case rhich ttre State clted ln lts anarrer to our notlor -- that isr the case of Cramer v. Fahner -- ltts a Seventh Circult case -- sayg exactly tlre optrrcslte of rhat the State has contended regarding the approprlatenees of revler on habeas corPus of the -- of the type of challenge that we are naking. And the Court tlrerc sayst iPetitlonerr - tbis ls ln resPect to a petltioner -- thls nas a State petitioner who ras trylng to challenge the sufficlency of an IlLinoie lndlctn€nto And the Court there saldt tEven tf the Illinols Court were wrong in naklng the dlstinctlon between a tnrjury lndlctgenti - wblch, !n lll|nolsr must se! out the operative words - 'and a sollcitatlon lndlctment' - rhlch in Illlnois did not -- the Court Baysr 'lt is not our role on habeas corpus to set aslde the Courtfs lnt,erPretatlon of lts own lan.r That was where ttre petltioneE Has -- was challenging the State Courtrs interpretation of uhat rrag necegsary as an -- a matter of State law. But the Court goes on to says tFor Petitionerts attack to be succesefulr he must go beyond nerely provlng that r'--:'--1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUn-N, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 36104 the alleged trial error has vlolated IlLlnolst old law and procedural rules andr I enphasLze -- 'show that the errors rose to the consltutlonal leveLr elther by naklng hts trial so furdamentally unfalr as to deny him due Process or by abrtdglng a speclfic consitutlonal guaranty such as the right to notice of ttre chargeE against hlnl whlch ls vlolated by a constltutlonally-vague lndlctnent." That is exactLy uhat we are challenging here. And habeas review ls perfectly aPPropriate to challenge the consitutlonal -- the constitutionality of an lndlctrnent where it falls to provlde adequate notlce. Thank you. lEE @URTI Thank You. &,!R. HELSON: Your Eqror, lf I tslderstood the Courtt s reguest about that you wlshed the SEate to respond to rras d1d the trial court charge tbe jury that sqre vlolatlon of one of those -- any one of those four Etatut,es, ln and of itselfr would be a vlolation of the statute tlrey were charged under? THE @URT: Wellr did the Court charge that a fraudulent or fal,se notary would be a vlolation of the statute? li!,R. I'{ELSONT Nor sirr Your Eonor. They are absolutely lncorrect about rrhat the Court -- that tttls -- [ts. Wilderf s case rrent to the Jury orir In factr I have quoted it here in ury brief in response to their brief for urotion for surlmary judgment; and the State subnltted it to the jury on two theoriesr and theytre exactly whatre charged in the indlctment. Thefirstorl€HosrtheCourtsatd:'TheStatechargesherethat' I 2 3 4 5 o 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 r6 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 the defendant voted more than oncer Urat she received ballots deslgnated for registered voterse tlrat sbe marked through or had these ballots narked the way she wanted them to be marked and they were eventually cast and counted ag lawful voteg. The charge !s that ttre defendant voted the ballots and not the absentee voters in whoee name they were deslgnated and that thls amounted to her havlng voted motre than oDC€.' Thatrs the first theory. The second one isl rThe State contends that the defendant particlpated ln a - the scheme to secure absentee ballots and to tllega1ly or fraudulentsly cast those ballots. It is the Stater s contentlon that on aooe of ttre absentee ballots that came lnto Julla Wllderts lrcssessionr she marked the ball'ots or had kncnledge that the ballots uere trarked by someone other than the reglstered voter and without that voterrs knowledge or consent, that she slgned or caused to be signed or had knorledge t,hat t5e ballots rrere signed by soneone other ttran the registered voter rithout that votert s knqrledge or consent. Such a ballot would be illegal to cast a ballot or partlclpate in the Bcheme to cast that ballot with kncrledge of theee facts, and that would fa1l withln the acts prohiblted by section 17-23-1." Thatrs what the case rras subnitt,ed to the jury on and thatrs what the court had to have -- sald they had to have Proof beyond a reasonable doubtr whateverr and thatrs exactly what uas charged in the indictnent. And thelr arguments about, they -- it was submitted to the jury on these ottrer four statutes -- that any technical DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK C< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA ]5104 l 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I I 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK E< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY. ALABAMA ]6I04 violation of thernr that ttre Judge sald that they could convlct under thls statute ls absolutely lncorrect becauee the -- that -- what Irve just read ls what the case was submitted to the jury one And wlthout proof beyond a reasonable doubt of werythlng the Judge charged Ehere, the jury wasnrt authorlzed to convict. The iludge was Just instructlng theo as !o how a ballot may be fraudulent, that isr lt was lnProPerly notarlzed and the Snrson who carrled tt up there knew and that sort of thing' Be wasnrt telling then that, Iookr tf they cast a ballot - carried a ballot up that was tnproperly notarizedr that theyr re autonatlcally 9ui1ty under t[at statute. Thatr s abso]utely lncor r ect,. TBE COURT: A11 rlght. IrIl read the charge then. MR. MEtS$l: AJ,l rlghtr sir. ItsE @URT: I understand it -- !IR. !{ELSOBI: I thintt they al} need to be read a8 a whole and all the evidence 100ked at as a whole. lHE @URT: All rlght. !tR. UELSON: Thank You. IEE @URTr Thank f ottr Mfi. GUINIERI Your Honorr I would juet ask that you look at 5nge three thlrteen of the Judgers charge in the wllder caser whlch comes after what the State has read to you. And in that Snrticular asPect of ttre charger which !s the final charge on the crines or statutes that were being charged against hert , .Aa 4 5 1 2 3 b 7 8 I 10 't1 12 r3 14 15 r6 17 r8 19 20 21 22 23 24 the State said the -- exeuse me -- the judge says: rlf the ballot was falsely attested tor then such a ballot would be illegal and any per8on who trnrticlSnted in a 8chetse to cast that baIlot with knouledge of tlrat fact would connit the acts prohlbited by Sectlon 17 -23-l of the Alabama Code of 19' - of -- thls nust be a tYPo -- 'of I875.r TEE COURT: Thank you. Thank you. Court wtl'I be 1n recegS. tti*tt t*tt**t**ttitt*tt***t IN TBE UNITED STATESI DISTRI T @URT FOR THE I,IIDDLE DISTRICT 08 ALABAI'TA NORTEERN DIVISION Ir Jenny Dunnr Substltute Court Re;nrter of the United States Dlstrict court for the l{Iddle Dlstrict of alabaraar do hereby certlfy that t[e foregoing 34 lnges contain a true and correct transcript of proceedlngs had before t}re said court held in the City of Dlontgomeryr Alabama, in the uatter thereln stated' In testlmony whereof I herer:nto set my hand on thls the 20th day of Juner 1984. Jenny Dunnz Substitute Court RePorter DUNN, KING, KILPATRICK O< LIVINGSTON REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL REPORTERS 908 SOUTH HULL STREET MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA 36104