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IN THE United States Court of Appeals FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT. No. 21,256 ELZA LESLYE JACKSON, ROBERT THOMAS, SAMUEL B. WELLS, SLATER HUNTER KING, AND THOMAS C. CHATMON, Appellants, vs. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Appellee. On Appeal from the United States District Court for the Middle District of Georgia. BRIEF FOR APPELLEE. Address: P. O. Box 118, Macon, Georgia. Floyd M. Buford, United States Attorney, W ilbur D. Owens, J r., Assistant United States Attorney, Attorneys for Appellee. E. L. M endenhall, I nc., 1108 Oak Street, Kansas City, Mo. 64106, HArrison 1-3030 12- 29 - 64— 50 INDEX I. Statement of the Case ......................................... 1 II. The Overwhelming Evidence of Guilt Supports the Denial of the Motions for Judgment of Ac quittal Made by Appellants Jackson and K ing...... 2 III. A. Appellant Elza Leslye Jackson .. ..........- ........ 2 1. The Indictment—Jackson ......................... . 2 2. The Evidence—Jackson .............. .......... . 3 3. The Evidence Supports the Verdict............. 5 B. Appellant Slater Hunter King ....................... . 6 1. The Indictment—King ....... ................ . 6 2. The Evidence—King ..... ......................... ..... 7 3. The Evidence Is More Than Sufficient to Support the Verdict of Guilty .... ................ 9 III. There Is No Basis for the Application of the At torney-Client Privilege in Appellant Wells’ Case .... 10 A. The Evidence—Reverend Wells .................... . 10 B. The Law Applied to the Evidence—Reverend Wells ........ ................. ..................... .......... ......... 13 IV. The Jury List from Which the Grand and Petit Juries Which Indicted and Tried Appellants, Were Selected, Was Composed in Accordance with the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and the Decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States ............ ......... 15 1. The Evidence Adduced Before the Trial Court __ 16 a. The 1959 Jury List ...................... ............... 16 b. The 1953 Jury List ................. ................. ... 20 c. Pre-1953 Jury Lists .... .................. ............... 21 d. Selecting Grand and Petit Juries ................. 22 II Index e. The Court in Overruling Defendant’s Motion Stated: ............................................................ 22 f. Statistical Information—1960 Census .......... 24 2. The Law .............................................................. 25 a. Statutory Law on Selection of Federal Jurors 25 b. Decisions of Federal Courts on State Jury Composition Questions ........................ 29 1. The Supreme Court ................................ 29 2. Decisions of This Court on the Composi tion of State Juries ......................... 33 c. Decisions on the Composition of Federal Ju ries ................................................................. 36 1. The Supreme Court ................................... 36 2. The Circuit Courts of Appeal ......... ......... 38 d. The Jury System As Envisioned by the Judi cial Conference and the Justice Department _ 39 e. Burden of Proof..... ........................................ 40 3. The Law Applied to Our Case ...."„........ ,............ 41 V. Conclusion _ 45 Certificate of Service .... .............1—............................. 45 Appendices— Appendix from Rabinowitz: B. Excerpts from 1960 Census............................... 47 C. Department of Justice Proposal for Amending Section 1864, Title 18, United States Code .... 49 Cases Cited Ah Ming Cheng v. United States, 300 F.2d 202 .... ..... 2 Akins v. Texas, 325 U.S. 398 ...................................... 33 Arnold and Dixon v. North Carolina, 32 U.S.L. Week. 4340 .......... ............................ ...............................29, 31,32 Avery v. Georgia, 345 U.S. 559 __ ...______________ 32 Ballard v. United States, 329 U.S. 187 ..................... 37 Bennett v. United States, 285 F.2d 567 ....... ............ . 2 Brownfield v. South Carolina, 189 U.S. 426 ................. 41 Cafritz v. Koslow, 167 F.2d 749 ............................... . 14.15 Cassell v. Texas, 339 U.S. 282 .....................................-33, 44 Chance v. United States, 322 F.2d 201 ............. 28-29, 38, 39 Collins v. Walker, 329 F.2d 100...................................... 33 Dow v. Carnegie-Illinois Steel Cor-p., 224 F.2d 414...... 38 Eubanks v. Louisiana, 356 U.S. 584 ............................ 32 Gibson v. Mississippi, 162 U.S. 565 ........................... ... 30 Glosser v. United States, 315 U.S. 60 .................... 2, 36, 41 Gorman v. United States, 323 F.2d 51 ............................ 2 Hernandez v. Texas, 347 U.S. 475 .............................. T31, 32 Hill v. Texas, 316 U.S. 400 ......... .............................31,33 Hoyt v. Florida, 368 U.S. 57 .................. ............ ........ . 41 Johnson v. United States, 271 F.2d 597 .... ................... 2 Martin v. Texas, 200 U.S. 316 .... ................ ............ .... 30 Neal v. Delaware, 103 U.S. 370 ..........................—_ 30 Norris v. Alabama, 294 U.S. 587 ................ ........... 30, 31, 33 Pierre v. Louisiana, 306 U.S. 354 ............................... 32 Riggs v. United States, 280 F.2d 949 ______...______... 2 Rogers v. Alabama, 192 U.S. 226 _________ _______ 30 Smith v. Mississippi, 162 U.S. 592 ___...________ __41 Smith V. Texas, 311 U.S. 128 _______________ 31,33,36 Strauder v. West Virginia, 100 U.S. 308 __________ 29, 30 Tarrance V. Florida, 188 U.S. 519 _______________ 41 Thacker v. United States, 155 F.2d 90 ______ ______ 2 Thiel v. Southern Pacific Co., 328 U.S. 217 _____36, 37, 38 Thomas v. Texas, 212 U.S. 278 _________________ 33 Index h i IV Index United States v. Debrow, 346 U.S. 374 ______________ 5 United States v. Greenberg, 200 F. Supp. 382 ............. 29 United States, v. Kovel, 296 F.2d 918 _....................... 14 United States ex rel. Seals v. Wiman, 304 F.2d 53___ 34, 35 Virginia v. Rives, 100 U.S. 313 _______________ __ 33 Walker v. United States, 301 F.2d 94 ____________ 2 Miscellaneous 8 Wigmore, Evidence (McNaughton rev. 1961) 554 . 13 The Jury System in the Federal Courts— 26 F.R.D. 409, 421 __________ ________ 39-40, 41-43 28 U.S.C., Sections 1861-1864 .....................25,26,27,40,44 103 Cong. Rec. 13250, 13290, 13291 ............. ..... 27,28, 38 IN THE United States Court of Appeals FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT. No. 21,256 ELZA LESLYE JACKSON, ROBERT THOMAS, SAMUEL B. WELLS, SLATER HUNTER KING, AND THOMAS C. CHATMON, Appellants, vs. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Appellee. On Appeal from the United States District Court for the Middle District of Georgia. BRIEF FOR APPELLEE. I. STATEMENT OF THE CASE. Appellants’ Statement of the Case while generally accurate is nevertheless incomplete and written with a view towards Appellants’ argument. Appellee will therefore rely on its own Statement which will be presented as a part of each particular point of Appellee’s argument. 2 II. THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF GUILT SUPPORTS THE DENIAL OF THE MOTIONS FOR JUDGMENT OF ACQUITTAL MADE BY APPELLANTS JACKSON AND KING. Only appellants Jackson and King question the suf ficiency of the evidence to support their convictions of perjury. In considering appellants’ denied motions for judgment of acquittal and the “sufficiency or insufficiency of the evidence to support the conviction, it is not . . . [this court’s] function to weigh the evidence or to pass upon the credibility of the witnesses. Judgment of conviction must stand if there is substantial evidence to support the judgment considering the entire record in a light most favorable to the United States. Glasser v. United States, 315 U.S. 60 (1942); Walker v. United States, 5 Cir. 1962, 301 F.2d 94; Ah Ming Cheng v. United States, 5 Cir. 1962, 300 F.2d 202; Bennett v. United States, 5 Cir. 1960, 285 F.2d 567; Riggs v. United States, 5 Cir. 1960, 280 F.2d 949; Thacker v. United States, 5 Cir. 1946, 155 F.2d 90; Johnson V. United States, 4 Cir. 1959, 271 F.2d 596, 597;” Gorman v. United States, 323 F.2d 51 (5th Cir., 1963). The substantial evidence that supports the conviction of appellants Jackson and King is: A. APPELLANT ELZA LESLYE JACKSON. 1. The Indictment—Jackson. The indictment charges that appellant Jackson com mitted perjury on August 5, 1963, before a Grand Jury of 3 the United States District Court for the Middle District of Georgia in that she did: . . testify in substance that she, the defendant, did not recall being present at the meeting held in the office of [sic] Attorney C. B. King, Albany, Georgia, on the afternoon of July 30, 1963 . . 2. The Evidence—Jackson. Prior to Tuesday, July 30, 1963, a subpoena directing each person to be in U. S. District Court, Macon, Georgia, before a federal grand jury on Wednesday, July 31, 1963, at 9:30 a.m. was served on each of the following persons: Appellant Elza Leslye Jackson; Slater H. King; Samuel B. Wells; Robert Thomas; Thomas Chatmon; Dora White; Emma Perry; Edward Bryant, Jr.; Howard Seay and Sego Thomas Gay. (G-2 through 11). Attorney C. B. King has an office in Albany, Georgia, which consists of two rooms—an outer reception room where his secretary works and an inner private office which he uses. In July, 1963, Mrs. Ann Waller Butler was his secretary and Miss Elizabeth Holtzman, Mr. Frank Parker and Mr. Dennis Roberts, none of whom were admitted to the practice of law, were his law clerks. (R. 281-283). Between 4:45 p.m. and 6:30 p.m., Tuesday, July 30, 1963, according to Mrs. Ann Waller Butler, secretary, a group representing a church came to Attorney C. B. King’s office. (R. 297). In addition to the church group, Mrs. Elza Leslye Jackson, appellant; Slater King; Samuel Wells; Thomas Chatmon; Robert Thomas; Mrs. Emma Perry; Howard Seay; Sego Gay and Mrs. Dora White came to Attorney King’s office. (R. 291-292). During that time 4 people were in both rooms of the office and the door between the rooms was open. As many as 18 to 20, and as few as 6 persons, were present together from 4:45 until 6:30 p.m. Some were seated and some were standing. Slater King brought extra chairs to the office. At one time all the people were seated. (R. 293). Miss Elizabeth Holtzman talked to the entire group about the rights of witnesses appearing before a federal grand jury. (R. 292- 293). Persons present asked questions. Appellant Jackson was present for 15-25 minutes. (R. 294). Miss Elizabeth Holtzman, a Harvard law student work ing as law clerk, said that during the same time she saw as many as 15 and as few as 6 people in the office of Attorney C. B. King. Of those people she could name only Howard Seay, Thomas Chatmon, Samuel Wells and appellant Jack- son. For somewhat over an hour she stayed in Attorney King’s private office. During that hour she talked about the functions and the composition of the United States grand jury. Questions were asked. (R. 300-305). While in Attorney King’s private office she specifically saw appellant Jackson, Howard Seay, Samuel Wells, Slater King and Mrs. Butler. (R. 306). Eddie Bryant, Jr., who had been subpoenaed to appear in Macon before the grand jury (R. 308), went to Attorney C. B. King’s office around 5:30 p.m., Tuesday, July 30. Nine to 12 people were in the office when he arrived. (R. 310). Appellant Jackson was there on his arrival. (R. 313). He heard a lady speak about coming to Macon to appear before a grand jury. (R. 312). Reverend Wells and appellant Jackson also had something to say about the 5 grand jury. (R. 314). He remembered only the following names of people he saw: appellant Jackson, Robert Thomas, Sego Gay, Miss Emma Perry and Vincent Collier. (R. 312). He stayed in Attorney King’s office for about one-half hour (R. 310), and when he left appellant Jackson was still there. (R. 313). Appellant’s grand jury testimony was read to the jury. (R. 332-345). Appellant Jackson said that her answers to the grand jury were true when given. (R. 349). She also stated that she had received an A.B. degree from Benedict College. Otherwise appellant’s answers on cross-examination were evasive. (R. 351-355). 3. The Evidence Supports the Verdict. The essential elements of perjury are: (1) an oath administered and authorized by a law of the United States (2) taken before a competent tribunal (3) a false statement (4) wilfully made (5) as to facts material to the hearing. United States v. Debrow, 1953, 346 U.S. 374. Appellant Jackson questions only elements (3) and (4) and so just contends that there was no false statement wilfully made. Appellant Jackson, as shown by her grand jury testi mony (R. 332-345), in sum and substance clearly told the grand jury she did not recall being present at the meeting held in the office of Attorney C. B. King, Albany, Georgia, on the afternoon of July 30, 1963. 6 The testimony of all three witnesses—Mrs. Butler, Miss Holtzman and Mr. Bryant—paints a vivid picture of a gathering of persons who had received grand jury sub poenas on the afternoon preceding the morning of their appearance before the grand jury. How many persons? According to Attorney King’s secretary as many as twenty. Chairs were brought; all were seated. Miss Holtzman talked about the rights of witnesses appearing before a federal grand jury. Appellant Jackson, a college graduate, according to Miss Butler and Mr. Bryant was present for 25-30 minutes, and as related by Mr. Bryant appellant also had something to say to those present about the grand jury. The only evidence that disputed the prosecution’s case was appellant’s mere statement that her grand jury testi mony was true. It is thus apparent that the jury listened to practically uncontradicted evidence from three witnesses; that the evi dence was more than sufficient to support a finding of guilty and that the trial court correctly denied appellant’s motion for judgment of acquittal. B. APPELLANT SLATER HUNTER KING. 1. The Indictment—King. Appellant King was charged with committing perjury by testifying before a grand jury of the United States District Court for the Middle District of Georgia on August 5, 1963, in substance that: “he . . . did not recall attending any type of meeting during the week of July 29, 1963, through August 2, 7 1963, wherein he or others discussed the fact that this Grand Jury was in session here in Macon, Georgia.” (R. 824-825). 2. The Evidence—King. As of July 20, 1963, appellant King, Elza Leslye Jackson, Samuel Wells, Thomas Chatmon, Edward Bryant, Jr., Robert Thomas, Mrs. Emma Perry, Howard Seay, Sego Gay, Mrs. Dora White, and Eddie Brown had all received subpoenas to appear in U. S. District Court, Macon, Georgia, July 31, 1963, at 9:30 a.m. (R. 895; Gl-11). Attorney C. B. King’s office in Albany, Georgia, con sists of two rooms—an outer for reception and his secretary and an inner private office. (R. 860). In July, 1963, Mrs. Ann Waller Butler, secretary, and Miss Elizabeth Holtz- man, Mr. Dennis Roberts, Mr. Frank Parker, law clerks but not lawyers, worked for Attorney King. (R. 860-863). Around 4:30 on the afternoon of July 30, Attorney King telephoned his office and talked with Mrs, Butler, his secretary, and Miss Holtzman, his law clerk. (R. 881-882). Attorney King indicated he had a conference scheduled and asked Miss Holtzman “to speak to the group . . . when they came . . . [about] the functions and structure of the Federal grand jury.” (R. 926-927). After the phone call, the conference was held. (R. 884). Between the phone call around 4:30 and when she left the office around 6:15-6:30 p.m., Mrs. Butler saw Mrs. Jackson, Samuel Wells, Thomas Chatmon, Robert Thomas, Mrs. Emma Perry, Howard Seay, Sego Gay, Mrs. Dora White and appellant Slater King come into the office of 8 Attorney C. B. King. (R. 861). According to Mrs. Butler, appellant King arrived around 5:15-5:30 p.m,, and was there 10 to 15 minutes. (R. 866). Mrs. Butler saw as many as 18 and as few as 6 people in the office during the almost two hour period. (R. 868). People were seated and standing, but around 5:30, when appellant King was there, they were all seated. (R. 866; 869). They were seated in both rooms. (R. 930, Holtzman). Miss Holtzman talked to the group as a whole about the rights of witnesses appearing before federal grand juries (R. 871), and Reverend Wells made remarks in the inner room about the same subject. (R. 872-873). Miss Elizabeth Holtzman told of being asked by Attor ney C. B. King by telephone “to speak to the group, to these people . . . when they came . . . [about] the functions and structure of the federal grand jury . . .”. After the tele phone conversation people came to the office. (R. 926-927). Miss Holtzman stayed in the inner room, the room usually used by Attorney C. B. King, from approximately 4:30 to about 6:15 (R. 934) (the entire time during which the meeting took place). She “. . . discussed briefly the functions and the structure of the federal grand jury”. Questions were asked about her talk. (R. 931). In the inner room she saw appellant Slater King. (R. 934). The greatest number of people she saw was 15 and the least number was 8 or 9. (R. 929-930). “. . . For the most part, people were seated.” (R. 935). The defendant must have also been seated because according to Miss Holtzman, “I believe he did get up” to answer the telephone. (R. 941). Eddie Bryant, Jr., was told by Robert Thomas that there was to be a meeting. (R. 916). He went to C. B. 9 King’s office around 4:45. . . Most everyone in there was talking . . . about coming up here to appear before the jury . . . the grand jury.” (R. 899, 900). Eddie Bryant stayed about 40 minutes. Slater King was there when he got there (R. 904), during the time he was there (R. 902- 903), and when he departed, he left appellant King there. (R. 904). Reverend Weils was also there the full time Bryant was. (R. 907). A white girl (Miss Holtzman) talked about coming up to Macon the next day. (R. 911). Reverend Wells and Mrs. Jackson also talked. (R. 913). The appellant King, a graduate of Fisk University (R. 995) admitted coming to the office of C. B. King, bringing chairs and sitting down in the inner room. (R. 984). He remembered seeing Mrs. Jackson, Mrs. Perry, Mrs. White, Reverend Wells, Mr. Bryant, and Mr. Seay in the office. (R. 998-999). The appellant’s grand jury testimony consisting of more than the two isolated questions selected by appellant in his brief, p. 16, was read to the jury and introduced in evidence. (R. 957-962). 3. The Evidence Is More Than Sufficient to Support the Verdict of Guilty. Like appellant Jackson, appellant King contends that of the five essential elements of perjury heretofore listed, the evidence fails to show (3) a false statement (4) wilfully made. As shown by the transcript of appellant’s grand jury testimony the appellant clearly told the grand jury in sum and substance that he did not recall attending any type of 10 meeting during the week of July 29, 1963, through August 2, 1963, wherein he or others discussed the fact that the Grand Jury was in session in Macon, Georgia. Appellant King asks this court to believe what the trial jury would not believe—that together with other people who had also been subpoenaed to be in Macon the next morning before a grand jury, he was in the office of Attorney C. B. King for a minimum of 15 (Mrs. Butler) and maximum of 40 minutes (Mr. Bryant); he was seated in the inner private office; everyone was talking about coming to Macon to the grand jury; Miss Holtzman, Rever end Wells, and Mrs. Jackson talked to the group about the grand jury; he, a college graduate, did not know what was being discussed. The record and this summation of the evidence clearly shows that there was more than sufficient evidence on which to reach a finding that appellant knew the subject matter of the discussion in that office and to aid the grand jury in its deliberations could have told the grand jury of the meeting. The trial court correctly denied appellant’s motion for judgment of acquittal. III. THERE IS NO BASIS FOR THE APPLICA TION OF THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVI LEGE IN APPELLANT WELLS’ CASE. A. THE EVIDENCE—REVEREND WELLS: Mrs. Ann Waller Butler, secretary to Attorney C. B. King, explained that of six particular people—appellant Samuel Wells, Thomas Chatmon, Robert Thomas, Mrs. Emma Perry, Slater King, and Mrs. Elza Jackson—only one, Thomas Chatmon, had an appointment with C. B. King 11 the afternoon of July 30, 1963. (R. 630-631). C. B. King was absent; in his absence a discussion took place. (R. 633). Twelve or 13 people attended the conference. Rever end Wells didn’t arrive until around 6:00. (R. 644). After this Mrs. Butler testified on page 655: “A. Rev. Wells did say something to the people that were sitting near him, but I don’t recall him having something to say to the entire group. However, you could hear what Rev. Wells was saying.” Mr. Blasingame: “Q. What was he saying? “A. Now, as to what he was saying, I really couldn’t say. I believe—no—he explained the condi tions under which he felt that he had received his subpoena. (Emphasis added). “Q. What subpoena? “A. A subpoena that said United States versus Several.” and the following objection was made: “Mr. King: Now, if Your Honor pleases, I would object to anything that Rev. Wells said in the office of Attorney King, responsive to a conference or alleged conference that was held in said office. The grounds of the objection are that anything that he might have said under these circumstances was a privileged com munication and such privilege can only be waived by the Defendant; and certainly this witness has no power to waive that privilege.” Appellant did not attempt to prove the existence of the attorney-client privilege, and the court overruled the objection. (R. 656). 12 Mrs. Butler then told the jury that Reverend Wells had explained the conditions under which he felt that he had received his subpoena. (R. 655). “. . . Rev. Wells indicated to them [those present] to do just what Miss Holtzman had advised them before he got there.” (R. 657). Attorney King represented Reverend Wells in two pending matters—a recent court matter in Albany and a Marine Base administration matter. (R. 662). Reverend Wells on this day came to the office, asked for Attorney King and after learning that he was not in just went on into the other office (where the other people were). (R. 665). Miss Elizabeth Holtzman, a law student and law clerk, after advising that the gathering began about 4:30 and the doors between the two offices were open was asked on p. 684: “Q. Would you tell us the subject-matter of your conversation to the group?” and the following objection was made; “Now, if Your Honor pleases, I would object to any information being elicited from this witness with reference to any discussion or any talk or communica tion that she might have had with [114] persons in the office of Attorney King. The basis for the objection is that this would be privileged matter and such privilege would belong to those persons who were present; and certainly she is in no position to waive the privilege of others.” Appellant did not attempt to lay an evidentiary foundation for the objection; the court overruled the objection, and the witness answered: 13 “A. Well, the subject matter of my conversation was the structure and function of the grand jury.” (R. 686). Appellant Wells when testifying said he never made appointments with Attorney King. On this particular afternoon he didn’t think he had heard that a group was meeting in C. B. King’s office. He went to the attorney’s office to see him about personal business (R. 753)—Attor ney King had represented him on the base where he works and Rev. Wells had just gotten out of jail. (R. 745; 749; 750). He definitely did not go to Attorney King’s office to attend any meeting. (R. 765). When he got into Attorney King’s office, Rev. Wells saw some people in Attorney King’s private office; and he just walked into the private office and spoke to one or two or them. (R. 754). B. THE LAW APPLIED TO THE EVIDENCE- REV. WELLS. “ (1) Where legal advice of any kind is sought (2) from a professional legal adviser in his capacity as such, (3) the communications relating to that purpose, (4) made in confidence (5) hy the client, (6) are at his instance permanently protected (7) from disclosure hy himself or hy the legal adviser, (8) except the protection he waived.” 8 Wigmore, Evidence (McNaughton rev. 1961) 554. And as appellant contends, “it has never been questioned that the privilege protects communication to the attorney’s clerks and his other agents (including stenographers) for rendering his services.” ibid., p. 583. 14 Appellant, however, neglects to point out that the burden of showing that the relation giving rise to the attorney-client privilege existed, is on the person who invokes the privilege, United States v. Kovel, 296 F.2d 918, 923 (2d Cir., 1961); and that “the mere relation of attorney and client does not, ipso facto, establish the principle. If the circumstances do not imply confidentiality to a com munication between the client and his attorney privilege does not attach . . Cajritz v. Koslow, 167 F.2d 749, 751 (D.C. Cir., 1948). The appellant’s own testimony best demonstrates that it was never his contention that he went to the office of Attorney C. B. King for legal advice concerning appearing before the federal grand jury. In fact not only did appel lant by his own testimony deny seeking legal advice about the grand jury, but appellant further testified that he got no legal advice. Appellant now asks this court to forget his contention that he got no legal advice and invoke the attorney-client privilege to exclude testimony of the legal advice he didn’t get. Clearly, even forgetting the incon sistency between Mrs. Butler’s, Miss Holtzman’s and appellant’s trial testimony, the evidence in this case does not establish circumstances implying confidentiality. Going further and assuming that appellant had at tempted to establish the attorney-client relation by evi dence, appellee could have shown the presence of Edward Bryant, Jr., who was just told by Robert Thomas to be in Attorney C. B. King’s office for a meeting (R. 916) and was not there seeking legal advice from Attorney King or his law clerk. Upon such a showing the relation of 15 attorney-client and the privilege flowing therefrom would disappear for . . the presence of a third person (other than the agent of either client or attorney) generally rebuts the presumption of confidentiality . . Cafritz v. Koslow, supra. Clearly there is no basis for appellant’s assertion of the attorney-client privilege. IV. THE JURY LIST FROM WHICH THE GRAND AND PETIT JURIES WHICH INDICTED AND TRIED APPELLANTS, WERE SELECTED, WAS COMPOSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1957 AND THE DECISIONS OF THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES. The jury list in question is the same jury list challenged by the appellant in Rabinowitz v. United States, Fifth Circuit, No. 21,256, already briefed and argued before this court. We agree with appellants that tKis court may take judicial notice of its own records. Brief for Appellants p. 5. The evidence which appellant rely upon in challenging the jury composition was adduced on October 3, 1963. (R. 99). On October 14, 1963—almost two weeks later—the hearing on the identical question in the Rabinowitz case was held. (R. 141, Rabinowitz). Consequently all counsel in Rabinowitz had the opportunity to benefit from the initial exploration by Appellants on the jury composition issue, and the Rabinowitz record is naturally more com plete. Since the Rabinowitz record contains more, appellee 16 with the hope that it meets the court’s approval asks this court to consider the Rabinowitz record. As was said in Appellee’s Brief in Rabinowitz: 1. The Evidence Adduced Before the Trial Court. “The Macon Division, Middle District of Georgia,, comprises the counties of: Baldwin, Bibb, Bleckley, Butts, Crawford, Hancock, Houston, Jasper, Jones, Lamar, Monroe, Peach, Pu laski, Putnam, Twiggs, Upson, Washington, and Wil kinson. 28 U.S.C. 90(b) (2). a. The 1959 Jury List— “In 1959, William P. Simmons, a Republican and out standing Georgia citizen and businessman whose home is Macon, was first appointed Jury Commissioner for the seventy (70) counties of the Middle District of Georgia. John P. Cowart—Assistant United States Attorney from March 12, 1934, United States Attorney from February 6, 1945, and Clerk from December 1, 1952—and Jury Com missioner Simmons by direction of the court undertook to revise the jury box for each of the seven divisions of the Middle District of Georgia. (R. 181-182, 216, 227). “The first indoctrination Commissioner Simmons had was from the Judge (W. A. Bootle); he instructed Mr. Simmons about his duties and responsibilities. From the Judge or the Clerk, Mr. Simmons received a large mimeo graphed publication. (R. 184). This publication, a manual from the Administrative Office of the Courts, was also used by the Clerk. (R. 228). Mr. Simmons and Mr. Cowart 17 became familiar with the jury qualifications set forth in the Civil Rights Act of 1957. (R. 185, 227). “In revising the Macon Division jury list, the Commis sioner and the Clerk began with the existing prior jury list—1953—and removed from that list the names of those who had moved, were deceased, mentally infirm or physi cally not able to serve. (R. 182, 230). After names were removed, about 1,000 names were left from the 2205 names on the 1953 jury list. (R. 220-221, 238). “Mr. Simmons as President, Southern Crate and Veneer Company, was traveling extensively throughout the Macon and other divisions. (R. 216). In securing names of prospective jurors he didn’t write to anybody asking them to provide a list of jurors, nor go and say, ‘give me a list of jurors’ to anybody. Commissioner Simmons, carrying a little book and pad of paper, made inquiries in all the counties and wrote down the names that he secured. (R. 194). Some year and a half or two years ago, thinking he was through with his work as Jury Commissioner, Mr. Simmons threw out his file. (R. 184). Because of this it is difficult to recall specific instances and people. (R. 200). He inquired specifically for the names of Negroes who could serve on the jury (R. 205), recalled asking a few Negroes for names (R. 192-193), and in every instance where he talked to a white person, remembered that he suggested that the white person give him the names of competent Negro jurors. (R. 196). “John Cowart sent his deputy clerk, Walter Doyle, into each of the counties including those in the Macon Division to secure names. (R. 230). Mr. Doyle went first to each 18 of the county courthouses and spoke to the Clerk of the Court, the Ordinary, the Sheriff, Tax Officers and people who worked in those offices. These people in his judg ment knew the people in each community better than anyone else. (R. 260). Mr. Doyle did not talk to Negroes about prospective jurors, but did ask each person contacted to give him all of the names they could of prospective Negro jurors. (R. 261). The names secured by Deputy Clerk Doyle were turned over to Clerk Cowart. “Mr. Cowart, in addition to sending his deputy clerk into the counties, wrote a good many letters to people. He knows a lot of people in the counties of the Macon Division and acquired probably more names in Macon than either Mr. Doyle or Mr. Simmons. Mr. Cowart used the telephone book some and talked to Negroes as well as white persons. He had a number of sources from whom he got names. (R. 230-232). “Including the 1,000 names from the old 1953 list and the new names they had acquired, Clerk Cowart and / Commissioner Simmons sent out between four and five ; | thousand jury questionnaires to people in the Macon Division. (R. 237). The Clerk did not even have an idea of how many questionnaires went to Negroes. (R. 239). On the questionnaire, one of thirteen items to be filled out pertained to the individual’s race. (D-2). “A population census table was used for only one thing—to prorate jurors according to counties and not in any other manner. (R. 259). “Neither Commissioner Simmons, Clerk Cowart nor Deputy Clerk Doyle had any preconceived notion of how 19 many of the jurors should be Negroes. (R. 186, 241, 258, 266). “From the 2,500-3,000 jury questionnaires that were returned—all of which are on file in the Clerk’s office and were available to defense counsel—the Commissioner and the Clerk selected 1,985 names. (R. 237, 239). No calculation has been made by either the Commissioner or the Clerk of how many Negroes were selected. (R. 183, 225, 237). “Neither Mr. Cowart nor Mr. Simmons, as defense counsel has conceded (Appendix 104, Statement by Mr. Rabinowitz), systematically or intentionally excluded Negroes in selecting the 1,985 names. (R. 187, 259). They did look at and use the race designation on the jury questionnaire to make sure that Negroes were included, but they had no particular number in mind. (R. 186, 188, 241). The only object was ‘. . . to get qualified Negroes it was rather hard to do . . . because they (Negroes) are just like women; they don’t want to be in the box and they don’t want to serve’. (R. 241, Cowart). Mr. Cowart and Mr. Simmons ‘attempted to be sure that all factions and groups within the community were represented, occupation-wise, sex and racially wise, but without at tempting to measure it by the population precisely or to have any given percentage represented by any vocational or occupational group or by race or sex’. (R. 187, Simmons). “Using the race information on the 1959 jury question naire forms as a source, the United States Attorney had the following information about the 1959 jury list of the Macon Division prepared for this case: 20 County No. of Jurors No. of Nej Baldwin 137 8 Bibb 666 36 Bleckley 72 2 Butts 58 2 Crawford 47 5 Hancock 64 3 Houston 99 7 Jasper 57 4 Jones 67 5 Lamar 84 7 Monroe 70 5 Peach 123 8 Pulaski 58 3 Putnam 61 4 Twiggs 37 1 Upson 130 6 Washington 95 6 Wilkinson 60 5 Total 1,985 117 Five jurors did not indicate race. (R. 315-316). These figures indicate 5.9% of the names on the 1959 jury list are those of Negroes. “The record does not show how many Negroes or whites are qualified for jury service. b. The 1953 Jury List. “The 1953 jury revision was in progress when John Cowart became Clerk. 1,897 names were on the 1953 list. In 1954 after the Georgia Legislature made women eligible for jury service (U. S. District Court jurors were then 21 governed by state qualifications), the names of 308 women were added to the 1953 list. (R. 220-221). “On the original 1953 jury list, which is kept in the Clerk’s office and is available to and frequently used by the public, there are C’s made with a red crayon by the names of 40 jurors. (R. 249, 285-288). The entire jury list is typewritten. (R. 257). The Clerk keeps a copy for a check list and does not mark on the original. (R. 225). In preparing defendant’s affidavit in support of this ground of the motion, Attorney Witt assumed that all Negroes on the 1953 jury list had C’s by their names. (R. 224, Rabinowitz). The defendant’s attorney, however, stated that was not the defendant’s contention. (R. 222- 223). There is no record in the Clerk’s office to show how many of the 1953 jurors were Negro. (R. 225). The 1953 jury questionnaire forms have been destroyed. (R. 289). John Cowart, Clerk, identified the names of 22 jurors on the 1953 list who are Negroes and do not have red C’s by their names. (R. 251-257). Using the race in formation on the 1959 accepted and rejected jury question naire forms for comparison, the secretary to the United States Attorney found an additional 97 Negro names with out red C’s by their names. (R. 285-287). It is not possible to say how many more Negroes there might be on the 1953 list. (R. 288, 291). c. Pre-1953 Jury Lists. “No evidence was introduced concerning the compila tion of jury lists prior to 1953. 22 d. Selecting Grand and Petit Juries. “The 1,985 names are placed and remain in a jury box. The Court goes into open court, the jury box is opened, and the judge picks name slips (containing only name, age, occupation and address) from the jury box, handing them in the order picked to a Marshal, who in turn hands each name to a typist. After the typist has prepared the jury list, the name slips are placed in a sealed envelope which is marked to be opened two years from date, and the sealed envelope is placed in the jury box. (R. 246). e. The Court in Overruling Defendant’s Motion Stated: “The Court: All right. I am going to overrule this motion. The Wiman case pays some considerable attention to percentages, but there are other factors in the Wiman case in addition to percentages, and there are differences in the grand jury system of selection and the result and the percentages relating thereto in this case and in the Wiman case. “Now just how far the Courts may go in the future in looking at certain percentages and saying that will do that won’t, and how much emphasis they are go ing to pay to the matter of Negroes and Whites and whether that is the controlling [590] element in the percentages and in the ratio of representation on the list I can’t say but I am satisfied, as counsel very com- mendably concedes here, that there was no intentional discrimination on the part of the Jury Commissioners in this District. And while that is not controlling in this case it is a factor of considerable importance. 23 “There are, perhaps, some practical difficulties in selecting juries. For instance, in this case I don’t know now how many questionnaires were sent out to either White or Negroes. I don’t know what the answers were to those questionnaires. I don’t know how many Whites or many Negroes said ‘please don’t put me on the list, please excuse me, my job will interfere’, how many of them expressed a desire to serve, how many expressed an unwillingness to serve. “I may say this, that this jury list will be revised from time to time. If the Negroes in this district want to serve they can cooperate by giving to the Jury Commissioners some reliable information about themselves so that they can receive beyond any per- adventure of a doubt all consideration that they are entitled to receive. But that is a matter for the future. “Taking this case as the facts present it and as the law reads, I think I can not do anything except overrule this motion. “Now, do you have another one, perhaps a short one? And I may just add to what I have been say ing, I have heard a good bit of evidence about school teachers. That might be a good [591] place to go for information, probably would be, but it is a mighty bad place to go to get a juror. The school teachers are so busy that they will offer an excuse if you happen to get one and he is summoned to court to serve. I don’t doubt that they have an excuse. They ivant to go back to the class room. I have had that ex perience over and over and, of course, their excuse would generally be honored if you had enough jurors to serve without them.” (R. 293-294) Emphasis added). f. Statistical Information—1960 Census. “Neither the Clerk nor the Jury Commissioner used the 1960 census for any purpose other than the apportion ment of the total number of jurors by counties. Neverthe less, in looking at the Macon Division realistically and in evaluating the evidence on jury selection, one must realize that according to the 1960 census and in particular ex cerpts therefrom—Appendix B, the Macon Division is situated in the State of Georgia, a State whose people have completed the following median years of education: The eighteen (18) Macon Division counties contain 373,594 people of whom 39% are non-white. Of the total number, „~204,321 are over 21 and 35% of those are non-white. I 38.9% of the white and 11.6% of the non-white persons 25 J years and older have completed four years of high school | or more. “Even though its citizens are constantly working to improve the economic status of all, we must realize that in 1960 the Macon Division on an individual county for county basis had a low of 20.6%, high of 67.2% and average of 45.4% families whose total income was under $3,000. All persons, including both white and non-white, had a county by county median individual income ranging from a county high of $3,418 to a low of $1,537, whereas just the non-white individual income ranged from a county high of only $1,036 to a low $657. All families—white and non-white—including non-related individuals, had a Urban Rural (a) White persons 11.7 years (b) Non-white persons 6.8 8.8 years 5.1 25 median income by county ranging from $5,051 to $1,907, whereas the same for non-whites alone ranged from only $2,174 to $1,204. “It was in this State and Division—where all people have less than a desired education and small incomes, where the Negro population has the smallest share of edu cation and income, and where the same comparative dif ferences exist in all areas of life—that the jury box in question was composed. “2. The Law. a. Statutory Law on Selection of Federal Jurors. “Congress, as of 1959, had prescribed the following criteria for federal jurors: 28 U.S.C. 1861. Qualifications of Federal jurors: “Any citizen of the United States who has at tained the age of twenty-one years and who has re sided for a period of one year within the judicial dis trict, is competent to serve as a grand or petit juror unless— “ (1) He has been convicted in a State or Federal court of record of a crime punishable by imprisonment for more than one year and his civil rights have not been restored by pardon or amnesty. “ (2) He is unable to read, write, speak, and understand the English language. “ (3) He is incapable, by reason of mental or physical infirmities to render efficient jury service. As amended Sept. 9, 1957, Pub. L. 85-315, Part V, § 152, 71 Stat. 638.” 26 28 U.S.C. 1862. Exemptions: “The following persons shall be exempt from jury- service: “ (1) Members in active service in the armed forces of the United States. “ (2) Members of the Fire or Police depart ments of any State, District, Territory, Possession or subdivision thereof. “ (3) Public officers in the executive, legisla tive or judicial branches of the government of the United States, or any State, District, Territory, or Possession or subdivision thereof who are actively engaged in the performance of official duties.’' 28 U.S.C. 1863. Exclusion or excuse from service: “ (a) A district judge for good cause may ex cuse from jury service any person called as a juror. “ (b) Any class or group of persons may, for . the public interest, be excluded from the jury panel or excused from service as jurors by order of the district judge based on a finding that such jury service would entail undue hardship, extreme in convenience or serious obstruction or delay in the fair and impartial administration of justice. “ (c) No citizen shall be excluded from service as grand or petit juror in any court of the United States on account of race or color.” and the following manner of drawing the names of grand and petit jurors: 27 28 U.S.C. 1864. Manner of drawing; jury commis sioners and their compensation: “The names of grand and petit jurors shall be publicly drawn from a box containing the names of not less than three hundred qualified persons at the time of each drawing. “The jury box shall from time to time be refilled by the clerk of court, or his deputy, and a jury com missioner, appointed by the court. “Such jury commissioner shall be a citizen of good standing, residing in the district and a well known member of the principal political party in the district, opposing that to which the clerk, or his deputy then acting, may belong. He shall receive $5 per day for each day necessarily employed in the performance of his duties. “The jury commissioner and the clerk, or his deputy, shall alternately place one name in the jury box without reference to party affiliations, until the box shall contain at least 300 names or such larger number as the court determines. “This section shall not apply to the District of Columbia.” “In amending § 1861-4 in 1957 to eliminate state jury qualifications from federal jurors, those who opposed the [Church] amendment as enacted contended that the pro vision does not go far enough: “As Senator Douglas stated: ‘I may say that there are certain weaknesses in the Church amendment. Although it removes the 28 disqualification that those who are incompetent to serve on State grand and petit juries are incompetent to serve on Federal juries it is still a fact that the general procedure practice of selecting Federal juries will not be changed in all probability. Nothing in the amendment compels an affirmative change in the practice of selecting juries, so that the likelihood is that few Negroes will actually be called to serve on juries.’ (Emphasis added). 103 Cong. Rec. 13250. “Senator Clark went a step further and suggested the affirmative action that was needed, Id., p. 13290: ‘It should require the nondiscriminatory selection of jurors in proportion to the, population within the district, without discrimination on account of race or color.’ (Emphasis added). and on pp. 13290-13291: ‘I suggest that unless strong mandatory language is written into the proposed jury-trial amendment, preferably in connection with section 1864, we shall have done nothing more than to remove a qualifica tion. That is good, but unless we put in place of that qualification a requirement for the equitable, fair, and just selection of jurors in proportion to their repre sentation throughout the district, without concern for race or color, I fear that we shall have done very little to help the situation.’ (Emphasis added). “Congress not only failed to include strong mandatory language and a requirement for affirmative action, but as indicated failed through its debates to even indicate that it had any such intent. Chance v. United. States, 322 F.2d 29 201 (5th Cir., 1963); United States v. Greenberg, 200 F. Supp. 382, 395 (S.D. N.Y. 1961). b. Decisions of Federal Courts on State Jury Com position Questions. ( 1 ) T h e S u p r e m e C o u r t. “The Supreme Court of the United States beginning in 1879—Strauder v. West Virginia, 100 U.S. 308 and con tinuing through recent decisions such as Arnold and Dixon v. North Carolina, 32 U.S.L. Week. 4340 (U.S. Apr. 6, 1964), in numerous cases has considered the deprivation of the constitutional rights of Negro petitioners arising from the exclusion of Negroes from state grand and petit juries. “In Strauder v. West Virginia, supra, in considering the case of a colored man and recently emancipated slave who in 1874 having been indicted, tried, convicted and sentenced for murder, complained that by state law only white men could be grand and petit jurors, the Supreme Court ‘observed that the first of these questions is not whether a colored man, when an indictment has been pre ferred against him, has a right to a grand or petit jury composed in whole or in part of persons of his own race or color, but it is whether, in the composition or selection of jurors by whom he is to be indicted or tried, all per sons of his race or color may be excluded by law, solely because of their race or color, so that by no possibility can any colored man sit upon the jury.’ (page 305, supra). The Court reviewed the history of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment and concluded that ‘its aim was against discrimination because of race or color. As we 30 have said more than once, its design was to protect an emancipated race, and to strike down all possible legal discriminations against those who belong to it.’ Quoting further from the Slaughter-House cases, 16 Wall. 36, ‘In giving construction to any of these articles [amendments], it is necessary to keep the main purpose steadily in view. It is so clearly a provision for that race and that emer gency, that a strong case would be necessary for its ap plication to any other.’ (page 310, supra). And the Court decided ‘Any State action that denies this immunity to a colored man is in conflict with the Constitution,’ con cluded the jury selection law discriminates against Ne groes because of color and reversed in favor of petitioner, (page 310, supra). “Fifty-five years later the Supreme Court in Norris v. Alabama, 1934, 294 U.S. 587, 589, was still saying: ‘Whenever by any action of a State, whether through its legislature, through its courts, or through its executive or administrative officers, all persons of the African race are excluded, solely because of their race or color, from serving as grand jurors in the criminal prosecution of a person of the African race,, the equal protection of the laws is denied to him, con trary to the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. Strauder v. West Virginia, 100 U. S. 303; Neal v. Delaware, 103 U. S. 370, 397; Gibson v. Mississippi, 162 U. S. 565. This statement was re peated in the same terms in Rogers v. Alabama, 192 U. S. 226, 231, and again in Martin v. Texas, 200 U. S. 316, 319.’ 31 “And today the principle is the same. Hernandez v. Texas, 347 U.S. 475 (1954); Arnold and Dixon v. North Carolina, supra. “In the application of this basic constitutional principle the Court has always been confronted with the question of what it considers to be a prima facie evidentiary showing of purposeful exclusion because of race. The evidence set forth in each of the following cases where the court decided there was a prima facie showing of purposeful racial ex clusion, best illustrates what the Supreme Court deems to be a sufficient prima facie showing: Norris v. Alabama, supra, where the uncontradicted testimony of men 50 to 76 years old showed that with in their memory no Negro had served on any grand or petit jury in the county in which the defendant was indicted. Smith v. Texas, 311 U.S. 128 (1940). From 1931 through 1938 of 384 grand jurors, 5 were Negroes; of 512 persons summoned for grand jury only 18 were Negro; the custom being to take the first 12 names of a 16 name list, of those 18 the names of' 13 appeared last on the 16 name list; of the other five, 4 were num bered between 13 and 16 and one was numbered 6; only 5 Negroes ever served, one on each of 5 out of 32 grand juries; of those 5 the same individual served 3 times, so only 3 different individuals served; no Negroes were on petitioner’s grand jury; the jury com missioners admitted they did not select any Negroes. Hill v. Texas, 316 U.S. 400 (1941). Two of the three jury commissioners whose duty it was to sum mon 16 men, of whom 12 are selected for grand jury, 32 said they summoned white men known by them. An Assistant District Attorney who had lived in Dallas County 27 or 28 years and served as judge 16 years said he never knew of a Negro being called to serve on a grand jury. Avery v. Georgia, 345 U.S. 559 (1953). No Negroes were on the jury panel. The evidence showed that in the jury box names of qualified Negro jurors were on yellow tickets and of white qualified jurors were on white tickets. Pierre v. Louisiana, 306 U.S. 354 (1938). The evi dence showed the general venire to contain no Negro names, and one-third of the population was Negro. Hernandez v. Texas, 347 U.S. 475 (1954). It was stipulated that Tor the past twenty-five years there is no record of any person with a Mexican or Latin American name having served on a jury commission, grand jury or petit jury in Jackson County’. Eubanks v. Louisiana, 356 U.S. 584 (1957). An all-white jury indicted the Negro defendant. Accord ing to the evidence only one Negro had ever been picked for grand jury duty within memory. Arnold and Dixon v. North Carolina, supra. The clerk of the trial court testified that ‘. . . in his 24 years as clerk he could remember only one Negro serving on a grand jury, another having been selected but excused’. “In explaining the reasoning that supports such de cisions, it was stated: ‘Our directions that indictments be quashed when Negroes, although numerous in the com munity, were excluded from grand jury lists have been 33 based on the theory that their continual exclusion indicated discrimination and not on the theory that racial groups must be recognized. Norris v. Alabama, supra; Hill v. Texas, supra; Smith v. Texas, supra. The mere fact of in equality in the number selected does not in itself show discrimination. . .’. Akins v. Texas, 325 U.S. 398 (1944). (Emphasis added). “Percentage figures alone will not establish that Negroes or any other cognizable class has been left off of a jury panel to such an extent as to prima facie establish intentional and systematic exclusion, Cassell v. Texas, 339 U.S. 282, 286 (1949), for ‘Fairness in selection has never been held to require proportional representation of races upon a jury. Virginia v. Rives, 100 U.S. 313, 322-323; Thomas v. Texas, 212 U.S. 278, 282;’ Akins v. Texas, supra. “The constitutional prohibition of purposeful exclusion has also been expanded to mean that ‘An accused is en titled to have charges against him considered by a jury in the selection of which there has been neither [purposeful, limited] inclusion nor exclusion because of race.’ Cassell v. Texas, supra. ( 2 ) D e c i s io n s o f T h is C o u r t o n t h e C o m p o s it io n o f S t a t e J u r ie s . “On March 11, 1964 this court decided in Collins v. Walker, 329 F.2d 100, that there was discrimination against the accused because of his color where instead of present ing his case to an all-white grand jury which was in session at the time of his arrest, the accused was kept in jail for six months at which time the same jury commissioners 34 purposely placed six Negroes on a list of twenty names from which the district judge drew a grand jury of five Negroes and seven whites. The case of the accused was the only case presented to this grand jury. “Before that this court considered the state jury com position question in United States ex rel. Seals v. Wiman, (5th Cir. 1962) 304 F.2d 53, where the evidence showed and the court considered that: ‘(a) The Grand Jury which indicted relator included eighteen persons, none of whom were Negro, ‘(b) The petit jury of twelve persons which tried and convicted relator included no Negroes. ‘(c) From October 5, 1948, through June, 1956, there were twenty-eight grand juries of eighteen per sons each. One Negro sat on each of three grand juries and since January 6, 1953 (relator indicted in 1958 and tried in 1959) no Negro had been on a grand jury. ‘(d) The jury rolls for the county contained the following distribution of names by race and per centage: Total Negro Sept. 30, 1955-Sept. 30, 1956 7,435 120 Oct. 1, 1956-Sept. 30, 1957 7,349 99 Oct. 1, 1957-Sept. 30, 1958 8,433 99 Negro Oct. 1, 1958-Sept. 30, 1959 9,713 109 Percent’ge 32,930 427 1.3% ‘(e) Jury panels for the county contained the following distribution of names by race and percent age: 35 Total Negro :Oct. 3, 1948-July 1, 1949 2,463 40 Oct. 2, 1949-July 1, 1950 2,343 29 Oct. 1, 1950-July 1, 1951 2,467 28 Sept. 30, 1951-July 1, 1952 2,456 16 Oct. 5, 1952-July 1, 1953 2,417 21 Oct. 4, 1953-July 1, 1954 2,401 16 Negro Oct. 3, 1954-July 1, 1955 2,251 29 Percent’ge 16,798 139 0.82% ‘ (f) Prior to 1954 race was indicated on the jury cards but no cards had racial marks after 1956. The Jury Commissioners selected cards from the jury rolls and thereby made up a jury box each time a judge needed a jury box to select a jury from by lot. ‘(g) On the jury roll of approximately 9,000 names, about 600 names were replaced each year. Therefore from the time racial marks were eliminated (after 1956) until the grand jury which indicted re lator was selected, at the most 1200 new names out of 9,713 were added to the jury rolls. In reality the jury rolls were only minutely changed from the time when race was indicated on the jury rolls so that in effect the Jury Commissioners were still discriminat ing because of race.’ “The question T. Whether the all-white grand jury . . . and the all-white petit jury . . . reflected a continuous pattern of discrimination against Negroes . . .’ Id. p. 55, was answered in the affirmative, the Court concluding ‘that the presence of no Negroes on the 18-man grand jury which indicted Seals, and of two Negroes on the venire of 110 persons from which came the petit jury which 36 convicted Seals and condemned him to death was not a mere fortuitous accident but was the result of systematic exclusion of Negroes from the jury rolls.’ Id. p. 67. c. Decisions on the Composition of Federal Juries. ( 1 ) T h e S u p r e m e C o u r t . “ ‘The deliberate selection of (all women) jurors from the membership of (only one) particular private organiza tions definitely does not conform to the traditional re quirements of jury trial . . said the Court in comment ing upon but not deciding one of the early challenges to the composition of a federal jury. Glosser v. United States, 315 U.S. 60, 86 (1942). “Dealing exclusively with a challenge to a federal jury was the case of Thiel v. Southern Pacific Co., 328 U.S. 217 (1945). There ‘both the clerk of the court and the jury commissioner testified that they deliberately and inten tionally excluded from, the jury lists all persons who work for a daily wage’. Id. p. 221. In deciding that ‘the evil lies in the admitted wholesale exclusion of a large class of wage earners in disregard of the high standards of jury selection,’ Id. at 225, the Supreme Court stated: ‘The American tradition of trial by jury, consid ered in connection with either criminal or civil pro ceedings, necessarily contemplates an impartial jury drawn from a cross-section of the community. Smith v. Texas, 311 U.S. 128, 130; Glasser v. United States, 316 U.S. 60, 85. This does not mean, of course, that every jury must contain representatives of all the economic, social, religious, racial, political and geo graphical groups of the community; frequently such 37 complete representation would be impossible. But it does mean that prospective jurors shall be selected by court officials without systematic and intentional ex clusion of any of these groups. Recognition must be given to the fact that those eligible for jury service are to be found in every stratum of society. Jury competence is an individual rather than a group or class matter. That fact lies at the very heart of the jury system. To disregard it is to open the door to class distinctions and discriminations which are ab horrent to the democratic ideals of trial by jury. ‘The choice of the means by which unlawful dis tinctions and discriminations are to be avoided rests largely in the sound discretion of the trial courts and their officers.’ Id. at 220. “Bottoming its decision on Thiel v. Southern Pacific Co., supra, a reversal was ordered in Ballard v. United States, 329 U.S. 187 (1946), because women were excluded from grand and petit federal juries, the court saying again, ‘The evil lies in the admitted exclusion of an eligible class or group in the community in disregard of the prescribed standards of jury selection’. Id. at 195. ‘The gist of our ruling is contained . . .’ in the portion of Thiel quoted in the preceding paragraph of this brief. Id. at 192. And for the first time the Court held specifically that ‘. . . re versible error does not depend on a showing of prejudice in an individual case’. Id. at 195. “Like the cases pertaining to state juries, the Supreme Court as to federal jury questions requires evidence of systematic and intentional exclusion. 38 ( 2 ) T h e C ir c u it C o u r t s o f A p p e a l . “Appellant and many others have urged upon this and other courts that Thiel should be interpreted like it was interpreted by the Third Circuit, to mean that more is re quired of federal jury officials than that they not inten tionally and systematically exclude any groups. They de sire that Thiel also mean, as the Third Circuit Court stated (we think erroneously), that what is required is that jury officials not exclude “through neglect as well as through intentional conduct”. Dow v. Carnegie-Illinois Steel Cor poration, 224 F.2d 414 (3rd Cir., 1955). Such an argu ment, of course, is founded upon the theory that federal jury officials are guided affirmatively, as well as neg atively, in their selection of jurors. “The statutes (in 1955 and now) provide no affirma tive requirements of the officials in gathering names for the jury box. . . . In fact, some standard system to be fol lowed was advocated by certain of the senators in the debates over the Civil Rights Act of 1957, and the criticism of the present system advanced was that there was no such requirement. See Congressional Record, Vol. 103, Pt. 10. The Congress did not, however, adopt these argu ments and the law as it now stands places the officials under no mandatory or positive commands; they are, on the contrary, controlled by one negative requirement: they may not discriminate, directly or indirectly.” (Em phasis added). Chance v. United States, 322 F.2d 201, 205 (5th Cir., 1963). 39 “This court also answered the contention that accord ing to Thiel exclusion results when juries do not represent £a literal cross-section, of the community’ by stating: ‘At the most, the notion of a jury as a cross-sec tion of the community is a conceptual one. A literal cross-section is neither required nor desired. Those persons who have been convicted of a crime and not pardoned, those not competent in the English language, and those mentally or physically infirm are disquali fied under 18 U.S.C.A. § 1861. Many people and classes are granted exemptions and exclusions under 28 U.S.C.A. §§ 1862, 1863. In many sections of this coun try, a Spanish-speaking community is predominant. An English-speaking jury is certainly not a “cross-section” of such a community.’ Chance v. United States, supra, Id. at 204. d. The Jury System As Envisioned by the Judicial Conference and the Justice Department. “Among the twenty-one recommendations concerning the selection of jurors and operation of the jury system, made by a committee of district judges and approved by the Judicial Conference of the United States in 1960, were the following which are significant to our case: T. In order that grand and petit jurors who serve in United States district courts may be truly representative of the community, the sources from which they are selected should include all economic and social groups of the community. The jury list should represent as high a degree of intelligence, mo rality, integrity, and common sense as possible. ‘II. The choice of specific sources from which names of prospective jurors are selected must be en- 40 trusted to the clerk and jury commissioner, acting under the direction of the district judge, but should be controlled by the following considerations: (1) the sources should be coordinated to include all groups in the community; (2) economic and social status in cluding race and color should be considered for the sole purpose of preventing discrimination or quota selection; . . The Jury System in the Federal Courts, 26 F.R.D. 409, 421. “After receiving the endorsement of the Judicial Con ference of the United States at its September, 1962, meet ing a draft bill ‘to improve and strengthen as well as to provide uniformity in the jury selection process,’ was transmitted to the Congress on January 25, 1963, by the Honorable Robert F. Kennedy, Attorney General. Ap pendix C. The proposed bill provides: ‘The sources of the names and the methods to be used by the jury com mission in selecting the names of persons who may be called for grand or petit jury service shall be as directed by the chief judge. The procedures employed by the jury commission in selecting the names of qualified persons to be placed in the jury box shall not systematically or deliberately exclude any group from the jury panel on account of race, sex, political or religious affiliation, or economic or social status. . . .’ Id. § 1864(b). e. Burden of Proof. “It is, of course, incumbent on the defendant as the moving party to offer distinct evidence in support of its motions. Where a defendant submits formal affidavits and there is no actual or implied stipulation by the prosecution 41 that affidavits may be accepted as proof, it is still incum bent on the defendant to produce distinct evidence. De fendant’s formal affidavits alone, even though in some in stances uncontradicted, are not enough. Smith v. Missis sippi, 162 U.S. 592; Tarrance v. Florida, 188 U.S. 519; cf. Brownfield v. South Carolina, 189 U.S. 426; Glasser v. United States, 315 U.S. 60, 87 (1941). “Proportions are meaningless when the evidence does not show how many were qualified for jury duty. Hoyt v. Florida, 368 U.S. 57, 68 (1961). 3. THE LAW APPLIED TO OUR CASE. “The Jury Commissioner and the Clerk in 1959 had the task of selecting 1,985 jurors from the 204,321 people over 21 in the Macon Division—the difficult job of navigating an uncharted sea to find a ship containing less than 1% (.9%) of the population. And the Appellant complains of: —What was done —What was not done “What did they do? The evidence shows clearly that having no affirmative statutory guides or duties, the Jury Commissioner and the Clerk using their best judgment and with no idea of how many persons—male, female, Ne gro, white, rich, poor or otherwise—should be included on the jury, went about securing names of prospective jurors from many varied sources throughout the division. They got white and Negro names from white people and. recalled 42 specifically asking Negroes for names of Negroes. Having no idea of how many names by race, job or any other de scription, they had, questionnaires were next mailed to between four and five thousand persons in the Macon Divi sion. 2,500-3,000 questionnaires came back. On the ques tionnaire was a place to indicate race—using the race designation only to make sure that Negroes were included and without any particular number of Negroes or whites in mind, 1,985 names were selected from the questionnaires. Four years later the Clerk and Commissioner still did not know how many of the 1,985 names were of Negroes. Re search for this case by the United States Attorney’s office first established that of the 1,985 names, 117 or 5.9% were Negro. “Appellant, though contending . . . that there was a historical pattern of jury racial discrimination, proved nothing. “The evidence shows . . . that the Jury Commissioner and the Clerk did not either in 1959 or years gone by purposely discriminate against Negroes in the selection of jurors. “And now on appeal the appellant noticing the testi mony of the Jury Commissioner: ‘A. . . . I undoubtedly recited the qualifications to them [persons furnishing prospective Negro jurors], including the statutory qualifications plus our desire here to have jurors of integrity and good character and intelligence.’ (R. 96, Simmons), infers that this testimony indicates that contrary to the 1957 amendment to the Civil Rights Act, which eliminated 43 state jury qualifications, the jury commissioner and clerk in searching for jurors of integrity, good character and in telligence have been guided solely by the Georgia law’s requirement to select ‘upright and intelligent citizens to serve as jurors.’ This is connected by argument to the selection of persons able to understand the cases being tried in the courtroom, and then the desire to have good jurors is alleged to be unconstitutional. To the contrary— ‘The jury list should represent as high a degree of intelligence, morality, integrity and common sense as possible.” The Jury System in the Federal Courts, supra, p. 421. “The evidence also does not show purposeful inclusion of only a few Negroes because of race. “Failing to find either the purposeful exclusion or in tentional inclusion because of race that is rightly con demned as unconstitutional, Appellant takes another tack and says, wait—what the commissioner and clerk failed to do, is the real constitutional complaint. The jury com missioner and the clerk, appellant thinks, should have used other selection methods and thereby insured an actual numerical cross-section of the community. Given the task of selecting 666 federal jurors from a Bibb County popu lation of approximately 85,000 persons over 21, undoubt edly each of appellant’s attorneys, appellee’s attorneys, the Judges on this Honorable Court and those who read this brief would choose a different manner and method of selection. Here the jury officials acted not unconstitu tionally, but merely differently from the way appellant personally thinks they should have acted. * * * 44 “So it is that the United States respectfully submits that an application of the statutory and case law to the facts shows clearly that: The jury commissioner and the clerk having no affirmative statutory duties, complied fully with 28 U.S.C. 1861-4. In the total absence of evidence of continual, his torical exclusion of Negroes from the jury because of race and in view of the clear evidentiary showing that the commissioner and the clerk were not moti vated by race to either purposely include or exclude Negroes, there is no deprivation of Appellant’s con stitutional privilege “to have charges against him (her in this case) considered by a jury in the selec tion of which there has been neither inclusion nor ex clusion because of race.” Cassell v. Texas, supra. “It having never been the law that a jury must rep resent a literal, true cross-section of the community’s economic, social, religious, racial, political and geo graphical groups, Appellant in the absence of syste matic and intentional exclusion of any of these groups, has not had her constitutional rights violated.” Appellants Jackson, Thomas, Wells, King and Chatmon, like Appellant Joni Rabinowitz, have not had their consti tutional rights violated. 45 V. CONCLUSION. Wherefore it is prayed that the just, legal convictions of the appellants be in all respects affirmed. Respectfully submitted, F loyd M. Buford, United States Attorney, W ilbur D. Owens, J r., Assistant United States Attorney, Attorneys for Appellee. Address: P. O. Box 118, Macon, Georgia. CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE. I, Wilbur D. Owens, Jr., Attorney for the Appellee in the foregoing cause, hereby certify that I have served Mr. Jack Greenberg and Mrs. Constance Baker Motley, 10 Co lumbus Circle, New York, New York, Mr. Donald L. Hollo- well, 859 1/2 Hunter Street, N.W., Atlanta, Georgia, and Mr. C. B. King, 211 South Jackson Street, Albany, Geor gia, Attorneys for Appellants, by mailing such copy to them at their post office address. This the ............. day of December, 1964. ........................................................................................................................................ - ..............5 W ilbur D. Owens, J r., Assistant United States Attorney, Attorney for Appellee. 47 APPENDICES FROM RABINOWITZ “APPENDIX B—Excerpts from 1960 Census. T h e 1 9 6 0 C e n s u s , G -3 , s h o w s : % T o t a l W h it e N o n w h it e N o n w h it e ( 1 ) T h e e n t ir e p o p u la t io n , M a c o n D iv i s io n P o p u la t io n 2 1 a n d o v e r 3 7 3 ,9 5 4 2 2 3 ,5 4 4 1 4 6 ,5 5 3 3 9 2 0 4 ,3 2 1 1 3 2 ,3 3 8 7 1 ,9 8 3 3 5 ( 2 ) F o r t h e e n t ir e S t a t e o f G e o r g ia , t h e 1 9 6 0 C e n s u s , G -3 , T a b le 4 7 s h o w s : ( a ) M e d ia n S c h o o l Y e a r s C o m p le te d — 1 9 6 0 E n t ir e U r b a n R u r a l P o p u la t io n P o p u la t io n P o p u la t io n A l l p e r s o n s 9 .0 1 0 .3 8 .0 W h ite 1 0 .3 1 1 .7 8 .8 N o n w h it e 6 .1 6 .8 5 .1 ( b ) P e r s o n s 2 5 a n d O ld er C o m p le t in g 4 Y e a r s H ig h S c h o o l a n d A b o v e — 1 9 6 0 A ll P e r s o n s 3 2 .9 % W h ite 3 8 .8 % N o n w h it e 11 .6% ( 3 ) T a b le 8 2 — S in c e 1 9 5 5 a l a r g e p e r c e n t a g e o f M a c o n D iv i s io n r e s id e n t s h a d c h a n g e d r e s id e n c e f r o m o n e c o u n t y t o a n o t h e r a n d f r o m o n e s t a t e t o a n o th e r . ( 4 ) T a b le 3 6 T a b le 85 T a b le 8 8 T a b le 86 T a b le 86 T a b le 8 6 T a b le 88 % F a m il ie s T o ta l # T o t a l n o n - A l l f a m i l i e s A l l p e r s o n s N o n - w h i t e A l l n o n - w h it e w ith in c o m e p e r s o n s w h it e p e r s o n s ( w h i t e & n o n - ( w h i t e & n o n - f a m i l i e s & p e r s o n s m e d ia n u n d er $ 3 ,0 0 0 L4 & o ld e r 14 & o ld e r w h it e ) m e d ia n w h it e ) m e a n u n r e la t e d in c o m e e m p lo y e d e m p lo y e d f a m i ly & u n r e l . in c o m e in d iv . in c o m e C o u n ty in d iv id u a l in c o m e B a ld w in 3 3 .5 8 ,7 0 5 3 ,1 6 3 $ 3 ,2 0 6 $ 2 ,0 4 3 $ 2 ,1 7 4 $ 9 21 B ib b 2 7 .8 5 4 ,4 8 0 1 6 ,7 3 3 4 ,2 3 7 3 ,1 6 0 2 ,1 4 3 1 ,0 3 6 B le c k le y 4 7 .7 3 ,4 7 6 7 4 6 2 ,3 1 5 2 ,0 4 1 1 ,2 0 4 7 0 1 B u t t s 4 9 .8 3 ,1 8 2 1 ,3 5 8 2 ,6 9 4 1 ,9 5 1 1 ,7 2 6 70 9 C r a w fo r d 6 0 .8 1 ,7 4 1 9 41 2 ,1 4 0 1 ,5 3 7 1 ,5 3 4 6 7 4 H a n c o c k 6 7 .2 2 ,9 9 2 1 ,9 3 8 1 ,9 0 7 1 ,3 9 4 1 ,4 5 1 6 2 6 H o u s t o n 2 0 .6 1 2 ,4 5 2 2 ,7 9 4 5 ,0 5 1 3 ,4 1 8 1 ,8 1 7 8 5 0 J a s p e r 6 0 .0 2 ,0 6 1 1 ,0 4 3 2 ,1 0 4 1 ,6 6 5 1 ,4 6 6 6 7 4 J o n e s 4 8 .3 2 ,6 8 2 1 ,1 7 4 2 ,8 2 9 1 ,9 2 8 1 ,9 4 8 8 5 6 L a m a r 3 6 .1 3 ,8 9 5 1 ,3 9 1 3 ,5 0 3 2 ,2 8 9 1 ,8 3 6 7 9 6 M o n r o e 4 6 .6 3 ,7 0 1 1 ,6 2 1 2 ,5 4 4 2 ,1 2 1 1 ,7 6 2 8 3 7 P e a c h 4 1 .7 4 ,7 2 9 2 ,5 6 2 2 ,6 1 7 1 ,9 7 1 1 ,4 3 9 7 1 1 P u la s k i 4 8 .1 3 ,0 2 3 1 ,1 4 9 2 ,7 4 9 2 ,1 1 5 1 ,2 3 4 6 5 7 P u tn a m 4 8 .9 2 ,6 4 9 1 ,2 2 6 2 ,7 1 4 2 ,1 6 1 1 ,4 4 2 8 4 9 T w ig g s 5 2 .1 2 ,2 6 0 1 ,2 4 3 2 ,6 6 5 1 ,9 3 4 1 ,9 9 1 8 7 1 U p s o n 2 9 .8 9 ,9 2 7 2 ,4 7 7 3 ,9 5 3 2 ,5 6 9 1 ,6 0 6 8 5 6 W a s h in g t o n 5 5 .8 6 ,3 7 8 3 ,1 6 9 2 ,1 2 3 1 ,6 2 2 1 ,3 5 9 8 42 W ilk in s o n 4 3 .8 2 ,8 9 4 1 ,1 9 4 2 ,9 3 9 2 ,2 1 1 1 ,9 0 3 9 4 0 A v e r a g e 4 5 .4 H ig h 6 7 .2 $ 5 ,0 5 1 $ 3 ,4 1 8 $ 2 ,1 7 4 1 ,0 3 6 L o w 2 0 .6 1 ,9 0 ? 1 ,5 3 7 1 ,2 0 4 6 5 7 T o ta l 1 3 1 ,2 2 ? 4 5 ,9 2 2 49 “APPENDIX C. Department of Justice Proposal for Amending Section 1864, Title 18, United States Code Proposed Amendment A BILL To provide for a jury commission for each United States district court, to regulate its compensation, to pre scribe its duties, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa tives of the United States of America in Congress as sembled, That section 1864 of title 28, of the United States Code is amended to read as follows: 1864. Jury commission: Duties, compensation, and methods of selecting and drawing jurors. ‘(a) Appointment.—A jury commission shall be es tablished in each judicial district, consisting of the clerk of the court and one or more jury commissioners, appointed by the district court. The jury commissioner shall be a citizen of the United States of good character residing in the district of appointment who, at the time of his appoint ment, shall not be a member of the same political party as the clerk of the court or a duly qualified deputy clerk acting for the clerk. If more than one jury commissioner is appointed, each may be designated to serve in one or 50 more of the places \yhere court is held, and the clerk and the jury commissioner so designated shall constitute the jury commission for the part of the district. In the event that a jury commissioner is unable for any reason to per form his duties, another jury commissioner may be ap pointed, as provided herein, to act in his place until he is able to resume his duties. ‘Jury commissioners shall be appointed to serve on a part-time or full-time basis. If in the opinion of the court the efficient operation of the jury system requires the services of a full-time jury commissioner, the court may, with the approval of the Judicial Conference of the United States, appoint one or more full-time jury commissioners. ‘ (b) Duties.—In the performance of all its duties the jury commission shall act under the direction and super vision of the chief judge of the district. ‘The sources of the names and the methods to be used by the jury commission in selecting the names of persons who may be called for grand or petit jury service shall be as directed by the chief judge. The procedures em ployed by the jury commission in selecting the names of qualified persons to be placed in the jury box shall not systematically or deliberately exclude any group from the jury panel on account of race, sex, political or religious affiliation, or economic or social status. In determining whether persons are qualified as jurors under section 1861 of this title, the jury commission shall use questionnaires and such other means as the chief judge may deem ap propriate, including the administering of oaths. 51 ‘The names of jurors shall be publicly drawn by chance from a jury box, wheel or similar device which contains at the commencement of each drawing the names of not less than three hundred qualified persons selected by the jury commission in accordance with the provisions of this subsection. ‘The jury commission shall keep records of the names of persons placed in the jury box, wheel or similar de vice, the questionnaires returned by said persons, the names of the persons who are selected for jury service, the dates of service, and such other appropriate records as the chief judge may direct, all for a period of not less than two years. With the approval of the chief judge, the jury commission may designate deputy clerks and other employees in the office of the clerk of the court to assist the commission in the performance of its duties and to perform under its direction such of the detailed duties of the commission as in the opinion of the chief judge can be assigned to them. ‘(c) Compensation.—Each jury commissioner ap pointed on a part-time basis shall be compensated for his services at the rate of ten dollars per day for each day in which he actually and necessarily is engaged in the performance of his official duties, to be paid upon certif icate of the chief judge of the district. ‘Each jury commissioner appointed on a full-time basis shall receive a salary to be fixed from time to time by the Judicial Conference of the United States at a rate which in the opinion of the Judicial Conference corresponds to that provided by the Classification Act of 1949, as 52 amended, for positions in the executive branch with com parable responsibilities. ‘Each jury commissioner shall receive his traveling and subsistence expenses within the limitations prescribed for clerks of district courts while absent from his des ignated post of duty on official business. ‘(d) Any of the powers or duties conferred upon the chief judge under this section may be delegated by him to another judge of the district: Provided, however, that where part of a district by agreement or order of court is assigned to one particular judge and he custom arily holds court there, as to such part of the district he shall perform the functions and fulfill the duties conferred upon the chief judge in this section. ‘(e) This section shall not apply to the District of Columbia.’ Sec. 2. Section 1865 of such title is amended by striking out the words ‘and may appoint a jury commis sioner for each such place’ in the second sentence of sub section (a) thereof and inserting a period after the word ‘district’ in such sentence. Sec. 3. Each jury commissioner holding office on the effective date of this Act shall continue in office until his successor is duly appointed and qualified. Sec. 4. There are hereby authorized to be appropri ated, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, such sums as may be necessary to carry the provisions of this Act into effect. 53 Sec. 5. The provisions of this Act shall take effect ninety days after the date of approval thereof: Provided, however, that no grand or petit jury sworn prior to the effective date of this Act nor any person called or sum moned for jury service, or whose name is on a jury list or has been placed in a box, wheel, or similar device, prior to that date, shall be ineligible to serve if the procedure by which the jury or the individual juror was selected, called, summoned, or by which his name was listed or placed in a box, wheel, or similar device, was in com pliance with the law in effect at the time of such action. Letter of Transmittal to Vice P resident and Speaker of the H ouse of Representatives Office of the Attorney General Washington, D.C. January 25, 1963 The Speaker House of Representatives, Washington, D.C. Identical Submission to the Vice President. Dear Mr. Speaker: There is attached for your con sideration and appropriate reference a draft bill “To pro vide for a jury commission for each United States district court, to regulate its compensation, to prescribe its duties, and for other purposes.” For a number of years the Judicial Conference of the United States and the Department of Justice have 54 recommended the enactment of legislation establishing a jury commission in each United States district court. Re cent difficulties experienced by the Department in con nection with the selection of jurors in certain cases have emphasized the need for strengthening the jury selection process. Information developed by the Department in the course of a survey of the methods of jury panel selection and qualification indicate that in many districts the judici ary exercises little, if any, control over the jury com mission in the selection of jurors and, in some instances, is of the opinion that it has no authority to do so. The draft bill is designed to improve and strengthen as well as to provide uniformity in the jury selection process. The responsibility of overseeing the operation of the system would be lodged in the chief judge of the district who would direct and supervise the jury commis sion in the performance of its duties. In order to avoid discriminatory practices, the measure would provide that the procedures employed by the jury commission in select ing the names of qualified persons for jury service “shall not systematically or deliberately exclude any groups from the jury panel on account of race, sex, political or religious affiliation, or economic or social status.” Also, in order to aid in the selection of qualified persons for jury service the jury commission would be required to use questionnaires and such other means as the chief judge deems appropriate. The jury commission would be required to keep complete records pertaining to the selection of persons for jury service and to retain such records for not less than two years. The measure would 55 not make ineligible for service any jury sworn prior to the effective date of the proposal nor any person called for jury service or whose name had been placed in a jury box or wheel prior to such date, if the procedure by which such jury or individual juror was selected was in com pliance with the law in effect at the time of such action. The Judicial Conference of the United States, at its September 1962 meeting, endorsed this proposal. The Bureau of the Budget has advised that there is no objection to the submission of this recommendation from the standpoint of the Administration’s program. Sincerely, Robert F. Kennedy, Attorney General M