Supplemental Answer to Interrogatories

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    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 

EASTERN DISTRICT OF LOUISIANA 

BARBARA MAJOR, ETAL CIVIL ACTION 

VERSUS NO. 82-1192 

DAVID C. TREEN, ET AL SECTION C 

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SUPPLEMENTAL ANSWER TO INTERROGATORIES 
  

20. Do you contend that any of the expenses claimed 

by the plaintiff are unreasonable? If so, 

~ (a) Identify specifically which expense items you 

contend to be unreasonable; and, 

{b) How much do you contend would be reasonable 

for plaintiff to recover as (a) attorneys' fees and (b) expens- 

es? 

Answer - See Exhibit L attached. 

Respectfully submitted, 

WILLIAM J. GUSTE, JR. 
ATTORNEY GENERAL 

KENDALL L. VICK 
ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL 

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served upon counsel for all parties by mailing the same ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERA 

to each, properly addressed and postage prepaid LOUISIANA DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE 

234 LOYOLA AVENUE, SUITE 700 

NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA 70112 

TELEPHONE: {504) 568-5575 

    

  

   



DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE 
Mapmakers and Supplies 
  

Photographer 

Depositions 

. Treen 

Hainkel 

Henderson 

Selle 

. Logsdon 
Cassimere, Chehardy 

. Lewis, Engstrom 

. Morial 

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A 

B. 

C. 

D. 

E 

F 

G 

H 

Travel 

Express Mail 

AMOUNT CLAIMED 

ON THE AFFIDAVIT 

EXHIBIT L 

SCHECKMAN 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH TOTAL AMOUNT 
NOT NECESSARILY DISALLOWED 
REASONABLY TR 

AMOUNT DISALLOWED 

FOR LACK OF 

  

$ 3,500.00 

350.00 

3 — 3,500.00 . $ 

323.36 

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REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
REASONABLENESS 
Reasonable 

Reasonable 

Reasonable. 

Reasonable. 

Reasonable. 

Reasonable. 

Reasonable. 

Reasonable. 

Reasonable. 

Reasonable. 

Unknown--will update within 
a few days. 

Reasonable. 

 



DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE 

Expert and Professional 
Assistance 

  

Richard Engstrom 74.25 hrs. 
at $100.00/hr 

Joseph Logsdon 32.00 hours 
at $100/hr 

Raphael Cassimere, Jr. 34.00 
hrs at $100/hr 

Shirley Laska 13.00 hrs at 
$25.00 hr = $325.00 Expenses- 
$56.49 

AMOUNT CLAIMED 
ON THE AFFIDAVIT 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH 
NOT NECESSARILY 
REASONABLY 

AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
FOR LACK OF 
RECEIPT 

  

7,425.00 

3,200.00 

3,400.00 

381.49 

TOTAL AMOUNT 
DISALLOWED 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
REASONABLENESS 

Unknown——waiting for affidavit. 

Unknown—-waiting for affidavit. 

Unknown—-waiting for affidavit. 

$381.49 is disallowed as no 
receipts are produced. However, 
it would be unreasonable even 
if receipts were produced, 
as this amount is duplicative 
of the amount claimed by Miss. 
Guinier, who produced a receipt. 

 



HALPIN 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH AMOUNT DISALLOWED REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 

AMOUNT CLAIMED NOT NECESSARILY FOR LACK OF TOTAL AMOUNT NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE ON THE AFFIDAVIT REASONABLY RECEIPT DISALLOTD REASONABLENESS 
2/28/83 thru 3/13/83 
Trial and Travel Expenses 

  

  

  

Parking, gas, ground trans- s S$ 345.05 $345.05 is disallowed as no 

portation receipts are produced. $4.45 
for parking is reasonable. 

Credit card food expenses $115.90 A receipt from Brennan's Rest- 

aurant shows one meal costing 

$149.85. This is unreasonable. 
This meal was charged on 3/11/83, 
the day after trial ended 
and is therefore not a valid 
expense. A receipt from Chez 
Helene shows that four people 
ate for $37.45; Mr. Halpin 
and Miss Guinier should be 
allowed the expense of $18.72, 

while Mr. Scheckman, who 
is New Orleans counsel, and 
therefore not reimbursed for 
meals, and the fourth unident- 
ifiable person should be disal- 

lowed the expense of $18.72. 
In determining reasonableness 
of expenses, $26.00 per day 
for food and $70.00 per day 
for hotel was allowed provided 
there are receipts and up 
to the total amount claimed 
on the affidavit.  



AMOUNT CLAIMED 
DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE ON THE AFFIDAVIT 
  

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH 
NOT NECESSARILY 
REASONABLY 

AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
FOR LACK OF 
RECEIPT 

  

Rental car 200.00 

Gas 52.45 

Airfare 

1/18/83 thru 1/24/83 
Deposition Travel Expenses 

Food, parking, misc. 

Rental car 

Airfare 

200.00 

15.00 

TOTAL AMOUNT 
DISALLOWED 

REASONS FOR DISALIOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
REASONABLENESS   

Reasonable. 

$37.45 is disallowed as 
receipts are produced. 
for gas is reasonable. 

Reasonable. 

$42.45 is disallowed as no 
receipts are produced. The 
remaining amount of $99.50 
is reasonable. 

$45.16 should be allowed as 

Mr. Halpin was needed for 
two days (1/21/83 and 1/22/83). 
The remainder of the work 
could have been done by New 
Orleans counsel or by him 
in his office, thus making 
the expense unnecessary. 

Reasonable.  



DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE 
  

Credit card food 

AMOUNT CLAIMED 
ON THE AFFIDAVIT 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
NOT NECESSARILY FOR LACK OF 
REASONABLY RECEIPT 

  

70.24 70.24 0.00 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
REASONABLENESS 

One receipt from Ralph and 
Kacoo's for $63.24 lists two 

others who also ate there 
(Lani Guinier and Jim Kellogg). 
$42.16 should be allowed for 

Mr. Halpin and Miss Guinier. 

$21.08 should be disallowed 
as Mr. Kellogg was New Orleans 
counsel and should not get 
expenses of this type. $7.00 
for the other meal at Ralph 
and Kacoo's was reasonable. 

  

$7.91 should be allowed as 
there was only a need to be 
in New Orleans for two days. 
The rest of the expense is 
unnecessary as the work done 
for the rest of the time could 
have been done by New Orleans 
counsel or by Mr. Halpin in 
his own office, thus making 
the expense unnecessary. 

 



DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE 

12/17/82 thru 12/19/82 
Travel to New Orleans for 

Case Preparation 

  

Food, Parking 

AMOUNT CLAIMED 
ON THE AFFIDAVIT 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH 
NOT NECESSARILY 
REASONABLY 

AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
FOR LACK OF 
RECEIPT 

  

TOTAL AMOUNT 
DISALLOWED 

REASONS FOR DISALLIOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
REASONABLENESS   

$112.70 is disallowed as no 
receipts are produced. $4.00 
for parking is reasonable 
for parking, however, even 
if receipts were produced, 
work listed on affidavit could 
have been done by New Orleans 
counsel or without the need 
of traveling to New Orleans. 
Thus, any amount claimed would 
be unreasonable and defendant's 
contend the whole amount of 
$116.70 should be disallowed. 

$10.94 is disallowed as no 
receipts are produced. $13.00 
for gas is a reasonable amount 
for gas; however, even if 

receipts were produced, work 
listed on the affidavit could 
have been done by New Orleans 
counsel or without the need 
for traveling to New Orleans. 
Thus, any amount claimed would 
be unreasonable and defendant's 
contend the whole amount of 

$23.94 should be disallowed.  



DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE 

Airfare 

  

Long Distance Telephone Calls 

AMOUNT CLAIMED 
ON THE AFFIDAVIT 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
NOT NECESSARILY FOR LACK OF 
REASONABLY RECEIPT 

  

210.00 0.00 910.00 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 

NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 

REASONABLENESS 

$210.00 is disallowed as no 

receipts are produced, however, 

even if receipts were produced, 
the work listed on the affida- 

vit could have been done by 
New Orleans counsel or without 
the need of traveling to New 
Orleans. Thus, any amount 
claimed would be unreasonable 

and defendant's contend that 

the whole amount of $210.00 

should be disallowed. 

  

Reasonable. 

 



AMOUNT CLAIMED 
DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE ON THE AFFIDAVIT 
  

GUINIER* 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 

PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
NOT NECESSARILY FOR LACK OF 
REASONABLY RECEIPT 

  

SUMMARY OF EXPENSES PAID BY 

LDF FOR TRAVEL, FOOD AND LODGING 

12/81-—Conference with co- 
counsel and plaintiffs in 
New Orleans 

6/82-—Travel to D.C. to review 
Justice Dept. files 

12/82-—Travel to D.C. to review 
DQJ files 

1/83--Hearing on Pre-trial 
Motions, Depositions, Trial 
prep. 

* 

Defendants contend that Miss 
Guinier's hours and expenses 
are unreasonable as New Orleans 

counsel could have performed 
all work performed by Miss 
Guinier. However, this table 
is made to show that many 
of her expenses were unnecessary 
even if it were necessary 

S$ 514.29 

92.25 

146.00 

703.95 

$626.00 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
REASONABLENESS   

$111.71 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. The remaining amount 
is duplicative of hours requested 
by Mr. Quigley and Mr. Kellogg 
and it is unnecessary to have three 
or more counsel meeting with clients. 
Thus, any amount claimed would 
be unreasonable and defendant's 
contend that the entire amount 
of $626.00 should be disallowed. 

$92.25 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. 

$146.00 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. 

$703.95 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. However, even if 
receipts had been produced, $192.00 
of the expenses must be disallowed 
as it was unnecessary to have more 

tnan one counsel at the pre-trial 
conference and attending depositions 
and thus, two days' hotel and food 
expenses should be disallowed (1/20/83 
and 1/21/83). The remaining amount 
of $511.95 for time in New Orleans 
may have been allowed, but no re- 

celpts were produced.  



DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE 

3/83--Trial prep. and Trial 
  

5/83--Post-trial brief, Review 
exhibits, confer with co-coun- 
sel New Orleans 

AMOUNT CLAIMED 
ON THE AFFIDAVIT 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH 
NOT NECESSARILY 
REASONABLY 

AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
FOR LACK OF 
RECEIPT 

  

1,896.67 860.00 1,036.67 

TOTAL AMOUNT 
DISALLOWED 

1,320.67 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
REASONABLENESS 

$1,036.67 is disallowed as no re- 
ceipts are produced. However, 
even 1f receipts had been produced, 
$1,320.67 should be disallowed 
as more than six days of her time 
were unnecessary as they were dupli- 
cative of New Orleans counsel's 
efforts (3/2/83-3/7/83). Allowing 
$55.00 per night for hotel expenses 
as per her receipt and $41.00 for 
food and other expenses ($26.00 
per day for food and $15.00 for 

rental car) and $460.00 airtare 
per receipt totals $688.00 allowable. 
Thus, the total amount disallowed 
is $1,320.67. 

  

$3.51 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. However, $508.05 

should be disallowed as it consis- 
ted of travel and lodgings at a 
hotel in Raleigh, N.C.prior to 
arrival in New Orleans and there 
are no hotel or other expense re- 
ceipts while in New Orleans and 
work performed could have been 
done by New Orleans counsel or 
by Miss Guinier in her own office. 
Therefore, the total amount of 

$508.05 should be disallowed.  



AMOUNT CLAIMED 
DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE ON THE AFFIDAVIT 
  

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
NOT NECESSARTLY FOR LACK OF 
REASONABLY RECEIPT 

  

6/83--Local taxis 35.65 

Hearing, New Orleans 478.59 

Hearing, New Orleans (NBW) 

0.00 35.65 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
REASONABLENESS 

$35.65 is disallowed as there are 
no receipts produced. 

  

$478.59 should be disallowed as 
it was unnecessary for out of town 
counsel to argue this motion and 
work could have been done by New 

Orleans counsel. 

These amounts are unreasonable 
as Napoleon Williams was a staff 
attorney who had no relation to 
the case, was not listed as counsel 
of record, did not argue this motion, 
was not a witness at this motion, 

was not used at trial, and was 
not a witness at trial. His expense 
report lists his purpose for this 
trip as two-fold: to participate 
in Preparation for argument in 
Major v. Treen and to attend Civil 
Rights conference in Birmingham, 
Ala. To bring such attorney from 
New York to New Orleans to "partici- 
pate in preparation for argument" 
of a post-trial motion is patently 
excessive on its face. Defendant's 
disallow the entire $535.75. 

  

 



DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE 

7/84—-Local taxis 
  

SUMMARY OF LDF EXPENSES FOR 
MAJOR V. TREEN   

Photocopying at .15 per page 

AMOUNT CLAIMED 
ON THE AFFIDAVIT 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
NOT NECESSARILY FOR LACK OF 
REASONABLY RECEIPT 

  

10.00 

1,289.07 

0.00 10.00 

1,253.52 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 

NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 

REASONABLENESS 

$10.00 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. 

  

$35.55 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. An additional amount 
of $332.10 is disallowed as either 
excessive or unnecessary. On 1/17/83 
there is a listing of 25 copies 
totalling 700 pages. Even providing 
for service and file copies, no 
more than 12 copies should be neces- 
sary, totalling a reduction to 
320 pages=$48.00. On 9/27/83, 
30 copies of a memorandum opinion 
were made totalling 2,430 pages. 
Again 12 copies would be sufficient, 
reducing the amount to 972 pages=$145.80. 
On 9/27/83 15 copies of a speech 
totalling 165 pages was made. 
Again, 12 would be sufficient, 
reducing it to 132 pages=$19.80. 
On 9/29/83, 15 copies of an unknown 
document were made totalling 1,215. 
This should be reduced to 12 copies 
which is 972 pages=$145.80. These 

expenses assume the necessity of 
providing copies to all plaintiffs’  



AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH AMOUNT DISALLOWED 

AMOUNT CLAIMED NOT NECESSARILY FOR LACK OF 
DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE ON THE AFFIDAVIT REASONABLY RECEIPT 

» lawyers with every document. As ho 3 g 
. Photocopying at .15 per page stated elsewhere, six lawyers were 

not necessary, SO expenses necessi- 
tated by having six lawyers should 
be disallowed. Court copies plus 
service copies plus copies for 
the second lawyer and a file copy 
for the originating lawyer are 
plenty. Thus in the district court 
where most of the work was done, 
six copies should have been suffi- 
cient for any document. 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 
REASONABLENESS   

    

POSTAGE 

% 1/10/83--Motion and Brief i : Reasonable. 

to Kellogg by Federal Express 

1/12/83--Supplementary affida- ” i Reasonanle. 
vit to James Kellogg, Esq., 
by Federal Express 

: ; Reasonable. 
3/11/83—-Trial material to 

Lani Guinier by UPS  



AMOUNT CLAIMED 
DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE ON THE AFFIDAVIT 
  

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
NOT NECESSARILY FOR LACK OF 
REASONABLY RECEIPT 

  

6/9/83—Findings of Fact & 31.00 
Conclusions of Law, Purolator, 
to James R. Kellogg, Esq. 

12/12/83--Opposition to inter- 
vention sent to William Quigley 

SUMMARY OF LDF LONG DISTANCE TELEPHONE 
RECORDS 

7/14/83-—Court cost 

Legal Printing 

2/16/83——Associated Investigators 
for service of subpoenas 

4/8/83--J.H. Echezabal, trial 
transcript 

31.00 0.00 

1,126.85 

TOTAL AMOUNT 
DISALLOWED 

0.00 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 

NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 

REASONABLENESS 

Reasonable. 

  

$34.00 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. 

$73.08 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. 

Reasonable. 

$53.50 is disalowed both under 
Grendel's Den, Inc. v. Larkin, 
749 F.2d 945 (1st Cir. 1985) and 
as no receipts are produced. 

  

$86.65 should be disallowed as 
no record or itemized receipt of 
who was served, for what purpose 
or when they were served is produced. 

Reasonable.  



AMOUNT CLAIMED 
DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE ON THE AFFIDAVIT 

AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 
THE MONEY WAS 
SPENT, ALTHOUGH 
NOT NECESSARILY 
REASONABLY 

AMOUNT DISALLOWED 
FOR LACK OF 
RECEIPT 

    

5/26/83--Trial Transcript 

/11/82--Compensation to 
. Henderson for analysis 

of data 

3 
G 

3/28/83--Shirley Laska, expert 
witness fee 

3/28/83--Gordon Henderson, expenses 
only for deposition 

658.63 

3,558.28 

1,654.90 

658.63 

3,558.28 

TOTAL AMOUNT 
DISALLOWED 

1,034.90 

REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 
NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF 

REASONABLENESS   

Reasonable. 

Reasonable. 

Reasonable 

$671.92 is disallowed as no receipts 
are produced. $6.00 for ground 
transportation from the airport 
downtown is reasonable. $38.75 
for one meal at Gins Mee Hong Restau- 
rant is unreasonable. $26.00 is 
a reasonable amount for meals for 
one day as we would pay according 
to the Division of Administration. 
A total of $620.00 is allowable 
as expenses in this instance. 
This allows for $524.00 airfare 
as per his receipts (although there 
would have to be proof that it 
was necessary to fly first class), 
$70.00 for one night at a hotel 
and $26.00 for food; allowed only 

if receipts are provided. Thus, 
a total amount of $1,034.90 should 

be disallowed. Mr. Henderson only 
needed to be in town for one day 
for his deposition, if at all.  



AMOUNT OF RECEIPTS 
PRODUCED TO SUP- 
PORT CLAIM TO WHICH 
WE WILL STIPULATE 

TE omy os REASONS FOR DISALLOWAL OR 
AMOUNT CLAIMED So Amo AMOUNT DISALLONED wont, AMOUNT NOTATION OF STIPULATION OF ) NOT NECESSARILY FOR LACK OF SL; D By 

DESCRIPTION OF EXPENSE ON THE AFFIWVIT  REnSOiaLiy ns DISALLOWED REASONABLENESS 

5/31/83--G. Henderson, trial 1,002.19 0.00 1,002.19 1,002.19 

expenses 

  

  

  

1,002.19 is disallowed as no re- 
ceipts are produced.

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