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No. 12,494 United States (Enurt of Appeals For the Sixth Circuit JOYCE M ARIE CLEMONS, an infant, by GERTRUDE CLEMONS, her mother and next friend, DEBORAH K, ROLLINS, an infant, by NORMA ROLLINS, her mother and next friend, M YRA DARLINE CUMBERLAND, an infant, by ZELLA MAE CUMBERLAND, her mother and next friend, EVELYN M ARIE STEW ARD, VIRGINIA ANN STEW ARD and CAROLYN LOUISE STEWARD, infants, by ELSIE STEW ARD, their mother and next friend, DOROTHY MARIE CLEMONS, an infant, by ROXIE CLEMONS, her mother and next friend, on behalf of themselves and others similarly situated, Plaintiffs and Appellants, TH E BOARD OF EDUCATION OF HILLSBORO, OHIO, a body corpo rate, Serve: PAUL L. UPP, Superintendent, Board of Education, Hillsboro, Ohio, M ARVEL IC. W ILKIN, President, ELMER HEDGES, Vice President, W ILFRED L. PAUL, W ILLIAM L. LUKENS and JOHN H ENRY BROWN, members of the Board of Education of Hillsboro, Ohio; PAUL L. UPP, Superintendent of Schools of Hillsboro, Defendants and Appellees. A ppeal F rom the D istrict Court of the U nited States For the Southern D istrict of O hio, W estern D ivision APPENDIX TO APPELLANTS’ BRIEF RUSSELL L. CARTER, JAMES H. McGHEE, 949 Knott Bldg., Dayton 2, Ohio. CONSTANCE BAKER MOTLEY, THURGOOD MARSHALL, 107 W. 43rd St., New York 36, N. Y. Counsel for Appellants. Supreme Printing Co., I nc., 114 W orth Street, N. Y. 13, BEekman 3 -2320 TABLE OF CONTENTS OF APPENDIX PAGE Docket Entries . ................................................................. la Complaint ........................................................................ 3a Motion for Preliminary Injunction ............................. 10a Hearing on Motion for Preliminary Injunction . . . . 12a TESTIMONY P l a in t if f s ’ W itnesses Roald F. Campbell: D irect.................................................................... 19a Cross .................................................................... 24a Marvel K. Wilkins: Cross .................................................................... 25a Redirect .......................................................... 30a Paul Lyman Upp: Cross .................................................................... 31a R edirect............................................................ 44a Recross ................................................................ 47a James Dudley Hapner: D irect................................................................ 48a Order Continuing Proceeding on Motion for Pre liminary Injunction .................................................... 60a Answer ............................................................................... 61a Order Setting Tidal D a te ................................................ 63a Stipulation of Facts ........................................................ 65a 11 PAGE Testimony on Trial ....................................................... 70a P lain tiffs ’ W itnesses Marvel K. Wilkins: Direct . . . . . . . . Cross ............... Redirect .......... Paul Lyman Upp: Direct .............. Cross ................ Redirect............ (Recalled) Direct . . . . . . . . Helen Ash: D irect.......................................................... 116a Roald F. Campbell: Direct ............................................................... 117a Cross ................................................................. 120a 74a 89a 93a 98a 110a 111a 126a D efen d an ts ’ W itness Elmer Hedges: Direct ............................................................... 122a Decision of Druffel, D. J.............................. 139a Final Order ...................................................... 145a IN T H E (Emtrt nf Appeals For the Sixth Circuit No. 12,494 -------- ------------------o----------------------— • J oyce M arie Clem on s , an infant, by Gertrude C lem ons , her mother and next friend, D eborah K. R ollins, an infant, by N orma R ollins, her mother and next friend, M yra D arline C umberland , an infant, by Z ella M ae C umberland , her mother and next friend, E velyn M arie S teward, V irginia A n n S teward and Carolyn L ouise S teward, infants, by E lsie S teward, their mother and next friend, D orothy M arie Clem ons , an infant, by R oxib Clem ons , her mother and next friend, on behalf of them selves and others similarly situated, _ Plaintiffs and Appellants, v. T he B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, O h io , a body cor porate, Serve: P au l L. U p p , Superintendent, Board of Education, Hillsboro, Ohio, M arvel K. W il k in , President, E lm er H edges, Vice President, W ilfred L . F au l , W illiam L. L u k en s and J ohn H enry B ro w n , members of the Board of Education of Hillsboro, Ohio; P aul L. U pp , Superintendent of Schools of Hillsboro, Defendants and Appellees. A ppeal F rom the D istrict Court of the United S tates F or th e S outhern D istrict of O h io , W estern D ivision --------- --------------o---------------------- Docket Entries Complaint filed September 21, 1954. Motion for Preliminary Injunction filed September 21, 1954. 2a Docket Entries Hearing on motion for Preliminary Injunction Septem ber 29, 1954. Order continuing proceedings on motion for Preliminary Injunction entered October 1, 1954. Answer filed October 22, 1954. Order setting trial date entered December 13, 1954. Stipulation of Pacts filed December 28, 1954. Trial—December 29, 1954. Decision rendered January 28, 1955. Order denying permanent injunction entered February 16, 1955. Notice of Appeal filed February 16, 1955. 3a (Filed September 21, 1954) IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F ob. t h e S outhern D istrict op O hio W estern D ivision Complaint — -------------------------------------- ----— o -------------------------------------— — - .Joyce M arie Clem ons , an in fant, by G ertrude C lemons, her m other, and next frien d , et al., Plaintiffs, vs. T he B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, Ohio , et al., Defendants. o- 1. The jurisdiction of this court is invoked pursuant to Title 28, United States Code, Section 1343(3), this being a suit in equity authorized by law, Title 8, United States Code, Section 43, to be brought to redress the deprivation under color of state statute, ordinance, regulation, policy, custom and usage of rights secured by the Constitution of the United States, i.e., the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. 2. This is a proceeding for a temporary restraining order restraining the defendants and each of them from compelling infant plaintiffs to withdraw from the Webster and Washington public elementary schools in the City of Hillsboro, Ohio, solely because of their race and color. 3. This us a proceeding for a preliminary and per manent injunction enjoining the defendants and each of 4a them, their agents, employees, and successors in office from enforcing a policy, custom and usage of racial segregation in the public elementary schools of Hillsboro, Ohio. 4. This is a class action brought by the plaintiffs on behalf of themselves and others similarly situated pursuant to Rule 23(a)(3) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. The members of plaintiffs’ class are infant Negro children who were duly enrolled in the Washington and Webster elementary schools by the defendants and who have been forced to withdraw from these schools, after having duly enrolled therein and after having attended for several days, solely because they are Negroes. The members of this class are approximately seventy in number and there fore it would be impracticable to bring them all individually before this court, but there are common questions of law and fact involved, common grievances arising out of com mon wrongs and a common relief is sought for each of these plaintiffs as well as for the class. This class is fairly and adequately represented by the plaintiffs herein. 5. Infant plaintiffs are Negro citizens of the United States and of the State of Ohio residing in the City of Hills boro, Ohio. They are within the statutory age limits of eligibility to attend the public elementary schools of Hills boro. They possess all qualifications and satisfy all re quirements for admission thereto. 6. Adult plaintiffs are the parents of the infant plain tiffs. They are all adult Negro citizens of the United States and of the State of Ohio, residing in the City of Hillsboro, Ohio. They bring this action on behalf of their children and the class which they represent. 7. Defendant Board of Education of Hillsboro, Ohio, is a public body which exists pursuant to the laws of the State of Ohio. It is an administrative agency of the state and is Complaint 5a charged with the duty of administering a system of free public schools in the City of Hillsboro, Ohio. 8. Defendant Marvel K. Wilkin is the duly elected and acting President of the Board of Education of the City of Hillsboro, Ohio. 9. Defendants Wilfred L. Faul, William L. Lukens and John Henry Brown are all duly appointed and acting mem bers of the Board of Education. These defendants determine the policies of the Board of Education of Hillsboro and are charged with the duty of operating and maintaining a system of free public schools in the City of Hillsboro, Ohio. 10. Defendant Paul L. Upp is the duly appointed and acting Superintendent of Schools of the City of Hillsboro, Ohio and is the chief administrative employee of the Board of Education. 11. On the 7th day of September, 1954, infant plaintiffs Joyce Marie Clemons, Deborah K. Rollins and Myra Dar- line Cumberland were each duly enrolled in the Webster- elementary school in the City of Hillsboro, Ohio. On the 7th day of September infant plaintiffs Evelyn Marie Stew ard, Virginia Ann Steward and Dorothy Marie Clemons were each duly enrolled in the Washington elementary school in the City of Hillsboro, Ohio. The Webster and Washington schools are two of the three elementary schools in the City of Hillsboro under the jurisdiction, manage ment and control of the defendants and presently operated by them. All of the plaintiffs were duly assigned to classrooms in the school in which they were enrolled by defendants on the 8th day of September, 1954. On the 9th day and 10th day of September, 1954, the public elementary schools of Hillsboro were officially closed. Complaint 6a On the 13th day of September, 1954 all of the plaintiffs returned to the classrooms to which they had been assigned on the 8th day of September. On the 14th day of September, these plaintiffs were advised by defendants that they could not remain enrolled in the Webster or Washington schools and must register and enroll in the Lincoln elementary school. 12. Lincoln elementary school is the third public ele mentary school maintained and operated by defendants in the City of Hillsboro. It was established by the Board of Education of Hillsboro as a school to be attended exclu sively by Negro elementary school children. It was, until September 7, 1954, attended exclusively by Negro children, Negro children having been assigned to that school by defendants and having been compelled to attend that school by defendants solely because of their race and color. Its physical facilities and curriculum are grossly in ferior to the physical facilities and curricula of the Wash ington and Webster elementary schools. Only Negro teachers have been assigned to teach at Lin coln school. In the judgment of the community, Lincoln elementary school is inferior. 13. The plaintiffs refuse to enroll in and attend the Lincoln school because it is inferior to the other elementary schools in Hillsboro, because it is a racially segregated school, and because it is maintained and operated by de fendants in violation of the law and public policy of the State of Ohio and in violation of the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Complaint Complaint 14. Under color of their authority, the defendants have pursued for a long period of years and presently pursue a policy, custom and usage of segregating Negro elementary school children into the Lincoln elementary school in the City of Hillsboro. Under color of their authority, and pursuant to this policy, custom and usage, the defendants are presently at tempting to compel the infant plaintiffs, and other mem bers of their class similarly situated, to withdraw from the Washington and Webster schools and to attend the Lincoln elementary school. Under color of their authority, and pursuant to this policy, custom and usage, defendants have refused to per mit infant plaintiffs to continue to attend the Washington and Webster schools, in which they were duly enrolled and in which schools they had been assigned seats in regular classrooms and in which they were in attendance as regu lar students, solely because of their race and color. Under color of their authority, and pursuant to this policy, custom and usage, defendants have taken action to exclude the infant plaintiffs and others similarly situated from the Webster and Washington schools in violation of the right of plaintiffs to attend the school in which they were duly enrolled and in which they had been assigned to classrooms. 15. Prior to September 7, 1954 the Washington and Webster schools were limited to attendance by defendants by white students only, in violation of the laws and public policy of the State of Ohio and in violation of the equal pro tection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. 16. The infant plaintiffs and others similarly situated are and will continue to be irreparably harmed by the action of defendants in excluding them from the Webster and Washington schools. The infant plaintiffs have no plain, adequate nor complete remedy to redress the wrongs and 8a illegal acts herein complained of, other than this action for a temporary restraining order and for a preliminary and permanent injunction. Any other remedy to which plain tiffs and those similarly situated could be remitted would be attended by such uncertainties and delays as to deny sub stantial relief, would involve a multiplicity of suits, cause further irreparable injury and occasion damage, vexation and inconvenience, not only to the plaintiffs and those simi larly situated, but to defendants as governmental agents performing one of the most important functions of state and local governments. W herefore, plaintiffs respectfully pray this Court that upon the filing of this Complaint, as may appear proper and convenient to this Court, this Court advance this cause on the docket and order a speedy hearing of this action according to law and that: 1. This Court issue a temporary restraining order, until the further order of this Court, restrain ing the defendants and each of them, their agents, employees, and successors and all persons purport ing to act in concert with them from requiring the infant plaintiffs, and all others similarly situated, to withdraw from the Webster and Washington schools in the City of Hillsboro and restraining the defendants and each of them, their agents, employees and successors, and all persons purporting to act in concert with them from interfering with the right of the infant plaintiffs and others similarly situated to continue to attend the Washington and Webster schools. 2. This court issue a preliminary injunction pending the final disposition of this action and a per manent injunction upon the final determination of Complaint 9a this action enjoining the defendants and each of them, their agents, employees and successors, from: a) enforcing a policy of racial segregation in the public schools of Hillsboro, Ohio. b) requiring the plaintiffs and others simi larly situated to withdraw from the Webster and Washington schools solely because of their race and color. c) requiring the plaintiffs and other similarly situated to attend Lincoln elementary school or any other school in the City of Hillsboro which is attended exclusively by Negro children. Gertrude Clemons N orma R o llins . Z ella M ae Cumberland . E lsie S teward. R oxie C lem ons . R ussell L. Carter, 949 Knott Building, Dayton 2, Ohio. T huroood M arshall , C onstance B aker M otley, 107 West 43 Street, New York 36,. N. Y. Complaint (Verified by plaintiffs on September 1954.) 10a Motion For Preliminary Injunction (Filed September 21, 1951) IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F ob. the S outhern D istrict of O hio W estern D ivision Civil Action No. 3440 ---------------------- o-------------------—- J oyce M abie C lem ons , an in fant, b y G ertrude Clem ons , her m other and next frien d , et al., Plaintiffs, v. T he B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, Oh io , a body corporate, et al., Defendants. ---------------------- o-------— ------------- Now come the plaintiffs by their attorneys and move the court to grant a preliminary injunction restraining the de fendants and each of them, their agents, representatives and successors in office, until the final disposition of this action and proceeding by this court, from enforcing a policy of racial segregation in the public schools of Hillsboro, Ohio and from requiring the plaintiffs and others similarly situated to withdraw from the Webster and Washington elementary schools in the City of Hillsboro solely because of their race and color and from requiring the plaintiffs and others similarly situated to attend the Lincoln ele- 11a Motion For Preliminary Injunction mentary school or any other school in the City of Hills boro, Ohio, which is attended exclusively by Negro children. Dayton, Ohio, September 21, 1954. R ussell L . C arter, 949 Knott Building, Dayton 2, Ohio. T hurgood M arshall , C onstance B aker M otley, 107 West 43rd Street, New York 36, N. Y., Attorneys for Plaintiffs. 12a IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F or th e S outhern D istrict of O hio W estern D ivision Civil Action No. 3440 Testimony —-------------------- o---------------------- J oyce M arie C lem ons , an in fant, b y Gertrude Clem on s , her m other and next fr ien d , et al., Plaintiffs, vs. T h e B oard o f E ducation of H illsboro, O h io , et al., Defendants. ---------------------- o——— ------ —— B e it remembered that on Wednesday, September 29, 1954, at 11:09 o ’clock, a.m., the above-styled action came on for hearing before the Honorable John H. Druffel, Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern Dis trict of Ohio, WTestern Division. [2] Appearances: For the Plaintiffs: C onstance B aker M otley, Esq., R ussell L. Carter, Esq. and J ames H. M cG h ee , Esq. For the Defendant The Board of Education of Hillsboro and its named officials: J ames D. H apner , Esq. For the named individual Defendants : No appearance. 13a [3] The Court: Joyce Marie Clemons and others against the Board of Education of Hillsboro, Paul Upp, Super intendent. Both sides are ready'? Mr. Carter: Yes, sir. Mr. Hapner: Your Honor, I want to state that my name is James Hapner, and I am City Solicitor of Hills boro, required by law to represent the Board of Educa tion, but have not been admitted to this Court. The Court: Well, you will be admitted for this purpose. Mr. Carter: If the Court please, we would like to move the admission of Mrs. Motley of New York City, member of the Supreme Court Bar and New York State Bar. The Court: All right; that will be done. Each side may have fifteen minutes for an opening statement. Mrs. Motley: May it please the Court, we had planned to make a brief opening statement. In view7 of the fact that we have prepared proposed findings of fact and con clusions of law7, w7hich v7e would like to submit to your Honor, we have also prepared a brief list of authorities in a brief memorandum of law which we w7ould like to present to your Honor. The Court: We don’t want any findings of fact and conclusions of law. We want the evidence first, [4] Mrs. Motley: Yes, sir. The Court: So if you will make a statement of what you expect to prove, that’s— Mrs. Motley: Yes, sir. The Court: Watch your time now, will you? Mrs. Motley: Yes, sir; I will. It will be brief. This is a proceeding for a preliminary injunction, en joining the defendants, the Board of Education of the City of Hillsboro, the members of the Board and the superin Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 14a tendent of schools from requiring the infant plaintiffs to withdraw from the Washington and Webster Schools in the City of Hillsboro and to enroll in the Lincoln Ele mentary School, solely because of their race and color. We feel that the facts of this case are very simple. There are three elementary schools in the City of Hills boro; the Washington School, the Webster School and the Lincoln School. We expect to prove that the infant plaintiffs in this case enrolled in the Webster or Washington School on the 7th of September of this year, were assigned seats in the classrooms in the school in which they had enrolled; had remained in attendance for approximately a week, when the defendants sought to have them withdrawn and enroll at the Washington and Webster Schools solely be cause of their race and color. [5] The Court: You don’t mean that last. You have got that a little mixed up, haven’t you? Mrs. Motley: In the Lincoln School. The Court: Which is the school that you are com plaining about? Mrs. Motley: The Lincoln School. The Court: You said they had caused them to enroll in the Washington and Webster. You mean though, en roll in the Lincoln? Mrs. Motley: Yes; that’s right. To withdraw from the Webster and Washington and to enroll in the Lincoln School, solely because of their race and color. The Court: All right. Mr. Hapner: Your Honor, may it please the Court, we feel that the evidence in this hearing—- The Court: Raise your voice now, will you, so the reporter gets everything? Mr. Hapner: We feel that the evidence on this hearing for a preliminary injunction that the infant plaintiffs did Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 15a register at the Washington and Webster Schools in the City of Hillsboro, that due to the overcrowded conditions in those schools before, the Board on the following Mon day, which was the 13th of September, met and passed a resolution resolving that a zoning be made of the territory of the City of Hillsboro for the purpose of elementary school attendance; [6] that as a result of the zoning, strictly upon residential lines, the infant plaintiffs were required to attend the Lincoln School building; that as yet they do not attend that building— The Court: I didn’t get that last part. Mr. Hapner: As yet they do not attend that building., but they have withdrawn from the Webster and Wash ington buildings; that this was not strictly upon the grounds of their race and color; that in fact, in both of the Webster and Washington school buildings there are students of Negro race. The Court: Now, will you repeat that part? Mr. Hapner: That in both the Webster and Washing ton Elementary School buildings under the revised zoning program there are students of the Negro race, although in numbers considerably smaller than the white students; that the infant plaintiffs in this case have been assigned to the Lincoln building as a result of an exercise of the Board of Education of the City of Hillsboro of its ad ministrative discretion upon the basis of their places of residence and not their race and color. The Court: All right. First witness. Mrs. Motley: Mrs. Clemons, do you want to take the stand ? The Court: Well, could we stipulate now how many [7] witnesses there will be? The witnesses here have children that were originally assigned to either the Webster or the Washington School— Mrs. Motley: That is right. Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 16a The Court: —and were later on orders withdrawn and sent to the Lincoln School! Mrs. Motley: That’s right, sir. Mr. Hapner: I prefer to say they registered at the Webster and Washington School. The Court: They registered at Webster and Washing ton but later, because, as you claim, of overcrowded con ditions, they were assigned to the Lincoln School. Is that right! Mr. Hapner: That’s right. The Court: How many will you have! Mrs. Motley: There are five. The Court: Read the names into the record. Mrs. Motley: The first one is Mrs. Gertrude Clemons, Mrs. Roxie Clemons, Mrs. Norma Rollins, Mrs. Elsie Ste ward, Mrs. Zella Mae Cumberland. That’s five of them. The Court: Now, those are the mothers of children that were registered in the Webster and Washington Schools and were later, the School Board claims because of overcrowded conditions, assigned to the Lincoln School! Mrs. Motley: Yes, sir. [8] The Court: Now, will it be stipulated, too, that the Lincoln School is exclusively colored! Mr. Hapner : Well, your Honor, I will stipulate that at the present time there are no white students living within the zones, white elementary students living in the zones. The Court: There are no white families living in the zones! Mr. Hapner: I won’t say there are no white families; I am not certain. But there are no white elementary pupils, your Honor. The Court: In that zone! Mr. Hapner: That’s right. Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 17a Mrs. Motley: We couldn’t stipulate to that, your Honor. The Court: What? Mrs. Motley: We couldn’t stipulate to that. The Court: Well, all right; you don’t have to. Well now, that’s your case, isn’t it? Mrs. Motley: Well, may it please the Court, we have one expert witness that we would like to put on. The Court: Well, all right; but I mean as to the stu dents and their parents— Mrs. Motley: That’s right. The Court: —you have that and you want one [9] expert witness. Mrs. Motley: I am sorry. We plan to call the presi dent of the board and superintendent of schools as ad verse witnesses pursuant to Rule 42. The Court: All right. You may step aside. Call your expert witness then. Mrs. Motley: May we have a five-minute recess to con fer with our witness, please? The Court: You can go on. You know what you are going to say and do. Mrs. Motley: Well, pardon me just a second (confer ring with counsel). May it please the Court, we had planned to point out the individual differences in these cases of the five plain tiffs and— The Court: Well, it ’s all a class deal, isn’t it? They are all the same? Mrs. Motley: Yes, that’s right. The Court: Well, that’s all right. Mrs. Motley: May we have a two-minute recess right here at our desk without going out, sir? The Court: We will recess for five minutes then. Mrs. Motley: Thank you. (Thereupon, a short recess was taken.) Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 18a The Court: All right; go ahead. [10] Mr. Carter : Professor Campbell. The Court: Now, what will his testimony be about ? Mr. Carter: This professor is at Ohio State Uni versity. He made an impartial study of the Hillsboro school system at the request of the citizens there; and he is prepared to report on the conditions according to educational standards in Ohio schools and what, he found with regard to Hillsboro in comparison with other situa tions. The Court: What do you mean, “ other situations” ? Mr. Carter: Well, such as enrollment, such as the number of pupils in schools, whether they are congested, the racial patterns throughout the state as well as par ticularly Hillsboro; well, just pertaining to the rezoning according to standards in Hillsboro, comparison standards throughout other communities. The Court: We are not interested in other communi ties or other parts of the state. We are interested in the situation in Hillsboro. Now, you are claiming discrimina tion there. Mr. Carter: Well, he made a fact-finding survey of Hillsboro. The Court: If you will confine it to Hillsboro and to the issues here, it ’s all right. Mr. Carter: All right. Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 19a [11] R oald F. Cam pbell , ca lled as a w itness on behalf o f the p la in tiffs , being first duly sw orn, was exam ined and testified as fo llo w s : Direct examination by Mr. Carter: Q. Will you state your name! A. Roald F. Campbell. Q. Where do you live? A. I live at Columbus, Ohio; upper Arlington, to be more exact. Q. And where are you employed! A. I am employed at the Ohio State University. Q. And will you tell us the nature of your employment there! A. I am a professor of education assigned to the area of educational administration. Q. How long have you been at Ohio State! A. Soon be three years. Q. And where were you before that! A. I was at the University of Utah. Q. And how long were you there? A. Nine and a half years. Q. In Utah were you in the same field? A. I was in similar work. Q. Now, will you tell us your preparation to work in [12] this field, academically? The Court: I think that is sufficient. If he had nine years at the University of Utah, it is sufficient qualification. Mr. Carter: All right, sir. Q. Now, did you make a fact-finding study of the school situation in Hillsboro, Ohio? A. I made a study of the Hillsboro school district wfith particular reference to the zoning as it seemed to be applied to Negro and white pupils. My study was limited to the zoning. Roald F, Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Direct 20a Q. When did you make that study! A. These data were gathered on Monday of this week. Q. And for whom was that made! A. The request originated, as I understand it, with the plaintiffs; and they requested that the State Department of Education in Ohio make the study. The State Department indicated that they did not have personnel at this time to do that work, and they referred the request, as is often the case, to the Ohio State University, Bureau of Educational Research. The Bureau of Educational Research there asked me to do the study. Q. And I believe you stated that you did it this Mon day? A. That’s right. [13] Q. Now, tell us what your findings with regard to zoning were with respect to white and colored children, school children. A. Well, for many years I think Hillsboro has operated three elementary schools; two so-called white schools, the Webster and the Washington, and the so-called Negro school. Apparently this summer there has been some question that that practice should be continued, and so the Board was called upon to set up official zoning areas or attendance areas for pupils and divide them among the three schools. So far as I could determine the official zoning as set up for the Lincoln School was set up to include the Negro population of the city. Q. Now, when you say “ set up to include,” the word “ include” means other people or other things. Did you find any Negroes—strike that, please. The Court: Just a minute. I think for the bene fit of the record you ought to confine your questions to questions, you know; not make a statement for the record. Now, if you want him to explain his answer, ask him to explain what he meant by “ in clude ’ ’. Mr. Carter: Yes, sir. Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs■—Direct 21a Q. What do you mean— A. I do have an official report, which is not too [14] long. It might be desirable to read it. I don’t know whether that’s permissible or not. The Court: No. Let’s have the questions. A. All right. As far as I could determine, the areas selected as the attendance area for the Lincoln School were selected on the basis of race. Q. Now, those areas in which you found this were colored areas, were they? A. Somewhat, yes. Q. Now, did you talk to Mr. Upp, the superintendent? A. I did. Mr. Upp was very cooperative. Q. Did you mention your findings to him? A. I did. Q. What did he say with regard to that on the racial angle? A. Well, Mr. Upp indicated that for many years they had operated a Negro school and it seemed that as a temporary expedient until their new buildings were com pleted that they should continue to operate a Negro school. They have announced publicly, officially, that with the completion of the two buildings now under construction they expect to integrate the elementary schools. Q. Now, did Mr. Upp tell you that the reassignment to Lincoln School after this redistricting was strictly on the basis— Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Direct [15] The Court: Just a minute, please. This is your witness. You are not to ask leading questions. Ask him what the conversation was. Q. What was the conversation with Mr. Upp with regard to the assignment to Lincoln and the drawing of the lines on the zone? A. Well, Mr. Upp and I examined a map of Hillsboro, and we located these areas which had been included in the Lincoln attendance area; and I asked Mr. Upp if these areas had been selected because they did •22a include the Negro population, and he said that was the case. Q. Now, will you describe to the Court what you found with regard to capacity and room space at the three schools? A. Well, I think there are twelve rooms in Webster and twelve in the Washington. They are both rather crowded, as I recall. The average figures in the Washington School are 35.4 children enrolled and the highest was 50 children enrolled in one room, and 27 children enrolled in another room. At the Webster School the average class size was 38. Forty-six was the largest class, and thirty was the smallest class. Q. What about Lincoln? A. At the Lincoln School there were 17 children enrolled as of September 8th this year; and they were divided [16] into two groups, eight in one and nine in the other. Q. And how many rooms in Lincoln? A. There are four rooms in Lincoln. Q. How many are being used? A. Two rooms are being used for regular classes and the other two are being used for music and art purposes. Q. Now, can you tell us how many grades are taught at Lincoln School in two rooms? A. Six grades, first six grades. Q. How many teachers? A. Two teachers. I should add there, with the help of a special teacher in music and a special teacher in art. I think they come once each wTeek. Q. Now, the enrollment at Webster and Washington Schools of the Negro pupils, did you find that that would overcrowd—■ A. The enrollment figures I gave you were as of September 8th, I believe, this year, and included the 33 Negro children that reported at the Webster and the eight Negro children that reported at the Washington. Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Direct 23a I would say that these enrollments—that the schools are crowded beyond desirable standards. There are, of course—well, I think that’s sufficient. Q. Could you tell us whether or not the enrollment at Washington and Webster schools was down this year com- pored [17] with last year? A. I have the figures here for the last three years. 1953 the enrollments were slightly above ’52, and in 1954 the enrollments are slightly below ’53. The Court: Is that per room? The Witness: This is total enrollment, all ele mentary children in the three buildings. The Court: Total, not per room? The Witness: No, not per room. Q. And this year you had less pupils than last year; is that right? A. Last year the total elementary enrollment in Hillsboro was 928, as of the first week of school; and this year it was 899. 1952 it was 886. The Court: What did you mean before when you said 56 and 58? The Witness: Your Honor, when I indicated the other figures, I was talking about the smallest single room enrollment and the largest— The Court: That is what I asked you, and you gave me the impression that that was the total. Now you say 928 for last year was the total enroll ment; is that right? The Witness: For all elementary schools in Hillsboro. [18] The Court: Yes. The Witness: Correct. The Court: And 896 this year? The Witness: 899 this year. Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Direct 24a The Court: Yes. So the other 56 or 58 meant per room? The Witness: I didn’t give any figures of 56 or 58. I did indicate that in the Washington School one class was as large as 50 and one as small as 27, and the average there was 35.4. The Court: All right. The Witness: And in the Webster School the largest class was 46, the smallest 30, the average 38. The Court: All right. Mr. Carter: That’s all. Wait just a moment. The Court: Do you have any cross-examination! Mr. Hapner: Just a few questions, your Honor. Cross-examination by Mr. Hapner: Q. Dr. Campbell, in the course of your study did you have reason to visit the Lincoln School building? A. I visited all three buildings. Q. And did you have occasion to compare the physical facilities of that building with the other two buildings? A. That was done in a cursory manner. So far as I [19] could determine, all three buildings are in rather bad physical condition. Q. Could you say or tell the Court whether the physi cal conditions at the Lincoln buildings are inferior to the other two buildings? A. As far as I could tell, in the brief examination I made of them, I do not think the Lincoln School is inferior to the other two elementary buildings in physical properties. Mr. Hapner: That’s all. The Court: All right. You are excused. The Witness: Thank you. (Witness excused.) Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Cross 25a Mr. Carter: Next we will call the president of the Board of Education in cross-examination as an adverse witness. The Court: All right. Marvel K. Wilkin—For Plaintiffs—Cross M arvel K. W il k in , ca lled as a w itness on beha lf o f the p la in tiffs , be in g first du ly sw orn, w as exam ined and testi fied as follows: Cross-examination by Mrs. Motley: Q. Will you please state your name! A. Marvel K. Wilkin. Q. Are you a defendant in this case? A. Yes, ma’am. [20] Q. Are you the president of the Board of Educa tion of Hillsboro, Ohio? A. I am. Q. How long have you been president of the Board? A. About nine months now. Q. How long have you lived in Hillsboro? A. Well, I was born in Highland County and have lived in Hillsboro for the past six or seven years; and have been a resident of the City of Hillsboro and Highland County for all my life. Q. Would you tell us what the racial policy is of the Board of Education of Hillsboro with respect to the ele mentary schools? A. We don’t have any racial difference in schools of elementary of Hillsboro. Q. Are there any white children, to your knowledge, enrolled in the Lincoln School? A. In my knowledge, I am not sure about it. But the geographical rezoning we done, if there is any white children in it, we don’t know about it. If they was, they would go to the Lincoln building. 26a Q. But you don’t know? A. No. But if any moved in or moved out—moved in, they would have to go to the Lincoln building*. We do know that. [21] Q. Have there been any white children in the Lin coln School that you know of? A. I couldn’t—I do not know that question for sure. Q. Prior to September 7th of this year were there any Negro children in the Washington or Webster Schools? A. There have been colored children in the Washington and Webster buildings. Q. When was that? A. In past years. Q. When? A. Well, I don’t know7 the exact dates; but at some former time we have had them in those buildings. Q. Has it been within the last ten years? Were there any there within the last ten years? A. I think there has, yes, ma’am. Q. Bo you know them ? A. No. I wasn’t on the Board. Q. But you don’t know of your own knowledge that there were Negro children in Washington or Webster within the last ten years? A. I have heard there was. Q. You heard it? A. Yes. Q. But you don’t know it? [22] A. No. I haven’t got the exact figures, but I am pretty sure there was. Q. How long have you been a member of the Board of Education? A. Two years and nine months. Q. Prior to September 7th and within that two-year period do you know whether there were any white children enrolled in the Lincoln School? A. Well, I couldn’t say for sure about that because there were certain children that you cannot state which race they belong to that went to that building. Q. I didn’t get that. I am sorry. A. I said that you could not say for sure about that question because there has been certain go there that could be put in either race, and I wouldn’t want to say for sure and say something that Marvel K. Wilkin—For Plaintiffs—Cross 27a is not right; so I wouldn’t want to answer that because I don’t know. Q. Can you name any of the children that you say you can’t tell are white or colored? A. Not right offhand, no; but I ’d say there are several of them in the country, and there are some of them at Hillsboro. Q. Isn ’t it true that there is a white family who lives right next door to the Lincoln School by the name of Evans who have a son who does not go to the Lincoln School [23] but goes to the Washington School! Isn’t that true? A. I t ’s true, and that family is zoned south of Collins Avenue, if I remember right; and I won’t be sure of that. The zoning said all north of Collins Avenue, and I think that family lives south of Collins Avenue. Q. Isn ’t it true that their home is adjacent to the Lin coln School property, right next to the Lincoln School property? A. I think that’s right. Q. And that boy goes to Washington School? A. I think that’s right. Q. Isn’t it true that there are a number of white chil dren who, in order to reach the Washington School, must pass the Lincoln School, that, is coming down the streets they pass parallel with the Lincoln School to reach the Washington School? A. Why, I think I can answer that in the respect that we have one elementary school that’s in the center of Hillsboro, the population, that is, Webster. I f everybody went to the nearest school we would have 700 of the 900 kids going to the Webster School. My own girl goes to WTebster—I mean she goes to Washington, and she is three blocks closer to Webster than she is to Washington, but she still goes to Washington. The way Hillsboro schools are set up, we could [24] not send them to the closest school. If we did we would have them all going to one school. Q. I don’t believe that’s the question I asked you. The question I asked you was whether it is not true that wdiite Marvel K. Wilkin—For Plaintiffs—Cross 28a children pass the Lincoln School to attend the Washington School! A. Not necessarily, no. Q. There are no white children who live just above the Lincoln School who, in order to reach the Washington School, must pass it, coming down the side streets and so forth? A. I am not sure. But if I ain’t mistaken, they live closer to North High Street, which they would prob ably go up and go up North High Street. Q. And they pass the Lincoln School parallel with it coming down, don’t they? A. I don’t know whether they pass it, but they do live closer to North— Q. They live closer to Lincoln? A. They live closer to Lincoln than they do to Washington, but it don’t neces sarily say they have to walk past Lincoln. Q. That’s right. But they live closer to Lincoln; isn’t that true? A. That’s right. [25] Q. Isn’t it true that they go to Washington only because they are white? A. That’s not true. We have colored children going to the Washington building, zoned in the Washington building. Q. Isn’t it true that those white children pass the Lincoln School, although they live right there, and go to Washington solely because they are white? A. No. Our— Q. Why are they permitted then to pass the Lincoln School? A. Our Lincoln School is not big enough to take care of too many children, so we are limited in how many we can assign to the Lincoln School building. Q. Did you hear Dr. Campbell testify that there were only 17 children in the Lincoln School? A. There is only 17 there, but there is supposed to be more than that if they reported to that—- Q. How many more ? A. I haven’t got the exact figures. I wouldn’t want to say that. Q. Isn’t it true that there are two classrooms in the Lincoln School that are not being used for teaching chil Marvel K . Wilkin—For Plaintiffs—-Cross 29a dren; they are being used for music or some other activity? A. That’s right. We took the blackboards out of [26] them to prepare the lower buildings that we had a fire up there and damaged them; and we had to do some things we didn’t want to do to get the building back in shape, the two rooms. Q. Isn’t it true that more children can be accommodated in the Lincoln School than you have at the present time? A. It wouldn’t be feasible to do that because we need a music room and an art room. We have one at the Wash ington building. We use the old auditorium for music and art in the Washington building; and we need a place for that in the Lincoln building. Q. But those rooms could be used for classrooms, couldn’t they, if you had an overflow of Negro students? Wouldn’t you use those rooms for regular classrooms? A. No, we would not. Q. Where would you put those extra Negro students? If you should have 50 to enroll today, where would you put them? A. We would mix them up in the Washington building like we did with part of the others. We just sent enough to Lincoln that have a nice classroom. The rest go to Lincoln, that goes to the Washington and Web ster building, and they are assigned there, and they have been going to school there. Q. Now, you said you assigned just enough Negro children to Lincoln to have a nice classroom; is that right? [27] A. No. We assigned enough in the district of Hills boro so we wouldn’t overcrowd the Lincoln any more than the other buildings. Q. Did you assign any white children to Lincoln? A. We didn’t aim—if they lived in the district, they would be assigned to Lincoln. I wouldn’t swear to that, whether any lived in that district or not. Marvel K. Wilkin—For Plaintiffs—Cross 30a Q. Did you assign any to Lincoln? A. If they live in that district, they go to Lincoln. Q. Do you know of any that are going there? A. Well, I am not too familar with it. But if there is any lived in this zoning district, they would go there; I promise you that. Q. Are there any white teachers at Lincoln? A. No, I don’t think there is. Q. Are they any Negro teachers in Webster or Wash ington? A. No, I don’t think so. Q. Isn’t it true that a number of Negro children must pass the Washington School going north to arrive at the Lincoln School? A. That is right. Q. Why is that so? A. For the simple reason I told you; that my child goes right three blocks closer to one building, but she goes [28] to another one. And the way our school buildings is set out in Hillsboro we cannot assign people to the closer building or we would have them all in one building; and we don’t have facilities for that. Mrs. Motley: I think that’s all. The Court: Just a minute. Any cross-examina tion at this time? Mr. Hapner: Yes, your Honor. Redirect examination by Mr. Hapner-. Q. Mr. Wilkin, are you acquainted with any of the adult plaintiffs in this case? A. Yes, sir; I am. Q. Can you testify of your own knowledge whether any of their children have had to pass the Lincoln building to arrive at either the Webster or Washington building? A. I think that Mrs. Steward, Mrs. Roxie Clemons live north of the Lincoln building, and they would have to pass the Lincoln to get to the Washington. Marvel K. Wilkin—For Plaintiffs—Redirect 31a Q. And are you acquainted with who teaches art in the Lincoln building, and music! A. I am. Q. And can you tell me whether those teachers are white or colored? A. They are white. [29] Mr. Hapner: That’s all, your Honor. (Witness excused.) Mr. Carter: The superintendent of schools, please. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross P aul, L y m an U p p , ca lled as a w itness on beha lf o f the p la intiffs, being first du ly sw orn, w as exam ined and testi fied as follows: Cross-examination by Mr. Carter: Q. Will you state your name, please? A. Paul Lyman Upp. Q. And what is your occupation? A. Superintendent of Schools of Hillsboro, Ohio. Q. How long have you been superintendent of— A. Fourteen years. Q. And where did you work before that? A. Well, you refer to my teaching? Q. Did you teach? A. I taught in Hillsboro thirty-two years. Q. Then you have been in the Hillsboro school system forty-six years? A. No; thirty-two years. Q. Thirty-two altogether? A. That’s right. Q. Counting the fourteen as superintendent? A. That’s right. [30] Q. Well, do you teach and superintend ? A. Not at the moment. 32a Q. Well, i t ’s a total of thirty-two years! A. That’s right. Q. Now, I have a map here of Hillsboro, and I would like for you to— The Court: Let’s have it marked. Mr. Carter: Mark this. (Thereupon, a map of Hillsboro, Ohio was marked Plaintiffs’ Exhibit No. 1 for identification.) Q. Mr. Upp, I am going to hand you here a piece of paper— Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross Mr. Carter: This should be marked, too, I guess, Number 2. While you are at it, mark this 3. (Thereupon, a letter dated September 15, 1954 addressed to “ Dear Parent” and signed by Marvel K. Wilkin and Paul L. Upp, and a sheet of paper headed “ Hillsboro City Schools, Pupil Assignment” , and dated September 17, 1954, were marked Plain tiffs’ Exhibits Nos. 2 and 3, respectively, for identi fication. ) Q. —Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 2 here. Can you tell us what that is? Marked for identification. A. This is the letter sent to the parents of the children of the Hillsboro School District stating that the children living within the City of Hillsboro will be assigned to and attend the elementary school building which their [31] residence address deter mines. These districts are as follows, and they are named. Q. Various streets? A. That’s right. Q. Did you have anything to do with sending that out? A. Yes. My name is signed to it as superintendent of schools. Q. And you have full knowledge of the contents? A. That’s right. 33a Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross Q. And who else signed it? A. The president of the Board of Education, Mr. Marvel K. Wilkin. Q. Were you present when he signed it? A. No. Q. Is that his signature as far as you know? A. Yes. Q. Here is Plaintiffs ’ Exhibit 3 for identification. Can you tell us what this is? A. This is a form used by the Hillsboro City School system for pupil assignment, dated September the 17th, 1954: “ In accordance with the re- districting of the elementary school zones within the corpo rate limits of Hillsboro by the Hillsboro City Board of Education Deborah K. Hollins is assigned to the Lincoln School. He or she will report to the assigned school tomorrow. [32] Q. What date is on that! A. September the 17th, 1954. Q. Did you also issue that? A. It was issued by my delegation by the principal of the school. Q. What do you mean, your delegation? A. In all cases where the delegation of authority that I can’t handle all cases. It was issued by my authority. Q. Oh. You mean authority? A. l Tes, as superinten dent of schools. Q. Not delegation. Now, this Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 2 for identification, this letter, refers to a resolution. When was that resolution passed? A. It was passed September the 13th, 1954, as I recall. Q. And was that after the colored children were ac cepted into Washington and Webster Schools? A. It was after the colored children were registered in the Washing ton and Webster buildings. Q. And when were they registered? A. They were registered on the 8th of September, as I recall. Q. And this was passed some five days after that? A. Yes. Q. And then this Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 3, was that also [33] sent out after they were registered in the two schools, Webster and Washington? A. Yes. 34a Q. Now, can you tell me whether this is a map of Hills boro as you understand the city after thirty-two years? A. Well, it says that it is a map of Hillsboro, yes. Q. And have you seen that map before? A. Yes—not this map. I don’t think I have seen this map; but similar maps. Q. Well, have you seen that map? Did I bring you this map? Is that your—- A. Yes, that is. I have seen it. Q. Lincoln School wasn’t even on the map, was it? A. No, it was not. Q. The other two schools are on the map, aren’t they? A. Yes, sir. Q. Now, pursuant to what authority did you send out these two exhibits? A. Pursuant to a resolution passed by the Board of Education for residential rezoning of Hillsboro. Q. How did the Board of Education and you determine what streets should be included in the zone for Washington and for Webster and for Lincoln? A. It was determined on a residential factor. Q. Now, I want you to do a little drawing for us, if [34] you will. I have red, blue and green. Now, I would like for you to take this red crayon and draw for the Court and myself the Lincoln School district. I will give you your letter where you state what streets are for Lincoln. The Court: Suppose you step down to the table where you can— Mr. Carter: Yes. A. I don’t think I can do that. All these streets are not named on here. We have never prepared a map. I can’t do that. Q. Well, you have been there thirty-two years. A. That doesn’t mean that I know the streets well enough to do that. I can’t do that. Paul Lymcm Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross ? Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross Q. Well, do tlie best you can, will you? This is your resolution. Follow it. Just follow it. “ Lincoln, East Street north of Collins Avenue.” You know where Collins Avenue is. A. We have never prepared a map. I can’t do that. I am very sorry. It wouldn’t be a factual situa tion, and I cannot do it. Q. Now, Mr. Upp, how did you find that all children on East Street north of Collins should go to Lincoln if you had never seen a map or— A. We followed the resolu tion of this—not this resolution. We followed the resolu tion, but did not have a [35] map either in the office or any map designating the area. Q. Well, how did you pick, for instance, Walnut Street east of Key Street to designate that all those children should go to Lincoln? A. The map was drawn by our legal counsel—the resolution was prepared by our legal counsel, and he prepared the area. Q. You mean Mr. Hapner? A. Yes, sir. Q- Then is all this zoning Mr. Hapner’s doings? A. No, sir; I wouldn’t say so. He prepared the resolution. Q. Now, can you tell us about Webster building? Will you take the green crayon and draw Webster, the streets on which students live that have to go to Webster? A. I don’t believe I am possessed of enough facts to do that either. Q. Well, here is your resolution. A. Yes, I know that, Q. You have been there thirty-two years. A. I have. Q. Do you know where High Street is? A. I do. Q. Do you know where Beech Street is? A. Yes. [36] Q. Somers Street? A. Yes. Q'. The east side of West Street between Beech and Somers? A. Yes. Q. Tower Avenue? A. Yes. Q. The first block of Beech Street? A. Yes. 36a Q. North Street? A. Yes. Q. Catherine Street? A. Yes. Q. Collins Avenue? A. Yes. Q. Now, draw those for us, will you? Will you draw this for us? A. Well, I don’t think I am possessed of enough facts to do it. If the Court orders me to do it, I will do it. Mr. Carter: I would like the Court to order him to do it. He has been there thirty-two years and he has made a resolution— The Court: Yes, and he said he can’t draw it and give a factual description as you request; so we will [37] have to take his word for it. If he is un able to do it, he is unable to do it. Mr. Carter: Now, if the Court please, if this wit ness can’t do it, I would like to beg the indulgence of the Court to put Mr. Hapner on, the attorney, so he could do it, since he said he did it. The Witness: Am I excused, sir? The Court: No; we are not going to do it this way. Let’s finish your examination of this witness. Could I ask you a question? Dr. Campbell testi fied here in this controversy with you that you are building two new school buildings in Hillsboro. Is that right? The Witness: That is true, sir. The Court: What is the status of the buildings ? How far are they along? The Witness: The Webster building, which is the first contract let— The Court: I wish you would listen to this. This is important. What is it? The Witness: The Webster building on Walnut and Elm Street, which is the first one under con- Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross struction, the footings have been dug, the ditches have been dug and the concrete is in the process of being poured. New furnaces are in the process of being installed at [38] that building. The contract for the drawing of the plans for the Washington building has been let, and the revision of the plan has been under way for some time by Mr. Sullivan, Isaacs & Sullivan of Cincinnati. The Court: Now, what did you say, too, about this integration of the colored and white pupils when those new buildings are up! The Witness: I made the recommendation, which is not recorded, in the minutes of the Board in 1951, that the seventh and eighth grades be integrated into the junior-senior high. And at that time a dis cussion was held pending the passage of bond issues in Hillsboro that all children would be integrated. We have had three failures of bond issues in Hillsboro and had a difficult time in finally passing- one. In 1953 it was passed. And at a public meet ing preceding the planning of that Mrs. Vernon Young, a minority representative at that meeting, a colored lady, asked me personally, publicly, what we were going to do when the buildings were completed. At that time I publicly stated that we would integrate all children. On August the 9th of this year a delegation of colored people appeared before our Board and asked for a statement of what our future plans were. At that [39] time a resolution—a motion was made by a member of our Board, seconded and passed unani mously, that the plan that I had submitted to the Board for the integration of all children in Hills boro would be accomplished or achieved upon com pletion of the new elementary buildings. 38a The Court: All right. You may proceed with your examination. Q. Did you put that motion in writing and give it to the colored delegation! A. That motion was sent, as it appeared from the minutes of the Board of Education, as I recall, and sent to the then Citizens Committee of Hills boro, including my statement and the unanimous vote of the Board of their plans for the future. Q. Was it signed by anybody! A. It was not signed. The names were typewritten on, as I recall. Q. Now, isn’t it true that the Lincoln zoning or district is divided into two parts, one on the northeast side of town and one on the southeast side of town! A. That’s true. Q. Why is the Lincoln district divided into two parts! A. Based on a residential area of trying to continue [40] the pattern of operation that we have had in Hillsboro, due to the factors that we have mentioned here. Q. You mean you have had a pattern for your thirty- two years of segregation! A. No, we have not had a pattern. We have had an inherited situation, which I am not familiar with except as superintendent. I don’t know whether you call it segregation or not. I haven’t called it segregation recently. Q. Well, who did you inherit it from ! A. Well, the past superintendents who had preceded me. Q. And this pattern would comprehend that no white students have gone to Lincoln, would it? A. Not to my knowledge have they ever attended there; not to my knowledge. Q. And no white regular teachers at Lincoln? A. No, exeept the speech teachers. Q. Yes. Once a week? A. Yes. Paul Lyman U-pp—For Plaintiffs—Cross 39a Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross Q. And that would include only since September the 7th, this year, there has been three colored at Webster and eight at Washington! A. No. Your question now—what is your question. The Court: I tell you; suppose you stand over here. [41] Mr. Carter: Pardon me. The Court: That is kind of out of order to be standing right back of the witness. Face him. Q. How many white children have gone to Lincoln since its establishment? A. None to my knowledge. Q. And do you know of any of these people you can’t tell whether they are white or black! A. That wasn’t my statement. I have no factual information about that. Q. And prior to September the 7th how many colored went to Webster and how long ago? A. Prior—State your question again, please. Q. Well, just tell us if any colored ever went to Web ster in your thirty-two years? A. When? Q. When did they last go there prior to September the 7th? A. I would say ’38 or ’39 or ’40, as I recall. Q. Fifteen years ago? A. Yes. The Court: You mean since that time there have been colored in those schools? The Witness: No. Before that time, I under stood the question. [42] Q. Yes. That’s when they were out, around ’39 or ’40? A. I believe so. Q. And why was that? A. Why were they reassigned? Q. Yes, to Lincoln, only Lincoln? A. At that time, fol lowing a pattern which had been in effect, that was the assignment. 40a Q. When was Lincoln established? A. Well, that I cant ’ tell you. I have tried to get the data on the historical contraction of it, but I can’t find any minutes. I don’t know. 1865 or prior to that. I don’t know. Q. Right around the Civil War? A. I would say so. That’s pure guess. It isn’t factual. Q. Was it named after Abe Lincoln? A. I would as sume so, but I can’t say that as a factual statement. Q. Now, isn’t it true that the way you have the city divided, with two sections going to Lincoln, that that was specifically done that way so that just Negroes would go to Lincoln? A. It was set up, as I stated before, as a residential zoning to follow a pattern that we deemed neces sary because [43] of existing conditions in our other schools. Q. Now, when you say “ conditions,” you mean racial conditions? A. No. I have no reference whatsoever to racial conditions. Q. What conditions do you mean? A. I mean construc tion conditions and congested classroom conditions. Q. Have you been constructing since 1939 and ’40? A. No, no. That isn’t true. We have had a congested condi tion in the classrooms and areas which has not been brought out to this date. We had one last year. It occurs in certain classes. It doesn’t occur in all classes. With all due respect, and it was a very good report, that Dr. Evans’ report, it doesn’t tell the entire story because there are certain classes that have 50; there are certain classes that are normal. The Court: You mean Dr. Campbell? The Witness: Dr. Campbell, yes. Q. Now, isn’t it true that a white fellow that lives next door to Lincoln, only 30 or 40 feet way, goes to Wash ington, named Evans? A. He lives there. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross 41a Q. Where does he go to school! A. He goes to Wash ington. [44] Q. And he is only about 50 feet from Lincoln, isn’t he? A. I would assume that he is in the district that he should attend by the zoning. Q. You mean that you put the lines halfway between a 40-foot space, everybody on the right goes to— A. It was made on a residential district of street. Q. Well, how could you cut off a house next door to Lincoln? A. That I don’t know. It was made on a street program, and that was it. Q. Well, Lincoln School is right around the corner from his house, isn’t it ? A. That’s right. Q. Isn ’t it true that many white children on North Street, Willow Street, Collins, Cathe rine and the north ern part of High Street, Hazel Street, northern part of East Street, some only one block from Lincoln, go to Washington and have to pass right by Lincoln? A. I would assume that is true, sir. Q. Isn ’t it true that many white children on Water Street, John Street, Holmes, Fair Street, some only a block from Lincoln, go to Webster? A. I would assume that to be true, sir, on the basis of zoning. [45] Q. Why don’t those white children go to Lincoln? A. Because they were zoned in the area that we mentioned. Q. Then your zoning was very convenient along the racial lines? A. It was not. It was on residential lines. Q. Are you going to have this Court believe that you drew a line between the side yard of Lincoln and the house next door and sent the Evans boy to Washington, and everybody over here goes to Lincoln? A. I am just mak ing the statement that we are assigning the children ac cording to their zones. Q. Now, don’t Gertrude Clemons’ child, Mrs. Clemons’ child, Mrs. Rollins’ child and Mrs. Cumberland’s child pass by Washington each day to get to Lincoln? A. Well, I assume they do. I believe they do. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross 42a Q. How many classrooms did you say were in Lincoln! A. Two. Q. And aren’t there two rooms upstairs! A. Yes, sir. Q. And they are empty as far as instruction is con cerned, aren’t they! A. Well, they have special classes up there, music and art. Q. How many children outside the corporate limits [46] of Hillsboro go to Washington and Webster! A. Well, we transport 525 children from outside the corporate limits. I can’t give you a breakdown of the exact number in Wash ington and Webster. Q. Well, 500 anyway? A. Well, no. Now, your ques tion was how many go to Washington and Webster? Q'. Yes. A. The 500 are transported, Washington, Web ster and high school. Q. Yes. How many from outside the corporate limits of Hillsboro go to Lincoln? A. None that I know of. Q. Any of those transported into town colored? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. Now, you have 500 from outside the corporate limits. How many at the elementary schools of those 500, Web ster and Washington? A. I haven’t the actual factual data here. You didn’t ask me for that. I can’t give you that. Q. Can you tell me how many colored children ap peared at Webster and Wasihngton School, were regis tered September the 7th and given these transfer slips like in Plaintiffs’ Exhibits 2 and 3? A. According to my memory, on that date there were [47] 33 at Webster and 17 at Washington. Q. Thirty-three at Webster and how many at Wash ington? A. Seventeen, as I recall. Q. About an even fifty? A. That’s the number that I have in mind. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross 43a Q. Now, you heard Dr. Campbell’s report that you were 30' some less this year than last year? A. Well, I heard that report, yes. Q. Is that fairly accurate? A. Well, I could give it to you very accurately if you care to have it. Q. Tell me how many last year and how many this year to the three elementary schools? A. The report copied on the form used for that purpose, the enrollment at the Lincoln School in 1952-’53 was as follows: 12 children in grade one, 9 in grade two, 12 in grade three, 4 in grade ten, 9 in grade five, 12 in grade six; for a total of 64. Q. You mean 10 in grade four, not 4 in grade ten? A. I will repeat that, if you didn’t understand. Q. Just the fourth. A. Grade 4, 10 children. Q. All right. A. All right. Lincoln School, the at tendance for 1953-’54, total 70. 1954 as of the date that I have this [48] year, either 17 or 21, probably 17. Washington School enrollment, ’52-’53, 399 total. Wash ington School enrollment 1953-’54, 421. Washington School enrollment 1954-’55, 421. Q. That’s including the Negro children? A. That was including—I believe this is dated as of the date that we took the file enrollment; probably includes eight. Q. Eight. A. 1952-’53 registration at Webster, 423; 1953-’54 registration at Webster, 433; 1954-’55 registra tion at Webster, 431. I didn’t total those figures. Q. Yes. Now, that includes the colored that registered, all the 50— A. That does not include—this report does not include any except three colored children enrolled there at the time this report was taken. Q. Now, there is about 850, I would say in round numbers, at Washington and Webster, isn’t there? A. Well, I could get it for you exactly. I will get it for you. Washington building enrollment for—I will get the total for you. Paul Lyman. Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross 44a Q. Well, just tell me. I can add it up. A. Well, I will get it. You have asked for it. 421 and Webster 431. 852. [49] Q. 852. Now, you are going to bring around 350 into those schools from out in the country, aren’t you, the balance of this year? A. The enrollment that I gave you here includes the people from Hillsboro and outside. Q. Yes. Now, none of the people coming from outside the corporate limits are colored, I believe you said. Is that right? A. Well, I believe—you asked me a question if any were transported—• Q. Yes, transported. A. —and I don’t recall that they are to the elementary schools. Q. Now, you are accommodating 500 people from out in Highland County or outside the corporate limits, 500 white children, but you transferred 33 or 35 Negro chil dren that lived in town back to Lincoln; isn’t that true? A. Yes, on residential zoning; yes. Mr. Carter: On residential zoning. I believe that’s all. The Court: Any cross-examination? Mr. Hapner: Yes, your Honor. Redirect examination by Mr. Hapner: Q. Mr. Upp, the 525 students transported from outside [50] the city limits of Hillsboro, do they reside in the Hills boro City school district? A. They do. Q. Then the Hillsboro City school district includes territory other than that included within the corporation limits of Hillsboro? A. It does. Q. Are you acquainted with one Homer Kinney? A. Homer Kinner? What’s his occupation? Q. H e’s a car washer. A. Yes. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiff—Redirect 45a Q. Yes. And are you acquainted with his race? A. Yes. Q. And what is his race? A. Colored. Q. And can you tell me where he lives? A. Well, not exactly. I don’t know. Q. Well, can you tell me what school his children have chosen to attend? A. Lincoln. Q. And do you know whether they would have been assigned to one of the other schools? A. Yes. Q. And did they request to be assigned to Lincoln School? [51] A. Yes. Q. Do you know whether there are any colored families, particularly a family Felix Fields living on north East Street? A. Yes. Q. And can you tell me how close that is to the Lincoln School building? A. Well, in number of streets, you mean? Q. Well, approximately how many houses away? A. Well, i t ’s just one house away, as I understand. Q. And can you tell me where his children have been assigned to attend school? A. Felix Fields. I don’t recall that. The Court: Can you refresh his recollection? Q. Well, can you recall whether he lived south of Col lins Avenue? A. Yes. Q. And then, according to the zoning or assignment— A. Washington. Q. —he would have been assigned to Washington? A. Washington. The Court: Well, does he go to Washington? Do they go to Washington? Mr. Hapner: Yes, they do, your Honor. The Witness: Yes. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiff—Redirect 46a Q. Can you tell me at what time it is contemplated [52] the new Webster building will be completed! A. Well, I wish I could; but I hope by the beginning' of the school years of ’55 and ’56. Q. That is the contract calls for that? A. That’s right. Q. And can you tell me what will be done with the student body of Webster and Washington buildings at that time? A. They will be combined. Q. And where will they go? A. They will go to the Webster new building and the Webster old building. Q. And approximately how many students will that place in that— A. Approximately between 875 and 900. Q. And at that time what will Washington be? A. The Washington building will be rehabilitated, the interior torn down and rebuilt. Q. And when is it contemplated that this project will be done? A. Starting in June of next year. Q. And what is the projected completion date? A. I would say a year and a half. Q. And can you tell me what the resolution of the Board will require to be done with the Lincoln building following that? [53] A. Following the completion of the— Q. Of the Washington building. A. Well, it will be the abandoning of the building and the selling of the prop erty. Q. Now, are you acquainted generally with the location of Negro families in the City of Hillsboro? A. Oh, in general. Q. And can you tell me whether there are any Negro families living on Wellston Street? A. Yes. Q. And are there? A. Yes. Q. And where do their children attend school? A. Washington building. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Redirect 47a Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Recross Q. And can yoh tell me whether there are any Negro families at the north end of north West Street, Spring Lake Avenue? A. Yes. Q. And where are their children assigned to attend school? A. Webster building. Mr. Hapner: I think that’s all. Mr. Carter: Just two questions, please. Recross-examination by Mr. Carter: [54] Q. Doesn’t this zoning only apply to corporate Hillsboro? A. Yes, I believe it says so. Q. Nowq if Webster and Washington are so crowded, why don’t you assign some of those elementary school children, w'hite children, from outside the county, the city, to Lincoln? A. The spirit of the community in which I live would not indicate to me that to be a wise thing to do. I have started into this program of integration with a very clear conscience and a desire to accomplish it in a smooth, intelligent, sane manner; and I believe that the spirit of our community would not be happy about that. Q. Are you familiar with the law of Ohio with regard to— A. Yes, to some degree. Q. Now, have you actually passed a resolution to aban don Lincoln? A. Oh, no. Q. That’s just talk, isn’t it? A. Well, yes, it ’s talk. Q. Just talk; that’s all? A. But it will be done. Mr. Carter: That’s all. That’s all I have. The Witness : Thank you. Mr. Carter: Thank you. [55] (Witness escused.) Mr. Carter: Mr. Hapner. 48a The Court: Just a question. How many more witnesses will you have? Mr. Carter: That’s all we have, Mr. Hapner. James Dudley Hapner—For Plaintiffs—Direct J ames D udley H apneb, called as a witness on behalf of the plaintiffs, being first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows: Direct examination by Mr. Carter: Q. Will you state your name? A. James Dudley Hap ner. Q. And where do you live? A. In Hillsboro. Q. And are you a member of the Ohio Bar? A. I am. Q. How long have you lived in Hillsboro? A. Roughly, since 1931. Q. 1931. And do you represent the School Board? A. I do. Q. And the several defendants? A. I represent them in my official capacity as city solicitor. I don’t represent them individually. Q. Well, you represent the Board in your official capacity? [56] A. I do. Q. But not the individuals? A. No. We haven’t seen fit for them to acquire counsel. Q. Now, did you draw up this resolution that was passed on the 13th of September, to take effect on the 16th? A. I had a hand in it, yes. Q. And are you familiar with these streets? A. I am. Q. And is this a scaled map of Hillsboro? A. Well, 1 am not certain of the accuracy of the scale. It appears to be an approximation of it. 49a Q. You know where those streets are in general, don’t you? A. Yes, I do. All of them aren’t marked on this map however. Q. Now, will you take this Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 2, follow ing the streets there, and draw for us in red pencil the Lincoln zones? A. I prefer to use another color. Q:. You don’t like red? A. No. Q. I don’t blame you. What color would you like? A. (Taking crayon.) The Court: Step down to the table now. [57] Q. Draw the Lincoln zones in blue. A. (Drawing.) Q. There are two of them, aren’t there? A. Oh. Q. Would you mind making them a complete color so we will see— A. Well, the zones call for the sides of the streets. Q. Just certain sides of the streets? A. In certain cases only one side of the street is included, and in most cases the entire street. Now, there is one street—two streets which are not included on this map, the exact loca tion of one of which I can’t say for certain. I think it is approximately there (indicating). Q. Well, in the Lincoln zone how did you determine whether to use just one side of the street or both sides of the street? A. In the Lincoln zone both sides of all the streets. Q. In the Lincoln zone both sides of all the streets? A. Yes. But in dividing particularly the Washington and Webster the center of the street is the dividing line. Q. The center of the street? A. Uh-huh. Q. Now, take what color you desire and draw the Web ster zone. A. (Drawing.) [58] Q. Now, take another color and draw the Washing ton zone. A. Well, the line I have drawn shows the separa tion between the Webster and Washington zones. James Dudley Hapner—For Plaintiffs—Direct 50a Q. Well, can you— A. I mean with the exception of the blue, which is the Lincoln zone, on this side of the line is Washington and this side (indicating) is Webster. Q. Well, will you write on here in purple that the west side of the orange line is Webster and the east side or right side— James Dudley Hapner—For Plaintiffs—Direct The Court: Your counsel wants you over there. A. (Drawing.) (Plaintiffs’ counsel confer.) Q. Now, hold this, please. Be seated, please. Now, Lincoln there is in two sections, the northeast and southeast; isn’t that right? A. That appears to be correct. That is— Q- Now, will you show the Court Lincoln’s two streets —two sections? A. I have marked them in blue, your Honor, here and here (indicating). The Court: Yes. Q. And both sides of those streets; is that right? A. As I recall, that’s correct. [59] Q. And everything to the left of that orange line going straight down High Street is Webster; is that right? A. Well, everything to the left of the orange line. It doesn’t go straight down High Street. Q. Well, left of the orange line? A. That’s correct. Q. North to south. And everything right of it or east of it is Washington, with the exception of the two sections for Lincoln? A. Uh-huh. Q. How did you determine to make those two sections for Lincoln precisely where you have? A. I think that question calls for a disclosure of a confidential communi cation. 51a Q. Confidential! A. As attorney for the School Board, I as their attorney don’t feel it competent for me to dis close a conversation that led up to this zoning. Q. All right. Can you tell me if this wasn’t divided into two sections for Lincoln solely on the basis of race and color! A. No, I can’t say that it was. Q. What do you mean, you can’t say? A. For instance, there are two—there are certain areas or certain streets here on which there are predominantly [60] colored fami lies living—in fact, as far as I know, they may be entirely colored families—which were not included in the Lincoln zones. Q. What do you mean, predominantly colored families and might be fully? A. Well, I don’t know whether—what I mean is, to the best of my knowledge—or I don’t of my own knowledge know whether there are any white families living on those streets. Q. Well, do you know whether any colored are living- on those streets? A. I know there are colored families living on those streets. Q. Then wasn’t that the principal motive in drawing those lines the way you did? A. No, because these streets I am referring to were included in the Washington School zone. There are also other streets in which there is a mixture of colored and white people living included in the Webster School zone. Q. Yes. There are three colored at Webster and eight at Washington; isn’t that right? A. I don’t know the exact figures. Q. And those eleven live on a street right in between white people, don’t they? A. I am not acquainted with where they live. [61] Q. Well, who made that designation or permitted them to go to Washington and Webster? James Dudley Hapner—For Plaintiffs—Direct 52a The Court: Well, the school principal said that they lived in that place and that they were in the Washington and Webster districts and were received there. Q. All right. Now, do you see from your map that it ’s closer to Washington School for all that g*roup in the southeast designated for Lincoln than going clear up to Lincoln ? A. It would appear to be approximately two blocks closer. Q. Two blocks closer! A. (Nodding.) Q. Do any of the whites right next door to Lincoln or within two blocks go to Lincoln? A. I don’t know who lives in the area that was zoned for Lincoln in either of those areas. I know certain individuals—whether there are white families living in those areas, I don’t know. I believe there is at least one, but I can’t say. Whether they have children I don’t know. Q.̂ Then when you drew this up, this resolution, you just followed instructions of the six other parties; is that right? A. No. As I said before, that would call for a [62] disclosure of a confidential communication. However, I will say I drew a proposed resolution and then it was discussed and a final resolution adopted. Q. Mr. Hapner, have you ever told anyone outside your clients that this was definitely done for that purpose of perpetuating segregation? A. I don’t recall that I did. I may have said that it was done for the purpose of insuring attendance at the Lincoln School, which obviously was the purpose of the zoning. Q. To insure attendance of Negroes at Lincoln; isn’t that right? No white go there. A. I don’t know whether they do or not. I have never been in the building. Q. You have never been there? A. That’s correct. Q. But this was done to insure that Lincoln would keep going, wasn’t it? A. To insure that there would be suffi James Dudley Hapner—For Plaintiffs—Direct 53a cient relief of the congestion in the other two elementary buildings. Q. Are you through! A. Yes. Q. But— A. Go ahead. Q. Are you through? A. Yes. [63] Q. But only to relief as far as the Negroes were concerned to go to Lincoln. That was the underlying pur pose, wasn’t it! Not to relieve the general situation that white go there; isn’t that right? A. I am not certain what you want—what you are asking me. Q. Lincoln only has two classrooms? A. That’s cor rect. At least I understand that’s correct. Q. In operation. But no white students overcrowding Webster or Washington, even from way out in the country, went to Lincoln, did they? A. Well, as I said before, I don’t know of my own knowledge. Q. Oh, all right. You said it was to relieve some of the crowding, didn’t you? A. That was the purpose of the resolution. Q. But the relief initiated was only to put Negroes back in Lincoln instead of letting them stay in Webster and Washington after they were admitted; isn’t that true? A. Let me phrase it this way: The purpose of the relief was to alleviate the added congestion as much as possible caused by the action of September 7th. In other words, prior to this year this school was operated as a— if you want to call it segregated, you can—elementary [64] school. That is, Lincoln was attended, to the best of my knowledge, in the years immediately preceding this by only colored children. Following the decision of the United States Supreme Court last May and an unfortunate incident caused by a criminal incident that occurred on the morning of the 5th of July in wThieh a fire was set in the Lincoln building, there was a great deal of questioning about this. James Dudley Hapner—For Plaintiffs—Direct 54a The Court: Well now, will you amplify that? You say criminal. You mean the Lincoln School, which heretofore had been strictly a colored school— The Witness: Yes, sir. The Court: —was set on fire the 5th of July of this year? The Witness: Yes, your Honor. It was set on fire by an individual who is white, and to the best of my knowledge had no connection with the plain tiffs. But it did cause a considerable commotion in the community. The Court: Was there any prosecution? The Witness: He is under indictment for arson and burglary and was scheduled to go to trial this morning; but I understand it ’s been postponed for two weeks. The Court: And you want us to understand now that that fire was responsible for the zoning at this [65] time to insure that the Lincoln School would have attendance? The Witness: Well, indirectly, your Honor. I would say the fire was responsible in part at least for the interest and action of the plaintiffs and others in refusing to send their children to the Lincoln School; and as a result of that action upon the part of the plaintiffs and others this resolution was taken to insure attendance—that the Lincoln School would be used and the already congested other schools would not be further overburdened. Q. As the attorney for the School Board and Mr. Upp, did you ever advise him to send 40 or 50 white children to Lincoln to fill up the two extra rooms to eliminate the congestion? A. I did not see fit to advise Mr. Upp con cerning the execution of his administrative duties, except James Dudley Hapner—For Plaintiffs—Direct 55a as far as I advised him that in my opinion the superin tendent with the approval of the Board of Education had power under the statutes of Ohio to assign pupils to vari ous schools, elementary schools. I further advised him that to the best of my knowledge, even before the Supreme Court acted, the law of Ohio forbade the existence of segregated schools. But that-is not an issue in this proceeding since, as I understand, you [66] are bringing it under the Federal rights— Q. Yes. Oh, go ahead. A. —this this situation had apparently existed for sometime in contravention of the law of Ohio; and that concerning the interest involved therein steps should be taken to put it upon—to remove the illegality concerned, while at the same time not putting the School Board in an impossible situation, that segrega tion in the elementary schools would have to be abandoned, but at the same time, because of the overcrowded condi tion and the new building program— Q. You are not arguing your case now, are you? A. No. I am stating-— Q. You are still answering my question? A. To the best of my knowledge. You asked me whether or not 40 or 50 white children could be assigned—and that the situa tion called for the continued use of the Lincoln building; that the spirit of the community and history of what had happened in other communities close to Hillsboro in similar situations indicated it would be disastrous to attempt to assign children, white children, to what wras considered in the minds of the community to be a colored school. Mr. Carter: That’s all. Thank you. (Witness excused.) James Dudley Iiapner—For Plaintiffs—Direct 56a Colloquy Between Court and Counsel The Court: Is that plaintiffs’ case? Mr. Carter: We rest, sir, with the introduction [67] of the map and the two letters— The Court: Yes. Mr. Carter: —1, 2 and 3. (Thereupon, the documents heretofore marked Plain tiffs’ Exhibits Nos. 1, 2 and 3 for identification were offered and received in evidence and are made a part of this record.) The Court: Now, as I understand, the plaintiffs here have given testimony of adverse witnesses which would he the same as if they were called on their own behalf, is that right? Mr. Hapner: Well, your Honor, we didn’t have an opportunity to bring in all our case. We had one or per haps two witnesses we wanted to call. This testimony, I don’t think, would occupy a very long time. The Court: Well now, I think that there is going to be another day for you to present your case if that becomes necessary. Mr. Hapner: All right. The Court: But for the benefit of counsel for plaintiffs, it appears in view of this situation now confronting the Supreme Court that a decision at this time would be pre mature. Mrs. Motley: May it please the Court, I think that this case is different from the cases presently pending before the United States Supreme Court. In those cases the [68] Court decided the constitutionality of a state statute requiring racial segregation of public schools. The Court, as you know, held those state statutes unconstitutional. In those cases the plaintiffs sought admission to pre viously all white schools from which they were excluded. In the instant case these plaintiffs were enrolled in the schools. They attended for approximately a week. 57a Colloquy Between Court and Counsel In other words, the defendants had voluntarily desegre gated the schools, and now they seek to have these plain tiffs withdraw and go back to the segregated situation. Therefore, this case is not a case in which the plaintiffs seek admission to schools. They are in the school. They ask this Court to enjoin the defendants from requiring them to withdraw. Now, the United States Supreme Court has set down the cases before it for reargument this fall; and the Court pointed out that it did that for the reason that those cases have wide application; that is, there are seventeen south ern states and the District of Columbia where racial segre gation was mandatory. In those states racial segregation has been in existence since the Civil War— The Court: The same as here. Mrs. Motley: And the Court realized that if it handed down a situation, there probably would be some difficulty. Now, this is one school district with three schools. [69] The children are already admitted. And there is no great wide application with respect to a decision which may be handed down here. It applies to one school district. You don’t have a state statute to declare unconstitutional. It won’t upset the educational system of the state or the educational system of this local community. The Court: I am sorry; I can’t agree with you for this reason: The evidence here is clear this morning that the Lincoln School existed, as brought out by counsel, since the Civil War. It was named after Abe Lincoln. We have a situation which you say is not the same application. I think it is. I think that the Hillsboro City solicitor has established by his evidence a situation, as he says, that prevails, and prevails in other towns, where the Lincoln School was set on fire on the 4th or 5th of July by a character who was indicted and charged with arson and burglary; and an 58a Decision attempt by the School Board here to send other children, white children, into the colored school there would be disastrous. Now, this Court can’t step in and take the place of the Board of Education and the superintendent of schools. You will have to admit—I hope you will—that the super intendent of schools here in Hillsboro made a perfectly honest and truthful statement and has shown right straight [70] through by his administration that their intent is— and they are now building two new schools to meet this situation—and he says it is the policy to integrate the colored people with the white students just as soon as the school buildings are built; and that the Lincoln School, which is now the bone of contention, will be torn down. Now, just this week Chief Justice Warren said that they are allotting ten hours’ argument—you read that, didn’t you? Mrs. Motley: Yes, sir. The Court: He said that they have a most complex problem to work out; and they are setting the pace, and it is the policy of the lesser courts here to follow the Supreme Court’s pace. Now, until they establish a formula, we may make a decision here that would be directly contrary to their formula. He said that they have to give the boards of education all over the country a right to meet this very complex situation. So the decision of the Court here this morning is that this case will be continued until two weeks after the final entry goes on in the Supreme Court, to give the Board of Education of Hillsboro an opportunity to meet the require ments established by the Supreme Court. We have nothing else to do. So, as I say, to that [71] extent the suit here this morning is premature. The School Board of Hillsboro has a right, until the Supreme Court establishes a formula, to use their best judgment as to how it is going to be taken care of. 59a Certification So you may have an exception. Court, will be in recess. (Thereupon, at 12:52 o ’clock noon, the hearing in the above-styled action was continued.) [72] IK THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F ob the , S outhern D istrict of Ohio W estern Division Cincinnati, Ohio This is to certify that the foregoing transcript of pro ceedings in the matter of Civil Action No. 3440 ------------------------------o------------------------------ J oyce M arie Clem ons, an infant, by Gertrude Clem ons, her m other and next frien d , et al., Plaintiffs, vs. T he B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, Ohio , et al., Defendants. --------------------- o--------------- ------- on the 29th day of September, 1954, before the Honorable John H. Druffel, Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District, of Ohio, Western Division, is a true and correct transcript thereof. R obert I. Crawford, Official Court Reporter. 60a Order (Filed October 1, 1954) IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F ob the S outhern D istrict of O hio W estern D ivision Civil Action 3440 J oyce M arie Clem ons, an in fant, b y Gertrude Clem ons, her m other and next frien d , et al., Plaintiffs, vs. T he B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, O hio , a body corporate, et al., Defendants. — ------------------------- o ------------------------------ This cause came on for hearing on plaintiffs’ motion for a preliminary injunction and upon consideration thereof, and on consideration of the pleadings, testimony, and evidence, it is Ordered, adjudged, and decreed that further proceed ings on the motion for preliminary injunction be continued until two weeks after the United States Supreme Court decides upon the formulation of decrees in the School Segregation Cases, Brown et al. v. Board of Education of Topeka et al., 347 U. S. 483, presently pending before it. United States District Judge. 61a Answer (Filed October 22, 1954) IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F or th e S outhern D istrict of O hio W estern D ivision Civil Action No. 3440 J oyce M arie Clem ons, an in fant, by Gertrude C lemons, her m other and next friend , et al. Plaintiffs, v. T he B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, Ohio , a body corporate, et al. Defendants. --------------------- o--------------------- Now comes the defendants, The Board of Education, Paul L. Upp, Superintendent of Schools of Hillsboro, Ohio, Marvel K. Wilkin, Wilfred L. Faul, William L. Lukens and John Henry Brown, members of the Board of Education of Hillsboro, Ohio, and for answer to the complaint of the plaintiffs herein: 1. Defendants admit all allegations of fact contained in paragraphs one, through ten inclusive of the plaintiffs’ complaint. 2. Defendants say that the infant plaintiffs were regis tered in the Webster and Washington elementary schools 62a Answer and were temporarily assigned to classrooms in the said buildings; and that on the 14th day of September the infant plaintiffs were reassigned to the Lincoln elementary school. 3. Defendants deny all the rest and remainder of the allegations made in the plaintiffs ’ complaint. 4. Defendants further say that attendance in the ele mentary schools operated by the Board of Education of Hillsboro, Ohio, by children living within the corporate limits of the city of Hillsboro, Ohio, is determined by the place of residence of the pupils concerned and not by race, color, or national origin. 5. Defendants further say that plaintiffs are now and for sometime have been unlawfully withholding their chil dren from school in defiance of the laws and policy of the state of Ohio. Wherefore the defendants pray that the complaint of the plaintiffs may be dismissed, set aside and held for naught and the defendants herein be permitted to go hence without day. Attorney for Defendants, 127% North High Street, Hillsboro, Ohio. (Verified by defendant, October 14, 1954.) 63a Order Setting Aside Order of October 1, 1954 and Setting Date of Trial (Filed December 13,1954) in the ; UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F or t h e S outhern D istrict of Ohio W estern D ivision Civil Action No. 3440 ---------------------------- o---------------------------- J oyce M arie Clem ons, an infant, by G ertrude C lemons, her m other and next friend , et al. Plaintiffs, v. T h e B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, O hio, a body corporate, et al. Defendants. --------------------- o--------------------- It appearing to the court that an order was entered in this cause on October 1, 1954, continuing further proceed ings on the motion for preliminary injunction until two weeks after the United States Supreme Court decides upon the formulation of decree in the School Segregation Cases, Brown et al. v. Board of Education of Topeka, et al., 347 U. S. 483, presently pending before it. It is hereby ordered that said order be vacated and set aside, and that the above entitled cause be set for trial on December 29, 1954, at 10:00 a. m. and 64a Order Setting Aside Order of October 1, 1954 and Setting Date of Trial I t is further ordered that trial briefs be filed in the above cause not later than December 27, 1954. J ohn H. D rtjffel United States District Judge For the Southern District of Ohio Western Division a true copy of the original, Filed-Dec. 13, 1954 W m. R orinett , J r ., Clerk (signed) Charles Clbul Deputy Clerk, U. S. District Court, SDO Certified December 13, 1954 65a (Filed December 28, 1954) 1ST TH E UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F oe THEi S o u t h e r n D i s t r i c t o f O h i o W e s t e r n D i v i s io n Civil Action No. 3440 ---------------------- o---------------------- J oyce M arie Clemons, an in fant, by Gertrude C lemons, her m other and next frien d , et al. Plaintiffs, v. T h e B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, O hio , a body corporate, et al. Defendants. ------------- .------ o-------------------- It is hereby stipulated and agreed by and between the attorneys for the plaintiffs and defendants in this case that for the purposes of the trial of this action the fol lowing facts are not in dispute: 1. The infant plaintiffs in this action are Negro chil dren residing in the City of Hillsboro, Ohio and are eligible to enroll in and attend the elementary schools of that City which are under the jurisdiction and control of the defendants. 2. There are three elementary schools in the City of Hillsboro, comprising the Hillsboro City School District. Stipulation of Facts 6 6 a The names of these schools are Washington, Webster and Lincoln. 3. The Lincoln School has long been maintained as an elementary school for the exclusive attendance of Negro children. 4. For approximately fifteen years prior to September 7, 1954 no Negro pupil had attended either the Webster or Washington Schools. 5. On September 7, 1954 three of the infant plaintiffs and 29 other Negro pupils were registered in the Webster School. On the same date four of the infant plaintiffs and 4 other Negro pupils were registered in the Washington School. 6. The infant plaintiffs were assigned seats in regular classrooms in the schools in which they had registered on September 7, 1954, on September 8, 1954. Infant plaintiff Joyce Marie Clemons was assigned a seat in a sixth grade classroom in Webster School. Infant plaintiff Deborah K. Rollins was assigned a seat in a first grade classroom in Webster School. Infant plaintiff Myra Darline Cumberland was assigned a seat in a first grade classroom in the Webster School. Infant plaintiff Evelyn Marie Steward was assigned a seat in a fifth grade classroom in the Washington School. Infant plaintiff Virginia Ann Steward was assigned a seat in a fourth grade classroom in the Washington School. Infant plaintiff Carolyn Louise Steward was assigned a seat in a second grade classroom in Washington School. Infant plaintiff Dorothy Marie Clemons was assigned a seat in a second grade classroom in the Washington School. Stipulation of Facts 67a 7. Infant plaintiffs continued in attendance at the schools in which they had enrolled until September 17, 1954. 8. For several years prior to September 7, 1954, the Washington and Webster Schools were overcrowded. In view of this, plans for expanding both of these schools were adopted several years ago and are presently being executed. The Webster School is to be rebuilt in its en tirety and the Washington School is to have an addition. 9. The total elementary school enrollment at the open ing of school in September 1954 was 899, whereas at the opening of school in September 1953 the total elementary enrollment was 928. 10. The average number of pupils per room in the Washington School on September 8, 1954 when the four infant plaintiffs and other Negro children similarly situ ated were enrolled was 35.4. 11. The average number of pupils per room in the Webster School on September 8, 1954 when the three in fant plaintiffs and other Negro children similarly situated were enrolled was 38. 12. On September 8, 1954, seventeen Negro children were enrolled in the Lincoln School which has a total of four classrooms, only two of which are in use as regular classrooms. 13. There are two full-time Negro teachers assigned to the Lincoln School who teach all six elementary grades in two rooms. Stipulation of Facts 68a Stipulation of Facts 14. There are twelve regular elementary classrooms in Washington School and twelve in Webster School. One teacher is assigned to each room and teaches one grade in the room. 15. The Lincoln School Zone is divided into two parts— a northeast section which is adjacent to Lincoln and a southeast section which is approximately nine blocks south east of Lincoln. 16. Three of the infant plaintiffs live in the southeast section. In order to reach the Lincoln School these plain tiffs must pass by the Washington School. 17. A total of 593 white children living in the School District are transported daily from outside the City limits for the purpose of attending elementary school in Hills boro. None of these pupils is assigned to the Lincoln School. A total of 177 are assigned to Webster and a total of 166 are assigned to Washington. 18. No Negro children attending elementary school in Hillsboro are transported into the City. 19. The school zone lines apply only to children living within the City limits. 20. There is one high school in the City of Hillsboro which is attended by both Negro and white students. 21. The segregation of pupils in grades 7-8 was dis continued by the Board of Education of Hillsboro in 1951. 22. On August 9, 1954 the Board of Education adopted a resolution which reads as follows: 69a “ That the Hillsboro City Board of Education go on record supporting the integration program, for children of Lincoln School, of Supt. Upp on com pletion of Washington and Webster School Build- Stipulation of Facts ings. ’ ’ R ussell L. Carter, 949 Knott Building, Dayton 2, Ohio; J ames H. M cG hee , 1020 W. Fifth Street, Dayton 7, Ohio; Constance B aker M otley, 107 West 43rd Street, New York 36, New York; T hurgood M arshall , 107 West 43rd Street, New York 36, New York; Attorneys for Plaintiffs. J ames D . H apner , Attorney for Defendants. 70a Testimony [1 ] IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F ob t h e S outhern D istrict of O hio W estern D ivision Civil Action No. 3440 --------------------------------------------------- o — --------------------------- --— — J oyce M arie Clem ons, an in fant, by G ertrude C lem ons, her m other and next frien d , et al. Plaintiffs, v. T he B oard oe E ducation of H illsbfrf, Ohio , et al., Defendants. --------------------- o--------------------- B e it remembered that on Wednesday, December 29, 1954, at 10:10 o ’clock, a. m., the above-styled action came on for further hearing before the Honorable John H. Druffel, Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, Western Division. [2] Appearances: For the Plaintiffs: Constance B aker M otley, Esq., R ussell L. Carter, Esq., J ames II. M cG hee , Esq. and Cecil R. M cL ain , Esq. 71a For the Defendant, The Board of Education, of Hills boro and its named officials: J ames D. H apner , Esq. For the named individual Defendants: No appearance. Colloquy Between Court and Counsel [3] The Court: Do we have any additions in counsel or not, for the record? Mr. Hapner: No, your Honor. The Court: This stipulation of facts, was this just filed yesterday? Mrs. Motley: Yes, it was, sir. The Court: All right. Now, what is next on the line? Mrs. Motley: Well, your Honor, I think that in view of the stipulation of facts which has been filed that the amount of testimony which we may be required to adduce here today has been substantially reduced. You will notice from the stipulation of facts that the defendants admit the allegations in our complaint concern ing the plaintiffs and their status. They admit that the Lincoln School has long been maintained as a segregated elementary school, that for approximately fifteen years prior to September 7th, 1954 no Negro children had attended either Webster or Washington. They admit that the infant plaintiffs were registered in either Washington or Webster on September 7th of this year, that each of the infant plaintiffs was assigned a seat in a classroom in either Washington or Webster. They admit also the fact that the total school enrollment, ele mentary school [4] enrollment, is less this year than last year. The figures are in stipulation 9. They admit that the average number of pupils per room in Washington School, when the four infant plaintiffs and 72a other Negro children similarly situated were enrolled, was 35.4. They admit that the average number of pupils in the Webster School on September 8th, when the three infant plaintiffs and other Negro children similarly situ ated were enrolled, was 38. They admit that on September 8th there were seventeen Negro children enrolled in Lincoln School, and that that school has a total of four classrooms, only two of which are in use as regular classrooms. They admit that there are two full-time Negro teachers assigned to the Lincoln School who teach all six elementary grades in two rooms; that there are twelve regular classrooms in Webster and twelve regular classrooms in Washington, one teacher assigned to teach one class in each room. They admit further that the Lincoln School zone, which was set up pursuant to the Board’s resolution on Septem ber 13th, is divided into two parts, one in the northeast section of the city and one in the southeast section; that three of the infant plaintiffs live in this southeast part of the Lincoln zone, and that in order to reach the Lincoln School they have to pass by the Washington School. [5] They admit further that some 593 white students living in the school district are transported daily into the city limits for the purpose of attending elementary school in Hillsboro, that none of these students is assigned to the Lincoln School; a total of 177 of that number being assigned to Webster and a total of 166 being assigned to Washing ton. They admit that no Negro children are transported into the city, that the school zone lines apply only within the city limits. And it is stipulated that the high school, which is not involved in this controversy, is attended by both Negroes and whites, that there is integration in grades seven through eight; and that on August the 9th the Board adopted a resolution which said in effect that it supported Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 73a Colloquy Between Court and Counsel a proposal by the Superintendent of Schools to integrate Washington and Webster, integrate the Negro students attending Lincoln into Washington and Webster, when those school buildings are completed. Now, in view of that stipulation, it appears that there is only one issue in controversy, and that is the purpose and effect of the Board’s resolution of September 13th, 1954. Now, it is the plaintiffs’ contention that the purpose and effect of that resolution was to require these infant plaintiffs and other Negro children similarly situated to attend a racially segregated elementary school in Hills boro, that is the Lincoln School, that the resolution had that [6] purpose and had that effect. Now, in order to prove that contention today we will call the Superintendent of Schools, the Chairman of the Board and two other witnesses. One is a Negro teacher who teaches in the Lincoln School. The other witness we will call is Dr. Campbell, who you may recall made a study of the situation in Hillsboro. Now, we believe that the evidence which we will adduce today will show that the purpose of this resolution was to segregate the infant plaintiffs into Lincoln in order to continue the pattern of segregation which they admit has existed for a long period of years in the Lincoln School. We will also prove that the resolution has that effect. We will prove that the school zones established by that resolution were established on the basis of race and race alone, and not on the basis of residence, as contended by the defendants. The Court: Do you want to make a statement at this time ? Mr. Hapner: No, your Honor. I will waive a pre liminary statement. The Court: All right. Call your witness then. We are not going to cover the same ground as we did before? I mean you are simply going to supplement what you had ? 74a Mrs. Motley: Yes. It is my understanding, and I [7] would like your Honor’s opinion on this, that the testi mony which we adduced on the preliminary hearing is in the record and we will certainly—we will at this point attempt to merely further bring out evidence in substantia tion of the one issue that we believe is involved today. The Court: All right. First witness. Mrs. Motley: Mr. Wilkin, do you want to take the stand? The Court: You were previously sworn, weren’t you, Mr. Wilkin? Mr. Wilkin: That’s right. The Court: All right. Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct M arvel K. W il k in recalled as a w itness on behalf o f the p la in tiffs , hav ing been p rev iou sly sw orn, was exam ined and testified as fo llo w s : Direct examination by Mrs. M otley: Q. Now, Mr. Wilkin, you were asked to bring with you a map of the Hillsboro School District showing the location of all of the streets set forth in the resolution of the Board of Education of Hillsboro of September 13th, 1954. Now, do you have that map? A. Well, I have the nearest thing that I could get, which is a map of Hillsboro, but there was never no map set up about the school district at all. We have never had any map [8] like that, and so I couldn’t bring one like that, because I am—1 couldn’t draw it up because we just didn’t have any. But I do have a map here of the City of Hillsboro right here, showing all the), streets. 75a Q. Now, you have located on that map all the streets set forth in your resolution; is that right? Mr. Hapner: Your Honor, I think an exhibit to this effect was introduced in the prior hearing. Mrs. Motley: What is it? Mr. Hapner: An exhibit, which was this same map or a copy of it, with all the streets marked, was introduced by the plaintiffs on the earlier hear ing. The Court: As I remember it, you did intro duce it through the Superintendent of Schools. Mrs. Motley: Yes, your Honor, but you will recall that that map did not contain all of the streets in the Board’s resolution. The map was a map of the City of Hillsboro, but all of the streets were not on that map, and therefore we couldn’t locate all of the streets in the Board’s resolution. And we have asked him to bring a map showing precisely the loca tion of all these streets set forth in the Board’s resolution. The Court: Well, do you have those streets ? Are they on that map? Do you want to look at it? The Witness: This is the City of Hillsboro, 1951 [9] edition, which is as complete as any map I could get of Hillsboro. The Court: Do you want to mark it? Mr. Motley: Yes. I would like to have it marked for identification. (Thereupon, a map of Hillsboro, Ohio, revised July 1951, produced by the witness Wilkin, was marked Plaintiffs’ Exhibit No. 4 for identification.) Q. Now, you were asked to indicate on this map the Lincoln School zone, the Webster School zone and the Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 76a Washington School zone. Now, is that indicated on this map? A. No, but we don’t have any map that is indicated on, and I am not a draftsman, or any ways close to it ; and I probably couldn’t have done it right if I had tried to do it. So I just didn’t go ahead and do it because we need somebody talented to make a map like that to be right; and we just don’t have anything like that, Q. Now, I want to show you a map which we have drawn and ask you if that is a map of the City of Hillsboro similar to the one which you have given us? A. That is. That is a map of Hillsboro. Mrs. Motley: Would you mark that number 5, please ? (Thereupon a map of the City of Hillsboro, Ohio, produced by Mrs. Motley, was marked Plaintiffs’ Exhibit No. 5 for identification.) [10] Mrs. Motley: Your Honor, I would like to get the first exhibit which was Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 1 at the preliminary hearing, which was the map drawn by Mr. Hapner. The Court: Well, here it is. You take the whole record and then work it out. (Handing). Mrs. Motley: Thank you. Q. I would like to show you this map which ŵ e intro duced at the previous hearing, Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 1. You may recall that Mr. Hapner drew the school zone lines on this map. Do you recall that? A. Yeah. Yes, I do. Q. Do you recall that he indicated that this blue line here was the Lincoln School zone? A. That was part of it. Q. And that the other part is over here in blue? A. That’s right. Q. And that this orange line down the middle is the dividing line between the Washington School and the Web Marvel K. Within— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 77a ster school? A. That is right. But we didn’t get this off of any old map, for the simple reason that Hillsboro never had—the school Board never had any notion for rezoning law in Hillsboro before, for the simple reason that the children usually went where they was assigned to without any'—without [11] any laws. Q. Pardon me just a minute. A. To this day we was— We took emergency measures to get the children in the schools that we had room for until we get our new build ings; then we will have to do it all over again. And we didn’t feel like it was likely that would be not over two years, that we wouldn’t go to too much trouble of making- up a lot of maps and a lot of detail work until we get the new buildings. Then it would probably be set that way for the next fifty years; then we could do something like that. Q. Now, you said that prior to the establishment of these lines you had no school zone lines in Hillsboro; is that right! A. We did not, It was just adopted North and High Street, South and North Street, that the people took for granted that that was the line; but there was a lot of children crossing over backwards and forwards. And when we made this adoption we had to move a lot of children. There was 56 white children that had been moving back and forward that had to be stopped too; they had to go to the right school. Q. Now, let me understand you. You say that prior to September 7th of this year the citizens of the community took it for granted that High Street was the dividing line between Washington and Webster; is that right? Is that what you are saying? [12] A. That’s more or less right, yes. Q. Now, I believe that you also said that prior to Sep tember 7th of this year, before these lines were adopted, Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 78a • students were assigned either to Washington or Webster or Lincoln; is that right? A. I don’t know whether they were assigned or not. They was took into the school; and I couldn’t answer that for sure. The superintendent could. But I don’t think they was assigned to the teacher. They was brought into the schools until we could reorganize and work out where they would go. And we didn’t assign the students to high school the first day; we had to move close to 150 after the first week. We only had two days’ school the first week; the next week we shuffled. Just like the seventh grade, we had about 70 more than we figured we had in the seventh grade. So we had to shuffle the whole high school to take care of the extra children that come in the seventh grade. That wasn’t any adoption of any kind in rezoning, but it still has to be done in the whole school system. Q. Well, let’s confine it now to the three elementary schools prior to September 7th of this year. When an ele mentary school child wanted to go to school, on what basis did he determine the school to which he would go ? Did the superintendent or the Board or principal or somebody assign the student to a school? [13] A. The superintendent assigned them. And there was several children that would start at one school and have to be assigned to another one. In fact, I got several calls to the effect of giving me the dickens, “ My kid last year went to this school or that school and he can’t go this year.” But still he was the boss and it went on record that way, and that’s the way we done it. Q. Now, let’s understand you. The Superintendent of Schools prior to September 7th would assign students to the three elementary schools in Hillsboro? A. And to their teachers; that is right. The Court: Could we do this? If the superin tendent was doing all that, wouldn’t we save time if you would examine him rather than this witness? Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 79a Mrs. Motley: Yes. I was trying to get it, whether the superintendent did it or who did it, your Honor. Q. Now, I want to show you the map drawn by Mr. Hapner and the map which we have drawn, indicating the three school zones, and ask you whether the zones which we have indicated are substantially the same as those indi cated by Mr. Hapner. This is the Lincoln School zone up here (indicating)? A. That’s right. Q. The Lincoln School zone over here (indicating) ? A. That’s right. Q. The Washington School zone in blue? [14] A. Yeah. Q. And the Webster School zone in orange? A. That’s right. Q. Now, looking at that map which shows the three school zones, Lincoln School zone is divided into two parts, is it not? A. That’s right. Q. Would you hold that, please? Now, these school zones were established by the resolution of the Board which was adopted on September 13th, 1954; is that right? A. That’s right. Q. Now, that was after these infant plaintiffs were reg istered either in Washington or Webster School; is that right? A. I don’t know whether you would call them regis tered or not. They reported to that school. But if you notice here, the ones over here in this red line cross the whole zone into another zone before going over to the Webster School. Q. We will get to that. Just answer this question. Was the Board’s resolution of September 13th establishing these school zone lines adopted after the infant plaintiffs were registered either in Webster or Washington? A. What do you mean by “ registered,” whether they were assigned to the teachers or assigned there for the school year or just reported there or not? What do you mean by that? Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 80a [15] Q. Well, I mean that they went to those schools on the opening of school on September 7th, indicated what their name was, what their address was— A. That’s right. Q. —how old they were, what grade they were in, and were assigned to a seat in the classroom for which they were eligible. That’s what I mean by “ registered” . A. Well, I would say they were registered as much as the 56 other white pupils were transferred at the same time. Q. Did you read the stipulation of facts which have been agreed to here! Do you know that it is stipulated that they were registered on the 7th and assigned seats on the 8th of September? A. Well, I don’t know whether they could have been assigned for the regular year, be cause we had two and three to a seat in a lot of the rooms to work out. a plan to get the crowded condition out of the Webster building. Mr. McGee: Judge, could we ask a question, for this man to give answers that are responsive to the questions? I mean he is being— The Court: I thought he was doing all right. He gives us an answer and then explains. Mr. McGee: But he goes all around— The Witness: Here is what I mean— Mr. McGee: —and doesn’t answer the question. [16] The Witness: —In the high school we had to move 150 students to make room for 70 other children and— Q. May I ask you a question? A. — 1 said they wasn’t registered with the regular teacher until we got through moving them, and then they would be registered. Q. Now, I want to ask you a question, sir. Do you know that it is stipulated by you and by us that the infant plain tiffs were registered either in Webster or Washington on Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled— For Plaintiffs—Direct 81a September 7th and assigned seats in regular classrooms on September 8th? Do you know that that’s an agreed fact in this case? A. Well, I suppose it is. Q. Do you know, Yes or No! A. Yes, I know what it was brought about, what the charges was. Q. Do you know that that is a fact which is stipulated in this case? A. Well, it is not completely a fact because we didn’t take in all the colored people down in Hillsboro. This is a street down here, Wellston, which if we had just been picking out the colored—but we did not do that. Mr. Hapner: I think I can spare the defendant here a little embarrassment. He hasn’t seen the stipulation of facts. However, it is so stipulated. [17] Q. Now, going on, looking at that map which you have, which is substantially the same as the one Mr. Hapner drew, and I am referring to that, would you tell us the basis upon which those lines were established by the Board? A. Yes. Why we drawed up this this way was to try to keep the children in the same school they was the year before and try to get along with the crowded conditions until we could get our new building built, and then we was going to do away with our whole set-up and start over. The way it is turning out, we are going to have two more classrooms at Webster than we had before and four more at "Washington; and we will have to chang'e all our students to beet fit them when we get our new buildings. And we was just aiming to keep the children in the regular class rooms as much as possible until we could get our new buildings built, and then we would change them. Q. Now, do you know that it is stipulated that the Lincoln School— Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 82a The Court: The solicitor said he hasn’t seen the stipulation. So I think we are maybe wasting time on that. Mrs. Motley: I see, all right. Thank you, your Honor. Q. Would you explain how it is that the Lincoln School is in the Washington School zone rather than in the Lincoln [18] School zone! Do you see the Lincoln School on that map, indicated on that map as number 7? A. Yes, I do. Q. Now, will you explain to us how it happens that the Lincoln School is in the Washington School zone and not in the Lincoln School zone! A. Well, there is several ways to look at that. There is several children like their teachers they had there years before; they liked their playmates down there, and some of them would more definitely rather go to school down there at Lincoln than to be shoved in with the other schools, in a new school, in a new classroom, new teachers, and the little kids would definitely get run over in school. And some of them still going down to Lincoln wants to go down there. They asked to go down there. They report that they wanted to go. And we felt that they would be better off down there than mixed up in the other schools and run over, and like they probably will be some. The Court: What do you mean, “ run over” ? The Witness: Well, if you have thirty-two white children, two or three colored children, there will be some children that will make fun of them and stuff, which they do. And we have it in the white children, the poor white children come to school all dirty or something and they are not very popular. The kids won’t play with them. [19] They make them feel not at home. They go home crying about it. Marvel K. Wilkin—Recalled— For Plaintiffs— Direct 83a The Court: I understand now what you mean by ‘ run over” . The Witness: There definitely is no danger of the colored children running over white children, with two to the room and 32 white children. It would be the other way around if it was any way. And we just aimed to do that because the whole school is all full, until we get our new buildings. Then we are going to have to do that, put them in the new build ing. Q. Now, the question which I asked you was: Why is the Lincoln School in the Washington School zone? And your answer to that is what? A. I wouldn’t know about that. I t ’s built there, right close to the Washington building; and why they built it there, I don’t know. But it definitely could not take in all the territory to the north of that building and hold them. It just couldn’t do that. That’s for sure. Q. Now, would you explain why Collins Avenue, for example—do you see Collins Avenue on the map? A. That’s right. Q. That is adjacent to Lincoln building. Now, could you explain why that is not in the Lincoln School zone? A. I think Collins Avenue was in the zone. I wouldn’t [20] say for sure. Q. Is it in the zone on that map? A. Yeah. Q. It is in the Washington School zone, isn’t it, Collins Avenue? A. The most of it is, but the building sets on Collins Avenue. That’s the dividing line there. Q. The Lincoln School building is on Collins Avenue? A. I t ’s on Collins Avenue. Q. And Collins Avenue is in the Washington School zone, that part of Collins Avenue which is adjacent to the Lincoln building? A. Yeah. Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 84a Q. Now, do yon see the block between Collins Avenue and Willow Street— A. That’s right. Q. —on East Street—A. That’s right. Q. —which is adjacent to the Lincoln building! A. That’s right. Q. Will you explain why that block, which is adjacent to the Lincoln building, is not in the Lincoln School zone! A. Well, I don’t know why. But just the same, there is colored children going to school from that block that go to Lincoln, but they are put in Washington zone and they go to [21] school there—or are supposed to go to school there, and— Q. But that block is not in the Lincoln School zone; is that right! It ie in the Washington School zone! A. That’s right. Q. And then you have another block opposite that block, that’s North High Street between Willow and Collins Ave- une; is that right! A. That’s right. Q. And that block is not in the Lincoln School zone! A. That’s right. Q. Is there a reason for that! A. Well, they go to Washington building there, which is less than two blocks away. Q. But it is less than a block away from Lincoln, isn’t it! A. The children are over here another block, just a block from Washington, but they walk four blocks to the Webster. Q. But that block is less than one block from Lincoln, isn’t it! A. That’s right. Q. Now, will you explain how it is that the Lincoln School zone is divided into two parts; a northeast section there which is near Lincoln, and then that southeast section which is at least nine blocks southeast of that school! [22] A. Well, it ’s where the children have been going to school and they seemed to be satisfied there; at least we thought Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 85a they was last year. And we got our new buildings under construction, so we aimed to put the kids back as near as we could in the buildings until we got the new buildings. And we recognized the crowded condition in our Hills boro schools, in our elementary schools in the years before. We run bond issues for five years, and we got one passed last year. And then we are going to do away with that until we got the bonds passed, and we decided to hold the kids to the schools where they had been going until we got our new buildings. Just to show you what we run, we had close to 40 kids cross one street because the building would be closer there. The parents say “ Get in the new building quicker” , so they crossed over this year without anybody telling them to do anything. And we had to do something to get the kids back where they belonged at. It was the white the same as the colored. Q. Now, I want to understand your answer to my ques tion. My question was: Why is it that the Lincoln School is divided into two parts! And what is your answer to that question? A. Well, we said we tried to keep the children in the same school they had went to the year before until we got our new buildings built. [23] The Court: No. She wants to know why the Lincoln district was divided into two parts. The Witness: Well, in the first place, these other children down here goes to the Washington, and that group out there is selected to go to the Web ster, which they walk through one section plumb into another section. And we had to move children away from the Webster building. We had 100, 150, too many over there, so we took the group—we didn’t allow no other children to cross South High and go to Webster, but we wouldn’t let those children cross and go right over. That would be giving them spe cial privileges, which we couldn’t allow that either. Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 86a Q. Now, that second part of the Lincoln zone which is in the southeast, now that part is nearer to the Washington School than it is to the Lincoln School; isn’t that right? A. It is. Q. Now, why didn’t you assign those children to Wash ington so they wouldn’t have to pass that school to go to Lincoln ? Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct The Court: Mrs. Motley, as I understand it, the superintendent did the assignment. Now, wouldn’t it be better to ask the questions of him? Then you will get it in the record that way. Mrs. Motley: Well, I am sorry, your Honor; I think [24] what I was trying to establish was the basis upon which the Board determined that the children here in the southeast section should be in the Lincoln School zone rather than in the Wash ington School zone. I am trying to— The Court: I know. Mrs. Motley: —arrive at the basis upon which these determinations were made. The Witness: But I answered that. I said that we were trying to keep the children in the same schools which they had been going to the year before and the year before, until we get our new building. And that would be the answer to it, wouldn’t it? Mr. McGee: Sir, could we just say that the reso lution was passed by the school Board and not by the superintendent, and he couldn’t tell why they passed it. The Court: We are away from the resolution now, as I understand it. The last question was why Lincoln was in two parts. Mrs. Motley: That is a result of the Board’s resolution, setting certain streets in the Lincoln 87a School zone. You see, the Board’s resolution says that street A, B, C and D and so forth are in the Lincoln School zone, as a result of which you get Lincoln in two parts. That’s the Board’s action, and this man is Chairman of the Board; and we are asking him the basis upon which [25] those streets were assigned to the Lincoln School. The Court: As far as I understand it now, his answrer is simply this, that they tried to keep the children in the same school they were the year pre viously— Mrs. Motley: Yes. The Court: —and that some of them preferred that. Is that your answer ? The Witness: Yes, and they are going down there. Q. Now, you say that the parents preferred that or the children wanted that? A. Some of them did. They are still going down there. Q. How many of those children are in that group who wanted to go to Lincoln? A. Well, there is 22. And defi nitely there is more children that is not down there because —wrell, I wouldn’t say why, but it is. Q. Why aren’t they down there? Mr. Hapner: Objection, your Honor. The Court: Well, he can answer if he knows. A. Well, because they want to go down there, the children do. And there was several children wanted to go down there that didn’t get to go down there the first day of school. They went to the Webster building, crying, come up to the office, scared to death, didn’t want to go in there. We [26] felt sorry for some of them, and the parents of some of them just kind of pushed them in there. Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 88a Q. Pushed them in where! A. At the Webster building. Q. Their parents pushed them in! A. That’s right. The neighbors seen them go. The kids was crying because they had to go there. Q. Now, which one was that? A. I just wouldn’t say offhand, but the neighbors seen that, some of them, and that did go on. Q. But you don’t know that of your own knowledge, do you? You didn’t see that, did you? A. No. But I heard it from the neighbors, said it; and I have no doubt not to believe it. Q. Now, you were asked to bring with you a list con taining the names and addresses and the raciality of all students who were assigned to the Lincoln School as a result of the Board’s resolution of September 13th. Do you have that list? A. I have a list of the students at the Lincoln building here. There are 22 (handing). They are by the grades and teacher there. Q. I will take that map. A. All right (handing). Q. Now, you say these are the children presently [27] attending the Lincoln School? A. That’s correct, I think. Of course we don’t keep no record of the colored children, the white children separate. The superintendent in high school, he made up a list of the colored children there, but he had to make it up on his own. We don’t keep a record like that. We keep all the students in alphabetical order. Q. Now, what we asked you to bring was a list of those children assigned to the Lincoln School, not those presently attending, those assigned there pursuant to the Board’s resolution of September 13th. A. Well, I just didn’t have that. Mr. Upp might have that with him, but I wouldn’t say for sure. Q. Do you have on this list the names of the infant plaintiffs in this case? Are they among this 22? A. I Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct 89a don’t, know. I am not sure about that. I got that list at the Lincoln building, the children going there, and I didn’t know where to get a hold of the list of the people assigned because there was so many of them. In fact, there was 56 white children altogether, and they cross the line and—• Q. Where were they assigned, the 56 white children? A. To two different schools, the Webster and Washington. Q. Were any of those children assigned to Lincoln, any of the 56 whites? A. Not to my knowledge they was, but they didn’t need [28] their names too bad. They took their geographical order, and when they was supposed to go to one they went there, and that’s where they went. Q. Now, how did you—I will withdraw that. Now, do you indicate on this list the raeiality of these students? A. Those are colored student there. Q. Are there any white students in Lincoln School? A. Not to my knowledge, no. Q. Were any white children assigned to the Lincoln School as a result of your resolution? A. Not that I know of. Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs-—Cross Mrs. Motley: I think that’s all. The Court: Wait just a minute. Do you have any questions? Mr. Hapner: Yes, your Honor. Cross-examination by Mr. Hapner: Q. Mr. Wilkin, this resolution of the Board of Septem ber the 13th, does that mention Negro or white or colored or Caucasian or any similar terms in that resolution? A. It does not. Q. And do you have a copy of that resolution with you? A. I do. Q. Will you read it, please? 90a [29] Mr. Hapner: Do you want to see it, your Honor ? The Court: I would like to see it, (Mr. Hapner hands document to Court.) The Court: Do you have a copy of this? Mrs. Motley: Yes, I believe we do. The Court: Why don’t you just introduce it, have it marked for identification and then— Mr. Hapner: All right, your Honor. Mark this for identification as Defendants’ Exhibit A. (Thereupon a paper headed, “ Resolution for the Districting of Elementary Schools,” signed by Wil fred L. Faul, Clerk, Hillsboro City Board of Educa tion, was marked Defendants’ Exhibit A for iden tification.) Q. Mr. Wilkin, can you testify on the basis of this zon ing where the majority of students living in these zones attended school last year? Mr. McGee: Your Honor, I think that’s an un fair question because the fact as to where they attended school last year is not controlling as to whether or not this resolution violates the Consti tution. The Court: All right. You may have an excep tion. Answer the question. Q. In other words, the majority of students in the Webster zone, where did they attend school last year? A. To the Webster School. [30] Q'. And in the Washington zone? A. To the Wash ington. Q. And the Lincoln zone? A. To the Lincoln. Q. And are you somewhat familiar with the City of Hillsboro? A. Yes, I am. Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Cross 91a Q. And can you testify as to the majority of pupils who attended the Lincoln School last year, whether they lived in these two zones or not? A. They did, and there was several more streets that went to Lincoln, but we felt that if—We wanted to cut down the number down there to help them out so the teachers could do a better job teaching, and we brought two or three streets or more into the Washington and Webster that we didn’t have, that we didn’t come in there the year before. Mr. McGee: What does he mean by “ them” ? He want to help “ them” out. Who does he mean? The Witness: The Lincoln teachers. The Court: Could I ask a question? Mr. Hapner: Yes, your Honor. The Court: Ho you have colored students attend ing Webster School now this year ? The Witness: We have four, yes, your Honor. The Court: Do you have any attending the Washington [31] School? The Witness: We have eight. The Court: Eight attend the Washington School? The Witness: (Nodding.) The Court: Now, last year did they go to Lin coln? The Witness: They all went to Lincoln. The Court: But this year— The Witness: They was zoned into these two schools, which would help relieve the crowded con dition at Lincoln. The Court: Eight in Washington and four in Webster? The Witness: That’s right. The Court: And they didn’t go to those schools last year? Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Cross 92a The Witness: They did not. The Court: But they did this year ? The Witness: They did this year. The Court: They were zoned into those schools? The Witness: They was. The Court: All right. Go ahead. Mr. Hapner: Do you have that list of 22 stu dents? Mrs. Motley: Yes (handing). Q. This is a list of the students in Lincoln School at the present time? A. That’s right. [32] Q. Now, are any of these to your knowledge, should they belong in one of the other schools? A. Yes. There is some in there that should belong to the other school, but they got permission from Mr. Upp, the Superintendent, to go down there because they wanted to go. Q. Would you name one of them? A. Rosemary Kin ney and there is Perry Allen Harewood. Q. How about this one (indicating)? A. Here is one, Dianne Cole, from R. F. D. 1, which is outside the city limits. They are going down there. The Court: Now, they are going there by their own choice? The Witness: They are going there by their own choice, these people is. That’s in the other zone. And Betty Lou Wright, she is in that zone. The Court: Would Mr. Upp know more about that ? Mr. Hapner: He probably would. The Court: Well, let’s do that. He is the one that would know. It would save time. Mr. Hapner: I believe that’s all I have to ask. Mrs. Motley: Pardon me, I would like to ask you another question. Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Cross 93a Marvel K. Wilkin—Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Redirect Redirect examination by Mrs. Motley: Q. In response to a question which the Court asked you [33] a moment ago I believe, you said that there were Negro children presently assigned to Washington and Web ster; is that right? A. That’s right. Q. Those Negro children I believe you said attended Lincoln last year? A. Yes, they did. Q. You also said that they were assigned to Washing ton and Webster in order to relieve the overcrowding in Lincoln? A. We thought it would help out some down there, and— Q. And how many children do you have in Lincoln? A. There is supposed to be 50 some down there, but there is only 22 been taking in school. Q. How many classrooms do you have in Lincoln! A. We have two that we use for several years, and we use the upper rooms for art and music and different things like that. Q. Now, you also testified that there are certain Negro children attending Lincoln by their own choice; is that right? A. That’s right. Q. Now, how is it that the plaintiffs, who chose to go to Washington and Webster, do not have that choice? The Court: Do you understand the question? The Witness: I don’t know. (Laughter.) [34] The Court: We will clear the courtroom if there is any suggestion of that. The question is in volved, and I just wanted to know if he under stood it. A. Well, there is—you asked me why they went to Lincoln? Q. No. You said that there are certain Negro children in Lincoln who chose to go there? They asked to go there; 94a is that right? A. They reported there the first day of school and they wanted to go there. Q. That was their choice? A. Yeah. And Mr. Upp— they was going there when he rezoned them and had to pull them away from there to send them to the other school. Q. Send them to what other school? A. To the Web ster and Washington. When we rezoned it, we took some out of Lincoln that was already going there, if I am not mistaken. Q. Well, who are they? A. I just can’t say right off, but the zoning act did affect some of them that was going to school down there. The Court: I think for the record, we will make a better record if you will ask these questions of the superintendent who did the assigning. Mrs. Motley: All right, your Honor. [35] Mr. McGee: Your Honor, I should just like to ask this question, to have him answer the question that she put to him about the choice. I think that’s very important. The Court: About the what? Mr. McGee: About the choice. The white chil dren had a choice; I mean the colored children had a choice. Then why didn’t these children who washed to attend Washington and Webster School have a choice ? The Court: As I understand it, the ones that wanted to go there, they were zoned into the Lin coln, and some of those that were not in the Lincoln zone that were eligible to go under the plan, they were eligible to go to Washington or Webster, but of their own choice they went to Lincoln. Is that right ? Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Redirect 95a The Witness: That’s right. Mr. McGee: That’s correct. The Court: All right. Mr. McGee: Now, what about the students that are here in this suit who requested to attend either Webster or Washington? Why couldn’t they attend Webster and Washington? That’s the question. The Court: Well, ask him that question. Mr. McGee: That’s the question she asked. The Court: Now, wait. It isn’t the question she [36] asked. Now, ask that question and see if he can answer. Q. Can you answer that question, sir? A. Who is it was in the suit? Curtiss and the girl on East Walnut or where was it she lived? The Court: There are five plaintiffs here. Q. And eight children involved. There are five mothers and their eight children, and their names are— The Court: Clemons, Rollins, Cumberland, Stew* ard and Clemons. Q. Here they are. Gertrude Clemons’ children, Mrs. Roxie Clemons’ children, Mrs. Norma Rollins’ children, Mrs. Elsie Steward’s children and Mrs. Zella Mae Cum berland’s children. Why did they not have a choice to go to Washington and Webster as these other Negro children who were assigned there had a choice to go to Lincoln? A. Now, wait a minute. You asked why they did not go to Washington or Webster? Q. They went there. That was the school of their choice. Now, you want them to go, under this resolution, Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Redirect 96a to Lincoln. You gave certain Negro children the choice to go to Lincoln. Now, I want to know why you didn’t give these plaintiffs the choice to go to Webster or Washington, the same way you gave those other Negro children a choice to go to Lincoln? A. What I said was, we gave one or two of them a choice to go to Lincoln that was supposed to go to Washington and [37] Webster. Q. Now, we understand that. A. But you asked the question backwards. Q. Now we are asking you why these plaintiff children do not have the choice to go to Washington or Webster? Mr. Hapner: Your Honor, if the witness doesn’t know, I would like him to be given the opportunity to say so. The Court: What is it? Mr. Hapner: If he doesn’t know the answer to this— Mrs. Motley: He didn’t say that he didn’t know. A. Well, we more or less let the kids go to school they was assigned to last year, if they wanted to. And the ones that we had to change, we had to make laws and they had to stay within those geographical drawings of the resolu tion to go to the school they was supposed to. The Court: Let me ask a question. Maybe we can clarify it. These children that you just heard their names, are they in the Lincoln zone? The Witness: They are in the Lincoln zone as far as I know. But as far as sending children to the closest school, that’s out of the question. We have one school in the center of Hillsboro that we have to send them all to. Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Redirect 97a The Court: I just want to clarify that one point. [38] Does that satisfy you? These five plaintiff chil dren are in the Lincoln zone. Mrs. Motley: Yes, we understand. The Witness: They are in the Lincoln zone. They are in the Lincoln zone-— Mrs. Motley: Just a minute, please. We under stand, your Honor, pursuant to the Board’s resolu tion these plaintiff children are assigned to the Lincoln zone. However, before that assignment— The Court: We understand that, they had regis tered in the other schools. Mrs. Motley: Because they chose to go there. In other words, their choice has been revoked. They are denied now the right to go there. He has testi fied that certain students assigned there chose to go elsewhere, and they were given— The Court: What is that last part? Mrs. Motley: He has testified that certain chil dren assigned to W'ebster and Washington— The Court: Of their own choice went to Lincoln. Mrs. Motley: —of their own choice chose to go elsewhere. The Court: That’s right. Mrs. Motley: Now, these students have been as signed to Lincoln and they choose to go to Washing ton and [39] Webster; and the question is why they do not have a choice. The Court: Because they are in the Lincoln zone. That’s the answer. Now, let’s have the next witness. Mr. McGee: Just a minute. Are we finished with him? The Court: Well, will you please speak so I can understand ? Mr. McGee: I say, sir, we may not be finished with the witness. And if his statement is as you Marvel K. Wilkin— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Redirect 98a have put it into the record, then that would be all right. The Court: Well now, Mrs. Motley examined, according to the clock, almost an hour, and when the solicitor finished with him, she asked for one more question and we have had a number of ques tions, haven’t we? Mrs. Motley: Yes. I guess we are through with him at this point. (Witness excused.) The Court: All right. Mrs. Motley: Mr. Upp, would you take the stand, please? The Court: You were previously sworn? Mr. Upp: Yes, sir. The Court: All right. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct [40] P au l L ym an U pp ca lled as a w itness on behalf o f the p la intiffs, being p rev iou sly du ly sw orn, was exam ined and testified fu rth er as fo l lo w s : Direct examination by Mr. Carter: Q. Mr. Upp, I believe you testified before on this matter, didn’t you? A. Yes, sir. Q. You were subpoenaed to bring with you a map of Hillsboro School District showing the location thereon of all the streets in the city listed in the Board’s resolution of September 13, 1954 and showing the three school zones, weren’t you? A. Yes, sir. Q. Did you bring that map? A. No, sir; I did not. It was not in our records, and I could not bring it. 99a Q. Could you tell us how you decided that the Lincoln School zone comprised these streets and none of you seem to have a map ? Mr. Hapner: Your Honor, I believe that Mr. Upp is the superintendent, not a member of the School Board. He didn’t decide that. The Court: Well now, he can answer if he knows [41] the answer. The Witness: The question, please? Q. How did you determine that Adams Street was in the Lincoln School zone if neither you nor the Board nor the solicitor nor the city engineer or any one has a map? A. I assume that that was collected from data probably available from several sources in the city indicatng those streets, but there is no map available as a map of our school district. Q. Now, why is Lincoln School divided into two zones? A. To maintain a pattern of education that we have had for some time due to circumstances that have been pre sented here previously in evidence. Q. Now, all those words, will you define them one by one? What do you mean by “ pattern” ? A. Well, the pat tern of school operation, such as policies of operation of the school, which involved the Lincoln as far as I am con cerned as a colored school; the pattern of assignment of children which is not on record but which is understood in our school, which I have been following for a number of years—not an assignment of the children, but the place that they have attended. Q. Now, this policy and pattern, isn’t it one of racial segregation? A. Well, there is a question in my mind, sir. There [42] has been for a long time. As far as I am per sonally concerned, it is not a question of racial segregation. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct 100a I have maintained throughout this thing that there' may be temporary segregation in Hillsboro, which is due primarily to building conditions and circumstances. Now, that is the only statement that I have, which is an honest one, sir. Q. What do you mean, temporarily? Hasn’t this gone on since 1865? A. Well, as far as the future is concerned it is temporary. We are speaking of' the future. Q, Future temporary? A. As far as I am concerned, Mr. Carter, it is temporary. The maintenance of the Lin coln School is temporary, and I have so stated in my recom mendations to the Board and in my previous testimony to you, that as far as I am concerned, the maintenance of the Lincoln building is just a matter of completion of two new elementary buildings. Q. And then after two years what are you going to do? A. We are, as far as I am concerned, discontinuing the Lincoln School. Q. And you are going to integrate? A. Yes, sir. Q. Then when you say you are going to integrate, that means now you say segregate, doesn’t it? A. Well, it is a question of definition, Mr. Carter. [43] I don’t know. We have partial integration. We have partial, if you want to call it, temporary segregation. I don’t know. It is a matter of definition. Q. Well, in your elementary school system— A. Prob ably is temporary segregation. I have never said it was otherwise. Q- Well, hasn’t it been segregated—has any colored, ever since Lincoln School has been built, when Abe Lincoln died, have any colored—I mean any white students gone to Lincoln? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. Now, do you call that temporary? The Court: No. The Witness: Well, I am speaking of the future. Let’s get our terms clear. Paul Lyman Upp— For Plaintiffs—Direct 101a The Court: Wait just a minute. The Witness: Let’s get our terms clear. The Court: Well, wait, Mr. Upp. The Witness: Pardon me. The Court: I will say this: It is agreed, as I understand it, that Lincoln has been an exclusive colored school— The Witness: That’s right. The Court: —for many years. The Witness: That’s right. [44] The Court: That’s right. And that the point that you are making now is, and that you previously testified to, was this, that when the two new schools are built, Lincoln is going to be torn down and abandoned. Is that right? The Witness: That is right, sir. The Court: And that the policy of the Board now is to integrate after these two new buildings are built? The Witness: That is right. The Court: Is that right? The Witness: That is right, sir. The Court: And that’s what you mean now when you say that Lincoln is temporarily— The Witness: That’s right. The Court: —segregated? The Witness: That’s right. Q. All right. Now, do you know as a result of Mr. Hapner telling you, as he testified at the first hearing, that that segregation is illegal, absolutely illegal, no question? Mr. Hapner: I object to that, your Honor. The Court: Yes. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct A. I am not able to determine that. 102a The Court: That’s a matter for the Court to determine. The Witness: I can’t determine that. [45] Q. Do you know anything about the decisions in the Supreme Court of May the 17th? A. Some of them I do, sir. Q. Did you read Chief Justice Warren’s statement that segregation is completely unconstitutional and illegal? A. I don’t recall that I read that word. I probably did. I read it, yes. Q. And you say that you have temporary segregation; is that right? A. My definition of it is future. That’s my opinion. Q. Therefore your total action is illegal, isn’t it? A. I am not able to determine that, sir. The Court: Well, the Supreme Court hasn’t formulated a pattern as to how they are going to work out their own decision. So if they can’t make up their mind, I don’t see how you can ask this wit ness to. The Witness: Mr. Carter and your Honor, if I may, if I have permission, sir? The Court: (Nodding). The Witness: I have entered into this thing of integration with a very honest and sincere effort to correct it. Q. What are you afraid of ? A. I am not afraid of any thing. I am afraid of housing children in buildings that are not capable of handling them [46] under construction situations and so forth. Now, may I finish? I have presented, what I think, to the Board of Educa tion is a sane, dignified plan of integration, with no knowl- Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct edge from the Supreme Court or any other court relative to how it should be done. It has been done in the high school as far as I know continually. It was done in 1951 by my recommendation. It will be done when the new buildings are completed for the entire school. Now, as far as I am concerned, Mr. Carter, I think that’s the plan that could be adopted by the entire United States as a dignified, sane, sensible, tolerant plan for solution of a very difficult problem. Q. Well, your problem is just building, isn’t it! A. It isn’t building—Yes. Q. It is! A. Primarily. Q. It isn’t building! A. Now, make your question clearly, please. Q. Is your problem racial or building! A. Our problem today is not racial. If we could put our children in the elementary schools today, Mr. Carter, we would do so. We would—If we had the buildings today, and I told you this, and I have told all the people I have talked to, if we had the building space available tomorrow, these [47] plaintiffs would be moved into those buildings as of that completion. Q. All right. A. O. K. Q. Now, you speak of the entire United States. Your problem is building. Now in South Carolina it ’s something else, isn’t it! A. Well, yes. The Court: Well, we are in the Southern Dis trict of Ohio. Let’s stick to that. Mr. Carter: That’s what I would like for him to do. The Witness: No, I am not. I am just trying to say what I am trying to do. Q. Now, who owns the lands and the building at Lin coln! A. The Board of Education, sir. 104a Q. Who owns the land and building at Webster, sir? A. Board of Education. Q. And Washington too? A. Yes, sir. Q. Do your teachers at Washington and Webster and Lincoln have all the same type of tenure contracts? A. Well, in so far as they are qualified, under certain condi tions. [48] Q. Now, isn’t Miss Ash qualified as well as Miss X at Webster for the same grade? A. That’s right. Mr. Hapner: Your Honor, I don’t see the rele vancy of the teachers’ tenure or the teachers’ quali fications. The Court: No. That’s not at issue here, as I see it. Could I ask a question? The Witness: Yes. The Court: Could you just briefly tell us: Lin coln had a fire, didn’t it? The Witness: That’s right. The Court: How many rooms were in Lincoln before the fire? The Witness: Four. The Court: There were four? The Witness: Yes, sir. The Court: And what damage did the fire do to Lincoln ? The Witness: One building, Mrs. Ash’s home room building, a room, was probably 75 per cent damaged by the lire, and the rest was smoke dam age and water damage, sir, and some of the halls and corridors were damaged. The Court: Well, is it in good condition now? The Witness: Yes, sir; it is. [49] The Court: It is in good condition now? The Witness: Yes, sir. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct 105a Q. Now, since it is in good condition, why didn’t you assign the white children to Lincoln that lived right on Collins Street, 30 feet from Lincoln? A. Mr. Carter, I have lived, as you know, in Hillsboro for a long time, and I am trying to do and guide the integration problem in a very dignified and intelligent manner. I want no racial problems to develop. And I stated previously, and I state now, that I think I know the spirit of our community well enough to know that it would not be wise to do that at this time, and that it would contribute to difficulties. I really think so. Q. All right. Now, when the children were integrated in ’51 in the seventh and eighth grades, how many race riots did you have ? A. Didn’t have any. Q. Didn’t have any, did you? A. W on’t have any at all if this thing is left alone. Q. All right. Now, how many race riots would you have if they started to Lincoln? A. I can’t answer that. Q. I mean to Washington? Well, wait till the ques tion—have you come in here and decided this case already? [50] A. No, I have not. I have not. I beg your pardon, sir. Q. Now, how many race riots would you have in Hills boro if these school children that want to go to Washington and Webster started to Washington and Webster the first of February at the second semester? A. Probably none, sir. Q. Well, what is your great fear? A. There is no fear. May I say something else here, sir? Q. Just in response to the question. A. All right. Ask me the question again. What is my fear? Q. What is your great fear of, say, February the first? A. The only question involved as of February the first, as it was September the first, as far as I am concerned, Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct 106a is room space and conditions of construction in the Webster building. Q. Well, why were these children admitted, the plain tiffs, and went to AVashington and AATebster for a week and then put out? A. That has been done with white children and colored children. It would be done in the high school, the Washington building, the AVebster build ing or the Lincoln building if they [51] were overcrowded; they would be registered; we would make an analysis of our room and housing situation and then re-assign if neces sary in any case. Q. Well, did you re-assign any of these white children living right here on Collins Street behind Lincoln School to Lincoln? A. No, I did not for the reasons that I gave. Q. AVhy do you fear that little children under eleven years old will cause more racial friction than the big ones that play basketball together in high school and dance together and eat together and do everything else? A. Mr. Carter, I have no fear whatsoever of the problem of the little child. Now, if I may add this as a problem of mine: At about the time we were having the integration or assign ment problem we were submitting to our voters an operating levy for additional money for the operation of our schools. I didn’t want to do anything in our community for the adults, not for the children, that would cause any friction whatsoever. Now, whether my judgment was right or whether it was wrong I don’t know, but that was my judg ment. Q. Yes. Well, if the children were left alone— A. They would be all right. Q. —there wouldn’t be any friction at all— A. That’s exactly— Q. —in Hillsboro, would there? [52] A. That’s exactly right. The children is no problem. I will agree with that. Q. AVell, why do the parents do it? A. I don’t know. I can’t answer that. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct 107a Q. Now, wasn’t the basis of two sections of Lincoln simply on racial grounds ? A. It was to maintain a pattern of operation on a residential pattern that had been main tained before. As far as I am personally concerned, it was not on racial lines, Mr. Carter. I think you will find—and I probably shouldn’t inject this. I think if you would find—make an honest survey in Hillsboro, that you would find that I have tried to maintain at the Lincoln School one of the finest schools in our system, and I think I have. I have had no prejudice toward colored people. I have none now, none whatever. Q. Well, this rezoning, you heard the president of the Board say, was your job, wasn’t it? A. The rezoning was my job? Q. Do you find any white students living in these two red areas? A. No. Q. No white students? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. And those are the places sent to Lincoln, and you [53] are going to have all of us believe that it is not racial, is is residential? A. Well now, had we wanted to make it purely colored— Q. How could it be more purely? The Court: Let him answer the question. A. All right. If we had wanted to make it that, we would have said “ All colored children go to the Lincoln build ing” . We didn’t say that. Q. What did you say? A. We said we would divide it this way and some of them to go to the Washington building, all right, Webster building, all right. There is no problem here if we just let it alone. Q. That’s true if we just let them alone. A. That’s right. Q. Now, there is three colored at Webster and eight at Washington? A. Four, I believe, sir. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct 108a Q. Four. Now, those four colored and those eight, they live right next door to white, don’t they! A. Well, yes. Q. On these streets? A. I think they do. Q. In Washington and Webster. It would be quite obvious what you were doing if you had picked a colored house [54] and drawn a line, like that? You couldn’t do that, could you, without being detected, could you? A. What was your question? Q. They live on what you call white streets, all of those twelve children, don’t they? A. There are no white or colored streets as far as I am personally concerned in Hillsboro. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct The Court: Well, Mr. Carter, the eight at Wash ington and the four at Webster, they are in the Webster and Washington zones. Mr. Carter: The only ones live on— The Court: Now, wait. Now, as I understand it, there were additional children that lived in the Webster and Washington zones that by their own choice went to Lincoln. Mr. Carter: That’s right, sir. The Court: Do you know how many? The Witness: Three, I think. The Court: Three. Q. Now, when you said Washington and Webster zones, you mean colored zones, don’t you? A. No, I don’t mean colored zones. I mean residentially. Q. What do you mean, residential zones? A. I mean that they were there by housing. And as far as I am personally saying, there is no prejudice, there is no [55] color zone as far as I am concerned. As far as I am con cerned, it is to meet a pattern of operation until the build 109a ings are completed. And I have told you a hundred times that as far as I am concerned I am going to give my heart and soul to integration. Now, that’s all I can say. Q. Now, you keep saying Washington zone. They are in Washington zone, therefore they go to Washington. If they are in Lincoln, they go to Lincoln. But Lincoln zone is just where colored people live, isn’t it! A. Well, they could move out in other zones if they wanted to. Q. Why couldn’t you draw the line, divide it equally into three parts regardless? You would have no prejudice in Hillsboro? A. No, I haven’t. Q. Why didn’t you divide it into three equal parts, the closest to Lincoln, the closest— A. Now, just a minute, Mr. Carter. Q. Wait until I finish the question. A. All right. Pardon me, sir. Q. You said Wasington—Lincoln School—you said Lincoln School was equipped, built better, teachers on par, why don’t you want your white children that live right in the backyard of it to go, it is such a great school? A. I didn’t say it was a great school. I said it was [56] a good school. But I have said, and I will repeat, that I didn’t think the spirit of our community would justify— Q. When you say spirit, do you mean segregation? The Court: Let him answer. A. Not necessarily. Q. What do you mean? A. Relationships. I think that I have to weigh the relationships in my community and try to keep them on a high par, Mr. Carter. Q. But relationship, no prejudice, you say? The Court: He said this, that they were follow ing a temporary pattern. He admitted that there Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Direct 110a was temporary segregation; that it is the purpose of the school Board when the new building's come up to complete the integration and tear down the Lincoln School. Mr. Carter: Well, if he admits that, and his stipulations are such, we have nothing to do but just ask for judgment, issuing of the permanent injunction. As far as the time of execution— The Court: Just a minute. Is that your state ment, Mr. Upp? The Witness: Well now, I say from my point of view that we may have temporary segregation at the Lincoln School— The Court: Yes. [57] The Witness: —obviously. I say that we are going to integrate soon as the buildings are completed, whenever that is. I hope it is tomorrow, but I know it can’t be. Now, that’s the solution to the problem as I see it. The Court: Any further questions? Mr. Carter: The remarks, my remarks, I would like to direct them to you at this time. The Court: Well, you have got them in the record. The Witness: Are you finished with me, sir? Mr. Carter: I am through with you. The Court: Wait just a moment, please. Wait. Cross-examination by Mr. Hapner: Q. Now, Mr. Upp, as far as the question was raised when Mr. Wilkin was on the stand as to why the infant plaintiffs didn’t have the choice of selecting the school they wanted to go to—now, you are familiar with the resolu tion of the school Board? A. Yes, I am. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Cross 111a Q. And under the fifth paragraph of that resolution, do you as superintendent have power upon request made by the parents to assign students to schools other than they would be by zone? A. Yes, sir. [58] Q. And did any of the plaintiffs in this case made that request to you? A. Not personally to me, sir. Mr. Hapner : All right. The Court: Is that all the questions? Mr. Hapner: Yes, your Honor. Redirect examination by Mr. Carter: Q. One question. Do you mean none of the plaintiffs met with you all during August, July and asked you could they go to Lincoln—I mean go to Webster and Washington schools? A. No personal request came to me from any of those people. Q. Weren’t you at the Citizens Committee meeting in August the 9th? A. Oh, yes. That was for total integra tion of the whole school system. Q. Well, you only got three schools. What else do you think they meant? A. Well, these people here, these five people, didn’t come to me personally, sir. Q. At that time? A. Yes. Q. But you have known it since, haven’t you? A. Well, I have known that they came there and wanted [59] to in tegrate the Lincoln totally, yes. The Court: What was that last? I didn’t get your answer. The Witness: That they wanted to integrate the total Lincoln School at that time. Mr. Hapner: One other question, Mr. Upp. As superintendent, are you a voting member of the Board of Education? Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Redirect 112a The Witness: No, sir; I am not. Mr. Carter: But you run the Board, don’t you! The Witness: No. I execute their policies, sir. The Court: We will recess at this point for a few minutes. (Witness excused.) (Thereupon a short recess was taken.) Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Redirect The Court: Mr. Upp, do you mind taking the stand again, 1 want to ask you a couple of questions again. The Witness: Yes, sir. The Court: I think for the benefit of counsel, I think that we should complete the record as to a couple of your answers, that the reason why you are continuing the Lincoln School as you were, as you are now, is because you didn’t want to disturb the feeling there since you needed levies to run the school. The Witness: That’s right. [60] The Court: And bond issues; is that right? The Witness: That is one primary factor, sir. The Court: Now, as a matter of fact, it was de veloped a little at the earlier hearing about that fire in Lincoln School. The Witness: Yes, sir. The Court: Now, as I understand it, that fire was purposely set— Mrs. Motley: Your Honor— The Court: Just a minute now. What were you going to say! 113a Mrs. Motley: A.s I recall the testimony of Mr. Hapner, he testified that that fire had no connection with these plaintiffs. The Court: Well now, wait. I am not saying that it had any connection with the plaintiffs. So if that’s what you are thinking about, that’s— Mrs. Motley: Well, I— The Court: What I want to develop, for the bene fit of the record and for the benefit of the Court of Appeals is this, that Mr. Upp said that he has no problem with the children; his problem is the possible feeling with the grownups, and Mr. Carter raised a question about his fears and so on. I just want to put this in the record briefly incidental to this case. [61] Mrs. Motley: Well, your Honor, I don’t feel that that’s admissible. I don’t think that it ’s admis sible to show that there are certain lawless units in the community who may take the law into their own hands and decide that certain people are not going to have their rights. The Court: I just want to, in this case, put in the record, as I say, for the benefit of the Court of Appeals, for the Supreme Court if necessary, that there is an air and an atmosphere in Hillsboro that the Board should have some rights to take into ac count. Mr. McLain: That isn’t the law. The Court: Now, do you want Mrs. Motley to handle this or do you want to get in it! Mr. McLain: I apologize. The Court: Isn’t it a fact that on the last Fourth of July, that the Lincoln School was purposely set on fire by the county engineer of Highland County ? The Witness: Yes, sir. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Redirect 114a The Court: And that the county engineer was later indicted for burglary and arson? The Witness: Yes, sir. The Court: And found guilty by a jury? The Witness: Yes, sir. The Court: And is now in the state peninten- tiary ? [62] The Witness: Yes, sir. The Court: That’s all. Mrs. Motley: Your Honor, may we have an ob jection to the admission of that. The Court: Oh, yes, surely. By Mrs. Motley: Q. Mr. Upp, may I ask one question while you are on the witness stand? A. Yes, sir. Q. One more. You stated that your plan is to integrate the Lincoln School at the end of this two-year period when the buildings are completed; is that right? A. My state ment was as soon as possible when the buildings are com pleted. I hope it ’s less than two years, Mrs. Motley. Q. Now, when you say integrate., what do you mean by that? A. I mean that all the children, as I recommend in my resolution, that they be taken into the new buildings, the Washington and Webster. Q. That is the children now attending Lincoln? A. That was my recommendation, yes. Q. Does that include the Negro teachers? A. It did not at that time. Q, Do you plan to integrate the Negro teachers? [63] Mr. Hapner: I object to that, your Honor, I don’t think that’s at all material in this case. Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Redirect 115a Paul Lyman Upp—For Plaintiffs—Redirect The Court: What do you mean, integrate the Negro teachers! Mrs. Motley: I wanted to find out what Mr. Upp meant by integrating schools and I was trying to find out whether he meant by that term the integration of the teachers. The Court: You can ask that question. The Witness: I haven’t thought that thing through, Mrs. Motley. I might and I might not. I would want to weigh it. I don’t believe it ’s a ques tion that I am prepared to answer honestly, but as far as the children are concerned, I would say inte gration totally. I am not prepared to answer that question as to teachers. I haven’t thought it through. I would say just off the record that I might be in favor of it. Q. But it is not presently included in that? A. It is not presently included in my recommendation. The Court: Another question. Now, the Hills boro High School is completely integrated, isn’t it? The Witness: Yes, sir. Q. Well, how long has it been? A. Well, the high school proper, the upper four grades, have been integrated, as far as I know, from the [64] beginning of Hillsboro. The seventh and eighth grade, which is a part of the high school, the junior-senior high school, was integrated in 1951. The Court: All right. Any further questions? Q. Do you have any objection to these eight plaintiffs continuing in the Washington and Webster schools? A. None whatever. 116a Helen Ash—For Plaintiffs—Direct Mrs. Motley: That’s all. The Court: All right. (Witness excused.) Mrs. Motley: Mrs. Ash, would you take the stand, please? H elen A sh , a w itness called on beha lf o f the p la intiffs, being first duly sw orn, was exam ined and testified as fo l low s : Direct examination by Mrs. Motley: Q. Would you state your name for the record, please? A. Mrs. Helen Ash. Q. And where do you live, Mrs. Ash? A. I live at 432 Hazel Street, Hillsboro, Ohio. Q. How long have you lived in Hillsboro? A. I ’ve lived there all my life. I am a resident of Hillsboro. Q. Are you also a teacher in the Lincoln School in [65] Hillsboro? A. I am. Q. How long have you been a teacher in the Lincoln School? A. I have taught off and on in the Lincoln School for twenty-one years and six months, not including this year. Q. For twenty-one years and six months? A. That’s right. Q. Not including this year? A. That’s right. Q. That would make it about twenty-two years? A. It will be at the end of the school year. Q. During the twenty-two years that you have been there, have there been any white students in Lincoln? A. No, not to my knowledge. 117a Q. Are there any white students now? A. No. Q. Do you know whether pursuant to the Board’s reso lution of September 13th of this year establishing attend ance zones for Lincoln, whether any white children have been assigned to Lincoln? A. Not to my knowledge. I couldn’t say. I have no information on that. Q. But there are no white children there? A. No white children there. [66] Mrs. Motley: That’s all. The Court: Any cross examination? Mr. Hapner: None, your Honor. The Court: All right. (Witness excused.) Mrs. Motley: Dr. Campbell, will you take the stand, please? The Court: He was previously sworn? The Clerk: Yes, your Honor. Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Direct R oald F. Cam pbell , a w itness called on beha lf o f the p laintiffs, having been prev iou sly sw orn, was exam ined and testified furth er as fo l lo w s : Direct examination by Mrs. Motley: Q. Dr. Campbell, you have testified previously in this case, have you not? A. Yes, I have. Q. And on your previous examination you testified that you had made a study of the school attendance zones in the City of Hillsboro; is that right? A. Yes. Q. You testified previously, I believe, that as a result of your study you had come to the conclusion that the Lincoln School zone or zones were set up to include the 118a Negro [67] population of the city in so far as possible; is that correct? A. That’s correct. Q. Would you explain how you arrived at that conclu sion? A. Yes. It seems to me that the conclusion came from looking at the following items, one, I noticed that there were two areas instead of one. Ordinarily these attendance areas would include only one parcel of land. Second, so far as I could determine the areas were estab lished to include the Negro residences only. I recognize there were a few Negro residences not included, but I think the lines were drawn to include Negro residences only. Neither of these two areas includes the Lincoln School building. One of them is fairly close to the building. The other area is at considerable distance, and the Washington School is between that area and the Lincoln building. Another point, the pupils assigned to the Lincoln build ing, after the Board’s resolution, were so far as I could determine all Negro pupils. And finally, I did check my conclusion with the superintendent. He responded that they were attempting to continue in the Lincoln School the pupils who had been there previously, all of whom wTere Negro. For these reasons, I came to that conclusion. Q. Now, Dr. Campbell, I believe you testified previ ously that you are a Profesosr of Education at the Ohio State [68] University? A. That is correct. Q. Would you state at this time for the record your educational qualifications and your experience in your field of education? Mr. Hapner: I believe he testified to that. The Court: We had that. Didn’t he spend eight years at Utah? Is that right? The Witness: Yes. Mrs. Motley: I believe, your Honor, that he did not complete that statement, and for the purpose of Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Direct 119a this record, in case it ’s appealed, I would like to show that this man was qualified as an expert to testify on a question which I am going to subse quently ask him. The Witness: Well, 1 will try to do that briefly. I was a superintendent of schools in a city school district at Preston, Idaho for approximately nine years, 1933 to 1942. I received my doctor of educa tion degree from Stanford University in the area of school administration in 1942. I then went to the Uni versity of Utah, where I remained for approximately nine years, 1942 to 1951, as a Professor of Educa tion, working largely in the area of educational ad ministration. I then came to Ohio State University in 1952, January, and have been there since, work ing in educational administration. [69] My duties at Ohio State University and at the University of Utah involved teaching courses in educational administration, also consulting with school district—school district superintendents, school boards, with respect to school problems. And I have also done some professional writing. I have published some sixty articles in professional writ ings. I am co-author of one book in school admin istration by Wahlquist and others. Q. Dr. Campbell, could you tell us, as a school admin istrator, the factors which are generally taken into con sideration by a school administrator in establishing school attendance zones? In general what factors are taken into consideration! A. Ordinarily when superintendents and school boards have that problem, they look at such items as the following— Mr. Hapner: Your Honor, I object to the witness reading his answer. Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Direct 120a The Witness: Your Honor, I was not reading my answer. I do not have to read my answer. The Court: Well, all right. Let’s have it, A. Ordinarily such items as the following: The room available in various buildings within the school districts is, of course, a consideration. The proximity of pupils to the various buildings within a school district is ordinarily a [70] consideration. The avoidance of busy highways, rail roads or other, say, waterways, ordinarily would be a con sideration perhaps in drawing boundaries, and then where possible, keeping a little neighborhood together is ordi narily a consideration. These kinds of things are the things usually considered in establishing attendance areas. Q. Now, keeping those factors in mind which are gen erally taken into consideration by school administrators in establishing school attendance zones and in the light of your experience as a school administrator and on the basis of your study of the attendance zones which have been established in Hillsboro, is it your opinion that school attendance zones can be established by the Board of Edu cation in Hillsboro which will not result in Lincoln being an all-Negro school, taking into consideration those factors which are generally taken into consideration by school administrators, based on your knowledge of that school community as a result of your study, based on your ex perience as a school administrator? A. It would seem possible to do that. Mrs. Motley: That’s all. The Court: Cross-examination. Cross-examination by Mr. Hapner: Q. Dr. Campbell, other than what Mr. Upp, the [71] Superintendent of Schools may have told you, you have no Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Cross 121a personal knowledge of any motive or intention that the school Board may have had in mind in making this zoning, this zoning pattern? A. No, 1 have no way of knowing the Board’s motives. Q. Then your conclusions are purely your own per sonal conclusions, are they not? A. They are. Q. And in stating, in answer to Mrs. Motley’s question, as to factors considered by school administrations in estab lishing zoning lines, those are factors which you recom mend, is that true? A. I said those were factors ordinarily employed. Q. Are those factors which you have employed in your own experience? A. I have employed many of those fac tors in my experience. Q. Are they the only factors you know of that are employed? A. No. There would be certain exceptions. Q. But those are common? A. They are common fac tors. Roald F. Campbell—For Plaintiffs—Cross Mr. Hapner: That’s all. The Court: Any further questions? Mrs. Motley: That’s all. [72] The Court: All right. You are excused. (Witness excused.) Mrs. Motley: I believe that’s all we have, your Honor. The Court: Do you have anything? Mr. Hapner: We just want to offer one witness, your Honor; Mr. Hedges. This witness has not been sworn. 122a E lm er H edges a w itness ca lled on beha lf of the defend ants, being first du ly sw orn, was exam ined and testified as follows: Direct examination by Mr. Hapner: Q. Will you state your name, please! A. Elmer Hedges. Q. And do you have a capacity with the school system of Hillsboro! A. I am on the Board. Q. You are a member of the Board of Education! The Court: Will you stand over here so you won’t be in the way of counsel! Q. And do you have children in school as well, Mr. Hedges! A. I have one now in our public schools. Q. And directing your attention to the beginning of [73] this school year, how long was school in session the first day! A. Well, I think that possibly not over two hours, maybe not quite that long. Q. And was school in session the rest of that week! A. No, not to my knowledge. No, I just—I am not too familiar. I don’t think it was. We had our county—I believe a county Fair in which a lot of agricultural students participated. Q. Now, you are familiar, of course, with the Lincoln School building! A. Yes, I am. Q. Now, directing your attention to approximately a year ago, were you ever directed by the Board to discuss the disposal of the Lincoln School property with any one! A. Yes. Elmer Hedges—For Defendants—Direct Mr. Carter: Just a minute. Is he going to tell us a conversation! Unless our people were there, we object. He can say Yes or No, but we object to any conversation, discussion. 123a The Court: With whom! State the purpose of your examination. Mr. Hapner: We will. The purpose, your Honor, is to show7 the good intentions of the defendants in disposing of Lincoln School building before this suit ever arose, or negotiations under progress to dispose of that [74] piece of property. The Court: All right. Mr. Carter: If the Court please, w7e object. That has nothing to do with this case. The Court: I think it may have something to do with the good faith of the Board. I t ’s to sub stantiate Mr. Upp’s testimony, as I see it, that it ’s the policy of the Board and it ’s the program of the Board to dispose of the Lincoln School just as soon as the new buildings are up. Mr. Carter: Well, I believe the law is that the question of segregation, if there is segregation, it ’s unconstitutional, Plessy versus Ferguson regardless of equal accommodations or building or anything else. The question here, as we gather, segregation, was the segregation to set these zones out this way. If it was segregation, that’s all. I t ’s not a matter of whether they intended to build them up or do anything. That goes to the time— The Court: The Supreme Court hasn’t made up their mind and they can’t make up their mind how they are going to put this into effect. Now, if this school Board has the right here and the discretion here for a program, and this is to show what their intention is, I think it ’s perfectly all right. Now7, you may have an [75] exception. Now7, go ahead, Mr. Solicitor. Mr. Carter: We except. Elmer Hedges—For Defendants—Direct 124a Q. With whom did you talk? A. Mr. Ed Thomas, the trustee of the church that exists on the corner of North and East Street. Q. How is that church located with respect to the Washington School building? A. Well, it takes out a corner of the Washington grounds. It cuts out—it sets right on the corner, and it is or should be a part of the Washington School grounds. Q. And what was the nature of the proposition you were discussing with Mr. Thomas? A. Well, I went to see him to see if something couldn’t be worked out whereby the trustees of the church would exchange their church for Lincoln building, that the architects thought that we should have that room to provide for our building. Q. And was this successfully concluded? A. Well, he told me he met with the various trustees of the church and they thought that due to the fact that some of them had attended there all their lives that they didn’t want to change. Elmer Hedges—For Defendants—Direct The Court: Well, could we have this? Did you go there by authority of the school Board? The Witness: Yes. They asked me to see if we [76] could—because the architects told us that we should have that ground. The Court: You were delegated then officially by the school Board to try to negotiate that ex change; is that right? The Witness: Yes, sir. Mr. Hapner: That’s all the questions I have to ask him. The Court: Cross-examination. Mr. Carter: If the Court please. We move that the entire testimony of this witness be stricken as irrelevant and immaterial to this entire cause. 125a The Court: All right. Your motion will be over ruled, and you will have an exception. Any cross- examination ? Mrs. Motley: No questions. The Court: You are excused. (Witness excused.) Mr. Hapner: The defendants rest, your Honor. Mrs. Motley: Your Honor, you will recall that a moment ago I asked Mr. Upp whether he had any objection to the eight plaintiff's continuing in the Washington and Webster schools— The Court: Yes. Mrs. Motley: And that his answer to that ques tion [77] was No. Now, that’s the heart of the plaintiffs’ case, as we see it. The Court: I didn’t understand. I thought that the question was about the eight that go to Washing ton School and the four that go to Webster School, whether he had any objection to their continuing. Mrs. Motley: No; the plaintiffs in this case. I asked him whether he had any objection to the eight plaintiffs continuing in the Washington and Web ster School, and he said—I believe he said none whatsoever. The Court: Well, Mr. Upp can take care of himself. As I understood your question, it was related to the eight that were now in Washington School and the four, not the plaintiffs but the colored pupils. Mrs. Motley: Could we ask the reporter to read that question and the answer, please? The Court: Well, here is Mr. Upp. What did you understand? Elmer Hedges—For Defendants—Direct 126a Mr. U pp: My understanding, sir, was as you stated, that I have no objection to the continuation of the eight and four. I believe that I misunder stood, and I wouldn’t have any objection— The Court: Well, you can ask the question now. Paul Lyman Upp— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct [78] P aul L y m an U pp h av in g been p rev iou sly sw orn, resum ed the stand and testified fu rth er as fo l lo w s : Direct examination by Mrs. Motley: Q. Do you have any objection to the eight plaintiffs in this case? A. I have no objection if the space were there. Q. Now, they were in there on the 7th and 8th; isn’t that right? A. Well, under certain conditions. They were on stools and so forth. Q. Did they have seats on the 8th? A. I don’t believe that they had complete seats. I wasn’t in the building. I wouldn’t know. Q. Did you read the stipulation that’s been signed here stipulating as to the class to which— A. No, I don’t be lieve—have I read that? Mr. Hapner: I think you looked at it. The Witness: I looked at it. The Court: What do you have in mind? Mrs. Motley: Pardon me? The Court: He answered your question now that he had no objection to the eight plaintiffs at tending Washington or Webster, providing they had sufficient [79] room. Is that your answer? The Witness: That’s right. 127a Q. Yes, now, I am asking you whether you know that these eight plaintiffs were assigned seats on the 8th of September? A. They were registered there. Q. And they were assigned seats? A. I believe they were. Q. So that there was room for them, wasn’t there? A. Of a kind, yes. Q. When you say of a kind, what do you mean? A. Well, probably emergency seats. I don’t know what the room conditions were. Q. Now, the average number of pupils per room in the Webster School is 35; isn’t that right? A. That’s what I believe we have in there. Q. And there are as few as 28 in some rooms; right? A, That’s right. Q. And the average number of pupils per room in the Washington School is 38; isn’t that right? A. I believe that is reversed. I am not sure about that. Q. Well, it may be reversed, but those are generally the figures— A. I think those are the figures. [80] Q. —for the average per room; isn’t that right? Mrs. Motley: I think that’s all. The Witness: Thank you. (Witness excused.) Paul Lyman Upp— Recalled—For Plaintiffs—Direct The Court: Now, what did you have? Mrs. Motley: Your Honor, the infant plaintiffs in this case as the stipulation indicates, were registered on the 7th of September, and on the 8th of September they were assigned seats in regular classrooms, as indicated there. We have set forth the name of each infant plaintiff and the 128a room to which, she was assigned. I believe they are all girls. Now, the plaintiffs ask this Court to enjoin the defend ants from requiring them to withdraw from the Washington and Webster schools solely because of their race and color, and to enjoin the defendants from requiring them to attend the Lincoln School, which, as has been admitted, is a racially segregated school, even today, has been all these years, and it is presently a segregated school. Now, all they are asking this Court to do is to enjoin these defendants from requiring them to withdraw from these schools. Now, we feel that that relief can be granted immediately by this Court for the following reasons: The first is, as I have already indicated, [81] they were in school, assigned seats in regular classrooms, and attended until the 17th of September, when this action was taken by the Board to compel them to withdraw. There was no friction involved in their being there. They were accepted by their teachers and given assignments for that week and so forth. In the State of Ohio here there is no state law compel ling racial segregation in the public schools. We have a situation here which has developed as the result of a policy, custom and usage, as we allege in our complaint, of confining Negro children to one of these elementary schools. Now, in the absence of a state law requiring or permitting racial segregation in the public schools, these schools are operated clearly in violation of the state law. The Court: Well, that’s a question for the state, isn’t it? Mrs. Motley: Well, no, because it ’s not only a violation of the state law, but in violation of rights secured to these plaintiffs by the Federal Constitution. Now, it ’s our posi tion that these plaintiffs have a personal and present right to attend the Washington and Webster Schools. As your Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 129a Honor knows, the Supreme Court has held very recently that racial segregation in the public schools deprives Negro children who are segregated [82] of an equal education. In other words, they cannot get the same education in a racially segregated school that they would get in an inte grated school. And all the plaintiffs in this case is asking of this Court is to continue them in the Washington and Webster schools where they will get an equal education. They are not asking this Court to draw school zone lines or to require the plaintiffs to admit white students to Lincoln or to compel students to attend a school that they do not want to attend. They are not asking that. The Court: Well, it ’s practically the same thing, isn’t it? Mrs. Motley: Well, no, your Honor. The Court: Here, tell me this: What about the discre tion of the School Board under the circumstances as shown here by Mr. Upp? Mrs. Motley: The School Board has discretion to establish school zone lines, but that discretion may not be exercised on the basis of race. Now, there is a case— The Court: There is no argument on that score. Here is what is troubling me: This School Board and this school superintendent has inherited a condition that has existed since the Civil War, and they recognized that segregation is unlawful. They are building schools to meet that situa tion. They have passed a resolution to [83] back up the superintendent’s recommendation to completely integrate the elementary schools. They have complete integration in the high schools. Now, aren’t they entitled to any credit for this willingness to go along and try to help this situa tion? Mrs. Motley: Yes, they are, your Honor, but what we are asking does not inconvenience the plaintiff—I mean the defendant, I am sorry. Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 130a The Court: Now, here you are talking about these eight plaintiffs. Suppose you get a ruling directing the School Board to let these children go to Webster and Wash ington, what about the balance of Lincoln ? Isn’t that going to overcrowd them? Then, on the other hand, you are going to say, “ Well, send some of those white children over to Lincoln School” . Isn’t that what you are after, really? Mrs. Motley: Well no, we are not asking that these white children be sent to Lincoln. The Court: Well, that’s the effect of it. You had Mr. Upp’s testimony here that they would be overcrowded, and I think Dr. Campbell, the first time he testified, talked about the overcrowded conditions in Webster and Wash ington School. But at any rate, go ahead. I just wanted to give you a couple of thoughts that I had. Mrs. Motley: Yes. I think it appears clearly, your Honor, from the stipulation that it ’s not unreasonably [84] overcrowded. Now, if they compelled all of these Negro children to attend Lincoln, there would be about 70 of them, I think the figures indicated. Now, you would have about 35 in two rooms. The Court: But they are not doing that. Mrs. Motley: Pardon me? The Court: They are not doing that. Mrs. Motley: Well, that would be the effect of a denial of our decree. These children would have to attend Lincoln, and with the others who are already there, it would make it about 60 or 70 students there, now in two rooms, with two teachers teaching grades one through six in those two rooms. Now, what we are saying is that it may very well be overcrowded according to the state standard, which may be 30 per room or 28 per room. But then that’s true in every school situation today, your Honor. I don’t believe there is a School Board that doesn’t face this problem because of the increased birth rate during and after World Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 131a War II. The lack of school building construction during the war has created that problem. The Court: That’s right, yes. Mrs. Motley: Now, some school situations are seriously overcrowded, but we don’t have a seriously crowded school situation here. If we did, our request would be unreason able. But I think in view of the fact that it ’s not a [85] seriously overcrowded school situation, that clearly the plaintiffs in this case are entitled to continue. Now, the law has been established that they have a right to attend an integrated school, and I think that a court of equity in deciding this case should take into consideration whether there is any great hardship or inconvenience to the defend ants which outweighs the constitutional right. Now, I think that there is no inconvenience or hardship to the defendants here which justifies a court of equity in deny ing a constitutional right, and which justifies a court of equity in denying to children in the second and third grade an equal education in the State of Ohio. All we are trying to get for these children is an equal education. Now, the Supreme Court has said that they cannot get it in Lincoln School because it ’s segregated. And all we are saying is that these children are now going to school; they won’t have an opportunity to go to school all of their lives. If they have to stay in Lincoln for the next two years, that’s two years of unequal education. The Court: I don’t know; they trotted out a pretty good teacher here for Lincoln. Mrs. Motley: She is teaching three grades in her room, you see. Now, all we are saying to this Court is her children—there are two of them in the first grade—haven’t been in school before. There are a couple in each of the [86] third and fourth and sixth grades. Now, all we are asking this Court to do is to give them an equal educa tion, to which they are entitled. If they lose those two Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 132a years, those two years are lost forever. This Court and this School Board cannot give them back those two years they are going to lose at Lincoln; and we say that those little children have a right to go to that school and to get an equal education. Now, Mr. Upp has also indicated that in integrating the seventh and eighth grades, there were no incidents. He has indicated that the high school is integrated, no trouble. It has not been indicated that when these plaintiffs were in the Washington and Webster School that there was any incident. That incident to which your Honor referred occurred before these children went to Webster and Washington, after they went there, Sep tember 8th. The Court: Well, it didn’t lessen the tension any though, did it! Mrs. Motley: I don’t know whether the tension will be lessened two years from now, you see. The Court: Well, all right, go on to your next point. I get that. Mrs. Motley: Well, our point is simply this, your Honor: We feel, as I have indicated, that the education of these children is at stake. These children have a right which we feel this Court should protect now and not two years from [87] now. They will lose two years of educa tion. And all we are asking this Court to do is to enjoin these defendants from putting them out. We are not asking the Court to require them to do anything else, but to enjoin them from putting these plaintiffs out of Washington and Webster. Mr. Hapner: Your Honor, may it please the Court, it seems to me there are two legal questions involved in this case: One, first is, if on these facts as shown in the Court there does exist a segregated school situation in Hills boro ; and the second, assuming such a situation does exist, whether the plaintiffs are entitled to the relief they ask for. Colloquy Retween Court and Counsel 133a As far as the first is concerned, I am not willing to concede as a matter of law that such a situation does exist. A layman may well speak that there is a segregated school since it is attended only by Negro students. However, the evidence has shown that all of the schools in Hillsboro have Negro students, the elementary and high schools together. I t ’s true that the Lincoln School does contain, to the best of my knowledge, only Negro students in the 22 students that attend it. However, there is admittedly a large number of students who refused and failed to attend the Lincoln School, and I have no personal knowledge and no evidence has been introduced as to what their race is. But if it is taken by the Court that there is a segregated school in Hillsboro, I believe that the facts as shown in this case would not entitle the plaintiffs [88] to the relief they ask. First, the relief they ask is for the defendants to be en joined from causing the plaintiffs to withdraw from the Webster and Washington Schools and attend the Lincoln School. Well, the plaintiffs have been withdrawn from the Webster and Washington since approximately the 16th day of September last, and have, to the best of my knowledge, attended no school since then. At least, they aren’t attend ing the public schools of Hillsboro. Whether they could make satisfactory progress if they wrnre readmitted into the schools today is a matter of conjecture and which there is no evidence before the Court. But the evidence does show that the defendants have, before any pressure was brought on them, taken the position that this Lincoln School was to be abolished, that there is presently in progress a building program to build two new school build ings which will eliminate—which will make available enough extra space to make it possible to eliminate the Lincoln School; that these buildings, although in progress, will not be finished for about two years, and at that time the Board Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 134a has made a formal resolution to do away with the Lincoln School. And we have had the testimony of a witness that the Board, before even the fire at Lincoln School, was undergoing negotiations attempting to dispose of the Lin coln building upon the completion of the building program. There has been testimony as to the number of [89] stu dents enrolled in the Washington and Webster buildings, that is, the average number of pupils per class. There has been testimony as to what the state standard is, and of course, it ’s common knowledge that all over the country schools are overcrowded. However, I don’t believe this situation will be bettered by authorizing the two elemen tary schools in Hillsboro to be further overcrowded. The fact is that there are twelve classrooms in both the Washington and Webster buildings, and all the available space is being used for classrooms. There are presently two classrooms in use at the Lincoln building, which I imagine, at least if the plaintiffs are given their decree in this case, will result in the Lincoln building falling entirely into disuse because all the pupils now attending Lincoln building will ask for admission to the other two buildings and would have the same rights as the plaintiffs herein. It seems to me that granting a decree in this case would work a hardship upon, not only the defendants in their offi cial capacities as members of the School Board and super intendent of the public schools, but also upon the teachers and pupils now in the two other Webster and Washington buildings; that the plaintiffs can get an education in the Lincoln building. And many of their predecessors have successfully completed a course of instruction in that build ing and continued on through the high school at Hillsboro, where they are integrated with [90] the students who had attended Washington and Webster buildings, and many have graduated with their class. Apparently they received Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 135a no ill effects from their earlier transition from the Lin coln building. On these facts, your Honor, I don’t believe that the plaintiffs are entitled to their decree. The Court: Just a question. Will you want to file any briefs or not? Mrs. Motley: No. We don’t have one at the moment, your Honor, but I would like to— The Court: I mean, will you want to? Mrs. Motley: Well, I have a brief here which I would like to submit to your Honor, in which we have set forth basically our argument which we have made here, citing cases for the proposition that a court of equity in this kind of situation should act to protect the plaintiffs’ constitu tional rights (handing). If we did file a brief, it would probably be a rehash of that. The Court: Well, this is sufficient. Mrs. Motley: In there we have cited cases which we believe support the contention which we have made. The Court: By the way, while I am thinking about it, you have got those exhibits. Mrs. Motley: Yes, I would like to introduce these into evidence. [91] (Thereupon the documents heretofore marked Plaintiffs’ Exhibits Nos. 4 and 5 for identification, were offered and received in evidence and are made a part of this record.) The Court: Have you the complete file ? I handed you the whole file there. Mrs. Motley: Yes. The Court: Now, do you want a copy of this record? Mrs. Motley: Pardon me? The Court: I say, we will have to have a copy of this record before we proceed further. Do you want a copy of it? Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 136a Mrs. Motley: Yes, I guess we will. The Court: Do you want a copy of it1? Mr. Hapner: Yes. At this time, your Honor, I would like to move for the admission into evidence of this De fendants ’ Exhibit A. The Court: 0. K. It will be received. (Thereupon the document heretofore marked Defend ants’ Exhibit A for identification was offered and received in evidence and is made a part of this record.) Mrs. Motley: I would just like to say one thing in re buttal to Mr. Hapner’s argument. He said that he did not think that the plaintiffs if admitted now would make any progress in the class because they have been out for a couple of months. Well, our position is this, the second semester [92] begins February first or something like that. If they are admitted, or permitted to continue rather, they will perhaps lose half of a year’s school. But, on the other hand, it ’s our contention if they are forced to attend Lin coln they will lose two years of school, and as against a half a year, two years obviously is worse than a half a year of school. The Court: Well, let’s see if I can get your contention here. You think that for practical purposes Lincoln is practically worthless; is that right! Mrs. Motley: Our contention is that it ’s a racially seg regated school. The Court: I understand that. But now you bring this teacher, who makes a very good impression as a teacher, and your position it seems to me is rather incon sistent. You say if they go to Webster, they will only lose six months, whereas if they go to Lincoln, they will lose two years. Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 137a Mrs. Motley: Yes, because it ’s a racially segregated school. Now, you will recall in the Supreme Court’s deci sion, that the Supreme Court did not base its decision upon the physical equality of the schools. The Supreme Court specifically pointed out that even if the schools are equal— and in those cases the facts were that they were equal. There was no question that the facilities were equal. Teacher qualifications were the same. Now, that may very well be true here. Now, the Supreme Court has said that if they have [93] racially segregated schools it has a psy chological effect on the Negro child which interferes with his ability to learn, and consequently prevents him from getting an equal education. Now, they may very well go to Mrs. Ash’s school, and she may very well be an excellent teacher, which she prob ably is, but it ’s a racially segregated school and these chil dren— The Court: Well, we have got that point. Now, Mr. Crawford, how long will it take you to write this record? The Reporter: I have that Grand Jury to get out. I would say two or three weeks, depending upon what we have in court, your Honor. The Court: Well, you will get it out as promptly as you can? The Reporter: Yes, your Honor. The Court: Court will be in recess. (Thereupon, at 12:29 o ’clock p. m., the hearing in the above-styled action came to a close.) Colloquy Between Court and Counsel 138a [ 9 4 ] C e r t i f ic a t e in THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F or the S outhern D istrict of O hio W estern D ivision Cincinnati, Ohio This is to certify that the foregoing transcript of pro ceedings in the matter of Civil Action No. 3440 o- J oyce M arie Clemons, an in fant, by G ertrude Clem ons, her m other and next frien d , et al., Plaintiffs, vs. T he B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, O hio , et al., Defendants. ----------------------------- o------------------------------ on the 29th day of December 1954 before the Honorable John H. Druffel, Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, Western Division, is a true and correct transcript thereof. R obert I. Crawford, Official Court Reporter. 139a (F ile d January 28, 1955) IN TH E UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F oe. t h e S outhern D istrict of O hio W estern D ivision Civil No. 3440 --------------------- o--------------------- J oyce M arie Clemons, an infant, by Gertrude C lemons, her m other and next frien d , et al. Plaintiffs, v. Decision of Druffel, D. J. T h e B oard of E ducation of H illsboro, Ohio , a b od y corp ora te , et al. Defendants. D ruffel, District J. Plaintiffs in their complaint invoke the jurisdiction of this court pursuant to Title 28, United States Code, Sec tion 1343(3), to redress a claimed deprivation under color of any state law, statute, ordinance, or regulation of any rights secured by the Constitution of the United States, i.e., the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amend ment to the Constitution of the United States. This is a proceeding for a permanent injunction enjoin ing defendants, and each of them, or their agents, from, enforcing a claimed policy of racial segregation in the pub lic elementary schools of Hillsboro, Ohio, and being a class 140a action brought by plaintiffs on behalf of themselves and others similarly situated, pursuant to Rule 23(a)(3) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. The members of plaintiffs’ class are infant Negro chil dren, who it is claimed, after being duly enrolled in the Washington and Webster elementary schools, were forced to withdraw solely because they were Negroes and were assigned to the Lincoln elementary school, which it is claimed, was maintained and operated by the Board of Education as a school to be attended exclusively by Negro elementary school children; that Lincoln school, in its physical facilities and curriculum, was grossly inferior to Washington and Webster schools; that this class action involves approximately seventy Negro infants, and a com mon relief is sought for each of these plaintiffs as well as for the class. Defendants answered, admitting all formal allegations of the complaint, and allege that the attendance in the elementary schools by children living within the corporate limits of Hillsboro, is determined by the place of residence of the pupils concerned, and not by race, color, or national origin. Plaintiffs’ evidence furnished through the President of the Board of Education, the Superintendent of the Schools, an expert witness in the person of a professor of educa tional administration, and a colored teacher of Lincoln School, together with an agreed stipulation of facts, sub ject, however, to the qualifying testimony concerning the School Board’s program to completely integrate the ele mentary schools, virtually established the allegations of their complaint, including plaintiffs’ claim that the estab lishment of the so-called elementary school zone is a sub terfuge to permit the continuance of Lincoln School for Negro children exclusively. Decision of D ruff el, D. J. 141a The only direct evidence offered by the defendants was by one of the members of the Board of Education, who testified that approximately a year ago he was authorized by the Board to negotiate the disposal of Lincoln School. This evidence was received over plaintiffs’ objections to show the good intentions of the defendants in attempting to dispose of the Lincoln School building before this suit was filed. Without discussing the evidence in too minute detail, it fairly appears, and this court finds as a matter of fact, that the defendants, years ago, recognized that the policy of segregation of Negro children in Lincoln School was a violation of the Ohio law, and adopted a program designed to completely integrate the elementary school pupils. This program called for the building* of two modern schools and the discontinuance of Lincoln School. The Hillsboro High School has been integrated for some years; the seventh and eighth grades of the elementary schools were completely integrated in 1951, and in Sep tember, 1954, fifteen Negro children were assigned to Wash ington and Webster schools, three of them transferring to Lincoln School later at their own request; the seven infant plaintiffs being transferred to Lincoln School according to Mr. Upp, Superintendent of Schools, because there was insufficient space to accommodate them in Washington and Webster. In order to put its program of complete integration into effect, it was necessary to raise the money by bond issues. The voters failed to pass the bond issues on three occa sions, but finally passed one in 1953. The Board of Educa tion fully expects the new buildings to be completed within two years and are officially on record as favoring complete integration and the discontinuance of Lincoln School, the bone of contention here. Decision of D ruff el, D. J. 142a The good faith and sincerity of the Board of Education, and its Superintendent of Schools, Paul Upp, in their endeavor to overcome what they concede as temporary segregation, is amply supported by the record. Although in their complaint plaintiffs allege this is a class action involving some seventy Negro children, in their argument at the close of the case, they asked only that the seven infant plaintiffs be restored to their former seats to which they were assigned in Webster and Washington schools, well knowing that the remaining approximate sixty Negro children would be entitled to the same privileges. They argue that sufficient space could be found for the seven infant plaintiffs. However, if an injunction were granted in this case, the same move would be made for the remaining sixty. In the opinion of the court, this would seriously disrupt the orderly procedure and administration of the Washington and Webster schools to the detriment of all the students in the classrooms affected by the order. Under the circumstances as disclosed by the evidence we do not deem it our duty to interfere with the program of integration as outlined by the Board and Mr. Upp, Superintendent of Schools. We think Mr. Upp’s solution is sound and the best: “ I have lived, as you know, in Hillsboro for a long time, and I am trying to do and guide the integration problem in a very dignified and intelli gent manner. I want no racial problems to develop. “ And I stated previously, and I state now, that I think I know the spirit of our community well enough to know that it would not be wise to do that at this time, and that it would contribute to diffi culties. I really think so.” (Record, page 49.) Decision of Druffel, D. J. 143a The Ohio courts have long recognized that Boards of Education “ in the exercise of their powers * * * have a wide discretion, and that the courts will not interfere with that exercise of sound discretion in the absence of an abuse thereof. ’ ’ Board of Education of Cleveland Heights, et al. v. State ex rel. Goldman, 191 N. E. 914, 916. In an action in which the Price Administrator sought an injunction to prevent acts and practices violative of the Emergency Price Control Act of 1942, which the District Judge refused, the Supreme Court, on appeal said among other things: “ We are dealing here with the requirements of equity practice with a background of several hun dred years of history. Only the other day we stated that ‘An appeal to the equity jurisdiction conferred on federal district courts is an appeal to the sound discretion which guides the determinations of courts of equity.’ (Meredith v. Winter Haven, 320 U. S. 228, 235.) The historic injunctive process was de signed to deter, not to punish. The essence of equity jurisdiction has been the power of the Chancellor to do equity and to mould each decree to the necessities of the particular case. Flexibility rather than rigid ity has distinguished it. The qualities of mercy and practicality have made equity the instrument for nice adjustment and reconciliation between the pub lic interest and private needs as well as between competing private claims. We do not believe that such a major departure from that long tradition as is here proposed should be lightly implied.” Hecht Co. v. Bowles, 321 U. S. 321, 329, 330. We believe the explicit language of the Supreme Court in that case must control the decision here, and for that Decision of Druffel, D. J. 144a reason this court feels obliged to deny plaintiffs’ prayer for an injunction, and it is so ordered, at plaintiffs’ costs. An entry may be prepared to carry this decree into effect, with exceptions. Decision of Druffel, D. J. J o h n H. D ruffehl, United States District Judge. Appearances: For Plaintiffs: R ussell L. Carter, Dayton, Ohio; J ames H. M cGee, Dayton, Ohio; T hurgood M arshall, New York, N. Y .; Constance B aker M otley, New York, N. Y. For Defendants: J ames D. H apner, Hillsboro, Ohio. 145a Final Order (Filed February 16, 1955) IN THE! UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT F ob, the S outhern D istrict of O hio W estern D ivision Civil No. 3440 --------------------- o--------------------- J oyce M arie Clemons, an infant, by G ertrude C lemons, her m other and next friend , et al. Plaintiffs, v. T h e B oard- of E ducation of H illsboro, O hio , a b od y corpora te , et al. The issues in the above-entitled action having been brought on for trial on the 29th day of December 1954, by order of this court, before Honorable John H. Druffel, without a jury, and the parties having appeared by their respective counsel and the issues not stipulated in the- Stipulation of Facts filed on the 28th day of December 1954 having been duly tried, and the court having filed its opinion on the 28th day of January 1955 it is : O r d e r e d , a d j u d g e d a n d d e c r e e d t h a t p l a i n t i f f s ’ p r a y e r f o r a p e r m a n e n t i n j u n c t i o n b e a n d t h e s a m e h e r e b y i s d e n i e d a n d t h a t t h e d e f e n d a n t s h a v e a n d r e c o v e r t h e i r c o s t s f r o m t h e p l a i n t i f f s . United States District Judge. Dated: February 16, 1955.