Memo from Winner to Williams,et. al; Defendants' Motion to Reconsider Denial of Motion to Stay; Defendants' Reply to Memorandum in Opposition to Defendants' Motion to Stay
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November 23, 1981 - November 25, 1981
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Case Files, Thornburg v. Gingles Hardbacks, Briefs, and Trial Transcript. Memo from Winner to Williams,et. al; Defendants' Motion to Reconsider Denial of Motion to Stay; Defendants' Reply to Memorandum in Opposition to Defendants' Motion to Stay, 1981. baec6006-d992-ee11-be37-6045bddb811f. LDF Archives, Thurgood Marshall Institute. https://ldfrecollection.org/archives/archives-search/archives-item/783bbd57-de14-4995-86d5-c94f043b115c/memo-from-winner-to-williams-et-al-defendants-motion-to-reconsider-denial-of-motion-to-stay-defendants-reply-to-memorandum-in-opposition-to-defendants-motion-to-stay. Accessed November 22, 2025.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Napoleon Williams, Steve Suitts, Raynond l{heeler,
Lani Guinler, Jull-us Chambere
FROM: Leslie J. hllnner
RE: ReaPPortiorrment
DATE: November 25, 1981
Attached please find Defendantrs Motion to Reconsider
Denial of Motion to Stay. I see no need to respond to this.
lr-. -rd
R.ALPH GINGLES, €t
Plai
v.
RUFT]S L. EDMISTEN
Now come the
through their att
1. On Octobe
Stay Proceedings
tion of the Unit
legality of Artic
of l.Iorth Carolina
districts for the
Senate and House
United States A.t
submitted to the
3. On IIo
inter a1ia, denie
order to permit f
tion " ;
4. Said Orde
filing of the pla
l4otion to Stay, p
Court a reply to
THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT
E EASTERI,I DISTRICT OF. NORTH
Il.,-r'.EIGII DfVISION
COURT
CAROLINA
NO.81-803-Crv-5
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DEF'ENDA}ITS I UOTTON TO RECONSIDER
DENIAL OF MOTION TO STAY
etc.. , €t dI. ,
dants.
efendants'in the ahove-captioned action, by ancl
rneys of record, stating to the Court the following:
2J-, 198I, the defendants filed their l,lotion to
n the above-captioned action pending the determina-
States Attorney General on the issue of the
e Ir, Sections 3(3) ancl 5(3) , of the Const.itution
and the 1981 apportionment of the representative
United States Congress and the North Carolina
f Representatives;
date r no determi-nation has been made by the
any of the mattersrney General vrith respect to
partment of .Tustice;
aL. ,
tiffs,
r L9, 1981, this Court entered
the defendantsr Motion to Stay
11 preparation of the case for
an Order nhich,
Proceedings "in
expeditious adjudica-
2. as of thi
$/as entered on the sixth day following
ntiffs' Memorandum in Opposition to the
eventing the defendants from filing with
he response pursuant to local rule 4.05;
the
Defendants I
the
l-- ,D
VffIEREFORE, t
the Court accept
that the Court r
Order regards t
that the Court a
their llotion to
This the 2
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defendarts respect.fully move the Court that
for filing and. consider the defendants, reply,
sider j-ts Order of October 19, 1981r ds that
defendanLsr Motion to Stay proceedingsr and
,
'.iord the defendants opportunity to be heard on
ay Proceedings.
day of November, l9B1
RUFUS L. EDMTSTEN
ATTORNEY GENERAL
Post Office Box 629
Raleigh, North Carolina 27602
Telephone: (919) 733-3377
Norma HarreII
Tiare Smiley
Assistant Attorneys General
Ronald Goodbread
JerriS Leonard
900 17th Street,
Suite 1020
Washinqton, D. C.
N.IT.
20006
allace, Jr.
Attorney Gen
Legal Affair
Frttorney General r s Of ficeN. C. Department of Justice
fr-' thr
f hereby cer
Defendants I Moti
plaintiffsr atto
United States po
This the 23r
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CP.RTTFICATE OF SERVTCE
ify that I have this day served the foregoing
n to Reconsj-der Denial of Motion to Stay upon
neys by placing a copy of said Motion in the
t Office, postage prepaid, addressed to:
,I. Levonne Chambers
LesU-e Winner
Chambers, Ferguson, Watt, Wallas,
Adkins & Fuller, p.A.
' 951 South Independence Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 2gZOz
Jack Greenberg
James M. Nabrit, III.
' Napeoleon B. Williams, .Tr.
10 Columbus Circle
New York, Nevr york 10019
day of November, 1981
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RALPH GINGLES, Et A
Plaintif
V.
RUFUS L. EDMISTEN,
Defend
On October 2L,
action moved the
until the General
ment Plans and unt
either interPoses
and Amendments to
1981 the General A
(House Joint Resol
in opposition to t
A request for
legislature is no
both. grounds stat
obtains: Until t
the Amendments an
It is for this re
lthe submiss
previous House P
tonsider onlY th
.,
Sp
n of the Octol-rer
n a nullity, and
nevr version.
zgLln House Plan renderecl the
the Justice ltePartment vrill
I
IN THB UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
I THE EASTI:IRN DISTRICT OF NORTH CAROLINA
RALEIGH DIVISION
CML NO -,, 9I'2803-CIV-5
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DEFEI{DANTS ' REPLY TO PLAINTIFFS I
IIED,IORANDUM rN oPPOSITION TO
DEFENDANTS ' }IOTION TO STAY
tc. r et aI.,
5e
1981-the defendants ln the above-capt'ioned
urt to stay all proceedings in the action
ssembly had reconvened to redraw its reapportion=
1 the Attorney General of the United Stat'es
objection or aPproves the challenged plans
e North Carolina Constj'tution' On bctober 29'
sembly reconvened and a new House plan was enacted'
tion 1427') . The plaintiffs f iled a memorandum
motion to stay on November LI, L98I'
stay on the grounds of the reconvening of the
onger viable. But the underlying thrust behin<l
i.n the original motion and mern'orandum still
United States Department of JusLice preclears
the plansl they do not constitute effective 1aw.
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Canton Branch, N. .A.C.P. v. city of canton , 472 F.SuPP' 859 (S'D'
Miss. 1978). Thu , until such time as the Department of 'fustice
r the subm.itted plans and Amendments are IegaIIy
makes clear rvhe
effective the th at of harm to the plaintiffs is entirely hypothetical.
son that the court in canton said that a challenged
clearance under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Actplan requiring P
was not riPe for ecision by a federal district court pending
determination bY AttorneyGeneralorthed.iStrictcourtforthe
lL-:<1 r
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Districi: of Co1
defendant cannot
terms.
Furthermore,
not be final upon
objection be fort
be rejected, the
an action for dec
for the District
as they proport
issue will. be res
a final resolut
Finally, insofar
plaintiffsr reque
case has not been
prej udiced.
Respectfully
ia. See
nswer the
,.janton at 865.
complaint in
resolution of the preclearance issued might
objection by the Attorney General, should an
lng " Should the Amendments and,/or the plan
tate of North Carolina has the option to bring
ratory judgement in the federal district court
f Columbia. Thus, the pLaintiffs cannot guarantee,
do in their memorandum, that the preclearance
lved by the February 19th date. Cantonr gupra,
lear that a private suit should be stayed until
pursuant to Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act.
s the defendan ts continue to 'comply with the
ts for discovery, the actual progress of the
slowed, and that the plalntiffs have not been
Consequently, the
other than hypothetical
he
an
and McDaniel v. hez, U. S. , 68 L.Ed. 2d 724, 101 s.ct.
2224 (1981) make
ubmitted, this the Jj
RUFUS t.
ATTORNEY
day of November, 1981.
EDT!TSTEN
GENERAL
Attorney Gen
Legal Affairs
ey Generalrs Office
N. C. Department of ,fustice
Post Offlce Box 629
Ra1eigh, North Carolina 27602
Telephone : (919) 733-3377
Norma Harrell
Tiare Smiley
Assistant Attorneys General
Ronald A. Goodbread
,Jerris Leonard
900 17th Street, N.I^I.
Suite 1020
lrlashington, D. C. 20006
Pra'
I hereby cer
Defend,ants I Repl
Defendantsr Moti
a copy of said P
prepaid, address
rhis tn. JJ
CERTIFICATE OI' SERVICE
that I have this day served the foregoing
Plaintiffs' Memorandum in Opposition to
Stay upon plaintiffsr attorneys by placing
ng in the United Slates Post Office, postage
fy
to
to
to:
J. Levonne Chambers
Leslie Winner
Chambers, Ferguson, Watt, Ialallas,
Adkins & Ful1er, P.A"
951 South Independence Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28202
'fack Greenberg
James M. Nabrit, III
Napeoleon B. Wil1iams, Jr.
10 Columbus Circle
Nerv York, Ilerv York 10019
y of November, 1981