Plaintiff s' Preliminary Response to Defendants' Submission; Motion for Leave to Take Depositions; and Request for Evidentiary Hearing
Public Court Documents
March 15, 1984
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RALPH GINGLES, et a1.,
Plaintiffs,
v.
RUFUS L. EDMISTEN, et al.
Defendants.
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF' NORTH CAROLTNA
RALEIGH DIVISION
No.81-803-Civ-5
PLAINTIFFS I PRELIMINARY RESPONSE
TO DEFENDANTSI SUBMISSION; I{OTION
FOR LEAVE TO TAKE DEPOSITIONS; AND
REQUEST FOR EVIDENTIARY HEARING
I. Prelimina Re nse to Defendants' Submission
Plaintiffs respond to defendants' March 72, 1984, Motion and
Submission pursuant to the Courtrs Order and Judgment of January
27, 1984r ds follows:
A. Defendants have not demonstrated that they have completely
remedied the violati-ons of 52.
Having found defendants in violation of the mandate of 52 of
the voting Rights Act, of 1965r ds amended, 42 u.s.c. 51973, the
Court deferred further action to al1ow defendants an opportunity
to redistrict in compliance with 52 and "to assess the amended
statute's substantial new requirements for affirmatively avoiding
racial vote dilution rather than merely avoiding its intentional-
imposition." Mem. Op. at 70.
Defendants have the burden of demonstrating that their pro-
posed new districts adequately remedy the 52 violati_on found by
the court. This burden is required by the basic principles of
equity adopted by congress in amending 52. As the legislative
history makes clear, the relief should be fashioned so that "it
completely remedies the prior dilution of minority voting strength
and fu11y provides equal opportunities for minority citizens to
participate and to elect candidates of their choice. " senate
Report at 31. Defendants' Motj-on for approval of their substitute
plan must, therefore, be denied unless and until defendants demon-
strate that those plans completely remedy the violation found by
the Court and fu11y provide bl-ack voters in North Carolina an equal
opportunity to participate and to elect candidates of their choice.
Defendants have not demonstrated the absence of discrimi-
natory purpose and result in the proposed districts.
Plaintiffs preliminary examination of defendants' submission
reveals that defendants have failed to meet their obligation at
the remedial stage of this lawsuit. Examples are as follows:
(1) Defendants failed to demonstrate that they avoided dilution
of minority voting strength in districts which do not have effective
black voting majorities but do have recognizable and substantial
concentrations of black voters. These include in particular House
District No. 8, a three member distrj-ct composed of parts of
wilson, Edgecombe and Nash counties, and House Districts 36 and
54-60, which district Mecklenburg County.
(2) Defendants have failed to demonstrate the absence of
discrj-minatory purpose and discriminatory result in their combina-
tion of multi-member and sj-ngle-member districts, particularly in
the division of former House District No. B (wi1son, Edgecombe
and Nash counties) into proposed House Districts Nos. B and 70.
Defendants have further failed to show the absence of discriminatory
purpose and result in the contorted configuration of the Mecklenburg
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county House Districts (Nos. 36 and 54-60). These districts
severely fracture communities of interest and are so irregularly
shaped that voters will not be able to learn in which district
they live in order to use their votes effectively.
(3) Defendants have failed to demonstrate that the plans
they submitted are based on any rational or objective criteria
other than the need to protect white incumbents.
Because of the deficiencies noted above, plaintiffs are
particularly concerned about defendants' failure to completely
remedy the violations of 52 in the redistricting of former House
Districts Nos. 8 and 36. Plaintiffsr preliminary examination
does not reveal substantial problems in proposed House Districts
Nos. 2L and 55-61 (Wake County), 23, 68-69 (Durham County), or
39, 66 and 67 (Forsyth County) , or in proposed Senate Districts
l, 2, 6, 9, 10, 11 and L4 (Northeast Senate Districts), or 22 and
33-35 (Mecklenburq and Cabarrus Counties).
II. Motion for Leave to Take Depositions
rn order to be able adequately to present to the court evi-
dence of the failure of proposed House Districts, particularly
Nos. 8,70,36, and 54-60, to remedy the violations found by the
Court, plaintiffs reguest leave to take the depositions of legisla-
tors and legislative staff members directly involved in developing
those districting proposals. Plaintiffs further request leave to
take depositions in lieu of testimony of witnesses who live outside
the subpoena jurisdiction of the court pursuant to Rul-e 45 (e) (1),
F. R. Civ. P.
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III. Request for Evidentiary Hearing
Pursuant to Rule 43 (e) , F.R.Civ.p., plaintiffs request
that the Court schedule defendants' Motion for an Evidentiary
Hearing, to be heard on oral testimony and deposition, to
provide the court and plaintiffs an opportunity to assess the
adequacy of defendants' proposed remedy. plaintiffs further
request that the Court set a schedule for briefing of this Motion.
IV. The Court Should Order Complete Relief.
In the event that the Court concludes on the current
record that the plans submitted by defendants to not completly
remedy the viorations of 52, plaintiffs request that the court
order defendants to hold elections in former House District No. 8
i-n accordance with Exhibit 93 (H400 N54) and in former House
District No. 36 in accordance with Exhibj-t 94 lH4O0 N75) or Exhibit
9s (H400 N90 ) .
Each of these proposals was submitted to the North Carolina
General Assembry in the House Redistricting committee and on
the floor of the House of Representatives but was rejected.
Plaintiffs submit that each of these plans would completely
remedy the 52 vioJations found by the court and would provide
brack voters in these districts an equal opportunity to partici-
pate in the poritical process and to elect representatives of
their choice.
This lf day of t/\d*rA
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, 7984.
Chambers, Ferguson, Watt, Wa11as
& Adkins, P.A.
Suite 730 East Independence P:.aza
951 South Independence Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28202
704/37s-846r
JACK GREENBERG
LANI GUINIER
99 Hudson Street
16th Floor
New York, New York 10013
2t2/2L9-1900
Attorneys for Plaintiffs
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I certify that I have served the foregoing PLAINTIFFS '
PRELIMINARY RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS' SUBMISSION; MOTION FOR
LEAVE TO TAKE DEPOSITIONS; AND REQUEST FOR EVIDENTIARY HEARING
on all other parties by placing a copy thereof in the post
office or official depository in the care and custody of the
United States Postal Service addressd to:
James Wal1ace, Jr. \ , -Deputy Attorney General for ) D"/ 4P*
North Carolina Department of \Justice \ /;*Raleigh, North Carolina 27602 ) J
Arthur Donaldson
Burke, Donaldson, Holshouser &
Kenerly
309 N. Main Street
Salisbury, North Carolina 28154
Kathleen Heenan McGuan
Jerris Leonard & Associates, pA
900 l-7th Street, N.W., Suite 1020
Washington, D.C. 20006
Robert N. Hunter, Jr.
201 West Market Street
Post Office Box 3245
Greensboro, North Carolina 27402
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