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June 15, 1982

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Case Files, Thornburg v. Gingles Working Files - Williams. How Fair a House? News Clipping, 1981. 82264047-db92-ee11-be37-6045bdeb8873. LDF Archives, Thurgood Marshall Institute. https://ldfrecollection.org/archives/archives-search/archives-item/fb454ba9-84ab-45f5-89f4-f3ceca0a172b/how-fair-a-house-news-clipping. Accessed April 06, 2025.
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..)ir;.-. iF.'.{' .l{.r.crl,t{i ;L-z:-' a(og 6' tFat\d € C U' g o o) 5'- }1 . (D l-l* lco l3 ::r.:@fRaleighfavorssingle.memp'qiaistricts..,...;'..,id;,.;.:'..l3. {ow F aii A .[{ous6?,,i'ilL, l:'r':"1" T:' I 9 -.iD:; i. ir: rri, r:,;.-'-r'... ..:'.1) l.'. ..' '"'';:i;' '""i'lil':li'i;'; - '"-]:..jj"l'. I3 --i;lr[ :). i .'i'.: :.' 'r:i]:, ..1i.: ". rli ' :li ,,,r' .:," 'l ii.':-"i:'-l r') ( ? ': :' "'i ' :-r!v 'r': :'t "" | = *;iit.,*u*ti.i"i$.iin"ila qlgifiats confuse voters, I a obscure differences between candidates and dilute the I H power of minorities. And apparently they're here tc stay''' lg' How F '-@ c I 9.- lf l(D l<n I cr't t t:I-l- LJ F"F- FV ("fr FtrFU hrrrsI -r-t*J - : FE FE d...\ # IIl* E*E -iii) :t i. ir: I ri' r:,;.- z (D { @ Mutti-membei X.C::Uouse districts confuse voters, I ;: I ; t'.i l. E i ^ t' ' tounties as I :; ByKENiniEpr-rrx :'r' - i'-'1;.'' " multi-member districring Preserves oor.nrrsr.nwr*r' ' .;;i; ;ii;;a gou"inrniit ind makes the largest I ' i' 'iri.t'month. eight Mecklenbuis c.ou11! I9':-' l11J::i;:"^1litf:o o":l:.t :i":t1.1:,': ililllil..tjl, I : a.nir *."i'iJ'hiiEiir., io-ijie-sea-rs in thl N.c. legis.lative.office. ,,ti!'' i1,", :Hut;t 5!"s"'l '1''n:'y' House, but Bertha iVlaxlvell stayed home. Stratrai '::-r:'Oiuia.ing MecklenburB into eight districts been a loser in tt" Xor.rU.iii..iion, finistring ''.?.i:'would fundamentally change the rvay our ff;iii: m,ii";'iju-r ti.onornos, the eigirttr-piiiE dele-qation has worked," said Rep' Parks Helms tinlsher,byabout2,000votes. '-'.-l'," "--'' oi tiartotte'':We've never had a member who ,: -'In a large and populous area of the county, i{otiig "t toT.u single'issue concern to the exclu' however, l,t-s. tvtaxrveil-*ii i*inner in Novem' 'sion of everything else' ber. In l8 of the ZO CI',uifott. pr.cin.tt ifong una :t:i .1'll I-only,represented.a small .seBment' one- northwest of Tryon Street, she got *otu uoiit :iightn of Mickldnburg'-wtrereverit is'my sense iii.i"a"i"rtrlJrsotrriiio,i*t"'iaiout.'-. - -'.,gilq1r-tll-9-f .l::p9::-ibilly,Y"":f1,*"^11'";;i; ;J",:ilt;;-[iJ;:X;."riH:;;iiliu; 3iliii'' it >riii:ano*rer urban..regisrator,iRep. Ar Adams or ^U'N;c,:;;iJ6. iii'irii-rtate House roday. Raleigh, has a dirferent vieiv. ''rwith a"countv :-.-H;;;Gilr-o". .ii..i riNorthtarolina's ': like tVake, it's more than thd voter'can be asked ' 'r.gisiiiiu.'oiitiLti"i rt;1j*. iegislative seats to follow: l8 people running for nine (House and "i.e'"ppotlioned on t-tt.-i,iiii ir po"pglglr^on at senate)seals"' ' ''::'i: presenr, one House t."t-f* "Uo'it-iSSOO p.opG. - 11 t-Si-S; Adams'suggisted'rtipealing the ' Because rhe stare .oniiiiuii* pitniuirc oivioing stat€'s 1.4S-year-otd constitutional prohibition counties into more ttr* oni-ffo*e district, largE r agains!.dividing counties into more than one dis' ' counties have several ilii.r"i.,iiiires, atl- ereiiia ' tr-ict. Dividing urban counties like Mecklenburg ;;;;iFid",- *trite mdst--ima[ counties are into several districts, each electing one state rep' ii""i6a with aaioinin;-.*nri;;-io itrir. t*o or resentaLive, woutd reduce most House elections - - Thad sysrem of multi.member districts, oppo- party- candidates. nents say, confuses uoiur., oUr.ures dilfereil.t '-'1' ':t jg-st thought. P99-pt" worlld be better in' berween candidates and dilutes the voting d;;i, .formed,".Adamisaid'-':I'wanted.T9i5lYttf '1.a,. ol rninorities. .- : {r ' r - : - jtlinformative crmpaigns."' .. .' Voi,ers in Stanly County can vote lor one ,.,,,,H.it bill "feli on hrrd times," he says' "The member of the House; in Catawba County, t*o: t ii.ople from metroPolitan counties didn't rvant in CaUirrus and Union counties' three; in Gaston it"',.-'--'-'- '4 -"-- ." --".--- and Lincoln counties, four; and in ruecklenoG, I Rep. chris Barkei ol New Bern is proposing a eighr. The chartotte,orci-t"C'to disiinerisn iro;i similai constitutional amendment this year' His among l6 major.party itnaiO"t.s for ihe H;;;. proposal rv-ou-ld permit county divisions in redis'' In Atbemarte, the choiiC-ii-rirpi.i, with ilvo- [rlciing not norv but a(ter the 1990 census' He' names on the ballot. explains the legislature's.reluctanc.eto accept sin' Despire the numericar twisisbr murti'member 3::f;:r"Tlntiil;*:,l:f"I'J;'";,"#"can't 8eL districting, the U.S. Supreme Court has upleld '-'krcXine themselves out by voting for single. the system in an Indiana case. And the N.C. Gen- -"-l"i Oi"ttricrs would be an atmosi certain re- i:X',^f::fl'Y; 'll,T*,1il,*J:1':i::''il''J;,"'fiiJT ::iiIAi!1i,.:T:l"Hlii,.H:*i"J:'i[,i'l.,Tili ibandon it - and in fact couldn't' withou( ull'^ ir,i'ii.iiion or similar citizens - most o ( amending the state constitution.. Proponents try lnii- *t atever its faults. "" -' -: See N'c' II9USE' Page 'lB t1:t"H;liffo'ff'l;;':"'1'";1H'Aiiirn", o'"'iiu-i;;;;-9 tino'ioJiink the group or peopre ':i any of 29 other states that elect represent"iir.i to whom we are diiectly responsible for being '' ' by singre-member ai'i'i.i, ii;;ril[4;i;iii' q\: .ill!911]^tJ-'-T.:l'-::^t^:lt^i:.'*':]9]i]tjioj;il", f.il ,d =.r! :- 'ilt-,.ad i\.C. House Districts A Waze .. : ,11 I ': Continued From Page IB them white. upper middle-class businessmen and lawyers - often lrom similar neighborhoods. "A! one ilme in Wake," said Adams, "five of the six of us (House mem' bers) lived within one mile of each gther." Today ln Mecklenburg, foui of the eight House members live , within one mile of one another in southeast Charlotte: two others live farther out in that quadrant, the city's most af fluent. . . I Northwest Charlotte now has no resident in the state House: it would have one. probabllr two, if ithe county were divided in dis- rtricts, assuming candidates were required to live in the district they sought to represent. (IvIs. Max- well, in fact, lives across town on Colony Road. But representatives of ' single-mem- ber.districts don't alrvays have to live in them. Members of Congress, for example, need not live in the congressional district that elects them.) Ivlulti-mem- ber distric!s also .raise some ques- ' tions of fairness: o' While Jo Graham Foster, to narne one of Mecklenburg's house members, represents more than 400,000 people, Rep. Tom Hunter lrom . Richmond County r€pr€: sents fewer than 50,000. i.. .rj . ,. . o While Hunter speiks in Rd- Ieigh for a compact and tidy sin- gle-member. single-county dis-. . trict. Rep. Barker of New Bern is more typical of N.C. legislators. He and two other representatives share a lour-county district that stretches 100 miles in eastern North Carolina. fn each case, there's a House member for roughly every 49,000 citizens. Yet only l0 of 120 mem- bers o( the House - the l0 like Richmond County's Rep. Hunter, 'who are their districts' sole repre- . sentatii'e - actualli' tvere elected by the ideal -19,000-member con- .sliiuency. \lr\ In fact, the northwest Mecklen- burg constituency that voted overwhelmingly for [v{s. l,{axrvell - but failed to elect her - is larger than the population of Hunter's dis- trict. The ques- tion advocates of single-mem- ber districts would ask is whether'the votes of Mrs. Maxwell's suo- porters counc Maxwell for less because of where they live or because of the way the legis- lative district is drawn. ..'Another question is how well .they'll be represented by House members elected by the rest of Mecklenburg County. "In a large district, if you want to, you don't have to be too attentive to one segment of your constituency," said Barker. "lf you had a com- pact dlstrlct, you'd have to be at- tentive to everybody." Twenty-one other states use .multi-member districts to appor- tion their legislatures, though only 10, including North Carolina, use .them for both House and Senate. In a 1965 case, the U.S. Su- preme Court suggested that states use single-member districts to ap- Iortion one chamber of their leg- islatures. either House or Senate. But the court hasn't required sin- gle-member districts unless it found a state's intent in drawing multi-member districts was to dis- criminate against minorities. ,i.r. . Intent to discriminate is diffi- cult to prove, and it probably isn't the issue in North Carolina, where the first ban on splitting counties to form Iegislative districts was written into the constitution in 1835, long before btacks were al- lowed to vote. .. : . ..."It's there because the county was the basic unit of representa- tion," said John Sanders, director of the Institute of Government in Chapet Hilt and an e.\pert on N.C. constitutional history. "lt's one of those things so much an accepted part of the political scheme of things that it was never seriously \ challenged." But while that provision may nol have been written to keep black voting minorities from elec- ting representatives. the system of multi-member districts is one o( the reasons that, while one N.c. citizen in five is black. only three members of the 120-seat House are black. For comparison. in South Caro- lina, which adopted single-mem- ber house districts for the 1974 elections, black membership in the House has increased fivefold, ''from three in I973 ro 1,5 today. The state's largest county, Rich- land. which includes Columbia. .was divided into I I districts, three of which now are represented by . blacks.. , ; . .. ,' , ;.t it.z-; "You had a smaller area to cover," said S.C. Rep. Theo Mitch- ell of Greenville, "a smaller num- ber of people to meet, people who identified with you in a residential area and also, in many cases, in ethnicity, racc end yrhatever. That's why Republicans - they' bene(ited also under this system, as rvell as women." Supporters of single-member districts see problems,. too. ,l'Smaller districts permitted greater variety in the kinds of people elected," said one business observer of the S.C. General As- sembly. "But it has diluted the co- . hesiveness of the House. Members respond to narrower constitu- encies, (and) their concerns are likely to be much narrower." .. ,, ' Those who favor single-mem- ber districts say, however, that the model of the U.S. House of Representatives is sound: Each member is accountable to a single constituency that elects a.single House member. '"Most of the people running in a multi.seat district run on morh. . erhood and apple pie . . . . 'It's a popularity contest," said Barker. "Most peopte don't know who . their representatives are." ., But knowing the candidates is a voter's job, said Helms. "The peo- ple of Mecklenburg Counry have a responsibitity to know who they vote.for. and to know the mem- bers of their delegation. We ough[ not take that burden off them." I\ ,t1-