Deposition of Jewell G. Ray

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Î LAH'THA WIijSYj st 3,-l ̂ 

Plaintiffj

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MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT^ 

Defendant.

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The discovery deposition of tjnWtLL G. RAY^ taken 

on ohis^ the l6th day of January^ 1975• on behalf of the 

plaintiff;, pursuant to notice^ in the conference room of 

the Director of the Memphis Police Department;, 123 Adams 

Avenue,, !'Iemnhis, TennesseCj and pursuanr to the Federal 

Rules of Civil Procedure.
All fo:rms and formalities are uaived, and 

objections alone as to matters oi incom^pecency, irre-LSvancy 

and immateriality of the te3ti.m:or:̂  arc; l ec'̂ i v-eu, oO oe

nresented and disposed of as or oe_or;

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For “bno ros-inxi

For the Defenh:

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G. PHILIP ARZIOLD^ ES 
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J0S3PH 3. DAILEY
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having first beer, duly sworn

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Q. w'ould v'ou state ar

record?

A. O.K. as IS Jev^ea]

Q. And you are presei

Police IDepartmeno^ is thaw

A. Right.

Q. And on January --

with the llemphis Police Dep:

A. I'm going on my 2<
-r . -! ̂ have to count on m.y

0,. Are you a native

iT. • Since sin years o

Q- That's as close a

A. I \'ias born in Mos

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A. Right.

• Did you start out

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ate and spell your name for the

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finders for the months.

as you can ses r guess.

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colics d6paroCi.0n.o_, ser'vsd as

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j-lPCi a cane on. one 

natrolrcan until January .ths

n'O' • You came, on the force,, did you come sLraight o.uo 

of high school or go to college?

yo_, I had been in the service., I came from the' 

service.. United S'caoes Armyj oo here.

Q. Hov; old were you at that tixme?

A ,  I was 2h years old, I believe. My birthday is '

the 1 6 th of October. I came on the I 2̂ 4, 2^

vears old, O.K. January 1, ' 6 3  I made lieutenant. August 

the 1st, ' 6 6 I made captain. And July 1st of '73 I made 

inspector.
All right. During the time that you were captain, 

be-ueen ' 6 6 and '7 3 '̂ I guess you had differenc, maybe, you 

had different jobs and different assigrsrents?

A. I made caotain vinile I was in Internal Affairs,

that was in ‘66.

Q. Would you run througn those?

c ' 6 7  I started the intelligent unit of the police

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/r-'.at did i” do?

. V/ell,, gathered intal-ligcrca iniornaoaon cn

criminal activities in ti.e cicv. 

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. '63 I 'iis.3 detacnsd irom tas

security for Janies Earl Ray v/nrle ne was in tne S n e m . ' s  

Department.
Q, were you attached to the Sheriff's Department?

R i g h t f o r  five rnont’ns^ ana I came back NoveraDer 

I believej October, Novem.ber, 1 9 6 8 . I want to the field 

as a field caotain, relief captain on one of the shxfos.

What did you do with your —  what were your duties in tnat 

job?
Well, I was supervising a group of men in one of 

tbe sections of the city. I relieved the regular captains, 

you know, on their days off as a supervisor, fxeld supervxso

So you wez’e continually consta.ntly shifting from 

oarts of the city ro parts 01 tne city?

A. Right.

Q. What v/ere you:

there to deal w i t h p r 0 b'
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A. At that time I worked Sunday and i'Ionda3t night

I v;ent in at 11:00 and I X'/orked xhioever's 'shift x\’'a3 on from 

11:00 to 7:00. I t;ould double back on Tuesday and V.'ednesdayj, 

I 7/ould xvork the 3:00 to 11:00 shifty and then I t/ould double 

back and v/ork the day shift on Thursday, and then I would be 

off from Thursday.' to Saturday/" night.

Q. Then you needed a promotion bad then?

A. No_, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed -- j/our xvork x-ras almos

right straight through^ and 3-0U 

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. got off a t d:00 and irent

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of ' 7 0  v/e v;ent int v'/h i t e 'n a v e n ̂

scutn area 01 x-iem.pnis on one partnc

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6 A. Right. I v;ent dov;n and _L 3 ̂ -i ̂  orTi 3s 0 oi-i. L»

7 January 1 of 1 9 7 0  to rlcvenber of 1 9 7 0 , and then ± went and

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9 Q • Was there an office down there, or did you rj'ork

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11 A. Everybody v;oi-ked out of the A m o u r  Station, the

12 vtnole shift, all three sections xjould meet: in one big roll

13 call and go to v;ork in differ cnt oarts of to'vp..

14 Q • That is not 3*[/ it is nov/-?

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16 Q- You have a center down in Southaven?

17 South ■■knphi0 _3 -ĥn.t . In November of 197C they

13 took me out of th.e fie _  3 . put me in charge of ourg lary-

19 I stayed in burglary until July I of 'H . They took ms out

20 of burgl ary and put ne ba.ck in tne field, and I went back on

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off^ I croul d see this gi'oup

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Cher group for one daj'_, and i 

stayed on this unrilj oh^ Lord^ I don’t kno7.' the dates^ anpnn 

vrhen Elton Haves earns uo the south captain 7;as relieved of 

:ook his place for 3̂duty^ 0̂ cays

Q. Was that in October o - p  I  9

A. Yes_, I guess ■rhenever Elton Hayes —  at that tin

novrj just prior to that they had established the south 

Toraclnctj this scaticn do'.rnin the Wnitehaven substation.

Q. Where is that located?

A. 8 1 9  East Raines Road.

0. That had already been established prior to the

Elton. Hayes incident?

A. R i g h t I  think it was Septemberj and this Elton

Hayes happened in Ocroberj was it?

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September rhe

station^ but they did not mak

That is rr̂'’ recollecrion.

Isr^ they establislied this as a separate

a precrncc. mere vra.;

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12 Q • But Zac  ̂ J** 7703 j_riS'C0Gtor?

13 A. On my shi ft.

14 Q • On your shix't‘?

15 A. John SIaughtjSV 7705 on another shift;, and Karris

13 Cole was on the ot 'n 0 r shiftj he was the inspector;, and I'm

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18 knovi v/ho the catt a In T ci :z i ‘T" T.rp -  . 0 O - L  o  W 0 ̂ my shift.

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No _5 this is '0.0 through ohe i.l̂.-.on I-Iâ res iriciden'.̂ . 

This was after you relieved the other captainsi

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duty along 7:ith 30 some odd people^ I guess. I toon over 

at that time in his olace_, filled in uorle on lays v.^ithout 

a day off during the disturbances and everything. ::oWj 

thiSj X ’'m. not crear on it to be nonest vi'ith you^ x don't 

remember v/h-etner he ever came os.ck or v.'hether I staj-'ed on 

that shift up until, oh, January the 10th, 1972 I took over

as the only cattain in the south precinct vith all three__

shifts under me. At this time, January the 10th, I became 

the precinct commander, that is when we X'/ent to precincts. 

We divided the cit's then into three crecincts, all shifts 

under one captain, this is when I X'/ent to the south precinc 

as the crecinct ccmrr.ander X'Xith all the responsibility of 

all three shifts under me.

Q. O.K. Thar v/as txv'o days after the event?

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Q 4' “ f*' 0 ■*“ d U w. iCt 0 time you were the captain in charge of one shift?

A. One shi

Q. Andj novjj wdio t:as the inspector for that shift?

ri • ZS-GjTIS-Z'V. Zachary v;as still mp'' inspector.

Q. Zachary xvas still. Yhat did you do as captain of

that shift_5 what were you'’ rosoonsi ’ot i “i t i es?

rssconsiole for toat Eroup of, men .in_.txia.t

area xvlrfle tleey v/sre >7cr-'Cmg_5 Jns'c as seems line it was 

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the ro2-l calls or somashing chey m.ight could tell you. I'm 

getting the imioressicn betwex-=‘en 3'o and

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Here you situated at the substation at that time? 

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And you stayed in an office, there? 

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ivhat have you?

A. Let me think. Nov;, at that time, we change so

much around here, at that particular time all of us dispatcne 

from uc here. There are three frequencies, the south is 

always operated on F2 frequency. We have a dispatcher that 

works each precinct, and I feel sure it was set up that way 

at that time, you know, one dispatcher, he only handles the 

south end of t07/n, one east and one north, with a relief 

discatchsr to fill in. I thinlc at that tim.e we had a 

supervisor, a relief and three regular dispatchers on each

dishaft. So tney, you nno; ^

Q, Let m.e ask you something, this might be curiosity

more than it is relevant.

A. O.K.

M?.. SnSA: I have a sneaking suspicion it is.

(3y Mr. Caldv;ell) This is a log of the dispatcher 

night of January the 5oh. It is obvious that not 

tcher apparently ccmies in all of th■» o  n •ine.

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v/as yn c; quesanen. cocausa 1  cicn^c | 

rananiosi'’ uhahhar '..'c vjsra scnal xic ens -1.C riour snifes ax chac 

tiy.e or not. Undoubtedly v:s nera.

ii?.. SHEA: ’/rny would you have baen_, was that

a new experir.enf;

THE WITI'IESS: I'Is v;ere wanting out of is no

fast^ I don't hnow if we changed it or not-. 

Undoubsedly at this particular tine v;e 'were 

becausej yeah^ because vis had Charlie and■ Baker . 

Nov;. Charlie v;as one shift, O.K.

(By Mr. Caldxvell) That is a reference to a shift? 

Rightj Charlie one shift they had overlapping
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shifts^ what the hours v?ere_, maybe 1  can explain it Uhi.s v;ay

nighs shiftvfnich v;oaxd 0 

to 6:00 P.M., Baler shift 

shift v;ould have v;orked fr 

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her that tning. bear vrith me j  the

Charlie shifty V/or led 3:0 0 ?.M.

■orhed from. 1 : 0 0 to 2 : 0 0  an Aj-i w -i.

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MR. SHZA: Ko>; you brea> î c aowri;, the precinc'

and uards.

A. (Conti..uin~) -his things you knc//^ you have a

line^ a s.a.jor street or something .orithln a v:ard_j the oncor-ini 

shift on c'/erlap v/ould also '.oork̂  the oncoroing would work 

the eastern pcroion and then v.'hen the oolier shift came on. 

that “hey vrere v;crking. they would ■mo\;''e to the v;estern 

portion of that v,’ard_, and then the oncoming shift would alv/ajs 

take the east portion^ which kept moo-ing you over.

Q. Relieo'e the burden and same scenery.

A. The boredom on the overlap. Does that make sense?

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the shift that would be comi 

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4 And whic.: I gi^^ss change from t i me to time?

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■have a Charlie l6 shov.’irg -ic ̂ vrhich a ware, car^ then you

have a ‘̂ 66 scecialj ani if niy recollection.^ if I'm not 

mistaken^ aU'd of cource^ I could be;, this is a long tine 

trying to remember^ these would be accident cars like 4l6 

or t-66;,  1 6 6  night have been a motorcycle;, l-l6 an accident 

car;, an accident investigation car. Three's -- three'S;, 

maybe shey v/ere the motorcycles again.

Q. But were these all in the south section again?

A. Certain cars^ all of the south section cars would

have worked one siscatcher, but also like right now I can 

give you more of an example rignt now^ right now the soutn

he interstate pat I’d  works on ther 

of the detective division to keet

all \-iorl-.s on the ?2 , but T  '"i - t i

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Dortion of the traffic go; there,, that frequency since

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be tal>ing to then from Charlie l6 and a motorcycle come in 

with something else in another area^ all going back and forth 

If you are not familiar with it and you try to look ao thiSj 

then it would be confusing to you because you would hare 

transmissions from —  wellj you are talking, about: 1 2 5 ,right 

now -- right now 1 2 5  square mile area^ and everything that 

operates in that area goes with that one dispatcher.

Q, Someoim.es the dispatcher^ as I notice (indicating)

indicases the time?

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around 3:00?

A. Here Charlie l4 reports on the scene at 8:03j h:

was gi’/ing him the scene tim.e 3:03- Baker lo 8 :0 4  ̂ he's 

giving him his time in service.

y. 0 .?h Howj this will help me understand this

better anyi-;ay. At the time you v;ere cap sain;, and this is 

prior to January 10 of '72j did you ha'/e any training

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corns ouu A’itr. a nsv; orlsr'. rna.cs sure tr.at 

sura tr.at they ur.iarstco.l it^ and this 

Q. If you have a r.eu order that

ids a rn.siT’.oi'aMciuiri fi'om tus ciij-si or v'seatever; 

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officers?
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p ^'SQuirej v/'heti eie thinh it is mpertant

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out to then. oorse

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board ana certain orders I know evenrecuira that tney

'■^htlal it to shov’ that then had read

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rules and regulanono. i«ov/_5

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cuestierling Tie about .

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to tyoe uo the part tour in tnere^ whicn is general rules_, 

ana I believe the 6l deals with disciplinary action^ in- 

other wordS;, I hai her Tnirr.eograph tv;o or three hundred cople.^ 

ran off^ and I v;as concerned that they did.n't have them and 

had them issued to each man under my command and eac-h nev/

;oms in that h a d

o Certain parts your excerpted and m.ima eg raphe d and

gave to tne men?

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Q. Do they have those today now?

g. NOj they v/ere issued ■'.■/hen I n.'as a patrolman. This

narticular booh '.'/as issuea wnen a was a patroima^n. I'm

soir :o yo'a a ;o re time in IdoS.

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question you aia^ v:n̂ i - u. ;oui- nan̂ ; 

m a n u a l a n d  that is v;-:en I found ont 

one. I made encerpts from 

the four's and she sin's i 

outdated by other regulations^ that i 

four's and the size's^ I pur the size's in there^ the way you 

handle a complaint or som.ezzhing that com.es in on an officer, 

and 1 made ezreerpts of t>;ie tnree's, lou'r's, and size's and 

run them off on a mimeograph machine and I issued them zzo 

the mien, this is r/here I'm. going to hold p’-ou responsible.

Of course, these are the rules and regulations other than —  

Q . Than their training and Z'vhat has'e p'ou at the

academy and what have you?

A. Right. So, I zvanted to make sure that they had

at least som.e rules and regulations.

Q. So your responsibility as captain in charge of tha

shift at that tim.e v;as to do this ki.nd of thing to keep the 

men informed of new regulations and remind shemof old ones? 

A. Right, anp'thlng nev; thai came out, reminders of

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vrhat I wan.ted to do^ so to speak.

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Did vcur inspector do any of these kina of thongs? 

other than the general orders that were passed

me cnrei

n r'rom chief?

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Q. 1  guess this manual could be amended by orders

coming from the general orders and stuff?
Rightj there is one in there^ for examplaj p'cu 

vrill not smoke in a squad car_, 1 oelievp., some thong about 
"mo''iv'3' in car vhiich they ha"e amended, you nnow^ you can 

smohm now arryocay. 1 don't know if it is in therej out^ nov;. 

like 'when 1 cam.e on ud until a coup.Le of years ago^ a 
oatrolm.anj any time out of that car^ o.u^t v/ear nos nat, now.

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time v;e did at roll call

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A_ R i g h t  J b u t  I d o n ’ t  o h i n l - :  i t  '.'.'as n e c e s s a r y . -

=it-^u I scoh over we had a legal advisor^ he cane 

out v;ith an order an 1 9  < 2 vinr-cn gave us one guidance to go 

by. I don’t knovf;, you probably got a copy of the order. 

April or May.
Q. A couple of nonths after we are talking about in

February?
j\ ̂ X don’t rern.ern.ber the exact date it cane out^ and

prepared^ I believe by Krelstein^ yeah^ so that wasn’t 

necessary because it cane out right after.

Q. But you night,, after January 10th -when you becane

caotain^ you night ha'/e an officer under your cormnand who 

has been involved in the use of firearms three or four . 

timesj are those the kind of things that you were resconsibl 

for checking into and keeping a specia^ attention -- paying 

scecial attention to?
sn myself to be responsible for 

end, I would .to over it v;ith them.
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Q. Have you ever been a supervisor of fatrolnan

Richards or Ratroluan Roleson?

A .  Hot that I recall j  I have ne'ver bean a direct

sucervisor of then until afoer January tlie -LGtn_, anc. i did 

not knov; the officers by sight or by nans.

Q. Hot-/ about Cox?

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You feel pretty confident about your position —

1 feel I dOj just the way the thing v/as set up^

I never saw the officers since aftei' the 10th and they all 

câ -e under n e . veSj I know then not-/j it took me a couple of 

nonths to get around to know who you were talking about.

If you asked ne on the 10th of January^ I will give you the 

same answer I ’m giving you now_, who are chey^ you know_, 

because v/e v/ere —  each snifr ponced che city and ’-/e were 

kindly^ you know, like a precinct is nov/̂  chat is all we 

v/3 '"c. '/rnen we v/are ŵ ork.irrgj and it '.-/as their responsibility 

when v/e went off and I talked to the ot';:er captains and the

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a l l ; ,  ' ^ h i c h  x v o u l i  m e a r  o u r  u e n  w a r e  e t i l l  c u t  

i a l d ; ,  b u t  a c t u a l l y  g e t t i n g  t o  u r io w  t h e s e  c i a i i j .  n o

o O"  ̂' ' o c e a u r - ^ j  n c c  i r _  t h e  c a s ;

r o u  d o n ' t  e v e n  Icnov; w h a t  t h e  p r o c e d u r e  v rasa s
out tne general procaaura weien .a irrearrri v;as 

gun v/as fireviv 

a nun was fii’ed —  

you run through that briefly?

Tne procedure that I  renernber at chat tine 

is that yoû , the first xhing you did, you called your 

lieutenant or youi' supervisor and he icade the scenej surveyoj 

it and then he wo’uld subicic a letcer and the officer doing I
le  0 j_3 *,'0_L wouu_d s u o i i i i c  a  u e   ̂L-ez'. 

hho o ' o u l d  t h e y  subuit these letters to?

o n e  I  o , i

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t h e i r  s t a t e ' m s n t S j a n d  t h a t

w h i c h  i s  t h e  da,y t h a t  y o u  t o

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t o  t a k e  c h a r g e  a t P • O 0 ^ v*' "f" rd, V sL -s_/ L± UIl

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addressing all correspondence to one precinct ccmanderj 

this was in that interim between Friday. I guess, and Ilonday 

and anything that they wrote crer the weehend^ since I vrasn't 

therej they would ha’/e normally addressed to me. Like this 

■may be where I first found out abous this is through this 

letter.

Q. But you didn'tj in response s o  those letters, you

didn't conduct any investigation of your 07rn?

shat rime letters 

it, but homocide
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were requiredj 

handled zhs ac

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goodness. I have no desire to hill 

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the line of autj'.

Q. I'm sure you have had a lot of experiences with

the departmerit and there 

have used it undes 

v/ers ocerating?

a i  ti; .ouaiions wnere you could 

he rules and regulations of which you

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fleeing f e l o n s f o r  e-camplej ^ assume some people

have ran fromi you a.nd escar-e
Very fev;. I use. to pride myselfbefore I got 

this gutj on oeing able to run them dovn'.. It x-ias kind o:

;ning v;icn me, w;ien i run a warn, snai

outrun mO;, ana .i. n a d

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violent crime and running irom me a m  _ mdn' t thiiiK that 

I could have caught him^ I may have shoo him because I had 

been trained^, and the stare lau says I could do itj and I 

\\TOuld have felt that I could have dons it.

Q. Based on your experience in law enforcement;, how

many of those kinds of people^, a violent crime;, you knoW;,

I dorr t think there can be much quarrel ’vith you on rhatj____

but how many fleeing bus’giars. for exampie_j trying to ro'o 

a business establishmienr, or what have you_, actually get av-;a; 

cermanently if you don'r catch them at she scene^ how many 

of them actually never get caughr?

MR. DAILZY: I don't understa.nd your question!,

irR. SHEA; hov/, have you qualified him 

v/hethsr or noij you are sap'ing based on your
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he doesn't hr.cvf.

MR. GALB'/MJ-L-l : I'm. sure he nasn't rn.aa8 a

head coune. and I'm net trying to get you to say 

thirteen and a half per cent never get caught and 

that sort of thingj, out do a TTia.jOrXuy oi uneic.

VIR. DAI The  p r o b l e i r  w i t h  t h a t ^  y o u  a r e

talking about a majority that he ‘ s personarj-y come 

UDon on the scene or a majortty of the ones that 

all ooliceman in the department have encounterea

a n the nineteen and a half years that he's been on

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MR. GALBASLL: I ' m  n o t  a s k i n g ^  I ' m  a s s ’umins

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comiP-issicn of a violent crarcej, vthei’e you vrould înj.r.k. unai.. 

other raerabers of socieoy v/ouio be in danger oi 3/ou don- 

stop thao person, does authorization to shoot a fleeing, 

unarmed felon, a burglar, for example, does tha^ I mean, is 

does that reallv —  is thau> rsaaiy of Ocnefiii 1.0 lav-t 

enforcement?
MP.. S H E A :  There again I object to the uay you

O’Ut that, 3 i n , tnao you again assum—d tnao ohe 

officer hnov/s that the man is unarmed, I don't 

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IS a u t h o r  i  1  a t i o n  t o s h o o t  t h a t  p e r s o n a n d  h a c o u l d e s c a p e ?

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2G r  n e t o a r  a u e r . c r i t a t i o n  t o sh- Co t ?

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h i t s  t h e  f r o n t  o f  t h e  b u i l d i n g  a n d  h e  h i e s  t h e  b a c k  a n a  h e r e  

c o m e s  t u o ^  t h r e e s i X j  o n e  b u s t i n g  o u t  a  d o o r  t h a t  h a  h a s  

no  i d e a j  tw o  t h i n g s , ,  u h a t  t h a t  man  h a s  c e m i t t a d  i n s i d e ^  i t  

m a y  b e  a  v e r y  s i m p l e  b u r g l a r y ^  n o b o d y  h u r t .  He g o t  s e n t , ,  

h e  d o e s n ' t  know  w h a t  i s  i n  t h a t  b u i l d i n g ^  n o r  d o s s  h e  Icnow 

t h a t  h e ' s  a r m .e d .  H e ' s  r u n n i n g ,  no'w t h a t  o f f i c e r  h a s  a b o u t  

t h r e e  s e c o n d s  "o  m a k e  a  d e c i s i o n ,  do I  t r y  t o  r u n  h m  dov/n 

o r  do I  b r i n g  himi dov/n, a n d  t h i s  i s  a  h a r  d d e c i s i o n  t o  ra ake  

i n  t h r e e  s e c o n d s .

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■Q,. A l l  r i g h t . '  Y o u  k no w  t h a t  i s ,  b u t  t h e r e  a r e

s i t u a t i o n s  w h e r e  y o u  d o ,  s u r e l y  i n  y o u r  l a w  e n f o r c e m e n t  1

c a r e e r  y o u  h a v e  e n c o u n t e r e d  s u s p e c t s  t h a t  y o u  kn ew  w e r e  

u n a i tm e d ?

A. H o t  u n t i l  I  s e a r c h e d  t h e m .  H o t  u n t i l  I  s e a r c h e d ,

f .  You  d i d n ' t  know f o r  a  f a c t ,  b u t  y o u  d i d  r 'un them,

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ed in and for the County of Shelby, State of

do hereby certify that, pursuant to the notice.rennessee^
tlnsi's cams ’DsiTors T;'.3 on "Cna loon nay oi -January u 97Dj 

aj the conference roorc of the Director of the Memphis Police
r\:3T^ n f-’oQ 1 rjT.n' p  cr C P 'p S O ’̂ .  CO —'''" ^ t *

JEWELL C-. RAY, who was oy rie duly sworn to testify to the 

truth and nothing but the turth of his hno^vledge touching 

and concerning the matter in controversy' in this cause; 

that he was thereupon carefully examined upon his oach and 

his examination reduced to vjriting by me and under my 

supervision; that the deposition is a true record of the 

testim.ony given by the witness; that the reading and signing 

of the deposition by the said witness were expressly waived.

X furtiiei' certxiy cnat I am i.exther aooomey or 

counsel for, nor related to or employed by, any oj) T T.n ̂

.rties to the action in which this d e p ' C s i t i o n  i ^ ca -rop

and further thac i am not a relative or employee of any

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