Wiley v. Memphis Police Department Trial Transcript
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October 29, 1975
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O F F IC IA L C O U R T REPORTER
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
WESTERN DISTRICT OF TENNEsEEE
29 October 1975
M EMPJTIS, T E N N E S S E E
Mr . i 11 i aKi E . Cal dv;ell
Attorney At Lav/
Sui te 525 Commerce T i t l e B l d g . ,
Memphis, Tenn. 38103
RE: Martha Wi l ey vs . Memphis P o l i c e
Department, CA 73-8.
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UillTDD oTATES DISTRICT COURT
V7ESTERiJ DISTRICT OF TERRESSEE
UESTLIiE D i v i s i o n
tiARTiIA V7ILEY, Mother and )
Next of Kin of Fred Lee )
Derry , a Deceased Minor, )
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CIVIL ACTION NO,
C -73 -8 .
The fol lov;incj p roceed ings were had in the United
Sta te s D i s t r i c t Court , Western D i s t r i c t o f Tennessee,
in Memphis, Tennessee, b eg inn ing on Wednesday, A p r i l
2, 1975, at approximate ly 1;30 p .m. , b e f o r e the
Honorable Harry W. W e l l f o r d , Judge,
APPEAR/vNCES :
For the P l a i n t i f f ;
The Honorable V7illiam E. C a l d w e l l ,
The Honorable G. P h i l i p A rno ld .
For the Defendants :
The Honorable Ar thur J. Shea,
The i ionorable Char les V. i iolmes,
The Honorable Wayne Chan t i n .
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Martha Wi loy
James Richards
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in Martha vriley ve rsus fcl'.e c i t y o f Memphis and a
number of other de fendants , C-73-0?
MR. CALDWELL: Ready f o r the p l a i n t i f f . Your
Honor.
MR. SHEA: Ready f o r the de fendants .
I want to sneak to you - - Just one second
( i n d i c a t i n g to Mr. C a ld w e l l ) - - Your Honor.
Your Honor, by consent o f p l a i n t i f f , we have
amended the ansv;er o f P. J. Cox and J. F. (K)
Richards a g a in s t W i l ey . We think the h i s t o r y o f
th i s case s t a r t e d out with a new e l e c t i o n to the
c i t y o f , that Mr. T r a v i s , and then Mr. Kim S t a l i i n c
got i n v o l v e d , and Mr. Joe D a i l ey and F i n a l l y Mr.
Holmes, and m yse l f , and j u s t in o r d e r , out o f the
abundance o f c au t ion , we would l i k e to o f f e r the
Court the amendment to p lead Sect ion 40-808 , o f TC|i
THE COURT: A l l r i g h t .
The Court notes that in t h i s case the o r i g i n s
s u i t was f i l e d a g a in s t the p o l i c e department , the
c i t y of Memphis, former Ch ie f P r i c e , former Chief
Lux, Mayor Chandler , former Mayor Loeb , M. J.
Cal l iham — and has been d ismissed as to M. J.
Ca l l iham , R. D. Roleson, has not been as to P .J . C^x ,
J. K. R ichards , VJ. W. Wannamaker - - that i s
Tlir. COURT: Gentlomer., arc vre ready to proceed
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Kay, i t has been d i sm issed as to , a l s o , as to Mr.
Ray .
The complaint s e t s out these de fendants , or
a number of theiu, as p o l i c e o f f i c e r s , and a l s o se t s
out John Doe and o thers s i i u i l a r l y s i t u a t e d .
There v/as a ju ry demand at the o u t s e t , which,
and the demand f o r ju ry has now been wa ived .
A l so the Court has ru l e d p r e v i o u s l y on d i s
covery matte rs .
Some agreements were subsequent ly reached with
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r e ga rd , a f t e r the Court o rde r , and o th e rw i s e , v/ith
r ega rd to d i s cove ry o f matters in the po s se s s i o n
of the p o l i c e , p a r t i c u l a r l y v^ith r e ga rd to the
p o l i c e i n v e s t i g a t i o n , or the I n t e r n a l A f f a i r s
Department 's i n v e s t i g a t i o n of the c i rcumstances
p e r t a i n i n g to th i s s u i t .
One p a r t i c u l a r item from that f i l e has not
been h e r e t o f o r e turned over to the de fendant
( p l a i n t i f f ) , i t , i t i s a r e p o r t by a De tec t ive
C h i l d e r s , in January o f '72, to the i n s p e c t o r .
In spec to r Thines , in the I n t e r n a l A f f a i r s
Department, b e a r in g upon c i rcumstances p e r t a i n in g
to a statement of one Courtney L. H a r r i s . j
The Court has , i s asking tho c l e rk to , to mar);
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purposes , and th i s i s a, the only item as the Couri
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understands i t from the f i l e s which v;as turned ovef
to the Court p r e v i o u s l y f o r in camera in s p e c t i o n ,
which has not been made a v a i l a b l e to the |,ilaintif£|
with reya rd to t h e i r content ion in th i s s u i t . j
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Court ounht to take up, or that the reco rd ouyht i
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b e h a l f o f the p l a i n t i f f a g a in s t the defendants? |
MR. C7vLDWJlLL: Your Honor, i f I may address j
li'iyself b r i e f l y to the d i scove ry item v/hich the
Court has j u s t marked f o r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n .
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As the Court i n d i c a t e s , th i s i s one o f a numbe
o f iter.is whicn was submitted to the Court f o r in !
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de fendants , the Court has not , to th i s da te , rulediI
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that any items in that in camera submissxon i s
p ro p e r l y s u b j e c t to a clai jn o f p r i v i l e g e , and we
do, as we understand i t , th i s i s a r e p o r t d ea l in g
with the w i tness at the scone, and v/e would i n s i s t
that we iiro e n t i t l e d to that document, and tlaat i t
should be produced f o r our i n s p e c t i o n .
th i s e> :h ib it , iteni, as an e x h i b i t f o r i d e n t i f i c a t i b n
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THE COUTIT: Do you wish to be heard in resoect
to that n a t t e r , ’l r . Shea?
MR. SHEA: I f Your Honor p l e a s e , i t ir. our
content ion that in support o f other cases that
have been submitted to the Court h e r e t o f o r e that
i s a work product o f the I n t e r n a l A f f a i r s
Department of Memphis, and should not be a l l owed
in evidence in t h i s t r i a l .
MR. CALDWELL: That in the f i r s t time I have
ever heard the work product p r i v i l e g e claimed in
connection with t h i s document.
I understand i t to be i n v e s t i g a t i v e p r i v i l e g e ,
that the defendant has argued in p rev ious hea r ings .
THE COURT; Mr. Shea?
MR. SHEA: I f Your Honor p l e a s e , w ithout b e
l a b o r i n g the Court , at t h i s l a t e s t a g e , tha t i
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there i n , there i s in th i s l a w s u i t , a p o s i t i o n |
that the c i t y has a do p te d , th a t the f r e e info rmation
between p o l i c e o f f i c e r s and the I n t e r n a l A f f a i r s
i s not something that can be used l a t e r on aga ins t
the p o l i c e o f f i c e r , as such, tha t there wo: i ldn ' t
be any use o f t h e i r i n v e s t i g a t i o n to t r y to prove
or d i sp rove whatever has happened , you wou ldn ’ t
have that l i n e o f communication i f the o f f i c e r
knew there that v/'iat he s a id might come here l a t e r ,
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bo r a i s e d and h i t h in in the f ace at a l a t e r time.
11 corapic tdy ues t roys the c o n i i d e n t i a l i t y o f the
p o l i c e o f f i c e r and I n t e r n a l A f f a i r s s e c t i o n of the
i j o l i c e depar tnent .
THE COURT: W e l l , Mr. Shea, the Court has
p r e v i o u s l y , in e f f e c t hy reason o f not turning
over c e r t a i n o f the docurrionts, i f we have not made
i t c l e a r , wo have, in e f f e c t , r u l e d that there i s ,
at l e a s t , a l im i t e d p r i v i l e g e in th a t r e s p e c t , or
l im i t e d immunity or l im i t e d v/ith r e ga rd to In te rna^
A f f a i r s i n v e s t i g a t i o n with r e sp e c t to statements
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o f iTolice o f f i c e r s that may e i t h e r be under i n v e s t !
ga t ion or s u b j e c t to p o s s i b l e d i s c i p l i n a r y charges
how, the p a r t i c u l a r iteras tha t the Court has
made r e f e r e n c e to he re , that Hr. C a ld w e l l has
luovod, as the Court r e c a l l s the document which has
been i d e n t i f i e d . Hr. C l e r k , as “ “
THU CLERK; (ho r e sp o n s e . )
THE COURT; V7e have p r e v i o u s l y marked f o r
i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , three through ( i ) - - or (a ) throug
( j ) , I th ink, have not , there has not been anybody
in vo lv ed p r e v i o u s l y .
MR. CALDWELL; Mr. C le rk , a r e n ' t the e x l i i b i t s
marked one through t h i r t y - three?
TiIE COURT: ’W e l l , l e t t h i s be marked as
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iiut, in any event , the p a r t i c u l a r docuiaent
r e l a t e s to in fo r t i a t io n fu rn i sh ed by the I n t e r n a l
f a i r s o f f i c e r s , to a su p e r i o r in the I n t e r n a l
A f f a i r s , not p e r t a i n i n g p a r t i c u l a r l y to the s t a t e -
cient o f a p o l i c e o f f i c e r in r e sp e c t to that invest|. -
g a t i o n , bu t r a t h e r , r a t h e r tiie s t a t e n e n t a t t r i b u
t a b l e , or tae c i rcumstances a t t r i b u t a b l e to the
purpo r ted statements o f one Courtney H a r r i s , and
p o s s i b l y there h i s v/ife.
The Court would , would not ho ld that that part-
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t i c u l a r item or statement i s s u b j e c t to any q u a l i
f i e d p r e ju d i c e or immunity in th a t i t does not per[-
t a in to , to the, d i r e c t l y , a t l e a s t , i t does not
p e r t a i n to the ac t or statement o f a p o l i c e o f f i c e r
under the a eg i s o f i n t e r n a l s e c u r i t y i n v e s t i g a t i o n
The Court does f e e l ti iat the whole p rocess o f
i n t e r n a l s e c u r i t y i n v e s t i g a t i o n would be impeded
i f not v i r t u a l l y h a l t e d i f any statement raade v/ithin
the coxirse and scoi^e o f that i n v e s t i g a t i o n could
f r e e l y be made a v a i l a b l e in c i v i l l i t i g a t i o n p e r
t a in in g to that o f f i c e r .
However, th i s p a r t i c u l a r item r e l a t e s to info|r-
mation p e r t a i n in g to the c i rcumstances o f a state - ;
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i iKliibit rU’raber 34 then fo r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n .
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1 ou ts ide pcirty v/ituess to what nay have t r a n s p i r e d
on the n iyh t in q u e s t i o n , v/hich i s the b a s i s o f
the l a w s u i t .
The Court f e e l s that , because o f the nature
of that statement , and tha t i t does not d i r e c t l y ,
at l e a s t , a l though i n d i r e c t l y , i t may bea r upon th^
act ions v/hioh are in q u e s t i o n , o f the p o l i c e o f f i
c e r s a t the scene, tha t the Court wou ld , not ing
the o b j e c t i o n o f the de fendants , make a v a i l a b l e
the p a r t i c u l a r item, because we do not f e e l i t i s
w i th in the context and w i th in the sense o f the
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C o u r t ' s r u l i n g ; that i t i s an item that should be
p ro t e c t e d f o r the reasons that have been i n d i c a t e d
that i f there i s to be an e f f e c t u a l and e f f e c t i v e ,
i n t e r n a l l y , i n t e r n a l s e c u r i t y J^ticcdure, that
tliose statev.ients shou ld be ab le to be made, at
l e a s t , ̂ absent o ther compel l ing r e a
sons , in con f idence , and not be a b l e to be u t i l i s e d
by o ther x-att ies a g a in s t the x^olice o f f i c e r ; bu t ,
here , v/herc v/e are concerned w ith the x’ li^po^bod
statement or x^i^tported circurastances o f a stateraenlt
o f a par ty not connected with tiie p o l i c e department,
we w i l l , over tiie o b j e c t i o n o f the de fendant , make
a copy o f that statement a v a i l a b l e , and the c l e r k
may make th a t , b x l i i b i t 34 f o r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n .
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a v a i l c b l e to counsel f o t the defendant ( p l a i n t i f f )
as i t p e r t a i n s to c i r cuuis tances o f the atate/aent
of a Courtney i i a r r i s .
a'ov; ̂ the Court i s av/aro that p a r t i c u l a r w i t
ness has been known to a l l o f the p a r t i e s over a
c o n s id e r a b le p e r i o d o f time, and th i s merely p e r
ta in ing to p o l i c e in fo rm a t ion , p e r t a i n i n g to the
ci rcumstances , r e l a t i n g to idr. H a r r i s ' purported
obse rva t i on s and/cr statement about the ep i sode
that i s in qu es t ion b e f o r e the Court .
A l l r i g h t , are there any other p r e l im in a ry
matters?
Hr. C a l d w e l l , what i s the s i t u a t i o n v;ith
rega rd to your c la im o f tiie p o l i c e o f f i c e r s , John
Doe and o thers s i m i l a r l y s i t u a t e d in l i g h t o f the
e x ten s i v e d i s cove ry that lias talcen p l a c e in th i s
case?
MR. CALDWHLL: Vour Honor, v;e h a v e n ' t , in the
d i scove ry p rocess , i d e n t i f i e d any other i n d i v i d u a l
v.'ho we would d e s i r e to make de fendants , and v/e, we
arc , we acquiesce in a d i s m i s s a l .
THE COURT: H e l l , the case i s d ismissed as to
any other p a r t i e s then.
As the liiatter now s t ands , and the Memphis
P o l i c e Department, the c i t y o f Memphis, Mr. P r i c e ,
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1 ::r . P r i c e , Mr. Lux, Mr. Lux
Cox and Mr. R ichards .
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Mayor Chandler , Mr.
Me have d i smissed the c i t y and the poJ.ice
department as to the clai ias made under 42 USC 1983
and 1905, and 198C, but not as to c la ims wade unde:
42 use 1981 or 1988,
A l l r i f jh t , gentlemen,
MR. SilEA: I f Your Honor p l e a s e , there i s one
wore matter tJiat, that the de fendants th a t are
s t i l l l e f t in the l a w s u i t i i w o l v e d , some peop le
uho are no longer employed, employees o f the c i t y ,
and wa don ’ t have as ranch c o n t ro l over thein as we
would have over somebody e l s e .
I think C h ie f P r i c e i s now with MATCOX MEM
TvRK-TDN, in the environment s e c t i o n . lie has , ho
i s the l e a d e r o f the d i s c u s s i o n that i s be ing hold
in M ash v i l l o toraorrow morning, and he had to leave
t i l l s a f te rnoon .
I w i l l have D i r e c t o r Hubbard p re se n t and we
have taken L t . P r i c e ' s d e p o s i t i o n in o rde r not to
b e la b o r the case , or ask the Court i f ua do f i n i s h
f i n i s l i i t tomorrow a f t e rn oo n , I hope we might,
r a th e r than have some loose ends hanging, because
v/e c a n ' t g e t L ieu tenan t - - Ch ie f P r i c e here .
Could wc use i l l s deptosition?
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d e p o s i t i o n as an adverse p a r t y , so that i s f i n e .
THE COUiri’ ; A l l r i g h t .
Gent leuen, you rriay p roceed .
The Court i s f a m i l i a r v;ith tlie v a r i ou s p r e t r i a l
memoranda and other documents th a t have been f i l e d
e i t h e r in support o f motions or in support o f pos i
t ions of the r e s p e c t i v e p a r t i e s r e l a t i n g to the
i s s u e s that are b e f o r e us , and p a r t i c u l a r l y with
r ega rd to the p r e t r i a l memoranda s e t t i n g f o r t h the
p o s i t i o n o f each o f the p a r t i e s on the i s s u e s as
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viewed by those pcirt ies that are p re sented to the
C o u r t .
E i t h e r o f you i s p e rm i t ted , o f course , to
proceed with opening statements , i f you wish to do
so, to p o in t out to the Court that p a r t i c u l a r mat
t e r or item that you want to c a l l to the C o u r t ' s
a t t e n t i o n .
I would , however, urge you that you do not
need to r epea t or go over a l l o f the d e t a i l s o f
your memoranda that has been f i l e d because tne
Court i s f a m i l i a r v;ith those mat te r s .
So i f e i t h e r o f you wish to proceed by openin'^j
statement , you may do so at th i s time b e f o r e we
hear the p roo f and ev idence .
MR. CALD-<'RLL; had in tended to use h is
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MR. CALD.JRLL; '/our iionor, i f I may i.iake j u s t
a b r i e f sumr^iarisation o f our case .
hii the Court knova;, from the p r o t r i a l :ner;.or-
anda, that the i n c i d e n t that gave r i s e to th i s lav/4-
s u i t occurred on January H, and I V7unt b e l a o o r
those , those f a c t s , because they w i l l be gone in to
in d e t a i l .
I t i s our p o s i t i o n that tho:-3e f a c t s w i l l show
th a t , that Defendants Cox and Richards used unnecei
sary f o r c e in u t i l i z i n g deadly f o r c e a g a in s t p l a i n
t i f f , deceased Fred Lee Be r ry , who, a t that p a r t i
c u l a r t i n e , \/as eig'nteen yea rs o l d .
At tne t ine o f Fred Lee B e r r y ' s death, tac
Memphis P o l i c e Department was o pe ra t in g under a
deadly fo rce p o l i c y , which supports the use o f
dead ly f o r c e a g a in s t any f l e e i n g f e lon y suspect
r e g a r d l e s s o f the nature o f the crime, r e g a r d l e s s ,
r e g a r d l e s s o f the s e r i o u sn e ss o f the crime, and
r e g a r d l e s s o f the age o f the suspec t or h i s l e g a l
s t a t u s , under Tennessee lav/.
That p o l i c y has been, has been implemented by
Defendant Lux, and at the time o f th i s p a r t i c u l a r
i n c i d e n t . Chief Lux aud r e t i r e d , and Defendant
P r i c e v/as ac t ing c h i e f o f p o l i c e , and Mayor
Chandler was, in e f f e c t , the commissioner o f
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p o l i c e , aa I l ls c iepoait ion r e v e a l a .
DefenJnnt P r i c e and Cluindlor had r a t i f i e d the
deadly fo rce p o l i c y aa i t then e x i a t e d , and had
approved i t , and had taken no s teps tc a l t e r i t or
r.aJ;e i t nore s p e c i f i c , or invoke g u i d e l i n e s to
determine the use o f dead ly fo rce by Meraphis p o l i c
of f i c e r s .
A major f a c t o r in th i s case , Your Honor, was
the f a c t that Fred Lee Berry was b l a c k .
Our p roo f w i l l show that in th i s c i t y there
has been a long enduring h i s t o r y o f r a c i a l d i s c r i m i
na t ion , There has been a long h i s t o r y o f e i t h e r
r e a l or conce ived p o l i c e misconduct toviard the
blac ) : community.
The p roo f w i l l shov;. Your Honor, that the
im pos i t ion of the dead ly f o r c e p o l i c y on those f a c t s ,
and on f a c t s v/hich r e v e a l that young b l a c k s , in
p a r t i c u l a r , f e a r the Memphis P o l i c e Department.
There a re , there a re . Your Honor, because o f
that f e a r , there i s l i k e l y to be , they are more
l i k e l y to respond f a v o r a b l y to p o l i c e commands
than are white j u v e n i l e s or white peop le g e n e r a l l y .
The im pos i t ion o f th i s p o l i c y on those f a c t s ,
n e c e s s a r i l y means that i.' ôro than th a t , a d i sp roporp
t i o n a t e number o f b l a c k s , b l ack suspects and blackj
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j u v e n i l e fiuepects , p a r t i c u l a r l y , have deadly i o rce
ir.ple:r.ented a g a in s t them in s i t u a t i o n s v;hich are
not iniplor.ented as a g a in s t white j u v e n i l e s .
Our p roo f w i l l f u r t h e r shov/. Your honor, that
in f a c t , there i s a p a r t i c u l a r s i g n i f i c a n t d i s p a r
i t y betv/oen the number of b l acks who are a r r e s t e d
f o r crimes in Memphis, v/hich a pe rcen tage , which
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tend to be a r r e s t e d and not charged and a g r e a t e r
degree of w h i t e s , v;hite s u sp e c t s , but accept ing
these f i g u r e s , the percentage o f the b l a c k s , those
who are a r r e s t e d , and those that are b l a c k , and
comparing that percentage to the percentage of
those v;ho \/cre shot a t v;ho were b l a c k , that i s a
s i g n i y i c a n t s t a t i s t i c a l d i s p a r i t y , which i n d i c a t e s
tiiat race i s the f a c t o r which makes up f o r the
di f f e r e n c e .
Our p roo f w i l l a l s o show. Your Honor, that
there i s l e s s dangerous f o r c e needed which should
be used i f j u s t i c e i s done.
T l ie re fore , dead ly fo rce i s a f a c t o r in th is
case , and a l e s s dangerous f o r c e i s a l l owed to be
used, o ther than dead ly f o r c e , by the FBI, and
otl ier agenc ies ac ross the country o f the United
S t a t e s , and dead ly f o rce s i r a i l a r l y used in cases
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such fXH t h i s case has been conderaned by p r e s i d e n t i a l
coituaissions . They have been condeianed by the
d r a f t e r s o i the raodern pena l code, and numerous
r e s p o n s i b l e a u t h o r i t i e s .
On these f a c t a , we think the p l a i n t i f f s are
e n t i t l e d to r e l i e f on the b a s i s that the p l a i n t i f f
i s e n t i t l e d to r e l i e f , that i s d e c l a r a t o r y r e l i e f ,
and danages as p rov ided f o r under s e v e r a l l e g a l
t h e o r i e s .
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One theory i s that the ac t i on of the defendants
v i o l a t e Tennessee law, and wo have invoked th i s
C o u r t ' s pendant j u r i s d i c t i o n pursuant to that
c la i ra .
Secondly , we contend that the shoot ing in th i s
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the Fourteenth Anendrocnt, r e g a r d l e s s o f whether or
not there i s a v i o l a t i o n of Tennessee law.
T h i r d l y , Your Honor, we contend that a l l
defendants are l i a b l e to the p l a i n t i f f under the
Fourth Amendment, and in that r e ga rd we contend
that the shoot ing to a r r e s t p o l i c y i s an unreasonable
s e a r c h - s e i z u r e , wliich v i o l a t e s the Fourth
Amendment.
V,’e a l s o contend that the de fendants are - -
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Tlii] COURT: Under any circuiustances?
IIK. C/iLD.v’CLL; 1 ’ I'i s o r r y , Your Honor, under
circuMstances o f f n i s case , v;hich dead ly f o r c e i s
ir. iplcnented a g a i n s t a Keyro, proxjerty crirae suspect ,
or a g a in s t a I.'egro su spec t , not reasonab ly b e l i e v e
to be p re sen t ing a danger to e i t h e r the p o l i c e
o f f i c e r s or to ot l iers in the coniiaunity.
Tin: COURT: W e l l , shou ld , then, we d e c l a r e
48 dash 808 to be u n c o n s t i t u t i o n a l? I s n ' t that
tixe e f f e c t o f i t?
MR. CALDWHLL; Mo, I d o n ' t think so . Judge
U e l l f o r d .
THE COURT: Jus t , we o v e r r u l e the th r e e - j u d g e
court that dec ided contra ry?
MR. CALDWELL: The t h r e e - j u d g e cour t , w ithout
any f a c t u a l b a s i s . I d o n ' t nean they d id ix ' t nave,
that they had no b a s i s , no b a s i s f o r t h e i r r u l i n g ,
but th i s v;as not a r u l i n g on, on the a p p l i c a t i o n
of the s t a t e . There was no f a c t s in that case ,
was r u l i n g on a b s t r a c t o f whether the s t a t u t e was
a c t u a l l y u n c o n s t i t u t i o n a l .
Aga in , you see , i t i s a p p l i e d , i t i s a pp l i e d
in Meiaphis now as i t i s app>lied in K n o x v i l l e ,
Tennessee. I t way w e l l not be u n c o n s t i t u t i o n a l - -
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case , because the de fendants , thoinse lves , have
modif ied the s t a t u t e and we are t a l k in g about the
l o c a l p i ract ices under s t a t e law, but we are ta lk ing
about l o c a l , l o c a l p o l i c y adopted by the p o l i c e
depcirtment, and impleunentod by them, and we neces
s a r i l y do not , t h e r e f o r e , cha l l e n ge the s t a t e
s t a t u t e or seek i n j u n c t i v e or a c c l a r a t o r y or damage:
r e l i e f a g a in s t i t , bu t i f the Court v iews the s i t u
a t ion - - ( intor rui^ted)
TUE COURT: W e l l , I 'm r e a l l y - - Of course ,
that heis not been asked in th i s case , as I under
stand i t , but what I 'm s imply asking you i s the
e f f e c t o f what you arc asking the Court i s to
d e c l a r e i t u n c o n s t i t u t i o n a l and I 'm v;onderiag about
that in l i g h t o f the s p e c i f i c r u l i n g of the th r e e -
judge cour t r e c e n t l y that i t was not u n c o n s t i t u
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c a l l e d upon, or that the s t a t e s t a t u t e , as i jr .pi i -
catod in t h i s case , and that i t does , i t Vi’ould hav^:
to be more tiian an a u t h o r i z a t i o n to do what doten -
dauts have done, would have to mandate i t , in Uiy
judgment, f o r the s t a t u t e to be n e c e s s a r i l y i m p l i
cated , but i f the Court f e e l s tha t the s t a tu t e
e i t h e r mandates or a l r e a d y i s , the use o f dead ly
f o r c e , in llcmphis, i s be ing used and has been used
then I v/ould contend tl iat the s t a t u t e i s un con s t i
t u t i o n a l as a p p l i e d in Mepvphis, notw i ths tand ing
the th r e e - j u d g e cour t v/liich, I remember i t i s baseii
upon the, s o l e l y the b a s i s o f the c o n s t i t u t i o n a l i t y
o f the s t a t u t e , but not i n d i c a t e d on, based on any
f a c t s , the f a c t tha t the c on t in ua l use of dead ly
f o rce i s j u s t i f i e d , v/here i t i s used e l s ewhere .
THE COURT: A l l r i g h t .
Whether i t i s j u s t i f i e d or not depends upon
each independent i n c i d e n t , and judgment o f the
o f f i c e r seeking to make the a r r e s t in every i n d i v i f
dua l case , so , i s that n e c e s s a r i l y the case , Mr,
Caldv/ell?
MR. CALDV;e LL: Judge 'Wel l ford ( i n t e r r u p t e d
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can be a p p l i e d except f o r the o f f i c e r to make an
i n d i v i d u a l d e c i s i o n , an i n d i v i d u a l case , as to
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whether ha nas cause, a r-easonable cause to e f f e c t
neccissary f o r c e .
MR. CALD'wi.LL: Vve.ll, I mean the Memphis
P o l i c e Department, or those i n d i v i d u a l s , the use
of dead ly f o r c e , f o r eiicunplc, to stop a Megro s u s
pect v/ho i s unarmed, v/ho poses no th r e a t to the
s a f e t y or \/elfare o f the ]^>olice o f f i c e r , Oi any
other human be ing in the c i t y , that p o l i c y , i t s e l f ,
i s u n c o n s t i t u t i o n a l , in our judgment.
7\nd that i s , now, t h i s i s an a l t e r n a t i v e con
ten t ion , Your Honor.
Our four th content ion i s , o f course , i s the
use of f o r c e v;as, were not necessary on the f a c t s
of th i s case , but th i s i s an a l t e r n a t i v e contentioiji
We a l s o contend that the p o l i c y implemented
in ^Memphis i s u n c o n s t i t u t i o n a l under the Fourteenth
Amendment and. Fourteenth and Fourth Amendment,
because there were no g u i d e l i n e s drawn to govern
the p o l i c e o f f i c e r ’ s conduct in connect ion with
dead ly f o r c e v/hich was des igned s p e c i f i c a l l y to
p ro t e c t human l i f e , except to , i f in those s i t u a
t ions in v;hicji the use o f dead ly f o r c e would be
j u s t i f i e d . In our v iew , i t i s , f a i l u r e o f gvxide-
l i n o s , f a i l u r e to have g u i d c l i n o s , wc thii^K i s , inj
i t s e l f , an independent v i o l a t i o n o f , as w e l l as
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v i o l a t i o n of tne i n t i v i a u a l ' a , v i o l a t i o n of the
Fourth Auienciu'.ent, and that the Fourth Aaoudment
aliio dornaiuis that c ju ide l inos be r e a s o n a b le .
A l s o , we contend th a t . Your donor , the v o l a
t i l e ness b r i n g s i t r i g h t under the d ighth Araeuauientl,
because i t c o n s t i t u t e s c ru e l and unusual punishmentJ
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We a l s o contend that i t v i o l a t e s the due p r o
cess c lause in more s u b s ta n t i v e than, in which I
spoke a moment ago, and that i s tha t the a u t h o r i t i e s
r i g h t c f taking of human l i f e , d e p r i v in g a su spec t !
of ciLl o f tiie b i l l c f b i g h t s guarantees that he has ;
i n c lu d in g the r i g h t to counse l , the r i g h t to t r i a l
by j u ry , and what have you, the due p rocess c l a u s e ;
i s v i o l a t e d un less tiiore are compel l ing j u s t i f i c a
t ions f o r the implementat ion of dead ly f o r c e ,
which wo d o n ' t think are p re sent wiiere the hegro
suspect poses no t h r e a t to the s a f e t y of any i n d i
v i d u a l .
And f i n a l l y . Your honor, we think that becauseiI
the p o l i c y i s implemented in Memphis, has a very i
r e a l aiid demonstrab le r a c i a l impact and because i t
i s in f a c t c a r r i e d out d i s p r o p o r t i o n a t e l y a g a in s t
f l e e i n g blac, : su spects tiian i t i s a g a in s t f l e e i n g
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anu jui3t cltiii'.'.s o f the Fourteenth Araendinent and
420S, Sect ion 1981.
Thank you. Your honor.
THU COURT: Do you v;ish to make an opening
statement , Hr. Shea?
MR. SilhA; Very b r i e f l y . Your honor.
I t i s the c i t y ' s p o s i t i o n that the ac t i on
that took p l ace on tiie n igh t o f January the Uth,
v;as one that was j u s t i f i e d , and Your honor has
s u c c in c t l y s e t out that each case has to be judged
on i t s ov/n m e r i t s . We j u s t c a n ' t make a sweeping
statement and say that a l l Negro f e l o n s should be
permit ted to escape and, and/or they should shoot
a l l IJegro f e l o n s , and i t depends on the circuru-
s t a n c e s .
Your honor has a l s o s t a t e d that a th r e e - j u d g e
panel has found in the Cunningham case tnat v;as
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ment. Governor E l l i n g t o n , the Governor o f tne s t a te
of Tennessee, was found a t that t ime, tha t s t a tu t e
v/ao c o n s t i t u t i o n a l , and has not been ove r tu rned ,
and I do, in e f f e c t , think v/hat they are asking i s
tha t th i s Court d e c l a r e that s e c t i o n TCA, Sect ion
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case i s , would,, w i l l shov/ that the o f f i c e r s were
j u s t i f i e d in the course of f iction that they took
at that tirae.
Tlili COURT; A i l r i g h t , s i r .
You laay proceed v;ith your p ro o f and ev idence .
MR. CALDV.hlLL: I f Your Honor p l e a s e , i f I may
take up one other p r e l im in a ry matter .
P r e v i o u s l y , p r i o r to the p rev ious t r i a l s e t t i n g ,
we i s sue d a subpoena to D i r e c to r Hubbard to produce
v a r io u s documents a t tiie then scheduled t r i a l ,
among those weJB photocjraplis and w h a t -h a v e -y o u , and
I th ink Mr. Shea may have those a e r i a l photograhpsi
and what -havG-you here today.
We a l s o “ “ ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
HR. SHEA; Yes, s i r .
HR. CALDWELL; We a l s o requested the i n v e s t i
g a t i v e f i l e , i f i t e .^isted, in connect ion with a,
with a th rea ten ing l e t t e r r e c e i v e d by p l a i n t i f f ,
Mrs. W i l ey , a f t e r the i n s t i t u t i o n o f the l a w s u i t
in th i s cou r t , that th rea ten ing l e t t e r had been
forwarded to D i r e c t o r Hubbard and we have never
r e c e i v e d any x-esponse from him, and as I understand
Mr. Shell ’ s response to th i s p a r t o f the producing i
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MR. oIlLA: (Mods nuad in the a f f i r ruat ive .)
MR. CALDMRLL: May tlie r eco rd show Hr. She:i
s a i d , ’’i e s . "
MR. SULA; Yes , s i r .
HR. CALDVIELL; We a l s o reques ted . Your Honor,
any documents conta in ing or r e l a t i n g to p o l i c y
l i a i i l i t y in surance which was in e f f e c t on Jaiiuary
8, 1972, or at the p re se n t , and as I understand i t
that Mr. Shea ' s rosi^ionse to that , at the tiiae o f
th i s there was no p o l i c y o f l i a b i l i t y insurance in
e f f e c t on January 8, 1972?
MR. SHEA: That i s c o r r e c t .
MR. ChhDMLLL,-. That i s , I tn ink tha t i s , takeh
care o f a l l of our pre l ixa inary xaatters, Your lionor
THE COURT: You may proceed with your p roo f
and ev idence .
MR. CALDWELL: We c a l l p l a i n t i f f , Mrs. Martha
W i l e y .
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HARTIIA .vlLEY ,
the 3 aid witne.so, havin'^^ been f i r s t duly sv/orn,
t e s t i i i e d as f o l l o w s :
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AY MR. ARNOLD;
U Mrs. Vviley, we are -i-oing to have to ask you to
speak l oud ly enough so that Mr. Dhoa can hear you aiid
we can hoar you^ and His Honor can near you.
Give us your name and your x^resent address , p lease?
A Martna Mae Wi ley , 1176 Neptune, Apartment 3.
Q And tl iat i s a d i f f e r e n t address than whore you wort
l i v i n g in January o f '72, i s that cor roct? j
h Y e s , s i r .
‘Where v/ore y o u l i v i n g th en ?
A Twenty - four 0 four Warren.
MR. SilLh: I f Your Honor p l e a s e , may I move
Ui'j there?
THH COURT: Y e s , s i r , y o u may .
MR. SHHA; Because I 'm - - I 'm s o r r y , I ' d
b e t t e r stciy back here with these gentlemen, so they
can hear her ques t ions too.
THH COURT: W e l l , Mrs. V.'iley, t h i s i s a b i g
room, and i t i s not i n f r e q u e n t tha t w i t n e s s e s , in
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p l e a s e s p e a k l o u d l y e n o u g h s o t h e y ca n h e a r y o u .
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(j That i s , ba r ren i s v/here you were?
A T h a t i s v ;hcre I was l i v i n g when iny s o n - - ( i n t e r
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d I n u’ a n u a r y o f ' 7 2 ?
A U iu -hua .
y Wi iat , how many o t h e r inembers o f y o u r f a m i l y a r e
t h e r e , M r s . . / i l e y , o t h e r c h i l d r e n ?
A I h a v e tw o in o re s o n s .
And what are tnese , t h e i r p r e se n t ciges?
A One i s twenty -th ree and the otJier i s twenty-one.
y And v/nat are t h e i r names, p l e a s e , laa'ara?
A. James odward Berry and Jiwray Lee n e r r y .
Q . A l i e n , w n i c i i , and w h i c h on e i s t w e n t y - t u r e e and
w h i c h one i s t w e n t y - o n e ?
A Jaii.es ndv.'ard Berry i s t w e n t y - t h r e e , Jimmy Berry
i s twenty-one.
y /vad a r e y o u s e p a r a t e d f r o m y o u r h u s b a n d , i s t h a t
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4 V v.'hat a re , v;hat i s Janes lldward doing now, Mrs.
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6 A lie i s go ing to sch oo l . He i s going to schoo l now.
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1 o 16 ij And what about your other son, the twenty-one year
i 17 o ld Jimmy, v/hat i s he doing now?
1\s 18 A He i s working a t s t e e l f a c to r y in S t . Lou i s .
%\]j 19 Q Are e i t h e r one o f them married?
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1 22 A I have throe g r a n d c h i l d r e n .
1 2.3 0 We want to t a l k , Mrs. W i l ey , about F r e d d i e . What **
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THK COURT; You nay proceed .
BY HR. ARNOLD:
Q Had he had any d i f f i c u l t i e s v>.'ith the law?
A VJell, once he had when he was a s m a l l - f r y .
Q Now o ld was he then?
A About e leven or twe lve .
g And what was, what d id that i n v o l v e , Mrs. i/iley?
A W e l l , they s a id he had broken iixto s c h o o l . We l l
they picked up him and a l o t o f more l i t t l e boys around
in the neighborhood where I was l i v i n g ,
g Did you go down to the j u v e n i l e cour t in that
regard?
A I d id .
Q Did he have any o t h e r s , any o ther problexas witn
the law other than the time wlxen he v/as e leven or
twelve?
A No, na d i d n ' t .
Q Was there ever a time when ho was away from hoixie?
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only tinio iie v/as away f r o ’.n honie.
U Now, when v/eis tha t , f irs, ri i ley?
A I think i t v;as '6 8, sonev/hcre a long in th e r e .
U How long v/as ho av;ay f ron home a t that t i n e , l l r s .
V7ilcy?
A About si : ; nontha .
•j And hov/ long had ho been back home b e f o r a the t ine
he v/as k i l l e d ?
A Oh, I d o n ' t knov; e x a c t l y . He had been home over a
y e a r , I 'm su re .
Q A l l r i g h t .
HR. ARNOLD: Your Honor, in th i s r e g a rd , and
we have marked the three pages Iroxa the j u v e n i l e
court f i l e s which are a t t e s t e d cop ie s o f the f i r s t
shov/ing Fredd ie Berry at age f o u r t ee n , in 196 0,
be ing p laced on p roba t io n f o r a b u r g l a r y t h i r d
degree charge , the second showing Fredd ie Lee
Ber ry , age s i x t e e n ( f i f t e e n ) , be ing committed to
that department of c o r r e c t i o n s f o r d i s o r d e r l y con
duct in that he d id use p r o f a n i t y and v u l g a r l a n
guage to an a s s i s t a n t schoo l p r i n c i p a l .
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TIi£ COURT: M l r icjht , s i r .
I take i t that those are Jiot be ing in t roduced
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MR. /iRl.OLD: Yes, s i r , Your Honor, v/e would
l i k e f o r tiioni to be in t roduced .
xMll. HHHA: Hxcuse me. Are you in t ro du c in g
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MR. ARNOLD: h 'e l l , we v;ould l i k e to in t roduce
and mark them r e c e i v e d .
MR. SHEA; Complete re co rd o f j u v e n i l e court
or j u s t - - (pause )
MR. ARNOLD; D i g e s t , those are the only matters
in \7hat i s c a l l e d the l e g a l j a c k e t o f the j u v e n i l e
cour t .
THE COURT: Viel l , in any event , these are tne
matters that are be ing o f f e r e d by the p l a i n t i f f , |
and that the defendant i s f r e e to c ross -examine ori
produce anything e l s e that miglit b ea r upon the
matter w ithout g e t t i n g in to any debate on that sub
j e c t .
MR. ARNOLD: A l l r i g h t , s i r .
0 At the time of h is death, Mrs. W i l ey , v/as Freddie
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Corry Jun ior High.
What grade v?as he in?
He waa in the niisth.
g Had he ever f a i l e d any grade in school?
A He f a i l e d once.
Q What grade v/aa tha t , do you reinenber?
A Ho. I think i t wan about the second or t h i r d , I
knov;, second or t h i r d g rade , sonewhere a long in th e r e ,
g Mrs. V/iloy, I wonder i f you could t e l l His Honor
some o f the th ings you renieinber about Freddie?
MR. SllHA; I f Your Honor p l e a s e , I'*a going to
o b j e c t to that q u e s t i o n . Vie could s t a r t v^ith the
day he v/as born and come on fo rward to the n igh t
o f h i s death . I th ink c e r t a i n l y she, she should
be l i i i i i ted in what she c?n r e c a l l about her son
and I o b j e c t to the cjuestion.
THE COURT: W e l l , at th i s time, you may be
t e c lu i i c a l l y c o r r e c t , but a t t h i s time, a t l e a s t ,
I ’ m go ing to o v e r r u l e your o b j e c t i o n .
I f we get in to what seems to be u n n e c e s sa r i l y
or un — i r r e l e v a n t events , d€! ta i l s , w e ' l l then
hear about thera, but I 'm going to o v e r ru l e your
o b j e c t i o n at th i s time.
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3 Tac rosGi.;blances you have of i ' reddie in tho l a s t
4 few ye a r s , years b e f o r e h i s death, l i ra. W i l ey , as to
5 tho type o f boy and son that he v;as?
6 h W e l l , he was, he, he was, I d i d n ' t have any trouble
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2 (V/hercupon, at 2;15 n.ni., the Court was
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4 r e c e s s , Court reconvened at 2;28 p . u . , and
5 the lol lo\/iny proceedinvjs v f̂ore had . )
6 Thh COURT: A l l r i - jh t , yent lenon .
7 (Vdiereupon, V/itness hi l e y re tu rns to the
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\l Q Mrs. v ; i loy , v/hat was the date Fredd ie was k i l l e d ?
12 A January 3, 19 72.
13 .Q What time did he l eave the house that n i g h t , Mrs.
14 'Wiley?
15 A V/ell, i t had - - a t about seven, maybe about seven,
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18 A I was in lay s i s t e r ' s , j u s t a fev; s t r e e t s from wher
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20 U What time d id you leai 'n o f F r e d d i e ' s b e ing shot?
21 A W e l l , I ' d say about . I 'm not su re , but i t V7as
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24 A My youngest one next to the, F r edd ie , come and
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3 vi v^ould you t o i l me baaicaife' what hai>pencd there
4 at the h o s p i t a l ?
5 A .v’e i l , \/hen I go t to the h o s p i t a l I wont to the
6 emergency room and I ashed them and they t o ld me that
7 I had to go in a l i t t l e o f f i c e where some pol iceman was,
8 GO' I went in there and they t o ld ne to s i t down, down,
9 so I s i t dov;n, and d i d n ' t anybody t e l l me anyth ing , thej
10 d i d n ' t t e l l me. noth ing . So, a f t e r a v/liile, the docto r
11 come and t o ld me, and that i s v;hen I f i n d out when the
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13 Q Did you l a t e r see F r e d d i e ’ s body?
14 A I d i d .
15 When was th a t , Mrs. ‘Wiley?
16 A W e l l , a fev/ minutes a f t e r tiie doctor t o ld me that
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22 n i gh t , do you };now?
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Q l ira, W i l ey , uy aiame i c Ar thur Shea, I av. a Di„c:r: :
Attornay . I r e p re s en t t.he p o l i c e o f f i c e r s in tne city
o f IlGiapiiis in th i s laatter, and I don ’ t want to uo, i
to be uxikiiid, but I have a job to do and I hope you a... .
stand i t .
Vhiere v/as Fredd ie born?
A Jolm Gaston.
Here in Meiaphis, Tennessee?
R i g h t .
And what v/as tlie date o f h i s b i r th ?
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nineteen f i f t y - f i v e .
I l incteon f i f t y - f i v e .
And who i s F r e d d i e ’ s , who v/as F r e d d i e ' s father?
C l in ton Be r ry , h i s f a t h e r i s dead.
How long has h i s f a t h e r been dead?
Oh, I thin] ; i t v/as in '6 8 , I b e l i e v e .
Since 1368?
(hods head in the a f f i r m a t i v e . )
A l l r i g h t .
tJow, liow many other c h i l d r e n , how many ch i ld rou
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W e l l , you have tv.-o now?
{WodG head in the ar t i r raat ivo , )
You had three c i i i iuren?
I liad th ree .
You had throe .
And V7hen ax;a whore were you laarr icd to F r e d d i e ' s
f a the r?
A Marion, iArkanaas.
0 And what kind o f bu s ine s s was he iii?
A W e l l , he d id , worked, work j u s t l i k e anybody e l s e , |
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on Warren Stree t?
A R ight .
U A i l r i g h t .
Nov.', now where i s Warren located?
A I t i s o f f o f B e l l e v u e .
Q O f f o f Be l levue?
A Ura-imm.
U /About how f a r i s i t from Ferguson S t r e e t , do you
knov/ where Ferguson S t r e e t is?
A No, I d o n ' t .
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Fredd ie waa supposed to have broken into?
A I l;now whore tha t .
iiow f a r do you l i v e f r on tncre?
A 1 d o n ' t l i v e f a r .
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" I don ’ t l i v e f a r , ”
was i t one b l o c k , or two b l o c k s , or v/hat?
Maybe about three or f ou r b l o c k s , I yucss .
Three or f ou r blocJis?
I guess , I 'm not su re .
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Now, d id , i s that a housing p r o j e c t , i s thex'e a
l o t o f apartments there?
A Ho. This v.u-i3 a house.
Q You l i v e d in a house on Warren?
A Yea.
Q Are there any apartments around the a rea near
v/hero you l i v e d?
A Yes, s i r . The Clementine Apartments ,
U About hov/ many un i t s are there in the Clementine
Apartments? A l o t o f tlxom?
A Just l i k e any o ther ai jartments, I suppose, I don ’ t
know.
U We l l , v/hen you, you say “a l o t o f them", would i t
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of f a m i l i e s l i v i n g in them?
A Yes, s i r , I suppose so .
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Wov/, was that a ashool n i gh t , the n igh t that Freddi?
died?
A No, i t was on Sa tu rday .
U’ Was Sa tu rday .
And you say you were over a t your s i s t e r ' s house?
A That i s r i g h t .
g So W’hat tirae d id you go over to your s i s t e r ' s
house?
A Maybe about , about seven t h i r t y , or something l i k e
that .
Q Seven th i r t y ?
A I 'm not su re , because I d i d n ' t look at the time.
Q A l l r i g h t ,
but F redd ie l e f t the house b e f o r e you went over to
your s i s t e r ’ s house?
A Yes, I guess he d id , a few minutes b e f o r e I l o f t .
Q So i f you l o f t a t seven t h i r t y , then he l e f t j u s t i
fev; rainutes b e f o r e that? ,
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Q La te r on?
A Ur.)“huui.
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And v/hat kinu o f , what time d id F redd ie have to be
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A W e l l , I t o ld hira to always be in b e fo r e twe lve ,
b e fo r e twe lve .
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^ And d id he obey you in that re spect?
A Most o f the t ime, but sometimes ho ove rs tayed .
I f he yot to p l ay iny he ove r s tay e d .
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how, you t e s t i f i e d that Fred had sorae involvement,
had been in the j u v e n i l e cour t and was l a t e r sent to
P i k e v i l l e , i s tiiat cor rec t?
That i s r i g h t .
7\11 r i g l i t .
Now, where, when i s the f i r s t time that Fred was
handled by the j u v e n i l e a u t h o r i t i e s , liow o ld v/as he?
A About e leven or twe lve .
^ Did he t e l l you where he wae yoiiiy tiiat ni<jhtV
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g W e l l , nov/, they have aaov.'n you
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g (Cont inui ju j ) - - 1968 i n c i d e n t , I b e l i e v e he was
f our teen in 1968, i s tha t co r rec t?
A ■ In ' 6 8 , he v/aa s i x t e e n , he c o u l d n ' t have been, he
was s i x t ee n v.dien he yot k i l l e d ,
g W e l l , you sa id the f i r s t tir.ie that he had, I inoan, !
th is i s dated May of 1969 , excuse rae. he v/as age f o u r - j
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cour ts when he was e leven?
A Yes, s i r . They cane by and p icked , j u s t l i k e they
picked up c h i l d r e n , he was a l i t t l e boy at that time anc
they j u s t coiae by and picked up a whole lat o f l i t t l e
boys and s a id he had d id th i s th in g . They picked up a
whole l o t o f l i t t l e boys around th e r e . That was the
f i r s t time.
Q That v/as the f i r s t tii.iO.
When was tlie next time a f t e r that?
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Q That v/as ivhon he was four teen?
Now, the reason that they - - Vlhy d id they send h iu
to P i k e v i l l c i f he liad only been in t r o u b l e two tin;es?
t4R. ARNOLD: O b j e c t to the q u e s t i o n , Your
Honor. She c a n ' t p o s s i b l y knov? the ansv7er to th a t .
MR. SliLA: I f Your Honor p l e a s e , th i s i s
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rephrase the qu es t ion in l i g h t o f the o b j e c t i o n .
MR. SilL’A: A l l r i g h t .
Would you read the qu es t i on back, p lease?
THE REPORTER: ( I ;eadiny) :
"Now, the reason that they - - Why did
they send him to P i k c v i l l e i f he had only beer
in t r o u b l e tv?o times?"
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0 How many times d id you go over to the j u v e n i l e
cour t where the n a t t e r in vo l v e d I’r edd ic Berry?
A T w ic e .
Three, three t imes.
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Q And on the th i r d occas ion , tJiat i s v/hen he v/as
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A Yes , s i r .
U And he stayed in P i k e v i l l e f o r ixow lor-y?
A I s a i d about s i x iriontlis .
Q About s i x months?
7\nd he was committed to Tike v i l l a a f t e r having ,
dec l a r ed a d o l i q u en t by the c ou r t ;
" I t i s th e ro to re o rde red , ad judged, ar...
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C o r r e c t io n f o r an i n d e f i n i t e p e r i o d of ti;.u.
That i s the n ineteen - - lie was f i f t e e n at that
i s that co r rec t?
I guess he was.
Q A l l r i g h t .
how, now, you bought F r e d ’ s c lo th es f o r him, did:
you? Did he work at a l l ?
A h o .
U He d i d n ' t work at a l l ?
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Q D i d n ' t have a job or nothing a t , at the grocery
s t o r e , d e l i v e r papers , or anything l i k e that?
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U And you bought a l l o f l i is c lo thes?
A That i s r i g h t , but he got money from h i s daddy 's
d e a t h .
Q He got money frora h i s f a t h e r ' s death?
A That i s r i g h t .
S o c i a l Secur i ty?
That i s r i g h t .
He rece ived some money every month?
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A Mo, I j u s t got i t f o r the k i d s .
Q How much money d id you r e c e i v e every month?
A w'el l , I 'm not su re , because a f t e r the o thers v/as
out of s choo l , I j u s t got i t f o r him and he got ninety
I think i t was n ine ty - . s ix d o l l a r s per month,
Q iJ inoty -s ix d o l l a r s per raonth?
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0 And d id you ta):e tha t money and use i t to buy
c lo th es f o r him?
7. Uh-huh.
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A 1/ I v;as working. 1 v^ould buy food , c l o t h e s , anu
g ive hiv:\ npcnding ncncy .
W Whore were you working at the t ine?
A I v/as working f o r the Board o f Educat ion.
^ Tvre you s t i l l working f o r the board of Education?
A Uh"huh.
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A Jun ior Higli, C o r r y .
Q Corry?
A Junior i l igh.
U Was he on the b a s e b a l l team th e re , or f o o t b a l l
tean, or b a s k e t b a l l team?
A No. lie j u s t l i k e d to p l a y . He p l ayed , p layed at
hone .
Q And he p layed at hone?
A Yes , because he oven f i x e d up a g o a l .
Q He f i x e d up iiiiv.self a goa l at the house?
Yes, s i r .
U How b i g was Fred at the t ine he died?
T'. For aii.! and Jii.irriy.
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0 W e l l , v;hen you say: " He was smal l to hi 3 a g e , " hex'.
b i g v;as he?
A W e l l , I d o n ' t think he was as t a l l as I am.
W You d o n ' t think so?
hov/, you stood next to Uiiii, o f course . iiow t a l l
was he and hov; much d id he V7eigh?
A W e l l , I 'm not su re . I 'n not sure how much he
w e igh ed .
Q W e l l , can you guess , one hundred f i f t y pounds, or
one hundred s i x ty?
A Oh, he d i d n ' t weigh one hundred f i f t y . lie might
have weighed one hundred or maybe one hundred t h i r t y or
f o r t y , something l i k e th a t .
0 lie v/eighed one hundred t h i r t y or f o r t y pounds?
A Maybe.
Q Maybe.
W e l l , was he f i v e f e e t s i x inches t a l l ?
A lie might have been f i v e , but I d o n ' t think he i s
as t a l l as I an.
Q W e l l , how t a l l are you?
A K’e l l , I maybe have growed some, I was f i v e f o u r .
W You think maybe you 've grown sorae?
A Maybe.
W You were f i v e f ou r a t one tiiaa?
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as you were and \7oicjhed iibout, a p p ro x in a t e l y one huiidret
t h i r t y - f i v e or f o r t y pounds?
h W e l l , I ' m not su re . He p robab ly weighed one hundrc
and aoiriething, but I ’ n not su re .
Q how, you Sc-\y he was in the ninth grade and
( i n to r ru r ted)
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Q (Cont inu ing ) - - and not advanced on one occas ion ,
v?hc;n he was in the second or t h i r d grade?
7\ Said v;hat?
he was not in the grade he should have been because
he v/as he ld back one yozir?
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Q Do you r e c a l l an occas ion , October o f 1969 , v/here
your son was a, in j u v e n i l e court f o r a s s a u l t and
ba t te ry?
A A what?
y Did you go over to j u v e n i l e court in October , of
1969, because your son was there , or had to appear on a
charge where your son had to appear on a charge of
a s s a u l t and ba t te ry?
MR. ARh'OLD: {standing. )
A Y e s , s i r .
/V A s s a u l t and b a t te rv?
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2 MR. ARI-^OLD: I f Your honor p l e a s e , I b e l i e v e
3 we are d e a l in g with an a r r e s t l ierc. Thera i s no
4 b a s i s , f i n d in g that there i s a con v ic t i on in t l i i s
5 n a t t e r . I o b j e c t to any ques t ions concerning th i s
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7 Tilh COURT: .vei l , I am going to o v e r ru l e your
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9 a i d e r e d , we f e e l , i f your o b j e c t i o n i s w e l l - t a k e n ,
10 we, and ue shoxild not take i t in to account, v/o‘ l l
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12 n on - ju ry p roceed ing , v;e are going to o v e r r u l e the
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15 Q Can you answer the ques t ion?
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17 Q A s s a u l t and ba t te ry?
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19 Q Upon whom, I don ’ t knov;, but you t e s t i f i e d c a r l i e r
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22 A I d o n ' t know anyth ing , anything about a s s a u l t and
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at j u v e n i l e court on or aliout May the 6 tli, 1970 , on a
charge o f truancy?
MR. /iRiiOLD; JuGt f o r the reco rd , nay the
Court note a cont inu ing o b j e c t i o n to tliin Matter
v;hich d e e a n ' t dea l with any conv ic t ion?
TiiD COURT: './ell, the Court , in any event ,
w i l l s t a t e i n s o f a r as the eleriient o f damages are
concerned, i f the i - ' l a i n t i f f e s t a b l i s h e s a case thati,
v;hat k ind of a the deceased was i s a matter
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r ega rd to damages, i f any, that may be awarded. Sc
that , in any event , there r.iay be a x>ertinency,
though i t may not, f o r other x 'urposes, but s ince
there has been some testiiiiony r e l a t i n g to the
d e c e a s e d ’ s s i t u a t i o n at the time of the tragedy
th.at occurred , the Court , in any event , i s p ex -
mitt ing the ques t ions which p e r t a i n to h i s s i t u a t i o n
cit or about the time of the death.
MR. ARNOLD; I f I may address that po in t j u s t
b r i e f l y .
THU COURT: A l l r i g h t , s i r .
MR. ARI/ObD; wc would o b j e c t to , a long those
l i n o s , as w e l l as the c o n s i d e r a t i o n of an a r r e s t
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THil COURT: You nay be e n t i r e l y c o r r e c t , but
the l a s t quea t ion p e r t a in in g to truancy and the
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0 Do you r e c a l l ever l iaviny to go over to j u v e n i l e
court becauno Fred Lee Derry had been suninonsed because
o£ truancy?
A I d o n ' t rencfnber.
0 Yom d o n ' t roiriember?
A (Mods head in the n e g a t i v e . )
Q A l l r i g h t .
How, on August the 19th, 1971, do you r e c a l l v/hethc
or not you ever went to j u v e n i l e court on another charge!
o f a s s a u l t and b a t t o r y f o r your son?
A Ho, I d o n ' t .
Q How - - ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
HR. CALDu'bLL: Your Honor, nay tho reco rd
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tlio 3tatGi:ient3 of counse l , un less they are ac:rct;G
statements , or the form o f ques t ions that are put
i n , that the Court does not t r e a t or cons ide r as
proo f or ev idence . We take our ev idence from the
sworn testimony o f the w i t n e s s e s , s u b j e c t to any
p e r t i n e n t c r o s s - e x a m i n a t i o n ,
So yo.ur o b j e c t i o n i s w e l l - t a k e n in the form oi
the q u e s t i o n . The Court assumes nothing with
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In August, approximate ly the 19th, 1971, d id you
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Q A l l r i g h t .
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asking you some q u e s t i o n s , and I v/ant to f i n d out i f
you rei^ernber t l iese.
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Q You should have knov/n, good, a l l r i g h t .
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A I d o n ' t reneruber be ing the re .
Q A l l r i g l i t .
You d o n ' t ronenber .
On 11-24-71, do you r e c a l l having been in juven i l e
court on a charge o f b u rg l a ry?
A On th a t , so they s a i d , I reiner.ber, I remember that
Q So they sa id? W e l l , I mean, you v/ere there?
A I wore th e r e .
Q You v/ere there?
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3 THE COURT: As E x h i b i t 3, introduced/ there
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8 0 Mrs. Wilc-y, the autoi:>3 y r e p o r t on Fred Lea Berry
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20 SHEA: Nothing f u r t h e r .
21 THE COURT; Mrs. W i l ey , t h i s i s not always a
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23 would you mind t e l l i n g the Court your age , p lease? !
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TH2 COURT; You nay step down, lira . W i l ey ,
(Witness excused)
THE COURT: You may proceed .
MR. ARNOLD; Your Honor, at t h i s t ime, under
Rule 4 3 ( b ) , we v;ish to c a l l ' O f f i c e r Jawea K.
Ri c h a r d s .
MR. SHEA; I f Your Honor p l e a s e , more c l a s s i
f i c a t i o n - - do you have 43(b ) w ith you?,
MR. ARNOLD: Yes , s i r .
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DIRECT EXAMIlJxiTION
ay MR. ARI70LD:
Q Uould you s t a t e your name and p re se n t address to
the Court , p l ea se?
A James K. R ichards , the Th i rd ,
Q A l l r i g h t .
A Three two one S u l l i v a n .
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s e c t i o n reads :
"A pa r ty may i n t e r r o g a t e any u n w i l l i n g
or h o s t i l e w i tn e s s by l e a d in g q u e s t i o n s . "
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man i s an u n w i l l i n g and h o s t i l e v/itness b e f o r e that
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V/hether or not he i s h o s t i l e , i t i s deoned,
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i t , them, that as nn adverse p a r t y , they have a
r i g h t to examine him as a p a r t o f t h e i r p r o o f .
HR. ARNOLD; Yes, s i r , we are c a l l i n g hira as
an adve r se . V.'e don ’ t v;ish to d ea l with h o s t i l e
w i tn e s s , or not ,
THE COURT; A l l r i g h t , you may p roceed .
BY MR. ARNOLD:
Q You a re employed by the Memphis P o l i c e Department,
i s that r i g h t?
A Yes, s i r .
Q And in what capaci ty?
A Patro lman, uniformed patro lman,
Q How long have you been employed with the department!
in that capaci ty?
A Over s i x and o n e - h a l f y e a r s , now.
Q I s your - - patro lman, i s that a rank in the d e p a r t
ment?
A That i s the l ow es t one.
Q I w a s n ' t t r y in g to emphasize th a t .
Are you, arc you, w)iat do you do now in your job
as a patrolman?
A S t i l l in uniform p a t r o l .
: ir, Richards be ing tin adverse p a r t y .
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In what p r e c in c t are you v;orkin<j now?
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I s the South B e l l e v u e Marine in that p rec in c t?
Yes , s i r .
Q How long have you been employed a t the south p r e
c inct?
A Oh, I have been dovni there now working out of
South Memphis f o r about four and o n e - h a l f y e a r s , f i v e
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A That i s c o r r e c t .
Q How long had you been employed in the south p r e
c in c t p r i o r to January, 1972?
A Oh, two and o n e - h a l f , maybe three y e a r s .
Q Is your job today b a s i c a l l y what i t was in January
of '72, you are doing the same type thing?
A R ight .
Q And have, dur ing the p e r i o d o f time you have workoti
in the south p r e c i n c t , have you a lways been doing th i s
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inc ident?
A Tv; i c e .
Q Tv;ice.
Were these a f t e r the scene, a f t e r mat te r s , or v;ere
they at the se'ene at the time o f the crime?
A ' A f t e r the scene .
Q Did you, could you t e l l me about each one? T e l l me
the t imes, time span between or the a n t i c i p a t e d tinic
span between what you thought the time o f the b u r g l a r y
and your i n v e s t i g a t i o n o f i t?
A I t was about a yea r b e f o r e , I guess .
3 A yea r be fo re?
A Y e s , a i r .
W e l l , a yea r or s i x months b e f o r e January o f *72.
0 They were there c lo se in t ime, t h i s p rev ious investj i '
gat ion?
A Time gap of about , there were s e v e r a l months in
gaps .
Q I 'ra t a l k i n g about they were c lo se in t ime, so i t
would have been more than s i x months and l e s s than a
yea r , and dur ing that s i x months p e r i o d you were there
tv; ice, i s th a t what you arc saying?
A R ight , j u s t m y s e l f , r i g h t .
A B u r g l a r i e s .
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r i g h t?
A (Nods head in the a f f i r n a t i v a .)
Q ilhat were you c a l l e d upon to do?
A Turn in ny r e p o r t , l a r ce n y , t h e f t r e p o r t .
Q Would you t o l l us , p l e a s e , what forms you are
r e q u i r e d to f i l l out or d id f i l l out in tha t r e ga rd and
e x a c t l y how you conducted those two i n v e s t i g a t i o n s o f
b u rg l a ry?
A Oh, j u s t an o f f e n s e r e p o r t , goods and t ime, what
was taken.
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cut the fence to the back l e a d in g out to the d ra inage
d i t c h , and unloaded, w e l l , had taken f i v e or ten motors,
the f i r s t t ime, and I have f o r g o t t e n how many the seconc
t ime, taken them o f f o f customer b o a t s , they had boats
there f o r r e p a i r s , whatever , axid had some new in s tock .
Q Did anyone e l s e from the p o l i c e department p a r t i c i
pate in t h i s i n v e s t i g a t i o n ?
A I b e l i e v e I v/as r i d i n g by mysel f a t that t ime. I
was the only one.
Q And there was no other i n v e s t i g a t i o n by anyone e l s e
th e r e . This was the e n t i r e p o l i c e i n v e s t i g a t i o n ?
A No, s i r , the d e t e c t i v e bureau, I took the b a s i c
r e p o r t . They f o l l o w e d up from the re . The per sons from
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from the motors, eve ry th ing l i k e th a t ,
I j u s t , j u s t d id the p re l im in a ry i n v e s t i g a t i o n .
Q Does the p r e l im in a ry i n v e s t i g a t i o n normally invo lv '
search ing f o r f i n g e r p r i n t s , or i s that done by, by some
one e l se?
A You know, i t , i f i t v/arrants a crime scene car wil|L
bo c a l l e d f o r .
U Did you do that a t that time?
A No, s i r .
Q As I understand from your p rev ious statement , you
d id check the route th a t you f e l t the goods had been
taken?
A Yes , s i r .
Q Did you f u r t h e r check the e n t i r e a rea , or what
area d id you check to understand that and make that
crime scene r e p o r t , o r those two crime scenes repor t s?
A I v/alked out back w ith *Mr. Hoffman, then, and he i s
missing a good number o f , araount o f motors o f f o f boats
and there was a l a r g e ho le cut in the chain fence r i g h t
next to the d i t c h , th i s was i t .
Q Did you do any surveys in the d i tch to determine
how they might have gone from there?
A No, s i r ,
Q I f someone d i d , you w a s n ' t in v o l v e d in i t , i s that!
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A Right .
C Difl you know whether or not d e t e c t i v e s d id fo l lov ;
up oi\ these two i n v e s t i g a t i o n s ?
A I v;ould inagj.ne they# they d id .
U Aut you j u s t do not know?
A I d o n ' t knov/.
MR. ARIIOLD: Your Honor, r e g a r d in g statements
o f , in the subpoena duces tecun, that Hr. C a ld w e l l
e a r l i e r remarkeu about , v/e have tv;o ea r l i e r * i^hoto-
graphs which have been s u pp l i e d by the de fendants ,
and I v/isli to ask the w i tness to i d e n t i f y c e r t a i n
matters from these photographs .
At th i s t i n e , I v^ould l i k e to mark these two
photographs as e x h i b i t s , \7hich the next number i s
TIIH CLtRK: T h i r t y - f i v e and t l i i r t y - s i x .
MR. ARNOLD: T h i r t y - f i v e and t h i r t y - s i x .
THE COURT: Any o b j e c t i o n to tlie in t r o d u c t i o n
of E x h i b i t s 35 and 36?
MR. GlIEA: Let me see them.
( 'thereupon, s a id instruments arc passed
to Mr. Shea and then back to Mr. A r n o ld . )
MR. SHEA: (Nods head in the n e g a t i v e . )
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I f you would , I v/ould ask you to raake a b r i e f
ota tenen t about the two of theia, i d e n t i f y i n g the e x h i b i t s ,
e x h i b i t numbers f o r the r e co rd , as to how they r e f l e c t
the scene in q u e s t i o n .
MR. illlEA; Your Honor, could we put them up
so, on something, so the Court , and so wo can a l l
see them?
THI3 COURT; Y e s , s i r , you may do th a t , i f
counse l can move over th i s board so that both s i d e t
may see i t .
You w ight p u l l i t over a l i t t l e f u r t h e r , Mr.
C le rk , c l o s e r to , tha t i s f i n e .
Can you gentlemen see that?
MR. UHLA; Yes, s i r .
BY MR. ARNOLD:
Q O f f i c e r R ichards , t h i s i s L x h i b i t 35, and th i s i s
36. I f you would maka a s tatowont about how they r e f l e
the scene in that connect ion , f o r the record?
A V'/ell, t h i s i s South B e l l e v u e Mar ine , Mar ine, and
the base b u i l d i n g on t h i s s i d e , r i g h t here ( i n d i c a t i n g )
This i s the north base , e a s t , west , and south , south.
What e l s e would you l i k e to know, s i r ?
Q That i s f i n e .
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MR. ARNOLD: Yc:3, six*. Your Honor.
YIID COURT: A l l r i g h t , a i r .
BY MR. ARNOLD;
Q Then, i f you would , show us, nake a s i m i l a r s t a t e
ment about 36,
A A l l r i g h t .
This i s Ferguson a long here ( i n d i c a t i n g ) , north on
D lv i s P r e s l e y , B e l l e v u e , r i g h t on the wes t , d ra inage
d i tch back e a s t , and south back down th i s way.
0 And which i s B e l l evue Marine in tha t p i c tu re ?
A Right he re .
0 Now, I b e l i e v e E x h i b i t 35 w i l l be e a s i e r to exp la i i i
the p r i o r i n v e s t i g a t i o n s , i f you would . |
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they in v o l v e matters that were missing?
A Y G s , s i r .
Q Were both o f thera i n v o l v in g a ho le cut in the
fence a t the same p l a c e , or d i f f e r e n t p l aces?
A I d o n ' t remember as f a r as the p l a c e , I remember
approx imate ly where i t was cut a t . He s a i d the h o l e , j
aga in , he had the fence patched on the one p r e v io u s , anti
he s a id they go t i t a ga in , s e e ,
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A (Nods head in the a f f i r m a t i v e . )
<u Would you show us , i f you w i l l , on E x h i b i t 35,
where th i s ho le v/as?
A I ' d say rlcjht up in hero ( i n d i c a t i n g ) about maybe
f i f t y o r s e v e n t y - f i v e f e e t south o f Ferguson, on a long
the d ra in a g e , a long the d ra inage d i t c h , d i r e c t l y in the
r e a r ( i n d i c a t i n g ) .
U And on e i t h e r time you d id not go in to the drainagf^
di tch?
A No.
U I n your i n v e s t i g a t i o n o f those b u r g l a r i e s ?
A No .
Q Did you go on the o u t s id e o f the fence a t South
B e l l e v u e Marine a t e i t h e r time?
A No, s i r .
Q For in s t a n c e , when you a r r i v e d , v;hera dii you parH
your car v;hen you were i n v e s t i g a t i n g the b u r g l a r i e s ?
A Right in f r o n t .
Q Right in f r o n t o f the b u i l d in g ?
A Yes , s i r .
Q On E l v i s P r e s l e y Boulevard?
A (Nods head in the a f f i r m a t i v e . )
A (Hods hoad in the a f f i rraative .)
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Did you, at any otJior tir.'.o, p r i o r to January .1,
1972, stop to diocuGo the Matter o f iiov/ tne burcj lary
invGGtigafcionG were coming or v/hotlier iio v/aa having any'
wore t r o u b l e v/ith the nanager o f South t e l l e v u e j'larine
and - - { in.tei*rupted)
I stopped in there s e v e r a l t imes, but I d o n ' t
remcnibsr the p e r i o d a f t e r 1 got the r e p o r t . The p r i o r
one, I took, 1 stopped by . He s a i d :
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They wore always h i t t i i u j the rrnn up f o r motors .
Q Did you, a t any t in e , other than those tv;o o f f i c i a
inves t iy a t i on n look at the fence v/here tlie th ings might
have been taken from?
A I stood by , went the re , by there a couple o f times
at n igh t , chocking, checking the bu s in e s s f o r him at
n ig h t . At that time, t i n e , we d id r o t a t e s l i i f t s .
C And wlien you went to cliock, do you remember where
you stopped and ho-w you were checking? Could you t e l l
us one or more t i r - o s , hov; tha t might have haijpeneu?
A v/ell, I remember going down Ferguson, and in to the
i n to the d i t c h , and behind the shep l i n e d i t c h , a long
the d i tch th e re , l i k e I say , there f i f t y or seventy - f iv c ;
f e e t down f u r t h e r on, on from the fence you could see
the ho le .
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And d id you ever/ f ron t s p u l l to tiie tror.t o f tae
b u i l d i n g and b l i n k ti ioro, bliI^k your l i e h t s in f ront?
A No. He liad the l i y h t , l i g h t s o f the b u i l d i n y , you
could sec , checking the c u s t o n c r ‘ 3 b u i l d i n g , and see iu
at n igh t , you could t e l l p r e t t y v/ell anyth ing .
Did you ever p u l l to the o p p o s i t e , oppos i t e s ide
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check froT; that range, or b l in ) : your l i g h t s , or anytaing?
A Ne j u s t throw the l i g h t .
Q ;Jould you i a e n t i f y tha t a rea f o r us?
/\ Yes, s i r .
I s i t a parking l o t o f some type , i s i t behind,
behind there?
A Right , in , r i g h t in a c re ( i n d i c a t i n g ) .
You p u l l r i g h t to the middle here ( i n d i c a t i n g ) .
This i s the back, two se p a r a te b u i l d i n g s ( i n d i c a t i n g ) .
This i s the park ing a rea r i g h t through he re , and you
p u l l in the re , and check around througli , through the
back .
Q What park ing l o t , v/hat p l ace o f bu s ine ss i s t iat
parking l o t f o r , who owns i t , do you know?
A I have f o r g o t t e n the narie.
I f I s a i d L i t t l e A b n e r ' s or Peyton P l a c e , - -
the rerfjuaoLi s t r e e t ?
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have been Peyton P lace a t tne tir.io.
0 I t cJuanycd the narae ciovoral tiv.es, has i t not?
A Yes, s i r .
We l l , could wc r e i e r to that area as Peyton P lace
or L i t t l e 7ibnor's park ing lo t?
A (bods h e a d in the a f i i r r A a t i v e . )
Q . And you d id , on jaoro than one occas ion , go in and
look out South b e l l e v u e Marine too?
A (Nods head in the a f f i r u a t i v e .)
Q So that you were f a i r l y f a m i l i a r with that area
p r i o r to the in c i d e n t in qu es t i on in th i s l awsu i t?
Would that - - ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
A Yes , s i r ,
Q (Cont inuing ) - - be a f a i r statement?
A (Nods head in the a f f i r m a t i v e . )
0 In d e s c r i b i n g the s e c u r i t y system around the South
b e l l e v u e Marine, v;ould you raake a b r i e f statement con
cern ing how the boa t s , the boa t l o t , and the Marine
s t o r a g e , i t s e l f , ^/ere p rotected?
A W e l l , c h a i n - l i n k fence v;ith the s e c u r i t y dog.
Q D esc r i be the fence f i r s t o f a l l , p l e a s e , s i r ?
A Oh, l e t ' s see , e i g h t f o o t , i f I 'm not mistaken, i t
has got ba rbedw i re around the top.
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A A l l r i g h t .
I t cones back, bcick northbound, Cill the way up,
j u s t a few f e e t ou t , Ferguson, Soutli Ferguson, and on
a l l the way b a d : , and then back clown a ga in , and across
tlio back, out , r i g h t behind, l i k e I say , tv;o separate
b u i l d i n g s , r i g h t behind th i s b u i l d i n g ( i n a i e a t i n g ) .
Q Do you knov; v/hat typo o f fence was behind the
L i t t l e A bn e r ' s parking l o t on, in January o f 1972?
A Just a c h a i n - l i n k fence , four and onc i -ha l f , maybe
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A I don ’ t know, s i r . I d o n ' t b e l i e v e so .
MR. ARI.'OLD: There are some otl ier photographs
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whicii, v/hich I wish to in t roduce them in to evidenefe,
and to ask the w i tness cjuestions from these .
THE COURT: A l l r i g h t , s i r .
3Y HR. ARNOLD:
Q ’While your counsel i s l ook ing (p a s s ing photos to |
Mr. Shea) at those photographs , I v ; i l l ask you, Mr.
Richards , to s p e c i f i c a l l y d i r e c t your a t t e n t i o n to the
ni<jht o f January 0, 1972 , and t e l l us i f you w i l l , when
you f i r s t l ea rned about, about an i n c i d e n t a t South
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f t i l lovuG Marina, and v;hat your r e a c t i o n s to i t v;au?
A v<e v/ere nortt»bound on E l v i s P r e s l e y , j u s t «.jot in
s e r v i c e , and r i y h t at the, I ’ d say, the expressv/ay,
heard a c a l l go out that a p ro w le r , p row le r s wore on the
i n s i d e of Eoutii E e l l evue P .a r inc , and iie gave another
car the c a l l and s t i l l another one, and we to ld hii;\ our
l o c a t i o n , that n igh t v/as r i d i n g around in a sguad car ,
intho v;ard, and a c t u a l l y had South B e l l e v u e in i t . Vae
d i s p a t c h e r s a i d , ohov/od us on the c a l l , t o l d us to get
on the c a l l .
When we tiien proceeded on, and when we a r r i v e d on
the scene, I have f o r g o t t e n the car nuraber. Patrolmen
Koleson and Cal l ihain wore the re , and they s a i d they
were soinebody, someone i n s i d e , soraothing to that e f f e c t .
We then p u l l e d the p a t r o l ca r on north and went
back e a s t on rei 'guson, and r i g h t near the r e a r v;e stox^pde
and as v/e v/ere g e t t i n g out o f the ca r , we observea two
male c l a cks to got out and run back e a s t , and dur ing j
th i s time v/e began h o l l e r i n g " H a l t ” , the v/hole t ime, anvji
we were j u s t p a r a l l e l i n g them l i k e th a t . |
They h i t the f ence , scooted up underneath i t , that j
ho le the re , and s t a r t e d back southbound, and wo continui|:d
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Descr ibe tJ:.cir route in re incior . to the guard dog
t h a t w a s t h e r e ?
I d o n ' t k n c'.v a b o u t t h e g u a r d d o g t h a t n i g h t .
Do y o u r e m . c m o e r i t f r o m O t h C r t i m e s t i l a t y o u v ; c r e
t h e r e ?
A I h a d s e e n h ir.! t h e r e i n h i s , t h i s l i t t l e c a g e d
a r e a
U - You d o n ' t know whether ho was or waa not in the
caged area?
A I found out Iciter that Don liad l e f t hira locked up,
Mr. lloffn\an l e f t him in the cage and he, he has got a
s m a l l e r area i n s i d e liere ( i n d i c a t i n g ) v/ith thcit penned
in p o r t i o n f o r the dog, and, and l e f t out a t n i gh t . Fo:|:
that n i gh t , he kept the dog conta ined f o r some reason ,
Q And I ' n asking i f the two persons had gone i n s i d e ,
or how did they get p a s t that dog?
A W e l l , when we saw them they were r i g h t at the end
of the b u i l d i n g . I d o n ' t , v/e d i d n ' t see them come out .
They were running r i g h t from the r e a r o f i.t. I t v/as
the, the doghouse, I don ’ t ];now i f , I c a n ' t e x p l a in i t .
I t i s hard to e x p l a i n .
Q Did they go on top of i t?
A I 'm not su re , s i r . I j u s t saw thein coming out .
That i s i t .
Q A l l r i g h t , s i r .
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2 j\ (No r eaponae . )
3 IIP.. h:\liOLD-. have p i c t u r a s vtarkeu
4 L’x h i b i t 37 (a ) through ( f ) , Your Honor, and a t th i s
5 tir-io v;e would l i k e to in t roauce them, these in to
6 e v i d e n c e .
7 'ih’H COUNT: There be ing no o b j e c t i o n , tacn,
8 - l o t then bo in t roduced as composite e x h i b i t s , the
9 next number, Mr. Cler.h, and narked, nark everyone
10 v;ith a s e p a r a te l e t t e r , l e t t e r d e s i g n a t i o n .
11 THi: CLERK; (a ) through ( f ) .
]2 (Whereupon, the sitid instruments were
13 a c c o rd in g ly narked Exh ib i t s 37(a ) through ( f )
14 and r e c e i v e d in e v id e n c e . )
15 MR. ARNOLD: A l l r i g h t .
16 I v/ant to ask the -witness - -
17 Q I f you knov.f, v/ould you i d e n t i f y each of the photo -
18 graphs and i d e n t i f y in your answer tlie nuraber and l e t t e r
19 o f the e x h i b i t , p l e a s e , s i r ?
20 h S t a r t out r i g h t , I i;ant to - - ( i n d i c a t i n g )
21 Q Yes, s i r .
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23 Q P le a se i d e n t i f y the e x h i b i t b e f o r e you beg in your
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nouthwoa t , acroon the dite 'a .
MR. SRLA: i s that looking south in the d itch?
TliK 'w’l'TMIlG;;; Looking southwest , ac ross the
f ence , I ron the c h a i n - l i n k f ence , which i s on the
north s ide of the d i t c h .
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g And I ’ l l ask you though to shov/ that in r e l a t i o n
to the l a r g e r F .xhibit 36?
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This photograph v/ould have been taken r i g h t in
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here ( i n d i c a t i n g ) . You can see as you cone here , a
fence r i g h t there ( i n d i c a t i n g ) on the north s i d e . I t
i s shot in the, from th i s s i d e .
Q That v7ould be shot from j u s t , j u s t o f f Ferguson,
l ook ing south?
A R igh t , southwest .
(j A l l r i g h t , s i r .
h Okay.
T h i r t y - s e v e n ( c ) , would be a photograph going to
the south, i s from Ferguson, and that i s about , i t i s
shot , i t i s a p i c t u r e o f the fence , and I b e l i e v e the
p a t r o l car there i s ou rs .
0 A l l r i g h t , s i r .
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has hcrc/ th i s i s the area, h i s a rea .
Q 11 r i j h t , a i r .
A W i l l be approxirriately here , j u s t to the south of
the f ence , hcaciincj back o a s t .
Thi r ty-sev'cn ( e ) , i s j u s t a shot o f tho dra inaye
d i t c h , i t s e l f . I iiave no i d e a v/hich s ide i t i s taken
from.
This i s to , t i iken-to c o r n i a t e a n e a r in g .
Q That i s - - ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
MR. SlibA; I s that 27 v/hat?
T!iE WITNESS: T h i r t y - s e v e n (e ) .
HR. SHEA; Excuse mo, 3 7 ( e ) .
A (Cont inu ing ) - - 37 (a ) v ; i l l be a p i c t u r e shot
southbound from the fence , a t the d ra inage d i t c h .
T h i r t y - s e v e n (d) \/i l l be a shot to tho n o r th eas t ,
r i g h t in the corner o f the a r ea , the f e n c e d - in area of
Mr. i lo f f i i an 's p l a c e , v/ould be n shot .
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0 Would you po in t that out?
A I t v;ould he a shot up to the n o r th e a s t .
Q A11 r i g h t , 3 i r .
Now, you s t a t e d in terms o f your n a r r a t i o n o f
events , I b e l i e v e the l a s t statement you t o l d me v;as ;
"I7e opened f i r e , o r we s l )Ot . "
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3 o f the events t'uat happened that ni'.jiit and what you,
4 and what you did?
5 A './oil, we \7cre running along the o u t s id e of the
6 f c ] i c ed " in area hero i r on v/hich, r i g h t in he re , ran dov;n
7 nere ( i n d i c a t i n g ) , and as they were g e t t i n g in to the
8 d i t c h , they continued southbound.
9 Like I Svaid. I was h o l l e r i n g and screaming a l l the
10 time, so V'.'as iny i>artner, f o r tnera to s t op . I t was
11 pour ing down r a in a t e i g h t o ' c l o c k in the even ing,
12 q u i t e dark, and a f t e r I saw there v;as no other hope of
13 catch ing the)-., and nn e i g h t f o o t , e i g h t f o o t fence ,
14 c h a i n - l i n k fence and three s t rands o f barbed w i re on
15 over i t , I c o u l d n ' t g e t over i t very e a s i l y , and, on
16 f o o t .
17 Q And then w’hat d id you do?
18 A Immediately I went to the p a t r o l car , c a l l e d f o r
19 an ambulance, and a l i e u t e n e n t from homicide .
20 Wo could see no way o f , to ge t over the f ence . We
21 s t a r t e d back up. There v/as a house up on the re , in the
22 i t i s not a l o t o f i t a t a l l , he re , r i g h t up in here ,
23 I b e l i e v e Mr. ilrag owns th a t . lie came out and we woren
24 c l e a r i n g tiie gate b e f o r e he d id come out , and walked
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d And then v/hat d id you do?
A About the t ine v/c;, we found hiru, the ambulance had
a r r i v e d on the scone. Like J Sciid, i t v.’as pour in ' j down
r a i n . They c o u l d n ' t ge t the s t r e t c h e r over tiie f ence .
You can go by th i s ( i n d i c a t i n g ) j u s t as w e l l .
There i s a good, p r e t t y good photograph hero .
Q F ine .
A T h i r t y - s e v e n (d) , shov/s an e x c e l l e n t photograph of
th i s fi-nce r i g h t here ( i n d i c a t i n g ) , f i r s t nan was
s t ruck there .
Pa t ro lnan Cox, Roleson, and m yse l f , l i f t e d , \:c
l i f t e d up the body and c a r r i e d i t ac ross the d i t ch and
up, he lped load i t onto the s t r e t c h e r .
The f i r s t nan ' s f o o t got i n to tlie d i t c h .
Q The body was c a r r i e d from the d i t c h w i thout a
s t r e t c h e r , i s that cor rec t?
A They d i d n ' t , couldn't ge t to i t .
Q And the three o f you, you and O f f i c e r Cox and
O f f i c e r Roleson wore the th ree \;ho c a r r i e d the body
across the d i t c h , across the fence?
h (hods head in the a f f i r m a t i v e . )
Q .'.Tion you made your c a l l f o r an ambulance, d id ycu
d i r e c t where the ambulance should come?
approx in n te ly Len to f i f t e e n l a t e r we did fine!
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A The d i « h a t c U a r Ghov?2j uu a u to a i a l i c a l l y on tiic ycene
at Bel lovuG l l a r ina , doutii B e l l e v u e Marine, and v;e c a l l c '
the l o c a t i o n in to the d i a p a t c i i e r .
Q Then the arabulance caiae to the L i t t l e Abner or
Peyton P lace parking l o t , in s tead o f where your car was
at?
A I b e l i e v e there v;ore norae o f f i c e r s around the re ,
f i r s t , that d i r e c t e d thoii ̂ to come back over to the back
Q And i t v;as o f f the fence l i n e , the L i t t l e Abner
park ing l o t and ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
A And ac ro s s the d i t c h , onouse me.
Q That you l i f t e d the body?
A v ,e l l , we had to come, i t was on th i s s i d e , on the
e a s t s i de o f the bank. v;e had to go across the d i tch
and back to , up to the top o f i t .
Q bo you c a r r i e d the body back w'estbound through the
d i t c h , and back up.
Did you see any sivjnn o f l i f e at t h i s time?
A Very l i t t l e , very l i t t l e .
U But you sav/ some s i gn o f l i f e , i s that what you
are saying?
A There was a massive ho le in the back o f h i s head.
Q Your statement was; "very l i t t l e . " Does that mean
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I sciid I iiavG seen death bGiore# and he v;as very
near i t^
U Did ho riovQ or apeak or — ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
A (hoda head in the n e g a t i v e . )
d Did you observe b rea th ing?
h Very , very l i t t l e .
What t in e v/as this?
I ' d say C;05 to 8:10, something l i k e tha t .
When you l i f t e d the body over the f ence , and you
had to v/alk up a bank, i s that cor rec t?
7\ (Hods head in the a f f i r n a t i v e . )
Q How high d id you have to l i f t the body to ge t i t
over the fence?
A Oh, four f o o t , soraetiiing l i k e that , f o u r one and a
h a l f .
0 Could you d e s c r i b e that in te rns o f your own body,
would i t be ches t , sh o u ld e r s , hips?
A Wa is t , I would say jujst a l i t t l e be low the chest ,
between the chest and v ;aist .
Q Then you, how d id you g e t out of the d i t c h , yo u r
s e l f ?
A We cont inued on down the d i t c h . There were two
male b lacks running southbound. We were look ing f o r
the other one a l s o .
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A Oh, u’c; v/ent, I v/ould say, on clov;n in here son'.ev;herc
r i g h t up in to licrs ( i n d i c a t i n g ) , and then gave up, i t
v.'as cipparont that ho had gotten a'f/ay, and, and gotten
c\\n ay .
W And then hov/ f a r d id you go, how d id you got bach
to your car?
And how J;ar d id you go?
h’e walked back, on up on the Wast Ferguson, e a s t
S i d e .
Ue got over on the, over the fence o f Mr. K r a g ’ s ,
and come back out o f the gate that , at that t ime, and
came on back to the p a t r o l c a r .
0 What was your car number? Was i t C h a r l i e -14?
A (nods head in the a f f i r m a t i v e . )
0 Char l ie?
A I t i s 14. I d on ’ t know v;hat, whether i t was the
C h a r l i e or Baker , i t has been a long t ime. We had, we
had been worl: ing ten hours .
Q And you v;ere, at that t ime, working ten hours?
A U su a l l y we were .
Q You had j u s t come on to, on to the s l i i f t a t that
t ine?
A Y c s , s i r .
C that your s t a t o i ’.ent e a r l i e r ?
A Yes, s i r .
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Yes , s i r , i t i s the n i gh t s
And i s tlie t h i r d s h i f t not
I guess so . I t has been so
A l l r i g i i t . s i r .
I t , i t v/as 1971.
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Q You saw them the e n t i r e t i n e that they c<iwa from
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cor rec t?
A Y e s , s i r .
Q What type o f l i g h t i n g i s there in the i n s i d e of the
ya rd , i t s e l f , and v/hat typo o f l i g h t i n g v;as on them as
they ran through the yard?
A Oh, there v/as f a i r l y good docent l i g h t i n g , as they
viere go ing out tov/ard the f ence , and there was poor
l i g h t i n g as they v/ere going southbound.
Q I s there l i g h t i n g , i s there anything then i n s i d e
the South D e l l evue Marine boa t l o t there?
A Yes, s i r , there i s a coup le , I b e l i e v e there i s a |
s t r e e t l i g h t out on the o u te r , out near Ferguson, out i
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Q iiov; mucli could you i d e n t i f y concornin-j the two
yorsony? Could you 3O0 w e l l enouya to u e t a rn in e , f o r
i n s t a n c e , c o l o r o f c lo thes?
A Dark c o l o r , that i s ^i l l .
‘j Could you see enough to d i f f e r e n t i a t e between b lue
and brovm, browns?
A ̂ Yes, s i r , I could have, but - - ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
Q I mean, d id you see tha t , or were you ab le to t e l l ?
A Yes, s i r , I saw i t .
Q That a person had on brov;n c l o t h in g , o r b lue
c l o t h i n g , whatever i t \/as?
A Yes , s i r , I , I saw i t , but I don ’ t rornenber i t .
Q A l l r i g h t , s i r .
Then c e r t a i n l y you were ab le to t e l l whether the
youngste rs v/cre b l ack or wh i te , i s that true?
A Yes, s i r .
Q And o f course , both are b lack?
A Y e s , s i r .
l i ' j h t i d f a i r l y wcil l .
u Were you ab le to t e l l t h e i r he igh th , hov; t a l l they
were?
A Yes, s i r .
U You have been in the courtroom and lieard the state -iI
ment about f i v e f e e t f ou r inches . Wore you a b l e , a b l e 1
to t e l l the person was approxiraate ly that heighth?
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waa t a l l e r or uao r te r tnan the peruon who v;as shot?
A both of them appeared to bo the siune s i z e , s i r .
C> Did they appear to be the same body b u i l d and
weigh t?
A (2.ods head in the iif f i rm a t ive .)
Q - Vie ’Were d i s c u s s in g that you nod your head, yes ,
s i r ?
A Yes, s i r .
Q But in the d i tch i t s e l f than there i s no l i g h t i n g ,
i s that cor rec t?
A Oil, looked t a i l o r than that to u e .
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Q The only l i g h t enmo from the l i g h t s tnnt v;ere
i n s i d e o f the boat l o t , or the x^^itking lo t?
/ i Yes, s i r .
Q Does Mr. Krag a l s o liave a l o t - - I 'm s o r r y , a light|.
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Q I s i t one of the s t r e e t l i g h t tyxies?
A The l i g h t , as w e l l as - - yes , s i r , h i s yard iias
got t r e e s , in the yard , l i g h t s on the porch , I b e l i e v e
Q Now, v/hen you got out o f your c a r , d id you have a
\;eax)on with you?
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A Yes, s i r . I too}>. the shoL'-jUr..
0 And t e l l us about the sh-otyun, \;hat kix'.d o f ahoteu
i t i s ?
A Tv;olvG--gua(jc Pvejnin-jton ir.odol 010, pump shotgun,
us ing double ought buck, v/hich i s equa l doub le ought,
nine b u l l e t s , e q u iv a l e n t to s i ^ c t h i r t y - t w o c a l i b e r
s 1 \i y 3 .
Q And that i s .standard?
h Tliat i s s t andard .
Q Gun is sued?
A Yos, s i r .
Q And that v;.as i s sued by the department, o f coxirse?
A Yes , s i r .
Q You a l s o have your s e r v i c e r e v o l v e r w ith you as
w e l l?
A Yes, s i r .
Q And now, v/hon you, v/lien you v;ent to the fence on
Ferguson, .ho\/ d id you f i r e your gun in to the l o t in
r e l a t i o n s h i p to, I mean, in to the d i t ch in r e l a t i o n s h i p
to the fence?
A Squatted down. You know, one knee dovxn, the other
up r e s t i n g .
Q Did you p l ace the b a r r e l through the fence?
A y o s , s i r .
W Did both you and O l i f i co r Cox f i r e your weapon?
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A 1 j o ̂ s i r .
Q You don ’ t re:uer.bcr v/hether or not you heard a shot
ba to ro you p u l l e d the t r i g g e r on the shotgun?
A I d o n ' t know, s i r .
y Did you d i s c u s s in any \/ay with O f f i c e r Cox whethei'
you were going to f i r e or not?
A (hods head in the n e g a t i v e . )
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Txhree t imes.
y At that time, d i d n ' t you know how m eny tines O f f i c e r
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Q Whore was he s tand ing in r e l a t i o n s h i p to you, that
you were, i f you \;ere kneeled next to the feiace, f ence ,
with tl\c b a r r e l through the fence?
A He v/as to the l e f t r e a r o f rae, .standing on a h i l l ,
there i s cv s l i g h t , s l i g h t , I d o n ' t knov; to the percen
tage s , but there i s a x^retty steep i n c l i n e going dov;n
to the f ence . he wa.s s tand ing up to the l e f t r e a r o f |
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K'c, I t r i e d . I screamed from the f i r s t time he ran out
of the back o f t' le b u i l d in g a l l the v^ay c.own, and I gave
up.
Q 7\nd you r e s o l v e d there v/as no other v/ay to stop
him except with the use o f your v;eapon?
A There was no other v/ay I could have got him.
U Vviiat i n t e r v a l had l apsed between the throe shots ,
or what i n t e r v a l e l a p se d , e lapsed between oiie and two
and tv/o and th ree , the sh o t s , hov/ much t in e v/as that?
A Oh, j u s t about ns qu ick , quick as you can take i t
and jack one in .
U Vou did not observe tho e f f e c t of the f i r s t shot
b e fo r e f i r i n g the second one, i s that c o r r e c t , then, i s
that co r rec t?
u J h a t v;ar your purpose in i ir in< j the ’./eapon?
A No, s i r ,
Q Nor d id you observe the e f f e c t o f the second shot-
b e fo r e you f i r e d tlic th ird?
A N’o, s i r .
Q How many shots d id you Jiave in your gun?
A Four.
Q You s t a t e d e a r l i e r , I be l iever, that from the time
o f f i r i n g u n t i l the time o f f i n d in g the body, i t was to:
to f i f t e e n minutes, i s that co r rec t?
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the body?
A (boda head in the a f f i r n a t i v o . )
d V.’ould you t e l l us where those v;ere?
A On the back o f h i s head.
Q Did you oiisorve any others?
A - There was, there v/as b lood on h i s sh ou lde r , or
goincj l i k e tha t , I d o n ' t knov/, I don ’ t think he had beer
h i t , h i t th e re , I have f o r g o t t e n , I think i t \̂’as h is
r i g h t sh ou lde r . There was a p l a c e , there was a massive
one in the back o f h is head.
Q Did you observe any ground or a b r a s i v e wound on the
ch in?
A No, s i r .
U You t e s t i f i e d b e f o r e that three of you c a r r i e d the
body cut o f the d i t c h , l i f t e d i t over the fence to a
hoighth approx imate ly between your w a i s t and your cheat ,
and then you v;ent back down in the d i tch?
A (Hods head in the a f f i r m a t i v e . )
U Did the three of you go back dov/n in the d itch?
A I b e l i e v e i t v/as Patro lman Cox and mysel f \/ent bach
there to see , to see i f tliey had put a l i t t l e nes t egg |
down th e r e . That i s a term used f o r b u r g l a r y , that |
goes back and f o r t h , j u s t l i k e a l i t t l e n i s s and take
h (I.'odii head in the a f f i r r . a t i v e .)
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I liave f o r g o t t e n v;hat tlicy v;ore thv-\t thoy had stashed
there , and iiau become cjrcetly, v.’ould iiav'e to make t rxps
back and fo rt i i to load th ings up, and we d id conf. iscate
a l l o f that and taJ'o i t and tagged i t .
0 h’as th i s a f t e r you walked f u r t h e r down in the
d i t c h , or b e f o r e , b e f o r e , where tJrat was stashed?
A This v;as approx imate ly , I would say, f a i r l y c lo se
to, d i r e c t l y across from v/herc v/e, from vrherc we found
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Q T h i r t y - s e v e n ( d ) , you have p r e v i o u s l y i d e n t i f i e d j
as look ing northeast? j
A Rigi it , from the corner and tliat \/ouid be the sou th
e a s t co rner . I t v/ould bo j u s t r i g h t , e a s t , I can shov;
you b e t t e r .
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A 1 c a n ' t r e a l l y see r i g h t here , \70uld bo r i g h t along
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Tllb COURT: Gentlemen, I made a mistake in thei
l o c a t i o n of that thing when the w i tness po in t s over
to something he i s betv/een mo and the th ing , so i f jyou
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v/il l co:-.u2 around to tixc aiae^ p l e a s e , Jlr. jirciiards ,
\/hen you po in t soneth ing out so I can see wliat you
are p o in t in g out on tixc !.;ap,
TIiLi : 0]\.riy , s i r •
TUi: COURT: Or the photograph.
A (Cont inu ing ) Tiiis i s a l a r g e , l a r g o ience ixete
( i n d i c a t i n g ) .
THE COURT: A l l r i g h t .
MR. ClIKA: Did Your honor see v/hcre he was
p o in t in g ?
THE COURT; Yes, s i r . I f he d o e s n ' t get
between :nc and the c ha r t .
A (Cont inu ing ) - - Okay, j u s t south, r i g h t there ,
raaybe f i f t e e n or twentv f e e t i s where the s tash \;as, the)’
rdiotgun and s t u f f , that i s the p lace Vfhat we v/ent back
over to ge t a l l o f tlie guns.
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up in tiio same l i t t l e a rea there ( i n d i c a t i n g ) , v/ithin
ten f e e t or so .
Q Did you rel ieve the st ash o r , b e f o r e or a f t e r you
•walked down the d i tch to look f o r the other suspect?
A We d i d n ' t even know i t was there u n t i l we were
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c a r r y in g the body out , out .
v} Did you curry tue body out b c io ro or a f t e r you
v;alked ciov/n in tae dite'n to look f o r the other suopect?
A 'We c a r r i e d tiic body, c u r r i e d the body, and then
there were aorao other o f f i c e r s there going on, going on
dov;n. Wo continued on a f t e r v;e, a f t e r we took care c f
every th ing l i k e tha t , we v/ent on dovm.
Q ' Did you observe the other o f f i c e r s en te r the d i tch
area?
A Patrolrr.an l loleson was the re , and I have f o r g o t t e n
who e l s e was there .
Q Do you knov,’ hov/ he ente red the d i t ch area?
A I swear I d o n ' t }:now. lie came o f f , over behind us,
I b e l i e v e , v/hen we came through Hr. K r a g ' s p rope r ty and
climbed over the f e n c e .
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you observe any person entex* or go out o f tlie d i tc l i ares
at the p l a c e v/licre you l i f t e d the body over the fence?
A No.
w Did you observe any squad cars cor.e down in to tiiat
a rea , the L i t t l e Abn e r ' s park ing l o t area?
A I b e l i e v e tl iere were one or tv;o p a t r o l cars dov/n
the re , I d o n ' t reraemuer the names o f the o f f i c e r s ,
U As v/ell <\3 the ambulance was in there?
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u A l l r i g ' i t , coula you dnaaribo the, i f you knew,
what th i s i s , a v/ater passage under Ferguson at th i s
p o in t , or do you ):nov;?
A 1 d o n ' t rcr.Graber.
W Very w e l l .
O f f i c e r R ichards , v/hat, v/hat do you expect the
r e s u l t s to ho when yoxi f i r e your weapon?
A What do I expect?
Q At one gentleman?
A The r e s u l t s w i l l be they w i l l d i e .
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A That i s n ve ry , very t r i c k y q u e s t i o n . I guess you
would, I v;ouid s<iy - - ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
Q I 'm not t r y in g to be t r i c } : y .
I iiope you understand, wc are doingr our j o b , j u s t
as you are t r y in g to k i l l yours , because you are t ry ing
to do your b e s t to k i l l , i s tiiat what i s your j o b , that '
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A (no r e sp o n s e . )
V O f f i c e r Rici iarus, you had s ta ted that sometii'.ie in
p e r f o r n in g your du t i e s you ;/ould d r i v e around the area
both onto Ferguson and through the L i t t l e Abner [marking '
l o t around that ^/ay, look ing at the s t o r e as you were
on your rounds?
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out o£ tiie d i t ch and ’whore the d i t c h i t u e i f cj003 i ro n
that point?
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d A l l r i gh t/ s i r .
As f a r as I know, I think i t might go, s t a r t in to
underground dov/n tiiere in C lc t ient ine , X ' m not su re ,
w Underground at Clementine?
A I s a i d I an not su re .
A iiaad in tliG a f f t i ve . )
0 llo\; f a r i s that on?
A Oh, i t i s , oh, i t i s on, maybe a q u a r t e r of a mi le
from Ferguson, on to Clementine, may, maybe a i juarter
o f a m i le , something l i k e tluit.
Q In t i l l s a r ea , i t shov;s tiie d i tch approaci i ing L l v i s
I’r o s l e y Boulevard and connect ing v;ith U l v i s Pres ley?
A (Hods iiead in tiie a f f i r m a t i v e . )
g Desc r ibe that po in t r i g h t the re , i f you w i l l (incii-t
e a t i n g )?
A What, 1/hat p o in t down there?
Q Right t l iere , v/hcre tne d i tch e n t e r s , i n t e r s e c t s
with U l v i s Pres l ey Boulevard?
A I think, I , oh, j u s t to , I think i t goes j u s t to
tJiere, here ( i n d i c a t i n g ) , n ig i i t go f u r t h e r , I j u s t j
f i g u r e d i t would go scutlibound f u r f n e r here ( i n d i c a t i n g ) .
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A (.-od3 iiarACl in thvT nc<jat ivc . )
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were go ing , they were going to h i t the apartnents , a;id
they would be gone.
Q Did you a c t u a l l y v?alk out o f tixe d i t c h to the
apartments ?
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You walked out o f the p l a c e where you could v;alk
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Q liov/, d e s c r i b e the p l a c e , i f you v ; i l l , vfhere you
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A Tlie underbush, the underbush was th ick , th ick unde?
bush .
Q And where v/as i t ?
A Oh, back aga in , I ’ d say, j u3 t a l i t t l e b i t out o f
the fence a rea here , at the, at Hoffman 's p l a c e , ten,
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tho p lace you l i f t e d tlie body over the fence?
A Kigiiit.
Q /.’as i t , was the body duo eac t o f that p l a c e or - -
{ i n t e r ru p t e d )
A I t v,’ar. due e a a t , a lmost d i r e c t l y a c r o s s , I would
say, v;ithi'n ten f e e t a c ro s s .
Q Of the p l ace dep ic ted in d x h i b i t 37 (d )?
A Y e s , s i r .
Q I f you w i l l , po in t out that p lace on both, both of
tliG l a r g e e x h i b i t s marked 3 5 and 3C?
A The p l a c e v/here we found the body v;ould be a p p ro x i
mately r i g h t in here ( i n d i c a t i n g ) .
■d Yes, s i r .
A Ar.d on th i s bank r i g h t the re , about h a l f v/ay ana
between the c rease and lo'wer p o r t i o n r i g n t in the laiddlti,
and on th i s one, r i g h t up here , would , the photograph
here v/ould be r i g h t in there ( i n d i c a t i n g ) .
U 7ind i s i t t rue then that from tho south l i n e of the
south fence at b e l l e v u e Marine, cor.i’p l e t o l y around by
the d i t c h , as i t turns back to E l v i s P r e s l e y , you can
d r i v e your car around that firea and you have d r iven
vour ca r around that area?
:r.ayue f i f t e e n Goir.othin:.; i i l . c that on the e aa t nani. .
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go on in and back around,
t and a i l o f tiiat a rea i s , that you have j u s t d o s c r i b
j u s t d ep ic t e d , i s area v;hcre you can view the d i tch
v;horo tlint would be south o f where tlic body was found?
h Yea, you could view the d i t c h , r i g h t .
•MR. ARNOLD: Your Honor, wo would l i k e to
o f f e r in to evidence the e n h i b i t narked 6 ( d ) , tu ia
i s the t r a n s c r i p t o f the p o l i c e d i s p a t c h e r ’ s r a d io
log from oig i i t p .n . to 8:40 p . n . , the n igh t o f
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Till: COURT: Any o b j e c t i o n to the in t r o d u c t i o n
o f D x h ib i t 0 (d )?
MR. SiiUA: No.
TilL COURT: Tlierc be ing no o b j e c t i o n , i t v ; i l l
be cons idered as in t roduced in to ev idence .
(L’hcreupon, the s a id e x h i b i t p r e v i o u s l y
i.iarkod Nunber C (d) f o r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n , v;as
r e ce iv e d in e v id e n c e . )
BY HR. ARNOLD:
■U And O f f i c e r R ichards , I would l i k e f o r , f o r you to
examine that document. have you seen that document
g R ignt , that area r i g h t thcrf! ( i n d i c a t i n g ) ?
b e f o r e , that t r a n s c r i p t ?
A No, s i r , never .
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p a t c h e r ' s ca3.1 irorv. that docunant?
THE COUR'i’ : W e ' l l tal:e a r e ce ss a t th i s time
so the v/itness w i l l nave an oppor tun i ty to look at
the docunent.
This v ; i l l be an a pp ro p r i a t e time in any event .
V.'e' l l take a b r i e f r e ce ss and then proceed .
ilR. GlIEri.: I f Your Honor p l e a s e , could you
p r o j e c t how long v/e ' l l go th i s evening?
THE COURT: Approx imate ly , approx imate ly a
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MR. .hllEA: Thank you.
(Hhoreupon, at 3:55 p . ia. , the Court v/as
in the a f te rnoon recess and pursuant to tiie
r c c G S S Court reconveneti a t four p.ra. and the
f o l l o w i n g p roceed ings v/ere had . )
MR. SHEA; I f Your Honor p l e a s e , through in a d
vertence on my p a r t . Chief Lux has been here but I
thought lie had been l e t out o f th i s l a w s u i t , and I
r e a l i z e d that no h a s n ' t , he i s a de fendant .
THE COURT: A l l r i g h t , s i r .
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bY MR. AR.’^OLD:
'J Patrolr.ian R ichards , arc you c’h l e , at th i s po in t ,
to i d e n t i f y v/hore you have responded on, on the r ad io
d i s p a t c h e r log?
A Y e s , s i r .
Q Would you road f o r us, p l e a s e , the f i r s t , c a l l you
got and your response to that?
A The f i r s t c a l l wo got was, ( r e a d i n g ) ;
‘‘C h a r l i e - 1 4 , 2240 Lunar, a t L t e r l i n y ' s ,
h o ld ing a p r i s o n e r . "
And we then, v/e : "01;eyed" i t .
Q And the second one then?
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"Bakcr-14 and 370 , B e l l e vu e and I’erguscn
at Spor t ing Goods, p row le r s i n s i d e . "
And 3aker -14 , 370, r e p l i e d to th a t : "Okay. "
THE COURT: Would you p l e a se mark these p l a c e s
that you are read ing front on that?
THE V/ITMEES: Yea, s i r .
A (Cont inu ing ) - - Okay.
Then wo come on and say:
" C h a r l i e - 1 4 , we arc at B e l l e v u e and tlie
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And then the d i sp a tc h e r says ;
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And a fci! necondG l a t e r r v/c advisod C h a r l i c - 1 4 ;
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and dioi^jatcher a dv i se s :
" C h a r l i e - 1 4 , scone o ; 0 3 . "
<J A l l r i g h t , s i r .
And 3 0 having lool:ed a t tha t , you e s t a b l i s h e d ,
romomber tha t you were C ha r l i e -14?
A R ight .
MR. ARNOLD: May I look at th i s j u s t one
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THE COURT: Yes, s i r .
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0 Did you raarJ: where you responded a f t e r the shots
were f i r e d , o r where you c a l l e d in a f t e r the shots v/ere
f i r e d ?
A Yes, s i r .
Q Nould you raark tiieia f u r t h e r , i f n eces sa ry , and, anc:
read those p a r t i c u l a r l y at p l a c e s v;here i t l i s t s t i n e s ,
so that we n i g h t understand the t in e between your a r r i v a l
and the c a l l f o r the ambulance?
A " C h a r l i e - 1 4 , \.’e are going to need a l i e u t e n a n t and
homic ide . "
And; "Okay, C h a r l i e - 1 4 , B a k e r -5 1 . "
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Q I t was no time i n d i c a t e d by the d i spa tche r?
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g A l l r i g h t , s i r .
A (Reading ) :
"D i spa tc h e r " - - ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
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The next thing I f i n d i s :
" C h a r l i e - 1 6 , "
which i s the car in f r o n t , occupied by Patrolmen
Cal l ihara and Roleson, and they s a i d ;
"He are in the f r o n t . Another car i s iniI I 1
the r e a r . We did hear some shotgun b l a s t s . I
b e t t e r send an ambulance. "
Q And d id you r e c e i v e a c a l l f o r an ambulance?
A I r e c a l l mysel f that I d i d .
Q Did you go through the whole long l i n e wJiile we
were on recess?
0 And i s there a tiiae shown as to the c a l l ?
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Q Did you f i a a v;herc you a l l , where you c a l l e d , soiae
c a l l f o r an ambulance?
A L e t ’ s s e e , somewhere he re . R ight , r i g h t :
' 'C h a r l i e -1 4 : Did you get an ambulance
and l i e u t e n a n t en ro u te . V7e * vo got two t h a t ’ j:
been hu r t .
"D i spa tc h e r : Okay, C h a r l i e - 1 4 , 8 :12 . "
h Quickly , very q u i c k l y .
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A Ri g h t .
Q And you marked your a r r i v a l time by tl^at l o g a t
8:03, i s that cor rec t?
A R i g h t .
Q A l l r i g h t .
A That, I think that i s what our communications
shows , by what, by what tliey say.
Q Right 0 th ree .
Dow, you were, who v/aa in C h a r l i e -1 4 and v/ho v;as
in Baker-14?
A I d o n ' t know who v;as i n , mysel f and Cox were in
C h a r l i e - 1 4 , Baker -14, I d o n ' t remember. I t v;as the
other s h i f t .
Q Cal l ihara and Roleson?
A They v/ere in C h a r l i e - 1 6 , they v;ere on our s h i f t .
U Tiiey wore in C h a r l i e -16?
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U A l l r i g h t , is ir .
MR. ARNOLD: Your honor, i f the w i tness i s no
f a u i l i a r with t h i s , we w i l l not need to take
another rocess f o r f a m i l i a r i z a t i o n purposes . We
wish to in t roduce in to ev idence tiie document
e n t i t l e d : " P r e l i n i n a r y Report, ' * which i s one of
the documents we r e ce iv e d on Monday, \/as one in
which the, th.at had, have been d i s c ove ry d i s p u t e s .
HR. SliL/A: I 'm sure he has not seen i t .
MR. ARNOLD: We wish to in t roduce t h i s in ro
evidence and nark i t L ' xhib i t 6 (n) .
TiiL COURT: There be ing no o b j e c t i o n , l e t
E x h i b i t 6 (n) be in t roduceu ,
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w O f f i c e r R ichards , are you f a m i l i a r with th i s docu- l
nent e n t i t l e d :
"A P r e l i n i n a r y R ep o r t . "
which d e a l t with the i n c i d e n t on January G, South
B e l l e v u e Marine?
A No, s i r , not f a m i l i a r .
0 A l l r i g h t , s i r .
A That I know o f .
Q On page s i x , the t h i r d paragraph of t h i s preli;uina|ry
r e p o r t , i t s t a t e s that :
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f i r s t shot , the s u b je c t s kept cn runnir. ' j, but
that on the second i\nd t h i r d shot , i t apuenre
that both of the s u b je c t s stuiabloa" —
now, that v/ould not be c o n s i s t e n t with wliat you have
j u s t s t a t e d to us.
Did you, a t any t ime, ever make such a stater.ient
to your s u p e r i o r s in that they were us ing to prepare
th i s report?
A K’hat do you mean, s i r ?
Q That you observed , that you observed the s u b j e c t s ,
i t appeared tha t both o f these s u b j e c t s stumbled on the
second and t h i r d shot?
A hXG you t a l k in g about as 1 f i r e d one, two and three?
Q Yes, s i r ; yes , s i r .
A l.n iny memory, i f my meiaory se rves me r i g h t , a l i t t l e
w h i l e , and I never d id see a r e a son a b le - - ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
U j.n ot l icr words , i f you had q u i t — ( i n t e r r u p t e d ) |
A (Cont inu ing ) - - at my t l i i rd time, that i s v;hen I
saw both o f them appear to go down. ;
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any s tumblin-.j, any e f f e c t o f that second sliot on tno
two s u b je c t s v;lio vrere running?
A I c a n ' t remember, r e a l l y say r i o l i t nov:, s i r .
-3 Do you romen.ber evor making a s t a t e n en t that , that
second shot had an e f f e c t , that i t caused some stumbl inc?
A I th ink , I b e l i e v e i t was the t h i r d shot .
U Yes, s i r .
Do you ever remember making such a statement?
A I could p o s s i b l y have, as ray nerves v/eren't the
b e s t in the wor ld a t the time.
I d o n ' t know. To me, i t v;as the t h i r d shot . 1
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THE COURT: A l l r i g h t , s i r .
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I ’ m not t r y im ’j to do that to you now.
Do you knov/ what was the# was the e f f e c t o f your
f i r s t shot?
A noth ing .
Q Do you knov; there v;as no e f f e c t ?
A There v/aa no e f f e c t .
Q What was the e f f e c t o f your second shot?
A I c a n ' t , l i k e I s a i d , I c a n ' t r e c a l l . That the
t h i r d one, to x*ie, i s the one, i t s t i c k s in my meitiory,
i s the one th a t , that d id i t . Like I s a i d , when I made
the statement , and, and a l l th a t , I v;as s t i l l nervous,
s t i l l upset about having to do i t . I could have p o s s i b l y
have s a id i t was the second. In my own knowledge, I ;̂aiJ
th ink ing i t was the t h i r d one.
Q A l l r i g h t .
A I 'm th ink ing that i t v/as the t h i r d one.
Q I s n ’ t i t t rue that you f i r e d so q u i c k ly that you.
c o u l d n ' t have observed the e f f e c t s o f the f i r s t shot
and the second shot?
A No, s i r . V/hen the t h i r d one, a f t e r the t h i r d shot
he went down. lie went down s tumbl ing , both o f them
appeared to stumble , I mean, because I q u i t , I d i d n ' t
f i r e tlio f our th one that I had in there because I knew
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Could you have f i r e d those three shots qu icker or
d id you f i r e theci as q u i c k ly as you could f i r e three
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A The f i r s t shot I f i r e d , there v;as a l i g h t c j e c t i c n
something wrong. The second and t h i r d shots v;ere f i r e d
j u s t s p l i t seconds o f g e t t i n g the gun back r i g h t .
Q As q u i c k ly as you could pump the shotgun, you f i r e
A As q u ick ly as 1 could pump the shotgun, I f i r e d ,
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Q You e a r l i e r t e s t i f i e d that you d o n ' t know wno firc(}i
f i r s t , whether i t v;as you or O f f i c e r Cox? '
A Um-huia.
U Is there any way tiiat you could t e l l us that i t
was your shot that had the e f f e c t ? flow could you make
that o b s e r v a t i o n i f he v;as f i r i n g wlien you were f i r i n g ?
A I had then beaded dov/n the b e s t I cou ld , pointed
at the back o f both o f them as they were running.
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A (Nods head in the n e g a t i v e . )
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Q Did - - how many t i i ’ies d id you say he f i r e d ? I 'm
s o r r y , I doi^' t remember your statement .
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A I don ’ t r e c a l l , s i r , I sv/ear I d o n ' t . I t , we i^oth
were a ln o s t in s tan taneous . W’e both s t a r t e d - -
Q And they v/erc, they v/ere a l s o , that p e r i o d of t ine
\vas o i raultaneous, i s that yovir stateruont?
A ' To me the pe r iod o f t in e was s i n u l t a n e o u s , r i « jh t .
Q Which one o f you took a p o s i t i o n to f i r e f i r s t ?
A Both at the same tircie. We, l i k o I s a i d , \/e were
h o l l e r i n g and eve ry th ing l i k e that , and then nothing
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t r y in g to g e t them to stop b e f o r e we sho t .
W Did you see him p u l l h i s s e r v i c e r e v o l v e r a f t e r
you, b e f o r e you s t a r t e d to shoot?
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Yg s , a i r .
That ia c o r r e c t .
THE COURT: Just a iTiinute, nentleiaen, i f you
w i l l .
I d o n ' t want to i n t e r r u p t you, but I have get
a communication from my j u r y .
(Whereupon, a sh o r t bench con ference was
had between the Court and the a t to rneys in
another case not p e r t a i n i n g to th i s p r o
ceedings . )
THE COURT: A l l r i g l i t , s i r , you may rcsuiae.
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U A l l r i g h t .
A Would you ask the qu es t ion again?
Q I w i l l ask i t aga in i f I can.
O f f i c e r Cox v/as not in your d i r e c t l i n e o f v i s i o n ,
is that cor rec t?
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he s t a r t e d backing up on the h i l l .
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a f t e r he v;alkod backv/arcis up that h i l l ?
A I 'ni , I 'm not su re .
hut you saw him withdraw h is s o r v i c a r e v o l v e r?
Yes , s i r .
And you sav; him v/alk backv/ards?
(bods head in the a f f i r m a t i v e . )
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MR. 7V.RNOLD: That i s a l l . Your Honor.
Tiir. COURT: A l l r i g h t .
Mr. Shea, you may e i t h e r examine the w i tness
at th i s time or r e s e r v e any examinat ion that you
wish o f th i s w itness as a p a r t o f your own proof?
HR. SHEA: I v;ould l i k e to r e c a l l the w i tness
as p a r t or our p r o o f .
THE COURT: A l l r i g h t , s i r , you may step do\^n
(Witness excused)
HR. IvRlJOLD: Your Honor, a t t h i s t ime, we
would l i k e to o f f e r in to evidence the d ep o s i t i o n s
o f O f f i c e r R ichards , O f f i c e r Cox, O f f i c e r Callihair.
and O f f i c e r Roloson.
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20 THE COURT; d e l l , w e l l , in any case , are you
l 21 e n t i t l e d to put a v/itness on and examine him as to
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I t i s ovir p o s i t i o n th a t , that they arc not neces
s a r i l y on the, cov'ering e x a c t l y the aaine su b j e c t
n a t t e r and that where the d e p o s i t i o n covers d i f
f e r e n t matters that can be o f f e r e d .
Tllk COURT: W e l l , I 'm going to permit you to
do th i s in the case of R ichards , but th i s i s a
r u l i n g , r i g h t now, and in any fu tu re thi i ig , and
I 'm going to make a mental note o f , Mr. C a ld w e l l
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token in d i s cove ry as a l s o p r o o f . That i s , thare i
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the adverse p a r ty and then a l s o the d i s c ove ry depo
s i t i o n , submit a sworn d e p o s i t i o n .
MR. CALD7ELL; I f Your Honor p l e a s e , i f I may|
i n t e r j e c t . !
The r u l e p e r t a i n i n g to the adverse p a r t y , as
I understand i t , docs not p reven t , i n the absence
o f the adverse p a r t y , and v/e agree v/ith Your honor
that v;o should go through a broad range o f a u v o r s e l - -
r i g h t and a u th o r i t y to do that .
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a u th o r i t y has , the Court has the a u t h o r i t y , not to
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MR. CALDh'ELL: I d o n ' t d i spu te th a t . I agree
that tho Court can r e j e c t .
THE COURT: That i s tho v;ay i t i s going to
bo. Ue are going to p o r u i t you to in t roduco Mr.
R ichards ' d e p o s i t i o n , even though you have put hiru
on the s tand , v;e are going to l e t you go ahead and
proceed . I am not going to admit tho testimony of
the w i tness and the d e p o s i t i o n .
MR. ChLDifELL; h 'e l l , there might bo otner
th ings in the adverse p a r t i e s ' d e p o s i t i o n which
we v;ould l i k e to in t ro du ce , which would not be
cumulat ive of anything that , which wan gone in to
with the p a r ty on the w i tness stand , and I j u s t
would l i k e to make that c l e a r , j u s t because v/c do
c a l l an adverse p a r t y , o r j u s t because someone i s
c a l l e d to the stand, does not i n c lu d e , p rec lude us
from in t roduc ing i>art o f the d e p o s i t i o n because he
docs not have, that which he has not t e s t i f i e d to
\/hile ha was on the s tand .
THE COURT: A l l r i g h t , do you want to be
heard?
MR. SHEA; I f Your Honor p l e a s e , they are
THU COUUT: The Court i s r u l i n g that the
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has s a i d . xou have the r i g h t , v;hi le thi^- w i tness
i s on the stand , to ask hiia every th ing that he
v;ants, every th ing that i s covered in the d e p o s i t i o n ,
and I f e e l that ho shou ld do that r a t h e r than at
a l a t e r time su bn i t the d e p o s i t i o n . I don ’ t think
that i s f a i r . I d o n ' t think the? r u l e s r e q u i r e or
p e r m i t .
YlIE COURT: W e l l , I am g o in g to so r u l e , i t
you choose your r i g h t to c a l l an adverse p a r t y ,
then you v ; i l l examine that adverse p a r ty and tiiat
i s going to be the p ro o f and evidence that you are
going to p re sent of an adverse p a r t y .
I f you are going to p resent h i s d e p o s i t i o n ,
under the Rule, then you laay p re sent h is deposit ion. ,
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him a l s o as a s o - c a l l e d adverse p a r t y .
MR. CALD./RLL: Does that mean Hr. Richards?
THE COURT: Ho, s i r , I make the excep t ion in
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r u l i n g i s that you w i l l e i t h e r c a l l an adverse
p a r t y , i f you seek to g a t in h i s p r o o f and ev idence ,
test imony, and you can examine him on the stand ,
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I t luay be nrir];Gd as an e x h i b i t and I ‘ ;a sure
you w i l l cjGt the b e n e f i t o f t!iat perhaps , on a pp e l
l a t e r ev iew , but tJiis Court i s n ' t goiny to look at
the d e p o s i t i o n i f you have brought him as an
adverse pa r ty as a w itness^
HR. C/vLDWbLL; We do take excep t ion to the
C o u r t ' s r u l i n g .
Tiu: COURT; A l l r i g h t , s i r .
I ara not p r e c lu d in g you, in the case of
Richards , because that has a l r eady been done, but
that i s the r u l e from here on.
MR. SHEA: Your Honor, j u s t to make the rocorc
c l e a r , I would o b j e c t to the i n t r o d u c t i o n o f Mr,
R ic h a rd ' s .
Tim COURT: I understand . The reco rd v ; i l i so
note .
MR. ARUOLD: I wish to c a l l the C o u r t ' s a t t e n
t io n to the d e p o s i t i o n o f P. J. Cox, a t page f o r t y -
one, l i n e s n ineteen through tv;enty- f o u r .
MR. HHRA; Excuse me, i f Your Honor xj lease.
Mr, Cox i s he re . I t i s my understand ing that
Your Honor has ru l ed they c a n ' t use the depo s i t i on
and c a l l him as an adverse p a r t y .
THE COURT; That i s c o r r e c t .
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How, v/hero i s , \men i a the, v;hat i s the p u r
pose of read ing frot; i lr, Cox ’ s d e p o s i t i o n at th i s
time, i f he is - - - excuso rae, I can ask t h i s questicri
Are you going to c a l l Mr. Cox as an adversje party?
MR. AKHOLD: Ho, not under the C o u r t ’ s r u l i n g
I d en ’ t p lan to .
Till: COURT; The pa r ty i s c e r t a i n l y f r e e , f o r
c l a r i f i c a t i o n , you r e a l i z e then i t i s in troduced
i f i t i s a d e p o s i t i o n to be in t roduced , the Court
w i l l read thcit d e p o s i t i o n , but the p a r ty i s c e r
t a i n l y f r e e to c a l l to the C o u r t ' s a t t e n t i o n those
p a r t i c u l a r pos t ions v/hich they f e e l o f s i g n i f i c a n c e
and p a r t i c u l a r l y p e r t i n e n t to show, and Mr. Arnold
i s f r e e to road v;hatevcr p o r t i o n s o f the d e p o s i t i c n
that he d e s i r e s to go in to h is p roo f and ev idence .
MR. ARHOLD; No, s i r , v/e are not , t h i s i s a |
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TIIR COURT; But you may c a l l to the C o u r t ' s i
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HR. SHUA; A l l r i g h t .
Nov/, Mr. Cox i s going to be c a l l e d as a v/it-
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d e p o s i t i o n now v/hilo tne p l a i n t i f f ̂ the co;.)piainan^
i s s t i l l pu t t ing on h is p roo f in ch ie f?
Till; COURT; Liecause, i t i s be ing p resented
under the Rule, Hr. Shea. Tncro i s an
to be an in c r e a s in g p ro b l e n , that the Court has ,
with regard to m a n a g a b i l i t y . I 'm not t a lk in g
about th i s p a r t i c u l a r l a w s u i t , but most, more i'l'e-
quent ly , the p l a i n t i f f i s p u t t ing on the defendant
v;itno3ses and many times there i s nothing l e f t f o r
the defendant to put on.
HR. SHEA: That i s what I 'm th ink ing o f .
THE COURT: Sometimes that i s the case , and
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procedure , but the Court ru led that the p l a i n t i f f Ij
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our p roo f in c h i e f , v/e wish to c a l l the C o u r t ' s |
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THE COURT; And v/e r e s e r v e the r i g h t o f the !
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w i l l po in t out , w i l l be c l o s e l y l im i t e d to the
matters that are b rought out in any subsequent
examinat ion by the defendant o f that pa r ty as the
d e f e n d a n t ' s w i tn e s s .
In o ther words , there w i l l not be , p a r t i c u l a r l y
in the case o f R ichards , the. p l a i n t i f f s , to be abl^
to be ab le to, to be a f f o r d e d to examine him, the
Court does not f e e l tha t i t i s a f a i r procedure at
a l l .
MR. flllEA: I d o n ' t e i t h e r .
THK COURT: A l l r i g h t , s i r .
MR. ARb’OLD: I f the Court plea.se, o b v i o u s ly
s t a t i n g . I 'm read ing from the d e p o s i t i o n o f P. J.
Cox ,
MR. SHEA: What page now, i^lease?
MR. ARNOLD; Page f o r t y - o n e , l i n e f i f t e e n
through tv/enty-f o u r .
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"Quest ion : Did you r e c e i v e any t r a i n i n g
e i t h e r at the p o l i c e academy or a f t e r that
that when you are us ing a f i r e a rm you are
supposed to shoot to l . i l l or shoot to v/ound
or shoot to c r i p p l e ? |
"Answer: We v/ore taught to shoot to k i l l
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"Q u e s t i o n : v.'hen you p u l l e d the tri>.jger
on that gun, you shoot to k i l l ?
"Answer: R i g h t . "
THh COURT; Gentlemen^ wo w i l l have to break
at th i s p o i n t . We have a message from the j u r y .
HR. CALDWELL: Your Honor, we in tended to
s t a r t v/ith Ch ie f L u x ' s testimony next , but I think
there are luatters that v ; i l l take up some time.
May be freshex- to s t a r t with him in the morning.
MR. SHEA; Can he be excused then, perhaps ,
nay he be excused?
MR, CAL DWE LL: Yes, s i r .
MR. SHEA; Your Honor, w e ' l l s t a r t aga in at
nine th i r t y ?
THE COURT; S t a r t aga in at nine f i f t e e n .
HR. SHEA: Nine f i f t e e n .
MR, CALDWELL; Your Honor, in o rde r to c l e a r
up the d i spu te about the dc -poa i t ions , and the
o b j e c t i o n in t h e i r i n t e r r o g a t o r i e n , not j u s t the
p o r t i o n s that we read - - ( i n t e r r u p t e d )
THE COURT; Yes , s i r , u n l e s s , un less we need
to o th e rw i s e , I v/i l l ask the p a r t i e s to n;ark the
p o r t i o n s o f the d e p o s i t i o n which they deem to bo |
p e r t i n e n t nnd m a t e r i a l , and then w ith the opportun ity
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c f the o ther a ide to , i f they f e e l that th i s i s net
a f a i r r e p r e s e n t a t i o n o f what i s so t f o r t h in the
d e p o s i t i o n , .suggest o ther p o r t i on s th a t , in the
event that i t i s , i t iniglit p re sen t a d i s t o r t i o n to
cons ide r those a d d i t i o n a l p o r t i o n s , but I arn p r e
suming in th i s in s t a n c e , that you a re moving the
d e p o s i t i o n s o f Cox, Rolcson, Ca l l iham, Mr. R ich a rd i ,
in t h e i r e n t i r e t y in to evidence?
MR. CALDVlELL: Tliat i s c o r r e c t , Your Honor.
TKi: COURT; A l l r i g h t , s i r .
MR, SHEA; Just as a matter o f t r y in g to
understand, why, i f they are in t ro du c in g the whole
th ing , I would l i k e to have them a l l road .
THE COURT; Mr. Shea, you w i l l have an oppor
tu n i t y , v;hcn your time coiaes, to p o in t out any par
t i c u l a r n a t t e r that you wish to , i f you wish to
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r ega rd to the n a t t e r s tha t have been submitted .
hs 1 e x p l a in e d , counse l f o r the p l a i n t i f f , in
in t ro du c in g these items i n to ev idence , the Court
i s going to cons ide r i t a l l and road i t a l l , but
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prov ided they are not extended uiatte rs , then the j
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unusual procedure!. Your Honor, to permit these
peop le to invoke the p a r t i c u l a r r u l e .
Tim COURT: Yes, s i r .
MR. GHHA; by ca l l in '^ an adverse p a r ty and
us ing the d e p o s i t i o n , and then, w e l l , I guess Your
Honor has cured the p o in t by saying y o u *11 read
the e n t i r e d e p o s i t i o n , but i t i s j u s t not the p a r t
that they p o in t ou t .
THE COURT: I f any p o r t i o n o f a d e p o s i t i o n
des i g n a te d , as the Court understands i t , under the
r u l e s , i f an adverse p a r ty does not f o c i that i s
f a i r and r e a s o n a b le , i f i t i s be ing sensuous, i s
be ing cut out , or i f i t i s be ing o f f e r e d out o f
contex t , or some other n a t t e r , the adverse par ty
i s a f f o r d e d that o p p o r tu n i ty , that the e n t i r e thing
i s read , A par ty o f f e r i n g tho d e p o s i t i o n , or an
adverse p a r ty i s not compel led to go in to a l l
aspects nor to in c lude a l l po r t ion s o f the d e p o s i -
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cla imed are f a v o r a b l e to t h e i r v i e w p o in t .
MR. GIJEA: Y e s , s i r .
But, but by the very i n t r o d u c t i o n of i t , theni
becomes incumbent upon the Court to road tho e n t i r e
r e co rd . !
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MR. CALDilELL: W e i l , Your Honor, I have f i v e
d e p o s i t i o n s v/hich v;e have not , which have not p r e
v i o u s l y been f i l e d v/ith the c l e r k , which I would
j u s t l i k e to i d e n t i f y and f i l e and then I ' l l p r o
ceed to v/hich of them we v/ould propose to o f f e r
in to ev idence , and the d e p o s i t i o n o f J e w e l l G, Ray
taken January IG, 1975, the d e p o s i t i o n o f J. W.
Hubbard, taken the same day, the d e p o s i t i o n o f
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Honor, I j u s t today r e c e i v e d then, and they have
not been p r e v i o u s l y f i l e d with the c l e r k .
How, as , we would o f f e r them, o f f e r Mayor
C h a n d le r ' s d e p o s i t i o n in i t s e n t i r e t y , and there
nay bo some p o r t i on s we v/ould l i k e to h i g l i l i g h t ,
which I can do tomorrow, but v/e do think that sub -
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d e p o s i t i o n and C h io f , former Ch ie f P r i c e ’ s deposi -^
t ion in t h e i r e n t i r e t y a l s o , and we v/i l l t ry to j
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ness , D i r e c t o r iiubbard, Your Honor, I v/ould l i k e
to o f f e r , o f f e r i n to evidence only p o r t i o n s o f the
d e p o s i t i o n , but in viev/ o f , in view o f Mr. Shea ' s
conxaents, I d o n ' t v;ant to v.’a s te the C o u r t ' s time
by r ead in g my s e l e c t e d pages , and then having hira,
i f he i s going to i n s i s t that the i/hole d e p o s i t i o n
be read .
THE COURT: 'Well , do you need to worry about
th a t . Hr. Caldv;el l? I have got other matters to
t ry as important as t h i s matter , and the Court i s
not go ing to s i t here and l e t e i t h e r s ide read a l l jI
of these d e p o s i t i o n s in to the reco rd in a non- jury|
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read those p o r t i o n s which you want to c a l l to the |
C o u r t ' s s p e c i a l a t t e n t i o n . N e i th e r s i d e i s going
to be permit ted to s i t here and read a l l o f the
d e p o s i t i o n s to the Court .
MR. SHEA; Excuse mo. May I speak to counse l
f o r a moment? We might ge t r i d o f these , o f th i s
t r i a l t h i s a f t e rnoon .
Hay I apeak to you, Mr. Arnold?
THE COURT: A l l r i g h t , s i r .
(V'/hereupon, an o f f - t h e - r e c o r d con ference I
v;o p a r t i c u l a r l y want to h i g h l i g h t .
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request o f c o u n s e l . )
MR. Slid/-.: 1' vci s o r r y . Your Honor, I thought
raybe v/e could j u s t t ry t h i s case and, on d e p o s i
t i o n s , but apparent ly we can ’ t .
THE COURT: ?.ll r i g h t , you r:iay p roceed , Mr.
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MR. CJiLDWELL: Your Honor, Mr. Shea j u s t i n
formed us that he w i l l i n s i s t on a l l o f D i r e c to r
Hubbard ’ s d e p o s i t i o n be ing in troduced in to evidenci>,
and in v iew o f th a t , 1 * 1 1 j u s t novo that the e n t i r
d e p o s i t i o n be adn i t t o d , and T would l i k e t o , to
b r i e f l y h i g h l i g h t a few items from that d e p o s i t i o n
beg inn ing at page e i g h t o f the d e p o s i t i o n . Your
Honor, and t h i s v/as taken January 16, 197a, and I
not ice that the d e p o s i t i o n bears h i s name as
i n i t i a l " J . ” , i n i t i a l "V?." Hubbard. I think i t is
"Jay W." " J - a - y V7." I b e l i e v e tl iat i s the c o r r e c t
s p o i l i n g o f h i s name.
Beginning on page e i g h t at l i n e f i f t e e n :
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"Quest ion : Did you r e c e i v e s t a tenenrs
o f concern from i n d i v i d u a l s o u t s i d e the depai
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pcroons we might c l a s s i f y as b l ack community
l e ade r s? ’*
And to put that qu es t ion in contex t , I might
break away and say that the qu es t ion i s having to
do with development o f g u i d e l i n e s to govern the
use o f deadly f o r c e .
"Answer: O b jec t ions from the b lack com-
munity, e v e r y t in e a b l ack nan v/as shot , i s
c a t e g o r i c a l , i t i s automatic , i t i s a r e f l e x ,
and I have i t everytirae v;e shoot .
"Ques t ion : You had i t p r i o r to the
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f ormation o f the now p o l i c y ?
"Ansv;er: Y e s . "
And I might i n t e r j e c t there , and say the nev/
p o l i c y was adopted i n , in February , 1974.
Proceed ing on page nine:
"Quest ion : And s i n c e , w h i l e the nev;
p o l i c y has been in e f f e c t ?
"Answer: I t i s iramodiately assumed on
the p a r t o f some o f the b lack l e a d e r s h ip in iI
the commuiiity that the p o l i c e f i r e because the
man i s b l a c k , and apparent ly because they
thought i t was pe rm i t ted . That assumption i s
r a i s e d evcrytiuie we have a s i t u a t i o n v;here a
p o l i c e o f f i c e r e l e c t s to p u l l the t r i g g e r .
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As f a r as any s p e c i f i c complaint addressed to
the d i r e c t i v e tha t v;as in e f f e c t b e f o r e t h i s
one, I have no knov/ledgo o f any s p e c i f i c com
p l a i n t excerpt the g e n e r a l complaint that they
j u s t had the f e e l i n g that too many b lack men
were be ing shot . Of course , our answer to
that i s too many b l ack men v;ere committing
f e l o n i e s .
"Quest ion : You s t a t e d the r e a c t i o n i s
automatic . I assur.ia you don ’ t f i n d th i s type
o f c r i t i c i s m or input c on s t ru c t i v e?
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i t w i l l s u r f a c e as soon as we have a shoot ing ;
i n c i d e n t . v/e do not expect approva l from the i
black community v/hen we shoot a b l ack man,
e%’’en i f i t i s done by a b l ack o f f i c e r . V/o
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problem i s to ge t a t the f a c t s , v;as i t or was I
i t not j u s t i f i e d , and v;o t ry to a r r i v e at
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cedure , our i n v e s t i g a t i o n s , and we a l s o now
have a f i r e a rm s rev iew b o a r d . "
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p o l i c y g u i d e l i n e s govern ing deadly f o r c e aga in , and
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"Quest ion : Then the b a s i c p o l i c y re s t r i e
t ion con f ines hira?
"Answer: You r e s t r i c t the p o l i c y to
when he can un h o l s te r that th ing and you must
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be f a i r l y s p e c i f i c . He has enough se r i o u s
judgments to raake and i t i s good f o r hira to
have some c l e a r guidance , and we t ry to improv’e
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crime, i s that a f a i r statement o f your b e l i e f
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"Answer: Me don ’ t apply dead ly io rce a:
a do te ren t . ;iy own p e r son a l b e l i e i i s tnat
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sona l b e l i e f i s that the th re a t o f deadly
f o rce has to c o n s t i t u t e sorr.o k ind of dote rent
By inve r se loy ic/ i f the absence o f the th rea t
o f deadly f o r c e , g iven the sarae comnmnity of
cr ime-prone i n d i v i d u a l s , would j u s t taka one
more re st ra inment o f f o f t h e i r a c t i v i t y , so
in that sense I would say that the th r e a t o f
dead ly f o r c e , the knov;ledge in the c i t y that
under c e r t a in s p e c i f i c c i rcumstances o f f i c e r s
w i l l draw t h e i r weapon and f i r e i t , I f e e l ha^
to be regarded as some kind o f d e t e ren t to
se r i o u s c r ime ."
THE COURT; Mr. C a ld w e l l , you way cont inue on
that matter , i t i s about f i v e minutes beyond the
time that I i n d i c a t e d b e fo r e that we v;ere going to
go, and there i s no need or p ress to ge t that in
today, r a th e r than tomorrow, so 1 * 1 1 i n t e r r u p t you
at th i s time, and I 'm j u s t . I ' l l excuse you g e n t l e
men u n t i l nine f i f t e e n tomorrow morning.
MR. CALDWELL; Thank you. Your Honor. |
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