Harvey Gantt Interview Transcript
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Case Files, Thornburg v. Gingles Working Files - Guinier. Helms Defeats Gantt in Duel of Old, New South News Article from the Los Angeles Times, 1990. 93d0b57a-e192-ee11-be37-6045bdeb8873. LDF Archives, Thurgood Marshall Institute. https://ldfrecollection.org/archives/archives-search/archives-item/f3cde95c-fcbe-4c31-8377-a8dadd5e0ef9/helms-defeats-gantt-in-duel-of-old-new-south-news-article-from-the-los-angeles-times. Accessed June 06, 2025.
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a\ HEADLINE: HELMS DEFEATS GANTT IN DUEL OF OLD, NEW SOUTH BYLINE: BY LEE MAY, TIMES STAFF WRITER DATELINE: RALEIGH, N.C. BODY: Republican Sen. Jesse Helms, icon of ultra-conservatives, defeated Democrat ttarvey Gantt, the former mayor of Charlotte, winning a fourth term and snuffing out his chaltenger's dream of becoming the nation's only bl-ack senator. With 942 of the vote counted, Helms led 53? to 472, a comfortable 130,000-vote margin. press ALT-H for Research Software Help; Press ESC for the Utilities Menu (c) l-990 Los Angeles Times, November 7, l-990 Shortly before midnight, a feisty Helms addressed cheering supporters at a downtown Raleigh hote1. He hailed a |treturn to the rnoral and spiritual i.deals,tl lambasted rrcheap politicians,'t the media, his critics and rrthe nighty liberal Establi-shmenttt and declared that they rrhave struck out again.rt To shouts of rrGive'em hellltr and frIell itlr Helrns, surrounded by his happy fanily, declared: ttToday, you have given me a mandate to continue to say no, and I make this covenant with you tonight: If the liberat politicians think I've been a thorn i-n their sides in the past, they haven't seen anything yet." Minutes tater, dt a nearby hotel, Gantt, clearly disappointed, spoke to his supporters, catling for unity and continued pursuit of liberal ideals. trIrm stilt smiling from way down deep, even though I hurt,rr Gantt saidr ds supporters chanted: ttHarvey! Harvey! rr He asserted that he wanted to rrappeal to your best aspirations,rr and said that rlit is stilI important that we address the probfems of our children. . . . rr As his wife, Cindy, sobbed at his side, Gantt said, ttI'rl going to continue to hold out hope that one day we'11 reach that point in time when hIe move together as a community. tt press ALT-H for Research Software HeIp; Press ESC for the Utilities Menu (c) 1990 Los Angeles Times, November 7, 1990 While his aides refused to caII his remarks a concession, several adnitted privately that it was virtually impossible for Gantt to overtake Helms' lead. Initial analyses showed that Helms drew heavily from less-educated white voters and those who are native North Carolinians, while Gantt won support among newcomers, black voters and well-educated white voters. Analysts had figured that Gantt needed to win at least 4OZ of the white votes to win. The contest ended on a fractious note, ES a massive failure of voting machines caused a judge to order po1ls in Durham County left open 2 l/2 hours beyond the scheduled 7z3O p.m. closing time. Officials also ordered crowded potts in Guilford County opened an hour longer. Both are urban areas believed to be Gantt strongholds. WhiIe Gantt rushed out to make extraordinary Election Night campaign appeals LEXIS', NEXtS', LEXIS', NEXTS', LEXTS'tEXrS' Services of Mead Data Central, lnc. t'a in Durham County, Helms campaign officials tried to get the order reversed and threatened to fornally protest the election. The late maneuvering, including charges of voting irregularities, seemed a fitting climax in a contest that pitted a black challenger against the controversial white incumbent who, during his l-8 years in the senate, has synbolized far-right conservatism. Press ALT-H for Research Software HeIp; Press ESC for the Utilities Menu (c) l-990 Los Angeles Times, November 7, 1990 Both candidates watched the electi-on returns here Tuesday night, after Helms voted here and Gantt cast his ballot in Charlotte. After voting, Helms stayed home, but Gantt stumped for votes throughout the day. He1ms, contentious to the end, totd reporters after voting that he had just a few words for Gantt: rrTell the truth, for once.rt After casting his ballot, Cantt said: rrWe always thought we hlere going to win. rr The two men fought a bitter, bruising battle that, in the end, centered on race and became a metaphor for the nation's emotional confrontation with the issues of race and racism. More than any other political campaign this year, the face-off between Gantt and Helms came to represent a struggle between the OId South and the New. Gantt, in speeches and advertisernents, portrayed Helms as ineffective in the Senate on a range of issues, including education, the environment and health care. He supported women's right to choose abortion and criticized Helms for opposing abortion rights. ttlt's time for a change,tt he said repeatedly. Press ALT-H for Research Software HeIp; Press ESC for the Utilities Menu (c) L99O Los Angeles Times, Novernber 7, 1990 Helms counted on North Carolinians to be content with the status quo, believing that he could win with an appeal based more on what he dlsliked than what he 1iked. Thus, in his campaign speeches, remarks on the Senate floor, interviews and ads he castigated homosexuals, liberals, some artists and women's rights activists. To the end, Helrns refused to acknowledge that his campaigrn centered on the o1d issue of race, insisting that the Senate race simply pitted a conservative against a liberal, grood against evil. North Carolina was ripe for this confrontation of contrasts. A state of contradictions, it is known nationally for its Research Triangle, dr area that hums with new technology and new residents who nigrated to the state. But it is also a state that ranks 49th on Scholastj-c Aptitude Test scores, one that routinely suffers racial clashes and hate-group activity. rrNorth Carolina, without question, has these two sides,rt said Nancy Neale, who directs the undergraduate social work program at Appalachian State University and is president of the state chapter of the National Assn. of Social Workers. "The mean side divides people up, setting off their worst fears. That's what we had in this race. rr LEXiS' NEXtS', LEXIS', NEXIS', LEXIS',n EX,S' Services of Mead Data Central, lnc. press ALT-H for Research Software Help; Press ESC for the Utilities Menu (c) 1990 Los Angeles Times, November 7, 1990 The combatants were well-matched archetypes -- the white symbol of power against the black symbol of hope for power- Gantt, a A7-year-old architect, rdas born in Charleston, S.C., one of five siblings whose iather was a Naval shipyard worker. From an inpoverished beginning, Gantt rose to mark several firsts, including becominqr, in L963, the fiist blick student at Clemson University. He earned a master's degree in city planning from Massachusetts Institute of Technology and in l-983 was elected-charlotlers first black mayor. He was reelected two years later but lost a third atternpt in L987. During his Senate campaign, Gantt often cited Charlotte, where 758 of voters were whif.e, to remind aouUters that he had a history of attracting white voters and defeating white candidates. None, however, had ever been as willing as Helms to use race in a campaign- The 69-year-o1d senator, a native of Monroe, N.C., son of the 1oca1 police chief, att6nded Wake Eorest College but never gradua!.d. Among.his several media jobs was a L2-year run as an editorialist at a television station here, a f,osition that rnade him famous as a hardball conservative. press ALT-H for Research Software Helpi Press ESC for the Utilities Menu (c) l-990 Los Angeles Times, November 7, L99o Helms parlayed his notoriety as television commentator into his first successful Senite race in L972, winningr reelection in L978 and l-984. previously, however, his opponents had been white. The 1990 contest, with Gantt the fiist btack Democralic nominee, Ieft analysts guessing when Helms would make the contest a racial one- He1ms gambled on making the racial gambit late in the race. Up until October, he spent iittfe ti-me in the state, working instead on Senate business in Washington, running advertisements and using fund-raising letters to take swipes at rthe special inlerests -- the ACLU, the homosexual crowd, the Hollywood fat cats, neol1e for the American Way, the so-calIed National Orqanization for Women, Planned Parenthood and the union bosses.rt Then, with Election Day about two weeks off, and opinion polls showing that Gantt was leading, Helms Lurned up the heat on race, in speeches as well as in advertisements. rrhat was a wake-up call,rt said Thad Beyte, a political science professor at the University of north Carolina. ItThat was to telI voters that 'this is an important race. Come on out.' That resonates with Some people.rr press ALT-H for Research Software HeIp; Press ESC for the Utilities Menu (c) l-990 Los Angeles Times, November 7, L990 GRApHIC: photo, Sen. Jesse Helms after voting in Raleigh, N.C. The Republican was reelected to a 4th term. Agence France-Presse; Photo, (Orange County Edition) Denocratic hopeful Harvey Gantt and wife Cindy hug after voting. LEXIS', NEXtS', LEXTS' NEXIS', LEXIS',tEXrS' Services of Mead Data Central, lnc.